In Conversation With George Monbiot
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- Join us for a conversation with renowned journalist and commentator George Monbiot, who will explore systems transformation with a particular emphasis on the future of food. Through his deep knowledge of the world beneath our feet, he reveals what it takes - from invisible life forms to industry politics and cutting-edge technologies - to turn a system upside down.
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I was not a George Monbiot fan. I am now.
Don’t focus on George, focus on his arguments.
How could you not like George?
Why not, he's not saying anything here he hasn't been saying for at least a decade
Why not? The guy’s a legend.
@John J Kelly what an astonishingly unnecessary thing to say. I don't agree.... Obviously.
I love this man♥️
George Monbiot is a gift to humanity - thanks George. In New Zealand we are so invested in farming and food production for local and exports consumption that it will if left unchecked will destroy our ambitions to counter climate change. Let's get the current food producers involved to allow them to transition to a new and better life for our global community.
I break down his contrived fallacious land use arguments in my review. It's even more ironic that Monbiot pretends to be interested in soil health and then wants to eliminate the tool that's most useful for restoring soil health quickly, well managed livestock. A hammer can build a house or bash someone in the head...livestock aren't any different. Well managed livestock can repair landscape, while poorly managed livestock can due the opposite. Only in Monbiot's polarized world is everything so black or white.
@@REGENETARIANISM He's not polarized at all. He implicitly understands that everything is nuanced. Of course if he's going to talk for only 20 mins on an issue he has to be very to the point so he's settling on the argument that on a planetary level livestock is not sustainable, and he's absolutely right. At a community level livestock is good and helps to rejuvenate agricultural land, sequestering carbon in the process and adding to the soils microbial diversity. Despite this, we can't have livestock fed on pasture feed 8 billion people, it just doesn't work. Livestock will always serve communities and as you mentioned used in the right way are an invaluable resource, but to feed most of the people on earth i think there are many plants which produce much more protein and carbs per square metre of land, use less resources, less water and contribute less to global greenhouse emissions, plus are cheaper. If we can get food made by microbes under precise fermentation methods as George eludes to, we have a shot at securing food for everyone despite the effects of a warming planet. So yes you have a point, but from a planetary perspective, George has a much more informed theory than you do.
The way you can spot one of these frauds is they never seem to address China, by far the biggest polluter.
He’s an ignorant thicko, who thinks he’s intelligent, but supports Genetic ‘Engineering’(GE/GMO’s), Nuke Power, Vivisection etc
@@REGENETARIANISM ‘’Livestock’’ apart from being extremely cruel, also uses far too much land, that would otherwise be wild Ecosystem’s/Forests. Animal Agriculture is the cause of Global Warming, not fossil fuels!
Listening to George Monbiot gave me hope for humanity ! What a brilliant mind ! People like him will save the world > going to buy his book and music he mentioned . FANTASTIC guy !
He's a self serving snake. How do I know; I've met him. He's a typical champagne socialist.
Thank you, Mr. Monbiot.. I learn a lot.. I wish to read Regenesis..
George is always worth listening too.He's the opposite to popukarist politics so listen to him, well researched and well thought out.
He’s not even a scientist and brewing meat normal ppl want is not happening.
George Monbiot, the super rock star of sustainability, hope, understanding how everything works and communication with the listening public.
It’s so amazing to me that all this was nascent in Frances Moore Lappe’s groundbreaking book “Diet for A Small Planet” in 1971. It was a revelation in my youth to begin to understand global agricultural land use. Animal production is a disaster and now, 50+ years later, here we are. Tragic. Monbiot is brilliant and dedicated. I wish the big players cared.
Very interesting, thank you. I hope it goes viral ! I've shared it anyway.
The title itself jeopardizes that hope. If I didn’t know George, I wouldn’t even have clicked on the video. There would have been no reason to.
Best thing ive watched on youtube
Great job as alway's. Keep the truth alive for humanity and the planet and to wake up the masses of the world. ❤ ❤ ❤ 💚 💚 💚
"History abundantly shows that people's views of the universe are bound up with their views of themselves and of their society. The debate in cosmology has implications far beyond the realm of science, for it is a question of how truth is known. How these questions are answered will shape not only the history of science, but the history of humanity." (Eric Lerner, 1992)
spaceandmotion
I think it's already too late, were in a position of damage limitation, but this guy is the messenger, don't shoot him, literally or metaphorically.
More people should go into growing their own food, with more rewilding. The bigger farms should be broken into smaller farms surrounded by wild areas. Just a few big farms etc should be present in the world which can supply the shortfall of food anywhere in the world.
Too oversimplified. Lot's of small farms don't have the eficiency, knowledge and capability to use optimal amount of fertilizers and pesticides. So not necessarily we need small farms, but some type of upgrade and backup in place
Not really a good answer. Small-scale farming is even less sustainable!
@@Mike_lis both fertilizers and pesticides should be avoided, the first one because of climate change and the second one for biodiversity
Where would the people come from to farm them?
@@reneeanderson878 an awfully good question
I would like to thank the traditional and organic farmers of the USA for supplying inexpensive and tasty complete proteins. What many folks forget is not everyone can afford to purchase his food. It seems that the poor are always left out in these ivory tower ideas. If one lives in an apartment will his recharging equipment be there in the morning.
I do appreciate you alternative information.
Sailesh Rao is literally a systems analyst talking about the exact same relationship between humans and nature!
