So pretty much the best characters are the ones that the Gods don’t like. 1. Mystina can’t be sent to the Gods 2. Arngrim can’t be sent 3. They don’t like Gandar 4. Lucien causes issues for the Gods 5. Lenneth takes on the Gods 6. Brahms is an enemy of the Gods 7. Freya is a God 8. Lezard is an enemy of the Gods 9. Lewelin is the only one that doesn’t fit but he is probably viewed by the Gods as one of the weakest sent to them… Pretty much use the ones that piss off the Gods seems to be the hidden message of this game.
I might be wrong but Gandar ends up more powerful than Mystina at similar levels; Mystina has the edge in being in the party longer, however. Arngrim might as well be in his own tier cause he never leaves your party ever (at least for me).
Thanks for the explanation. I have been explaining to someone where to go for choosing characters for this game. You are the person to choose for the main game.
Started playing recently, im on chapter 3 and my team is carried by casters. Jelanda and Yumei effortlessly curbstomp all normal enemies, Arngrim is falling off (and i plan to replace him once i get a third caster) and even Lenneth struggles to keep up with the sheer damage output from the casters, this class is broken.
Grey's 3rd normal attack is unblockable like Lewellyn's move so in think he is a much better character if this same attribute make Lewellyn so good. Grey's Energy Cannon is a great move to start combos with. Icicle Disaster is weak but it recharges quickly. Plus the mage does all the damage anyway. Plus you wanna keep enemies alive ideally and knock as much treasures and gems out as possible before killing them. My favourite team is Valkyrie, Grey, Lucian and Mystina. I'd use them from chapter 5 on if i didn't have to send Lucian for the good ending.
@@psyonicpanda Yes. The dash is blockable but the 2 ice shards that follow behind him can't be blocked or dodged. I'm not saying he's better than Arngrim or anything but he's at least better than a lot of other fighters for this reason. Energy Cannon is an amazing normal.
I know I'm super late to the game here but I started playing the Lenneth version a little while ago and absolutely fell in love with it. You talk about innate resistances a lot here, but aren't those meaningless? I read somewhere that innate resistance doesn't actually exist or is glitched, so that aspect of the character status screen is just there for no reason.
Aa far as I know the caster resistances work but are mostly irrelevant. All casters are insanely good but if you wanted to order them, it would look close to how I did it.
Just found this. When I played through I used mystina, kashell and aelia. Combos were funky but i got quick kills. Aelia worked enough for me but her move set you have to really compensate for with spacing her attacks. Kashell… just felt like worse arngrim honestly but could hit low very effectively. And blowing the enemies away with mystina as the third pws chain. Usually chaining them as kashel, lenneth, mystina, then aelia. When i found out lewelyn was actually good i was shocked. Any tips on trying to land more of their pws in fights?
@@lavernazear2079 Using a weapon with 3 attacks will give you a lot more meter to start the PWS chain. Try to use PWS with less hits first because you need more and more hits as it goes on.
Bro. Literally all the characters you have in ass tier are the ones I maxed out and sent up and had great success with. Aelia, Badrach, Grey, Suo, Kashell etc. you must be bad
You can definitely use a team of all bad characters and still clear the game very easily. However, making teams from the best characters will make it way easier and they are a lot stronger at killing bosses in one turn. I have another video explaining what makes characters good.
You can’t just look at the dmg of the pws and decided which one is better. For example : yes pws of anrgrim is strong, but even with ring equiped you have to wait like 4 turns to use it again. And other characters with 3 CT or less can perform pws every turns. So the question is : Do Arngrim pws does more dmg than a normal 3ct pws multiple by 4 times ? I don’t think so
Just started playing Valkyrie Profile for the first a couple days ago. Just on Chapter 2 right now, your videos have been really helpful! Don't know if you'll see this, but if it's alright, what are your thoughts on Jun, Grey, and Suo? I know you mentioned them here and there, but what of specifics and usability?
