@@LeGabrielMan that's the most nonsense I've ever heard. That basically means there's no such thing as d tier because if your good with the hero..he's viable
When talking about testing grounds in the Y8 trailer, in the background they first showed PK and Medjay, both of which had changes in the last testing ground. Then Highlander, also testing ground, fighting Lawbringer. There's still hope
i stopped playing For Honor few years ago when Lawbringer (my one and only main) got „reworked” making him even worse than he was before. Today i randomly thought about how fun was this game, and wanted to check tier list if he’s playable again. This is the first comment i see 😂
@@gudgejm he got nerfed into the ground really hard from where he was previously… 20dmg heavy openers with no soft feints - probably the weakest raw heavy in the game. Nolonger impale on heavy parry and because of the low damage heavies it‘s only worth using for ledges. Nolonger far back throw…
I am a definition of a boomer for this game, played a lot on release, now i randomly remembered it, and it's just abstract seeing lawbringer this low, he was such a beast back then
Lawbringer has no chain lights. No stam drain. No neutral hyper armor. No dodge attack. His dodge bash has no i frames. He has no impale on heavy parry anymore (he cant have that cent has it, warmonger has it, afeera has but he, with no unreactable neutral pressure besides the dodge forward bash, cant have it). They did him dirty with the rework
Whenever duel players talk about warlord it always reminds me of that emperors new grove meme “by All accounts it doesn’t make any sense” and he just goes into a tier
Finally a tierlist made by a goat. Its very funny to see people who claim to be comp and give you the most dog opinions possible. Someone once told me pirate tier 4 was the best tier 4 in the game and said they're comp. Also told me 500ms are actually 400ms because they're timed based on indicator not overall speed
Tbf pirate t4 is memed as a T5 as how good it is, is around the realm of the best T4 imo. Also indeed indicagor speed is 400 ms total, first 100 ms are hidden, a true 400 ms attacks has a 300 ms indicator.
@@jorgemoya1341 pirate T4 is good it is outclassed by flask and fear itself. Never once have I heard anyone call it a T5. Most people do not call moves by how long their indicators are on screen. The devs do NOT call attacks by how long their indicators are it is how long the move is.
@@Professor_POVFH GPS does a set amount unlike flask and can be chained into (not that you would 90% of the time lol). if ur on the edge it does practically nothing and if u get revenge it also negates the afterburn. Fear itself is definitely the better overall feat from the fact u can’t counter it other than running or killing the user but GPS can also ledge multiple people some objs are aids for final fights with that. and anyone that has stalwart or phalanx or any protection feat that flask linger is also doing nothing meanwhile pirate does 40 guaranteed and ur knocked so u can’t use any feats to stop the follow up. fury flask which is obviously better as two feats compared to one beats GP easily tho
I'll be putting any changes to this tier list here: 1. Conqueror - Would move above above kyoshin since he has an unreactable chained bash and dodge bashes that I completely forgot about (chill I'm lvl 18 conq) 2. Varangian guard - Putting her right below warlord. Super strong defense with constant pressure in chain. Also has an unreactable 50/50 option after UB lands 3. Kyoshin - not a change, but something I forgot to mention since people ask why he’s so high. His dodge forward kick is incredibly safe (recovery to block and counter GB is insane)
Bro i thought he was going to do a disclaimer "this is just my personal opinion" and then proceeded to say "if you have another opinion then me you are wrong 😂😂😂
The fact that I’m a orochi main and can’t beat my friend who is a berserker main is criminal. I get on duels and absolutely dominate until it’s a berserker because when it’s berserker my lil rat brain can’t react to that stupid interruptible jump.
Understandable tier list; the only thing I can argue about is Kensei. I don't know, man, if you can react to Afeera, I think you can react to everything in his kit (except the pommel strike, which can be interrupted by a light). His punish on guard break is insane, especially when the opponent is out of stamina, but his unblockable is pretty much reactable. It seems fair to place him in the B tier, ranking below Berserker and Raider but surpassing Nobushi. What do you think?
