Nudura ICF foundation DIY (avoid common mistakes) YOU CAN DO THIS!!!
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- GUYS. In this video I'll show you some simple steps to avoid problems while building your ICF foundations. I build these with all different guys it seams every year a new crew that have never done it before. This video will definitely help you DIY guys or anyone new to this type of construction. As always thanks for watching and if this helps you please like and throw a comment my way and think about subscribing for more content. 👍👍
Thanks Bondo
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Hey I got a tip , When you cut the common seam use a sharpie and write in large letters the cut dimension of that form, do the same on the second course where you staggered the corner. and then you'll know the length for all the remaining courses, That is something I've used and saves a bit of time and helps repeatability
That’s a great tip. 👍 Thats why I love TH-cam. I learn stuff all the time on here. Thanks for the comments and the tip 😊
Hey Bondo, just had to write a big thank you for your Nudura videos. 70 year old just finished constructing basement/garage using Nudura with my two daughters in young 40's. And with the help of four senior citizen friends (three in our 70's, one late 60's, and a youngster in his 50's) we poured the walls without a hitch. No blow outs and barely any water leaks. Watched other videos as well but I picked up details in your videos that were not covered by other contractors in their videos. Thanks again, Guy
I am so glad my videos are helping people like you. Sorry I missed responding to you.
Your video’s help a Yard! May be more.
These are excellent for helping me plan my project, it’s not my first rodeo so I know how important planning and details are to having a good job.
Glad to help.
your videos are a generous contribution! Thank you Bondo
One of my go to videos very helpful and fun to watch.
Awesome I am glad you like it.
Hi, great video, I know you are keeping it simple, but some people might not be familiar with some building terms. Thank you, keep them coming.
Invest in a rebar bender. Your 90 degree pre bent corner are pretty bad! Bend the corners into the long straight runs as you go. This cuts down on quickie saw cuts and make less concrete hang ups in pouring! Avoid double rebar locations in the webs(side by side). Anytime you have two rebar next to each other it slows concrete flow, your corners and T's show it too much. I understand you may only be pouring 8 feet high, but build like you're 20' in one pour! Sledge Ok! It works with mason grid. I don't use a sledge, I use a 2x4 paddle stick, 3ft or so 2x4, cut a handle in one end and use the 2x4 to beat the block down and you can also use it to reach over a wall and slap the block in alignment when stacking off of a ladder or scaffolding. The video was really good and your way works!
Thanks for the feedback. 👍 I have been considering the rebar bender. I like that 2x4 paddle idea. I'll have to try that next summer. We are pretty much done with any foundations this season. I have a few more flat pours to do then we will be doing some home renovations this winter. It's been a busy summer👍 Thanks again for the good ideas. I learn something new every day. When you stop learning you stop living. 😊
Bondo
Great job Bondo , I like watching your videos you've taught me a lot thank you very much
Awesome video. I just had my basement done with nudura and love it. I am planning to do the rest of the house with it myself.
Nice 👍👍 I’m glad you liked the video bud. Nudura is a great product.
Such nice, straight walls!! Such good foundations. And such a clean worksite!
Thank you. Sometimes my job sight gets pretty messy though. Lol 😆
Bondo thanks for all your great tips I know they will come in handy when I try my project keep putting videos on the great to watch
Down to earth, solid explanation. Many thanks.
Brent Ackerman thanks for the kind words sir. 😊
Keep up the great work I enjoy seeing what you do😊
You got a good guys working with you
looks good bondo
Thanks Russell
Nice work
Thanks Michael
souper!!
Thanks
Thank you for info,Bondo!
You bet 👍👍
Thank you for sharing your knowledge! Much appreciated!
Nice video. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for showing us how it works
This was really informative. Thanks!
Thank you for sharing!
Your welcome. Glad you liked it. 👍
Thanks very much. Very helpful.
Would you have a video showing how to connect a steel beam into an ICF wall. ? For example a 8 inch x 4 inch beam..? Thanks.
Good pointers for beginners. Thank you
Glen awesome glad you liked it. 👍
down to earth instructions, good video
Thanks Jim 👍
I get it was 3 years ago, but seeing you attach the clips, put the rebar in, etc. would be great. I will be looking at more of your ICF videos. Last, have you seen the foundation bags from Fab Form??
Excellent instructions! Thanks Bondo
I’m taking on a very complicated foundation with lots of angles. Any advice? Would help a lot! Your videos help so much well done 👍🏻
I'm starting my project tomorrow
watching up in Canada here and learning a lot from you. Thanks, Someday we may get around to adding a room and your videos are showing us how to get it done.