Glad you found them helpful! Jun and Suo are pretty okay, just not the great. Grey is really cool but some of his attacks miss easily. Suo's PWS is also very bad since it can go off screen and miss. To be honest, you can beat A ending on Hard with the worst comp in the game. Just play whoever looks cool if you don't care about optimizing :)
I came here bcs wanted to play this game again but man whats this tier list 😂 Maybe my first question is, do you play for the A ending? Next, have you reach seraphic gate? In this game every char will work, but putting arngirm so high is just... Sad 😢 even midgame, all heavy sword only has 1 move and for arngrim, its the punch 😅 And man whats that llwelyn tier 😂 unblockable attack? Wait reaction is crying at the corner of the room
List is not for Seraphic Gate. Arngrim has a PWS that almost always caps out the gauge so you can use him as a builder for your mages. He is also very tanky, you get him early so you can use him the whole game, and he does a lot of damage outside of PWS. You can clear the game with any team but if you're playing an optimized team, it's different. Wait Reaction sucks because you're assuming that it's ever active when most good teams will kill any story boss in 2 turns. You never really want your mages on CD and Llwelyn makes melee comps viable. Having access to a guard break is so nice and you get him very early.
@@srobsonscosta8887 Honestly, it's fine. That tier is basically Gandar>everyone else in a random order. Left to right mostly matters for the physical damage dealers. I want to say I put her higher up because her base spell set was good but I don't remember .
Here is my updated tier list I made a year later. Check it out!
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So pretty much the best characters are the ones that the Gods don’t like.
1. Mystina can’t be sent to the Gods
2. Arngrim can’t be sent
3. They don’t like Gandar
4. Lucien causes issues for the Gods
5. Lenneth takes on the Gods
6. Brahms is an enemy of the Gods
7. Freya is a God
8. Lezard is an enemy of the Gods
9. Lewelin is the only one that doesn’t fit but he is probably viewed by the Gods as one of the weakest sent to them…
Pretty much use the ones that piss off the Gods seems to be the hidden message of this game.
I might be wrong but Gandar ends up more powerful than Mystina at similar levels; Mystina has the edge in being in the party longer, however.
Arngrim might as well be in his own tier cause he never leaves your party ever (at least for me).
Thanks for the explanation. I have been explaining to someone where to go for choosing characters for this game. You are the person to choose for the main game.
Started playing recently, im on chapter 3 and my team is carried by casters. Jelanda and Yumei effortlessly curbstomp all normal enemies, Arngrim is falling off (and i plan to replace him once i get a third caster) and even Lenneth struggles to keep up with the sheer damage output from the casters, this class is broken.
Wizard gang strong
@@psyonicpanda btw, how would you rank the casters among themselves? Or are they interchageable?
@@UserName-hb7hw They're in order but it doesn't matter much. The only big differences is their resistance to elements.
Grey's 3rd normal attack is unblockable like Lewellyn's move so in think he is a much better character if this same attribute make Lewellyn so good. Grey's Energy Cannon is a great move to start combos with. Icicle Disaster is weak but it recharges quickly. Plus the mage does all the damage anyway. Plus you wanna keep enemies alive ideally and knock as much treasures and gems out as possible before killing them. My favourite team is Valkyrie, Grey, Lucian and Mystina. I'd use them from chapter 5 on if i didn't have to send Lucian for the good ending.
Is his third attack the one where he dashes through? Grey is cool but I think other characters are just more consistent.
@@psyonicpanda Yes. The dash is blockable but the 2 ice shards that follow behind him can't be blocked or dodged. I'm not saying he's better than Arngrim or anything but he's at least better than a lot of other fighters for this reason. Energy Cannon is an amazing normal.
I know I'm super late to the game here but I started playing the Lenneth version a little while ago and absolutely fell in love with it.
