Also the concept that men and women are less moral and the law isn't fair therefore we should not do the right thing is odd to me. I'd rather have a struggling people in a struggling society to try to the right thing in the right way and maybe fail, rather than just fail harder and never even try to make marriage work.
As a married man, I reject the idea that men just want "sex, silence, and sandwiches". I like talking to my wife. She's funny and she laughs at my stupid jokes. I want companionship and love. Not a sex doll.
Same!!! They have a unique way of looking at things. That’s why I like it when women speak up and challenge me. It helps me to be a better man and be a better Catholic
@@nomadic_orthodox no it means not a masculine woman, whos obnoxious, goes on girls night out and sleeps with random dudes. its funny how OP says "she laughs at my stupid jokes" like hes homer simpson, which is a character made to make men look stupid and simps. and also, if she laughs at your stupid jokes, but dsnt give you sex, are you cool with that? nope. because Sex, silence and sandwiches come first, then you can focus on the small things like her laughing at you because you make stupid jokes.
Nah, it's based. It is nice to see an argument where the other side isn't just arguing in its self interest. Tho, I guess it is in the self interest of a married Catholic to defend marriage.
Bro sidestepped their disrespect, feminism and promiscuity because marriage good. Pearl be like, you shouldn't, tho. Too many women with unnecessary baggage.
23:59 ... As a married man going through chemo for leukemia, I can't imagine how I'd be doing this without my wife. The fact that she arranges child care for our 5 kids nearly every day of the week so that she can come sit with me for ~2 hours a day (kids are not allowed on this floor) is ironclad testimony of her character, devotion, and love.
After one year of marriage my husband had stage 4 cancer. I took six months off my job to take care of him at home. It was very trying time and he was very nasty to me during that period. He pulled through and is ok. He then had a flesh eating bacteria and then a speech impediment and I was the one who noticed in all these issues something was off and advocated for tests and things from doctors. Till today he says if not for his wife he would be gone from this world. Meanwhile I see it as when you love someone and care about them this is simply what life is about.
I like how Pearl's like (paraphrasing) "men don't like it when women are constantly interrupting them and being condescending" in the same breath she condescends and constantly interrupts Trent.
You can tell Pearl’s success on social media is dependent on having incredibly overgeneralized and black & white thinking. Trent giving nuanced answers frustrates her. Anyone who has such black & white views is bad news and will lead to despair. True love and companionship is found in the gray with work toward mutual respect and admiration.
Your mutual respect means nothing if you wife tires of you and pulls the plug. The comments on this thread are so ignorant. All of the men whose marriages ended were once loving, trusting partners. It is the total imbalance in power once a marriage ends which is so outrageous and a genuine cause for concern for any man contemplating marriage.
@@markmooroolbark252 100% agree. The decision to get married is not nuanced, you either get married or don't get marrird. As a man in 2024 you have to be a complete idiot to get married, co-habitate or have kids. Divorce court is brutal. Custody laws are completely biased, your kids are not yours - they belong to your spouse! You are lucky if she lets you see them once a week.
That's why it's likely she'll never get married. If marriage is such a bad deal for men, shouldn't a woman who got a marriage proposal feel that much more grateful?
Yeah she's not trying to marry him he's already married so she doesn't have to be submissive to him why is there supposed to be submissive to their husbands. This just proves that most people are more worried about having to follow the leader of their family then they are getting a husband
@@oldscorp yeah but she is bashing the modern woman nowadays and debating how they should be for marriage, relationships etc. yet acting like the complete opposite. As she loves to claim that women only offer sex and looks yet she does not have the looks and is expired like she would say (old)
@@gabby-ue8sh By that logic an oncologist should have his medical license revoked when diagnosed with cancer, or people should start smoking if a smoker advises them not to.
“The success of a marriage is not about finding the most perfectly compatible person but choosing to love the imperfect person you chose to marry” Jason Evert
If that was the case why did catholic marriage rates declined? Or a lot of guys dropping out of society? It does matter other wise Paul would not advice others to be equally unyolked. Come on guys let's work with reality here. Men nor good women are asking for a perfect spouse there are serious problems that need to be addressed.
I just wished he had moderated better. Pearl interrupting every 2 seconds, laughing at his opponent and having no manners needed more corrections and Trent should have gotten some extra time because of that.
@@MicaTuHermanaMayorYeah, she definitely interrupted far, far, too much, but to be fair Matt did give Trent more time for his closing statement, and Trent was pretty good at telling her to not interrupt him, himself.
@@Danboy0001 I kinda disagree, I think Matt did a great job as a moderator, I think the issue was just that Pearl rambled and wasted her own time monologuing rather than engaging with the debate, she is however able to do that during her time if she chooses to do so, it obviously doesn't really contribute to a meaningful debate and is going pretty much guarantee that she loses the debate, but that isn't the moderators fault.
The point of cross-examination isn't to ask actual questions, it's to lead the witness to give answers that support your point. Part of the idea is you force them to answer 'yes' or 'no' to complex, loaded, or misleading questions that require qualified answers ('yes, but ...'), but don't allow them to qualify those answers. Then you kinda soapbox in between. But not only was she kinda incoherent in her soapboxing, she also couldn't do the typical strategy because this isn't court and Trent was free to refuse to give her the simplistic answers that he'd have been required to give in a court, under threat of jail.
Her rude attitude and childish mind for me is reason why her family haven’t any problems send young daughter/sister for another continent in oposite side of globe. Like you know normally rest of family try change that idea like : you are young woman and being alone in different continent without opportunity help you if something happens, but with pearl I would only say : good luck in London!:)
@@DSN262They aren't married, she isn't married.....and not even a steady long term boyfriend but easily led men will tune in to hear her 'Expert' advice and memorised talking points that she has never and will never experience as a female
Trent is an intellectual powerhouse. He always Steelmans his opponents points and tackles it head on. He’s the reason why I’m taking a second look at the Catholic faith I left a decade ago. Trent if you see this, you’re doing great man! Keep it up
Yes, he does. It's one of the reasons I like watching him so much. Gavin Ortlund (who Trent has debated, hosted by Matt actually,) does the same. I like that he always tries to represent the other persons beliefs in a way they would actuaĺy recognise and agree with. Trent takes care with this too and they both make a distinction between doctrine and official teaching and how the laity actually practice. So many Christian youtubers don't make an effort to do this and I think charity, honesty and integrity demand this so I love seeing it in those two guys. Trent is going to wipe the floor with Pearl here, (respectfully of course!) Tbh I think it's beneath him but it's those who follow Pearl, the redpillers that he's trying to reach, not convince her so it's worth it I guess!
Pearl argues like she’s a teenage boy. Can’t stop talking about weight. Sex, silence, and sandwiches. Sex and food are great and needed in a relationship but my husband actually enjoys talking to me, values my opinions, and asks for my input. I’m 13 pounds heavier now than I was before I got pregnant with our first and he couldn’t care less because I take care of our kids all day and am still breastfeeding. A number on a scale means nothing to him. It’s never a conversation. Under her logic, he should divorce me. I don’t see any decent man wanting to put up with a combative, argumentative and smug woman like this.
@leaf842 she's on I suspect because of her interview with Michael Knowles and how she claimed to be Catholic but openly rejected the Church's teachings to his face.
She laughed before she answered because she knows it's true. She'll excuse ANY bad behavior of a man but will look for any little issue with women as to a reason why they don't deserve to be married.
It's true. All she shows is that she craves male attention and found a way to make money doing it... at the expense of women.. and people like Trent who are actually there to have an honest conversation.
She's admitted to this in past videos. She's talked about having focused on all the wrong things in her early adult life, because that's what western culture trains young women to do. Open your eyes and examine western culture from an objective standpoint.
I’ve said many times, I don’t think Pearl actually believes most of what she professes. She’s just found a way to make a living making other people upset and garnering hate clicks.
I like how Pearl's like (paraphrasing) "men don't like it when women are constantly interrupting them and being condescending" in the same breath she condescends and constantly interrupts Trent.
You should see his debate on Whatever with destiny where destiny began to justify bestiality. Trent, completely justified, was rather annoyed and called him insane lol
@@DirewolfMemento The issue is that people don’t understand what marriage is and it’s purpose. Matrimony was created for the protection of the mother. Mater is Latin for mother. It’s not a woman vs men battle. As Trent stated, right now there are men and women who lack virtue. This is probably due to the breakdown of the family. Most men in jail were abandoned by their fathers. We all have a father but not everyone is raised by them. Marriage is for the purpose of tying children to their parents and parents to each other. Another problem is that people are not considering virtue when they choose a spouse. They think going into marriage is going to somehow transform the person. We have seen how bad the breakdown of the family has affected children. We need more holy marriages, not less. Also, I am talking about life-long sacramental marriages not civil unions where it is permissible to divorce your spouse for any reason or no reason at all. Check out the Ruth Institute channel on the topic of marriage. Marriage matters. We have enough children abandoned by their parents. Do you know what it’s like to show up to your dad or mom’s house and feel like it’s not your home? To see that your younger half siblings have their mom and a dad living together but you don’t? To see family pictures on the wall but none of them include your other parent?
@@user-ks3qr5fk6m any non sacramental marriage isn't marriage its just debauchery, sex outside of marriage ot adultery. Without God and the unification of him, it is not marriage. It cannot be anything else. We shouldn't encourage people to sin. Because that is sin. This is what I mean though. People are out of touch. You say probably because the breakdown of the family. But I and pearl tell you the exact reason and you refuse to listen to them. The solution to the marriage crisis isn't to just "get married anyway" or ask men to take the risk and find love. (In a perfect world it would be) but men are literally screwed in divorce court. And the divorce rates with young modern women are so high and not for reasons you might think. We need to change the laws back to more traditional ways. Contraception is the reason people don't have kids.
Because on average, the husband has greater capabilities to be a consistent protector and provider in the long term compared to the wife. Being obedient to the husband will make it easier for the wife to be protected and provided for. It can be a simple survival tactic based on quid pro quo.
Because it would be the only possible incentive for a man to invest and commit to a woman. Even without a Christian ethical system, you will still have a basic trading of obligations. Stripping away any ethical duties, only leaves trades. What do I get out of this, and what do you get? Adding back in the Christian ethic though, and modern women actually become way worse. If modern men held women to a Christian ethical standard before marriage, less than 5% would be marriageable. Meanwhile, the State doesn't care about even one feature of covenantal marriage, and has literally defined out ALL of the features Catholics would consider foundational to marriage. Add these things together and no one can possible make an argument for why anyone, especially not Catholic men, should participate in the State's marriage farce.
@@PaulLeEtudiant but most men don’t provide and protect anymore nor do they want to. Our culture doesn’t teach that any longer and many women out earn their husbands now and have higher level careers. Only traditionally minded Christian men see the value in this anymore. Marriage really only makes sense if viewed a the sacrament that it is where the women submit and obey and the men provide and protect. Outside the lenses of this it doesn’t really make sense. Where is the motivation to stay and fight for a relationship if one’s main goal is their own personal happiness? If neither party goes into a marriage understanding this it’s most likely going to fail. Most don’t that’s why the divorce rate is so high.
