As a Christian woman who has been married to a Christian man for 6 years and together for over 10, I can honestly say that, in my humble opinion, us woman low key want our men to be perfect. I think that when woman say that they want a "God-fearing man that has a relationship with Jesus" we are really saying that we want a man that we don't have to worry about cheating, lying, walking out, etc. (which you can find in a man that is not necessarily Christian). We want our man to be perfect, behave well , and think the way we want them to think (which is low key control). And we say that we need safety and security (which we absolutely do) but we we have an issue with feeling safe and secure if our man shows any sign of imperfection. The moment a flaw pops up we are on guard and no longer feel safe out of fear. So the man can't lead and be all that he is called to be because we hold him to a standard of perfection that he constantly doesn't meet. This is the cycle that we have constantly deal with, pray against, and allow the Holy Spirit to work on the inside of us as women. Submission is easy when the man is perfect and we agree with everything he is doing (which isn't true submission). If he is not perfect, it takes the Holy Spirit for us to truly submit, truly trust in God, and allow him to lead anyway.
I’m a woman that has not felt that it was “safe” to let my man lead me. The word “feeling safe” just means that I don’t trust that you will lead me correctly. It just means I don’t trust your leading me because you have not done a great job at leading your own life sir. If the woman makes more money than the man, prays more than the man and doesn’t get mixed up in as much drama as the man does….she will feel as though she can’t trust his leadership. She doesn’t feel safe to trust him because he hasn’t made the best decisions with his own life….No man can tell a woman she has to trust his leadership. He has to prove that he is a good leader. If the woman is making more money or spending more time with Jesus….shes already knowing it’s hard to trust his leadership
When Heather said “did you really want to see people’s opinion or did u just want to see how many people agree with you?” ….I don t think there’s anything wrong with posting something to see how many people agree with you lol . I wonder why Cornelius thought that was a low blow? It’s human for us to wanna see how many people view things from our same perspective or a different perspective. I post things to see peoples opinion but I also want to see how many people share the same view as I do. Nothing wrong that or what Heather said lol
Nice discussion. Cornelius, excellent points- often the environment shouldn’t be left solely to the men (because like you mentioned it often has nothing to do with the relationship but un resolved trauma or resentments) but really a matter of the heart to work through within us- really a work for us all. Safety and trust for the leader is important but safety and trust should ultimately be rooted in Christ and who we are. 🙏🏽
I might be overstepping but sounds like Cornelius doesn't help Heather much with things she needs. Hence why she feels like she needs to take actions and leadership in some areas. Idk though please don't block me
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“Safety must come before submission” 👏🏾👏🏾💯💯💯
As a Christian woman who has been married to a Christian man for 6 years and together for over 10, I can honestly say that, in my humble opinion, us woman low key want our men to be perfect. I think that when woman say that they want a "God-fearing man that has a relationship with Jesus" we are really saying that we want a man that we don't have to worry about cheating, lying, walking out, etc. (which you can find in a man that is not necessarily Christian). We want our man to be perfect, behave well , and think the way we want them to think (which is low key control). And we say that we need safety and security (which we absolutely do) but we we have an issue with feeling safe and secure if our man shows any sign of imperfection. The moment a flaw pops up we are on guard and no longer feel safe out of fear. So the man can't lead and be all that he is called to be because we hold him to a standard of perfection that he constantly doesn't meet. This is the cycle that we have constantly deal with, pray against, and allow the Holy Spirit to work on the inside of us as women. Submission is easy when the man is perfect and we agree with everything he is doing (which isn't true submission). If he is not perfect, it takes the Holy Spirit for us to truly submit, truly trust in God, and allow him to lead anyway.
I love you two, honest and genuine opinions and conversations! That's what keeps bringing me back to your channel! Thank you!:
Ughh, I love these deep, thought-provoking questions Cornelius and Heather ask each other!!!
This is so good!
I’m a woman that has not felt that it was “safe” to let my man lead me. The word “feeling safe” just means that I don’t trust that you will lead me correctly. It just means I don’t trust your leading me because you have not done a great job at leading your own life sir. If the woman makes more money than the man, prays more than the man and doesn’t get mixed up in as much drama as the man does….she will feel as though she can’t trust his leadership. She doesn’t feel safe to trust him because he hasn’t made the best decisions with his own life….No man can tell a woman she has to trust his leadership. He has to prove that he is a good leader. If the woman is making more money or spending more time with Jesus….shes already knowing it’s hard to trust his leadership
Please continue it next week. Love the different perspectives from both sides.
When Heather said “did you really want to see people’s opinion or did u just want to see how many people agree with you?” ….I don t think there’s anything wrong with posting something to see how many people agree with you lol . I wonder why Cornelius thought that was a low blow? It’s human for us to wanna see how many people view things from our same perspective or a different perspective. I post things to see peoples opinion but I also want to see how many people share the same view as I do. Nothing wrong that or what Heather said lol
Nice discussion. Cornelius, excellent points- often the environment shouldn’t be left solely to the men (because like you mentioned it often has nothing to do with the relationship but un resolved trauma or resentments) but really a matter of the heart to work through within us- really a work for us all. Safety and trust for the leader is important but safety and trust should ultimately be rooted in Christ and who we are. 🙏🏽
Cornelius raises valid points, we gotta care more for our men.
Safety thing.. could very well be an issue of her submitting more to GOD and trusting God's choice for her
I don't think all women are the same. Some find it difficult to submit but some submit easily. Don't generalize.
who was the 3rd voice on the podcast?
I might be overstepping but sounds like Cornelius doesn't help Heather much with things she needs. Hence why she feels like she needs to take actions and leadership in some areas. Idk though please don't block me
That clip...I cannot stand that rejection shop show. Your show I respect.