You SHOULD Pirate Anime.
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The only reason I don't use legal sites is because I can't watch 90% of shows because they are region locked
You could use an VPN
Or start hoisting the skull and crossbones. At least the seven seas are consumer friendly.
I dont use illegal sites cause Im fine with ads and dont wanna risk my pc to malware
@@sebastianharbom2137 VPNs are blocked on my University internet, and yet nearly EVERY pirating site isn't. It's a fairly easy choice. I didn't even know a single pirating site until about 2 months ago, and now I'm watching loads of stuff that isn't on Crunchyroll due to region lock or exclusive licenses. Amazing shows like Violet Evergarden, Spice & Wolf, Made in Abyss and Dororo that I would otherwise have never seen solely due to the shit state of the provider industry.
@@popepepe6042 just boot up a virtual machine if you're that scared or use a portable hard drive for everything and just reinstall windows if you catch a malware exe. Compare and contrast. Use Firefox with ublock origin, ghostery, and https addons for minimum chances of malware infection. Don't give money to human rights violators!
You have to pirate one piece, it's just the logical thing to do.
Luffy would be proud
Unless you have a bandwidth cap. Doesn't it have 200 episodes or something??
you'd use up your bandwidth watching it on a legal streaming site anyways what's the difference?
800+
Denji2006 200 episodes lol
“you should pirate anime”
any anime fan who’s first language isn’t English; *Always has been*
I can confirm i am braziliam everyone i know uses pirates anime
Same
Im from Paraguay and i can confirm that
Me as a South American it's totally normal to pirate anime, in fact being subscribed to a subscription service is really rare here lol
@@evandropaschoalini5940 superanimes?
I hate what they've put 3 seasons on one platform, and then the remaining 5 on a completely different one that I've never heard of 😩
@@gillian5445 I actually recently cancelled my netflix subscription for that reason. Using a funimation and hulu subscription now for anime and other. Netflix just wasnt cutting it anymore.
@@breeze5926 what I do is I just get a Adblock then I use Crunchyroll the best way in my opinion
@@gillian5445 netflix has who know what movie, so 100% piracy
@@hdhsahgajs2522 no you dumbhead, get a adblocker and got to 9anime or animepahe and watch there
@@gillian5445 same for food wars and attack on titan
A deaf person would think this is a One Piece review.
I thought I was pirating one piece.
But the title...
One piece are pirates, hence the one piece background anime, his point is still valid
We really should start to pirate anime, also... a english dubbing company needs to buy the rights for One Piece from Funimation so we can actually get Punk Hazard dubbed... Man at least with 4Kids we were about to get to Dressrosa Arc... oof
I loved the One Piece scenes in the background. Made the vid more enjoyable imo.
A good example of a good pirate combatter is Steam. Lots of people favor Steam instead of pirating, just because of how fuckin convenient it is.
GreenSoap Yeah Valve is good, i mean Gaben
I like GoG, but as it is it only serves as an alternative for most people, because Steam just excels as a platform.
Gaben make fair sales.. 80% discount is good.
Honestly this is so true lol
I pirate everything but not games I just buy em on steam if I can't buy em on steam I don't buy em
Yeah, you don't need to go trough all the setups and steps, you just buy it, download it and play it.
"Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem."
-Gabe Newell
for example in turkey it was pricing problem. i was stop piracing games after stream offer special price for turkish people that have make us buy games with like less than half of the it worth because that is how steam saved us from currency exchance rate problem
I pirate games, but I legit feel bad for it, because I'm poor. I play them on a budget laptop. But I made a promise to myself that I'll buy all of the games I enjoyed, just because it's the right thing to do.
With anime I don't feel bad at all.
EDIT: 2 years later and I got me a gaming laptop (I spent half of the week in a house and the other half in another because of my job, so having a PC is impractical). I bought pretty much all of the games I pirated and beat for the last 10 years.
@@danielbueno8474 yeah good idea because just like you sad i even bought games on stream that i pirated before and not even play them anymore XD
True. If each service can provide what you paying for specifically than you'll buy it. Funimation used to be the go to for dubbed fans and was worth the money until they where barred from having many of the seasonal shows that their service was 'advertised' to be providing ( dubbed anime ). You brought it cos it was more convenient and safe now you avoid it because it's no longer providing the value you place on it.
There’re many options to watch live sports games but still millions of people choose illegal streaming because they don’t want to pay.
literally the worse thing anime sites have is pop up ads while HULU literally makes you watch adds even though you pay for the dam service.
for me I didn't have to watch the ads. you would probably have to pay extra for no ads, now I went back to pirate websites due to getting rid of hulu.
@@yukaenvy5446 yeah but hulus ads aren't introducing viruses...
@@zo7627 You still shouldn't pay to see ads. Also, ads don't introduce viruses unless you're technologically ignorant, most of the time they're just on the side and if you don't click them you're fine.
how about.... AD BLOCKER???? they even block youtube ads
Yes and that’s why you don’t buy the 5.99 subscription, you get what you pay for
Damn, even pornhub has a buffer bar.
Wol f LOL
Wol f PornHub also has anime!
Wol f ironically pornhub is one of the best streaming sites I’ve used, and I don’t even have any sort of account. I guess to be fair the porn industry is fucking huge in America, but I still find it funny. Porn is great.
Pornhub is honestly a great site even aside from the porn. in the years i've been using it i've never had an issue.
Pornhub is actually kinda better than youtube, in some aspects. Heck, youtube even stole the thumbnail gifs (except youtube did it worse).
I'm kind of sick of the "this series is not available in your region" thing
Regions are annoying huh?
guess what, there's a chrome extension for that.
yeah, but that's still not legal and can get your account banned
Gea Force Well I’m already paying for the service, so they can piss off
wait, you guys pay to watch anime?
Man even Netflix is doing more for anime than crunchy roll and funimation
Yeah cause their making their own Netflix originals anime that are actually good violet ever garden, Beastars, bna and more.
@The Deathless story 7/10. Characters, action, and music 10/10.
Funimation doesn't even got Jojo's
I prefer SAO on Crunchyroll
@@LarryDevaun 7ds 🥺
When people ask me where I watch One Piece and such, my only answer is:
"The secret Ingredient is crime"
Piracy²
“Well, you see, you should be like the people in One Piece.”
“Pirates?”
“You’re a quick one…”
It's the pirate's life for me
I have Crunchyroll premium so I watch one piece there
I would say the law requires i answer no
My main issue is there's no one site that has every show, if there was I think most people would pay for anime. Of course the problem is if a company got to that point they'd have a monopoly and could jack up their prices, so there's no perfect solution.
wouldn't that website hold a monopoly over every anime ever; isn't that against the law for the reason that it makes it impossible for anyone else to compete, essentially giving most of the revenue to one company
William Torres Not if licences weren't exclusive. Publishers in Japan seem oblivious to the sheer amount of money they're losing by making these exclusive deals.
Kissanime
Talon : no, because in france for instance we only have access to some anime, not everything of the crunchyroll catalog already, and funimation is not even available AT ALL
If there was a site like that, it would cost as much as several existing sites combined. And monopolies aren't known for being cheap, innovative, or consumer-friendly. If pirates are whining about paying multiple sites because they expect to get everything for the price of a CR subscription, they're not going to pay more for a site that has "every show."
Besides, neither Netflix, Hulu, nor Amazon has every US movie and TV show ever made, yet people still pay for one or more of those sites. I'd say part of the problem lies with the anime viewerbase's culture of entitlement and unrealistic expectations.
what confuses me is that when youtubers try to guilt you into "supporting the industry," they always seem to mention the overworked, underpayed animators as if that's supposed to convince you to pay the companies that are overworking and underpaying those animators while clearly not struggling to pay themselves.
Tohob COUGH cough MOST PPL COUGH
+Tohob That's what I was thinking.
It's basically the same reasoning that people apply to arguments about tipping waiters in restaurants. The argument is because they are not paid well. It's not our fault, it's the employers' greed that is thrown at us as a form of blaming.
Unless you work at McDonald's.
McDonald's employees don't keep their tips. It goes straight to the Ronald McDonald house. While I'm a little upset about that, I also can't be at the same time. That goes to children. :I
Yeah but here's the thing tho
It's kind of the law
You know
That thing that prevents you from killing that one guy who bumped into you.
That thing
So you should probably follow it if you don't wanna get a 250,000 dollar fine or spend up to 20 years in prison
Crunchyroll: "Sorry, not avalible in your country, this is USA and Japan only content"
Me: You said it, not me *pirates*
@Roger Dodger Its not just anime. Try watching Hulu outside of the US.
@@altrag pffpp just try fmovies.se I watched the whole 1st season of the Simpsons with adblock on and it's not just piracy I use it for, I also use it for sites like porn hub and the rule 34 site
Anyone know why season 2 of one punch isn’t available in USA
@@Kentaloupe I watch it every Tuesday on hulu
THIS
Just wanna add another point: a lot of legal streaming sites have a lot of region locked content, so in some cases you are trying to buy the service legally but you cant because it's not available in your country. Also for the "just use a vpn" argument, yeh let's pay ANOTHER subscription just so I can pay for a service I can get for free.
alsofor those, just use a vpn argument -> isnt paying for subscription going to give me convinence and smooth experience than the ad filled kiss-anime alternative. Like how steam did to installing games
Vpns cost hundreds of dollars. I fucking hate this shit.
There are many decent free vpn services
@@rackzgotmee I tried a free VPN on Netflix once to watch a show that is only available on USA netflix. didn't work.