Thats awesome thanks for the support. I snowmobile in St Zenon Quebeck. Im glad my videos are helpfull to ya. 👍😊
Hey that video was well done. I just started our place yesterday. 34fx62f
2 stories high. It’s presently raining so I’m watching videos .
Again well done and thanks 👊👊👊
Michel Rea your welcome sir. Glad you liked it. Hope it helps you out. Good luck with the project. 👍👍
smashed it bro, thanks for the video. way good man.
You are damn amazing at this.. Have you ever done a full mono pour all the way to the top of a bungalow wall truss plate. Or a two story.
That is coming from a long time pro. We are in 20 years plumber, water filtration experts, well technician, product specialist.. Having that said we pay attention to what we’re doing and other people are doing around us.
Thanks for a detailed video!
Glad it was helpful!
You did good work you've shown me stuff that other videos with ICF building did not show I think you build a really secure ICF wall
this looks night and day better in every way than the gates system I blew my back out using.
Thanks Dan
I am going to build my foundation like this too.. looks great
Like the information.
Thanks Max. I’m glad you liked it buddy. 👍
Thanks so much for these videos. Instead of using those clips on the first bottom row could you just screw on a scrap plywood or 2x? I am doing a small job and don’t wanna buy a whole box of clips.
The wire you refer to at 9:57 can you tell me what is this called and what exactly is its purpose? Well done on a great video. Very straightforward.
Also what is your procedure if you get a burst out during a pour as I imagine that can be quite stressful?
One more thing, do you ever use the tins of expanding foam between the individual blocks?
There appears to be a number of icf manufacturers with 4 foot blocks. Would they be a better option?
Thanks again for such an informative video.
Keep explaining the smallest of details. 👍
Good video Bondo and good info. Few comments from a guy that built his entire house and shop from Nudura ICF from basement all the way to the roof.
1. 6" wall for basement with that much clay soil against it? Are you sure that's enough? That's some pretty long walls with about 8' dirt/clay against it.
2. Water barrier (liquid rubber or similar) between wall and footing goes long way. Concrete capillarity will not pull water up the wall. Wet wall in between foams will never dry.
3. I hope you are cleaning that foam from the wall cavity to avoid voids where wall/footing joint is the most vulnerable.
4. 2" of foam, even better 4" under basement floor is almost must.
Once you enter basement built like that you will never build the same again.
I see you are using hard perforated PVC pipe for drainage and we salute you for that. :) I also used FoxBlock and it's much easier to keep straight due to nobs being oriented differently than Nudura. I switched to FoxBlock completely.
I am Canadian! :) :)
Hi there thanks. This was backfilled with gravel and stone no clay went in there. 6” wall is good if you use the proper rebar per Nudura specs. I think we propably gonna throw polly under the footers this year. I heard that a few timnes on here. 👍I always use good pipe not the black flexible junk. Lol
The new code this year will require 3” of foam under concrete for a house or basement in my area. I never tried the Fox blocks but I have built a few baserments with Logix.
Regards
Bondo👍😊
Thank you for this video. What sort of spray foam do you use? I know probably closed cell, but is it door & window, pestblock, or something else?
Just the regular Great stuff not the window and door kind.
@@bondobuilt386 Thank! I wonder if the Pestblock version would be worth it. Might not deter mice, but could deter some bugs. I appreciate the response very much. I enjoy your videos.
Snow coming in SE PA. Setting up for a Bondo Marathon!
I got 150 something videos on here Jim watch them all buddy. LOL 😂
I use Izodom block's, all have 50mm incriment marks on them, all our builds are sized to suit, we would never have a common joint, very poor. 🤔👎
@@samlaw98 Sounds like your a pro building with no common seams. Put a video together and share your Knowledge. That will get more attention then bashing other peoples work that spend there extra time helping others learn. I call guys like you keyboard warriors.LOL 😂😂😂😂
I’ve got a Nudura basement and love it! Going to do another one later next year but my cement guy retired. Would you ever travel to Philly to do a foundation wall and floor? Thanks for the videos and letting me know.
Peter I usually have more work local then me and my small crew can Handle. Looking like this up coming year will be the same.
Keep the info coming love it.
Yes sir glad you liked it 👍
Great video! Thank you
Thanks 😊
Any thought to trying to make the common seams hit on 8” (for Nudura) centers so sheetrock later is easier? I am contemplating pouring my own basement for a house I’ll be building in the future. Cheers! Great content!
Hi Tyler. Yes they make an excelent basement. The studs will all be lined up on 8” centers except where the common seam is it's will be off. As hanging sheetrock you can just measure from the other side of the common seam.
