Absolutely there’s nothing to reply back, everything you’ve replied to already. I am not Farci learned person. It’s clear. But it’s clear too that your attitude of being gharanas connected is no fit to be proven as well. Be polite more if you are connected to any gharana. I experienced that new generation are loosing it therefore they are loosing real singing of gharanas . Just they have labeled of gharanas but don’t have any taste. Especially Pakistani loosing everything. Your chach or uncle may had many goodwills, but watch what you’re?
@@あかし中村 Ihave share just my experiences, between old time to the present artist, I been touched more than 50 years of my life, now I am crossing 70’s. May you feel some hardness, but it’s for all new generations, about what I felt I spoke. At moment even a single singer has not been liking by me.
@@あかし中村 love your reply’s, god bless you. I been also learned classical through gharanas system and passed Master degree of classical vocal music nd still keep learning, it’s endless path, never come to be completed. That’s what I learned. It will never come/drop into your soul, if you’re not be polite, sober nd loving attitude. I found it into Ustad Salamat Ali Khan Saheb, he never did any copy right, he spread into everyone, for a normal person. His singing is abnormal, what I learned in highly tropical books, I have come to understand by his singing. Thanks to all been talking between us.
Hello Sir can you upload puriya dhanashri by Ustaad Salamat Ali Khan sahab. There are many clips of him singing it but cannot seem to find the one i listened to a couple of years ago. That was the best rendition i have ever heard
Both raag has same chain of sewars but it’s not enough to put it in same. For example, the Megh & Madmat Sarang have same notes of swar, but raag is not same in singing style. Megh is in Malhar style and Madmat Sarang is in Sarang style singing. In raag the vadi/samvadi swar has more important to create raag shape. Megh has Sa/Pa vadi/samvadi, but the other has Re/Pa vadi/ samvadi. Ther are many raags has same thaat, same swars , and same chalan/style too, even they have differentiation. The second, Ust. Salamat Ali Khan saheb had never been put his final statement that what what he has created that’s only by him, you can go through his interview, I been loaded on this channel.
@@JaswantBassan thankuu so much jaswantji for your quick and detail response 🙏 actually मेरे गुरुजी पंडित मनोहर चीमोटे किसी जमाने मे खां साहब को हारमोनियम संगत किया करते थे..इसी लिए यह गायकी से बहुत बरकाइसे मेरा परिचय है। राग शुभकल्याण भी चलन से ऐसा ही लगता है।लेकिन वो किसिका availble नही है।मेरे गुरुजी भी इसे बजाते थे।लेकिन wadi samvadi re pa रखके।आपको धन्यवाद
@@mayamotegaonkar6282 शुभ कल्याण बिलकुल मदकल्याण की तरह ही है, वादी/संवादी सा/पा रखकर गाते हैं, मैं अक्सर अपने दोस्तों से कहता हूँ कि मदकल्याण वि शुभ कल्याण दोनों same राग हैं , मगर ख़ान साहेब राग में इतना घुल जाते हैं के उनका वादी दुंडना बहुत मुश्किल हो जाता है, इसका ये अर्थ नहीं कि राग बिगड़ जाता है , मुझे लगता है कि मुझे और समझ रखनी होगी । ख़ान साहेब का गाया kaunsi kanhra को सुने , मद्धम वादी है मगर मद्धम पकड़ना मुश्किल हो जाता है । यह लोग हमारे जैसों के लिये नये आधाइय खोलते हैं। Thanks to talk such a way.
Madh kalyan, kalyan Thaat ka raag hai. Jansanmohini Khamaj thaat ka raag hai. Swars ke same hone se raag same nahi ho jata. Ek raag banane mein bahut sei dusari baton ka bhi dhyan rakhna hota hai. Mein nahi janta aap kis khayal se poochh rahe ho.
@@JaswantBassan Thank you sir for your reply. But the badhat (expansion) of Madh kalyan seems tobe as jansanmohoni. I do agree that the chalan of similar swars are different and visible as in case bhupali - Deskar, Marwa - puriya - sohini, Bhairav - kalingada etc. But i could not specified the difference of phrases in Jansanmohini and Madh Kalyan. If you specify then please let me inform. 🙏
@@hpgandharv About Jansanmohini, I haven’t touched it yet, it’s well experience to me that your knowledge of this raag near/exact to the Madh Kalyan. Khan Saheb never been confirmed that what he introduced as new or his creation is final, they were used to say that it is as our knowledge . It’s quite possible that this kind of raag may exist in other books. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, I have given link the interview he stated. th-cam.com/video/iYtvgx_XIU4/w-d-xo.html Enjoy this valuable recordings.
Best Quality singing.mashAllh
23:56 ---- Farsi tarana ang 😍🥰😍
Isme farsi nahi hai, tarane bol esy hi hute hain
@@あかし中村 I am sick, later will reply.
Absolutely there’s nothing to reply back, everything you’ve replied to already. I am not Farci learned person. It’s clear. But it’s clear too that your attitude of being gharanas connected is no fit to be proven as well. Be polite more if you are connected to any gharana. I experienced that new generation are loosing it therefore they are loosing real singing of gharanas . Just they have labeled of gharanas but don’t have any taste. Especially Pakistani loosing everything.
Your chach or uncle may had many goodwills, but watch what you’re?
@@あかし中村 Ihave share just my experiences, between old time to the present artist, I been touched more than 50 years of my life, now I am crossing 70’s. May you feel some hardness, but it’s for all new generations, about what I felt I spoke. At moment even a single singer has not been liking by me.
