India's Privately Owned City
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Living in Gurgaon for past 15 yrs and not knowing this, feels like my whole life is a lie.
I believe on those wealthy middle class who are employed by those comapanies have rights to live, thus that city is not publicly available for everyone.
gurugram*
@@SkumarC exactly . Like every other city in India.
Ok, now that I know you are a resident, tell me what are the primary interactions of Gurgaon citizens with the govt/municipality there?? Which office you first go to, to get any sarkari things done??
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In India in the architecture courses we often study Gurgaon as a case study of how not to build city.
But is it even a city?
ah but it IS a city tho
tbh architecture courses all over the world are pathetic at anything other than technicalities; which kills any sort of innovative jumps/creative design in exchange for marginal optimization. Chandigarh and other grid layout cities are lauded in formal courses, but having lived in such 'planned' cities they are probably worse than most haphazard ones
@@linkinlinkinlinkin654 No sir. Live in a unplanned city once, you will not like it unless it is some wonder.
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"Why would anyone move to a place with no central sewage or water system?'
Well people seem to think Dubai is great...
😳
Right dubai doesn't even have a sewage system.
@@anantjha664 they do, it's jsut comprised of trucks lol
yes Burj Khalifa doesn't have sewage. Infact I thought of dubai first when I saw the sewer trucks in that video. FYI I lived in UAE for 6-7 years
@@I_killed_that_beard_guy imagine being from Awaam and not knowing that his city is not under govt control
Been watching Polymatter for years now, never thought I'd be seeing my own streets in a video. Being born and raised in Gurgaon, I never realised this isn't how cities are supposed to be. I used to think it's normal to have slums next to a mall. Only in the past couple years have I realised the extent of the disparities those not as fortunate as me have faced. This inspired me and now I'm studying economics, hoping to understand the very place I've lived in.
brats
Great going mate
Lol? I dont think gurgaon has slums, that too near a mall
@@ninjastar4076 keep thinking that then, it wont change the reality
@@sidhantjasrotia7079 sorry, im a 5 year resident of gurugram, i have been to many places, i have seen villages, but not slums
Thank you
Being an architect ,we are taught about gurgoan as the Case Study ,how not to do Urban Planning .
LMAO
Turns out it's still a lot better than government planned cities
@@afterburnerfox Turns out it's really not.
What are the problems with Gurgaon's urban planning?
@@blakedake19 Govt planned city Lavasa and Amravathi seem to be doing really well 😂 My only hope is Dholera and GIFT city,which is a public private partnership
Imagine companies coming to you because it is easier to pay bribes....
Because that's how corrupted the nation is
@@abisek.e7636 The only thing holding us back is corruption. We could easily be a developed country if there was no corruption (and we voted sensibly).
@@forestreee I disagree even devolved nation has corruption, the point is how you can minimize corruption which in India's case it is government having too many power and abusing it and you can get a practical solution if you think about it
Just my opinion
@@abisek.e7636 Yeah Man Starting A Company In India Is Still Really Hard And Entrepreneurship Is Highly Despised By Most Indian Parents India Is A Red Tape Bureaucratic Nightmare
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Correction. Gurgaon accounts for 30 percent of the tax revenue collected by the state govt. Not the federal govt. Unlike other federal countries, the central govt here collects more taxes than all the states combined. Mainly because of Goods and Services Tax. They compensate the states a few billion dollars each, every year.
yes
they keep pouring all the tax money in UP and Bihar which get vanished by the corruption there, other states would have been much more developed if they didn't spend all the money on corrupt states.
@@ritwikreddy5670 no they dont both of these states gets what they deserve
@@ritwikreddy5670 absolutely correct
@@ritwikreddy5670 stop being so south chauvinist, we people complain about how north indians are rude etc, while infact we are not that different, corruption in South Indian states are little more sophisticated than the crude comical practices in the north, fyi corruption in our southern states is hard to root out than the northern states. Northern states suffer from governance issues while we in the south have institutional rot.
As for gst revenue going to those two states, it's a Destination based tax, it's not that government is taking money away from the southern states and giving it to the north, the north consumes more goods than south, they're just getting back what they paid to the government in so far as GST is concerned, infact prior to gst it was unjust on northern states who were actually paying taxes but all money went to western and southern states.
Which is why west and south indian state developed and the north remained in poverty, fyi the biggest opposition to gst was from the state of Gujarat who rightly saw the implications of GST.
I thought India's private city is Jamshedpur. I think it's the only Indian city without a municipality and every development is done by TATA and is way better planned that gurgaon but of course gurgaon has more modern buildings, Jamshedpur was built 100 years ago but is one of the cleanest and most sorted cities in India.
Jamshedpur is a township. And township are one of the forms of Local Government.
It does have a municipality. But certain areas of the city are managed by the Tatas and the rest is managed by the government. The Tatas take care of cleaning the roads, providing power,etc in those areas.
Gurgaon and Noida's future is bright, as my opinion, coz is lie under Delhi NCR
As a person who has worked in contraction supplies in India I can guarantee the level of corruption represented in this video about land and property is nothing compared to what actually happens and yes almost all government offices participate in corruption.
damn that's such a shame since India has a lot of potential but corruption can nip any development in the butt like that.
Yeah, as a normal citizen of India, I can guarantee you that there is a lot of corruption just in plain sight
Sad
I am Indian and most of my family members are govt employees, you are 100% right and this is very sad but the fact is if you are govt employee and you don't accept bribes someone alse will, you are just a replaceable part of a huge well oiled machinery.