I find Kensei’s mix to be semi difficult to react to just because he can soft feint his UB to lights and heavies so sometimes that trips me up. He also has good hyper armor and rlly good damage numbers with 34 dmg on wallsplat. You could definitely make an argue for him being high B tier but a good Kensei is dangerous
It’s amazing how much the these tier lists change as you move up the skill tree. Im a newer player, and hitokiri, shaolin etc where never problems at low level gameplay - while nobushi was a pain. Now, around average skill level it’s the total opposite. Certain mechanics just don’t even exist at low ranks. I thought kyoshin was the best character when I first played lmao - “competitive” is a key word is these lists
Thank you bro. I always appreciate a good tierlist. Once medjay and pk get their update and maybe HL rw drops could you add a comment to this video about if anything changes to keep us up to date
How is it good? Its literal garbage lmfao. Nobu above those character is just blatant bs. Pirate being at B is also pretty inaccurate, zerker at B is also inaccurate, kensei that high is also copium, shaman not being better than jorm and cent is also wrong lol
A few spots I disagree with. Nobu should be an easy D tier, Medjay should go infront of Highlander, Kensei should go to mid-B, Warmonger should take Kensei's original spot, and Tiandi should be infront of Warden and Shaolin. Other than that I agree with everything on this list. Great job.
@The_Holy_Dragon she is not a shit character, she still has a good kit. Hidden stance, kick, undodgable heavies. She is a good b tier hero. The only characters that deserve d tier is peacekeeper and nuxia
I have no idea how Nobushi is not in D, besides her ludicrously high damage she really has nothing, as long as you're not on last gen the kick is her only offense and its like as slow as old Jorm neutral bash and Hidden Stance feels so inconsistent to cancel into for me
I threw her B cuz IMO she has some good tools on defense (hella s on dodge light, dodge recoveries, hidden stance) and also can deal a lot of damage. She also has some good range too. I will say that yes she’s very reactable but if your opponent is actually attacking and not staring she can be really solid
Probably a hot take, but I think Shaolin was perfectly fine without a rework, except for a couple minor things he was not that bad. I think the rework just made him more boring and too good
Only real changes I would do is knock Kensei down from bottom A to mid/high B and bring Medjay from low B to low A. I personally don't have much issue reacting to the vast majority of Kensei's offense on top of the fact he's so dam stam hungry to get into his "ok" at best mix ups. If they buffed his stam and sped some things up I could see Kensei being crazy strong. Medjay I think is all around solid character and really isn't lack in any real aspect for duels outside of maybe some defensive tools.
The problem with Medjay is that he doesn’t really have anything if you can react to UB, and his bash does only 9 damage and when it’s chained it’s reactable af
At the beginning, just really pick who you think is fun. Most people you will encounter as a new player will struggle with different characters than really good people. Though picking a higher tier character will give you an edge later on if you learn em. Thats if they arent changed balance wise
Play everything. The better you know every character, the better you can make good reads (predicting attacks or reactions to attacks and countering them as or before they come out).
@@stinks3137 learning to play one character well is better advice than trying to learn how to play everyone at the same time. Learning different heroes movesets will just come to you as you play
I started for honor late 2022. I recommended first playing which ever character you think is the coolest. After you get some time, start playing the characters you struggle fighting against the most. To this day the people I hate fighting are usually characters I’ve barely played.
I know lawbringer is bad but i just don't see how LB is the worst duelist in the game, i think LB is defenitly better than nobu and glad. And i think he might be better than some other chars but those are argueable
The tier list is not bad at all. I always thought Warden was S and that people complain just to complain about him. But Nobu in B instead of D is insane lmao. If your opponent has any reactions at all, you're done for. She has 0 offense/real mix. I respect the opinion tho; it's just an insane placement to me.
Yeah I get it man, the thing about my tier lists tho is I factor in things such as timing ability, dmg numbers, defensive capabilities. But yeah if your opponent just stares at you the whole fight ur not gonna win
Like a lot of characters in this game, unfortunately, he's just a noob stomper that becomes meh once you get decent. Tho he is prolly a low A / high B on the tier list, just cause of his recoveries and dodge attack being hard to punish
At last someone recognizes how truly awful Shugoki is. Everyone else always says "yeah, shugo is annoying but..." NO BUTTS 🍑, Shugo is the most brain dead hero IN THE GAME, and if the Shugo is played by someone with half a brain. You. Will. Lose. 🧂 🧂 🧂
@flashbacka1122 yeah but its an unhealthy way to balance and rate characters I just with there was a " realistic " one thays not just shitting on casuals cyz they live in there mums basement
Instant unreactable variable bash with warden. Opens up a lot more options. For cent, you either have to use his kick, light or heavy to get into his unreactable variable bash in his punch. Two of those are reactable. So for cent his safest option is to do unreactable kick to get into his unreactable punch. I’m sure you can see where I’m going with this.. That’s why the bash changes helped cent a shit ton because technically every single one of cent openers were reactable with his kick before being at 500ms. Someone like Realyx could react to that nearly everytime if he was trying his nuts off.