Thanks for subscribing 👍
@@bondobuilt386 Awesome, to make sure I'm tracking your thought process...say your common seam is 6'4" from the inside corner. Cut the first sheet to fall on the far side of the seam and then continue full 8' sheets following.
This system creates more work on the back end with sheetrock (compared to traditional framing) but I think the front end time, effort and overall end product is so worth it! Am I on the right track with that thought?
Tyler Stein I think you are on the right track. I think it would be easy to Sheetrock over these but the electric would be harder. 👍
Have you built any retaining walls with Nudura ICFs? Thanks for this great video!
Q: what purpose do those grooves serve on the insides of the ICF serve? Consolidation? Drainage? I've seen other brands but without the grooves. Thanks for the video, both helpful and informative.
Hi Bill the groves are little dovetails inside the block and help keep the foam stuck to the wall after it dries. 👍
Must all walls have a common seam? or can you size the house to avoid needing them?
just after you shout "we are missing a piece of wire" at @11:12 there is a good sized chunk of the top of the foam smashed off. what do you do in this instance, just leave it?
will that cause issues when pouring?
We went right over it then just zap a little spray foam there. No proplem at all 👍😊
Thank you!
You bet 😊👍
Thanks!
A helpful tip, if you have a different grade make sure that the hight difference is divisible by 8" or you'll have to have extra support for anything greater than 12" divisible.
Thanks chad. 👍😊
Awesome video. Quick question. Is it better/recommended to pour the floor/slab with the footings all in one go or do the floor after the walls are done? This way the pour can bond with the ICF and help seal on the inside.
We like to pour the floor inside the ICF because it covers the cold joint between the footer and the ICF. It also helps the walls from ever pushing inward.
@@bondobuilt386 Thank you Sir. I appreciate you
what is the reason for the ladder bars and are those turn buckles expensive ? Nice video great info
The ladder wire stiffens and straightens the wall and we rent the bracing. 👍
What's the purpose of the ladder wire? It won't have much if any concrete cover since it's touching the foam block?
It keeps the wall straight and stiffens it too.
Hi Bondo,
Will it be too difficult for a woman to learn n build n is there any place where one can be an apprentice as I want to build my own house once i can find the land.Thanks
Faith I think a woman can build a house if you really wanted to and you set your mind to it there is nothing you could not do. Also with TH-cam there are so many people showing how to do stuff. Im not sure about your area but I had a guy help me a couple days last summer for free just so he could learn how to do Nudura and then he built his own basement and saved a bunch of money. Here where I live there are apprentice programs for masons and carpenters and plumbers and electricians. So you get paid and learn a trade.
Thank you
Your welcome 😊
ever used Helix micro rebar instead of the old fashioned rebar?
I never have tried it.
Great info! Just a comment on the camera work. Please don't pan so quickly...it makes some of us motion sick!
Thanks. Ya some of the guys I have filming don’t have a clue. I try and tell them not to do that. Lol
Hi Ron, I noticed you strap your common seams as you build the walls. Do you you measure each row to be sure the length of the wall is the same from top to bottom?
Tom we do measure the walls. A good trick is to write the cut measurement on the block by the common seam. Merry Christmas buddy. 😊
What should it cost labor to have 1100 ft of new driveway that was a bit of gravel less the cost of the concrete? I’m paying the concrete company just for the concrete on 4 inch driveway and walkways?
I haven't seen the ladder wire done before. I like the idea to help strengthen. Are you making it out of panels?
No it is a poroduct from Nudura and made just for there blocks. It realy helps stiffin and straighten the wall.
@@bondobuilt386 Cool. I've seen a few channels using Nudura, but don't think I've seen them use this. I'll have to remember this when we come to time to build. Thanks!!
@@loweredd No problem buddy. 👍
Bondo, do you have any experience using fiber or Helix stainless steel 1” reinforcement bits mixed in your mud, instead of traditional rebar in ICF walls?
what are the ladder wires for on the top of the second course? I've never seen that before
Thats called form lock. it helps straighten the walls and stiffens then up too.
@@bondobuilt386 ok thanks… I’ll have to think about this a little more…
Hey brother I’m considering building a nedura foundation and maybe even an entire house. I’m a tradesman and have poured a lot of concrete is something that’s easily doable for a novice with a few bigger window bucks. I may actually do my entire house as icf lumber prices are so crazy already
Tom you could definetly pull it off. Just have plenty of help around that day you pour. Alot of People on here have used my videos and done DIY Nudura. 👍😊
Rookie questions ... and I see why you learned to pour the floor with just the first level of foam forms now.