You talk about innate resistances a lot here, but aren't those meaningless? I read somewhere that innate resistance doesn't actually exist or is glitched, so that aspect of the character status screen is just there for no reason.
Aa far as I know the caster resistances work but are mostly irrelevant. All casters are insanely good but if you wanted to order them, it would look close to how I did it.
Just found this.
When I played through I used mystina, kashell and aelia. Combos were funky but i got quick kills. Aelia worked enough for me but her move set you have to really compensate for with spacing her attacks. Kashell… just felt like worse arngrim honestly but could hit low very effectively. And blowing the enemies away with mystina as the third pws chain. Usually chaining them as kashel, lenneth, mystina, then aelia. When i found out lewelyn was actually good i was shocked. Any tips on trying to land more of their pws in fights?
@@lavernazear2079 Using a weapon with 3 attacks will give you a lot more meter to start the PWS chain. Try to use PWS with less hits first because you need more and more hits as it goes on.
Bro. Literally all the characters you have in ass tier are the ones I maxed out and sent up and had great success with. Aelia, Badrach, Grey, Suo, Kashell etc. you must be bad
You can definitely use a team of all bad characters and still clear the game very easily. However, making teams from the best characters will make it way easier and they are a lot stronger at killing bosses in one turn. I have another video explaining what makes characters good.
You can’t just look at the dmg of the pws and decided which one is better. For example : yes pws of anrgrim is strong, but even with ring equiped you have to wait like 4 turns to use it again. And other characters with 3 CT or less can perform pws every turns. So the question is : Do Arngrim pws does more dmg than a normal 3ct pws multiple by 4 times ? I don’t think so
This is looking at it from an optimized group/speedrun standpoint. Once you use your PWS, the fight is over.
@@psyonicpanda
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This is my group, Llewelyn and Suo can do this combo every turn.
@@psyonicpandayea the fight is over for normal enemy lol do we even need a tier list to fight normal enemies?
@@Fogship Even for bosses, the fight in a good team should end in 1-2 turns.
Just started playing Valkyrie Profile for the first a couple days ago. Just on Chapter 2 right now, your videos have been really helpful!
Don't know if you'll see this, but if it's alright, what are your thoughts on Jun, Grey, and Suo? I know you mentioned them here and there, but what of specifics and usability?
Glad you found them helpful! Jun and Suo are pretty okay, just not the great. Grey is really cool but some of his attacks miss easily. Suo's PWS is also very bad since it can go off screen and miss.
To be honest, you can beat A ending on Hard with the worst comp in the game. Just play whoever looks cool if you don't care about optimizing :)
I came here bcs wanted to play this game again but man whats this tier list 😂
Maybe my first question is, do you play for the A ending?
Next, have you reach seraphic gate?
In this game every char will work, but putting arngirm so high is just... Sad 😢 even midgame, all heavy sword only has 1 move and for arngrim, its the punch 😅
And man whats that llwelyn tier 😂 unblockable attack? Wait reaction is crying at the corner of the room
List is not for Seraphic Gate. Arngrim has a PWS that almost always caps out the gauge so you can use him as a builder for your mages. He is also very tanky, you get him early so you can use him the whole game, and he does a lot of damage outside of PWS. You can clear the game with any team but if you're playing an optimized team, it's different.
Wait Reaction sucks because you're assuming that it's ever active when most good teams will kill any story boss in 2 turns. You never really want your mages on CD and Llwelyn makes melee comps viable. Having access to a guard break is so nice and you get him very early.
Dont you think Lyseria is kind of terrible because of her 0 dark resist?
Every caster is broken. Magic is too powerful :(
@@psyonicpanda i mean, "*among casters*, dont you think lyseria is kind of terible because of her 0 dark resist?"
@@srobsonscosta8887 Honestly, it's fine. That tier is basically Gandar>everyone else in a random order. Left to right mostly matters for the physical damage dealers.
I want to say I put her higher up because her base spell set was good but I don't remember .