@@shre6619 lol that isnt the only site, animeowl lets you turn off adds for free an even lets you choose the quality of streaming including 1080p.
"Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem, If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable." -Gabe Newell
Region locks don't explain piracy in areas where content *is* available, though. CR and others offer US customers access to anime 24/7, in the same format pirates prefer (streaming), purchasable from the convenience of their personal computer, and (Netflix aside) as soon as it airs in Japan. Sure seems like a lot of anime viewers just don't want to pay subscription fees or pay the time cost of waiting a week and watch ads -- looks like a pricing problem to me!
And now he is the crack dealer of the game industry.
Zalis116 I watch multiple animes. I rather pirate than own multiple streaming services to watch my favorite anime’s.
If that’s the case you’re making for pricing problem, than hell Yeah, it’s a stupid, unnecessary pricing problem that legal companies made for themselves.
If my fansub site started charging 10/month to download their anime, I would still go there rather then pay 6 for CR. Not even considering exclusive licenses.
So why not subscribe to the one that fits your needs the best, and pirate what isn't on it? It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Steam doesn't have all video games, yet people don't go around saying "I refuse to buy any games until they're all in one place."
I have a paid service but this message will always get me to pirate: "This anime is not available in your country"
Got any of dem animes? -Insert DaveChappelleCrackMeme.jpeg -
Streaming services are so incompetent at their one job.
Herp DeDerp That's exactly the reason, thank you! I'm not paying for an incomplete service.
What makes it worse is that people know that they are getting an incomplete service but they dont actually know how incomplete due to the lack of infomation on the net.
Herp DeDerp well another problem with them is that they have to get streaming rights in the first place, so the amount of anime is very limited
The studios themselves admit that they don't make money from an anime from streaming, they get money from selling bluerays, since that's where they actually make money. Hell even the blueray is better quality and uncensored.
Uncensored? Are you talking about anime or hentai cause there is a bit of a difference.
@@devilscreation572 I'd assume Anime, because censored anime actually do exist. Tokyo Ghoul is censored on TV/websites and uncensored on DVD/Bluray.
@DevilsCreation Dude anime is censored all the time. Thats literally one of the biggest selling points of blu-ray releases.
Well shit I didn’t know that. You learn something everyday.
@@devilscreation572 Plenty of anime is also censored. But we're not talking about the crotch mosaics you see in hentai. We're talking bout the sunbeams/shadows/steam/whatever that gets done on "normal" anime. There's a lot of hot springs and showers and other such fanservice scenes where the girls are topless in a non-sexual context (at least as far as the story line is concerned!) That kind of stuff tends to get censored (even in Japan) for the TV release -- which is what CR and other sites tend to use as their source material -- but the Bluray edition has the censorship removed (depending on the quality of the show, sometimes that's the main selling point of the Bluray..)
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That wouldn't even really be _that_ big of a deal if it was done well. But they tend to do it with an overly heavy hand and it starts looking very awkward and out of place. It becomes very noticeable after you've seen a couple of shows in both the censored and uncensored formats.
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It would be like if HBO decided to re-film a "safe" version of Game of Thrones where the actresses all wear modern day lingerie in the sex scenes. You might not notice at first but once you realize how out of place it is in the setting, suddenly it would be all you can see when one of those scenes come on.
Two main reason to pirate:
1: The series is no longer available or not available in your country (and no way to directly import from Japan)
2: Localization companies (ie: Funimation) altering , censoring and /or injecting a political or social ideology into the local release.
torrent gundam but buy gunpla to make up for it
Localization literally means to change it for the Region.
@@cakeisyummy5755 but instead the companies insert this cringe political shit that makes no sense in the context of the anime (they actually change the context) that will be redundant in like 10 years to people who watch their dub in the future
@@CKangZ can you give an example of this happening
@@WhayYay
Over the past 15+ years, American-based anime import company FUNimation has had a series of incidents in which individuals working on the dubs of their various shows have altered the dialogue in individual episodes to include references to then-current sociopolitical matters within the United States. Shows known to have been affected by this include “Crayon Shin-Chan”, “Prison School”, “Miss Kobayashi’s Dragon Maid”, and “My Girlfriend is a Gal”.
This alone has been enough to upset not just anime fans the world over, but even reportedly some Japanese studios, as it brings controversy to shows that didn’t originally have that specific controversy going.
However, it’s not the only issue FUNimation is dealing with right now.
FUNimation paid a high price for the license to the series “Interspecies Reviewers”, a price they paid sight unseen. Because of this, it wasn’t until they were dubbing the first episode that they realized it was incredibly raunchy, at which point the voice actors balked at continuing. FUNimation halted production, only to sit on the license for several months thereafter. While people were waiting for FUNimation to figure out what they were going to do (they eventually sold the license to Nozomi Entertainment, which has a division that handles “adult” material), individuals employed by FUNimation took to social media to lecture everyone about how “if you can’t get it legally then you don’t need to have it” in response to people demanding that the series at least be subtitled.
FUNimation also botched the home video release of at least one recent “Dragonball Z” movie, such that the US release had a green tint to it that the theatrical screening and non-US releases didn’t have.
Several FUNimation employees - including top voice actors - have used their social media accounts to express controversial political sentiment, with many of these individuals getting into fights with fans and critics alike over them.
One of FUNimation’s top voice actors, Vic Mignogna, was hit with numerous allegations of improper sexual behavior right after the aforementioned Dragonball Z movie was released, a film where he had a major starring role. Some of these allegations fell apart instantly, but the fact that allegations were even made enough for FUNimation to fire him after what was essentially a kangaroo court. Mignogna has since gone through several rounds of legal action against a number of his co-workers and others in an effort to try and clear his name.
…Meanwhile, several individuals who had accused Mignogna were themselves outed as predators and criminals, such as one individual who was caught soliciting minors and another individual who had a criminal record for assaulting their ex-wife.
…And if that wasn’t bad enough, a series of audio recordings, images, and video recordings have surfaced indicating that contrary to the moral purity many of Mignogna’s accusers - and others at FUNimation - proclaimed in public they themselves often engaged in unprofessional and even lewd behavior on a regular basis, including a raunchy parody of one of the shows they have the license for.
Put it all together, and those people who know about FUNimation’s assorted scandals and incidents do not trust them anymore, and do not want to support a company that allows its employees to behave in such a fashion as has since been exposed. It’s to the point now that whenever FUNimation announces another license there’s a surge in traffic on pirate websites to get that show in its raw Japanese format. There is also reason to believe that their actions are on the minds of many Japanese studios and media companies, and that it’s part of why there has been a push to find new ways for these companies to deliver content directly to foreign audiences.
I started pirating because the legal sites didn't have uncensored versions of certain anime, like wtf am I paying for if you won't offer the anime in it's original form
Preach brother, for actual funny animes like Monster Girls and Highschool DxD the censoring is so annoying.
they are censored because is the tv aired version. The uncensored ones are on the Blu Rays
NoubyScrub what do you use???
@@somecomicnerd9575 Was using kissanime till they banned me for adblock lol
You wanted the sauce right?
Anime Industries after hearing about Crunchyroll be like:
"You guys are getting paid?"
aniwatch.me thank me later
@@araisdead
Thanks
@@araisdead holy shit thanks kissanime just got banned
I wish they would just make a steam like site where studios put their show where people can pay for a whole season like how people pay for blu-ray version
@@a_personperson9785I heard that 30 anime studios is releasing free anime content on a TH-cam channel named AnimeLog, but it has not released anything yet as of now
@@NicholasStanley They're apparently only releasing for Japan first, then China and the US is up next as far as I know. Hope they include Europe in that release, because I'd seriously even pay for TH-cam Premium or something to get that.
the main reason i dont get a subscription service is because ALL THE SHOWS I WANT TO WATCH ARE FUCKING REGION BLOCKED
Chyphix like boku no pico
the ones i like are owned by different companies so i would have to get a subscription to ALL THE FUCKING STREAMING SITES INCLUDING NETFLIX AND AMAZON and thats fucking stupid i would be paying like $100= every month just to watch one show on every site.
Why not get the one or two sites that appeal to you the most, and pirate what isn't on them? That'd at least be an improvement, from the industry's perspective, over just pirating everything.
Lookin at you, VRV. Puppycat whyyyy
primewire is your friend my good sir.
Here's another reason why piracy wins over legal streaming. SOMETIMES, OLD SHOWS ARE REMASTERED IN 1080P. In 2020, El Hazard was remastered for bluray. Is there any way to watch that version legally? Only if I bought the expensive Japanese Blu Rays, then downloaded subtitle files, ripped the blu rays, and did a crapload of muxing work. Imagine if Crunchyroll did an ad saying, "whenever a blu ray remaster of a dvd quality show we have is released, we will update our dvd quality videos with the blu ray quality video." That would at least be something.
That's illegal. They'd have to pay the company that remastered it, pay someone to sub it (or do what you said, use the existing subtitle file) and pay someone to look for remasters, or pay someone to make an ai that looks for remasters automatically. Either way, its a mega loss to them, for not a lot of potential.
For a good feature, it needs to be cheap to implement and provide clear potential. The problem is that these companies are horrible at recognizing the potential and hella low ball it. They dont see the value in "qol" features.
i own that expensive japanese blu-ray
Why most people outside of the US don't have a Crunchyroll Account? Because we don't even get 10% of the Content that people in the US get. Here in Germany for example we have no One Piece, no Dragonball, only half of the Naruto Episodes available. So people go to illegal sites. I use a VPN to get all the content but legally that's also a grey area and most people don't know what a VPN is.
