Guys, the screenwriter for The Secret Garden also wrote Edward Scissorhands, The Addams Family, Black Beauty, Corpse Bride, and The Nightmare Before Christmas, wtf 😱
Aside of the 1993 movie version, my favorite version of this was the Japanese animated series adoptation "mary & the secret garden." It had a complete story from og novel.
THIS is my favorite version... it's SO SO SO GOOD! as a 38 yr old adult, i found myself rediscovering this movie 3 decades after its release, and i have seen it over a dozen times since.
Genuinely feel this film is a masterpiece, I first watched it when it came out in 1993, I was seven years old and it left a big impression. I return to it a lot. The 2020 adaptation does not even come close.
I have seen all of the movie adaptations of The Secret Garden, and this one is my favorite. It has a timeless quality to it that the other versions don't have, it doesn't shoehorn in a stupid romance with Mary and Collin as adults like the 1987 movie focussed on, and it doesn't completely massacre the story like the 2020 film did.
I don't even want to know. The Secret Garden is one of my favourite childhood books. Knowing there's an adaption that massacres the story makes me sad.
It’s dark but it’s also light and beautiful. Some years ago, my then-boyfriend noted that his go-to escapist entertainment was The Office series and mine was this movie. We both struggled with chronic depression. It helped me get out of my holes 🕳️. At least while it played.
Omg i LOVE that you got emotional... because I did too as an adult watching it again .., it was recommended to me on demand on my TV and I decided to rent it because it was some type of nostalgia for me and I haven’t seen it for years and yeah I did cry a 33 year old woman lol
Problem with the 2020 version is the garden is too magical, it doesn’t feel real. The emotional beats are never earned, it felt rushed. The 1993 version ironically feels magical because of its humble earthy feel. The 2020 version just left me feeling empty.
I find a lot of movies now are like this they miss the earthy feel , really miss the mark , they think by adding special effects it makes it even more whimsical but it really takes it away . I love practical effects used when they can be !
Great commentary! What a great, terrifying film. Formative stuff for sure. Still gets quoted a lot by my siblings, well we'll sing 'send me my father here, set his spirit free' at least once a year.
Why only 58 views?! I just discovered your channel, and your commentary is delightful and so valuable. Loved this ep. I watched this 1993 version in the cinema, and I think I wept as much as you.
2:00 that makes so much sense! Little princess and The Secret Garden we're two of my favorite movies growing up because of the story and the vibe of the film. Now I know why! Lol
This was my favourite movie as a child, I watched it over and over again. It is a beautiful film, I didn’t find the themes difficult as a child, I loved it then as I do now.
This movie has a strange place in my memories. I remember finding it enchanting and terrifying. I fell in love with cobblestone-covered Ivy, skeleton keys, elephants and intrigue. Yet some of the scenes scared me and gave me nightmares. The dream of both mothers calling out (and specifically where Mary was lost and crying out) echoed in my nightmares. The dogs fighting on the stairs and for some reason the ending with the music and the vast open landscape. Yet I watched our VHS any chance I could.
I adored (and still adore) this film when I was a child. It was a visual treat and appealed to my sensibilities. But there was also a mystery and off-kilter quality to it that scared and fascinated me in equal measures. I love rewatching it as an adult for many of the reasons that you pointed out. I was able to absorb so much of the subtextual characterizations and storytelling as a child but didn't have the understanding yet to process the nuances in the character's arcs. It's a lovely piece of film.
THANK YOU so much for making this, I enjoyed it so much! This has been my all-time favorite movie since I was a kid, and I've never been able to find good content or a solid fan base for it anywhere. This video was awesome, I hope it gets more views!
This is one of my fave movies from my childhood, absolutely had an incredible impact on my love of nature and growing into wanting good relationships with people around me, the music and specific acting styles from each character were so much to me
this was my absolute favourite movie growing up. the combination of the music, underlying themes and beautiful setting always get me crying by the end and leave me with a feeling of magic. re: the child actors, i agree with you that they hold back a little yet are a little over the top, but as the film is very much from a child's perspective, i think it works well. as a ten year old kid everything does seem very dramatic, and that's something i thinks this film gets across very well!