Her positions have only gotten more extreme over the few years she’s had any type of social media presence, yet she’s still single. Why isn’t she getting followed around all day with proposals? She’s masculine, loud, a boss babe, not a virgin, prioritizes a career with men who work under her. Based on her whole demeanor here, I just don’t see her being that quiet, obedient wife she demands women to be who’s going to cook and say “yes dear” all day long.
There’s a reason they only invite Pearl to these debates. Andrew Wilson could easily argue her positions and win against Trent but again. There’s a reason Pearl is the only one invited.
I don’t think Andrew is the best representative, either. He married a woman who already had kids with 2 other men and he made her take a DNA test when she got pregnant again.
I listened to the first half of this interview at work, and as soon as I got off work, I bought an engagement ring. Thank you, Pearl, Trent, and Matt for inspiring me to get the ball rolling on marriage :)
Good catch. IMO than nonstop yelling about “after 25 y woman lost value” is for excuses what she is single, like: because my age so it’s “logic” that younger women take man in my age or from my generation. Like : I can’t control what’s men like and that why, not because like some “haters” lied that no one wants me or I’m masculine, it’s age, force of nature.
She says she's not going to debate the religious aspect. But then she says women should be obedient, which is a religious argument. It says in the bible that women should submit to their husbands. The secular law doesn't say that. This girl is confused.
The law doesn't say that indeed. Which is the entire point. The law doesn't include a single feature of Catholic marriage so why are all the Catholics participating in State marriage? 'Women should obey their husbands' is not just a Biblical argument. The only reason a man should protect and provide for a woman is that she is obedient to him. That is a purely secular quid pro quo as well.
its biological, hence why religion adopted it, not the other way around. trend said "the man has to provide" where in secular law does it say men have to provide? your own logic used against you.
@@vortexlight8387it isn't biological at all. Men don't do any of the protecting or providing. Women die more in the hands of men than they are protected by them
I like how Pearl's like (paraphrasing) "men don't like it when women are constantly interrupting them and being condescending" in the same breath she condescends and constantly interrupts Trent.
Imagine being successful, happily married and with three kids, just to be called a "simp" by a woman who makes a profit from the attention of lonely men on the Internet.
Some people say he looked annoyed and because of that he’s too emotional. I’m like what!?!? Having someone interrupt you mid sentence just you can loose your train of thought IS ANNOYING. He’s a guy, not Gandhi.
True and this even more contrary with her :yes or no like some interrogation when she speak. Her face expression when she lost logic has misery vibe, good thriller from 90’.
It's because she doesn't believe what she says, she just repeats and follows where the redpill goes. She's a grifter and has been trying find fame/success on the internet for years. The redpill was the only one that worked. Even the redpill community hates her, because they know she's just faking it lmao
I seriously wonder if she actually believes what she’s saying, or she knows she has cornered the female red piller market and if she went traditional or even moderate she would become irrelevant.
I found it endlessly amusing that a very large part of Pearl’s argument is that men are very rational, smart creatures; but as soon as she was presented with the fact that men say they are happy being married she concludes that they must be lying.
She said men are logical but later on said the men who get married after divorce don’t make logical decisions when it comes to love. She can’t keep up with her own statements. She’s a joke.
@@SJ-ru4ej The joke is when you think that's her contradicting herself. It isn't. It's not a contradiction to say most men are logical, and then when trent pulls people that are obvious OUTLIERS to say they aren't being logical.
@@a-atheist I don't think he's talking about outliers. He was able to cite statistics, Pearl can't. "I'm a woman, I know what we pick" "Lol women gain weight within the first 5 years of marriage" (Which is usually when kids happen). Neither of those are arguments.
An unmarried woman and never married woman can only look at marriage from the perspective of a single woman... which is why she thinks a man is only interested in sex and silence. That's a bachelor not a husband... Similar to single college kids who argue for abortion.
@@Metanoia000 I wholeheartedly disagree. Pearl was pulling stats out of her arse and could not back them up. "I spoke to 1000 women blab blab." Same tired BS she always comes up with. Meanwhile he quotes a study with hundreds of thousands. He smoked her. I know in theory that egalitarianism is probably a pipe dream, but it is something we should strive for, not mock
It’s so heartbreaking to listen to Pearl talk. You can tell she’s never been loved past a superficial point and, more importantly, you can tell her heart is hardened to a point where she can’t recognize or accept God’s love for her. I think being in the presence of someone like Trent really triggers her because she definitively believes that the love he has for his wife doesn’t exist and he challenges that. This is nothing more than a secular woman with a secular view on love speaking with a man who chooses to try and love the way the Lord did.
She lives off the attention she gets from saying these things. She isn’t interested in seeing other people’s points of view, she is just making money. This is her job, this is her whole shtick. It has to be quite the conversion.
Pearl is the archetypal devouring mother. Rather than encouraging men to be better, take risks, and face the world, she treats men like babies and victims. Its no different than the mother who keeps treating her adult son like a baby because she doesnt want him to leave her. "Those women out there are mean and no good. Stay home. Nobody can love you like mommy can."
Exactly, I have said this many times. Pearl is the embodiment of the devouring mother, that person you run to for validation whether you deserve it or not
@@lvup7907 We can play this game ad infinitum though. Why did you assume he was thinking about his own mother? What does that projection say about your relationship to yours?
It's a debate, it's going to be contentious. The rules for the cross examination explicitly allow interrupting. In that situation, if you don't interrupt your opponent can stall until your time is up. Would you have the same problem if a man were doing this to Mr Horn?
Yup. My husband and I spend that on a single Costco trip on food that lasts MAYBE 2 weeks if that long, and basic household items. She comes from a rich family and has no idea what it's like to raise a family.
@MrGh0st396 she doesn't say this verbatim, she says it adds up to $100,000 over the course of the 18 years the parent would he paying child support. Still, it's ridiculous to say considering raising a child costs a lot more than $400 per month
I’ll shorten this for everyone, Pearl sees Marriage as a Transaction - I did this so this is what I receive Trent sees marriage as a covenant - I will be yours and you will be mine and together we will call on each other during celebration and despair
@@oscarperez9783 does her following of over a million YT subs also exaggerate? btw she is just a small portion of the red pill. men have ended themselves because there are benefits for a woman to leave marriage in the current state of laws. be serious
@@halo_1232 Yes, her followers grossly exaggerate, and most of red pill is based off lies and half truths. Debates like this w/ Trent show what the statistics are, rather than the highly conflated anecdotes that red piller always use. Male suicide is serious, but the highest rate of suicide in men, double the marrying or divorcing age is for seniors, 75-85. They are ending themselves not from divorce, obviously, but from serious illness and possibly widowhood.
This whole debate can be summed up in one thing: Pearl has no clue what VIRTUE is. By the way, Trent’s closing statement was beautiful. Well done, Trent!
@mraemartinez Pearl makes her money making men less interested in marriage or finding a woman by presenting the idea that all women are bad. She IS the rot in the culture
@@Emmanuel_EEE They should not. Marriage can only be sacramental if ordained by God. The women today are too out of line for a successful marriage…some men too..
Pearl is so focused on the superficial aspects of marriage that there’s no room for growth, forgiveness and love. She’s expecting people to go into marriage already perfect and never make a mistake. That has never once happened in a marriage. Like Trent said, men do better, work harder and are happier after getting married, marriage allows both to become better people.
There was never proof that those men werent already going to be successful prior to the marriage women could be selecting men who already have those traits attributing it to marriage is throwing a dart and painting a target around it
@@SteveJohnson-d1d If all you care about is money then go by that standard alone. It's shallow and meaningless. Marriage offers a whole lot more than more money. Though married men do work harder and garner more assets. Assets being a good wife, children, inlaws, more community, longer life, better quality of life and all the other things that Trent mentioned. You've clearly been snow jobbed by the poison pill bowel movement, but it's built on falsified stats, flagrant omissions and outright lies.
@@SteveJohnson-d1dActually, this is not true. We have studies that have done multivariate analysis that account for the marriage itself, and which show that the marriage is a meaningful factor for success in the workplace.
@@SteveJohnson-d1d I think it’s a combination. Women choose men with potential, and men with potential often perform better when they have a wife and family to motivate them.
Yea, you know here theme is to literally flipp the standards of women and men in marriage? Shansi basically demanding of women the exact same your average woman demands and demeans husband's these days
Pearl was outmatched before this even began. Outmatched in terms of intellect and research. Also, Pearl is extremely snarky and unlikable. I'm glad this debate happened to show all of this, but she did a disservice to herself.
@thundersmite2162 Pearl is right about a lot of things. But is wrong on the institution of marriage. Look up how many guys are single for example. It's just that her redpill accuses of women being this or that while also ignoring the men who are apart of the problem.
Listen to Pearl while there is still time. Trent is selling you a bill of goods. I’m not saying don’t get married, but take Pearls words seriously. She has way more practical knowledge then Trent
Focus on how you prepare for marriage. I've been married for almost 20 years and love my husband so much. What makes him happy is what makes me happy and he feels the same way about me. Pearl sounds like a very bitter fool. To say that she knows more than Trent is just silly.
@@annew6275I couldn’t agree more! Don’t listen to these people saying that marriage is going to destroy you. If you find the right person and both of you are committed to make each other happy, you will be fine. What makes me happy is what my husband loves to do and vice versa. We want the best for each other and I can’t imagine my life without him. We’ve been married for 2 years and sometimes if feels like a lifetime, it’s so good. I literally pray to God everyday to bless us with a long life together. There’s no better thing! Marriage made us way better.
@@mcsmoothie7052 Practical knowledge? She a perpetually single woman who can't even keep a boyfriend. She has the mentality of a teenage. Trent is married for over a decade w/a wonderful wife he loves, who makes him laugh and has several children. The way he and his wife look at one another w/ such love, lust and admiration is the ultimate. He's the model of what she can't even fathom.
In summation: Pearl thinks a woman is only worth how beautiful she is. If she’s fat? Not worthy. If she has had a sexual past trying to redeem herself from? Too damaged. I can only imagine how Pearl sees herself. Very sad perspective to hold so close, especially her being a woman herself. Lord have mercy.
To be completely fair, she totally caught Trent justifying low standards. Trent is right on marriage, but men need to grow a backbone and tell their wives it's not cute to be super overweight and unhealthy. Women need to do the same things with their husbands. Oue low stabdards for physical appearance are a huge issue
@winstonvontoast6163 Trent said it was "shallow" to ask your spouse to fix it though. Catholics are usually good about defending the importance of carnal experience which makes it more frustrating that Trent wanted to downplay physical appearance
@sivad1025 I think Trent's point was to not make beauty the be-all end-all. No one is going to maintain their youthful appearance forever. Trent is saying to look beyond the superficial. He is not saying lower your standards and settle. He's saying, "Don't have unrealistic expectations." We are not cartoon characters. We age and change.
1:48:27 Pearl lost the argument completely when she stated that men are the only ones who can have rational brains. When she resorted to insults, she knew she lost.
@theAwkwardAvacado True. She basically threw her entire debate away. Realistically, she doesn't even listen to herself. Her silly giggling when he challenged her arguments also lost the debate on individual points. He won on all points.
@@jasonellis8751 I find it ironic that she says things you would think men would agree with (she is by far on their side) but she is so damn annoying, I can't imagine she is "marriageable" herself. 🤢
I don't understand why people keep debating her, either. It's the same wimpy soy boys that don't have data to refute her points. This is almost identical to the time when she wrecked Klavan.