Nina Felwitch its starting to look like it’s happening here in the US too, after Crunchyroll and Funimation teamed up almost all of the other streaming services completely dropped most of the anime that Funimation dubs, Netflix is the best example. Crunchyroll and Funimation have raised their prices in the last year or so because of their “exclusive content” and Netflix has been dropping tv shows nonstop that aren’t exclusive and raising prices, despite the fact that the majority of their customers only use their services to binge watch tv shows.
What do you expect from using an American streaming service? Obviously the U.S is going to get more shit
+lilpeoplez
Yup
www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cartel.asp
In some countries, neither of the anime streaming sites are available, here in Argentina, the only way to watch anime is from piracy or the small selection they have on netflix
What's stopping companies that're actually _in_ Germany (AnimeOnDemand?) from picking up those licenses instead? Why are North American businesses obligated to serve the entire globe?
Here's another idea, not only get rid of streaming rights, but have older anime on the streaming server and also DON'T MAKE THEM REGION LOCKED!!!!
I mean what the heck is the deal with that???
Literally every anime fan who wants to support the industry has that problem. Even though I use Crunchyroll, it doesn't have the shows which are there in Crunchyroll in the first place and thats because of what u said, REGION LOCK !
They can't actually do that because that's the studios decision it's like how Demon Slayer used to be on Japan before the UK
They don’t have a say in that, stop bullying the sites and bully the studios
_Bro I have never used crunchy roll in my entire life and I've been watching anime for a good 10 years_
Depressed Optimist same. Crunchy roll have become absolute cancer in the last 5 years
nice bro , i started watching anime in sites and i had some crunchy roll accounts got them free but i still prefer sites xD
been watching since emule was a thing
me too
ILoveBacklynx yah those sites are great , i appreciate the effort and quality from them
- Kissanime killed for no reason other than schmoney
- everyone who watched anime on the site wondering why crunchyroll charges for fucking beta features and other stupid shit
- "beta feature you can't complain"
- refuses to elaborate further
There’s still a lot of really good ones so… FUCK THE INDUSTRY.
Here's the thing...I don't WANT to pirate. But when the anime I want to watch are split between 5 different services, my choices are either not watch them, or pirate them. But why should I not get to enjoy myself because the streaming services are greedy, cheap, and lazy? Morals? I'm not murdering people, I'm watching cartoons.
I fucking love your username and pic. Just a side note, haha.
I agree so much, if I want to support a specific series I'll just consider buying It on DvD
Same, especially as I'm in college and can barely even afford one
Well, on one hand, they are immoral due to the way they treat their customers and thus you are equal to them. I guess.
Honestly, I don’t want to pirate and will look to YT first because it’s free and extensive. That said, there are plenty of shows I was interested in but can’t find here, at least not in English dub (fuck you, it’s my preference), so I look elsewhere from time to time, but rarely ever watch what is not on YT. Hence why I love RWBY.
1davey29 Vlogs I'm in college and I pay for Vrv and Netflix
Pornhub should start an anime streaming site, they have literally the best streaming service, you get 0 lag, videos load in a second... not that I'd know that, but you know, a friend told me...
Jason Bright
HentaiHub
I mean there ARE full anime episodes on pornhub, I jokingly looked up a few a long time ago.... Yea yesterday was quite awhile ago.
Rob D View N yeah I found one too like your, um, friend. Like all the episodes were there. It wasn't full on ecchi or anything either
Jason Bright, is your friend named Soiama Wanqa? Because if so they told me too.
You can stream all of Madoka magica in HD on Porn Hub no lie
*im having a way better time on an illegal anime app then i do on crunchyroll*
@@jollyd.joestar3937
Y E S
@100gg Did you even watch the video?
@100gg They make more money from Blu Rays than streaming like Crunchyroll but aight
Crunchyroll only has the big animes pirating has everything
100gg my poor ass can’t
Generally, licences are a problem for ALL streaming services
Why innovate if we're the only ones with The Office?
Why innovate if we're the only ones with One Piece?
Lmao the sponsorship prank rofl
seemed totally legit before "alljewsmustdie" lmfao
I would have preferred "AllNazisMustDie"
Pim Peccable b-but they are dead...
Unless you mean grammar nazis
Pim Peccable but that wouldn't be a joke.
the guy above me needs to go to stormfront or /pol/.
long live communism
But that ain't funny
"Exclusive license need to fucking die"
As a gamer I can't agree more
Though that most of the time works differently from licensing.
dakrol★ True but it still fucks the consumers regardless.
...As a person, I can't agree more...
Tell me some stories about the war grandpa
The M well exclusive are really only made because of exclusivity for example Sony wouldn't even fund a game if it wasn't for their gain so a lot of the exclusive games we got wouldn't even exist
The biggest problem i personaly have with Crunchyroll, Netflix and such is the fact how not all countries get to see everything.
Akross
The only way I can think of to bypass this, is to get a VPN that disguises your location.
I'm thinking about trying this myself, cause I am really sick and tired of this bullshit excuse of "Not available in your country".
Not sure why I even bothered getting a Premium CrunchyRoll account when I'm clearly not getting my money's worth.
Dawn Wayfinder you're not getting your money's worth and I'm pretty sure this is against the terms of service and might get your account banned or whatever (at least for Netflix it is). Simply pirating is a hundred times easier, as bad as that might sound
Yusuf Lulluf
How would my account get banned? The VPN, you mean?
Anyway, I've already cancelled my "premium" subscription.
Online region licensing needs to end. The Internet is global, it doesn't have geographical zones. I can't stream a show from Amazon, but I can buy the dvds from them and pay them to ship it halfway across the world. Something is wrong with this picture.
Dawn Wayfinder:
Netflix made it so if you use a VPN on their site, you're account has a red flag.
Streaming Service: "Give us your money, you'll support the industry"
Me who buys the manga and LNs of almost every anime I like: "Nah, I'm good"
I buy manga box sets, light novels, Japanese video games, and merchandise if it’s an anime series I really love like One Piece, so yes it seems that I somehow the anime/manga industry works more than shills that shill for Funimation and CrunchyRoll.
I have Netflix, and if something I want to watch is not on Netflix, I pirate it. Platform exclusivity is anti-competitive, so I don't consider piracy under these circumstances immoral or unethical. If they put their show on Netflix, then they'll get the money, I wouldn't care if the price increased slightly for a larger library - I just don't want to have multiple subscriptions.
fax
Fax you would never see my subscribing to Disney+
Agreed
same
Same
crunchyroll says that half their database is not available in my country, ffs i live in eu not in bloody uganda, and im paying the same price, fuck this shit
edit: i know how to get around it, good people, the point is i pay same price as americans, i pay for same service, crunchyroll does not highlight the difference, or the amount of shows im prevented from watching due to my location, its untransparent, and i consider it decieving
I second that, zero point in paying them to legally stream it if I need to use illegal get-arounds to do so in the process.
Use a VPN to make it think you're in the US 😉
while VPN might work, it does not change the fact that the businesses are providing hugely unattractive products...
Juzo juzo IKR
Juzo juzo 3
Whoa thanks for the shout out bud. Much appreciated and great vid!
I think I laughed more in this than I should've. And I guess I should add my two cents.
So ya. Everything you said I pretty much agree with. People say 'support the industry' but the industry's already been supported by the big corporations paying them big bucks for those exclusive licenses that are indeed hindering the streaming experience. I know some people will say we dont know that for sure without any financial statements or concrete data in your face stating exactly how much the industry has been paid. But take the subtle hints. Digibro just made a vid about how there's too much anime. Thats because the market has grown. You know why the market has grown, because demand has increased. And one of the most basic rules of economics is the laws of supply and demand. If the demand for a product or service goes up, the supply increases in order to keep up with demand. So you saw netflix saying 30 anime titles for next year, thats one platform out of three major ones that are throwing money at the industry to try to corner the market on anime streaming. As you said in the video and the only opinion I tried to convey in mine, was supporting a company or corporation that provides a poor services on the basis that 'it's right' is an easy way to encourage poor business practices and business models in the only market that can legally provide the medium we love.
K its 4 AM, and I work tmrw so I dont really have time to edit this right now. Thanks again though.
*thumbs up* No prob, thanks for the video that prompted me to make this one.
Uniquenameosaurus Alright just finished up my thoughts. It may be an incoherent mess but hopefully it makes sense.
Since you seem to know stuff like this, do you know if legal streaming actually has a moral argument?
IIRC I've heard that most studios earn they money either through dvd-sales or merch, so if you want to support the creators, shouldn't you rather watch fan-subs illegally, then buy dvds or merch as more of that money might go to the creators?
Ah I remember seeing your video. It was very good!
+ITR The thing with physical media (DVDs and such) is that none of the money goes to the creators upon purchasing the item.
I'll be using "StoreMart" as an example store front.
So you see a DVD in your local StoreMart or on StoreMart.com that means that the company (StoreMart) has already purchased some number of DVDs from a distributor, who in turn purchased the rights to distribute the DVD from the Licensor who purchased the the rights to license the DVD from the studio who created the product (or their parent company in most cases).
By the time it comes to you the consumer to purchase the product the creators have already been payed in full and the bill is sitting on the store front. They do not send the creators a check every time they sell a copy of the DVD, that money goes all to them.
What you are trying to do is:
A) Get the storefront to purchase more copies of the DVD. More copies being purchased on the retail end means more money going to the creators overall.
B) Convince the store front that products from the company are a good investment. If the DVD you buy sells a lot of other copies the store front will purchase more of the next DVD in the series hoping the trend will continue.
i like the visual pun of playing one piece in the background while talking about piracy
I know right
Wow, i didn't realise...