I really enjoyed this video! This movie is so simple but so beautiful, raw and full of hope... One of my favorites for sure. And I loved your comments on it!! I came here for the movie but now I'm staying to check out more of your content! Sending love from Argentina :)
I have not seen this movie in almost 30 years. We had a joke about my youngest sister referencing all the people dying at the dinner party and the little girl asking, “if everyone’s dead, who’s going to dress me?” I haven’t wanted to spend the $$$ to rent it to check my memory of that particular scene, I don’t do sad, but this movie review has just about compelled me to just do it. (Adults always keep secrets.)
It is such a treat that you took the time to comment on this and appreciate it. It's in my top 4 favourite movies on Letterboxd. I even got my bf to watch it and he *loathes* "old" movies. And he even appreciated it as well!
"i know they are family, like this isnt...a relationship relationship" Colin: IM GONNA MARRY YOU, MARY!! team Deacon tho...look how that cutie was crying when Colin met his dad in the garden XDDD
The relationships may not be fully accurate in portrayal of the human condition, but the movie keeps to its themes really well and tells this story beautifully.
5:23 I can't be the only one that thinks that maybe they were going to release unity later and rogue was intended to be a much fuller game than it was and they simply pulled back on it and threw everything they had at unity when it still needed at least another year of development
It’s crazy how foundational films like this were to me as a kid, rewatching them is like looking at an old picture album and recognizing yourself from years and years ago. It’s interesting to me too how different this film is from Alfonso Cuaron’s “A Little Princess” even though they’re both adaptations of the same authors with. I love them both for different reasons. Cuaron’s movie is a lot glossier and definitely “sparkles” in your imagination. I think I like this one better though. The gothic darkness and mystery that it captures just worms it’s way deep into your brain. Also I think the character of Mary Lennox is just much better fleshed out. I love that she has a bad temper and is irritable and cross with people. She has so much learning and growing to do and she doesn’t always deal with it well. Comparably, Sarah in “A Little Princess” can be a bit saccharine and Pollyanaesque if you know what I mean.
Haha, if you not familiar with the concept of byronic hero, Lord Craven meets all the criteria : romantic, dark, strange, (handsome ?), look like a villain but he s not ;-)
It just all hit me so suddenly, how powerfully stories can condense and alleviate all these really difficult weights we all carry. Adults, children. Brought a flood of emotions 😭
This is probably my all time favorite movie and it was incredibly formative for me. I’m really glad you enjoyed it. I think one of the reasons the buildings and scenery look so much better than films today is that CGI is relied on much too heavily in modern movies. It detracts from the quality. I saw all the CGI in the trailer for the 2020 movie and decided I’d never watch it.
Thank you! It's for the best that you didn't watch the 2020 version. Whether as a fan of the book or the 90's film, the 2020 adaptation makes a *lot* of questionable decisions.
I was going to reply to my own thread but I wasn't able to reply to my own comment lol, sorry for the spam - I just wanted to say that you are so right about movies in the 90s looking more real then movies nowadays. The only thing they care about now is how HD, colorful/ contrasted, or *crisp* it looks. I miss movies that looked like they actually existed, because you can imagine yourself within them! Maybe it has something to do with memory, or just how realistic things look when they're not trying to be so visually bold. I've been watching a ton of older movies just for that reason!
I actually appreciate well-done CGI animals 9:29 instead of real animals on film, given that most animals on sets are forced entertainers. Also, many production companies bend the rules to get certified that “no animals were harmed” during filming but that’s not always guaranteed, as deeper investigation by journalists have proven thus far. The CGI animals are a sign of films adapting to avoid using real animals for humane, financial and legal purposes. That’s why most recent films opt for the CGI instead of the real thing. I do agree some CGI is done poorly but I have seen some notable CGI animals on film and I’m here for it ❤️
i loved this when i was little. There is the Secret Garden 2 with mary and colin agian. Its not the 2020 its still 90s or 2000's. Mary and Colin are older.
Haha, I'm always amazed how many spin-offs and adaptations of The Secret Garden are out there. I get recommended a thousand versions I had never even heard of! 😵
Until you did this, I forgot how much I loved this movie and Greensleeves! Also p.s I work in film, and we've just gotten lazy, and corner cutting. It's cheaper and you have more control when you build a set. It takes talented people to make existing spaces work for them.