He has pretty solid defense since he can counter variable timed bashes with his back stance and he has a dodge light you can delay super hard. But his insane offense makes him suuuper good. Constant pressure and he’s basically unpunishable
Technically berserker’s entire kit is reactable too. But it’s just my opinion, I’ve done well into top duelists with nobushi you just have to play her really well
Dude what are you talking about your acting like centurion kick and heavy are totally unreachable I could see dat shi a mile away with xbox connection. But idk if you said this or not but shinobi kick is 1 frame that’s unreachable you literally have to guess if he gonna kick you or not to go along with his 50/50 unblockable shi actually busted. He’s the def of unreachable 12:00
Bro warden is so bad in 1v1 all you have to do is turtle and light parry him and the second he dodges gb him idk how he’s a s tier I get he has stam pause and good stam recovery but bro😭
Turtling is probably the worst option against warden 😂 He has variable timed bashes that stam pause and Stam drain, and you can’t light parry him if he only does bashes. Overall beast of a hero
everyone that has no idea about the game... everyone who has knowledge and are top level put Oce at the highest of picks because hes simply OP @@liamoxd9416
@@Realyxqjc2 his unblockable spends tons of stam, so if you check that is easy to read, blue/orange mix up is only available after light opener, heavy openers of any kind are a risk with no rewars, cc in higj levele 1v1 are a free light parry every time, side opener heavies againts him beat his dodge attacks, his fb counter and an attempt to light parry B is literally the max you can get him (14th worldwide BP for time played)
@@atynniehawke9341 Respectfully, time played does not correlate with skill. And I don't know your skill level, but I've been playing with the best duelists in the game for quite some time and have consulted with top players. BP is the only hero in the game that can punished bashes with a heavy. His flip is insane since it also has recovery. I respect your opinion, but some of the points you made apply to almost all other heroes. And saying a cc is a free light parry every time is just incorrect unless you spam it the entire fight
@@Realyxqjc2 to flip a bash means you must read it (from neutral, not fb stance) you get 24 damage for a flip that refills all opponents stamina, leaves you back to neutral with a cost of 30 stam, easily not that impressive. Also saying that his only peculiar aspect of countering bashes/unblockable while ignoring the rest of his clunky kit is up biased, he has a good defense but a quite mediocre offense, so B is what would fit more such aspects
No way dude, storm rush and foward dodge light are meant to punish enemies trying to dodge the kick, if you stand still you eat the kick. But saying that to one of the safest heroes is mad, probably facing bad oros
@@Realyxqjc2 Bro, his offense is good but his defence is suck,he has only 2 options on unlockable attack while everyone has 3 and you have to be parry god and read game like a god to win because of this
@@Realyxqjc2 fair enough, do you have a separate tier list for antigank heroes? If not it would be interesting to see your views on which heroes are best
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0:43 Warden
1:38 Conqueror
2:16 Peacekeeper
3:13 Lawbringer
3:45 Berserker
4:39 Raider
5:37 Valkyrie
6:27 Warlord
7:27 Shugoki
8:32 Kensei
9:30 Orochi
10:04 Nobushi
11:34 Centurion
12:23 Gladiator
13:22 Highlander
14:28 Shaman
15:23 Shinobi
16:13 Aramusha
16:54 Tiandi
17:33 Jiang Jun
18:44 Nuxia
19:36 Shaolin
20:17 Black Prior
21:25 Jormungandr
22:13 Hitokiri
23:18 Zhanhu
24:13 Warmonger
25:28 Gryphon
26:28 Kyoshin
27:24 Pirate
28:12 Medjay
28:56 Afeera
30:21 Ocelotl
31:35 Varangian Guard
32:28 Final Thoughts
As a lawbringer main, this hurts to see how truly bad he is😔
as a lawbringer main, he's viable aslong as you aren't bad.