So which is one piece? The pirating or the subscriptions?
The anime in the background.
that mean we are the good one
Piracy can't be a sin!
Jesus pirated fish for a crowd,
we are simply doing God's work.
no
@@tsaescieokralho9841 foto do felipe neto ashauauahah
@Octopod Octopod r/woooosh?
How can we make do work on something that doesn't exist? :)
@Dogaojuiz r/woooosh?
If you pirate anime from the Caribbean, does that make you a pirate of the Caribbean?
oh snapple my apples if you pirate Pirates of the Caribbean in the Caribbean are you a pirate of Pirates in the Caribbean in the Caribbean?
well i live in the Caribbean and i pirate anime so i guess im a pirate of the Caribbean
smile hoya me too
Y'all just broke the world
Underrated
reasons why I pirate
a: free shit is fun
b: the best release of a show will always be the pirated version, subtitles will be better, encode will be better. many times the blu rays & streaming sites will have visual issues, and more experienced encoders will fix the source issue using filters. the typesetting in legal anime is abysmal compared to what some fansubbers can do.
All these excellent arguments aside: I generally feel that if they didn't want people to pirate stuff, maybe they should have given the practice a less cool name than "piracy." Seriously, who doesn't want to be a pirate?
Do what you want cuz' a pirate is free, you are a pirate !
ur not a one piece fan if u dont pirate
Watch Sam O'Nella's video on pirates. You don't.
Fervidor I sure don’t. Scurvy and spending life on a crappy ship doesn’t sound that too cool. Yes I know this is a joke btw
Navy
i would much rather spend money on a club penguin membership than a crunchyroll memberhip.
@@Raasheo thats the fucking joke he/she is saying that they would like to pay for something that dosent exist rather than paying for crunchyroll
@@Raasheo u r so dense
I'd say they're the same value
#bissonmickey
club penguin island*
Rip og CP
I have a Crunchyroll account, but I still pirate. Why? Because three fourths of the anime I want to watch aren't available in my country, since I don't live in the United States.
You can just use a VPN or a Google Chrome Extension to fix that in 5 minutes or less
VPN doesn't work well enough to some people.
just wear an eye patch and have your parrot say I give up and let's pirate it instead.
CR Unblocker, which is kind of a VPN Simulator works perfectly with 99% of systems, it's a Chrome Extension after all, and it's easy to use
That’s assuming this is a computer that is indeed up to date somewhat or even has the right programs for this. Which currently we don’t have a fucking clue. I got a gaming laptop but don’t have all the spectacular to run high end games.
Jacob FoxFires964 Did you just compare a browser plugin to a high end graphics intensive game?
In my case, I am a teen living in my parents' house and with their financial support. They don't like anime and I don't really have the money to get any of the anime specific streaming platforms so I really have no other option than pirating to wach anime
If you’re under 16 fine, but you could literally just work 1 day a month at a restaurant as a bus boy, cleaner, or intern whatever and you could buy 6-10 months of subscription.
@@wh3elson did you even watch the video
@@papasscooperiaworker3649 lol
aint no mf have time for those payed sites anyway
@@wh3elson
Imagine working JUST so you can give money to Sony
"This video is not suitable for most advertisers."
Calling it now.
I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter!! LOL not even a question
I still got an ad so he's still good for now. Real question though, how did Crunchyroll sponsor this video when he's actively telling people to unsubscribe from Crunchyroll?
Yeah...that part was a joke(he even does something in the end)
oops lol missed that last 5 secs, my bad.
utorrent could advertise this
If you have the money and want to support your fav anime just buy the DVD/blueray.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
Would have done it for Nichijou, but there's no Region B Blu Ray and there never will be; my PS4 is region locked. Can't find any DVD version, if I did it would almost 100% be region locked as well.
End of discussion, I'll pirate.
@Lenyo The first release of Nichijou came with both Blu-ray and DVD and if you have a computer with a Blu-ray or DVD drive and the open source VLC software on your computer you can play discs from any region
@Lieutenant Omg bro thank you so muchhhhhhhh!!
You said it.
I have bought entire series of some of my favourite manga and/or anime series, which means I can read or watch them at any time.
I'll never have to worry about them not being available online, I have something nice to look at, and I directly supported the creator of something I love. Win win.
Easy features I want from Crunchyroll:
No censorship
No censorship
Buffer bar
No censorship
Wider variety of shows constantly being updated
Featured partnered content creators
No censorship
Show recommendations based on how long you have been watching on the site (I.e. Veterans get veteran shows, newbies get newbie shows), interests, and MAL rankings
Recommended merch on each show page
And of course, no censorship.
I thought of these over the span of ten minutes.
so basically no censorship..?
I can't speak for all shows (mostly because I'm not actually sure which shows you're talking about) but I know that for JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - which is the only show on CR I watch with any noticeable amount of censoring - it's completely out of CR's hands.
In order to air the show on the same day it airs in Japan, they need to use the TV edit, which is heavily censored due to Japanese law.
that and a bunch of other things. not to be outdone by no censorship.
I would also like a feature that recommends not only based off genre but also themes and storylines. For example, you liked Dark Souls, maybe you'll like Spec Ops: the Line.
The censorship is due to them getting broadcast versions of the show which have to be censored in certain depending on when it airs by Japanese law. Also if there is an uncensored version that excise it’s usually an exclusive deal with a cable channel in Japan.
Finally, someone understands us “poor” weebs and why we use illegal sites
You don’t even have to be poor, you just have to have a working brain
You don't even have to be poor, you only need a common sense
Tbh yeah like why should I have to wait a week for a episode to come out and then another just to watch the episode for free WITH ads, it’s annoying
Tbh anime needs a "steam". Like i could pirate a game but steam is just SO much easier and simpler, no dodgy online, achievements, games linked to my profile etc.
There is. It's called Steam. They sell anime now, don't ya know? :^)
*"There is. It's called Steam. They sell anime now, don't ya know? :^)"*
This is still only streaming though. Allowing direct downloads seems to be more like what the OP is talking about. Allowing direct downloads would cut into piracies market share.
UndeadPorcupine they dont have a large selection tho~😓
There is always VRV which includes funimation and Crunchyroll subscription and a few more for as much as you'd pay for one.
Yeah, it needs a Steam that isn't Steam.
Pirated sites:
- free
- has all anime of the season
- get's all anime subbed withing 24h after japanese release
- advertisements
- run by people who loved anime since years
- aviable in all countries
Paid sites:
- you pay
- has only some of the anime of the season
- there is a delay in subbing or flat out the whole anime is released at once after the season is done...
- advertisements, but kinda less
- run by companies who did something else and now plan to milk the money out of anime
- not aviable in my country
Honestly even the moral argument is bad...
Bootleg streaming sites only get anime subbed within 24 hours of the Japanese release because they're re-encoding rips of legal streams. Yes, some sites like Amazon, Netflix, and Hulu are moving into the anime scene from outside, but CR, Funimation, and Hidive (an ADV/Sentai spinoff) have been anime-focused companies since their inception. If you're dissatisfied with North American companies providing insufficient service in your country, then maybe some company that's actually _in_ your country needs to pick up those licenses, assuming there's a viable paying audience present.
Viorp man that is one of the dumbest straw man arguments I have seen.
It's not. That's how capitalism works. If you want me to pay for your product, give me a product which is better than something that is free.
The thing that bugs me the most is that you have to pay to support the corporate privatization of anime translation rather than support the creators themselves. The "industry" of licensed anime providers was never needed and they just try to make money that benefits them rather than support the content itself. Some of the money goes into the Japanese content creators pockets, but the vast majority goes to supporting a terrible system that goes against fans. When they notice that fans like a product that is being translated they give the Cease and Desist letter to the Translators, that are usually not receiving any money, and give a inferior translation that comes out much later when your interest in a series has waned. YenPress and Cruchyroll are both very guilty of this. If they want my traffic they need a better business model. My personal recommendation for companies would be to have online translators work with a business in an easily accessible manner that is not overpriced. They would never do that though since their current model is giving them a profit.
TLDR; The "industry" doesn't deserve a dime. I love capitalism, but when I have a better alternative to your crap I will go with that. The moral argument isn't really moral unless there exists better competition.
Viorp let me like a list of your claims and that I feel are horrible examples and refute them in the style of your argument.
Pirated sites:
- free: Meaning that the creators get no money when you watch it there
- get's all anime subbed withing 24h after japanese release: Because they either steal it from crunchyroll or someone does it in their free time.
- advertisements: Yeah those horrible rabbithole clickbait ads the consume all of your bandwidth and ram which makes your watching experience horrible without an adblock.
- run by people who loved anime since years: True with torrenting but not true with streaming sites. Free anime streaming sites only care about ad money hence all the ads and they care far far less about you than anyone at crunchyroll. Hell they barley have any server cost because most of the videos a streamed through different sources.
- aviable in all countries- mostly true.
Paid sites:
- you pay: The creators get money yay
-- there is a delay in subbing or flat out the whole anime is released at once after the season is done: It takes time to sub something and you know that.
- run by companies who did something else and now plan to milk the money out of anime- yeah basically like free streaming sites except these sites actually give money to the anime industry
- not aviable in my country- you can use a vpn but it will take a lot of bandwidth
Apology for bad English.
“Excuse me, where were you when kissanime die?”
“I was at home, watching anime, when telephone ring”
“Kissanime is kill”
“No.”
I personally never used kissanime (because of the huge amounts of ads) but I do feel really sad that a big pirating site that has been on the internet for more than 10 years, just vanishes in a single day, but the good thing is that there are a lot of other amazing pirated sites that exist out there.