I want to know what parody you're referring to because I have yet to find a MadTV parody of the Secret Garden. I've searched through all the episode synopsis with no hits. If you find out or if anyone else knows, let us know in the comments. Whenever my friend and I go bank fishing at the lake or nearby creek, we joke about how there's always a secret garden through the thicket when one of us pulls back the shrubbery trying to discover unfished areas. Lol. It's funny to us.
This movie is good for the soul. Kids over here teaching the adults lessons smh Edit: and totally unrelated but have you seen The Company of Wolves?? Such an odd movie, but I love it for some reason! Would love to see your reaction one day. Just found your channel today, already a fan! 💞
I am sooo happy to see someone reacting to this movie. It is one of my absolute favorites from childhood. I would kill to live in that castle lol. You talked a bit too much but I didn't not enjoy it.
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Lol this used to be one of my favorite movies when I was a kid ... BUT I just watched it as an adult and YES I never realized the love triangle in it ? Lol very weird when you watch movies as a kid and Watch them as adults do you notice small things that just aren’t normal
It wasn't really a 'love triangle' 🤣. They are small children. They're limited on the knowledge of how to accurately express themselves lol. Collin doesnt want to be abandoned by Mary, like his mother and father did to him. She is aware that she wouldn't, and isn't going to marry her cousin. He knows that logically as well. But his tantrum throwing (and proposal) are him trying to keep her closer to him, than to Dicken. So she doesn't go off and abandon him too. Because Mary is all he truly has, before he and his father are reunited. Collin doesn't know any other kind of love, than a man who deeply loved his wife.. aka his father and mother. That is what he knows, so that is how he expressed his love for Mary. He is a literal child whos never been outside of his own bedroom.. and hasn't seen any other forms of love displayed around him, and doesn't know any better lol. He's never even seen friendship portrayed lol, because all he has are servants, and a father that hes quite literally never seen one single time, in his entire life. But who he also lives in the same house as. It was clear to me even as a child... that Collin wasn't actually romantically in love with Mary lmao. She was just the first person to treat him like a normal person, and not like a fragile piece of glass.. and he didn't want to lose that. The fact anyone is making it out to be creepy or weird is just being ridiculous, or just isnt paying attention.
I think this is the one that looked like what my imagination created in my head while reading the book. The earlier one I think was more gritty and realistic as far as rural life in that period. The 2020 film was a bright shiny fantasy, but so shallow. And the Shirley Temple version is pretty much the worst book adaptation ever.
I gotta admit i love Maggie Smith as Professor McGonagal but not here. I doubt Medlock lashed out at anyone in the book the way Smiths portrayal of Medlock slapped Dickons sister. Its like watching McGonagal abuse a student at Hogwarts
I get you. The attachment to an actor's most iconic role is really hard to shake. I don't remember if book Medlock ever strikes Martha, but she is just as, if not more neglectful and disdainful of Mary. She goes full Dursleys 🤬
It's definitely a bit shocking to see, especially in a movie that's primary audience was children but I think it's very accurate to the time period, late Victorian/early Edwardian era. Especially because Martha expresses to Mary that she was taken on as a servant as a favor. She's someone born to poverty with little to no standing at all, which is quite sad but does provide the context as to Medlock's authoritative behavior towards her.
I- as someone who's read the book this version hurts to see o.o It mightve been iconic in the 90s but its so painfully different, I feel like they failed to translate Mary's character properly onto the screen. She was neglected by her parents but she was oblivious that things should have been better, she saw it all as normal, and she was definitely wayyy more spoiled and she slowly starts to get better and there was no picture of her aunt and mother AND Medlock NEVER slapped anyone! The servants all basically agreed Mary meeting Colin was the best thing that happened to Colin! Its just so sjdbbdbdsjshshdbhs I still recognize that its considered a classic though
Colin being still a child helps the pain of being rejected and abounded kind of and not evey child holds the pain so fast and deep, like Mary, Colin is prob more forgiving and not as angry by his situation like Mary was. Not to mention his father is still live so he had hope one day things will change unlike Mafy whise mother and father are dead.
