Why So Many Chinese Students Come to America
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To sum up and save you 13 min, 1st reason, kids in china want a less competitive way to get good education, 2nd reason: US schools after 2008 need make more $$$
Good sum up
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@@bigbrothersinnerparty297 you are 50 cents China army .
The Chinese come to America because they don't have access to 2 months of free Skillshare.
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i`m chinese so i can say it was truth
I was 17 when I moved to the US from South America. Where I'm from people taunt the education system in the US by saying things like "it's too easy" or "Americans are dumb." I'm ashamed to say I was one of them. When I started my studies my grades plummeted. The system is different by placing less emphasis on heavy testing and more on homework, participation and projects. Americans value creativity, not simply memorizing facts or equations. Now that I'm accustomed my grades stabilized and feel that I am more independent and able to think outside the box. I value the ability to use my knowledge and look down on memorization. Now that I've seen both sides, I believe the education system in the US far better than my home country. I would love, however, to hear if someone's experience was the opposite, spending years in both systems and coming out believing the education system in the US is worse, and why that is.
@@davidspader4228 no but ok lmao
Same experience, not from South America though, from Kenya in East Africa.
I had no idea our education system was so valuable, or the other ones outside of the U.S are just bad.
@@ashtonhashbrown6155 Well college is very overpriced. Where I'm from college is around 8-10k a year but it is strictly academic. It isn't that universities in the US are good and elsewhere are bad, in my opinion. I think universities in the US have room for creativity and rewarding hard work more than some other countries. In my opinion It is very expensive here, though.
@@fernandomaluenda4226 agreed.
My brother spent 6 years learning to be a Dentist. He told me once that the first 4 years was all theory and the Chinese and Indian students were always at the top off the class. The last 2 years was all focused on practical work on real patients. Most of the Chinese/Indian students struggled and lost confidence, the other students excelled.
Exactly, I’m Chinese and the only good thing is our brain
@@justindai9742 And food : )
@@Minchya yess agree
6 years only? In the US, dentists spent 8 years total in schooling. Some also comeplete an optional residency.
@@lexismith8206 Maybe hours per week or semester are different ?
"Good grades = good university = good job = good life"
says every Chinese parent ever
and everywhere
Jeremy Chen every parent says that
@@unlockedaccount yeah but a lot (not all) of us Americans don't have the same work ethic
@Snow 123 many reasons ....we stress different things. Aka sports over education or money or fame over values. Many things that could be subjective
I’m Indian and tbh we stress over ela more than anything else math will always stay sane but not language
"all the sudden, chinese students in america suddenly EXPLODED"
me in my lecture sitting next to chinese student: *eyes nervously*
r u n
lol
Lmao
Allahu Akbar
Real fucking original
We had this kid from Africa who came into our school as a freshman, the same year he was bumped up to a sophomore, which was the grade I was in at the time. He graduated with us as well, he was the smartest kid I ever met and really down to earth.
@Charmaine Olac he was from Kenya
That sort of stuff makes sense though. If a student is moving cross country and already knows the language, chances are he's from a wealthy family who can afford to get him tutors or extra schooling prior to the move. My Thai family members often got sent out of country for schooling but they'd gone to private schools and went to after school tutors prior to the move so they were already extremely well educated and spoke 2 or 3 languages before showing up in the new country. A few went to America and 1 went to South Korea so they all spoke fluent Thai and English and the one who went to South Korea learned Korean as well, and most spoke a little Japanese and Cambodian too. Usually if a student moves to a new country they're already in the top 10%, 5%, or higher of their national average. The kid who moves from Vietnam to America is going to be top tier, not average.
The smartest people I ever met were native African. There's a lot of education and creativity there, it just needs a better governance environment to take advantage of those skills before those folks develop the opportunity and commitment to emigrate.
@@doujinflip that's what's kept Africa, India, and a few other regions rather weak. People get educated and the first thing they do is try to move. America, despite its flaws, has always been a global innovator not so much because it's the best educated but because its amazing and drawing in those who are. Some of the smartest people in the world move there and since they have some of the best schools and a melting pot society built on integration once people go to school in america they often end up working for american companies either back in their home country or they move there permanently. The UK is fairly similar in the regard.
Meanwhile in many African countries corruption and poor governance often leads to people looking for better shores even if they're well educated and/or wealthy, and the endless brain drain really affects the countries. Colonialism did a ton of damage to many african nations but after the end of imperial rule many of the well educated natives still left for their colonizers or for thriving economies like America, sometimes due ethnic/religious tensions, war, or just hating the way their countries were run. This trend is starting to reverse a bit but hasn't stopped either.
@@doujinflip that must be why they are more innovative than North Americans, Europeans and Australians, eh?
Rip chinese students who have it so hard overseas. Makes me grateful that school is much easier and allows me to have lots of personal time. At my highschool even in all advanced classes it isnt very hard, im not even really smart, just decent at paying attention and a decent work ethic.
American high schools want to develop you as a person. College is when it gets very academically rigorous.
@@bellgrand That is true. Some colleges are more academically rigorous than others, but most place an emphasis on creativity and application rather than raw knowledge.
Lol, you’re grateful but don’t see that in the future with less jobs, Americans will lose out .
Chinese students studying in USA, Canada, UK and Australia are from family members belonging to Chinese Communist Party. These CCP families send their children to Western countries because do not have any confidence nor trust in the 3rd world, poor corrupt and incompetent Chinese Universities. Only ordinary poor Chinese families send their children to backward, poor, third world Chinese universities for education.
Some people enjoy that pressure but definitely majority are forced to do
I swear a third of my high school is chinese exchange students. They all drive 200,000 dollar cars
Where the hell do you go to school
Do you live in a rich city
@@anthonybrowning5686 vancouver probably.
Which is a good thing for the economy 🤷🏻♂️
who care it not thier anyhow...
When I was 17 I always failed my maths tests in China high school.. when I went to the UK, I even got to top 2 in my second year university maths exam. I was so surprised.
OK, "Vincent". What's wrong with the name your parents gave you?
@@nelsonricardo3729 nothing wrong. I do this to look after those who can't pronounce. Just a nice thing I do for the proud people who don't understand why other nations dont speak English.
Vincent Z lmao good one my friend
Vincent Z Damnnnn sonn, someone call the fire department!
Nelson Ricardo the Indian kids in my school do the same thing Vincent does bc no one can pronounce them correctly
On a somewhat unrelated note, a moderately wealthy familiy that sends a child or more to a foreign university provides a them with a good education, but also an opportunity to quietly move some of their wealth out of China. The family is thus able to spread out its eggs in multiple baskets. Money in the US can easily be invested and out of the reach of the Chinese government.
Right, education expenses are exempt from the $50k/year foreign exchange limit, so things like rent for a student's private room in an expensive apartment near campus (which they're really sharing and pocketing the difference) aren't counted in the annual cap.
Until very recently I was a math professor at a community college that has a lot of Chinese students (Santa Barbara City College). I asked a few of them how they ended up at a community college in the US, even a very good one like SBCC. They had a few answers for me. I have no idea if these are true or not, but it's what they told me. It's also possible that these are only true in some places and not others, as I had students from Beijing, Guangzhou, Hong Kong, and several other places _(some of them couldn't even understand each others' Chinese)._
(a) It's very hard to get into a good Chinese college, and the 2nd tier colleges don't lead to good jobs.
(b) Once you get into college, the education isn't actually that good. Everybody passes and you don't learn much. Their high schools are stronger than ours but their colleges are not.
(c) If you're not from a family in high standing you're probably screwed. You're better off moving somewhere else, like the US.