As an Indian I agree. Corruption is very common amd normal here.
It's actually worse than what he says. There's corruption on every level. So much so that there are unofficial "prices" attached to any permit or government task
Wow, I dont know this and I'm living in India.
Same
Me too
Gurugram
There's jamshedpur too
Same and I live in delhi
Gurgaon is like a red carpet. It's all shiny and glamourous as long as you don't step out
It's also the startup city of India. Oyo, Delhivery, Zomato, urban company and many more unicorns belongs to this city. People are extremely rich here but governance is zero
Lol what is Bangalore then ?
@@kiranp5611 Bangalore is also good👍
Was born here (gurgaon ) and living here for past 20 years and believe me when he talked about taking a step outside these artificial luxury islands to see it's dark side it's real . There is a road named khandsa Road , just driving through it during monsoon season is a huge feat in itself . The road becomes a fucking shit hole , flooded with a composition of 40% rain water and 59% sewage water and 1% ( the hell knows where it comes from ).
Yeah but that's not really unique to gurgaon. It's basically the same for any indian metro city.
@@pramilashaktawat4429 please stop you're spamming
As a foreigner, I always wanted to ask a native Indian about why you guys generally seem to have such a challenge with evironmental issues, littering etc. Not just for this city but in general. Is it as bad as it's usually depicted in the media. What is the main cause you think? At the end of the day, even the most corrupt official or police officer has to live there so wouldn't they at least have apartial interest to keep the place clean and healthy?
@@devdhanda3958 people using rivers as sewers, littering everywhere, destroying nature and the environment without repercussions etc.
@@hazardeur Dude these are first world problems. Most people have to worry about getting a job(if you're young), managing daily budgets, educating their children and other such things. Most people you meet on YT are atleast somewhat economically better off compared to the average Indian because they know English. Cleanliness will only come when basic struggles are eased. And when an atmosphere like that is created, even many well off people stop caring(since it's dirty anyway so they might as well save the hassle). That coupled with the fact that it's very hard to impose fines on cleanliness(again, because corruption) makes it a very hard challenge to solve. We've made some progress on that front recently but there's still a long way to go, specially in the economically weaker "slum" areas of urban cities
A legion of private guards and a fleet of technicals? In the event of a major political or physical catastrophe overtaking India, I expect this cyberpunk city-state to expand its power rapidly.
They are but Indian population is quite tremendous to happen such a thing and people aren't that loyal these days
Literally 500 heavily armed militia too
not quite there yet, we need one of those company to be a monopoly and then we'll be there
It doesn’t even need a disaster, if all these developers start merging or make a company to solely run the city then the city will explode in powee
@@gokulomega thats where money is used.
Do one for Bangalore bro.
Has best IT industry in India.
But also has worst traffic and roads in the world
@Hammer Head is this the city version of "Go to Pakistan"?
@Hammer Head Bruh, you're such sore loser just cause he told the truth, btw from Karnataka too
@Hammer Head what are you? 12?
@@Baronnax nicely said
@Hammer Head Its like your mom says your room is dirty so please cleanup for your own hygiene.
And you tell her
If it is dirty Then please stay out of my room 😂
What happened was, back when Congress was the central government. DLF wanted to buy a lot of land for development purposes. So, the government instead of selling it directly to DLF did some trickery (corruption and bureaucracy) and sold the land to Robert Wadra who was son-in-law of Sonia Gandhi at a very cheap price. Mr. Wadra then went ahead and sold the land to DLF builders, making huge profits. That's why DLF owns a lot of land in Gurugram.
Yes, this is why the city developed so awkwardly, it was given to corrupt central government and companies tried to make the most of it because the point of the city was for business anyway.
Damm, alot of these things happened when I was kid, so I just have a brief memory of my parents watching it on news etc. Things make so much sense now😅
@@divyanshu3149 yeah me too, :D
Put him in jail.
@@MohitKumar-jf8lz can't happen till India has this current 250 years old judiciary model
The privately-owned city having an area called "cyber city" is pretty on the nose
Cybercity is just where the offices of major companies are located.
India is so big that it has a private city and a communist state
@@StormyTea oh yeah. Forgot about those
Its just what the Business District is called. Also its not so Apocalyptic as Polymatter is talking about. Most Indians Haven't even heard of this side of Gurgaon.
Its still better than most Indian citites at least
If you are just air dropped in cyber city you would probably think like you are in Hong kong or singapore but that is only true till you are within its territory. Cyber city runs 24 hrs and is like cyberpunk city at night with big LED screens flashing ads , MNC staffs having coffee and roaming at 2AM etc.
Having spent my whole life in Delhi & Gurgaon, i can say this video is pure truth.
Gurgaon is an unplanned city with worldclass housing complexes, office spaces which starts to flood in 5 mins of rain since there is no drainage no planning. .
State (Haryana) govt. gets 75 -80% revenue from this city but doesnt care about it as most people are migrants & comprises a small fraction of votes.
It looks amazing from metro But when you step out of your world class homes or Mercedes, you see how an unplanned city of third world looks like.
I can agree with you all.
But not with your last line.