Guys, the screenwriter for The Secret Garden also wrote Edward Scissorhands, The Addams Family, Black Beauty, Corpse Bride, and The Nightmare Before Christmas, wtf 😱
That’s explains why I thought of Tim Burton when I heard the music with the opera in it.
that explains why they are all such good movies
time for some rabbithole-digging...
also Homeward Bound!
Aside of the 1993 movie version, my favorite version of this was the Japanese animated series adoptation "mary & the secret garden." It had a complete story from og novel.
THIS is my favorite version... it's SO SO SO GOOD! as a 38 yr old adult, i found myself rediscovering this movie 3 decades after its release, and i have seen it over a dozen times since.
Genuinely feel this film is a masterpiece, I first watched it when it came out in 1993, I was seven years old and it left a big impression. I return to it a lot. The 2020 adaptation does not even come close.
One of my favourite childhood movies the soundtrack is so beautiful.
Mysterious, expressive, it's easily one of the top two original scores I've heard for this channel.
I have seen all of the movie adaptations of The Secret Garden, and this one is my favorite. It has a timeless quality to it that the other versions don't have, it doesn't shoehorn in a stupid romance with Mary and Collin as adults like the 1987 movie focussed on, and it doesn't completely massacre the story like the 2020 film did.
Oh my god THE 2020 VERSION 😫
I don't even want to know. The Secret Garden is one of my favourite childhood books. Knowing there's an adaption that massacres the story makes me sad.
This is my favorite version of this movie. There's a certain darkness about it. The ending always makes me misty too.
Love the dark elements of the movie
It’s dark but it’s also light and beautiful. Some years ago, my then-boyfriend noted that his go-to escapist entertainment was The Office series and mine was this movie. We both struggled with chronic depression. It helped me get out of my holes 🕳️. At least while it played.
I looooove the secret garden and also the little princess
Very much agree!
I had them both on a double feature DVD set
Both of the books those films were based on were written by the same author :)
What you said about set design is spot on. Nowadays establishing shots and buildings are all reused to save cost, and most sets are just green screen.
Omg i LOVE that you got emotional... because I did too as an adult watching it again .., it was recommended to me on demand on my TV and I decided to rent it because it was some type of nostalgia for me and I haven’t seen it for years and yeah I did cry a 33 year old woman lol
Thank you! Childhood movies really do creep up on you like that
Problem with the 2020 version is the garden is too magical, it doesn’t feel real. The emotional beats are never earned, it felt rushed. The 1993 version ironically feels magical because of its humble earthy feel. The 2020 version just left me feeling empty.
I was like are we going to discuss how she can't cry no well that's a huge part of the magical story completely cut out.
I find a lot of movies now are like this they miss the earthy feel , really miss the mark , they think by adding special effects it makes it even more whimsical but it really takes it away . I love practical effects used when they can be !
Great commentary! What a great, terrifying film. Formative stuff for sure. Still gets quoted a lot by my siblings, well we'll sing 'send me my father here, set his spirit free' at least once a year.
Haha, that's amazing! 🤣
This is, and will remain, the most dear film to my heart. The love story between Mary and Dickon is probably the most beautiful in all cinema.
I just love your commentaries! This movie is definitely a favorite of mine and seeing you discover it is priceless!
Why only 58 views?! I just discovered your channel, and your commentary is delightful and so valuable. Loved this ep. I watched this 1993 version in the cinema, and I think I wept as much as you.
I was taken aback by how much this movie affected me! I'm glad you enjoyed it too!
2:00 that makes so much sense! Little princess and The Secret Garden we're two of my favorite movies growing up because of the story and the vibe of the film. Now I know why! Lol
This was my favourite movie as a child, I watched it over and over again. It is a beautiful film, I didn’t find the themes difficult as a child, I loved it then as I do now.
This movie has a strange place in my memories. I remember finding it enchanting and terrifying. I fell in love with cobblestone-covered Ivy, skeleton keys, elephants and intrigue. Yet some of the scenes scared me and gave me nightmares. The dream of both mothers calling out (and specifically where Mary was lost and crying out) echoed in my nightmares. The dogs fighting on the stairs and for some reason the ending with the music and the vast open landscape. Yet I watched our VHS any chance I could.