(d) The Chinese government has agreements with some colleges that the government will pay their tuition. I imagine it's mostly universities, but apparently even a high-end junior college like SBCC could qualify. If you're from Beijing and you don't like the cold, coming to SBCC is probably like attending college in Hawaii. You can even see the marina from the building I taught in.
I also found a surprisingly huge amount of cheating among my Chinese students. I always assumed that the Chinese reverence for education would make that unlikely, but a really high proportion of my Chinese students cheated in a variety of ways, some of them quite creative. It was almost always the students who were reluctant to talk to me, too. This is just a guess, but it seemed like many of my Chinese students were intimidated and unwilling to ask questions or ask for help, but they felt like they had to pass so they would resort to cheating. A lot of them also came from very rich families, so the pressure to succeed might have been quite high, especially in a math class. Also their student visa gets revoked if their grades slip too far _(and the threshold is pretty high - more than one student told me their visa would be revoked if they got a C in my class)._ It probably didn't help that I taught a lot of statistics, which includes quite a bit of reading paragraph-long problems and absolutely no solving for x. If you are bad at English statistics can be quite hard, and a lot of my Chinese students _(and East Asian students in general)_ had pretty weak English skills _(not the Singaporeans though; I only had 4 Singaporean students I can recall but they all had perfect English. Like, better than most Americans perfect and almost no accent)._
I should also note that some of my absolute best _(and favorite)_ students were from China. My Chinese students who took their educations seriously were awesome - disciplined, hard working, insightful - everything a teacher could ever want in a student. But that was true of my students from Mozambique, South Korea, Mexico, The Netherlands, Ukraine, the USA, and every other country*. Nothing will get rid of preconceptions about people from a particular country faster than meeting a bunch of people from that country and finding out they're pretty much like people from other countries with a few differences in upbringing and language.
*: I now realize that I wish I had made a map of all the places my students came from. I taught there for 15 years and it's a very international school; I probably taught students from at least 50 different countries, including Kazakhstan _(only one student in 15 years, but she was awesome),_ Congo _(a brother and sister fleeing civil war. Two of the nicest people I've ever met),_ Zimbabwe _(she wanted to be an economist so she could help her country prevent future monetary disasters),_ Azerbaijan _(I think she was a model; she certainly looked the part and would show up to school every day in a very tight cocktail dress with full makeup, a glitzy handbag, and high heels. For a midday class. She was a super hard worker and very intense),_ Myanmar _(in April 2020 she had to move back home and take my 5 - 7 pm class at 2 - 4 am her time, but she handled it well; she just got up in the middle of the night and came to Zoom class in PJs, then went back to bed)_ and lots of others. It would have been a nice way to remember more of them.
Oddly enough, though I've taught at four colleges/universities, none of them had many international students. I've always wondered why. There must be a certain set of American universities which are known in China.
I've had one student from Guangzhou. One. Ha!
Compare this to the UK where i did my postdocs... Almost every university has many Chinese students, no matter what variety of university: Oxbridge, red brick or grey brick. (Actually, i think there are fewer at Oxbridge but that's likely due to the admissions committees)
@@RobespierreThePoof How was the weather at your colleges? It's super nice in Santa Barbara, and several of my students told me they came specifically for that. We also had a ton of Swedes, as their government would also pay our tuition and moving from Sweden to southern California must be pretty sweet. Not nearly as many Norwegians or Danes or Finns, but I think we only had agreements with Sweden and China. The other Europeans got a little annoyed by the huge number of Swedes because everyone just assumed every non-British Euro was Swedish :-)
more connection, more peaceful🎉.
information enough
The Indian, the Vietnamese, the Philippine students also want to study in the US too not just the Chinese but the difference is they don't have money.
the ones that do manage to go to the US for study are pretty well-off too.
There are lots of Indian students studying in China for medicine and engineering now. Well studying in the US is just... expensive. China is pretty good at engineering tho.
They do have money. studying in the US costs a lot
I've seen a lot of rich Indians getting out of their county and studying in First World Countries. For a country that has a weaker currency against the other countries with advanced economies, the Indians surely do have a lot of money to spend.
I'm a Vietnamese. Well, Georgia tuition fee is 3k3/ semester. This is expensive.
I teach English in China, and frankly I feel sorry for these kids and their stressful environment. Their childhoods are sacrificed to squeeze in an extra two hours a day of extracurricular classes, all so they can compete with each other for a somewhat decent salary at a job they have little/no passion for. While they take care of their aging parents, spouse, and young children they barely have time to see.
Bla bla bla.. i love living like that. I mean i'm chinese decent but not live in china. We doing that for our future and for our children so they can hv better future. In fact most of us in here, become middle class or the rich because we study 24 x 7. And most of 1% in my country are chinese decent because we sacrificed our life for better future. We will enjoying our life in 40 until die when the others still strugling because they enjoying their life in the young age. We become the rich because we study hard and work smart and hard. It's our right, don't feel sorry about that and don't change it. Thanks :)
I an a chinese descendent too, however I beg to differ with this idea that after 40 you are free. I have seen myself that alot of people both in china and the western world that still work rather than living the life. For example my dad, he makes MRI, graduated from a university 40 years ago when it was still rare and is still working.
It is because the gap from poor to rich is still open, shrinking but still open, unlike developed societies. The time when China becomes a developed country, things will slow down.
englisch teacher in asia...not the most qualified profession to talk about china tbh
@@daeding5343 Enjoying your life as a young child is much more valuable than when you're 40
Imagine showing up at your dorm as a freshman and your roommate is Xi Jinping's daughter
I am sure she gets her own private house with security
@@Tommykey07 And ,her Father also paid a Donation of 100 Million USD to the Harvard University
You would never know, they all use pseudonyms and fake families
sounds like a plot for a manga
You got it made.
Having taught English and a few courses in American History, Culture, etc. in China for several years, i found that it was impossible to avoid conflict with the regular teachers for trying to be innovative in class or to expect students to do more original work. The idea of the student doing about two thirds of the work and the teacher acting mostly as facilitator and adviser was strange to them. Foreign teachers were not allowed to establish their own grading standards or to design their course content around the skill levels or abilities of individual students or classes. Chinese teachers would ask for our suggestions, finally ignoring our recommendations, and then turn around at the end of semester and make demands for "passing" almost every student, even the ones who never did any work at all in class. i spent most of my free time with a few serious students who were preparing for the Big Exam, and i would test them for comprehension in their subject area and give them pointers and tips about how to "read" the exam, or encourage them to strike out on their own and try new things. The Chinese classrooms really are nothing but long, boring lectures and quiet students taking notes. The saddest thing to see were students who were afraid to ask questions in class, or who would "lose face" by not always having the right answers. It made me want to cry on a few occasions. The better students wanted more than anything to experience the sort of unpredictable, project-oriented, and creative classroom that many foreign teachers wished to give to them. I loved most of it, though.
Therein lies the difference between rote memorization education and one where critical thinking is always encouraged as we do here.
Great insight. Thanks for sharing your experience 👏👏
It's all about different priorities. In many countries they prioritize rote learning (memorizing facts) and "hard sciences" like math while also prioritizing your test taking abilities. In the US there's more focus on creative problem solving, free thinking, and a focus on how different subjects are connected. That's one of the reasons that Americans still perform well in workplaces and innovate so much yet still score low on tests compared to countries like China or Japan. Some countries focus a little too hard on tests and it can turn students into very smart calculators and memory banks, and they'll score great on a test but if you give them a real world problem they may only solve the problem at an average level.