@@あかし中村 love your reply’s, god bless you.
I been also learned classical through gharanas system and passed Master degree of classical vocal music nd still keep learning, it’s endless path, never come to be completed. That’s what I learned. It will never come/drop into your soul, if you’re not be polite, sober nd loving attitude. I found it into Ustad Salamat Ali Khan Saheb, he never did any copy right, he spread into everyone, for a normal person. His singing is abnormal, what I learned in highly tropical books, I have come to understand by his singing. Thanks to all been talking between us.
Please upload such rendition of ustad Nazakat & ustad Salamat khan sahib.
Plz check into my channel, many others are there.
کمال
Thanks Jasvant
Hello Sir can you upload puriya dhanashri by Ustaad Salamat Ali Khan sahab. There are many clips of him singing it but cannot seem to find the one i listened to a couple of years ago. That was the best rendition i have ever heard
درونِ سینہ من زخمِ بے نشان زدہ:
بحیرتم کہ عجب تیر بے کمان زدہ:
Here’s the persian poetry
Absolutely this is what I'm talking about 😊
Thank you so so much 😊
Can you please reveal out the Pronunciations of this poetry 🥺
Ustad fateh ali kha and aman ali kha sahab ka rag shiv kalyan is also like this raga...chalan is similar
I didn’t touch Shiv Kalyan , therefore can’t reply it well, later on I will reply about it.
Both raag has same chain of sewars but it’s not enough to put it in same. For example, the Megh & Madmat Sarang have same notes of swar, but raag is not same in singing style. Megh is in Malhar style and Madmat Sarang is in Sarang style singing. In raag the vadi/samvadi swar has more important to create raag shape. Megh has Sa/Pa vadi/samvadi, but the other has Re/Pa vadi/ samvadi. Ther are many raags has same thaat, same swars , and same chalan/style too, even they have differentiation.
The second, Ust. Salamat Ali Khan saheb had never been put his final statement that what what he has created that’s only by him, you can go through his interview, I been loaded on this channel.
@@JaswantBassan thankuu so much jaswantji for your quick and detail response 🙏 actually मेरे गुरुजी पंडित मनोहर चीमोटे किसी जमाने मे खां साहब को हारमोनियम संगत किया करते थे..इसी लिए यह गायकी से बहुत बरकाइसे मेरा परिचय है। राग शुभकल्याण भी चलन से ऐसा ही लगता है।लेकिन वो किसिका availble नही है।मेरे गुरुजी भी इसे बजाते थे।लेकिन wadi samvadi re pa रखके।आपको धन्यवाद
@@mayamotegaonkar6282 शुभ कल्याण बिलकुल मदकल्याण की तरह ही है, वादी/संवादी सा/पा रखकर गाते हैं, मैं अक्सर अपने दोस्तों से कहता हूँ कि मदकल्याण वि शुभ कल्याण दोनों same राग हैं , मगर ख़ान साहेब राग में इतना घुल जाते हैं के उनका वादी दुंडना बहुत मुश्किल हो जाता है, इसका ये अर्थ नहीं कि राग बिगड़ जाता है , मुझे लगता है कि मुझे और समझ रखनी होगी । ख़ान साहेब का गाया kaunsi kanhra को सुने , मद्धम वादी है मगर मद्धम पकड़ना मुश्किल हो जाता है । यह लोग हमारे जैसों के लिये नये आधाइय खोलते हैं। Thanks to talk such a way.
आपके इतने दीर्घ explanation के लिये धन्यवाद...बहोत अच्छा लगा चर्चा होके..ज्ञान पानेका मजाही अलग है.. धन्यवाद
Pls anybody tell me the words of Antara of tarana..
Plz. Check description details
Plz. Check the description details.
Yes..dekha..Tarana अंतरे के words kuch अलग है..
It's Farsi tarana bro. So it's in Parsian language. It's one of the most rarest characteristics of Shyam Chaurasi Gharana........
It's introduced by Shayakh Usman-e-Harooni Sahab ji
Minor nit: The Vilambit Khayal is set to Ada Chautal, not Jhoomra.
It was written in audio data, me also didn’t check it, thanks for correction dost. 🎉🎉
What is the difference between Madh Kalyan and Jansanmohini ?
Madh kalyan, kalyan Thaat ka raag hai. Jansanmohini Khamaj thaat ka raag hai. Swars ke same hone se raag same nahi ho jata. Ek raag banane mein bahut sei dusari baton ka bhi dhyan rakhna hota hai. Mein nahi janta aap kis khayal se poochh rahe ho.
@@JaswantBassan Thank you sir for your reply. But the badhat (expansion) of Madh kalyan seems tobe as jansanmohoni. I do agree that the chalan of similar swars are different and visible as in case bhupali - Deskar, Marwa - puriya - sohini, Bhairav - kalingada etc. But i could not specified the difference of phrases in Jansanmohini and Madh Kalyan. If you specify then please let me inform. 🙏
@@hpgandharv About Jansanmohini, I haven’t touched it yet, it’s well experience to me that your knowledge of this raag near/exact to the Madh Kalyan. Khan Saheb never been confirmed that what he introduced as new or his creation is final, they were used to say that it is as our knowledge . It’s quite possible that this kind of raag may exist in other books. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, I have given link the interview he stated.
th-cam.com/video/iYtvgx_XIU4/w-d-xo.html
Enjoy this valuable recordings.
Thank you sir. 🙏
In madhkalyan rishbh is prominant in arohawaroh...which is absent in jansammohini...
Kaho ki na mane