@@LeGabrielMan that's the most nonsense I've ever heard. That basically means there's no such thing as d tier because if your good with the hero..he's viable
When talking about testing grounds in the Y8 trailer, in the background they first showed PK and Medjay, both of which had changes in the last testing ground. Then Highlander, also testing ground, fighting Lawbringer. There's still hope
i stopped playing For Honor few years ago when Lawbringer (my one and only main) got „reworked” making him even worse than he was before. Today i randomly thought about how fun was this game, and wanted to check tier list if he’s playable again. This is the first comment i see 😂
@@gudgejm he got nerfed into the ground really hard from where he was previously…
20dmg heavy openers with no soft feints - probably the weakest raw heavy in the game.
Nolonger impale on heavy parry and because of the low damage heavies it‘s only worth using for ledges.
Nolonger far back throw…
I am a definition of a boomer for this game, played a lot on release, now i randomly remembered it, and it's just abstract seeing lawbringer this low, he was such a beast back then
He was never a top 1v1 hero, he was okay in 4v4 but still not top 5
I mained orochi before he had a kick, his side lights were slow and his storm rush was always the same direction 😂 seeing him so high is crazy
Lawbringer has no chain lights. No stam drain. No neutral hyper armor. No dodge attack. His dodge bash has no i frames. He has no impale on heavy parry anymore (he cant have that cent has it, warmonger has it, afeera has but he, with no unreactable neutral pressure besides the dodge forward bash, cant have it). They did him dirty with the rework
fr he is so d tier now
Whenever duel players talk about warlord it always reminds me of that emperors new grove meme “by All accounts it doesn’t make any sense” and he just goes into a tier
Finally a tierlist made by a goat. Its very funny to see people who claim to be comp and give you the most dog opinions possible. Someone once told me pirate tier 4 was the best tier 4 in the game and said they're comp. Also told me 500ms are actually 400ms because they're timed based on indicator not overall speed
Tbf pirate t4 is memed as a T5 as how good it is, is around the realm of the best T4 imo.
Also indeed indicagor speed is 400 ms total, first 100 ms are hidden, a true 400 ms attacks has a 300 ms indicator.
@@jorgemoya1341 pirate T4 is good it is outclassed by flask and fear itself. Never once have I heard anyone call it a T5.
Most people do not call moves by how long their indicators are on screen. The devs do NOT call attacks by how long their indicators are it is how long the move is.
@@Professor_POVFH GPS does a set amount unlike flask and can be chained into (not that you would 90% of the time lol). if ur on the edge it does practically nothing and if u get revenge it also negates the afterburn. Fear itself is definitely the better overall feat from the fact u can’t counter it other than running or killing the user but GPS can also ledge multiple people some objs are aids for final fights with that. and anyone that has stalwart or phalanx or any protection feat that flask linger is also doing nothing meanwhile pirate does 40 guaranteed and ur knocked so u can’t use any feats to stop the follow up. fury flask which is obviously better as two feats compared to one beats GP easily tho
I'll be putting any changes to this tier list here:
1. Conqueror - Would move above above kyoshin since he has an unreactable chained bash and dodge bashes that I completely forgot about (chill I'm lvl 18 conq)
2. Varangian guard - Putting her right below warlord. Super strong defense with constant pressure in chain. Also has an unreactable 50/50 option after UB lands
3. Kyoshin - not a change, but something I forgot to mention since people ask why he’s so high. His dodge forward kick is incredibly safe (recovery to block and counter GB is insane)
4. Peacekeeper now s tier
Bro i thought he was going to do a disclaimer "this is just my personal opinion" and then proceeded to say "if you have another opinion then me you are wrong 😂😂😂
Ayy was not expecting this im a very happy monke now i can use this to compare to my teir list really good teir list brotha
The fact that I’m a orochi main and can’t beat my friend who is a berserker main is criminal. I get on duels and absolutely dominate until it’s a berserker because when it’s berserker my lil rat brain can’t react to that stupid interruptible jump.
Understandable tier list; the only thing I can argue about is Kensei. I don't know, man, if you can react to Afeera, I think you can react to everything in his kit (except the pommel strike, which can be interrupted by a light). His punish on guard break is insane, especially when the opponent is out of stamina, but his unblockable is pretty much reactable. It seems fair to place him in the B tier, ranking below Berserker and Raider but surpassing Nobushi. What do you think?