Because "third world country" has different meaning than this.
ppl who live there have no political solution to this,it seems...Gurgaon is a good example of "India grows at night cuz tht's when the govt is asleep"
Seems to be me, it could have been a good city. But it requires people to pay taxes, and for those taxes to stay inside the local area in order to provide services to that local area. Instead of the taxes going to a "state" and then the state distribute it else where. This would force the other cities in the sate to improve their situation so that they could also have lots of taxes to work with. Also most taxes should come from people being productive, NOT from real estate development (sale of land etc.), but rather from civilians being healthy, having a good education or skill so they are productive at work.
@@nischaymiglani2617 Well, some developing Third World Countries probably have Cities with better Urban Planning then this City lol.
@@randomka-52alligatorthatis34 first understand what "third world country" means.
Well, Rapid Metro is under heavy dept. The Compaies involved in its construction failed to manage it. And thus last year, Its Control were given to Delhi Metro Rail Corporation ( A joint venture of Delhi Government and Central Government which runs Delhi Metro ) and Delhi Metro is able to handle Rapid Metro quite effectively.
And they say the government can’t handle stuff well
@@akshitkumar9402 goverment still loses money on it nothing changes there my guy.
@P Pierre you can check the financial data of DMRC yourself they are making big losses. I've worked there as a finance trainee for a month and a half.
@@prateekpatil5524 Public transport and welfare services are not meant to be a profit-making venture. They are meant to facilitate growth in other sectors.
@@Sujay95 that's unrelated. I only mentioned the fact that they still don't turn a profit.
As someone from delhi who has been to gurgaon a lot of times it's stunning to see so many high rise buildings and modern architecture over there but gurgaon doesn't really have a culture like other cities that's why a lot of people don't shift over there unless it's for money
So true man. I changed my job just so I can shift back to Delhi again from Gurgaon. Delhi might be overpopulated but it's still a far better city.
@@Anurag-xe2jp why Delhi better?
@@robbenvanpersie1562 Gurgaon is far more expensive. Delhi not only has better public transport but even autowalas don't overcharge that much.Most of all,Delhi doesn't feel artificial. It's hard to explain but there are few large gated societies in Delhi. You get the same security as other people. Food stalls,old monuments everywhere,tec. all feel very natural.There are countless places in Delhi full of history including restaurants that have been there from British era. There is also too much diversity all over Delhi .Large gated societies can often get very dull because you don't meet people across the different classes ,communities and background. It can even feel prison like in those societies because it can be a different world once you step outside those societies. There are few public parks in Gurgaon outside those societies.
@@Anurag-xe2jp I have been to both Delhi and Gurugram but to me Gurugram felt more cleaner.Although living in both the cities might bring out the differences.
@@Anurag-xe2jp Also delhi kind of feels more unorganised than Gurugram.
Stayed in Gurgaon while I was in India. It was bizarre. Trees for miles and then suddenly out of nowhere huge skyscrapers, usually half-built or empty, and then back to trees again. We probably drove for an hour and this general pattern was all we saw, over and over again. It was like living in a post-apocalyptic landscape. Didn't help that it was the most polluted city on Earth that year (2018).
didnt know about that
"most polluted city"
Jeez, how'd it beat both Delhi and Beijing?
@@recordkeepingandinformatio8206 no Delhi still is most polluted but it is one of the polluted cities.
@@abhishekdev258 I have lived in both New York and San Francisco. New York is a very congested, just like Mumbai, but it is so much better than any north Indian city. And San Francisco, is in my top 2 cities in the world. Apart from the high cost of living, the city is very well-connected to nature, the hilly roads, fresh fishes, etc. Please never ever try to compare any Indian city with a developed country's city, it's embarrassing. I currently live in Boston, that's the number one city to live in for me. It's like a better version of New York.
@@recordkeepingandinformatio8206 I went to Beijing in late 2019, it was better and cleaner than I thought it’d be and colder.
me: Can I get Cyberpunk 2077?
mom: We have Cyberpunk at home
Cyberpunk at home:
Compared to nite city, it doesn't look to bad.
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It's not a cyberpunk city. Gurgaon is one of the most developed part of India. India's economic engine along with Mumbai and Bangalore
@@TheRishijoesanu it is atleast part of cyberpunk city tho like corporatism
@@TheRishijoesanu Nite city was pretty developed as well....
for the rich
Never expected Polymatter to make a video about Gurgaon lol
Been living here 12yrs and have seen it grow from farmland to a bustling metropolis.
Does it have Problems? A tonne of them
Not to mention crime is very rampant and the whole place feels lawless. I've seen drunk cops forcibly stealing everything from an ice cream pushcart around midnight. Brawls and fights were a common sight when i lived there for two months in 2017.
And despite really good road infrastructure and a metro, traffic jams are a daily occurrence.
Pakistani bot spotted
@@nehashah7288 umadbro?
Barbarians. I hate the place but have to go there to see my parents.
So someone was playing SimCity IRL.
Someone not very good at city builders, that is.
But Simcity was much more State Capitalist then this, what a bad example
more like several players playing Cities Skyline on a same map with their own population which only they can profit from
more like City Skyline but on multiplayer.
@@aturchomicz821 State capitalism is an oxymoron. That’s just socialism. Socialism is the public i.e. government control of the economy
Another private(somewhat) city in India - Jamshedpur. Named after the industrialist who developed it - Jamshedji Tata
nowhere near dystopic as this though...