We see this sort of thing in military history and in military's today, countries with rote learning and strict hierarchy can get hampered by it. When faced with a problem the officers will perform by the book even if things dont work out well that way. They may even keep performing the same solution over and over even if it's not efficient. The US meanwhile will break "protocol" and try to figure out a creative solution and may even throw the book out. During joint operations many strict nations like Japan will often note how often the Americans simply ignore their own protocols but still perform well. As a Nazi general once said that "war is chaos and the American army practices chaos on a daily basis" while the Soviets described Americans as "we cant plan against US strategy as the Americans feel no need to read their manuals or follow their own doctrine".
The US has a tendency to teach broad learning, teach them a good base of knowledge, and then teach creative problem solving so that you can train someone up and then set them loose to create their own solutions. More strict nations meanwhile will have people memorize facts and rules and teach them to follow guidelines. Both systems can work well, Japan and America have wildly different teaching strategies but both have thriving economies but Japan performs far better in tests while Americans still innovate on an astonishing scale.
@@arthas640 haha, hearing the purported quotes from the German and Soviet officers makes me so happy for some reason. maybe, despite all its problems, deep down i still love this weird ass country
@@linkly9272 america has some weird hidden strengths and one of them is thriving on chaos.
When it comes to the military america is a bit weird. Most countries were either modern european (or European influenced) militaries who focused mainly on large armies in set piece battles, they were large rabbles like China, or they were rural spread out countries that used smaller more independent units. The US was a bit weird in that it was a large european style military power who spent much of their history fight along a massive frontier fighting low intensity conflicts against natives and smaller powers like Mexico spread across an entire continent. This lead to american officers being given more latitude and independence and a strong reliance on NCOs and lower level officers. This came in really handy in both world wars when american officers didn't have to worry about micromanaging tiny details and could lay out a set of goals and a rough plan and they could rely on their NCOs to adapt and over come.
Controlled chaos.
Imagine smurfing in real-life schools lmao
my gpa was a measly 5.5 cause my friends didnt wanna study eith me so i couldnt conveniently cheat off them so i found new friends at a new school in a new country in a new continent and now im in harvard
Bro chill its siege, School is Siege 😳 Alot of Smurfs out here in Gold 😃
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I'm actually doing that :D
@@user-wh9rj7ll8z really are you in Harvard?
12:05 Did that chart just say the U.S. has 181 universities in the top 100 universities list?
Fox news: anyone that says America doesn't have 181 universities in the top 100 hates America
There are ties dude
@@bo5132 A lot of ties apparently.
yeah. It's our public k-12 education thats ass.
I think it should be top 300 or 500 list?
Hard subjects, hard maths, hard science DO NOT equal success in life. A lot of Asian kids struggled with networking, communication, conveying ideas and being creative because of the way their education has forced them to become machines. I always thought Asian kids were superior but I was wrong on so many levels when I came to the UK. Sure, I excelled at school (I was excelled at work back home too) but yet I always felt so behind other western students when it comes to being active, being creative, being mature. They were excellent at it, and was NOT bad at schoolwork either. So all in all, I am the one who's less educated while my peers are much more well-rounded! Real-life works require collaboration and we Asian kids didn't get taught that, and so we suck at it. There's nothing to be proud of that.
12:03 America's so good it has 181 universities in the top 100
🇱🇷God bless the USA🇲🇾
Yeah US got hella good Universities.
Simultaneously being the best at everything and being worse at everything is litterally a national identity for the US lmfao.
The flag on the left is Puerto Rican if I’m not mistaken and the flag on the right is definitely Malaysian lol.
@@iamdoor2561 Liberian - which makes sense! They were colonized by us
@@Shovlaxnet But I would not be ignoring that Malaysian flag anytime though...
Damn didnt expect to see Malaysia here as a Malaysian, I wanna leave this shit hole country as soon a possible
They go to America Because they don't have to always use a VPN to access TH-cam.
...like one you can get by signing up for NordVPN
Oh wait, wrong sponsor
Justin Joy I am using Peking University wifi with VPN to watch TH-cam Right now.
d0fabur5st it was nice knowing you. Jk 😬
Don't worr, we don't give shie about yt.
This is a joke, don't take it seriously, LOL
To flex their Gucci sneakers and park their Maseratis on the street between a prius and civic
Fat their shit is fake
That’s true. But ur kinda salty
@@georgezeng1327 salty? no, that kind of spending for someone who has not done shit in their life is vulgar. money doesn't buy you class, no matter how hard you try.
God lmao yeah
@@neogenzim1995 there was that one Asian guy crashed McLaren 720s into Audi R8... and he ran off. A hit and run.
I went to school in Thailand till I was 9 and then I came to US. When I got here, I was ahead of other students (in math at least) , they were still doing the multiplication test every week and I was always the first one to finish first. Which was surprising cause I was one of the last person to memorize the multiplication table in Thailand. Anyways, I just wanted to say that sometimes I wish I still live in Asia so I’m pressured to study hard. I just want to be smart 😭
US education below the college level is horrific. It is underfunded and censored by the political police in the community. You have to go to a rich suburb in America to get a good high school education. They teach at the college prep level. When the schools were filled after WW II the US was wealthy and state revenues were increasing every year. My generation had very good, well funded schools. After 1980 the states started to rein in costs and class sizes started to increase. By now the public school system is a skeleton of its former self.
that's funny b/c American Asian and white kids beat every single nation on Earth except 6 in the 2018 International PISA exam in reading, math, science.
i think it really depends on where you are, some schools in my district are the most toxic places ever & everyone will look down on you for not taking 15 APs and having a 4.0 while being the founder of 3 nonprofits or win prestigious national awards 💔💔 our education system is hella easy from elementary through middle, but in high school it suddenly covers half your college courses LMAO
It is very important that people from both countries to learn from each other. That builds understanding and easier negotiation. These two cultures really need to influence each other.
Ya I agree a bit, I think honestly, from observation, there is a lack of knowledge amongst Americans, I don’t think it necessarily needs to get stricter, but rather a more efficient style of teaching needs to be put in place, whatever that is, Chinese tend to be better at math and science, however their style of education is much too strict. School is important, but it’s not the only important thing in life
@@thetiredworm2100 Really I think the issue is that the level of teaching/curriculum level seems to shift slightly from one state to the next. For example, I grew up in a Eastern state. The curriculum in such state, when studying history at least, deals with global studies and introspective studies (US soley). Nevertheless, in other Southern and Western states, there is alot of information that us stretched out, so they learn and have the ability to retain less information about foreign entities.
Yes, sure after studying for 2 years in US all my social accounts in China were banned due to “illegal political propagation” when I tried to defend my Taiwan friends from insults from mainland China. I said “living in Taiwan does not mean he is a traitor”, and got reported and permly banned. Now there is full bs about US and other countries on all Chinese social media and the gov just let them grow. I have to say at least 90% people in China think the villain US is bullying China and never want to know about the world other than China. CCP is manipulating all things in China, they don’t give you a chance to talk freely, they mute anyone if they perform a little difference from what they called the mainline moral which is made by themselves.
The problem is the CPC deems American culture as fundamentally threatening, and actively discourages the Chinese people from seeing and absorbing Western media without the Party's commentary on how inferior and imposing the foreigners are.
The US by contrast has always been open, or at least never closed off; Even before the lifting of racial immigration quotas there have been active and vibrant Chinatowns since before the Civil War. Nowadays it's a near everyday instance to interact with Chinese people, but usually it's those who read traditional script and speak Cantonese/Minnan/Taiwanese Mandarin -- with modern Mainlanders takes a lot more effort to get to the individual underneath and expand more than what we can simply see by ourselves on CGTN or People's Daily.
chinese nationals study in the US so that they can drop a few spies into US institutions
I'm really glad western countries are more chill when it comes to the pace of education.
You know, actually let kids be kids.
China treats their children like investments.
But sometimes TOO CHILL. I had a teacher in college in New Jersey that was so bad half the class left and never returned the next week!