I adored (and still adore) this film when I was a child. It was a visual treat and appealed to my sensibilities. But there was also a mystery and off-kilter quality to it that scared and fascinated me in equal measures. I love rewatching it as an adult for many of the reasons that you pointed out. I was able to absorb so much of the subtextual characterizations and storytelling as a child but didn't have the understanding yet to process the nuances in the character's arcs. It's a lovely piece of film.
not me randomly deciding to rewatch the movie AND happened to find your video in the same day! great analysis :)
😂😂
I just watched this (gorgeous) movie & went to find reviews. good commentary! 👏
Thank you!
Loved this reaction! You give such better commentary than 90% of reactors I have seen! Subscribing!
I loved this video so much I subscribed. Your intellect and emotion really inspires and moves me🥰❤️
THANK YOU so much for making this, I enjoyed it so much! This has been my all-time favorite movie since I was a kid, and I've never been able to find good content or a solid fan base for it anywhere. This video was awesome, I hope it gets more views!
I'm glad you enjoyed!
this was such a good reaction, loved you're comments abt the movie. you're editing is amazing too!!!!!
This is one of my fave movies from my childhood, absolutely had an incredible impact on my love of nature and growing into wanting good relationships with people around me, the music and specific acting styles from each character were so much to me
I like how it's a movie about taking your time, letting things grow, change, and heal. I think it's a worthwhile lesson.
this was my absolute favourite movie growing up. the combination of the music, underlying themes and beautiful setting always get me crying by the end and leave me with a feeling of magic.
re: the child actors, i agree with you that they hold back a little yet are a little over the top, but as the film is very much from a child's perspective, i think it works well. as a ten year old kid everything does seem very dramatic, and that's something i thinks this film gets across very well!
I cry every time I watch this film
I really enjoyed this video! This movie is so simple but so beautiful, raw and full of hope... One of my favorites for sure. And I loved your comments on it!! I came here for the movie but now I'm staying to check out more of your content! Sending love from Argentina :)
Thank you! It's a great movie
I have not seen this movie in almost 30 years. We had a joke about my youngest sister referencing all the people dying at the dinner party and the little girl asking, “if everyone’s dead, who’s going to dress me?” I haven’t wanted to spend the $$$ to rent it to check my memory of that particular scene, I don’t do sad, but this movie review has just about compelled me to just do it.
(Adults always keep secrets.)
It is such a treat that you took the time to comment on this and appreciate it. It's in my top 4 favourite movies on Letterboxd. I even got my bf to watch it and he *loathes* "old" movies. And he even appreciated it as well!
Also, I agree with the child acting in this.
Bruh. This movie made me cry and I’m 32 years old
The secret garden and the little princess has a very special place in my heart
"i know they are family, like this isnt...a relationship relationship"
Colin: IM GONNA MARRY YOU, MARY!!
team Deacon tho...look how that cutie was crying when Colin met his dad in the garden XDDD
This is my absolute favorite movie.
This is my favourite version and I can't wait to see your other reactions!
I loved this adaption. 1949 version is my all time favorite with Margaret O'Brien is wonderful
I unfortunately didn't love the 49 version, but the ending was magical.
The relationships may not be fully accurate in portrayal of the human condition, but the movie keeps to its themes really well and tells this story beautifully.
I had this flim on a duo set when my mom bought it on a dis years ago. It This movie and A little princess was on it. I remember this film.
5:23 I can't be the only one that thinks that maybe they were going to release unity later and rogue was intended to be a much fuller game than it was and they simply pulled back on it and threw everything they had at unity when it still needed at least another year of development
The Draco x Hermione edit killed me lmao 😭😭
I love this movie
It’s crazy how foundational films like this were to me as a kid, rewatching them is like looking at an old picture album and recognizing yourself from years and years ago. It’s interesting to me too how different this film is from Alfonso Cuaron’s “A Little Princess” even though they’re both adaptations of the same authors with. I love them both for different reasons. Cuaron’s movie is a lot glossier and definitely “sparkles” in your imagination. I think I like this one better though. The gothic darkness and mystery that it captures just worms it’s way deep into your brain. Also I think the character of Mary Lennox is just much better fleshed out. I love that she has a bad temper and is irritable and cross with people. She has so much learning and growing to do and she doesn’t always deal with it well. Comparably, Sarah in “A Little Princess” can be a bit saccharine and Pollyanaesque if you know what I mean.
