There is Nothing MICRO About that Riveter, i could here the Guy in the Background he sounded like that film came from England Maybe !!! Hard, Hot, Dirty, and Noisy Job !!!! But Hey it's work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Now imagine doing that with tongs and sledge hammers ,balancing on an H beam ,100 stories up with no safety gear. That's how they built the empire state .
And on top of all that, they threw the red hot rivets from furnace to some poor guy who had the job of catching them in a bucket and quickly transferring them to the riveters. If he didn't turn around fast enough to catch the next one, the hot rivet would hit him in the back.
It's what my grandfather did. He was one of the men with a bucket of hot rivets, hammering them in by hand, 130ft over the Mississippi River to build the Julien Dubuque Bridge.
Rivits seal up far better than bolts as the shaft of the rivet expands into the hole whilst bolts all of the sealing is only on the head and the nut less surface area better for things that need to be air/pressure tight
When I worked in Loughborough on boilers, I was told of these kinds of hydraulic rivet presses and how after using them on foundation rings, that foundation ring never leaked again. Its not that hard to see why. The sheer tonnage and force to form that rivet head and it hasn't even gone cold. Truly remarkable! I can't wait to get back into it.
@@jeffmoncalieri7491 Ah, well I'll be riveting locomotive boilers in Crewe, while its true, welding is much faster and easier, welding doesn't have as much longevity in certain areas as riveting normally would. With a locomotive boiler, its subjected to constant expansion, contraction, while also taking the movement and swaying of the engine while travelling at high speed. The long and the short of it, fully welded boilers don't have that movement room that riveting has, as a result the boiler normally lasts 10 years at least, 20 if you're lucky. Where as a riveted boiler tends to last 20 years at least, 50 if you look after it.
@@trainlover658 Ahh - ok - that makes sense. I have heard that during WWII the early Liberty ships were riveted, and when they switched over to fully welded hulls the ships would develop cracks due to the lack of flexibility and the effect of the cold North Atlantic waters.
Not necessarily. Rivets in certain constructions tend to work loose over time. I often used to cut them out and replace them with Huck bolts if movement was not desirable.
You mean to tell me you might have some hearing left to hear your grandchildren with? Oh the horror! Seriously though, that is a great setup! Love the video.
Is that C clamp unit a worm drive or hydraulic? I like that's its not just air hammered in, plus air hammers cause you to get hit with hot slag crusties, that thing is nice in its operation.
how much pressure is the unit capable of? and how much is needed for hot rivetting this way? orking on a ww2 dodge and need to do some hot rivetting. will have to build me something like this
I know that this is a long shot especially as this video was made over six years ago but there is a chap called Leo who has been making videos of his rebuild of a cutter called Tally Ho. He will need to attach all the planking to his boat with approximately 4,000 rivets. These will be copper and he is making them himself using a specially made press but on installation in the boat he does not yet to the best of my knowledge have a hydraulic rivet press for installing the rivets in the planking. How would one obtain a hydraulic rivet press such as this and where from?
That hydraulic rivetter is good,when they built the Sydney Harbour bridge they used same thing,holes pre drilled in workshop,hoisted into position by crane,rivets heated in kerosene heater,thrown to catcher (a lot of missed ones still in Harbour) and placed onto hole,then hammered with pneumatic tool
@@ar-gaming9014 that sounds like someone burning themselves. probeblt the forgeman. i work in a boilershop and i recognise all the sounds. in fact i was doing some rivettign today on a firehole ring. lol
The power unit supplying the hydraulic pressure is able to produce several thousand PSI, a red hot rivet is quite soft so a few tons at the ram would be enough to close it. The ram itself is rated much higher.
@@clarkgore ......a few tons my bleeding arse. Try again sport. Seriously, ram is what 6" diameter...? No wonder people call utube a cesspit of incorrect information.
@@clarkgore ...further.... US151TC - Heavy Duty C-Type Compression Riverter (TANDEN) US151TC 1/4" 7/32" 12,000 2 1/8" 9/16" ...this is for a 1/4" rivet, about 5 tons. Now the rivets here are what, 3/4" diameter. If, when asked you don't know, bloody well say so. There is no crime in not knowing.
You're thinking of aircraft rivets. Aircraft rivets are made of aluminum, and aluminum alloys tend to harden with age. Rivets made of certain alloys need to be kept refrigerated after they are annealed (softened by heating, then cooled) so they don't harden at room temperature and become to brittle to drive. They are informally referred to as "Icebox" rivets. So called icebox rivets are 2024T and 2017T alloy rivets. General aviation aircraft are usually assembled (and repaired) using 2117T alloy rivets which do not require refrigeration.