Sitting with him, listening, nodding........the chance mamma quits her fried chicken ? Near zero I'd guess. Monbiot is a great mind and writer.
2:03 systems theory vulnerabilities for resilience (incl. food supply): redundancy, modularity, backups, circuit breakers.
Follow the money. He does
The masses must understand that the crops that naturally grow in an area are better for the masses that live their. The crops grown according to natural seasonal requirements are more healthy than crops grown artificially out of season. Living in the natural ecosystem laws are better for humanity, it decreases illness and disease. Food from other countries is not as desirable, healthwise, moreover the transportation of food also result's in fossil fuel increase and destruction of the ecosystem.
the beauty of a bioregional diet
💯Vegan for the animals
This is interesting, but why not put more into producing food for eating and not only cutting back on biofuels but also alcohol production?
Plus if there are only 4 corporations, what does that say about the competition promoted by Capitalism?
@@Steve13C That it's a myth. Nanny state for big businesses, cut throat competition for everyone else.
For those that STILL think human activities aren't destroying our ecosystem (yes there are still many people out there that do!)... Please spend a few minutes listening to this man who has condensed 1000's of hours of learned, peer reviewed, scientific knowledge and presented it in 30 minute for you
Perhaps a brief video doesn't do it justice, but didn't seem to be the sharpest audience.
George Lysenko Monbiots ideas were recently rejected on the Island nation of Sri Lanka.
Global population has doubled in the last twenty five years, and I’m afraid not many of them are going to want to consume pancakes and meat substitutes plus some unspecified food developments of this bacteria powder. Good try though George, got to respect his passion and intellect.
Like he said, people get used to cultural changes such as new foods. Look at how meat substitute vegan products have grown in market share.
This video needs a better title because americans and some english people wont know who he is, needs a click baity title i think. "FACTS THE WORLD PLAYERS DONT WANT YOU TOO SEE" lol
perching on those stools: SO uncomfortable. Please get better, normal height chairs for your guests. Support back, legs, etc.
"18 percent of oil" but "oil" isn't nutritive sustenance for humans.
He's talking about fat, as you well know, and you do need fat in your diet.
but precision fermentation uses genetically modified microbes..... surely there is an environmental risk to microbe ecosystems worldwide. eating less meat and farming organically and regeratively can also solve the issues you are concerned with.
I think this would be unlikely because the microbes would only be able to survive in a very specific environment with human inputs and wouldn't be hardy enough to survive outside of cultivation
Only like and comment on this video if you care about food.
Ten minutes in and not a single mention of overpopulation. I'm done with this.
we need more births not less, population collapse is imminent not overpopulation
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Population and Consumption...the two main problems none wants to talk about. Earth can support max 4Bn people with current consumption rate. Soon will reach 10Bn. We are deemed.
@@noman8253
Sorry but populations are collapsing, personally I want more people on Earth not less, more brains means more innovation. You people have a scarcity mindset, you are constantly scared. Honest question if you are such misanthropes why don't you offer to reduce the herd by your own efforts.
Ah, yes, the old chestnut of overpopulation. An old excuse used by rich white societies to blame poor black societies for the neoliberal, colonial, dominance and suppression of those poor societies which means they don’t get access to the technologies that would equalise the disparities and limit the populations naturally. Ask yourself this question, which is more damaging, 7 billion humans or the 70billion livestock animals a small fraction of those 7 billion consume?
@@noman8253 He is talking about both: Our worldwide consumption patterns and the associated production are not possible with the global population being as big as it is.
So we have to radically change one of these two aspects.
We can either develop better farming methods that produce tastier and healthier food with much smaller environmental impacts (such as precision fermentation) or we can decide that billions of people have to die (by starvation or by war or whatever).
I think the choice is pretty clear.
To assume that George, after reading 5,000 scientific papers on the food system, hasn't come in touch with these topics and considered them thoroughly... is just grotesque.
but every so often they get busted and lead away in handcuffs (delivered dry with perfection hilarious, rubbish audience)
It was a sparse audience as you can see, people are still distancing on account of the new covid variant plus monkeypox
At 4:40 he's basically making something up or repeating misinformation.
Well if you say so. I take it you've read more than 5,000 scientific papers on the food system and then published a book about your findings? Where can I order it?
@@tehtsb I've you can live off of grass, ccorn and husks, more power to you. I would rather have a cow eat it and convert it to protein and fat.
Guy is a lunatic.
dangerous misanthrope
Greed leaves itself no option but to eventually consume itself..
The answer to all of these human-created 'problems' is understanding the one thing that we neglect, which gets us into this mess in the first place, and which is also the one thing that virtually no one has any time for, and that is truth, and how it may be understood..
"History abundantly shows that people's views of the universe are bound up with their views of themselves and of their society. The debate in cosmology has implications far beyond the realm of science, for it is a question of how truth is known. How these questions are answered will shape not only the history of science, but the history of humanity." (Eric Lerner, 1992)
spaceandmotion
In your opinion, what is the best way to cultivate an appreciation and an understanding of the truth? There is also an interesting subtext in your comment - it seems that you’re implying we should also cultivate an appreciation of the universe and of interrelatedness. Thanks for sharing that, by the way.
I wouldn't trust Monbiot as far as I can throw hiim.
Why?
@@blahdelablah *_Why?_* Mince mince.
@@jimmycricket7385 What do you mean by "mince mince"?
@@blahdelablah He's a bohemian leftist who needs a glass of whiskey and revolver.