Being too chill could be also a problem when you think about flat-Earthers and anti-vaccers
@@bloodmure1 Please. You have any idea how many crazy and uneducated people there are in China?
@@bloodmure1 whole america ain't like that buddy
In Australia, New Zealand and the UK , Chinese students are the overwhelming majority of international students
Yes same with Canada.
Gabriel probably couldn’t get to good uni himself and has low income
@Gabriel They cheat, have bad morals and behavior and often don't speak good English and disrupt the classes.
@@GoogleAccount-qr6ox u must be at a shi ty uni thats y u see these kinds of students
And spies
English in America is very difficult, especially on standarized testing.
LOL if only you knew about English Exams here in Australia
Same, I am an international student, and when I did the US SAT, I remember all of us in my high school in Kenya, we had amazing scores in Math but very poor in English, yet most American students were very good in English but not so good at Math, maybe it's because Math is more of Rote memory while English demands creativity and self-expression. Most international students aren't good at that. Like the education system of my country is all about cramming and passing exams, while I see US students create stuff and innovate, I admire the US model
while filipinos find it very easy lol
@Google Chat Moderator I have never seen a place where swear words were allowed in tests.
@Google Chat Moderator yes
Very main difference is
Asian education system: Theory Theory and Theory (make them memorize),
European Education system: Treat them as human not as robots.
Europe can do this because they don't have to deal with literal billions of people competing for few jobs. In that way, Europe (and to an extent, North America), is privileged. When you have to filter the talents/competencies of billions, then rote memorization is the fastest and most efficient way to run the filter as quickly as possible. European/American education emphasizes independence, which I would argue is more important than mindless memorization for modern companies, but that is incredibly slow and carries an inherent risk of not having much educational oversight.
bruh that's literally how china and singapore got very successful idiot
It’s the US not europe
@@sampleentry5253 there is no authority that creates jobs based on how much you got from rote memorizing. Its based on entreprenuership and start-ups. Doesn't matter if you have gotten 99.9% in college, if there's no one to hire you, there's no one to hire you. Europe is 'privileged' cause it dedicates a lot of school/college time for making a good entreprenuer. India/China on the other hand don't, which is what creates limited jobs. You need to have experience, know what you're doing and most importantly, have a good enough passion to learn something, to get a job, or maybe even to make a startup to make more jobs. The rigid system of rote memorization will *never* create more jobs than there already are, and due to a broken economic system and corruption, many of these asian startups will have fierce competition by already well off companies paying bribes to eliminate said competition. Unless there's a good environment and good education system for startups, you're rarely going to see many. And by extension the job pool is further going to be limited
181 of the top 100 Universities?.... I GUESS THEY'RE JUST THAT GOOD
There are ties between universities
good at that PR marketing it seems
adamklam1 it’s a typo in the video, it’s actually top 750 universities
thank god I moved over seas when I was young. My cousins all have white hairs from the stress in their 20's (no JOKE!)
grey hair lol
@@andyl3655 actually more like pure white :)
@@ninalym6328 racist
@@ThePortraitArtUnravel:*intensifies
But memes aside woah
Maybe something to do with gene?
Dude, your vids are really good man …
Keep it up !
This makes me very thankful to live in America where I don’t even have to take a standardized test to get into a college. I always complain about school but watching videos like this makes me appreciate my school more.
as a mom with 2 boys, we consider international study as a way to eacape the heavy learning for my boys. as it is too much competitive, not necessary at all. but we have too many people, resources are limited.
and we have money . so it is not a problem.
Wow. Good for you
Tong Su i am in China,the education is .... my n big boy needs to study 13 hours a day, horrible.and I am master of education from top normal university, the current is too much competitive
funky you
Good on you for keeping open to the multitude of paths for education. For some people the intensity can be a benefit, for many it is not. The diversity of learners and their needs doesn't sound very well tailored with the system described in this video. I completely agree that degree of intensity is not necessary many education systems produce successful members of society with high degree of fulfillment without high intensity studies.
@UCdW_3vGXmyAte6behvq2X7A lol look at this chinese trying to say fuck you
They come to flex on us broke students with their Mercedes, Audis and Beamers
Chinese student lands:
Smoke purpp in chinese: *I dont want friends I want audis*
Im flexing with a camry.
@@hamad-pz3rp I drive a Camry even that's impossible lol
Well, one Chinese guy in my company who has a work VISA does, in fact, own a Mercedes. I am a Chinese American but I only have a used Volkswagen. Where is my Mercedes?
@@apophis8118 LUL great smokepurpp reference
One of my best friends was a Chinese foreign exchange student and all of this said seemed true. At the end, i think the university really screwed my friend with high debt and at the end the job prospects did not seem great.
Great video. Really well informed.
So true, I came to Australia for elite private high school because I only scored 380/780 in my middle school exam. Lol
Have you become an elite yet?
Guangkai Ren Luckily Yes.
At what city are you studying?
Guangkai Ren his father is really fucking rich
哈哈哈，真实~
This is the true problem of standardized testing. If the test can be learned or gamed, money and wealth will always have an advantage.
explain how please; somebody will probably come across this comment, disagree with it and make an annoying rant
I do not claim to be an expert, but I'll still have a crack at it:
Basically, wealthier families have better access to teachers/institutions who understand the inner workings of the test mechanisms, thus having a "game plan" to ace through said mechanisms. Think of it as "buying a cheat sheet/armor set/weapon set/whatever you call it for defeating the most difficult boss in the game."
Also they literally get someone to take the test for them
I think u got it totally reversed. When there is no standardized testing, therefore when college admission are subjective and are not based on some strict requirements, money and wealth will always have an even bigger advantage. Chinese college admission is 10 times more fair than the U.S, which doesn’t mean it’s good for everyone, but it’s definitely more fair
Mimi Lee don’t you realize without standardized testing this is even worse?
I'm a Software Engineer, born in South America. I lead a team of engineers in a U.S. based company. In our team we have American, Chinese, Mexican, and Australian nationals.
I love working with Chinese people because they do everything I tell them just like I tell them, nice and fast! They work on weekends without being asked. They are very smart.
Americans have advanced social skills. They will tell you when they disagree with you. They are easy to exchange ideas with.They have really good organizational skills. They are also very smart.
I know you cannot generalize. This is simply a recount of my experience.
I think we greatly benefit from this diversity.
there are few things funnier to me than ANYONE thinking that there aren't incredibly smart/talented students from every major country.
not that you insinuated this at all, Jean, but for everyone else: there are incredible talents from EVERYWHERE. there is no "best place" or "smartest place". i've seen the smartest motherfuckers from Spain, China, India, Pakistan, Syria, England, Ireland, Belgium, Mexico, the US, etc etc etc
I’m from the UK and a lot of foreign Chinese students attend our universities as well.
Nobody noticed that in China you will need to have a freaking library on your desk during class lol
Thats because Chinese high school does not have lockers. So students have to keep everyone to their desk.
@@bilibiliism No, we have 2-layer lockers, but still not enough. The books on our desks are 'cached' that you will use in the week, before or after. Maybe just in a day. You switch between 6 subjects(Chinese Language, math, foreign language(mostly English), plus 3 subjects.)Each has 6 to 8 coursebooks, and 6-8 exercise books, and your notebooks(usually 1-2 per subject), and examination paper(for daily exercise or homework). So what you see is just a small segment of their cached learning materials.
that’s because Chinese actually study. They go to school mon-sat and have many hours of homework every day.
@@RuthCuadrado you mean memorize. They only study for exam. After exam is done then they slack off. The knowledge they get will be wasted when they are working. Not so good
Evan Kurniawan Don’t we all?