Haha, if you not familiar with the concept of byronic hero, Lord Craven meets all the criteria : romantic, dark, strange, (handsome ?), look like a villain but he s not ;-)
By the way, i love your reaction, i had suprises tears too at the end ^^
It just all hit me so suddenly, how powerfully stories can condense and alleviate all these really difficult weights we all carry. Adults, children. Brought a flood of emotions 😭
This film is underrated and beautiful
This is probably my all time favorite movie and it was incredibly formative for me. I’m really glad you enjoyed it. I think one of the reasons the buildings and scenery look so much better than films today is that CGI is relied on much too heavily in modern movies. It detracts from the quality. I saw all the CGI in the trailer for the 2020 movie and decided I’d never watch it.
Thank you! It's for the best that you didn't watch the 2020 version. Whether as a fan of the book or the 90's film, the 2020 adaptation makes a *lot* of questionable decisions.
The soundtrack is so amazing. Zbigniew Preisner is so underrated. The music has been a staple on my Playlist since the original ipods came out.
You had me at "God, I hate cgi animals". you get a sub
I was going to reply to my own thread but I wasn't able to reply to my own comment lol, sorry for the spam - I just wanted to say that you are so right about movies in the 90s looking more real then movies nowadays. The only thing they care about now is how HD, colorful/ contrasted, or *crisp* it looks. I miss movies that looked like they actually existed, because you can imagine yourself within them! Maybe it has something to do with memory, or just how realistic things look when they're not trying to be so visually bold. I've been watching a ton of older movies just for that reason!
The John Wick joke fcking KILLED ME ☠️
I actually appreciate well-done CGI animals 9:29 instead of real animals on film, given that most animals on sets are forced entertainers. Also, many production companies bend the rules to get certified that “no animals were harmed” during filming but that’s not always guaranteed, as deeper investigation by journalists have proven thus far. The CGI animals are a sign of films adapting to avoid using real animals for humane, financial and legal purposes. That’s why most recent films opt for the CGI instead of the real thing. I do agree some CGI is done poorly but I have seen some notable CGI animals on film and I’m here for it ❤️
i loved this when i was little. There is the Secret Garden 2 with mary and colin agian. Its not the 2020 its still 90s or 2000's. Mary and Colin are older.
Haha, I'm always amazed how many spin-offs and adaptations of The Secret Garden are out there. I get recommended a thousand versions I had never even heard of! 😵
Until you did this, I forgot how much I loved this movie and Greensleeves!
Also p.s I work in film, and we've just gotten lazy, and corner cutting. It's cheaper and you have more control when you build a set. It takes talented people to make existing spaces work for them.
I want to know what parody you're referring to because I have yet to find a MadTV parody of the Secret Garden. I've searched through all the episode synopsis with no hits. If you find out or if anyone else knows, let us know in the comments. Whenever my friend and I go bank fishing at the lake or nearby creek, we joke about how there's always a secret garden through the thicket when one of us pulls back the shrubbery trying to discover unfished areas. Lol. It's funny to us.
This movie is good for the soul. Kids over here teaching the adults lessons smh
Edit: and totally unrelated but have you seen The Company of Wolves?? Such an odd movie, but I love it for some reason! Would love to see your reaction one day. Just found your channel today, already a fan! 💞
I haven't! I was contemplating doing a vampire series in the far, far future, and that might fit into the gothic horror theme. Thanks!
@@pillboxmovies sounds good! I hope you decide to do the series, I'll be patiently waiting 👍😁
Oooo also, can you do the 1994 Black Beauty?
Oh, and also A Little Princess. But Black Beauty first cuz the animal "acting" is so much better those days before CGI.
New subb I love ur vids😍😍😍😍😍😍
I am sooo happy to see someone reacting to this movie. It is one of my absolute favorites from childhood. I would kill to live in that castle lol. You talked a bit too much but I didn't not enjoy it.
what's the music in the background?
For the intro? It's "Cuckoo" by Benjamin Britten
@@pillboxmovies Thank you, great review!