@@assassin9763 i agree, jamshedpur is the steelhub of india and kinda developed for a city of it's TYPE.
pawai also
I think south korean oligarchs usually also have factory "city" like Hyundai iirc
but i think jamshedpur is a very good city
I live in South india and never knew gurgaon was run by corpn
Amazing video!
Thanks for the info🤝
Things are changing.. infrastructure has improved leaps and bounce. I went to the city after 5 years. I could see the difference. Yet so much needs to be done.
Is it still because of the private companies or has the government stepped in?
@@buddermonger2000 Not sure, but someone did say that the government stepped in
Rained for 20 mins today while I was coming back from work and city streets were flooded leading to 1 hour long traffic jams. Improved my ass.
Attitude of locals need to change. They are insufferable.
As an Indian from South, I have been there few times, 20 years ago to recent past I was stunned at the change, the difference was unimaginable
@Mayur Kanth positive. It has a GDP growth rate of 25% per year while India is at 6%
@@CoolMan-ig1ol bro you can't compare a town to a country 😒
As another southerner, I would love to know what the hell is going on in the north
@@diyagore1784 nothing people making issues out of nothing, if people think dubai is good then gurgaon is far better
@Xander at Sid's don't compare ur Navi Mumbai with Mumbai, u r not the same level, u will never be on the same level.
(context: have lived in Gurgaon for 6 months)
One issue is the lack of green spaces, trees, parks etc. Because green spaces were never incentivised to be built, the whole city is basically concrete (save from small pockets of green inside residential complexes)
There is a lot of disconnect inside the city; what i mean is slums-next-to-high-rise type of scenario
The drainage system is great if you are in a privately built residential complex, but for everywhere else it's a joke. Even the main highway practically becomes a river whenever it rains (ironically right next to high rises and offices)
The railway station is outside the city, like 40-45 minutes drive. I used to board a metro, go to Delhi and take a train from there instead of going to Gurgaon's station
Pollution, due to the lack of green cover, heavy traffic, private generators and dust everywhere
In short, if you are affluent and your lifestyle is primarily going out clubbing/restros/bars, then it is great.
For everyone else, it sucks
Summarised well
Ever hear the Tragedy of the Boston Commons? This sounds little like this.
Sounds like exactly what you would expect
@Titan Rising Greenery can be implemented even in big cities, if planned correctly. Chandigarh is such an example, it has 1 million people and still a sprawling green cover. It helps with pollution levels, and especially with mitigating the urban hear island effect, also the ground provides water absorption, helping with the rainwater. Lastly, it also prevents dust storms from becoming severe due to lose soil
As for pollution, a robust public transport system can help with that, which is again severely lacking in GGN.
@Paritosh Malhotra Delhi itself also has a lot of green cover around the Ridge
Developed parts- Maintained by private sector
Under developed parts- Maintained by the government
They're not or barely maintained by the government. That's why areas outside the private islands are such a mess. The government just straight up doesn't maintain them.
Haryana govt is as useful as the traffic lights in GTA
@@bikrambhattacharya6524 lmao 😂😂 traffic lights in GTA 😅 that's hilarioua
@@bikrambhattacharya6524 Underrated
America: We’re the number one in capitalism!
India: Hold my entire city.
It's not like that . India in 1980s and early 1990s were way more Socialist than say China or USSR . Only difference was since it was a democracy , it had allowed private ownership .In 1990 , India relaxed its economic system to be a bit more capitalist. But when Capital reached, they were looking for an established place and here Gurgaon won . Even today Architects in India are taught at their universities about Gurgaon as the example how not to built a city.
@@s9ka972 Indira Gandhi wasn't that bad lol. Not worse than USSR lmaoooooo
@@oliverqueen5883 she definitely was bad. ignoring her shitty socialist policies, the fact that she never gained full control of kashmir and allowed pakistan to infiltrate it further and also the fact that her governement exacerbated tensions between sikhs and hindus to the point where siks were demanding a separate state called khalistan makes her the worst leader in the history of india alongside rajiv gandhi. nowadays the situation in punjab has calmed and most sikhs don't want an independent state but kashmir is very much still a disputed territory thanks to her and the incompetent congress party. the only good thing that happened during her rule was that india beat pakistan in a war and that's why she's regarded highly but overall she was a strict, authoritarian socialist leader kinda like margaret thatcher but the left wing version.
Fun fact: South Korea has 2 cities owned by corporations(Hyundai and Samsung)
The city of Las Vegas is also like this. Not the entire county, but a few blocks. The casinos run everything themselves like water and police force.
No, you mean Paradise. The LV strip lies in Paradise, the city of Las Vegas is neighboring it. And Paradise is not a city but an incorporated place with low taxes.
Nah.. Drugs, guns , gambling ,prostitution aka Mafia built las Vegas aka sin City.. It's mafia heaven..
@@PS-wz9fc Lol dont watch too much movies , just go and enjoy there With a BRAIN.
And all these things are all ruled by a single man called mr.house.
@@PS-wz9fc used to be now it's corporation heaven
There is a common saying on Gurgaon : "If Gurgaon is possible, then anything is possible"
It's really not as bad/dystopian as this guy makes it out to be. Govt has connected water now
@@AKumar-co7oe whoa, people have water!!! A human right, whoa! So good they have it after like what? 60 years? 1,5millon people? Yeah.