The rivet sets being used in the "hydraulic clamp machine? ... I used to make them in a production machine shop in the 1980's ... on a Browne and Sharpe Automatic 2G Screw Machien ... I both Set AND operated two machines at once and still had time to take naps on the job :0)
When the hot rivet cools down it shrinks up and acts a high pressure on the parts beeing fastened. That's the main effect of riveting. Therfore rivets have to be made from steel with high tenacity. A vague suspicion is that the rivets of the Titanic had been made of cheaper brittle iron/steel so that the triple rivet line fastening the plates broke instantanously.
@Travis Thacker Keep in mind that old steel had sulfur content that was too high to permit welding. Riveting is completly out of practice now unless your looking at an old repair. All structural welding code books have a section explaining repair and modification of existing structures. Number one rule is to look for rivets. If you see them then your in for a round of mass spectrometer testing and weld testing.
Depends on how big said rivet is, some rivets are small enough that you don't need to heat them up, while some are made up of a softer metal like a soft steel or aluminum which also doesn't need to be heated up unless they are fairly big.
this can do like 50 tone of force so it holds the fire box foundation ring and horn plates together tight and you can hold the rivet to let it cool before you take of the pressure as if its hot it stretches it out creating leakes
Titanic was made of poor steel. Rivets wouldn't have helped. Other ships had fracture problems too. Steelmaking at the time was not nearly as advanced as today. Engineers on land could use very heavy sections to compensate. At sea, not so much! "The steel used in constructing the RMS Titanic was probably the best plain carbon ship plate available in the period of 1909 to 1911, but it would not be acceptable at the present time for any construction purposes and particularly not for ship construction. " www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/9801/Felkins-9801.html
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"That's not gonna go anywhere is it?" No. No it won't.
Unless it's below freezing and it's challenged by an unnoticed iceberg.
that's a pretty sweet micrometer
There is Nothing MICRO About that Riveter, i could here the Guy in the Background he sounded like that film came from England Maybe !!! Hard, Hot, Dirty, and Noisy Job !!!! But Hey it's work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I get the joke.but then worked in a machine shop. The other reply went right over the guys head.
Now imagine doing that with tongs and sledge hammers ,balancing on an H beam ,100 stories up with no safety gear. That's how they built the empire state .
Or in the cramped and confined spaces inside the hull of a ship!
And on top of all that, they threw the red hot rivets from furnace to some poor guy who had the job of catching them in a bucket and quickly transferring them to the riveters. If he didn't turn around fast enough to catch the next one, the hot rivet would hit him in the back.
It's what my grandfather did. He was one of the men with a bucket of hot rivets, hammering them in by hand, 130ft over the Mississippi River to build the Julien Dubuque Bridge.
True...but high-strength aluminium alloys are not easy to weld correctly
Rivits seal up far better than bolts as the shaft of the rivet expands into the hole whilst bolts all of the sealing is only on the head and the nut less surface area better for things that need to be air/pressure tight
I searched and searched, and this is exactly what I needed to see. Thank you.
When I worked in Loughborough on boilers, I was told of these kinds of hydraulic rivet presses and how after using them on foundation rings, that foundation ring never leaked again.
Its not that hard to see why. The sheer tonnage and force to form that rivet head and it hasn't even gone cold. Truly remarkable! I can't wait to get back into it.
what will you be riveting? I can't imagine there's very much need for this process nowadays when welding is so much faster and easier.
@@jeffmoncalieri7491 Ah, well I'll be riveting locomotive boilers in Crewe, while its true, welding is much faster and easier, welding doesn't have as much longevity in certain areas as riveting normally would. With a locomotive boiler, its subjected to constant expansion, contraction, while also taking the movement and swaying of the engine while travelling at high speed.
The long and the short of it, fully welded boilers don't have that movement room that riveting has, as a result the boiler normally lasts 10 years at least, 20 if you're lucky. Where as a riveted boiler tends to last 20 years at least, 50 if you look after it.
@@trainlover658 Ahh - ok - that makes sense. I have heard that during WWII the early Liberty ships were riveted, and when they switched over to fully welded hulls the ships would develop cracks due to the lack of flexibility and the effect of the cold North Atlantic waters.
@@jeffmoncalieri7491 you dont weld boilers.
@@DieselRamcharger Even modern boilers are riveted?
It is hydraulic, the power supply which is just out of shot is about the size of a washing machine.
clarkgore Damn.....
Pretty small considering what it does.
What is it? Part of what?
This is how bridges used to be riveted and many other things. Hot rivets last a life time.
Not necessarily. Rivets in certain constructions tend to work loose over time. I often used to cut them out and replace them with Huck bolts if movement was not desirable.