@@adammasterx5854 example
Raden Prasetyo the one that i use to solely watch anime is called twist .moe (there is no space actually but I just don’t want to link it because then TH-cam will delete my comment) it’s very good because it’s very high quality, no ads at all, and I also personally like the default dark mode on the website and there is even a live chat on the left of your screen if you want to talk to people(you can switch off, of course). The only reason people might not like about twist would probably be either the facts that there is no dub(of course, nearly everyone uses sub, but I’m just saying that people who watch dub might not like it) or that the speed is sometimes a little slow( it might take a while to load if you don’t have good internet but other than that it’s a pretty good website)
@@adammasterx5854 thanks man
Also I'm a sub user so that wouldn't be an issue
@@adammasterx5854 Oh shit that sounds really cool, I've personally been using 9anime but this sounds a lot better
omg, this aged like a 19th century wine.
I'd rather donate to the authors directly
Rigamortis im too broke for that
why do you think kick starters and patron are very popular now, you mean you can use that for literally anything i even supported indie games that were HUGE hits and some indie shows that still hits it big. there are occasional flops but its better than not knowing where exactly my money is going.
no, you will never donated to anyone directly . People who don't buy or use resources legally, never "donate" to the authors directly.
It's like: Oh, i really like this game, can't wait for this. Oh boy, i really excited, i play ALOT of games , why you never make what i want.
This is why anime you want never gonna be released. You will never paying for them
You should install the Grammarly plugin, it would make your comments slightly less painful to view
Wouldn't help the idiocy tho, just the atrocious grammar.
Please tell us how much you've donated to the authors directly, you goddamn saint.
#Pirate4Lyfe
I definitely -don’t- use illegal streaming sites
blvckraikage same
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And seriously..... Convenience is by far the biggest reason I do so.
waw it's like piracy is competition for digital rights management sharing is caring I ges
; ) same
There's a few reasons why I don't use a subscription based streaming service for my anime, but the most important issue for me is the fact that I can't access 90% of their content in my region. VRV doesn't offer their services in Scandinavia; In fact I only have access to Crunchyroll (with a sub-par selection of both anime- and manga, even when compared to other Crunchyroll regions). Why should I pay the same price as other customers without getting the same amount- and quality of content? I would gladly stop pirating anime and manga if I had an affordable means of accessing more than just a fraction of the content that I'm interested in.
thank you.
@Dan Exactly! I tried Crunchyroll trial subscription (and resigned) and every few days they are sending me email like "join us now and watch Boku no Hero Academia & Overlord" which is frustrating, because these are shows I wanted to see and they are unavailable in Poland. It's like they're rubbing salt in the wound :/
same in Austria only subscribed for MHA & Overlord and both are not available
Yeah this is a big issue
And I tried using a VPN and it worked for a while but they’ve seemed to block its use now
It’s amazing to realize that things have gotten so much worse since this video came out. The monopolization that has occurred is going to make things like 10+ years ago.
Wouldn't monopolization, i.e. Funimation shutting down and leaving CR with >90% of each season's anime, be a step in the _right_ direction? UNS even says, "A monopoly would be preferable to what we have now."
Another huge issue is the fact that most streaming services aren't available in places outside of America. Crunchyroll has like five anime available in my region and if I wanted to watch a show that I want then I'd have to use a vpn. In that case, why even bother?
The idea of regionlocking is completley obsolete.
I couldn't agree more
I wanted to watch MHA on Crunchyroll because I am a good boy but no, I just can't, I have to go a site that makes you pay if you want to watch an episode after the week of its release (so it's the opposite of Crunchyroll and much much worst in that aspect)
This is fucking stupid
Look up CR-Unblocker, it's a Chrome extension that let's you watch stuff from the US region without having to use a VPN.
Vokoca I use Opera's built-in VPN. Does the extension block ads?
Taku Notoda It doesn't, but you could probably combine it with something that does? Never looked into it myself.
How's the speed with a VPN, by the way?
Anyme is actually an illegal streaming app that connects with all the main anime piracy sites and connects with myanimelist
I know I'm pretty late on this but it's a good product
Where do you download it?
@@nickkahriman174 just look it up on Google
Product? Do you pay for it?
@@Sir_Billions no
Wow thank you for commenting this. The app is amazing
If it wasn't for those sites where you can watch anime for free. Then anime wouldn't have been this popular as it is today.
What good does that popularity do if it's only benefiting those who run bootleg streaming sites?
The anime industry is still going to benefit making anime whether you're supporting them through paying to watch their series online or not. It doesn't need us. Like he explained in the video. It's a massive industry. Which is why we see anime just increasing. If I wasn't correct then there wouldn't have been allot of anime been produced since those "bootleg streaming sites" were created until now, as you see now. Instead, we would see allot less anime made because of it. But no that isn't the case.
You'd better hope Japanese anime fans don't watch this video, then. They don't have a service that's as cheap or comprehensive as KA, yet they pay far more than we do.
@@Zalis116 at least they have access to all the anime they want to watch and not being denied due to licensing issues
@@Zalis116 Well, if the bootleg site is the perfect streaming site, then why not buy the site and pay the people who made the site? Obviously they did a better job and they can get around using only ad-revenue. There are a lot of streaming sites that have 1 downside: ads. Buying the site, would remove the ads and pretty much have a perfectly streaming site.
Who's here after Crunchyroll declared that they're ending free ad-supported streaming this spring?
I'm here after Netflix announced that they're charging people more for password sharing. Unique sure was right by saying that streaming sites would be forced to innovate.
@@somebonehead By "innovate," he means cutting costs and corners while raising prices for increased profits every year on otherwise finite resources, a result of unchecked late-stage capitalism
@@AkameGaKillfan777 I know, I was being sarcastic.
@@somebonehead Me too, just wanted to make the reply, no worries.
I love finding that one guy in comment section treating people like scum or murdeerers because we pirate a movie or anime.
We? Don't include me in it. Wow, those who break the law are scum...
But those who pirate anime are worse than scum! ()
top 10 anime accounts thanks, i've been waiting a month for a single 'haha'
@@playfulattire8819 Here's another one. Hahaha.
Supporters spit on the franchise while giving money to human rights violators!
You pirates are scums and are worse than murderers
(Taken from sarcasm's facebook page
Crunchyroll is horrible compared to the most basic of pirating sites
what’s a good one?
Animixplay
@@terkeyjah8150 animixplay
I recommend simplyaweeb or smth
As someone who started watching anime back when "fansub" meant a bootleg VHS with yellow translation text, I think it's funny that people seem to have forgotten how expensive and unavailable anime used to be. The reality is that in the 90's and for a part the 00's certain anime were just totally unavailable unless you pirated. This was also during a time when actual licensed anime was released overseas at insane costs (anyone who disagrees should be pointed to the MSRP $200 Trigun box set from 2001 that I own).
What's happened to anime is pretty similar to what happened to the music industry. Years of overcharging the consumer have backfired as a result of instant availability.
Nowadays a box set is $30 roughly but kids these days have no clue how bad it used to be.
luchaclone57 unlike music, movie/anime/tv show industry has one huge issue. Region lock. I have a netflix account and crunchyroll and i dont get half of their shows. Why? Because i live in certain spot on the globe and somebody here, who doesnt even use it, have a license for those show, probably in bad dub in which i am not interested. Unless we get service on the level of spotify or apple music, this industry will be shit
luchaclone57 in Australia for a 1-97 box set for one piece its 200$ thats 2$ a ep what a rip
Believe it or not region locking is in everything...
TH-cam has region locking, iTunes has region locking, Spotify has region locking. It's just not quite as abhorrent as Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon.
I mean shit, you could buy a DVD box set and not have it work in your country because of region locking.
umm, but in One Piece case, it is quantity over quality. Old One Piece was fine but as it progressed the pacing became worse and then time skip the animation and art got worse. Literally, those 97episodes could be condensed to 40-60 episodes and make no difference. Past one piece at least 1st arc was 2 chapters per episode but they stop that long time ago. You rather buy the box set for one piece that cost about 150-160 Aud in bookdespoitory while covering two huge arcs East Blue and Alabasta that contains 23volumes. Also with that 200 dollars, only 1 big arc is cover and some small arcs. I think the jojo is a good example on how to do it, you have a complete story by buying it in a reasonable price plus the blue ray improves the art and animation of the actual content.
Yeah I really don't miss those days.
Some box sets for the series I own I paid 150-200+ for. This is just for a 25 episode shows. Some box sets were 8 episodes for 60+. Also used to get them from Canada from all places bootleg.
I've always doubted how much I'm supporting the creators of the anime when i use a streaming site
Its like 8 dollars a month and I'll watch like 3 to 8 shows. Crunchyroll takes a cut so how much of that actually goes to the people behind the show.
ive been watching anime for 9 years now, almost turning 21. When i was a kid i pirated because a kid doesnt just take €100 out of his ass to get a year's worth of subscription. Then college started, long hours and long days, along with a shitty paid evening job. But guess what? still have to pirate because college costs money (and i dont want to be ''That guy'' with 20k debts when graduating). I'm in the last year of college, with a great intern making good money for my age, so time to get my first legal subscription. And then this video comes in... Wait, what? You cant watch every anime with one streaming service? That's bullshit! So off i go pirating again...
Randy Gérard Arrrr my friend
Randy Gérard when you go black, you never go back ( black as in black flag )
Well, they do say that Black Flag was the best in the series.
Except for the diving bell parts, those were utter BS.