1. I've had full-through rebar let water into a poured concrete basement foundation in the past - in my own home. But I notice your system calls for rebar squares that are full-through at every level. I guess the foam must act as the water barrier? Or, does this system mandate a vapor-barrier membrane outside the foam wall? I think this system would have to be protected from water - in addition to having a weeping tile system, due to the exposed rebar.
2. Why use foam construction for interior supporting walls? Am guessing it's easy as everything else is foam, but so would a cinder-block wall be easy - and probably a bit less expensive. Am guessing that the insulation helps during pouring the floor.
3. Using volcanic ash negates the need for rebar. Rome's Pantheon dome roof has stood for two-millennia because of this. I wonder why this isn't an option you can request from concrete companies?
Edward we have the outside sprayed with closed cell spray foam or use a rubber membrane for water proofing these walls. We do not use the blocks for interior walls. most interior walls will be framed withb wood. Not sure what yopu mean by exposed rebar?? we cast some rebar in the wall that will eventually be cast into the garage walls. so they are not exposed. they just tied the garage in because the garage was poured a couple weeks later.
@@bondobuilt386 Got it. The welded wire mesh's "squares" appear to have metal wire (3? mm) running from concrete surface to surface every 8 inches or so (I called these "rebar", they're not - they're a grid mesh, sorry to confuse) ?
This is pretty great video. I'm interested to know about multi storey construction with icf.
Thanks I’m interested too. LOL I have never been past the basement but I would like to do a full house and make a video. 👍😊
Not to toot someone else's horn, but @UpToKode does full height ICF builds on here.
@@loweredd I’ll have to check it out. 👍
So you use ladder wire n rebar on each course? N are you staggering horizontal rebar inside n outside in block
Gale Cooney latter wire in second course and top course. Rebar in every course horizontal and vertical every 18”. This will vary with each project and should look at Nudura web sight or use an engineer to design it. A lot of variables for each project.
Nudura or Foxblocks ? Have you used both ?
buddy does foundations, was explaining to me about ICF.... this seems like a no brainer, contractors are super scared to start using this around here..lol.
It is a no brainer. I used to build basements from concrete blocks and this is much better system. 👍👍
@@bondobuilt386 for sure...just plug and play
@@bikeninja956 yup 👍👍
I have done Fox block and Reward wall all ICF’s but I just started a wall yesterday with 18 different steps and bad footer work. This block seams the least labor in the block tying. Only horizontal no vertical ties. Also the rep. Came today and said we don’t have Tees or the metal like you used in the second row. I was amazed it will stay together. No vertical lift on the blocks or corners?
You should not get any vertical lift at all becsause the blocks clip together. That form lock latter wire is nice in the 2nd and top course because it helps straighten the walls. We fabricate the T’s on sight with the T -straps and I have nevewr had one come apart they are rock solid if done proper.
Bondo Built thank you sir I’m going to the site now to wait for pump truck! Thanks you for your insight. It’s been more helpful than the Rep. He’s says you don’t need the ladder and some of the blocking I’ve done. Peace of mind goes a long way. Especially 14 foot tall on the side of a mountain. Anyhow have a great day and stay safe.
@@jamusmorrison3073 Thanks. I hope your pour goes well. I agree 100% about the piece of mind factor. Sounds like you set yourself up for success. 👍. Let me know how it goes. Im working on another video from one we just finished pouring 👍👍
Bondo Built all went well. What are your T section metal straps called? This block seams more durable than the others so less bracing. But I’m sure I go over kill. But I don’t want to pick it up off the ground! Keep putting out videos I prove they work!
jamus morrison that’s great to hear. Glad to help. 👍👍 I think they are called t straps or I often refer to them as knives. They got the point you push right through the block. Works great. Yes these blocks are stronger. 💪💪
if the average diy wants to build an addition with basement foundation using icf can the walls be plumbed using just dimensional lumber like you would a wall constructed out of wood? i really dont want to have to buy the steel levelling post you have in the video for a small one time 18x28 build im planning.
You can rent the bracing system from the place you buy the blocks from. It's usually not crazy expensive and it will be much faster and safer because its a scaffolding as well. Also your walls will be nice and straight. check out my Nudura playlist alot of good info on here and subscribe if you haven't. 😊
Hi Bondo,
Can I come n help you for free in the summer to learn how to do it right as I am interested in building my house. I am kind of handy.
Thank you
I would consider that. 👍
I have check all over the web, and never can find a site that give me price and picture of Nudura. Can you tell me where to look so I can figure out what I need and the cost of my project ?