@@mariomoneta2833 lol
@@mariomoneta2833 If there wouldn't be water for so many years, then do you think people would go there? Of course people have water! In all residential apartment complexes (and all of the buildings), there is all that you would expect. Water, sewage, electricity is there. This guy is most likely trying to defame india or using old information from 2016/2011/2012 as couldn't find any new information. The city has improved.
@@mariomoneta2833 Whoa, drinkable water is scarce in the northern part of India. He said water connection, not water in its natural form or tap water. Water plants need to be set up and filtered to be made available to the city. Sit your simplistic ass down
Damn Gurgaon has been playing cyberpunk 2077 since 1979 minus all the tech. Truly a dystopia.
i would suggest you to watch a video of cyber city, gurugoan and you'll see that there is somewhat that cyberpunk type of tech already .
@@navammalik6882 Oh damn hyperspeed. Nighy city is actually Gurgaon.
@@justaguy6216 th-cam.com/users/shortsS_PwKpq3Bk4?feature=share The first highway which was shown in the video above was made by a corporate in such a design that will reflect it's logo .
@@navammalik6882 Bruhhhh yikes
I lived in Gurgaon since 2014 and I confirm what he says.
It's actually a good place for expat to live in.
We have our own Gurgaon in Indonesia. The "city" is just outside Jakarta and comprises 6 big private property developers, spread across 2 cities and 1 district. The place is called Tangerang, and those 6 private property developers have their own "island" with self-sustaining public infrastructures. The property developers built those infrastructures (road, sewage, water treatment centre, parks, and shopping malls) to boost property prices. Moreover, the public infrastructure was maintained using the city's maintenance fund, paid by the residents each month to the developer and not to the state's administrative government.
Interesting
Bruh, Tangerang is not as erratic as this, even outside the developer area it's still pretty nice, i know this because i liver here too
@@jdcsiahaan Bruh, Tangerang is not as erratic as this, even outside the developer area it's still pretty nice, i know this because i liver here too
@@jdcsiahaan Bruh, Tangerang is not as erratic as this, even outside the developer area it's still pretty nice, i know this because i liver here too, Cipondoh and Ciledug is 10 times better than your average indian suburb
@@briantarigan7685 True. Tangerang also looks cozier than the congested Jakarta.
Being an Indian I never knew this .. Damn !!
same
these type of things did'nt come on whatsapp
@@kabirsingh7630 lmao
Thank Arnab Goswami 🙏
That fact that this channel cuts out some part of Arunachal Pradesh from India is the reason why I don't feel safe staying in Arunachal. Being an indigenous tribe from here, it always hunts me that China might come and take over this land. And even outside countries don't recognise the whole Arunachal as India is just soo scary.
Look at this guy content
We won't let china grab it.
Rest of India will protect you. Nothing to worry about. Your concerns are correct but Indian Military is here
Don't worry we have nuclear weapons. China won't attack us when they know that we can blow up Beijing in 5 minutes. (And vice versa which is why we won't attack them either,not that we would have anyway)
@@mayankgoud9503 india military has 0 attack helicopters and aging air force
1:28 didn't know Gurgaon was in Rajasthan 😭
On the other hand, we have another city just right around the corner i.e., Noida with moderate private ownership. There's a whole expressway going through this city that is privately-owned (Yamuna Expressway, Jaypee Group). But, Noida on the other hand is very- well planned and managed. You exit your apartment building, you enter wide green and clean roads, no wiring problems (majorly underground), no sewage issues, I don't know about power, could be private. Future is Noida and Greater Noida. Gurugram has always been shady.
I've heard noida is equally unsafe...
@@EragonShadowSlasher noida is safer, still unsafe, mind you, but it has better management and better facilities. Greater Noida on the other hand, I don’t really know.
The crime rate in Noida is much higher. Shut d f up
@@kritikasrivastava344 It's very unsafe. You as a women should know better not to defend Noida.
I travelled to Noida once and found sewage lying on the floor of the roads with numerous mosquitoes in the air.
Basically this is anarcho-capitalism in action, just on a smaller scale (a city instead of an entire country) than ancaps would like.
India also has a truly communist city. Crazy shit happens here all the time.
@@ronitrajput3934 what city is that?
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Isn't that pfp Stalin?
Still more successful than Seattle's "the People's Boogaloo".
People here in India get easily blinded by glass buildings, wide roads etc, but they don't realise how terribly planned this city is. And how a good city isn't about 10 lane highway in the middle of it which only brings all sorts of pollution, the urban rail transit system of Gurugram barely covers 2% of it.
Yeah, true that. Most of the biggest cities in India have become what they are due to necessity and not due to planning. Govt. has been building planned cities like Dholera, Gift city but they also have become slow
So?? If govt isnt doing anything let the people do.
Gurugram is an important part of india, contributing a lot to it, and glass buildings thing is true everywhere not just india
@@ninjastar4076 the point is that the city is terribly planned, just walk down and you'll notice hellish noise pollution out of 10 lane highway which disconnects public by cutting the city in two parts. The sewage trucks are needed to get waste out of city since uniform plumbing system is not implemented, some buildings have their own fire trucks since there's no government to control it. Public transportation system and public spaces are very important yet in this private city it is rare. Out of city's bounds you'll notice terrible roads which depict high income inequality. From management to plan, everything is poor for a city to be proud of. Hence government involvement becomes necessary.
@@engineeredarmy1152 I have lived here for 5 years. Never seen any poop trucks in my life? As far as noise pollution goes, it's far less compared to other cities. If people can love dubai so much then gurgaon is far better.