Randy Gérard Everyone is "that guy" you fool. And I'm starting to doubt you're even college age. Debt that high is unheard of in EU. and if you DO go to a school where tuition is that high in EU then you come from a rich family.
Piracy is pretty much the reason spotify exists tbh.
WinkingBaby and it worked, spotify is godlike + you can find anything
Except Spotify only exists in select countries
Yeah, it's still available in a ton of countries though. Just pirate your music if you can't get it in your country lol.
@Ser actually no you can't. There are Bands I listen to where tons of Albums are missing.
Artist/Labels "upload" their songs themselves, not spotify's fault
Its sad that 2 years later this still pretty much stands
And this applies to ALL entertainment media involving exclusive licensing, now more than ever. With the entirety of the movie and TV industry sliced up like it is, there is no way for someone to access the content they want, without subscribing to several services. I'd really like to see a broader video on that, because its a fucking disaster. Platforms literally only differ in terms of what shows they have, not how high the quality of service is. The content is not the service, and so to compete using the content not the service, is not just wrong, its more, way more than wrong. As it stands now, the only thing standing in front of EVERYONE in the visual media space making an absolute killing, is the market being split up like it is. If every platform, from Netflix to Amazon, from Crunchyroll to Anime Strike or what the hell ever the current equivalent was, carried ALL the content appropriate to that platform, and the only choice was where to watch it, EVERY show would get more views and if the licenses were worked out properly, not exclusively, then every view would result in financial gain for the studios, actors, voice actors, special effects artists, illustrators, directors and everyone else involved in actually making the shows we want to watch, because there would be a greater number of eyeballs with access to the content in question. Its a no brainer, a win win. With things as they are, platforms limit the access to the content they purchase control over, limiting how successful each IP can be while under their ownership or licensed control, and that is demonstrably bad for those IPs and the potential viewers. How do I know? If I could watch The Boys on the platform I am actually subscribed to, I would. I can't, so I won't. If I could watch The Mandalorian on a service I am already subscribed to, I would. It isn't, so I won't. The same thing applies to anime content. If the creators want bums in seats and eyes glued to screens, they need to stop handing out exclusive licenses to distributors, and only offer non exclusive agreements to prospective distributors, it really is that simple.
@@peteredwards2318 it’s a damn shame this long ass paragraph got no replies, you fought hard soldier
@@ragingbox3843 I can't tell if you're mad that they got rightfully passionate lol
Now 4 years.
it [STANDO]
Lmao anyone here after the original video got taken down by a company lol
Region locking is cancer. In Germany, only a tiny fraction of the shows is available. Meanwhile, US-americans have access to nearly everything.
Still a sufficient amount of shows. Imo 40€ per year (cheapest premium option) is not much money for so far over 300 shows.
But I agree that it's quite frustrating to see that more than 2/3 of your plan to watch list is available in the US but less than 1/4 in Germany.
MURICA... just watch kissanime or gogoanime lol
if it still don’t work, use a vpn
Rajin90 tbh, thats actually not entirely the makers fault, its germany weird,tough and strict censorship laws. almost every content makers wants to spread the content they are developing, hence more money coming in for them.
40 bucks per year may not be like super expensive, especially for 300 shows, but the thing is, i don't give a single fuck about most of these 300 shows. In case of seasonal anime, if i find like 2-3 interesting in total, then that's amazing and once i am done with them what else am i supposed to do? It's like paying 40 bucks for 36 episodes in total, unless one anime has 24 episodes, but that happens rarely in my case, and while it may still seem like a fair deal, for me it completely is not, i am a broke ass student, 40 bucks is half the cost of cheapest rent possible in my city in mediocre conditions per month, while i have like around 400 bucks to manage the rent, costs of food, public transport and pay water/electric bills. 40 bucks from me is a huge commitment and if i were to actually make it, the service would have to be impeccable, with all the anime i want to watch and without this bullshit "this series is not available in your region". Paying 40$ for 2-3 seasonal anime or even let's say 10 series per year would not be worth it at all, especially when legal streaming offers no improvements compared to pirating.
i'm in germany too, i would pay for the us crunchyroll, but the anime present on the list is so shit
This is an amazing One Piece review. I completely agree with all your points. Very well made video.
Hello I wanna see you fly
Underrated
This is a continuation of that "deaf person" joke
@@killme2675 exactly LMAO
Lmao
The "support the industry" argument is now null and void with Crunchyroll stealing their money to do non-anime stuff.
Let me know when actual Japanese companies start suing CR for breach of contract.
Yeah that's not how anything works...
Oh no, crunchyroll spent their money on something instead of giving 100% of the money to other people. The horror(?). Is there an actual report that said the licensing fees paid to Japanese companies were in some way violated by the fact that CR put some of their own revenue into a new show of their own?
if you mean their shitty own anime, its bad but not a bad thing. it could help to breach the cultural barrier of anime. imagine a western anime. same style, Japanese voice actors and such but with an own western mark on them. and now imagine it not sucking. THAT WOULD BE AMAZING! and at one point we will be there even with some of these shitty shows
@@DandeDingus It could, except for that to happen it needs to be *not absolute fucking garbage*
"The world has entered the Great Pirate Era!"
Good one!!
Yet Crunchyroll and other streaming sites still haven't changed despite the fact that so many videos have been made on how pirating is better than the actual streaming services.
It's almost as if there are actual financial and legal barriers preventing them from implementing the demanded changes, as opposed to the "greed and laziness because exclusives" theory.
@Izan TechnoMaster The basic answer to "why go with legal ones?" is "Because you like anime and want to continue seeing it being produced at a high level and translated on a timely basis." Less money in the system = fewer titles being made and lower budgets; legal sites shutting down = say goodbye to the status quo of nearly everything getting adequate same-day translations. The industry's continued health is in every anime fan's self-interest -- if you don't want to contribute, you're gambling that other people's money is going to keep the industry alive and vibrant for you. And as we saw with the crash of the late 2000s, that gamble doesn't always pay off.
I'm not saying that you or anyone else has to watch everything 100% legally, but surely there's a middle ground between "pay for everything" and "pay for nothing" -- a compromise that sustains the industry while not damaging viewers' wallets all that much.
Besides, how are legal sites supposed to get "objectively better" than bootleg sites, anyway? By paying people to watch? Even if exclusivity and region locks went away tomorrow, they couldn't have a better selection or better translations (since bootleg sites just rip from legal sites), and the vast majority of pirates is already fine with watching the same level or worse video quality than what legal sites offer. There is no magical player/UI/service feature that legal sites can implement, but that bootleg sites cannot. Even if there were, how are legal sites supposed to find and develop it if they're constantly getting kneecapped by piracy in the guise of "consumer" "boycotts" and barely have enough money to keep the lights on?
@@Zalis116 Unique already countered this point so I'll sum it up quite quickly for yah. All these streaming sites aren't dumb enough to just let themselves die, if the quality lowers because the companies didn't listen to the demands of boycotts, then someone else would come along who actually does listen and they'll gain the fortunes while the rest die. That's his entire point, all these sites are doing is just sabotaging each other and people are supporting because it's the "moral" thing to do.
@@lazypayday4476 First off, piracy is not a boycott, because pirates are still receiving the product made by the company, and benefiting from that company's labor and resources. Real boycotts from real consumers send a message of "I object to your company's practices, and I am willing to give up the pleasure/utility I get from your product until you change them." Phony boycotts from pirates only send the message, "I want this, but I want other people's money to pay for it."
We _have_ seen anime distribution companies scale back and die in the past (c. 2007-08, and before the financial crisis too) when they weren't making enough money, so it absolutely can happen again. And they don't need to be run completely into the ground to go bust either; things just have to reach a tipping point where it doesn't make sense to soldier on anymore. Companies cannot meet UNS' impossible demands, so the logical result of a sufficiently "large number" of people adopting his mindset is, in fact, a collapse. Believing in some savior enterprise rising phoenix-like from the ashes, if the current industry gets burnt to a crisp, is nothing more than dangerous magical thinking. Even the most innovative new company cannot forge the necessary relationships with Japanese licensors overnight, especially if the latter come to see foreign markets as a wasteland of incorrigible pirates. It would take years for any new startup (which would be limited by the same constraints as existing companies) to get out of the gate, and by that time anime viewers would feel so accustomed and entitled to free stuff that it wouldn't stand a chance.
@@Zalis116 It's not though, and would make no difference between a full on boycott and having nothing at all. First off, it's unrealistic for all the companies to die from it in the first place, for each of them to ignore the boycott until their deaths is magical thinking itself. Even in the event that all the companies died, the new company that would take their place (which is extremely unlikely to take years to happen, it's a business, as long as there's money to be gained, the studios won't mind giving their licenses out to a new company) would only have to be superior to those that died to get the pirates to come back. The charity was the proof for this. The difference between normal piracy and the boycott is that the boycott is against the sites and their desire to fight over exclusive rights instead of improving themselves, a company who doesn't act like this and instead listens to the community will gain the reaches they desire. If the new company has more to offer than the pirating ones, with a good reputation on top of that (like actually listening to the community, and innovating even without competitors), then the chances of everyone just continuing to pirate is slim to none.
If y'all do want to support the industry, buy your favorite anime's merch.
If ya got no extra money, spread memes about it. It may reach a person with expendable cash who might find the anime, fall in love, and buy the merch.
Boom, you just supported the industry, better than you would if you bought Crunchyroll.
@100gg The ads dont do anything for the actual anime, ad money goes straight to CR
exactly what i do.