I find Kensei’s mix to be semi difficult to react to just because he can soft feint his UB to lights and heavies so sometimes that trips me up. He also has good hyper armor and rlly good damage numbers with 34 dmg on wallsplat. You could definitely make an argue for him being high B tier but a good Kensei is dangerous
It’s amazing how much the these tier lists change as you move up the skill tree. Im a newer player, and hitokiri, shaolin etc where never problems at low level gameplay - while nobushi was a pain. Now, around average skill level it’s the total opposite. Certain mechanics just don’t even exist at low ranks. I thought kyoshin was the best character when I first played lmao - “competitive” is a key word is these lists
Definitely bro, my two roommates are super casual and they find heroes like gladiator and nobushi impossible to fight 😂
What is average rank for you ?
im new too and nobushi is so annoying
Thank you bro. I always appreciate a good tierlist. Once medjay and pk get their update and maybe HL rw drops could you add a comment to this video about if anything changes to keep us up to date
How is it good? Its literal garbage lmfao. Nobu above those character is just blatant bs. Pirate being at B is also pretty inaccurate, zerker at B is also inaccurate, kensei that high is also copium, shaman not being better than jorm and cent is also wrong lol
A few spots I disagree with. Nobu should be an easy D tier, Medjay should go infront of Highlander, Kensei should go to mid-B, Warmonger should take Kensei's original spot, and Tiandi should be infront of Warden and Shaolin. Other than that I agree with everything on this list. Great job.
Thanks brotha, appreciate it
Nobushi not d tier bro tf u r smoking
@@alilsalty7614 The only thing in her kit that isn't easily reactable is the hidden stance lights, and I can still react to those. The char is shit.
@The_Holy_Dragon she is not a shit character, she still has a good kit. Hidden stance, kick, undodgable heavies. She is a good b tier hero. The only characters that deserve d tier is peacekeeper and nuxia
@lorenzFH Sup lorenz. Hope you've been well.
19:55 Monkey got me to GM, he plays me, not the other way around 😂 W character, hits lights are almost unreactable
I have no idea how Nobushi is not in D, besides her ludicrously high damage she really has nothing, as long as you're not on last gen the kick is her only offense and its like as slow as old Jorm neutral bash and Hidden Stance feels so inconsistent to cancel into for me
I threw her B cuz IMO she has some good tools on defense (hella s on dodge light, dodge recoveries, hidden stance) and also can deal a lot of damage. She also has some good range too. I will say that yes she’s very reactable but if your opponent is actually attacking and not staring she can be really solid
Where would you put pk after her buffs?
Probably a hot take, but I think Shaolin was perfectly fine without a rework, except for a couple minor things he was not that bad. I think the rework just made him more boring and too good
Only real changes I would do is knock Kensei down from bottom A to mid/high B and bring Medjay from low B to low A. I personally don't have much issue reacting to the vast majority of Kensei's offense on top of the fact he's so dam stam hungry to get into his "ok" at best mix ups. If they buffed his stam and sped some things up I could see Kensei being crazy strong. Medjay I think is all around solid character and really isn't lack in any real aspect for duels outside of maybe some defensive tools.
The problem with Medjay is that he doesn’t really have anything if you can react to UB, and his bash does only 9 damage and when it’s chained it’s reactable af
Im new to for honor does it matter who i start with? or does it not rlly matter since i just need to get familiar with the game in general
At the beginning, just really pick who you think is fun. Most people you will encounter as a new player will struggle with different characters than really good people. Though picking a higher tier character will give you an edge later on if you learn em. Thats if they arent changed balance wise
Play everything. The better you know every character, the better you can make good reads (predicting attacks or reactions to attacks and countering them as or before they come out).
@@stinks3137 learning to play one character well is better advice than trying to learn how to play everyone at the same time. Learning different heroes movesets will just come to you as you play
I started for honor late 2022. I recommended first playing which ever character you think is the coolest. After you get some time, start playing the characters you struggle fighting against the most. To this day the people I hate fighting are usually characters I’ve barely played.
I know lawbringer is bad but i just don't see how LB is the worst duelist in the game, i think LB is defenitly better than nobu and glad. And i think he might be better than some other chars but those are argueable
I put him D because all he has in his kit is hyper armor heavies and dodge bashes. That’s it
@@Realyxqjc2 he has more than glad and nobu in my opinion, think he's better than those heroes at the very least
The tier list is not bad at all. I always thought Warden was S and that people complain just to complain about him. But Nobu in B instead of D is insane lmao. If your opponent has any reactions at all, you're done for. She has 0 offense/real mix. I respect the opinion tho; it's just an insane placement to me.