Public transport needs work, yes agreed, but plumbing has improved a lot right in front of my eyes.(at least in my area)
Out of the main city yes agreed the roads are bad, but the govt is working and that barren land in being ready for builds, just search south gurugram.
@@engineeredarmy1152 and the fact that u can't even walk in the city, every apartment complex have everything inside them starting from schools to markets.
It's not a city, it has no culture. it's one big dystopian park
Gurgaon: *exists*
Ancaps: *”I’LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK!”*
My quick takeaway from this video is that:
A privately owned city is better than one run by a corrupt government
A privately owned city still sucks
I'd rather live somewhere that has a government coordinating and reining in privately own parts of a city
... But my governor wants to attract tech companies by letting them build company towns so maybe I have to move soon...
Governor? Do you live in the United States? If so, which state? Or do you live somewhere else?
@@jeffbenton6183 Nevada. Look up Sisolak and his Innovation Zones. It's shelved for the time being but I'm sure it'll reemerge.
@@GyroCannon Gurgaon is a pretty good city to live in if you're upper middle class or just outright rich.
At least the privately owned city isn't a company town lmao
Anarcho-capitalists be like:
But turns out the city isn't chaos
@@ictoan5966 ye
@@ictoan5966 *if you can afford to live in the non chaotic places
@@tachy1801 it's not that expensive actually bcz employment living near means better efficiency but yeah not for average joe
@@ictoan5966 2/3 of the city doesn't have sewage, I think that's chaotic enough, also the lack of firetrucks and sporadic electricity
The problem is that the government isn't strong as compared to North American & European countries
Corruption here is disgustingly high and buying and selling land is like giving a board exam
You should watch Second Thought if you think US government's corruption isn't also disgustingly high, but except that I kinda agree. There are some exceptions in India like Kerala, of course.
@@Srijit1946 it took me 3-4 years to buy 1-2 acres of land
Sometimes they write my name wrong
Sometimes my address is wrong
I think they were doing it purposefully because no one can do a spelling mistake on a simple name like Zafar
They are very corrupted .
Ancaps: i see this as an absolute win
Polly Matter: Let's put India in the title
Views : It's free real-estate
yup lol we indians are really thirsty for anything good about india as all these news outlets lie
and create propaganda lol
@@toxicityuser propaganda exist in everything, even in education system
- a vivid consipary theorist (I'm just being sarcastic, don't freak out)
@@abisek.e7636 thank you for adding that in BRACKET words, i was about to educate you.
@@Shivamg415 lol these times people are not even knowing if someone is being sarcastic, that's why I put them on bracket, so for the people who didn't know
Indians need validation from foreigners in 2021. Indian Mind is still colonised af XD
I never imagined a foreigner making a video so accurate about my city. I moved to Gurgaon from Delhi and have to say I never want to go back, even though I love Delhi. The city has been changing rapidly, governance is fortunately improving but rather slowly, hopefully, it will one day be a globally recognised city due to it’s startup culture and immense wealth.
As much as I believe Gurgaon has immense potential and deserves proper development and a competent government so that it can become a innovation and corporate hub in North India.
The true reality is that other state governments are investing a lot of effort in their own IT Hubs.
Maharashtra already has Mumbai and Navi Mumbai, yet they are developing Pune. Telangana has Hyderabad which it is developing with all its might. Same with Bangalore in Karnataka. These cities are building extensive metro systems, ring road systems, elevated arterial traffic cooridoors. Building colleges and universities. Working on land-laws. There's dedicated effort towards developing them as IT Hubs and startup paradise.
Hell even cities like Coimbatore and Mysore are also seeing their own small IT booms!
Gurgaon's sheer existence is a product of Neglect. And Haryana government is busy with their own shenanigans.
I believe a city like Noida has struck a better balance between private and public development (although it has its own issues as well)
@@zhappy I agree, Noida has much better governance but because of the kind of jobs it created at the beginning it has a very different crowd. Gurgaon is for higher income jobs hence attracts luxury services like no other part of NCR.
@@zhappy what's wrong with noida ?
01:29 dude got the map wrong there , the westernmost state gujarat's some part is shown in green here but it's indian territory amd not even disputed.
This is a perfect city for Indian Batman
“As a man, I am flesh and blood, I can be ignored, I can be destroyed. But as a symbol… as a symbol I can be incorruptible. I can be everlasting. Just another night in Gurgaon.”
wait till you here about Dholera and GIFT City in the coming years.
@Sarthak Yadav hopefully
Its a govt-private patnership tho
They're both failures. Gift city has literally just 8 or 9 buildings and employ just about 10,000 people compared to a million promised.
@@edwardsnowden2313 It's not complete yet.
@@edwardsnowden2313 you can never call a city "complete" as its always a growing process. all you can ensure is provide basic infrastructure on an area and wait it out, it's really early to dismiss them as failure tbh. you gotta wait atleast till 2050 to pass any kind of judgment on them.
Lol at 4:07 I live in one of those apartments. Really weird to see my area pop up all of a sudden.
I had to go back to the time you mentioned to see where a random stranger on the internet lived.
Lol , gurugaon is a typical example of fail urban planning , they were so smart that they create the whole city and realise they forgot to put sewerage system
America: i am all about democracy and crony capitalism
India: hold my lassi!!