I got into anime because of my favorite YTPer Hurricoaster. So community driven content always benefits the industry over cold business practices.
if you want to support the anime industry
buy the blurays instead
if you want to support the author
buy the source material, the original light novel or manga, authors don't receive royalties from licenses but sales of the books does.
Vancroz Where do you watch ? Kissanime? Im searching for a good site.
Xander I don't do streaming
I download them from animeout or nyaa torrent
Xander The sites i use for streaming are Kissanime (for uncensored stuff) and gogoanime. generally, if one doesn't have something, the other does.
Thank you!
@Xander animefreak.tv is also a good one
"You need to support the industry!!!" If someone were selling horseshit and donating the money to a charity, would you buy it?
I loved the comparison XD
I'd ask if I can just give my money directly to said charity.
DO WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE, YOU ARE A PIRATE
YAR HAR A FIDDLE-DEE-DEE
It is August 2020, Kissanime just died
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For us, the Spanish speaking people, piracy is frickin tradition. It's something we have to do, not only because the anime industry and streaming sites almost doesn't care about us, but also because fansubing is one of our ways to pay our respects to the anime we love.
razgriz magi As a bilingual with Spanish in it, I respect your opinion!
Here in Brazil is just as bad for sites like Crunchyroll. We also have legions of fansubbers doing it out of love for anime, we get a lot of blocked content and we have absolutely no sense of morals against piracy (like many other things). So their half-assed work is nothing but incentive for us to continue pirating anime. I even disable Adblock even though my favorite site doesn't force me to.
No solo eso. Las traducciones oficiales al español suelen ser hechas con mucha pereza y sin amor. Quedan mucho mejor las traducciones hechas por fans que las oficiales.
Inclusive, los fansub no se cortan con el lenguaje. Ellos si meten el picante dónde debe ir.
Same in australia. Convict blood makes us pirate
"YOU'LL NEVER GET A CENT OUT OF ME"
- Eugene Krabs
I pirate so much I've found the one piece.
Slums is that Felix the fucking cat as your pfp? Holy shit man, the nostalgia
Gaganpreet708 yea it is! Funny thing is I’m only 18. Guess great things really don’t die out
Slums yup, 17 here myself. That show was great
Kinda like one peice.
allain siru glad you understand the reference
the fake sponsorship made me laugh
thx fo' spoiling the joke. Gfy
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Dr Cyan well I at least agree. That was freaking hilarious!
loli_ cvnt watch the video first before the comment you fish
Wealth, fame, power. The man who had acquired everything in the world, the TH-cam king, Uniquenameosaurus. The final words that were said at his execution sent the people to the seas.
Uniquenameosaurus: "You should pirate anime."
Men now, chasing their anime, head towards the Internet. The world now enters a Great Age of Pirates!
underrated comment right here. 10/10
And who will be the man who believed impossible was just a word, and discover everything there is to discover in the world, and been to its innermost depths?! He won't stop there!
this was the event that caused the age of the pirates, when sites offering free anime boosted and had to fight to live, this is the story of kissanime, a young site with big dreams, and his journey to become the best site
Kissanime: One day, i'm gonna be the king of the anime pirates!
*theme from around the underwater arc after the timeskip plays*
This comment is *Gol D* Roger.
You forget the fact that if you use adblocker with the pirating site it is leaps better than any legal streaming site
I recently bought premium for Crunchyroll so that I could watch OP and MHA only to find out that I can't watch them via Crunchyroll in my country.. Feels bad man..
They are available on hulu and netflix.
Try a Geo location VPN.
Thats the point , why would u have to use a vpn when u went as far as to pay for the service... And now you have to stand bs ... What is this ... Are they thinking that they are providing alms to the famine striken people
No , if i see a fancy restaurant who doesnt give me a table and treats me after two hours , i will not go there again i will settle for street food even if it makes me a little ill
U got Bamboozled
subhrajit TIS exactly I live in Jamaica and I wanted to try CR I did the free trial premium thing I liked it for a while then I realized I can't watch half the shows because I live in Jamaica and people want me to pay for shit service like that not a rass
Fun fact: KissAnime has an extension called "Essentials for KissAnime" which DOES let you link your MAL account, as well as customize the webpage background, colors, etc.
And it's probably fan made? Jesus christ I'll just never pay any of them a cent nor watch ads, unless I'll order something from japan
Bogdan Bogdanoff
Essentials of Kissanime is a free chrome add on...
I figured that much out.
Yeah, by extension I meant a browser extension, just to be clear.
Ɉøħŋ Ä. Kissanime and Kimcartoon is great man shit
I cancelled my crunchyroll subscription because of the quality of the subtitles. I was trying to watch future diary and they only subbed what the characters were saying, not anything on the screen or any kinda writing on the walls, this really bothered me because if you've ever seen future diary, you kinda need to know what's on their phone screens or you'll have no idea what the hell is going on. this is with every show, the pirated fansubs are usually way better and more accurate than the "professional subtitles" crunchyroll has
Problem is that a lot of fansubbers have a really bad habit of stroking their dicks. They tend to basically not think when translating nouns, blindly throwing around honorifics, and seem to have a hard-on for ADHD unfriendly karaoke subs for songs. One Piece fansubs are absolute fucking garbage for example, with the Pokemon anime fansubs coming in close behind.
Fansubs tend to do almost no research whatsoever, and people just eat it up because they think they know everything.
SPTK Sun I miss song subs... crunchyroll doesn't do them anymore.
+SPTK Sun It's a shame, really... It's only natural that stuff done by amateurs in their spare time for free wouldn't be great that often. People do give it more slack than it probably should get, but that goes back to those "amateurs in their spare time for free" thing, along with a bit of desperation in some cases in regards to anything that's obscure.
It is nice when a fan thing has a great translation though; the two that I can think of off the top of my head were done by professionals in their spare time though, with those two being the Mother 3 translation and the Sailor Moon manga. Amazingly, the official print of it read like a bad fansub, especially the first edition, while the fansub seemed actually professional...
It's kind of sad how bad official subs can be sometimes, though that goes back to what is essentially dubbing houses realizing that they could easily pander to weeaboos with lazy translations that kept parts of in the original language.
Ikr so many *problems*
I sure do love watching the Pokemon anime with the Japanese names of Pokemon! /s
Now Crunchyroll is removing the ability to watch shows for free with ads starting with the next season. Bruh
(Longish rant)
To be bluntly honest, I want to actually see what my subscription would _really_ do for the anime industry. Open up the books and let me see just how much of what I pay _actually goes_ to any of the animation studios I want to support. Because here's the rub; I bet it's a pittance at best.
I would be genuinely impressed if even 10% of Crunchyroll's revenue goes to studios. I've seen enough of the dark side of US business to hold serious cynicism regarding how much good CR _really_ does for the people actually slaving away in often hellish conditions to make the anime I would pay CR for the privilege of accessing. And so I can't help but hold this in the back of my mind, as people repeatedly insist that paying for CR as opposed to just using Kiss is the "moral" thing to do. _Is it?_ Can we _really_ be so sure what we pay truly reflects what the industry gets? Without those opened books I mentioned before, we really can't just take CR's word for it, and I shouldn't have to explain why large corporations should not be blindly trusted.
So that's the problem I have with piracy shaming. In addition to the many other legitimate reasons that already exist for pirating (lack of access due to country restrictions, lack of disposable income to afford it, outright not even having the shows you want to watch in the first place, and so on), we really need to stop pretending like we objectively know it hurts the industry. Whatever my $7/mo equates to for, say, Kyoto Animation, is very likely pennies on the dollar; I'll even boldly wager the actual staff that _made_ the show I love will ever see a single cent of what I paid.
So how can we honestly argue that people shouldn't pirate, when we can't even prove that there's a difference in the first place? If I want to watch Violet Evergarden (which I will), and neither pirating _nor_ paying for Crunchyroll is actually giving KyoAni any meaningful money, what's the fucking point of paying? Because this video aptly highlights the myriad of ways those $7 per month will be getting me a _worse_ experience, from a company very clearly content to sit on its laurels.
In fairness, though, this video isn't like the one Mother's Basement did on the subject. That video is downright offensive, having someone who is literally _funded by Crunchyroll_ morally lecture me on why using Crunchyroll is the only "moral" option, while having, again, no proof that it makes a damn difference.
To be clear, I *_DO_* want to support the anime industry, but I want to support it by doing something that will actually work; something that will actually put money in the hands of the people who _make_ the anime (as in, the actual staff) I care about.
Masae I feel like most the money CR makes well the percent you stated doesn't even go to animators at all but the actually companies. Like Toei, Bones, A1-Pictures, ect. Like the bosses and staff that runs the studios.
So one of the things that i remember mothers basement going on about in his video was this project to give animators better living conditions. I went and looked it up and maybe it's something for you. www.generosity.com/fundraising/2017-animator-dormitory-project
That's what Patreon did for youtubers: provided a way for the content consumer to directly pay the content creator. The business models of the anime and streaming industry need to change a lot for a more direct connection between creators and consumers becomes feasible.
Masae Crunchyroll doesn't make anime nor are they involved in it's creation. What they do provide is proof to the Japanese anime industry that the western market is a wide enough market that they should give up some of the rights to the intellectual property to the service in order to widen the marketability.