@@pmaitrasm Yeah tens of thousands of men who don't know how to be men. No one taught them. And certainly Pearl is not really helping them, she is just pointing fingers to women who also don't know how to be women.
I was a virgin on my wedding day. Not just that, but I had never even kissed a man before my husband. We have 1 baby and I currently weigh 118 lbs. I have no tattoos either. However, I do suffer from OCD and depression. I did have some student loan debt when I married too. I think that to meet every single one of her criteria is impossible. I can’t imagine what this person would look like.
It would look like a perfectly average woman a hundred years ago. Nothing she stated is actually hard to accomplish. It was literally the most common condition to find a woman in for most of human history.
The average man 100 years ago was probably looking at porn, cheating on his wife, and would hit her. This is what helped pushed the feminist revolution. Women would have to go back more than 100 years to find a perfectly average man.
@@yallcrazy302 That was every single woman on Earth a hundred years ago. You cannot simultaneously star eyes your very, very abnormal, wholesome experience without simultaneously agreeing that this rarity proves just how far women have fallen in the modern world.
As a happily married man, marrying my wife was by far the best decision I’ve ever made. I can’t imagine life being anywhere near as beautiful without her and my daughter. That being said, it does seem that the family court system is in need of some serious reform.
Her unpreparedness did Trent a disservice. I commend Trent for taking a debate that was so below his ability. With God's grace she will learn from what he presented her with.
@@calledtoromeI wonder if she’s projecting *because* she doesn’t think she’s worthy of marriage or a good man? She’ll never quit “reverse-simping” (even if her husband asks her to), she’ll never be objectively more beautiful as time goes on, she can’t argue, she doesn’t understand business, she believes men only want sex, sandwiches, and silence.. poor woman.
Pearl does not understand some very basic things 1. Logical fallacies 2. Sampling bias 3. Disincentives as opposed to incentives 4. Virtues 5. Marriage
It's funny you mention sampling bias. Trent is the one who uses a survey of STILL MARRIED men to argue that marriage makes men happier. Pearl pointed out that his stats about men being healthier and more successful in a marriage could also be based on sampling bias, since women prefer to marry healthy, successful men. He had absolutely no answer to that. Embarrassing on his part.
@@discussingsplinterlands7728 he can't help that you didn't comprehend his answer. Trent addressed that argument by saying at the very least marriage didn't make those men unhappy ergo, at the very least, marriage cannot reasonably be said to take happiness away, that's the argument. His surveys are massive, the idea that all those men were happy, handsome and successful is just ridiculous. Most men are just average like most women, they're not exceptional by definition. Multi level population level surveys with hundreds of thousands of randomized participants in a category is not a sampling bias, she just has an unproven explanation hypothesis. Even amongst divorced men, the majority go on to marry again hence they did not perceive marriage itself to be a bad deal. Pearl's only retort to this is that those men are irrational in her view. Pearl's sampling bias is her citing her interviews as evidence for a wider phenomenon when she specifically interviews a subsection of men with a specific experience, that's a blatant sampling bias. It would be like me interviewing a bunch of people suing hospitals about their experience with doctors and acting like that was representative of the average person visiting a hospital or if I interviewed a bunch of women who were beaten by their husbands about how violent men are and used that as evidence of the average man being violent.
@@Hearth123 He is talking about a survey of STILL MARRIED men. If you take out everybody who's marriage has failed, of course you will be left with more people who are not massively unhappy with their marriage. It's not difficult to understand. That's the same as if Pearl would refer to a study of only divorced men and take those results to speak for all men who ever got married. That would be equally ridiculous. I am not defending Pearl, btw. She is really bad at debates and bad at arguing. I am just saying that Trent did a pretty bad job.
In west marriage is a secular contract which heavily punishes men if they dont entertain women. But still chrstians forcing secular men to marry. No wonder Christianity is keep declining.
@@tomasrocha6139 She actually has a boyfriend and probably 100,000 men who would wife her. Only she since she out earns them she is likely to refuse marriage because just like she says “it’s crazy to sign a contract the other party is paid to break”. It very rare to see rich women marry significantly poorer men because they might end up like Kelly Clarkson. I guarantee Clarkson doesn’t take that risk again. Only we want to demand the typical man be even more reckless considering over 90% of the time it’s them paying alimony to women who left in no fault divorce cases.
@@tomasrocha6139 Sorry, the guy seems more about feelings than facts . He said corn stars are the same as guys who watch corn . Marry girls with stds and used a study from 1993 for dating. She had to explain that most people under 30 meet online
How often do we hear the ladies whinging about men "complaining" about being sick? So men can be resistant to going to doctors because it can be seen as weakness in men by the women.
@@dreamingmusic3299 not everything is women’s fault. Stop whining. Men are biologically less adverse to risk. Women tend to worry so they plead with their husbands to go to the doctor.
Other explanations are that (1) sickly men have a much harder time getting married, (2) women often divorce their husbands when they get seriously ill, and these "studies" always include divorced men in the category of "unmarried men", and (3) divorced men usually have financial problems thanks to the burden the state places on them to finance the lifestyle of their ex-wives, and financial problems often lead to health problems.
@@adrianmizen5070 false most studies its the other way around where men leave their sick wives at a greater rate than women leaving their sick husbands
That's one layer of the hypocrisy. There's a second (at least a second) layer as well: Pearl (paraphrasing): "men don't like it when women are constantly interrupting them and being condescending" in the same breath she condescends and constantly interrupts Trent.
That's one thing that annoys the mess outta me about her. She does the same thing that the 'modern woman'. Talks down on woman for doing exactly what she herself does lol
@@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024, I suppose Trent should stick to his monologues because his devotees are not comfortable seeing him facing uncomfortable questions.
Sooo she herself said she would be a long term girlfriend that marriage isn’t a necessity and then criticize women for listing marriage as not #1 on their priority list? The call is coming from inside the house.
She clearly wants a husband but is probably too embarrassed to admit it. Not to mention it gives amo to her disagreers as her whole platform is "modern women bad" but despite showing herself to be the ideal wife and not like other girls, she has yet to be picked
Pearl claims she is Catholic, but because she does not believe in marriage that can mean only one of two things. Either she believes people should just have sex out of wedlock (a mortal sin in the Catholic Church), or no sex outside of marriage and humanity goes extinct.
@@SteveJohnson-d1dI think their next debate should be why don’t Pearl and the men who agree with her move on from complaining about marriage? Why doesn’t the whining stop if they know they’re right?
@@SteveJohnson-d1dthat’s not how debates work. She made the affirmative claim that marriage is not good for men. Trent’s position is inherently that marriage is not not good for men. As Trent said in his opening, Trent only has to show that the affirmative is not true, not prove a second alternative affirmative. Pearl showed that there are a lot of issues with modern legal marriage, but did not prove that marriage is a bad deal for men as a general rule.
If your argument rests on people should just be nice or something equivalent, it's bad. How much has "grace" done for anything else that that concept is used for, like the government for one example.
@@MorrisJohn-vo2vn grace has never equated to "just being nice". It's deciding to forgive someone's action whether they "deserve" it or not, but I believe it's especially important to offer to those who have made efforts to grow from their shortcomings. Grace also isn't about what we can get out of it A legal example could be a pardon, if that's what you're looking for
@@MorrisJohn-vo2vn if you don't want to practice grace, that's your choice; but if you need a systemic historic precedent for that decision, then... 1. I'm going to question if you know what grace is and 2. I'm not the one to ask bc i dont believe history or the world determines right and wrong.
In an interesting way, Pearl understands sin and the depravity of the world. She actually gets that our world is fallen and it causes deep brokenness between us. But Pearl has no idea of the antidote. She doesn’t know how Jesus Christ and the Gospel empowers us (both men and women, by the way) to live a virtuous, self-sacrificing life. This is why she gets mind-blown by descriptions of Christian marriages, where there is mutual submission and where both people die to themselves daily to make the marriage work - and the deep joy they share in that endeavor. She lives in a world where sin is the end of the story. And that’s a dark place.
Christian marriage does not have 'mutual submission'. That is a feminist worldview, not a Christian one. List any verse in any book of the Bible that commands men to submit to their wives. Christian marriage cannot be a thing without Christian ethics. Most modern women do not follow even the most basic of Christian sexual ethics, being virginal, nor do they follow the actual Christian marriage requirements of submitting to their husbands authority over them.
As she does with any debate she’s in. “Women gain weight lol” isn’t an argument. Her career should have been over after she was on H3H3. It was that bad.
She was out of her league, but she exposed Trent Horn lack of concern for the American legal system and his simping for women by not holding them to standards.
Nope. Clearly, not the format Pearls is used to, but all her points still stand…. Even if less than eloquent. -Don’t marry a wh*re. -Don’t marry a single mother. -Women are paid to leave men. -Marriage is bad for men. All that, still stands
Having lots of "un-marriable" women doesn't mean marriage is bad. Having a rotten culture that forgot what marriage is and is for doesn't make it bad...
It does though. Having lots of roach infested restaurants does indeed make going out to eat a bad deal. If someone had only two options, 1) Stay at home or 2) Eat at the gross unsanitary restaurant. Staying home is the good deal. Modern women are overwhelmingly bad deals, and therefore, the majority of men cannot find a good woman to marry, and therefore should not.
@@shawn4110 the flaw in your logic is treating marriage as a lottery. I wouldn’t marry a random woman much less date one if the pool is American women my age. However, just because the average woman isn’t worthwhile, that doesn’t mean worthwile no longer exist. Even if most restaurants are gross, you still have the ability to check a restaurant before ordering. With the right girl, marriage is worth it. Everyone can and should reasonable reduce risk through proper discernment of if a person is marriage material.
@@shawn4110 Same problem as other reply. The roach infestation is the problem, not eating at restaurants. The roaches make it more difficult to find a safe restaurant but do not affect the morality of eating at a restaurant.
It’s interesting, I’ve noticed that every time Pearl doesn’t have an argument she just laughs the other person off as if their argument is stupid. I noticed she did the same thing when she debated Michael Knowles. Damn this woman is insufferable
Horn and Knowles picked their opponents wisely, as Ben Shapiro often does. There are scads of MGTOW men on YT who would have loved to debate Horn on this topic but he wouldn't dare.
She can’t get married. She’s a bitter mid to late 30 year old. That got grifted & catfished & now is a pick me girl. She’s the Dave Rubin of females. The guys she simps for say “I’d never pick you” & she’s like “I get it” Like Rubin with Ben
@@PEPSEPshe is 27 , she has a boyfriend. She says things are unfortunate very true in marriage. Marriage is a raw deal for men especially in the west . Don’t hate the players , hate the game.
The reason Pearl sees women as low-worth is because she’s sees herself that way and is projecting that on other women. It’s just sad to see her on anything
I’d love to hear what the women in her family think. Do they all see themselves as the good kind of women or are they offended? Were they terrible role models? Idk, I’m curious.
@@caseyk.1386 She said her parents were married! I imagine it was a good home. I also saw in a twitter post from a former friend of hers that she changed her personality considerably when she realized she could build a following off of what she says now. I think she has a sister too?
Pearl make a lot of great points (I have seen a lot of her content). There's the Catholic wishful thinking and there's reality. If you have to shame men into getting married, then it's probably not good. Shaming as a working tactic is reaching its limit.