LOL. “The most important 9 hours of your life”. In my opinion, the function of Gao Kao was overestimated and gradually lose its popularity. However, it's still "The most important 9 hours of the life of poor families" in the foreseeable future.
By “poor families” you mean any family that couldn’t find a back door to problems in life (and oh there are so many such problems living in China), or don’t have some high and mighty friends in the regime. There are plenty of families like that, that are not actually poor.
@@fredericren5116 Sure rich and well established families could have access to better resources and backdoors, but at the end of the day, the fact remains that if your GaoKao score is high enough, there is nothing stopping you from going to a good college. This may not be the best system, but it’s better than many other countries. There are bucket loads of students in top colleges in China that comes from families poorer than you could possibly imagine. If corruption and inequality is what you’re arguing for, I would I argue you could apply your logic to every single step of the US college application process. You will do better in AP exams, SAT/ACT, extracurriculars, GPA, and college application essays as long as your family has enough money, this is pretty much as a commonly known fact at this point. No system is perfect, pick the best one if you can and work hard in it.
@@Sandman-ge8jz “Poorer than I could possibly imagine”, did you just challenge my imagination? 😂 I don’t know about you but I was actually born and raised in china, and I know how extremely rich people can get in the major cities and within the CCP regime, and also how extremely poor people can get in remote villages. I have also personally gone through both the Chinese and North American admission processes, and have a pretty personal experience about how fair each system is. The point is not about whether the NA system is perfectly clean, the point is about the Chinese admission system being much more corrupt (much like many other aspect of china, filled with corruption), and much more oppressive to students because the only thing it looks at is ONE score, not just for college, but also for high school and even middle school admissions. And guess which one is easier, to manipulate that ONE score VS manipulating your SAT + GPA + Application letters? The answer is THE FORMER 😂 Did you also say “nothing stop you from going to a good school if your score is high enough in china”? Do you actually know that “for a fact”? 😂 Did you know when applying for the same “good school”, students from different parts of china are subject to different score cutoffs? Or they have the same score requirement but actually do different exams? So your “good enough” score may not be good enough for the buddy in another province. This is just systemic discrimination and oppression, not even counting rich people cheating. Be careful when you use the word “fact” because it usually makes you sound ignorant 😂
@@Sandman-ge8jz 哈哈哈都是中国人就别装外宾了
@@junmingpu9201 I'm guessing that they're "pretending to be foreign" so English speakers can understand what they wrote to each other
Can we appreciate that Singapore is top on all these lists
I am Chinese and I come to the US to study because I love American culture and environment.And I want to experience different things and meet more diverse interesting people, and I have an American dream.❤
How's the neighborhood safety there? I am asking cuz I'd like to study in the US one day too, but the robbery and shootings I saw on the internet is horrible and terrifying
You are welcome 👍
Polymatter and China, still a better love story than Twilight!
Akshat Jain right
😭
Anything is.
@@harshshitole6293
I am sorry but is your surname really shitole?
And the third wheel: Apple
As a Chinese student come to study in US.
The main reason I think for most Chinese students to come are:
1> Affordable: Middle class is growing fast, average $35,000/year cost in US univerisities is not a problem for many Chinese families
2> Competition: In China, to get into top 100 universities, your GAOKAO score has to be at top 3%. Or you can say acceptance rate for top 100 universities is 3%, while in US, top 100 university acceptance rate is 66%, and the international ranking is much higher.
3> Reputation: 10 years ago, not many Chinese students studied abroad, overall those students are more welcomed in big companies and are paid higher. Now it's a different story unless you graduated from top famous universities.
and it isn't limited to American universities really.
@@maxidumyang5102 Then how the hell they live in cities like Shenzhen which literally says education as a way to succeed is becoming obsolete?
@@coolbuddyshivam Because in Chinese culture, there are generally speaking three paths to careers - government, business, and academia. Shenzhen is a hub for the business life but such livelihoods are rarely as stable or honorable as academia, or as powerful as government. While it's hard to say for certain that it's still true today, going into business was seen as something you did if you were too stupid to come out on top in the academic race. Jack Ma commonly talks about this, I recommend that you take a look at his speeches.
Rufei 北方特别喜欢当安逸的公务员，南方特别喜欢折腾经济，你的说法是错误的，改革开放在深圳成功是有原因的
@@maxidumyang5102 They didn't think that with automation replacing repetitive jobs, how could the education that doesn't focus on developing creativity would still be a road to prosperity in near future?
Thank you for providing the sources
another day to be thankful for being Cantonese ig
from the vids ive seen about school in china, it still shocks me how many exams the kids over there have, i studied at a private international school and never had any exams until secondary school, there's 1 end-of-year exam in form 1 and a mid-year and end-of-year in form 2 - 6, the teachers are mostly from either the UK or US so they're pretty chill, though the Cantonese and Chinese teachers can be scary sometimes (we have scary and chill korean teachers who i know are sisters lol), mostly it's just the class messing with them and us joking around for the laughs, they don't mind and usually join in on the fun
what i find strange is that there's never any mentions of Gao Kao here, it's just "if y'all locals don't wanna go to HKDSE stream, get good grades and go to GCE" some of us locals are shit at chinese and since there's only 49% of the students who can study GCE and most of that is reserved for non-locals, the competition is still quite intense lmao
China population is 1.4 billion, they're everywhere in the world not only US.
Did you not see the video the majority are in the u.s
@midgetydeath when their GDP per capital over USD 10K, they'll do the same, give them time.
@@maylanjow8126
As an Indian I can confirm that some Indians will eventually migrate to every available country
You're obviously Chinese.
It's an invasion or probably bringing in their spies.
It’s simple don’t be smart in a smart place
Be smart in a dumb place
@@objectoriented3049 and you aren't smart enough for any option
Dude that's literally how I roll lmao I go to the worst school and get in the worst class to be the 'top' in my class
Haha..that is what I do.
China top Unis are hard to get in. Those who flock outside China has a second chance.
Rude
Bruh I had Chinese foreign exchange students as my group project teammates and let me tell ya, every single one had on the Balenci Balenci & Goyard drip everywhere they went. They treated their $2,000 shoes, bags, & purses like scraps lmao but overall very chill people to talk to even though it was difficult for them to speak English. I miss college :(
my past school used to hold classes from 7:00 am to 6:00 pm. for some reason there are also night classes from 7:00 pm to 10:00 pm. when me and my family moved to the US one thing that surprised me was how limited their class time was, it felt like heaven to me.
Holy sh*t dude, where were you from???
My school (before the pandemic) literally hold classes from 7:00 Am to 3:00 Pm (when I arrive at home it's already 4:30) So I just had so many little time for me to just relax a bit, and even if I do so my mom would be somehow mad at me and be like "iN yOUth yOu HavE nO tIMe To ReLAx!!!!!", like f*ck my country's school system! (I'm from Indonesia btw)
EDIT:typo
@@progunjack5556 i once lived in the Philippines! normal public schools only hold classes from 7:00 to 5:00 from what I’ve heard but it’s different from the school I’ve been to since it’s a filo-chinese school. we also have night study halls and such, exactly like what is shown here in the vid.
Most of Chinese students , or all Chinese parents just want their children learning the advanced knowleage and provided their children High-quality learning environment， just for the work for better life.
Chinese students studying in USA, Canada, UK and Australia are from family members belonging to Chinese Communist Party. These CCP families send their children to Western countries because they do not have any confidence nor trust in the 3rd world, poor corrupt and incompetent Chinese Universities. Only ordinary poor Chinese families send their children to backward, poor, third world Chinese universities for education.
I was on a plane from Boston to LA and it was full of Chinese kids all wearing Harvard sweatshirts. They had just toured the university and were flying back to China. There were a couple of MIT shirts.
Roger.