I think people are forgetting what Crunchyroll, Funimation, etc are. They are the middle men. Funimation is more involved so I'll keep them out of it since they offer a product of their own, but without the Crunchyroll's and Netflix's showing interest in the industry, the west likely wouldn't be able to have nearly as much access to what we have now. I mean fan subs are fine and all, but if you really have a hard on about supporting the animators, you'd have to fork over hundreds for imported blue Ray's that, once again, you'd have to find a fan sub of since you don't speak Japanese. Now, the Japanese industry could broaden to make better stuff for the western market, but that's unlikely because why would they? That's a giant risk. The Japanese industry is being held up by what the mobile game industry refers to as "whales", or people who pay out the ass for the stuff their into. Buying the expensive merch, the Blu-rays, and the publications. The industry doesn't have a great position to expand and in a world where everyone in the west has to pirate so not only do they not know how much of a demand there is but likely, they'd view the western market as a lost cause or an enemy of sorts. Even if you were to try to rally the western market of that world to by from the Japanese sources (since they are directly responsible for the making of the anime), it's doubtful that they'd give up piracy for a way more expensive experience that could even be less convenient.
There are way more than moral reasons to support these sites but by all means, if a better one shows up, support it. Just a heads up though, I've never had to pirate an anime I wanted to watch. The only time I've really felt compelled to is with Evangelion, but I just hated the website and left after my security software went haywire (so like 2 minutes). Also, I have 3 places to watch anime legally (Crunchyroll, Vrv, and Hulu), and I haven't had any problems with any of them recently. Vrv is new so I give it a decent amount of slack but I consider it quality enough.
Masae for me personally i donate 10 a month directly to funimation and dont go through all the 3rd partys cause 3rd partys dont give shit to who u want to donate to for example u could donate to a hospital or u can donate to the random person that called saying they will donate ur donation to the hospital which sounds like a better choice? Id rather donate directly to the people making anime or in this case im pretty sure they only dub and sub anime and maybe a little work on animation rather than hope crunchy roll will give the money like they say they will so i pirate and dontate directly so if u wanna help the industry try doing that instead
Wait a second... Was this Pewdiepies new Crunchyroll sponsorship?
Yes, dont forget to suscribe to Keemstar while you are it
Mmm funny jok
Wormy Nice meme.
OMG that was literally the first thing I thought of when I saw it!
vince94 grumps Yoda ha
Not to talk about local licensing, for example here in Europe you can’t get all the animes that are in the U.S on Crunchyroll. Even if you buy Crunchyroll premium you can’t get them wich shows how stupid anime licensing is.
Maybe companies that're actually IN Europe need to pick up those licenses, instead of everyone relying on CR and other North American companies to service the entire globe.
Yeah, Crunchyroll for example need to buy liscensing for different regions and that's why you can or can't get certain animes in your region.
CR-unblocker chrome extension?
RaZerGamerMan Yeah but that doesn’t work if you’re on a mobile device!
Why, tho? Regional content lock is a fucking ridiculous and i can't see ANY reasons why digital/internet license should be locked to a particular region.
One small nit pick; a lot of the arguments for "supporting the industry" were referring to the anime industry, not the streaming one.
It's the studios that make the anime that needed the money because for a long time their ability to make money was incredibly poor unless it's a huge name like Miyazaki or Mad House.
But you're absolutely correct about the rest of the video, streaming services can and should do better.
Honestly, I wish that they all the animation companies would realize this and create their own service with every one of their works on it, plus manga in their completion. So many fans would pay money for that! If they made it $10 a month the industry would make millions, heck, maybe even billions.
Yessss thank you!
Am i the only one who feels like Japan's Anime Industry is either lazy or terribly incompetent?
Anime is one of the most popular and loved series to watch for people of all ages around the world. Even adults (Seinen anime). Yet, instead of capitalizing of the insane popularity for anime, something ONLY JAPAN can make, by launching their OWN streaming service that DIRECTLY supports the japanese anime industry, Japan is happy with the lousy one time lisence premium and menial royalties that they currently get from AMERICAN streaming services that steal more than 50% of the income. Come on! What does crunchyroll do? Only STREAM anine to a wider audience. The story is made by the japanese, the animation is made my the japanese, the beloved voice acting is done by the japanese, and yet, more than 50% of the income from these japanese works go to the americans. Why? Because japan can't be bothered to realize a golden business opportunity that only they have. Correct me if i'm wrong, but the international anime commumity would hapily subscribe to a japanese streaming service, purely knowing that ALL the money they're paying is going into the pockets of the people that actualy made our beloved shows. This is not even considering how japan owning their own streaming service would allow them to bring in so many unique innovations that crunchyroll or funimation never could, because they're a forign company.
I feel japan is ruining their own industry by being so lax and giving away money to americans like their blood sweat and tears are a charity for americans to exploit. And they wonder why the poor anine industry is suffering despite half the world watching more anime than any crap that comes out of hollywood. All the while crunchyroll is stuffing their pockets with millions they didn't do anything to earn, except sign a piece of paper that agrees to pay japan a couple thousand dollars for one time lisencing.
@@blurryface3619 the thing is anime studios are actually barely breaking even, in japan its still a niche market. Plus that means they have to put more money into maintenance,its a great idea but i doubt the companies care enough
that would just create a lot of fragmentation, what if i like a lot of shows from all of them, i don't want to pay for a lot of services to watch 2 shows from each one of them, this is why streaming services like Netflix got created in the first place
That's stupid. It would be exactly like what's currently happening with western shows and movies where you have to pay for 10 different streaming services from every publisher just to watch everything you like.
There are already Legal Anime Channels that stream Anime series ON TH-cam!
One being Muse Asia and Ani One, there's already a Japanese TH-cam channel that is releasing Anime from 70s(currently) to modern anime(not yet released).
Every anime watcher: I would buy buttt I’m poor
Every anime watcher outside of the states: i would buy but they dont have any fcking shows
Yonko Habonita Facts
Kaltopia Use a VPN like I do for Netflix
@@kaltopia7925 fax
@@anapaulapedro7025 why pay again for something you already paid for.
so let's see. A company that wants us to buy they're stuff's main argument for us buying their stuff is: "BUY OUR STUFF OR YOU'RE A BAD PERSON" instead of providing actual things that consumers want.
in the words of Neo from the matrix: Wow, that sounds like a pretty good deal, but I think I have a better one: how about I give you the finger.
It is not possible to provide the things that anime "consumers" want (i.e. "stream and download every anime ever for next to nothing") without losing money.
that's not the consumer's problem.
You're not talking about consumers here. Consumers either pay for a product/service, or go without. Once people start obtaining those goods/services without paying for them, they become something else. This whole "boycotting by piracy!" nonsense is not an economic action by consumers; it is hostage-takers demanding the perfect getaway unicorn, but still getting to walk away even if they shoot their captives.
@Zalis116 Pls tell me what the Japanese who watched it in free TV paid for the service?
Exactly JUST their time to watch commercials.
And keeping a streaming site running is way easier and cheaper than a TV Channel.
Who needs a site with EVERYTHING? They can just make each their own streaming site with the 2 options of free streaming+ads or a paid download.
And then they would make one BIG site (like kinox) that redirects you to the site of the anime you want to watch.
and you give me my phone call.
Things Crunchyroll can do:
1. Get a fucking video player that isn't dogshit
2. Subtitles on dubs
3. Add the entire anime, not just a couple seasons (I pirated One Punch Man Season 2 because Crunchyroll doesn't have it for whatever reason)
4. Better servers so they don't implode whenever a new episode of a really popular anime comes out
Illegal sites already have non-dogshit video players, all seasons of any given anime (since they don't have to pay for licensing rights), and adequate servers. That doesn't change the "why should I pay for what I can get for free?" calculus.
And pirates don't seem to actually care about "subtitles on dubs," since illegal sites not only don't have closed-captioning/dialogue subtitles for dubs, they often omit the signs/songs subtitles that legitimate dubs on legal services and DVD/Blu-Ray _do_ contain.
@@Zalis116 I don’t know what site you watch on but I always find good subtitles. As for song subs, I really don’t care.
Edit: I misread, subtitles on a dub. I don’t really watch dub so I can’t attest
This has been an ongoing issue even before legal streaming sites existed, and I can't say I don't understand why people take to the high seas to get their anime. Back when I first got into anime if it wasn't being broadcast on Cartoon Network the only way was to go to someplace like Boarders and buy the DVD. Now, I did that for a long time, but then I simply couldn't anymore. I have entire series on DVD... but let this sink in a bit. On DVD, a 52 episode series is broken down into 13 DVDS! 13 of them, sold at $25 a pop! That's $325 for a SINGLE SERIES! If you wanted to follow more than 1 show, you needed to be rich... and let's be honest here, back then most of the people who were anime fans were either people who refused to be SHAMED OUT OF WATCHING ANIME of people in High School and below! What high school kid just has $325+ lying around to drop on every anime they wanted to follow!
Now, I will readily admit that streaming sites are much cheaper than this. But this has now become the way to get anime day-of for nearly 2 DECADES! While I understand the concerns regarding piracy I can only really say that the anime industry did this to THEMSELVES. Not to mention, most illegal streaming sites started up because it would take YEARS for anime to get ported out of japan to the rest of the world! No one wanted to wait that long, and even back then the anime industry wasn't so hurt for cash (obviously) that it couldn't have done a better job serving customers worldwide that wanted their product. They just didn't care enough to. Now, once the industry's international fanbase has grown exponentially and they aren't seeing the ROI to mirror that growth, it has suddenly become a massive problem to them! This is a perfect case of their own actions (an many times inaction) costing them in the long run.
I would imagine if it was that cost, one might as well just get the manga that the series they wish to follow is based off of at the local library. Even if one had to buy them it would still probably be cheaper.
The only way i could watch anime here at a very poor country was trough a tv channel,and it had random episodes of random anime so you couldn't watch a whole anime and it didn't have any anime i liked