It seems that Pearl completely disregards the dignity of women during this interview. The way that she talked about women in this interview is absolutely horrible.
She doesn't like other women. Have a look at her tweets... The stuff she says is either from a place of bitterness, resentment, overall dislike, whatever... Or just pure rage baiting/engagement farming. Probably a mixture of both. She knows what she's doing because she appeals to a particular group of men who will always follow her content based on some of the things she says.
Woman who makes a living by getting attention from lonely men on the Internet calls succesful married man with three children and a wonderful stay-at-home wife a "simp". What a time to be alive.
So I have to ask, why is a happily married man debating with a single woman dedicated to demeaning marriage, about the merits or non-merits of marriage?? 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ It’s impossible for her to know anything!!
@@MoniqueGonzalez1212 yeah, I think that it's a mistake to give her the attention that she clearly is after. But to play the devil's advocate, maybe it's because she's popular and has a large audience that needs to hear a better message than what they get with her.
Pearl saying she doesn’t want to discuss religion after getting flamed by Michael Knowles and now coming on to debate Trent Horn on Matt Fradd’s Pints with Aquinas is the biggest cop out of the decade
Because she excuses and condones men cheating and says women need to just get over it/they're the ones at fault if they choose to divorce for that reason.
@@SJ-ru4ej If God's creative will is free, then: "God is not obliged to create every individual" and if that is true, no one or nothing forces God to create: *God freely chooses to create those he wishes to create, he creates knowing that some will be damned and others will be saved. God therefore has a free decision not to create those who he knows will not accept him, and yet, God wants to create them even knowing that they will end up eternally in hell suffering torment*, because that torment and suffering shows the glory of God, which is better than not create them and them avoiding the suffer with fire that never goes out. Just like God did not wish to forgive the angels who sinned and did not offer them redemption. God decides who He creates, who He saves and who He forgives and who He allows to suffer eternally everything emanates from God. God did not forgive the angels who sinned, but cast them into hell and left them in darkness, chained and kept for judgment. 2 Peter 2:4
I am not native speaker. What flamed means. I only know Knowles was completly exposed as a feminist simp clown whem he said women can be whores and thats not a red flag.
The basis of her argumentation is actually really simple. We live in a fallen world and because that is the case there will be many instances of horror stories that happen. So what is the logical response and solution to that? Hers is neither logical nor a solution. Her solution is for all people to embrace the fallen life. To presume failure and evil and give nobody a chance. To instead shack up and when times are slightly tough abandon the other person and the kids. To instead focus on selfishness and vanity and self serving pleasures. Then in such an unstable situation people of course will choose not to conceive a child since they have no secure foundation to build a family upon. So the society will go extinct into nothingness and be forever forgotten. What a plan. The alternative plan would to be the change you want to see in the world. Dedicate yourself to the old ways. Learn from the righteous who came before you and embrace their values. Be a leader worth following. Then you will attract the right type of person to join you in your journey. Prioritize their values and faithfulness rather than their looks. Give yourself selflessly to your new family. Don’t see failure as an option. Do what it takes and work through problems together. Have the hard conversations. Inspire the person to be their best self. Lead by example. I can go on but you get the point. Just because the world is fallen doesn’t mean you have to be. You can be the light in the dark world. Even if you suffer the betrayal she warns can happen you can take comfort in your honouring your vows and pray for your spouse daily. Life is hard but we will get through it rain or shine.
I can’t even watch her. She’s disturbing and rude. This is not a debate. It’s her delusional , nonsensical “hissy fitting” attitude. Moreover she doesn’t understand business agreements clearly and she also doesn’t really care what Trent thinks, she’s determined to drive her People magazine’s narrative into the ground. Blah, blah, blah. And her rudeness to Trent! Ugh! All her fact finding is self serving too.
I can't even watch Trent. He’s disturbing and rude. This is not a debate. It’s his delusional , nonsensical “hissy fitting” attitude. Moreover he doesn’t understand business agreements clearly and he also doesn’t really care what Pearl thinks. Blah, blah, blah. And his rudeness to Pearl! Ugh! All his fact finding is self serving too.
I agree with Pearl. These people are so out of touch and refusing and ignoring the huge issue with modern women (and men). That's the issue with old school conservatives. They have ideals that are not based in reality. Should things be the way conservatives say it should be? Sure. But that isn't the reality thats actually happening.
Agreed. For whatever reason, Pearl's concern for men has resulted in her hating women. She's the archetypal overbearing mother. She meets divorced men, pities them, and feels the need to be their mother and protect them by preventing men from getting married. No different than a mother whose son grows up, but she keeps telling him women are evil and no good so that she can keep her son home for herself. Rather than encouraging men to be good and find good women, she treats men like victims and babies. It's degrading to both women, and to the men she claims to be so concerned for.
I think she is more shallow. The vast majority of people I know have settled down with average men (some above average, some below but the majority of them are average). She is 27 and should have been able to find a man who she could marry, but she isn't married. She is not ugly and she is at an average weight, she is tall but I know women her height who have husbands. It could be something else, but it wouldn't surprize me if she was picky. There is nothing bad in being picky, you might just not be able to get what you want.
I hope Pearl's fans heard what she argued for: she believes a wealthy woman who completely abandons her 3 young children and husband to start a new life with a higher status man, leaving her family in poverty *should not pay anything for child support*. How is this different than radical feminists' takes?
@@kojo2773 I wish the laws were more fair, but I think Trent has a good point when he points out that the alternatives to marriage have much worse statistics than marriage. Marriage might be risky, but it still is far better for men over all statistically than being forever single or cohabiting. It might feel good to say that men will withhold marriage until the laws change, but I worry that it is going to backfire on those men and leave them lonely and unfulfilled.
@@kojo2773 Just staying out of legal marriages altogether makes sense to me (though I have not thought it through). There are drawbacks to not being married legally though: You would miss out on some tax breaks though and you wouldn’t be able to have medical authority over each other in moments of crisis or join into a family name as easily. You also legally wouldn’t be the go to person for your spouse which would bother me. If you did separate, the separation has the potential to be much more messy and less clear. And custody would be much harder to get for the father if the couple was never married. But I guess you take risks no matter what and it’s about deciding what feels like appropriate risks to each individual.
There was a “study” done showing that men prefer women who are debt free, virgins, no tattoos and not overweight. That’s why she focuses on them, and she said X% of women have one tattoo.
This makes me so sad 😢 I am currently pregnant and I can’t imagine my husband demanding that I don’t gain weight when it is a natural sacrifice to bring life into the world!
Pearl understood the: “you can interrupt and guide the conversation during cross examination” as “this is the time for you to be the most obnoxious woman to ever step on this earth”
Too bad it was much worse than that. She disregarded all the rules of debate from beginning to end. Every bit of it was a time for her to be obnoxious and interrupt him the whole time. Didn't matter if it was his turn to speak. Heck, she even blabbered on through Matt's commercial, you could still hear her.
The State does not agree. The State has guns, the Church doesn't. If many people are not willing to treat it as a sacrament, then that by definition means that many people should not get married, obviously. If Catholics actually cared about the sacrament of marriage they would have long ago refused to participate in the State version which literally allows men to marry men. You don't get to hold up your sacrament while sacrificing it to the State who literally defines marriage to be the exact opposite of what you claim it is.
@@vortexlight8387 This debate was between Trent and Pearl; a man and a woman. The man was the more rational one over the woman grifter simping for men.
My question for Pearl is this: Why would I take marriage advice from an unmarried woman? I don’t take medical advice from unlicensed doctors, or get my vehicle serviced by a mechanic who’s never touched a car before
Trent isn't qualified either by your standard. He's not an expert on marriage. I've heard lawyers, social science experts, and people in law that say most of what Pearl says unfortunately
Trent demolished Pearl in this debate. I pray this is just a phase, and that Pearl will realize her identity as a daughter of Christ and come back to the Catholic Church 🙏🏿
@@gideondavid30I have to agree with that to a point. Nobody wants to deal with the reality that the scriptures clearly tell us that the man is the head of the house and the marriage. It is the failure to observe that formula that causes so much marital failure today.
he made no points that people who didnt already agree with him would care about he never addressed any point he even conflated men who watch porn with women that do porn like they are even remotely the same she didnt preform well and still cleaned his clock
@@SteveJohnson-d1d oh I don't think she cleaned his clock at all. He clearly won the debate, but the primary reason that he won is because she performed so poorly.
Trent smoked her. Pearl likes to talk loud and fast so that people can’t hear the other (smarter) person. She made some decent points, but Trent tore them apart.
That's what I took from this, too. She asks a question and promptly throws at Trent multiple other facts in succession, while he is still calmly trying to answer her first point. It makes it look like she has a stronger opinion than she actually does, because he did dismantle her arguments pretty easily when actually given an opportunity to tackle them.
While I agree that marriage and family is the foundation of a society, I dont agree with trent about being a corn star or someone with STDs is not a deal breaker. Pearl is right on that one.
@@beewithab6122she’s not right on that one because it’s not something you or I get to decide for somebody else. Everybody has to make those decisions for themselves, when and if they are faced with them, and the reality is, the vast majority of men will NEVER face that decision. Most women are not current or former porn stars.
@@beewithab6122 when it comes to such things, I agree with Trent. It’s something to be aware of, and is a huge red flag. However, they’re people. If they regret their actions, will never do them again, and repent, they have no right to be completely out of the loop. It’s up to you wether you make that choice or not though. When it comes to STDs, it’s a tougher answer. You may not be able to have marital relations with them, because if the transmission of disease being a risk. However, marriage also cannot be barred or should not be out of the question in such situations, since children can still be a part of that family through adoption or foster care.
@@katieociardha2196 that is easy, if you're a female adults woman who doesn't complain how much birthing hurts , or male man adults who work hard laboriously which women doesn't really have to at all because of all the machines which help you by years to do work you dont need to now which creates softer females, men who i think should be 100% in construction because were male should work the hardest jobs and females the easier but lower paying jobs, that make more logical sense, very reasonable, now we dont have to imagine, but look at a man who works hard and hurts busts his grinding testicles and be happy you were born female. Simply be thankful , what we all need is strength from God and which we lack both God and strength. It's really not that hard to work hard. What is hard is where do you gain the power , spiritually mainly where we get it so we have to pray God transfers us into physically powerful . Amen see it isn't so hard.
@@josuejimenez3562That’s not the point there’s plenty of medical reasons why a Woman could gain weight out of her control. She didn’t pull up one statistic that was correct, I agree its more difficult to date but she’s mainly aiming at Woman. Men are the ones who propose if we’re going off of a traditional marriage.
Wow. Only halfway through this and I’ve gone from someone who previously found Pearl to have a few interesting points and be entertaining to thinking she’s boundlessly shallow and annoying. It’s rare to see someone get so badly beaten in a debate but not have the cognitive capacity to recognize it.
@@sylon7717 An important point to make during a time she’s explicitly told not to interrupt AND where she has time afterwards to say something. Cope reason, she was acting in bad faith as a grifter. Simple as.
The failings of women to be wives and men to be husbands does not diminish marriage, it only speaks to a failed society
Pearl clearly sees marriage as finding a flesh mate in a worldly sense, not a soul mate in a spiritual sense. Marriage = materialism is her equation
Agreed. Especially with these stats being predominantly secular.