Do you build icf homes in oklahoma?looks like you do a great job.
Thanks. No I can barely keep up with my work around home in upstate New York.
Ron, How many courses do you install the ladder wire ? every other ? every ? , thanks Buddy
Hey bud. I put it on top of the second course and on the top course for a 9' wall. It helps to straighten and stiffen the wall quite a bit. 👍😊
@@bondobuilt386 ok thanks !
@@italRotty you bet any time. 👍😊
How do you decide on where to place the first column of blocks on the footer. Inside outside or middle.
Mark a 6” ICF block is 11-1/2” wide so I make my footer 20” wide and the block is centered on the footer. This leaves 3-3/4” on each side of the block. This gives you some wiggle room to get the building squared up. 👍
Fun
You know we have fun. 👍👍
Real pros
can you use zip ties to hold down the rebar?
You sure can. 👍👊
How do you brace your walls on the inside if the floor is poured already? You don't shoot anchors into do you?
We use short tap con fasteners. a dab of mordar will fill the little 1/8”. Holes. 2 fasteners per foot plate and they never have moved. 👍😊
Was this video before you started pouring the floor with the first layer before going up further?
Maybe I have you confused with another ICF guy.
@@onjofilms No sometimes it does not work out to get concrete on time so we go up with walls.
One thing I noticed for others, is that the TWall connection with T braces are done incorrectly. The rebar goes in the web itself, not in the rebar snaps on top. This allow when the concrete is poured to prevent the force from pulling the rebar out of the thin connectors on top. This can be seen at 3:46 in the video. Good luck and thanks for the share.
Thanks I never had a problem with these corners pulling apart and I have done a lot of them. I will check into this on the next one. 👍
@@bondobuilt386 Could be a theoritical issue then and real life trumps that every time. Good luck and keep sharing.
@@DanielWier Thanks for the comments and watching my stuff 👍👊
What spray foam did you use? Having a hard time finding what is used to glue them together
Just the Great stuff from box store. Regular not the window and door kind.
@@bondobuilt386 thank you fir the reply
@@probmxjona no problem.
I’m taking on my first ICF project. I’m using Form a drain as my footer foundation. How long are the vertical rebar from the footer? Is the rebar tied to the horizontal rebar or is sitting on the ground? Thanks
We tie up the horizontal rebar off spreader boards and just stab in the vertical rebar at 18” in the middle of the footer when we place concrete. Just wet set them in before concrete gets hard.
How far are your verts a part? looks like 24"
Are the braces on this job the same as you always use? How do you like them ?
Yes Clyde the same brace system from Nudura. I like them alot. 👍
@@bondobuilt386 have you tried zonts and zuckles? They look superior to anything else. Thoughts?
@@Ivebeenaroundyouknow I have not tried them. The Nudura bracing really works well though.
I just got a quote for $21,000 to do 198” of 9ft slab basement wall how would cost compare for doing ICF instead??
Do you epoxy the rebar dowels into the footers ?
I wet set them before the footer is hard. 👍
Why didnt you pour the floor first on this job like your other video? I thought it was better/easier to pour the floor before walls?
We couldnt get concrete for like a week so we had to keep moving. 👍
I was told that corner bars (j- bars) are required to be at least 2 feet each way. Is it feasible to get bar lower in the form?
Hi. You could make the J bars longer if that is required in your area. They would go right in fine. 👍
Why did you not pour the floor after the first course?
I could not get concrete in time.
About how much concrete does the 18” x 8ft. 6 inch core block hold ?
.24 yards Darren.
I am in Surrey.
Where is Surrey?
2 questions
1: how did you know your common seems are gonna be in those places? it doesn't look like they go straight-up-and-down how close to the seems have to be together in order for you to brace them like that?
2: do you put ladder wire in only the 2nd level or each level?
Sorry saw the answer to the 2nd question in the comments. So I guess the 1st question is all I have.
The common seams do go straight up buddy. Thery should be near the center of a wall not near a corner if you can avoid it. The latter wire goes in the second course and the top couse and it helps straighten the walls. 👍😊
Have you poured a slab floor at grade inside an OCD frost wall?
th-cam.com/video/0ibQ2mueXIo/w-d-xo.html yes I have 👍
@@bondobuilt386 thanks for quick response how long ideally should the walls cure before putting the sub slab materiel in?
@@georgemckenzie2525 your welcome. It depends on the weather . You should wait at least a week the material inside needs to be tamped but you want to fill in the outside at the same time. so the wall has equal pressure.