Twenty percent are spies. In the last year 7 professors have been arrested for espionage or hiding that they are working g for the CCP. A student was arrested in Chicago for recruiting students to spy.
It’s faster for China to steal IP than figure it out themselves.
@@abditus5842 suspicious but okay
Makes me wonder what kind of deals are ongoing.
Abditus yo, if I am a kid from a rich ass family, I would never ever risk my life for useless reason while I can enjoy lots of things that normals don’t. What you said is suspicious.
Asking questions is favored and encouraging.
I"m surprised by the fact that the jump was in 2008. When I went to a public university grad school in 2004 (Wayne State in Detroit), the place was absolutely swarming with Chinese, although I suppose it really just had a lot of different international students, and since China has a lot of people, it had more people in the program. There were very few American students in my classes compared to when I was an undergrad in a private school.
My school's emphasis on globalization really showed by just how many foreign students we had. Unforunately, the Chinese students seems to exlusively hang out with one another and it would be obivous who was from hongkong bc they would walk in big groups through campus on the left side of the sidewalk haha
american government should never let any chinese students from mainland china to study technical subjects related to science and maths, but US should let those students to study only american literature and philosphy in american university,
@@jasonfung9516 lol why tho
*Me at the University gym when I need a spot*
*sees a couple Chinese guys happily conversing in Mandarin*
*I look all around the weight room and can't see anyone else free*
Me: *sighs* Excuse me, would it be OK if I got a spot real quick?
Chinese guy: *surprised Pikachu face*
@@ckc985 because education in universities are education, education should be provided for everyone who deserves it. Allow smart people from all around the world to have their education is the only reason why America now has the best universities now. If they stop allowing people to take this education because of their nationalities, the development will be slow down which doesn't benefit anyone.
irked- facts
Same in Korea, students are coming to US due to non availability of the schools.🗽💕💕you all
As More Progress Will happen in India
Their will be an Exponential Rise in our Numbers too 😅
I had two Korean roommates in college. One grew up here, the other was full on Korean. Both were awesome. Korean culture is amazing!
@@punitarathi4127 dude
indians and Chinese have major proportion in USA in terms of foreign students
@@pikachuthunderbolt3919 Yes ,But it is still less as
India have 1/5 th the Per Capita GDP of PRC
So ,very less students can actually afford to go and Study there
Once Economic Progess will Happen more people will go to study in the Land of Freedom
don't compare with Chinese universities
They are one of the best in world and get top position in QS ranking too.
I don't think Korean universities are that pretty standard except SNU.
In Asia Singapore , china and hong kong persist best universities across whole asia
Interesting video.
FYI, you have the South Korean flag rotated 180 degrees along the y-axis (the 3 solid line trigram belongs in the top-left; the 6 broken line trigram on the bottom right).
very insightful, also it’s worth to mention that most Asian countries are overcrowded which makes education + early stages of career highly competitive. Korea, Japan are equally stressful but only less population
so is india, bangladesh, pakistan .. and pretty much all of southeast asia
*Narrator:* SAT, AP, or IB.
*ACT:* Huh?
**GCSE**: wut
@Finn Oh lolll
O ACT nos estados unidos não é levado a sério, não é sério(blogueirinha,2019)
I know you didn't understand that.
@Angel Taylor British Sats
LOL also Alevel
For me, the reason I came to study in the United States is that I took the postgraduate qualification exam twice, but I didn't pass the English test, so I had to go abroad to get a master's degree
英语一吗
秦伯约 seriously
好一个晏子使楚😂
数学不是最难吗？ 看来你偏科啊
Fucking 50 cent bots are everywhere.
I love how the sponsorship with skillshare is always brought up in a smooth and unexpected way.
I’m China, my math teacher was constantly complaining about how slow and stupid I was at math. When I came to North America (in grade 2), I was way ahead of everyone else in my class and the math was similar to the kindergarten level in China.
Personnally speaking, I came to Canada for univercity because I will not be qualified for Chinese univercities.
Perhaps your Mandarin is worse than your English
@@julianatlas5172 guess my point is proven
@@AJ-iu6nw not really, I just sucks at self control, but somehow I got 92% as final grade in Canadian high school, Canadian high school curriculum is just easier.
@@w8ingsim43 Glad you're still able to pursue a path to higher education! It is important for everyone to have that opportunity the world over. Good luck with university :)
drewdy wait..how can his mandarin be worse if he clearly is fluent in it?
China: exists
PolyMatter: _It’s free real estate_
But honestly tho, keep it up!
I’m enjoying it:)
He even threw in an Apple reference. Heaven for this guy must be being trapped in an Apple store in central China.
Vancover and Australia: _exist_
wealthy Chinese: _It's free real estate_
yea but you cant buy real estate in china
@@EugeneAyindolmah yep pretty much, i have no issue with this (as an australian) the chinese students are very nice and have a better view of australia than america.
US, Canadian & UK Housing Market: exists
Chinese millionaires: It’s free real estate
I remember coming to the US when I was 5 and attending kindergarden. The school taught 1+1 in math while I could already add three digit numbers.
Most kids already know that stuff lol when I was 5 I could do the same thing but in America when u get to 8th grade and stuff it's a lot harder
I grew up in one of the worst performing school districts in my state and can confirm when I was in a class I was bad at (math, chemistry, physics) the teachers would just pass me so I didn't develop those skills well at all. just lucked out that the career I wanted didn't require much of that🤷♀️
The truth is that for the rich Chinese families it is easier to get into a good universities here in US than in China via the
tough Gaokao (Chinese college entrance exam), which you can only take once a year and have to study very hard for years
in high school. But if you choose to study at a US college/university, then you will have a much easier time in high school
as you are off the hook.
Then they're hindering themselves. Secondary school, undergraduate college, and graduate and professional school are all different entities. The number of people who have done badly at the lower stage and then do better and better as they move up the ladder is astounding. Rich kids and many of the affluent go to prep schools where the alphabet goes A-B-Z and no one get a "Z".
People get grades in secondary school by knowing how to identify and meet the class requirements. You do not have to be brilliant to do this although there are always a few people for whom the whole thing is a snap too. These types sometimes do not get very involved in the whole academic rat race and still come up with straight A's. They really do not teach you very much in high school.
The point of secondary school from the point of view of any regime is that the straight-A students are ones likely to be conformists politically. They often have no moral core and will go along with any system. In America, the university-trained leftists you see all over the place in the media and government are in fact the conformists. If they resist change, it is because they fear the development of new elements which might compete with their own children and because, dagnabit, as you get older, it just gets harder to morph. If you're seen doing it, it's embarrassing for one thing.
All rich class have more chance for better education worldwide, gaokao is the best system for poverty class
Yeah its hard to get into the top university in China but once they get in to their surprise the quality of education is not that very good and its not worth the trouble so why bother when they have the money to cone to America where the world’s best universities are waiting for them.
@Charles Chin this is why I hate the fucking capitals
@@karlmannyang Also the best way to kill students that aren't 'strong' enough, right?(Charles darwin would be proud)
“Ask questions is disrespectful to the teacher”
I went to a school where kids would beat up the teachers.
It is not about respect for the teacher, it is about not losing face.
Also, that’s why some students are left behind too and stay stuck probably. Poor students, not every one is born with the same speed and intelligence and etc
Kevin Smith Your comment is so inaccurate that I’m wondering if we’re even talking about the same thing😂
@@paulmakinson1965 Amen to that :) Muricans wouldnt know that stuff even if they tried
@@chrisp7110 I bet you are a self hating American
I’m so thankful to be an American, I never did great in school but eventually I found my way. I could never imagine going through what the Chinese have to
2:13 The books in girl and boy hands is the [Chemistry textbook], when i was in senior high school,I also used this version book.