Lassi mixed with daru desi💀
@@akashbharadwaj02 desi daru bro
@@akashbharadwaj02 lmfaoooo
@@akashbharadwaj02 Bhaang would be better lol
Wait Gurgaon is privately owned?
All of it
Always has been
Same i just got to know
No it is not owned by a private entity but developed from scratch by private entity DLF It has gone bankrupt.
When you are an Indian but don't know you were living in a Privately owned City. I guess Capitalism is creeping into Life.
This city living cyberpunk a little more accurately than the rest of us.
I live in gurgaon and the government is present and dominant even though a lot of it is privately owned. And its true the city was built first and the facilities later and fr the police is small and the fire dept is expanding and getting better every day , its unreal how different 2 parts of the city can be. The state govt is now working hard to make the city better
Just found your channel, just wanted to say you're doing an awesome job!
the way he says vodaphone honestly makes me want to cry ;-;
Vaudaphone
@@vatsalyasharma5585 vadapao
@@drunkcat1713 lol
@@drunkcat1713 lmao
Literally
2:30 the car wasn't a failure, they just haven't made any car in the 11 years of development as they were looking for a joint venture with a foreign experienced manufacturer for the expertise, Sanjay Gandhi died in 1980 and in 1981, they struck a deal with Suzuki for a joint venture, and the Maruti Suzuki 800 and its iterations were the best selling car in India for 20 years starting 1985.
Maruti Suzuki was owned by Indian Government with a minority stake owned by Suzuki until 2003 when the government privatized the company and Suzuki bought the stake.
A thing I had read was that the prototypes and models before Suzuki came were pretty bad
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If they haven’t made any cars in 11 years, I’d say that’s a failure.
Not true Maruti and Toyota started in same year. One is worlds biggest manufacturer exporter and Titan and other a socialist failure that made few thousand cars a year until it was bought by Suzuki.
Polymatter is not well researched.
I've been living in Delhi who visits Gurgaon rather often and I had no idea. There was something strange about the city and all its insane high rise building and just a general lack of any proper drainage systems. I didn't know it was due to a lack of government.
Wouldn't the government of Haryana have jurisdiction over Gurgaon? This doesn't make sense.
EDIT: Upon research, I'm correct, Gurgaon does have a government that operates, it's more of them not doing much and privates going "I'll do it myself"
It's not a private city. There are still government structures. The same governments that gave these private companies the permission to build.
Rapid Metro is also no longer privately owned and operated as of 2021.
While the details are true, the thesis of Gurgaon being a private city with no government is just false and clickbait. It's not private owned, it's private built.
We have this in the US, it’s called Las Vegas(or paradise, technically)
And then you have “auroville” in south India that is the total opposite of this !
Dude thats an experimental township, with a population of about 3k
Jamshedpur is totally opposite too.
I live there and all you say is true. However, I would like to add that living in particular areas where bureaucrats have themselves taken up property is even more convenient for living as their water, sewage, electricity are all regularised. The one upside has been the real estate price spike that happened two decades ago for whoever bought at the time. Of course, sadly every day of living here you know if you were to try even on your own you would want to do a lot better in terms of building a modern, well-functioning city. Thanks for making this video.
But again, it's like its own island na? Like, as soon as you set out of that zone, it's a shithole again
Selfish bas___ds.
one of my uncles used to live there and would work in of the countless IT firms based there. We would visit often and he tried explaining this concept to me once, but he wasn't very good at explaining haha!
Libertarians: *Heavy breathing
1:23 Got to like the map of Arunachal Pradesh 👀
I travel a log specially in Gurgaon and still didn't know this 😂
Must be tiring carrying a log around all the time.
@@noahroth2992 I can imagine his hardship.
@@noahroth2992 😂😂
Please Use the correct map of India. Where is full Arunachal Pradesh?
First of all show Correct Map of *INDIA* where is half of ARUNACHAL PRADESH...(1:31).....😠😠😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡😡🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
This is a great video! I've always heard that Gurgaon is different from other cities but didn't exactly know how.
5:33
Everyone in the UK pronounces it with stress on the "a", not the "d". Vodaafone, not vod-afone
In India as well.
It was painful to hear that pronunciation. Lmao.
yeah same in india
1:03 Wow the cities were sponsored by Curiosity Stream and Nebula? Amazing
Hey, that’s just my average Cities: Skylines playthrough in a nutshell. Especially the sewer part.
Now hold up some of you might now know about gurugram and as an indian, let me enlighten you
1) Since 1982, and subsequently in 2005 and 2017, Fire protection has been left to the property itself. So much so, the law asks you make sure the water hose you'll provide to the firefighters reaches the top floor. Their firewater is only for extreme use. For all other cases, you must have a hose and a connection with atleast the story+2 head of water and 2280 LPM of water per floor.
2)About sewage, the law for the city (and most new private developments these days) dictated that sewage of individual building shall be provisioned by itself. By law, the sewage must be transported and sold to Delhi CETP or Yamuna Jal Board. Its a big poor country so there's lax enforcement.
3) The land yes is administered by a separate entity from rest of haryana that being separate Gurgaon HRERA but it is still in national framework and draws power from the same set of rules RERA has.