Also the concept that men and women are less moral and the law isn't fair therefore we should not do the right thing is odd to me. I'd rather have a struggling people in a struggling society to try to the right thing in the right way and maybe fail, rather than just fail harder and never even try to make marriage work.
Very well said.
well said
It was strange listening to Pearl who says women ought to be obedient when she had a hard time obeying debate rules.
She will never find a husband
Excellent observation ❤
True😣
clowns. obedient to their husband, blind hate it was even explained by trent
😅
As a married man, I reject the idea that men just want "sex, silence, and sandwiches". I like talking to my wife. She's funny and she laughs at my stupid jokes. I want companionship and love. Not a sex doll.
The "sex, silence, and sandwiches" stuff is just a saying in the red pill that means simple and non dramatic
@@DManCAWMasterNo, it means a silent and submissive sex doll, like in Islam. That’s why the Tates and Sneako converted.
Same!!! They have a unique way of looking at things. That’s why I like it when women speak up and challenge me. It helps me to be a better man and be a better Catholic
@@nomadic_orthodox no it means not a masculine woman, whos obnoxious, goes on girls night out and sleeps with random dudes. its funny how OP says "she laughs at my stupid jokes" like hes homer simpson, which is a character made to make men look stupid and simps. and also, if she laughs at your stupid jokes, but dsnt give you sex, are you cool with that? nope. because Sex, silence and sandwiches come first, then you can focus on the small things like her laughing at you because you make stupid jokes.
@@vortexlight8387 Pearl is the most masculine woman in the podcast world.
its wild seeing a man defending women against a woman belittling women. wild, i say
Nah, it's based. It is nice to see an argument where the other side isn't just arguing in its self interest. Tho, I guess it is in the self interest of a married Catholic to defend marriage.
It shouldn’t be uncommon (same with vice versa) cause a good person should always fight against someone belittling another.
he has a wife i sure hope he would stick up for her, pearl is js sad sad sad
@@theblueheart199 Ikr I don’t think this has ever taken place in history haha
Bro sidestepped their disrespect, feminism and promiscuity because marriage good. Pearl be like, you shouldn't, tho. Too many women with unnecessary baggage.
23:59 ... As a married man going through chemo for leukemia, I can't imagine how I'd be doing this without my wife. The fact that she arranges child care for our 5 kids nearly every day of the week so that she can come sit with me for ~2 hours a day (kids are not allowed on this floor) is ironclad testimony of her character, devotion, and love.
Sending prayers your way!
I'm so glad you have a great woman, and a beautiful family to keep you going.
After one year of marriage my husband had stage 4 cancer. I took six months off my job to take care of him at home. It was very trying time and he was very nasty to me during that period. He pulled through and is ok. He then had a flesh eating bacteria and then a speech impediment and I was the one who noticed in all these issues something was off and advocated for tests and things from doctors.
Till today he says if not for his wife he would be gone from this world. Meanwhile I see it as when you love someone and care about them this is simply what life is about.
@@carinamarie2663 yeah that wont work....
@@serenity1255 - And you are VERY rare for a woman.
That is both a compliment to you as well as a very sad observation of women in general.
I am blown away that Pearl cannot conceive of a marriage where spouses extend grace to each other.
I’ve had coworkers that have been in marriages like that and it makes people bitter.
I like how Pearl's like (paraphrasing) "men don't like it when women are constantly interrupting them and being condescending" in the same breath she condescends and constantly interrupts Trent.
She hangs out with party guys who are red pill hedonists.
@@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024well she doesn’t like him…..so….
She’s not talking about how she feels, she’s talking about what actually happens.
Never did I think “Do you think you simp for men?” Would come out of Trent Horns mouth during a debate 😂
I’m glad he said it. Her smile said she knows she does but she’s a liar and couldn’t admit it.
Could’ve sworn he asked James White that before
Trent horns is a simp
@jeantanamoamen, Trent’s simping for Christ led me home to Christ’s Church. ❤
She's a sister,.daughter and girlfriend who sees the issues men face and speaks up for them.
He's the man here. He should be above personal attacks.
You can tell Pearl’s success on social media is dependent on having incredibly overgeneralized and black & white thinking. Trent giving nuanced answers frustrates her. Anyone who has such black & white views is bad news and will lead to despair. True love and companionship is found in the gray with work toward mutual respect and admiration.
Your mutual respect means nothing if you wife tires of you and pulls the plug. The comments on this thread are so ignorant.
All of the men whose marriages ended were once loving, trusting partners.
It is the total imbalance in power once a marriage ends which is so outrageous and a genuine cause for concern for any man contemplating marriage.
@@markmooroolbark252maybe if you subscribe to degeneracy in your world views lmao!
She thinks that the woman needs to respect and admire her man, but the other way around makes him a simp. She's pathetic.
@@markmooroolbark252 100% agree. The decision to get married is not nuanced, you either get married or don't get marrird. As a man in 2024 you have to be a complete idiot to get married, co-habitate or have kids. Divorce court is brutal. Custody laws are completely biased, your kids are not yours - they belong to your spouse! You are lucky if she lets you see them once a week.
@@markmooroolbark252Thank you! Most arguments I've seen are clueless as hell. Painfully so.
For someone who thinks women should be submissive and docile, Pearl sure loves being abrasive and disruptive.
That's why it's likely she'll never get married. If marriage is such a bad deal for men, shouldn't a woman who got a marriage proposal feel that much more grateful?
She is there to debate him not marry him. The topic of the debate is whether women in general are wife material, and not whether Pearl is.
Yeah she's not trying to marry him he's already married so she doesn't have to be submissive to him why is there supposed to be submissive to their husbands. This just proves that most people are more worried about having to follow the leader of their family then they are getting a husband
@@oldscorp yeah but she is bashing the modern woman nowadays and debating how they should be for marriage, relationships etc. yet acting like the complete opposite. As she loves to claim that women only offer sex and looks yet she does not have the looks and is expired like she would say (old)
@@gabby-ue8sh By that logic an oncologist should have his medical license revoked when diagnosed with cancer, or people should start smoking if a smoker advises them not to.
“The success of a marriage is not about finding the most perfectly compatible person but choosing to love the imperfect person you chose to marry” Jason Evert
Not at the expense of non-repentance and non compliance to duty ad honor
Incorrect. You marry someone with similar core values and believe that God is at the center of their marriage.
@@mattsharkey8437 sure, but you're still marrying someone who is a sinner and who may or may not agree with you 100% on everything.
@@Carolinefdq I don't care. If you don't have the same core values and believe in my faith, then no dice.
If that was the case why did catholic marriage rates declined?
Or a lot of guys dropping out of society?
It does matter other wise Paul would not advice others to be equally unyolked.
Come on guys let's work with reality here.
Men nor good women are asking for a perfect spouse there are serious problems that need to be addressed.
I think we can all agree the true Winner of this debate is Matt Fradd for hosting and moderating this for all of us.
I just wished he had moderated better. Pearl interrupting every 2 seconds, laughing at his opponent and having no manners needed more corrections and Trent should have gotten some extra time because of that.
@@MicaTuHermanaMayorYeah, she definitely interrupted far, far, too much, but to be fair Matt did give Trent more time for his closing statement, and Trent was pretty good at telling her to not interrupt him, himself.
Unfortunately, I think Matt was the big letdown in this debate. Very poorly moderated. Massive missed opportunity.
Man said it for us all
@@Danboy0001 I kinda disagree, I think Matt did a great job as a moderator, I think the issue was just that Pearl rambled and wasted her own time monologuing rather than engaging with the debate, she is however able to do that during her time if she chooses to do so, it obviously doesn't really contribute to a meaningful debate and is going pretty much guarantee that she loses the debate, but that isn't the moderators fault.
Pearl’s cross exam was painful. Barely asked questions. When she did ask them, didn’t give time to answer.
The guy pretty much did the same
@@josuejimenez3562I'm going to watch it and see if youre anywhere near the truth
I am screaming inside
The point of cross-examination isn't to ask actual questions, it's to lead the witness to give answers that support your point. Part of the idea is you force them to answer 'yes' or 'no' to complex, loaded, or misleading questions that require qualified answers ('yes, but ...'), but don't allow them to qualify those answers. Then you kinda soapbox in between. But not only was she kinda incoherent in her soapboxing, she also couldn't do the typical strategy because this isn't court and Trent was free to refuse to give her the simplistic answers that he'd have been required to give in a court, under threat of jail.
Her rude attitude and childish mind for me is reason why her family haven’t any problems send young daughter/sister for another continent in oposite side of globe. Like you know normally rest of family try change that idea like : you are young woman and being alone in different continent without opportunity help you if something happens, but with pearl I would only say : good luck in London!:)
During Trent's closing statement, when Pearl tried to interrupt him, his "Be obedient, quiet," was such a great stab.
Love that
Are they married?
@@DSN262They aren't married, she isn't married.....and not even a steady long term boyfriend but easily led men will tune in to hear her 'Expert' advice and memorised talking points that she has never and will never experience as a female
@@DSN262 he's just giving her practice to be obedient like she said women should be
@@DSN262Pearl doesn’t believe that submissiveness to a man is exclusive to marriage
Trent is an intellectual powerhouse. He always Steelmans his opponents points and tackles it head on. He’s the reason why I’m taking a second look at the Catholic faith I left a decade ago. Trent if you see this, you’re doing great man! Keep it up
You should look into Dr. Peter Kreeft then and soon I will be saying welcome home!
Scott Hahn is an amazing source as well! God Bless and good luck with your research in the Catholic faith!
Yes, he does. It's one of the reasons I like watching him so much. Gavin Ortlund (who Trent has debated, hosted by Matt actually,) does the same. I like that he always tries to represent the other persons beliefs in a way they would actuaĺy recognise and agree with. Trent takes care with this too and they both make a distinction between doctrine and official teaching and how the laity actually practice.
So many Christian youtubers don't make an effort to do this and I think charity, honesty and integrity demand this so I love seeing it in those two guys.
Trent is going to wipe the floor with Pearl here, (respectfully of course!) Tbh I think it's beneath him but it's those who follow Pearl, the redpillers that he's trying to reach, not convince her so it's worth it I guess!
He did not steelman Pearl here.
To steelman her argument would be to admit that she has valid points about marriage being a risk. He did not do that.
@@braedenh6858Admission is conceding. There would be no debate. 🙄
Pearl argues like she’s a teenage boy. Can’t stop talking about weight. Sex, silence, and sandwiches. Sex and food are great and needed in a relationship but my husband actually enjoys talking to me, values my opinions, and asks for my input. I’m 13 pounds heavier now than I was before I got pregnant with our first and he couldn’t care less because I take care of our kids all day and am still breastfeeding. A number on a scale means nothing to him. It’s never a conversation. Under her logic, he should divorce me. I don’t see any decent man wanting to put up with a combative, argumentative and smug woman like this.
God bless
Actual love is something she has never experienced.
She so degenerate it hurts I hope she gets a life
Agreed.
@leaf842 she's on I suspect because of her interview with Michael Knowles and how she claimed to be Catholic but openly rejected the Church's teachings to his face.
I've *thoroughly* enjoyed when he asked Pearl, "do you think that you simp for men?"
She laughed before she answered because she knows it's true. She'll excuse ANY bad behavior of a man but will look for any little issue with women as to a reason why they don't deserve to be married.