Absolutely riveting viewing
I dont get it
I need that drill bit
it's called a reamer...
Strothy2 reamer is used to make a good surface finish for a drilled hole right??
Yogesh Kalal Well good and acurate yes
It's to make sure it's round, drill bits can make a slightly oval hole.
Hey you don't need new drill ,do you need a new car🙈🙊🙉🇵🇷
Those 3/4"-16 'clecos' really hold things in place until the4 riveter gets there.
You mean to tell me you might have some hearing left to hear your grandchildren with? Oh the horror!
Seriously though, that is a great setup! Love the video.
Hahaha I thought he grabbed that glowing rod with his hand for a second
When the precious computers fail, we'll go back to steam power!
Thanks for the video! What kind of pressure are we seeing? thx
Sehr schön das es so was noch gibt .👍 Meiner Meinung nach einer besten und schönsten Verbindung von Bauteilen 👌
Very nice rivet job! Would like to see the machine it's for!
Thanks!
Jeff
That's a beastly joining method. Love it.
They sure Arn't 3/16" Pop Rivets that's for Sure !!!!
sounds good :D how you made those rivets?
These brits building a tank
Nice video👍👍👍
Is that C clamp unit a worm drive or hydraulic? I like that's its not just air hammered in, plus air hammers cause you to get hit with hot slag crusties, that thing is nice in its operation.
Very amazing setup and work! I was curious how many tons is the hydraulic ram on that unit?
Please see above reply.
how much pressure is the unit capable of? and how much is needed for hot rivetting this way? orking on a ww2 dodge and need to do some hot rivetting. will have to build me something like this
These folks have some serious tools
This is beautifully terrifying
Simple hot rivet will fasten, Becomes cold rivet finish?
sweetest thing, guys. priceless.
So this is where i put my micrometer.
I know that this is a long shot especially as this video was made over six years ago but there is a chap called Leo who has been making videos of his rebuild of a cutter called Tally Ho. He will need to attach all the planking to his boat with approximately 4,000 rivets. These will be copper and he is making them himself using a specially made press but on installation in the boat he does not yet to the best of my knowledge have a hydraulic rivet press for installing the rivets in the planking.
How would one obtain a hydraulic rivet press such as this and where from?
nice what engine is that of?
guy at 0:55 is how i picture every brit.
@Forsaken Pumpkin i met a brit at a hot dog stand wearing daisy duke shorts ...that accent and those shorts are glued in my brain
Indeed 😆
That hydraulic rivetter is good,when they built the Sydney Harbour bridge they used same thing,holes pre drilled in workshop,hoisted into position by crane,rivets heated in kerosene heater,thrown to catcher (a lot of missed ones still in Harbour) and placed onto hole,then hammered with pneumatic tool
Superb
awesome! they should write ‘Rosie” on it with soapstone.
He keeps throwing the pliers on the floor
They are making the chastity belt my wife ordered for me.
HA HA HA HA !!!!!!! REALLY !!!!!?????????????????????
So, that's how it's done, always wonder about it.
Satisfying
Very good job! Is it possible to know what quality of steal do you use for these new rivets?
Consol45 Hi, I do not know the specification of the rivets, they come from the supplier as boiler quality rivets. And they cost more.
Regards Robin.
My colon does the exact same thing.
schlaznger wut??
that's beauty right there...
That last second something wend wrong someone screaming
That's what I heard too. At first I thought it was his hand getting caught, replayed it and it's off camera.
it was him i think the rivet fucked up or it seemed to try and keep squeezing it
Yea, I watched it a couple times trying to figure it out.
Same
@@ar-gaming9014 that sounds like someone burning themselves. probeblt the forgeman. i work in a boilershop and i recognise all the sounds. in fact i was doing some rivettign today on a firehole ring. lol
Should be set to Pink Floyd's "Not Now John"
Beatiful 👍👍👍
Satisfying.
Very riveting
Now that's a "C"-squeeze
I like it. Less noise. But I don't think that tool can be used to rivet a large boiler.
Satisfying 😌
Nice job
How many tons is that press?
Now that's realy cool
Thats quite the drill
That was cool
What the hell you Irishman building the Titanic?
This is the best mouthed
A job that does not go obsolete and does not need yearly upgrades in education!
reminds me of WWII tanks for some reason
That's some pretty fuckin serious riveting
This is how they made the Eiffel Tower.
Good rocks
Imagine getting your hand pinched in that vice, ouch bro.. Ouch.
nice
Nice C-Squeeze
What is this on? Is it replica work or current industry? If so, I had no clue this type of riveting was still done. Thanks for the video.
its the bottom of the fire box in a steam traction engine
هل يوجد للبيع من هدا الة ثتبيت البرشام
So satisfying 😬😬
how many tonnes is that hydraulic ram rated to?
sorry if i said it wrong, as i am no engineer
The power unit supplying the hydraulic pressure is able to produce several thousand PSI, a red hot rivet is quite soft so a few tons at the ram would be enough to close it. The ram itself is rated much higher.