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Where i csn watch this? Secret garden 1993?
It's on Netflix, A. Prime, I think it's pretty easily accessible
lmao I stole the scene where he shows her the trees are still alive. I use it with all the kids I know.
That's wick 🌿
Lol this used to be one of my favorite movies when I was a kid ... BUT I just watched it as an adult and YES I never realized the love triangle in it ? Lol very weird when you watch movies as a kid and Watch them as adults do you notice small things that just aren’t normal
It wasn't really a 'love triangle' 🤣. They are small children. They're limited on the knowledge of how to accurately express themselves lol. Collin doesnt want to be abandoned by Mary, like his mother and father did to him.
She is aware that she wouldn't, and isn't going to marry her cousin. He knows that logically as well. But his tantrum throwing (and proposal) are him trying to keep her closer to him, than to Dicken. So she doesn't go off and abandon him too. Because Mary is all he truly has, before he and his father are reunited.
Collin doesn't know any other kind of love, than a man who deeply loved his wife.. aka his father and mother. That is what he knows, so that is how he expressed his love for Mary.
He is a literal child whos never been outside of his own bedroom.. and hasn't seen any other forms of love displayed around him, and doesn't know any better lol. He's never even seen friendship portrayed lol, because all he has are servants, and a father that hes quite literally never seen one single time, in his entire life. But who he also lives in the same house as.
It was clear to me even as a child... that Collin wasn't actually romantically in love with Mary lmao. She was just the first person to treat him like a normal person, and not like a fragile piece of glass.. and he didn't want to lose that.
The fact anyone is making it out to be creepy or weird is just being ridiculous, or just isnt paying attention.
You do realize children feel innocent love right?
Watch Peter pan (2003) !!
I think this is the one that looked like what my imagination created in my head while reading the book. The earlier one I think was more gritty and realistic as far as rural life in that period. The 2020 film was a bright shiny fantasy, but so shallow. And the Shirley Temple version is pretty much the worst book adaptation ever.
Maggie Smith's character was keeping Colin sick aka Munchausen by Proxy so that she'll always have a job
I gotta admit i love Maggie Smith as Professor McGonagal but not here. I doubt Medlock lashed out at anyone in the book the way Smiths portrayal of Medlock slapped Dickons sister. Its like watching McGonagal abuse a student at Hogwarts
I get you. The attachment to an actor's most iconic role is really hard to shake. I don't remember if book Medlock ever strikes Martha, but she is just as, if not more neglectful and disdainful of Mary. She goes full Dursleys 🤬
It's definitely a bit shocking to see, especially in a movie that's primary audience was children but I think it's very accurate to the time period, late Victorian/early Edwardian era. Especially because Martha expresses to Mary that she was taken on as a servant as a favor. She's someone born to poverty with little to no standing at all, which is quite sad but does provide the context as to Medlock's authoritative behavior towards her.
5:20 ok, cool, but like do you pause the movie while you go on these monologues? Otherwise why am I here?
I laugh my ass off at John Wick for WAY to long
Just finished reading the book today and watched the movie.
Maggie smith will always be miss Medlock to me. One of favorite movies of all time. The new movie missed the mark for me.
i wish theyd read the book before making a movie about it
I- as someone who's read the book this version hurts to see o.o It mightve been iconic in the 90s but its so painfully different, I feel like they failed to translate Mary's character properly onto the screen. She was neglected by her parents but she was oblivious that things should have been better, she saw it all as normal, and she was definitely wayyy more spoiled and she slowly starts to get better and there was no picture of her aunt and mother AND Medlock NEVER slapped anyone! The servants all basically agreed Mary meeting Colin was the best thing that happened to Colin! Its just so sjdbbdbdsjshshdbhs I still recognize that its considered a classic though
the only thing i hate abt the movie is the love triangle, like...just why ;_;
Oh no, haha! What do you dislike it so intensely?
Same and the fact that two of them are cousins 😭
Colin being still a child helps the pain of being rejected and abounded kind of and not evey child holds the pain so fast and deep, like Mary, Colin is prob more forgiving and not as angry by his situation like Mary was. Not to mention his father is still live so he had hope one day things will change unlike Mafy whise mother and father are dead.