My FAVORITE part!
This is so true!
It's crazy what Pearl says about marriage and how much she simps to/about men.
It's true. All she shows is that she craves male attention and found a way to make money doing it... at the expense of women.. and people like Trent who are actually there to have an honest conversation.
Pearl is not marriage material if we use her standards.
Based Kermit pfp
She's admitted to this in past videos. She's talked about having focused on all the wrong things in her early adult life, because that's what western culture trains young women to do.
Open your eyes and examine western culture from an objective standpoint.
The modern woman is not marriage material.
Most women are not marriage material.
@@mambofuego5101maybe but then neither are most men
Yes she is. Her only standards are: 1) no tattoos, 2) no Debt, 3) not a high “body count”
I’ve said many times, I don’t think Pearl actually believes most of what she professes. She’s just found a way to make a living making other people upset and garnering hate clicks.
She's been demonetized for months.
She DARES to argue against Wahmanism.
I like how Pearl's like (paraphrasing) "men don't like it when women are constantly interrupting them and being condescending" in the same breath she condescends and constantly interrupts Trent.
Accurate.
@dreamingmusic3299 that's why she gotta rage bait to get bitter men's cash.
@@MilahanPhilosophersCorner - Well done making fun of people's tragedies.
How ... Christian ... of you.
Never seen Trent so visibly annoyed with someone.
That's what I thought watching! I need to learn from him. His patience goes a long way when speaking to people like this.
Because he’s in his feelings and not rational.
You should see his debate on Whatever with destiny where destiny began to justify bestiality. Trent, completely justified, was rather annoyed and called him insane lol
@@folofus4815he lost his patience with destiny on the abortion debate too, can’t blame him cuz destiny constantly weasels around
Yes, annoyed and it seemed like he was in disbelief at how dumb everything she said was.
She evaded his questions, spoke over him and refused give straight answers. Everything “depends”.
Go watch Andrew Wilson vs Lauren Chen. Your arguememts fall apart real quick.
@@DirewolfMemento The issue is that people don’t understand what marriage is and it’s purpose. Matrimony was created for the protection of the mother. Mater is Latin for mother. It’s not a woman vs men battle. As Trent stated, right now there are men and women who lack virtue. This is probably due to the breakdown of the family. Most men in jail were abandoned by their fathers. We all have a father but not everyone is raised by them. Marriage is for the purpose of tying children to their parents and parents to each other. Another problem is that people are not considering virtue when they choose a spouse. They think going into marriage is going to somehow transform the person. We have seen how bad the breakdown of the family has affected children. We need more holy marriages, not less. Also, I am talking about life-long sacramental marriages not civil unions where it is permissible to divorce your spouse for any reason or no reason at all.
Check out the Ruth Institute channel on the topic of marriage. Marriage matters. We have enough children abandoned by their parents. Do you know what it’s like to show up to your dad or mom’s house and feel like it’s not your home? To see that your younger half siblings have their mom and a dad living together but you don’t? To see family pictures on the wall but none of them include your other parent?
@@user-ks3qr5fk6m any non sacramental marriage isn't marriage its just debauchery, sex outside of marriage ot adultery. Without God and the unification of him, it is not marriage. It cannot be anything else. We shouldn't encourage people to sin. Because that is sin.
This is what I mean though. People are out of touch. You say probably because the breakdown of the family. But I and pearl tell you the exact reason and you refuse to listen to them. The solution to the marriage crisis isn't to just "get married anyway" or ask men to take the risk and find love. (In a perfect world it would be) but men are literally screwed in divorce court. And the divorce rates with young modern women are so high and not for reasons you might think. We need to change the laws back to more traditional ways.
Contraception is the reason people don't have kids.
wow my reply was deleted. O:
@@DirewolfMemento Mine too. Oh well..
If we aren’t using a Christian perspective about marriage, then why should we presume women should be obedient to their husbands?
Bingo
Because on average, the husband has greater capabilities to be a consistent protector and provider in the long term compared to the wife. Being obedient to the husband will make it easier for the wife to be protected and provided for. It can be a simple survival tactic based on quid pro quo.
Because it would be the only possible incentive for a man to invest and commit to a woman. Even without a Christian ethical system, you will still have a basic trading of obligations.
Stripping away any ethical duties, only leaves trades. What do I get out of this, and what do you get?
Adding back in the Christian ethic though, and modern women actually become way worse. If modern men held women to a Christian ethical standard before marriage, less than 5% would be marriageable. Meanwhile, the State doesn't care about even one feature of covenantal marriage, and has literally defined out ALL of the features Catholics would consider foundational to marriage. Add these things together and no one can possible make an argument for why anyone, especially not Catholic men, should participate in the State's marriage farce.
@@PaulLeEtudiant but most men don’t provide and protect anymore nor do they want to. Our culture doesn’t teach that any longer and many women out earn their husbands now and have higher level careers. Only traditionally minded Christian men see the value in this anymore. Marriage really only makes sense if viewed a the sacrament that it is where the women submit and obey and the men provide and protect. Outside the lenses of this it doesn’t really make sense. Where is the motivation to stay and fight for a relationship if one’s main goal is their own personal happiness? If neither party goes into a marriage understanding this it’s most likely going to fail. Most don’t that’s why the divorce rate is so high.
Because she's a simp.
I would never want Pearl to speak on my behalf as a woman. Single or married. I don’t think a man would either.
Her positions have only gotten more extreme over the few years she’s had any type of social media presence, yet she’s still single. Why isn’t she getting followed around all day with proposals? She’s masculine, loud, a boss babe, not a virgin, prioritizes a career with men who work under her. Based on her whole demeanor here, I just don’t see her being that quiet, obedient wife she demands women to be who’s going to cook and say “yes dear” all day long.
100 percent!
She is smart girl
There’s a reason they only invite Pearl to these debates.
Andrew Wilson could easily argue her positions and win against Trent but again. There’s a reason Pearl is the only one invited.
I don’t think Andrew is the best representative, either. He married a woman who already had kids with 2 other men and he made her take a DNA test when she got pregnant again.
I listened to the first half of this interview at work, and as soon as I got off work, I bought an engagement ring. Thank you, Pearl, Trent, and Matt for inspiring me to get the ball rolling on marriage :)
Bro decided to get married over a TH-cam video? 😂
Yayyy for marriage🤣🤣🤣
@@felipetejeda7545 😂😂 Not quite. I was planning to go shopping today anyway, but watching this debate fired me up before I left
Congratulations to you and your future fiancé!!
Awesome! Marriage is awesome! Best thing ever❤
I feel like Pearl is trying to reason why she isn't married. That's why when she refers to women she says "we"
Good catch. IMO than nonstop yelling about “after 25 y woman lost value” is for excuses what she is single, like: because my age so it’s “logic” that younger women take man in my age or from my generation. Like : I can’t control what’s men like and that why, not because like some “haters” lied that no one wants me or I’m masculine, it’s age, force of nature.
She says she's not going to debate the religious aspect.
But then she says women should be obedient, which is a religious argument. It says in the bible that women should submit to their husbands. The secular law doesn't say that.
This girl is confused.
The law doesn't say that indeed. Which is the entire point. The law doesn't include a single feature of Catholic marriage so why are all the Catholics participating in State marriage?
'Women should obey their husbands' is not just a Biblical argument. The only reason a man should protect and provide for a woman is that she is obedient to him. That is a purely secular quid pro quo as well.
She's going to be embarrassed in 10 years when she wakes up and sees how dumb she was.
its biological, hence why religion adopted it, not the other way around. trend said "the man has to provide" where in secular law does it say men have to provide? your own logic used against you.
@@vortexlight8387it isn't biological at all. Men don't do any of the protecting or providing. Women die more in the hands of men than they are protected by them
@@Nish.05 Woman don't meed any protection or providing, biologically women are disposable sex after childbirth
Oh my gosh, Trent demonstrated saintly levels of patience here. Thank you, Trent. It's inspiring.
I like how Pearl's like (paraphrasing) "men don't like it when women are constantly interrupting them and being condescending" in the same breath she condescends and constantly interrupts Trent.
Imagine being successful, happily married and with three kids, just to be called a "simp" by a woman who makes a profit from the attention of lonely men on the Internet.
exactly!!! it takes that level to converse with the evilness in her arguments. the devil loves to irritate us.
@@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024 see tho, she demostrated her point tho, wasn't Trent visibly bother LOL
Some people say he looked annoyed and because of that he’s too emotional. I’m like what!?!? Having someone interrupt you mid sentence just you can loose your train of thought IS ANNOYING. He’s a guy, not Gandhi.
I find it hilarious that pearl wants yes/no answers to vague questions, yet during Trent's cross she's all "well it depends"
Pearl interrupting is so annoying. No wonder she’s not married by her own standards.
He did it too
True and this even more contrary with her :yes or no like some interrogation when she speak. Her face expression when she lost logic has misery vibe, good thriller from 90’.
She has 5 talking points and no amount of logic can make her stop citing them.
5 talking points from misogynists or from studies that she's deliberately or out of ignorance misinterpreted.
It's because she doesn't believe what she says, she just repeats and follows where the redpill goes. She's a grifter and has been trying find fame/success on the internet for years. The redpill was the only one that worked. Even the redpill community hates her, because they know she's just faking it lmao
I seriously wonder if she actually believes what she’s saying, or she knows she has cornered the female red piller market and if she went traditional or even moderate she would become irrelevant.
@@meglukes willful blindness.
@@meglukes I think you're onto something. She has brand-marketed moping.
I found it endlessly amusing that a very large part of Pearl’s argument is that men are very rational, smart creatures; but as soon as she was presented with the fact that men say they are happy being married she concludes that they must be lying.
She said men are logical but later on said the men who get married after divorce don’t make logical decisions when it comes to love.
She can’t keep up with her own statements. She’s a joke.
Its very logical for men to lie about their state of affairs today when women literally have a gun to their heads via the state.
@@SJ-ru4ej The joke is when you think that's her contradicting herself. It isn't. It's not a contradiction to say most men are logical, and then when trent pulls people that are obvious OUTLIERS to say they aren't being logical.
@@a-atheist I don't think he's talking about outliers. He was able to cite statistics, Pearl can't. "I'm a woman, I know what we pick"
"Lol women gain weight within the first 5 years of marriage" (Which is usually when kids happen). Neither of those are arguments.
An unmarried woman and never married woman can only look at marriage from the perspective of a single woman... which is why she thinks a man is only interested in sex and silence. That's a bachelor not a husband...
Similar to single college kids who argue for abortion.
It's annoying how much of the debate was wasted by Pearl obsessively fixating on women's weight
YES!!! Drove me bananas that 15 pounds is suddenly obese!
Pearl's weight has ballooned in the past couple of years. She can't even meet her own standards.
She probably lost a man to a woman who was overweight, probably because that overweight lady wasn't a total b!tch
@@empresspoobahyeah she’s cringe but Trent’s egalitarian talking points were way worse
@@Metanoia000 I wholeheartedly disagree. Pearl was pulling stats out of her arse and could not back them up. "I spoke to 1000 women blab blab." Same tired BS she always comes up with. Meanwhile he quotes a study with hundreds of thousands. He smoked her.