I went to a high school that didnt require me to take chemistry for graduation.
I agree to this, every Chinese exchange student my school ever had were filthy rich, and academically jaded.
Not true, there are two types: The filthy rich flexers (who usually don't care much about studies), and the hardworking, middle class students who are usually extremely intelligent and diligent.
To be fair, would a poor family send their kid overseas to study? Universities are extremely expensive and international students have to pay everything upfront. No poor person could afford that.
So of course most international students are from affluent families.
@@raider968 That is what I was thinking. There is no way a poor Chinese family going to be able to afford international school tuition.
It is mostly true for high school exchange students, but barely in college or graduate school
@@raider968 Middle class families may struggle a lot in the process of transitioning overseas, often choosing to come over is a gamble that you put all your money into, but a reasonable amount of middle class families are able to handle it with some measure of hard work. The language barrier is often the biggest issue in the end.
As a person who took 9 years of education in China, and 7 years outside China, I always criticise GaoKao in terms of its structure and the ways Chinese schools prepare the students for it. The three years of high school can be a torment for most of Chinese students, but on the other hand, GaoKao is definitely a fair and efficient system.
China is big, the size of population is crazy, and it is still developing, so it is hard for China to allocate resources equally, including education. But under the system of GaoKao, people from remote and impoverished areas have the opportunity to take high quality of tertiary education in big cities. The government recognises their hard-work by taking special consideration even though their grades are relatively lower than other kids from those big cities, and also help them financially. Their lives will be definitely changed!!!
Imagine, if China also adopts the same uni enrolment system as US, it will take them a long long time to find “the right” students from 1.4B people. And those from less-developed areas will suffer from disadvantages of having not so much experiences and co-curriculum activities.
Thank you for the reasonable and contrary perspective.
I agree an exam that determines your life sounds very Spartan, but it's fair and efficient.
1.4B should be changed to something like 100 Million, because not everyone takes the GaoKao in one year
My thoughts as well. The American system works in the highly developed first world. But if China is using the same system, only children from the richest 10% would have opportunity for education. Gaokao system gave everyone a fair chance to be in the game.
same here in india
I don’t think it’s fair. Simply efficient. Judging by one standard and nothing else means you can’t see a student by more than one number. Many students won’t be the best mathematicians or physicists at that age, but that doesn’t mean that they can’t be great at the fields later. By making this a high stakes, all or nothing exam that can be gamed by the wealthy, you are essentially weeding out ppl and relegating them to jobs that they might not be good at, but a test says they have to be. It’s a low cost way to divide the population. No politics needed. But a waste of human capital.
Back in school, many Chinese classmates have cheating and plagiarism problems. Someone got kicked out of school because of cheating in the final exam.
This is a stereotype. It’s highly biased
@@kevinkacer6184
No, it's the truth.
"Everyone's favorite-TAXES!"
In the words of CalebCity: "I gotta calm down-I almost hit him"
US thought those Chinese Student will take democracy with them back to China. But most of them ended up staying.
@@im_bchen Are you the member of 50 cent army? Because I have seen you defending Ccp in a lot of videos
@@im_bchen only 49, oh okay red chinese communist agent...
@@im_bchen please stop talking, your not on a streak he just didn't respond yet and is probably asleep. Secondly your original comment about William Chao being an American spy is so stupid that I actually lost brain cells reading it. Also we all know that China's numbers are wrong, as most of their numbers are pretty much only people in the cities. The worst part is that they could have you know actually fixed the problem before it got worse instead of trying to hide it and causing it to get worse. Also wtf does "Freedom brain" even mean, if that is supposed to be an insult to Americans then either you are actually retarded, or you are just trolling which in that case good job. Imagine stroking your own ego publicly just because someone probably just fell asleep listening to your retarded bullshit. (Btw I don't agree with everything that Tyvern said so don't put that on me)
SsexyChinese ok
Bringing democracy back to China is impossible right now. Almost important resources is controlled by the government in the excuse of national security and nationalism. In addition, any action to trying to spread ing democracy will be monitored and most of them are threatened in various forms. As ordinary people, I have no idea and courage to make changes about this country. For the second thought, I just wanna better life for my own family.
Not just USA some universities in the UK have like 30% Chinese students
@@88hyperman said no one ever. In my country they are the worst.
Deport them
@@88hyperman I also study in Vancouver, though I am not Indien
Yep, I know a Chinese exchange student and she’s graduating from college and going to England college next year
Arsenal fan. good ebening
Note that many US colleges are making SAT/ACT optional, while Chinese colleges use only their exam
Tbh, every country has lots of students come from china because of their huge population? I'm a university student in Japan and my university has many overseas students especially china and india.
@@alexribeno1612 tf u mean by steal? They are litterally just students trying to study. Unfortunately your “free world” loves make problems all over the world, but I guess it’s all justified because it’s in the name of freedom right
It's the same story in India. JEE is the exam, and IIT is the chain of colleges with 10,000 seats (including reservations). So, thousands of students emigrate to Canada and Australia for College. US is less favourable, as they don't easily provide citizenships.
But every one get equal chance to get higher education not like China if you fails it means you failed in life however that is not in India if you cannot get addmision in IIT there are many other prestige institutions where you can get addmision.
@@indeedsussy7838bong that's true in India we join local colleges if we don't make into premier ones because most of us can't afford foreign universities but many go out because of our poor education system but china seems like same as us.
@@rohitpandey2597 the only difference between indian and Chinese is they have more money than indian and one can easily afford studying abroad and they don't even need to work part time there whereas only few people able to go out and most of them also have to work part time to support there turion fees
@@indeedsussy7838 LOL wtf are you on about, the highest ranked indian university is IIT at 152, that's about the same as the 120th ranked Nanjing university in China, a second tier university. the best university in india is like a second rate university in China.
@@obsidianstatue Sundar Pichai (Google CEO) had studied in IIT . Satya Nadella (CEO Microsoft) studied in IIM. India has some of the best universities of the world. Do not check a university by ranking. Indian Universities lack quality in infrastructure but not in education.
Reason 1: US has much more and much better educational resource over China;
Reason 2: Chinese families are getting rich at rocket speed and still value education over other properties;
Reason 3: Chinese people have a extremely good impression on US.
The three reasons are sufficient and necessary conditions. And the conclusion doesn’t hold water if missing any of the three.
Strange that you profess to know, yet you clearly have never studied overseas - at least not in an English-speaking country.
Reason 1: US has *many* more, and -much- -better- higher educational -resource- *standards* -over- *than* China;
Reason 2: Chinese families are getting rich at rocket speed and still value education over other properties; *(properties? are you talking about real estate properties???)*
Reason 3: Chinese people have -a- *an* extremely good impression -on- *of* US. (I am guessing you meant to say *of*. If not, then perhaps you meant to say, *upon* )
Even minor grammatical errors change the entire meaning of what you are trying to say. Which is why no-one can trust Chinese to tell the truth.
@@donttalkcrap Great! At least, my opinion is shared with others here via English language, and apparently had exchange with you.
Thanks for pointing out the grammar errors. But some of them changed what I mean.
Reason 1:
donttalkcrap edits: US has many more, and -much- -better- higher educational -resource- *standards* over *than* China;
(I mean to say that US has many more high-quality educators, high-quality education methodologies, and high-quality colleges/universities. That's why I use "resource", a uncountable noun)
Reason 2:
Chinese families are getting rich at rocket speed and still value education over other properties; (donttalkcrap comments: properties? are you talking about real estate properties???)
(I mean to say *properties*. The real estate property is just one kind of properties. Houses, cars, furnitures, home appliances, what we play, what we wear, and what we eat are all properties.)