Yeah I get it man, the thing about my tier lists tho is I factor in things such as timing ability, dmg numbers, defensive capabilities. But yeah if your opponent just stares at you the whole fight ur not gonna win
Overall pretty solid, only change id make is to put LB in D tier xD that hero has nothing at all.
33:00 ;)
The fact there’s something in almost every single one of these chars kits that you react to :(
😭😭😭😭
as someones who only plays 4s this list blows my mind. that S teir gave me a stroke 😂
Interesting indeed
How are you going to put warmonger above vg
I kick ass with Medjay
I just come back to this game after 3 years and decide to main Zhanhu. And he is only in B tier? Aw man.
Like a lot of characters in this game, unfortunately, he's just a noob stomper that becomes meh once you get decent.
Tho he is prolly a low A / high B on the tier list, just cause of his recoveries and dodge attack being hard to punish
I'm not really a duelist but my opinion, Nobu & Zanhu are Low C & as painful it is to say.. LB is right above Nobu & Zanhu in C 😭.
I can understand putting LB above nobu but not above zhanhu LOL
@Realyxqjc2 I only say below LB because his moveset is similar to wardens in a way & depending on who's playing him he's easy to differ.
Thanks for the tier list
At last someone recognizes how truly awful Shugoki is. Everyone else always says "yeah, shugo is annoying but..." NO BUTTS 🍑, Shugo is the most brain dead hero IN THE GAME, and if the Shugo is played by someone with half a brain. You. Will. Lose. 🧂 🧂 🧂
Why are all teir list like ypu can react to x move. Loke yeah the top 10% of players the rest cant
ig cuz this is a "comp" tierlist
@flashbacka1122 yeah but its an unhealthy way to balance and rate characters I just with there was a " realistic " one thays not just shitting on casuals cyz they live in there mums basement
This is my personal tier list
@@Realyxqjc2 can u do casual 🙏
how to get into competitive play?
Real what was that first nuxia clip with eating a heavy...
Tried parrying on animation lmao
Ah yess mejay at B, the only character that has a bash that starts at 100ms and ends at 400ms
As a valk main she really is mid af, and if you’re playing shinobe you might as well quit😭
pov ur a gladiator main: 🦶🔱
😂
Okay now this is where I have to say anything nux xia literally destroy anyone with full guard so high b for her understable
Shaman not in S tier? Opinion invalid.
Only reason I put her S tier is I’m good at reacting to her bleed lights and struggle against the heroes in S tier more
Bro must not know who real yx is😭🙏🏽
curious to hear why you think warden is better than cent
Instant unreactable variable bash with warden. Opens up a lot more options. For cent, you either have to use his kick, light or heavy to get into his unreactable variable bash in his punch. Two of those are reactable. So for cent his safest option is to do unreactable kick to get into his unreactable punch. I’m sure you can see where I’m going with this.. That’s why the bash changes helped cent a shit ton because technically every single one of cent openers were reactable with his kick before being at 500ms. Someone like Realyx could react to that nearly everytime if he was trying his nuts off.
I feel like shinbob should be top of S tier honestly
Definitely a valid take, I just have a hatred for shugoki 😂
I don't understand how Ocelotl is that high? Yes he has a great offense, but his defense is so bad!
He has pretty solid defense since he can counter variable timed bashes with his back stance and he has a dodge light you can delay super hard. But his insane offense makes him suuuper good. Constant pressure and he’s basically unpunishable
@@Realyxqjc2 Show me the way! Im so bad with him. :(
"Competitive tier list"
Puts Nobushi whose entire kit is reactable at B tier.
Technically berserker’s entire kit is reactable too. But it’s just my opinion, I’ve done well into top duelists with nobushi you just have to play her really well
Dude what are you talking about your acting like centurion kick and heavy are totally unreachable I could see dat shi a mile away with xbox connection. But idk if you said this or not but shinobi kick is 1 frame that’s unreachable you literally have to guess if he gonna kick you or not to go along with his 50/50 unblockable shi actually busted. He’s the def of unreachable 12:00
But what if the dodge forward gb gets you bc you think he’s gonna kick?😂
This comment is GOLD 🤣🤣🤣
@@Realyxqjc2 bro DOES NOT play high tier opponents 😂
Bro warden is so bad in 1v1 all you have to do is turtle and light parry him and the second he dodges gb him idk how he’s a s tier I get he has stam pause and good stam recovery but bro😭
Turtling is probably the worst option against warden 😂
He has variable timed bashes that stam pause and Stam drain, and you can’t light parry him if he only does bashes. Overall beast of a hero
@@Realyxqjc2 but how will he bash if he has to dodge if the opponent just gb he’ll get smashed but I get what you sayin
Shugoki haters unite 🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽
UNITE
Shugo and Hito both equally annoying in dominion
Poor gladiator
Yeah he’s in a tough spot
me when none of my mains are S tier 😢at least 2 of em are A
That’s a good thing bro trust me
Dude im gonna agree with maybe 10 of your choices.