4) About private metro, the PPP system in india works like this. Suppose government needs a road built. It would build the road and then put a toll on it. What ours does is that it asks private companies that if you build this road under these parameters, what would be your toll value and for how many years would you accept it? After that point it becomes government property. Same for some Gurgaon roads but the leases are longer. Also, that private consortium failed BTW and that metro is govt property now (like it would have been after 35 years once government was done paying for it. The rapid metro was not allowed legally to turn profit)
5) We have all heard of company towns. Company buys land and then builds amenities on it. Like that texas starbase of spaceX for Elon. Imagine if Amazon bought the land next to it and converted into their campus for their Blue Space or whatever their space program is. Then Walmart set up land and office there. Then apple and so on. Here exactly that happened. Gurgaon was a village and each company brought separate land and developed it like a company towns. Too many company towns pulled in at once so it became a whole city.
6) About Air quality and drainage, exact same shit happens in delhi same time every year. Its the place as a whole and its setting. Its not that private utilities in delhi would fix the flooding or government utilities in gurgaon will fix its drainage.
Gurgaon has legal, political and assembly representation. It is connected by public transport (he conveniently didn't discuss buses here). It has a bus depot for Haryana Roadways (Public Utility Transport). It has a train station serviced by public utilities.
Simply you can imagine a very large field in the foothills of the mountain (aravali protection range is a notified are for gurgaon). Then imagine companies start buying Land packets on it. Since they all live together, it then becomes a city and then someone calls it a "private" city on youtube. Gurgaon is as much a city as Apple's cupertino campus. Since there literally was nothing developed in the area, the government told companies that bought the land to "fix ya own shit fam" and they actually did. Its not a private city. Its a collection of huge private properties.
I like polymatter videos. Especially ones he do on Singapore but seeing his limited scope of study on this video and the far reaching conclusions he's drawing from them, I am a bit skeptic now as earlier, I used to preach his singapore series like a gospel.
For anyone who thinks why I wasted my time writing this, let me save you the comments. I have no friends right now to talk. No activities to do. I eat, do cardio, work and sleep and I couldn't do my cardio as it was raining outside so I am pissed and I saw this video so I decided to write all this. Fam my life already shit, don't rag on me anymore. Save ya clicks. Imma touch some grass tomorrow.
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I've never heard Vodafone pronounced like that
I've never been to Gurgaon , But now I'll go informed.
"Not to mention rampant corruption"
I'm not even suprised I expected to hear that.
as a resident of gurgaon thanks for making this video
Me too
🔸SERCH ADITYA RATHORE-HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE POLYMATTER
Are you Norris fan?
@@anuragbhattacharjee6553 yes
This guy's videos are the most quality content in TH-cam period!
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As a person living in Gurgaon, it’s now called Gurugram, I think this is 90% accurate. The government sold most of the land to private companies to come up with residential and commercial properties. The transportation is semi private including the metros and roads. But the government still has a big role in the railways, water and electricity supply. The police is around and everything is handled by the government passively.
I really like that you got someone to record your own footage.
You missed Jamshedpur terribly 🤦. The city owned and operated by Tata Group. Population 1.6 million.
And that city performs great. Even people protested against creating a municipal corporation.
@@ankanmaiti9864 ikr
My GF lives there and She says it's the best place to live in India
I thought thats what the video was about to be about. Still learned a few things about gurgaon that I didn't know before
This sounds like a Well There's Your Problem episode waiting to happen.
have been working in Gurgaon for the last 4 years, and suddenly a random TH-cam video tells me that its a privately owned city...mind blown
Fascinating. Thank you for this.
Waiting for them to change the name as "Night City".
रात का शहर
Vodafone just bought a metro station as if they were playing monopoly 🤣
Lawless massacres
Funfact: Entering DLF Cybercity is easy. Getting out requires you an IQ of 1000.
Just curious and please tell me if you can , why the hell will I need that much IQ to get out of there😅
That's convenient , "come to ot Gurgaon, it's way easier to pay bribes here".
I live in India and didn’t know this, I knew something was special but nothing more
Babe wake up! Polymatter uploaded
My father works in gurgaon(Gurugram) for 10years now. I still feel it has better infrastucture than rest of India without a government.
@indian weeb desu he is hp laptop distributer. Employees work under wealthy private companies.
Problem is good infrastructure if you dont look outside the walls
You didnt visit big cities in south and west far better than Gurugao.
Unlike gurgao which doesnt receives migrants as much as Hyderabad, Banglore delhi its still worse developed
the problem is i can still see slums behind these tall rises
There is no public transport
@@metagde6402 still better than most Indian cities . I mean there is a reason why people are migrating to gurgaon and not chakulia
I'd be interested in more videos on private cities.
The happiest part of my month is when i see a polymatter video
USA: WE R THE MOST CAPITALIST COUNTRY
INDIA: HOLD MY CHAI
We're barely capitalist
Only gurgaon, jamshedpur and Noida are capitalist cities.
All other cities are mixture of capitalism and socialism ( largely socialist).
Infact, even china is more capitalist than India. Let alone US.
In China even train stations and train sets are owned by private companies.
But in India whole railway system is owned by government.
@@nischaymiglani2617 but good progress for capitalism
USA is far more capitalist, india still has too much socialism.
@anonymous D PPP - Public Private Partnership model.
Through PPP, their government had leased out railway stations to private companies.
And trainsets are operated and owned by private companies.
And it's not a short portion.
It's a very big portion which covered all big and medium sized cities of china.
Thanks for throwing light on this topic 🙏
There are over 20000 Koreans and Japanese in india, and 90% of them live in Gurgaon