I know in theory that egalitarianism is probably a pipe dream, but it is something we should strive for, not mock
It’s so heartbreaking to listen to Pearl talk. You can tell she’s never been loved past a superficial point and, more importantly, you can tell her heart is hardened to a point where she can’t recognize or accept God’s love for her. I think being in the presence of someone like Trent really triggers her because she definitively believes that the love he has for his wife doesn’t exist and he challenges that. This is nothing more than a secular woman with a secular view on love speaking with a man who chooses to try and love the way the Lord did.
Amen. I couldn't agree more! Let's pray for Pearl
👏👏👏👏
It took a lot of courage for Pearl to do this debate. Let's pray for her conversion and her return to the Church.
I think it’s more out of naivety or ignorance.
Did she officially leave the Catholic Church? I know she identified as a Catholic within the last 6 months to a year.
She lives off the attention she gets from saying these things. She isn’t interested in seeing other people’s points of view, she is just making money. This is her job, this is her whole shtick. It has to be quite the conversion.
I agree.👍😩💭
@@dbbiggs1042 No. She didn't. This commenter just thinks they're God.
Pearl is the archetypal devouring mother. Rather than encouraging men to be better, take risks, and face the world, she treats men like babies and victims. Its no different than the mother who keeps treating her adult son like a baby because she doesnt want him to leave her. "Those women out there are mean and no good. Stay home. Nobody can love you like mommy can."
do you see something in pearl that you see in your own mother ?
Exactly, I have said this many times. Pearl is the embodiment of the devouring mother, that person you run to for validation whether you deserve it or not
And she also should encourage women to do better.
It goes both ways.
@@lvup7907did this comment hurt your feelings because it was true?
@@lvup7907 We can play this game ad infinitum though. Why did you assume he was thinking about his own mother? What does that projection say about your relationship to yours?
Pearl is acting like the women she complains about. She's disrespectful to him and interrupts. She's also giving him contempt with her attitude.
She’s giving 99% of all viewers contempt with her attitude.
True, however it is a debate, so i'm not surprised she subconsciously takes an aggressive/masculine approach.
Cool now refute her arguments
@@InsaneCopePossesimp
It's a debate, it's going to be contentious. The rules for the cross examination explicitly allow interrupting. In that situation, if you don't interrupt your opponent can stall until your time is up. Would you have the same problem if a man were doing this to Mr Horn?
"$440 per month is life-changing money!" .. says the woman who doesn't have children and has no idea how expensive they are 😂🤣
Yup. My husband and I spend that on a single Costco trip on food that lasts MAYBE 2 weeks if that long, and basic household items. She comes from a rich family and has no idea what it's like to raise a family.
I didn’t even remember her saying this 440$ a month is life changing money!? I knew majority of her takes were batshit crazy but wtf is that
@SJ-ru4ej yeah, unfortunately, $400 per month doesn't go very far. Especially in today's economy.
@MrGh0st396 she doesn't say this verbatim, she says it adds up to $100,000 over the course of the 18 years the parent would he paying child support. Still, it's ridiculous to say considering raising a child costs a lot more than $400 per month
@@beee___ still batshit crazy imo
I’ll shorten this for everyone,
Pearl sees Marriage as a Transaction - I did this so this is what I receive
Trent sees marriage as a covenant - I will be yours and you will be mine and together we will call on each other during celebration and despair
Nope. Trent doesn't know what he is talking about in the current dating scene.
@@halo_1232pearl exaggerates the current dating market. She’s ignorant on purpose
@@oscarperez9783 does her following of over a million YT subs also exaggerate? btw she is just a small portion of the red pill. men have ended themselves because there are benefits for a woman to leave marriage in the current state of laws. be serious
@@halo_1232 Yes, her followers grossly exaggerate, and most of red pill is based off lies and half truths. Debates like this w/ Trent show what the statistics are, rather than the highly conflated anecdotes that red piller always use. Male suicide is serious, but the highest rate of suicide in men, double the marrying or divorcing age is for seniors, 75-85. They are ending themselves not from divorce, obviously, but from serious illness and possibly widowhood.
All relationships are transactional. If a man or woman is not getting what they desire from a relationship, they will leave.
This whole debate can be summed up in one thing: Pearl has no clue what VIRTUE is.
By the way, Trent’s closing statement was beautiful. Well done, Trent!
Pearl doesn’t have a Biblical point of view..that’s her problem. She understands the rot of the culture.
@mraemartinez Pearl makes her money making men less interested in marriage or finding a woman by presenting the idea that all women are bad. She IS the rot in the culture
Why should a secular man get married?
@@Emmanuel_EEE They should not. Marriage can only be sacramental if ordained by God. The women today are too out of line for a successful marriage…some men too..
@@mraemartinez then she made her point well
shes not coming from a religious position on it
Pearl is so focused on the superficial aspects of marriage that there’s no room for growth, forgiveness and love. She’s expecting people to go into marriage already perfect and never make a mistake. That has never once happened in a marriage. Like Trent said, men do better, work harder and are happier after getting married, marriage allows both to become better people.
There was never proof that those men werent already going to be successful prior to the marriage
women could be selecting men who already have those traits
attributing it to marriage is throwing a dart and painting a target around it
@@SteveJohnson-d1d If all you care about is money then go by that standard alone. It's shallow and meaningless. Marriage offers a whole lot more than more money. Though married men do work harder and garner more assets. Assets being a good wife, children, inlaws, more community, longer life, better quality of life and all the other things that Trent mentioned. You've clearly been snow jobbed by the poison pill bowel movement, but it's built on falsified stats, flagrant omissions and outright lies.
Who pays for those mistakes and bears the responsibility of these failed rigged modern day marriages…..
@@SteveJohnson-d1dActually, this is not true. We have studies that have done multivariate analysis that account for the marriage itself, and which show that the marriage is a meaningful factor for success in the workplace.
@@SteveJohnson-d1d I think it’s a combination. Women choose men with potential, and men with potential often perform better when they have a wife and family to motivate them.
Pearl’s own behavior is the best argument in support of her claim that women have gotten worse
Yea, you know here theme is to literally flipp the standards of women and men in marriage? Shansi basically demanding of women the exact same your average woman demands and demeans husband's these days
Pearl was outmatched before this even began. Outmatched in terms of intellect and research. Also, Pearl is extremely snarky and unlikable. I'm glad this debate happened to show all of this, but she did a disservice to herself.
if you just listen to her opening statement alone you should be able to retain a bunch of info she won just by the info reaching your ears
@@lvup7907 what?
Yeah, I know. Real life is just so unpalatable.
@thundersmite2162 Pearl is right about a lot of things.
But is wrong on the institution of marriage.
Look up how many guys are single for example.
It's just that her redpill accuses of women being this or that while also ignoring the men who are apart of the problem.
@@vaderkurt7848 why are you telling me this? Is your response supposed to explain lvup's comment?
I'm an engaged man. Pearl's opening statement depressed me but Trent's opening statement was very encouraging. Thank Trent!
Listen to Pearl while there is still time. Trent is selling you a bill of goods. I’m not saying don’t get married, but take Pearls words seriously. She has way more practical knowledge then Trent
Focus on how you prepare for marriage. I've been married for almost 20 years and love my husband so much. What makes him happy is what makes me happy and he feels the same way about me. Pearl sounds like a very bitter fool. To say that she knows more than Trent is just silly.
@@annew6275I couldn’t agree more! Don’t listen to these people saying that marriage is going to destroy you. If you find the right person and both of you are committed to make each other happy, you will be fine. What makes me happy is what my husband loves to do and vice versa. We want the best for each other and I can’t imagine my life without him. We’ve been married for 2 years and sometimes if feels like a lifetime, it’s so good. I literally pray to God everyday to bless us with a long life together. There’s no better thing! Marriage made us way better.
Get your advice from happily married men and women, not bitter red pilled divorcees and the chronically single.
@@mcsmoothie7052 Practical knowledge? She a perpetually single woman who can't even keep a boyfriend. She has the mentality of a teenage. Trent is married for over a decade w/a wonderful wife he loves, who makes him laugh and has several children. The way he and his wife look at one another w/ such love, lust and admiration is the ultimate. He's the model of what she can't even fathom.
In summation: Pearl thinks a woman is only worth how beautiful she is. If she’s fat? Not worthy. If she has had a sexual past trying to redeem herself from? Too damaged. I can only imagine how Pearl sees herself. Very sad perspective to hold so close, especially her being a woman herself. Lord have mercy.
It seems to me that she's making it her business to blame all women for her lack of ability to get a husband.
To be completely fair, she totally caught Trent justifying low standards. Trent is right on marriage, but men need to grow a backbone and tell their wives it's not cute to be super overweight and unhealthy. Women need to do the same things with their husbands. Oue low stabdards for physical appearance are a huge issue
@@sivad1025 No one ever said that it is okay to be unhealthy or overweight. Trent deals with that when he is talking about virtue.
@winstonvontoast6163 Trent said it was "shallow" to ask your spouse to fix it though. Catholics are usually good about defending the importance of carnal experience which makes it more frustrating that Trent wanted to downplay physical appearance
@sivad1025 I think Trent's point was to not make beauty the be-all end-all. No one is going to maintain their youthful appearance forever. Trent is saying to look beyond the superficial. He is not saying lower your standards and settle. He's saying, "Don't have unrealistic expectations."
We are not cartoon characters. We age and change.
1:48:27 Pearl lost the argument completely when she stated that men are the only ones who can have rational brains. When she resorted to insults, she knew she lost.
@theAwkwardAvacado True. She basically threw her entire debate away. Realistically, she doesn't even listen to herself. Her silly giggling when he challenged her arguments also lost the debate on individual points. He won on all points.
Bruh she lost the debate wayyyy before that
@@jasonellis8751 I find it ironic that she says things you would think men would agree with (she is by far on their side) but she is so damn annoying, I can't imagine she is "marriageable" herself. 🤢
no.. her doing so proved her point right, although in a way she won't be flattered by
I genuinely don't understand why people debate Pearl. She's uneducated, inarticulate, and rude.
People she has influence with can benefit from this.
She speaks for tens of thousands of men. Trent lives in a bubble that is obsolete and ready to vanish, if I may use the phraseology of Saint Paul.
She's also massively inexperienced in the subjects she speaks on.
I don't understand why people keep debating her, either. It's the same wimpy soy boys that don't have data to refute her points. This is almost identical to the time when she wrecked Klavan.
@@pmaitrasm Yeah tens of thousands of men who don't know how to be men. No one taught them. And certainly Pearl is not really helping them, she is just pointing fingers to women who also don't know how to be women.
I was a virgin on my wedding day. Not just that, but I had never even kissed a man before my husband. We have 1 baby and I currently weigh 118 lbs. I have no tattoos either. However, I do suffer from OCD and depression. I did have some student loan debt when I married too. I think that to meet every single one of her criteria is impossible. I can’t imagine what this person would look like.
It would look like a perfectly average woman a hundred years ago.
Nothing she stated is actually hard to accomplish. It was literally the most common condition to find a woman in for most of human history.
The average man 100 years ago was probably looking at porn, cheating on his wife, and would hit her. This is what helped pushed the feminist revolution. Women would have to go back more than 100 years to find a perfectly average man.
That was me until I was 24 when my ex fiancé kissed me and gave me trust and emotional issues.
@@yallcrazy302 That was every single woman on Earth a hundred years ago.