Come back after a long break conq went from S to B :(
He’s still solid man, before his rework he was so good on console 😭
@@Realyxqjc2good to know I'll play him again just trying out the new characters :)
Everyone puts Ocelotl in F tier. I'm confused
Whoever did that has 0 knowledge of the game respectfully 😂
@@Realyxqjc2 Everyone says that, you're the first one I've seen that has put him above C tier.
everyone that has no idea about the game... everyone who has knowledge and are top level put Oce at the highest of picks because hes simply OP @@liamoxd9416
As a highlander main I disagree
BP in 1v1 against a good player is B tier at best
I would beg to differ, his defense alone makes him a very safe pick at the high level
@@Realyxqjc2 his unblockable spends tons of stam, so if you check that is easy to read, blue/orange mix up is only available after light opener, heavy openers of any kind are a risk with no rewars, cc in higj levele 1v1 are a free light parry every time, side opener heavies againts him beat his dodge attacks, his fb counter and an attempt to light parry B is literally the max you can get him (14th worldwide BP for time played)
@@atynniehawke9341 Respectfully, time played does not correlate with skill. And I don't know your skill level, but I've been playing with the best duelists in the game for quite some time and have consulted with top players. BP is the only hero in the game that can punished bashes with a heavy. His flip is insane since it also has recovery. I respect your opinion, but some of the points you made apply to almost all other heroes. And saying a cc is a free light parry every time is just incorrect unless you spam it the entire fight
@@Realyxqjc2 to flip a bash means you must read it (from neutral, not fb stance) you get 24 damage for a flip that refills all opponents stamina, leaves you back to neutral with a cost of 30 stam, easily not that impressive. Also saying that his only peculiar aspect of countering bashes/unblockable while ignoring the rest of his clunky kit is up biased, he has a good defense but a quite mediocre offense, so B is what would fit more such aspects
Hey, that's me at 21:55! Never expected to be in a yt vid lmao
Warden not S
He's good but too basic, boring to play
bruh
I live for your Shugo takes. 20 minute monolgue about how crutch Shugo is for next vid pls?
I could make an hour long video on my hatred for shugoki 😂
I disagree I think orochi is bad he has 1 unblockable his dodge forward is reactable and his storm rush is also reactable in the higher levels
But,since the bash change his dodge forward pressure is kinda nuts
@@dominickblazing8472 I mean not really
He has insane dodge forward pressure, and yes the storm rush is reactable but it’s a read you have to make
@@Realyxqjc2 I personally have had different experiences
No way dude, storm rush and foward dodge light are meant to punish enemies trying to dodge the kick, if you stand still you eat the kick.
But saying that to one of the safest heroes is mad, probably facing bad oros
Imagine warden S tier
Most definitely S tier
@@Realyxqjc2 Bro, his offense is good but his defence is suck,he has only 2 options on unlockable attack while everyone has 3 and you have to be parry god and read game like a god to win because of this
@@Realyxqjc2 i think he's almost the weakest character,he needs dodge attack and hyper armor on first heavy to be decent
ur tweakin @@user-xh9pc7yx9u
@@user-xh9pc7yx9u what the fuck are you smoking 😂
Putting pirate in b tier feels criminal to me, in my opinion he is one of the strongest anti gank heroes in the game, up there with Tiandi
This is a duel tier list
@@Realyxqjc2 fair enough, do you have a separate tier list for antigank heroes? If not it would be interesting to see your views on which heroes are best
trash
i put shugo in high b shao in mid a shaman low b aramusha in top b pirate , glad and nobu in f tier, raider in c and i agrree with the rest
Lol
Shaman low b????
Ok Nachito now that is a crazy take 😭
1v1 me and give me tips plz