Thanks dude, I know very little about these things and I've always wondered how rivets are made.
@@clarkgore ......a few tons my bleeding arse. Try again sport. Seriously, ram is what 6" diameter...? No wonder people call utube a cesspit of incorrect information.
@@clarkgore ...further....
US151TC - Heavy Duty C-Type Compression Riverter (TANDEN)
US151TC
1/4" 7/32" 12,000 2 1/8" 9/16" ...this is for a 1/4" rivet, about 5 tons. Now the rivets here are what, 3/4" diameter. If, when asked you don't know, bloody well say so. There is no crime in not knowing.
Well that's very quiet.
Man Can Catch a big fish, but the Trouble is to keep it Catched without loosing it.....we shall see what we see....Blueberry Hill.........
Must be part of a battle tank or a military ship due to the thickness of the plates .
Could be a mud ring on a boiler to.
Beautifull
Look at that forge!!
its a lot quieter than i expected
Cooool
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how about bolt, spacer, lock metalnut
So.., If I use Kaioken or Kamehamehaa, I wont require machinery. Do I get an increase in wages for my Dragonballs?
Now that’s drill
Boss
Bad rivets get sent to the squeezer
I forgot what its called but what do you call the rivets that you keep cool so they stay soft?
You're thinking of aircraft rivets. Aircraft rivets are made of aluminum, and aluminum alloys tend to harden with age. Rivets made of certain alloys need to be kept refrigerated after they are annealed (softened by heating, then cooled) so they don't harden at room temperature and become to brittle to drive. They are informally referred to as "Icebox" rivets. So called icebox rivets are 2024T and 2017T alloy rivets. General aviation aircraft are usually assembled (and repaired) using 2117T alloy rivets which do not require refrigeration.
God I’m a dumbass, for some reason I always just thought those were always a half circles welded onto the metal
In replicas, they usually are.
I want one like this
Riveting tale chap.
The rivet sets being used in the "hydraulic clamp machine? ... I used to make them in a production machine shop in the 1980's ... on a Browne and Sharpe Automatic 2G Screw Machien ... I both Set AND operated two machines at once and still had time to take naps on the job :0)
That fuc#@ng cool
Thank god for electric welding
Forging and welding are a great fucking trade. I wish learn some day....
Are riots always placed hot?
Metal are softer when red hot. Easy to shape the rivet head.
When the hot rivet cools down it shrinks up and acts a high pressure on the parts beeing fastened. That's the main effect of riveting. Therfore rivets have to be made from steel with high tenacity. A vague suspicion is that the rivets of the Titanic had been made of cheaper brittle iron/steel so that the triple rivet line fastening the plates broke instantanously.
Yes dad
@Travis Thacker Keep in mind that old steel had sulfur content that was too high to permit welding. Riveting is completly out of practice now unless your looking at an old repair. All structural welding code books have a section explaining repair and modification of existing structures. Number one rule is to look for rivets. If you see them then your in for a round of mass spectrometer testing and weld testing.
Depends on how big said rivet is, some rivets are small enough that you don't need to heat them up, while some are made up of a softer metal like a soft steel or aluminum which also doesn't need to be heated up unless they are fairly big.
What advantage is this compared to using air hammers?
this can do like 50 tone of force so it holds the fire box foundation ring and horn plates together tight and you can hold the rivet to let it cool before you take of the pressure as if its hot it stretches it out creating leakes
Holy crow that's heavy duty shit
No wonder the Titanic sank
Much more civilized
An elegant tool, for a more civilized age.
Now imagine someone will grab the red nit with bare hands 😱
Ahhhh That would Be a Rather Big BAD Idea !!! OUCH UGGH !!!!!
WoW. ..
Well... this was a riveting clip
Loopy Mind *gentlemen slow clapping*
I think this riveting press could be useful on Titanic...but is too late now :(
Titanic was made of poor steel. Rivets wouldn't have helped. Other ships had fracture problems too. Steelmaking at the time was not nearly as advanced as today. Engineers on land could use very heavy sections to compensate. At sea, not so much!
"The steel used in constructing the RMS Titanic was probably the best plain carbon ship plate available in the period of 1909 to 1911, but it would not be acceptable at the present time for any construction purposes and particularly not for ship construction. "
www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/9801/Felkins-9801.html
Need Protection to radiation.
Welcome to the 19th century...
18th century
20th century
22th day
0:55 that smile tho