@@pengfeili3326 everything you said is the truth ,he maybe is from Bangladesh or india so he is jealous cuz he cannot afford an overseas education Booohoooo
you are biased!
donttalkcrap
Lmao
Some of the issues that you raise about Chinese international students are also applicable to Australia and New Zealand. A lot of them tend to go to the STEM and commerce subjects.
In Canada we don't have uni entrance exams and every province runs k-12 slightly differently but growing up i remember finding grade 12 'diploma' exams very stressful. I dont know of other provinces having them. In grade 12 our final exams for academic subjects were from the government and the same across the province. Its since been lowered to 30% but when i went through these tests were worth 50% of your grade. When your grade 12 marks are all that matter for uni admission this was a lot of pressure.
I can imagine the insurance call:
'Hi, I'd like to insure myself against not having enough Chinese people around.'
Operator: Wr'll fix it right away.
(sends 10k more chinese students)
These 🅱ois and Grills are top students.
When I went to China on exchange to Fudan Uni (a C9 university), there were Chinese students who were completing a degree in a Western country and doing an exchange program in China to "attend" a pretigious university like Fudan
You have to see things in perspectives... if you read the wiki article about the number of university that China has and when it opened and started.. you can see that it was created only merely in the past 70 or 90 years... very new. So you can see the herd mentality in both the people, and the time twisting continuum.... some people don't even know what their position does in terms of jobs, or those educated won't know the possible systemic issues etc... In the West, the people may appear dumb, both their parents and the publishing sector backfills the rest ? There is no such a thing in China.... Really, even if there are actual skilled people, the commercialisation effect is tough to control. For example... some Western professionals praised some woman from China with a so called Nobel Prize, but yet... that medicine was already an actual TCM techniques already which so many people know. Without even going to school. So how come these people didn't get a nobel prize too but that elite person did ? Such is the kind of social issue of China today. I.e. Who to award with titles and money, and who not to. China has a big inequality issue..... big big one. The famous line. ...from Deng.... "make some people rich first and then the rest will follow"..... but those who made it rich kept their money and the poor then didn't want to progress any more. And that equal chance group now has become shame..... If China does not address this shame.... or that those with money, is not ethical, and do not also twist things back round, the society will have a big issue. From all people who are equal to both extremely unequal.
Damn they playing chess not checkers
I was just an average student who only scored around110/150 in my high school math in China, while I came to U.S. my calculaus was NEVER below 90...Many American and Chinese students want to team up with me each time we doing labs. I helped TA explained class materials on reciation period when students asked her questions that she can't answer more than onces...
A well done video that leaves out one important dimension to the discussion --- American, British, etc universities opening campuses in Mainland China.
They are going to do in India too in upcoming days might be
Polymatter: "how do universities make money?"
Every Student Ever: *Those Damn Textbooks!!*
In Germany, it depends on the subject.
Law: In the lecture, I tell only half of what you need to pass the test. The rest is in my book, which you can buy for only 400€!
Physics: There are ten different books, which are all good. Just download them for free from inside the University internet.
but the money you pay for your textbooks doesn't even go to your university, it goes to the authors and the publisher
3rd month of the semester
haven't bought a textbook yet xD
These useless books should be on the internet at marginal price. Of course, the schools are all corrupt and cling to easy money making scams. I never bought a textbook in college back in the 1960's, we all shared, after all, we all lived in a commune at Berkeley and did our school work in the kitchen (where I, the only female, lived at that time) and we all did very well.
Tuition and Texbooks now. It used to be just Textbooks, but seeing how much tuition is now, its everything from textbooks, dorms, tuition, use of facilities (if your school charges for them like gym memberships and so on. My School charges a flat fee on every student for gym regardless if you use it or not.)
There are many Chinese students here in Germany aswell.
in australia we have so many international students not just chinese but also indian students (their numbers are growing faster than chinese students) and just generally asian students. its pretty cool actually
is that a bad thing
@@nuklearboysymbiote nope. It's just a fact :)
@@fjellyo3261 nice
@@imakevideos5377 if youve got an Asian fetish its cool.
cause getting into university of toronto (where I am now) is the same difficulty as getting into a community college in china
Really? I’m interested in this uni too. Do u study in graduate program? Can u share ur TOEFL and GPA?
It’s like starting the game on hard difficulty and after beating it, you make a new playthrough on easy mode.
3:30, Singapore topped all 3 categories., wow!!
Yeap but for the 2018 PISA China topped all 3 categories dropping Singapore to 2nd
Bro I feel shit as a Singaporean lol
China failed badly behind USA and Russia in reading. Either they can’t see well or read.
As a Singaporean I felt like it is a good country but just casual,till I saw that score I knew I was living in a Asian parent country though my parents aren’t like those
when you’re a singaporean but suck at your studies 😂 i definitely didn’t contribute to these stats...
"whereas in american college, students start getting serious" LMAOO alright bud
i think he meant, if they choose to get serious, thats when they do it. lol
Well on average... yeah they do. Because they find out they can't just slack off like they did in high school and get a passing grade, doesn't mean they turn into super students... they just well turn into students.
@@Mike__B I have slacked off more in college than I have in high school. I literally have a midterm tomorrow that I'm studying for right now
@@rubiconcrossing4480 Out of curiosity, what year are you in college?
Mike B 4th year electrical engineering student. The midterm is in American History.
I for one appreciate & welcome international friends.
Thus, I appreciate your videos.
It's the west in general. My friend transferred from an Asian school to a UK school during sophomore year (moved countries). In his math class, he was asked what 5 times 5 times 5 is and he quickly responded with 125-everyone was shocked, and he still wonders to this day what's so impressive about it lmao.
So true, I was at the bottom of ranks at schools back in Shanghai, and last 9 years of school in u.s. (Chicago) I was always on top
Same in india
Ngl illionois is so easy I used to live in Indiana and I felt like I was in the was the wrong grade.
@@alexribeno1612 just enjoying my superiority to you mutts. Long Live China :)
@@jamsonren9640 Ironic considering that my Chinese classmates study 24/7 while I play on my Xbox and I still get much much higher grades than them 😀.
@@thetecno5800 good job?
This reminded me of how students do the same in India. They prepare themselves a lot for the entrance exam to IIT but only few gets selected.
The US should be taking Indian students over Chinese students. Indian people are way more respectful, less insular, and India is an ally of the US so we wouldn't have to be too concerned about spying. China also has an immoral culture focused on getting ahead at any cost.
@@siglan6148 Big facts right here. We do military training and technology development with India, so why not accept more of their students to make both of our countries better.
@@siglan6148 aww that's so sweet of you. But as an Indian I prefer cleaning the mess in our own country and creating educational institutions that can compete on global level. In our already hyper competetive world, it wouldnt be a good practice if Americans had to compete with foreigners in job markets. I guess it'll be better for both our countries if each country develops it's own educational sector than having to export it's students to other countries
@@meghanachauhan9380 That's even better, I wish India the best in the future.
@@siglan6148 I'm an Indian,I think everyone should allowed to study irrespective of their origin and financial constraints doesn't allow that much people from India to study in abroad
2:42 I love that shop literally named as "grilled fish VS Brazilian secret sauce pork belly"
Most of my east asian classmates study all the time..and by that I mean ALL THE TIME. waking up early and going to bed late JUST TO STUDY. 7 days a week. I get high most of the time i'm in school and i party on the weekends. I still get higher scores than them. You need to study smart, not hard.
Holy shit. Kudos to you
@Uncle John dude, i was high on weed
@@sb9344 How tf do you get adderal bruh
@@honkhonk8009 err..doctor's office? Also i've never taken adderal
@@sb9344 I know asking TH-cam comments for help is probably a dumb idea but I'm desperate I've been way stressed with my exams, so any sort of tips?