You cannot simultaneously star eyes your very, very abnormal, wholesome experience without simultaneously agreeing that this rarity proves just how far women have fallen in the modern world.
@shawn4110 😂😂😂😂 the fantasy ya'll live in- where, where was this common?
As a happily married man, marrying my wife was by far the best decision I’ve ever made. I can’t imagine life being anywhere near as beautiful without her and my daughter. That being said, it does seem that the family court system is in need of some serious reform.
Her unpreparedness did Trent a disservice. I commend Trent for taking a debate that was so below his ability. With God's grace she will learn from what he presented her with.
I wish she was more prepared. She came with nothing. Literally nothing.
@@calledtorome - Yes, facts and reality are nothing.
Lets not be like the political Left, please.
It’s funny that Pearl is basically a poster girl for everything that’s wrong with modern women that she hates.
It's funny that she doesn't see that by her standards she is also not marriage material.
@@calledtoromeI wonder if she’s projecting *because* she doesn’t think she’s worthy of marriage or a good man? She’ll never quit “reverse-simping” (even if her husband asks her to), she’ll never be objectively more beautiful as time goes on, she can’t argue, she doesn’t understand business, she believes men only want sex, sandwiches, and silence.. poor woman.
I think that that is the point.
Why does everyone think this is something smart? 🤣 I’m not on her side but this is like 80% of the anti-Pearl team comments.
@@ArtryomI don’t scroll through huge amounts of TH-cam comments, so I wouldn’t know. It’s just something I noticed.
Pearl does not understand some very basic things
1. Logical fallacies
2. Sampling bias
3. Disincentives as opposed to incentives
4. Virtues
5. Marriage
Pearl isn't a debater, she's a talk show host.
This should literally be top comment
It's funny you mention sampling bias. Trent is the one who uses a survey of STILL MARRIED men to argue that marriage makes men happier. Pearl pointed out that his stats about men being healthier and more successful in a marriage could also be based on sampling bias, since women prefer to marry healthy, successful men. He had absolutely no answer to that. Embarrassing on his part.
@@discussingsplinterlands7728 he can't help that you didn't comprehend his answer. Trent addressed that argument by saying at the very least marriage didn't make those men unhappy ergo, at the very least, marriage cannot reasonably be said to take happiness away, that's the argument. His surveys are massive, the idea that all those men were happy, handsome and successful is just ridiculous. Most men are just average like most women, they're not exceptional by definition. Multi level population level surveys with hundreds of thousands of randomized participants in a category is not a sampling bias, she just has an unproven explanation hypothesis. Even amongst divorced men, the majority go on to marry again hence they did not perceive marriage itself to be a bad deal. Pearl's only retort to this is that those men are irrational in her view.
Pearl's sampling bias is her citing her interviews as evidence for a wider phenomenon when she specifically interviews a subsection of men with a specific experience, that's a blatant sampling bias. It would be like me interviewing a bunch of people suing hospitals about their experience with doctors and acting like that was representative of the average person visiting a hospital or if I interviewed a bunch of women who were beaten by their husbands about how violent men are and used that as evidence of the average man being violent.
@@Hearth123 He is talking about a survey of STILL MARRIED men. If you take out everybody who's marriage has failed, of course you will be left with more people who are not massively unhappy with their marriage. It's not difficult to understand.
That's the same as if Pearl would refer to a study of only divorced men and take those results to speak for all men who ever got married. That would be equally ridiculous.
I am not defending Pearl, btw. She is really bad at debates and bad at arguing. I am just saying that Trent did a pretty bad job.
Marriage is a bad deal for anyone who marries a selfish person. This isn’t women vs men- it’s their virtues
We need to pray Pearl finds Jesus and returns to the Church
Especially because she thinks that maybe the Church has elevated Mary to a higher status than she needs to be. That's a big thing in my mind.
This is not an argument of religion. It is an argument of marriage in general including secularists based on empiricism not moralism
Pearl is a Catholic
Why is the Church feminizing men?
In west marriage is a secular contract which heavily punishes men if they dont entertain women.
But still chrstians forcing secular men to marry. No wonder Christianity is keep declining.
Trent saying Pearl simps for men is his way of calling her a Pick Me lol
You know the difference between simps and pick-mes?
Pick-mes actually get picked by men.
Simping turns off women almost completely.
@@19e-k2m Pearl has yet to be picked
@@tomasrocha6139
She actually has a boyfriend and probably 100,000 men who would wife her.
Only she since she out earns them she is likely to refuse marriage because just like she says “it’s crazy to sign a contract the other party is paid to break”.
It very rare to see rich women marry significantly poorer men because they might end up like Kelly Clarkson.
I guarantee Clarkson doesn’t take that risk again.
Only we want to demand the typical man be even more reckless considering over 90% of the time it’s them paying alimony to women who left in no fault divorce cases.
@@JacobsNews ?
@@tomasrocha6139 Sorry, the guy seems more about feelings than facts . He said corn stars are the same as guys who watch corn . Marry girls with stds and used a study from 1993 for dating. She had to explain that most people under 30 meet online
God bless Trent man, he was doing his best to be charitable through that.
Trent shot him self in the foot in his opening statement
🤢🤮
@@lvup7907how so?
Pearl believes in shallow values and doesn't believe in grace. It's not clear how anything about her mindset is Christian.
Unironically listening to Pearl annoys me as much as listening to feminists
She’s a outcome of feminism
Sadly I do know two men who thinks like her.
Same thing really
She's merely anti-feminist which is actually the same thing. Rejection of the truth.
That's bc everything she's saying is feminist
I'm a Doctor and a wife and married men's health can partially be explained because women tend to make their husbands go to the doctor.
I can totally believe this (as I've been bugging my husband about it for months 😅 )
How often do we hear the ladies whinging about men "complaining" about being sick?
So men can be resistant to going to doctors because it can be seen as weakness in men by the women.
@@dreamingmusic3299 not everything is women’s fault. Stop whining. Men are biologically less adverse to risk. Women tend to worry so they plead with their husbands to go to the doctor.
Other explanations are that (1) sickly men have a much harder time getting married, (2) women often divorce their husbands when they get seriously ill, and these "studies" always include divorced men in the category of "unmarried men", and (3) divorced men usually have financial problems thanks to the burden the state places on them to finance the lifestyle of their ex-wives, and financial problems often lead to health problems.
@@adrianmizen5070 false most studies its the other way around where men leave their sick wives at a greater rate than women leaving their sick husbands
Pearl: *Continuously talks over both her opponent and the moderator.*
Also Pearl when Trent responds to her baseless claims: “Let me finish!”
That's one layer of the hypocrisy. There's a second (at least a second) layer as well:
Pearl (paraphrasing): "men don't like it when women are constantly interrupting them and being condescending" in the same breath she condescends and constantly interrupts Trent.
That's one thing that annoys the mess outta me about her. She does the same thing that the 'modern woman'. Talks down on woman for doing exactly what she herself does lol
@@p.as.in.pterodactyl1024, I suppose Trent should stick to his monologues because his devotees are not comfortable seeing him facing uncomfortable questions.
Pearl thinks everything has to be black or white. Life is never black or white.
Sooo she herself said she would be a long term girlfriend that marriage isn’t a necessity and then criticize women for listing marriage as not #1 on their priority list? The call is coming from inside the house.
She clearly wants a husband but is probably too embarrassed to admit it. Not to mention it gives amo to her disagreers as her whole platform is "modern women bad" but despite showing herself to be the ideal wife and not like other girls, she has yet to be picked
When Trent’s case for canonization moves forward, the Vatican will use this debate footage as proof of his miraculous patience.
Hahaha!! 😂😂
I don't know how he does this. Half the times, I need to move forward the video when she speaks
Lol! Love this comment!😅
This is the best comment I have seen
Because he has no good answer 😂
Pearl claims she is Catholic, but because she does not believe in marriage that can mean only one of two things. Either she believes people should just have sex out of wedlock (a mortal sin in the Catholic Church), or no sex outside of marriage and humanity goes extinct.
You make sense & bring up a valid criticism..unlike most of the love-bots who follow this channel..🤖
she said marriage isnt a good deal for men and he didnt prove her wrong
@@SteveJohnson-d1d Totally agree!
@@SteveJohnson-d1dI think their next debate should be why don’t Pearl and the men who agree with her move on from complaining about marriage? Why doesn’t the whining stop if they know they’re right?
@@SteveJohnson-d1dthat’s not how debates work. She made the affirmative claim that marriage is not good for men. Trent’s position is inherently that marriage is not not good for men. As Trent said in his opening, Trent only has to show that the affirmative is not true, not prove a second alternative affirmative.
Pearl showed that there are a lot of issues with modern legal marriage, but did not prove that marriage is a bad deal for men as a general rule.
Most redpillers seem to have an exceptionally low understanding of the concept of grace
Well they have a low understanding of things that actually exist too, like women
If your argument rests on people should just be nice or something equivalent, it's bad.
How much has "grace" done for anything else that that concept is used for, like the government for one example.
@@MorrisJohn-vo2vn grace has never equated to "just being nice". It's deciding to forgive someone's action whether they "deserve" it or not, but I believe it's especially important to offer to those who have made efforts to grow from their shortcomings. Grace also isn't about what we can get out of it
A legal example could be a pardon, if that's what you're looking for
@@aisherwasher6959 and when has "deciding to forgive" been a driving factor in explaining any systematic thing in history?.
@@MorrisJohn-vo2vn if you don't want to practice grace, that's your choice; but if you need a systemic historic precedent for that decision, then...
1. I'm going to question if you know what grace is and
2. I'm not the one to ask bc i dont believe history or the world determines right and wrong.
In an interesting way, Pearl understands sin and the depravity of the world. She actually gets that our world is fallen and it causes deep brokenness between us.
But Pearl has no idea of the antidote. She doesn’t know how Jesus Christ and the Gospel empowers us (both men and women, by the way) to live a virtuous, self-sacrificing life. This is why she gets mind-blown by descriptions of Christian marriages, where there is mutual submission and where both people die to themselves daily to make the marriage work - and the deep joy they share in that endeavor.
She lives in a world where sin is the end of the story. And that’s a dark place.
Christian marriage does not have 'mutual submission'. That is a feminist worldview, not a Christian one. List any verse in any book of the Bible that commands men to submit to their wives.
Christian marriage cannot be a thing without Christian ethics. Most modern women do not follow even the most basic of Christian sexual ethics, being virginal, nor do they follow the actual Christian marriage requirements of submitting to their husbands authority over them.
Well said.
Pearl was just out of her league, there was never any way she was going to win this. She made herself look very dumb.
As she does with any debate she’s in. “Women gain weight lol” isn’t an argument.
Her career should have been over after she was on H3H3. It was that bad.
She exposed herself and her bad opinions about men and women in general.
like very VERY dumb in fact
She was out of her league, but she exposed Trent Horn lack of concern for the American legal system and his simping for women by not holding them to standards.
Nope. Clearly, not the format Pearls is used to, but all her points still stand…. Even if less than eloquent.
-Don’t marry a wh*re.
-Don’t marry a single mother.
-Women are paid to leave men.
-Marriage is bad for men.
All that, still stands
Having lots of "un-marriable" women doesn't mean marriage is bad. Having a rotten culture that forgot what marriage is and is for doesn't make it bad...
food is not bad, but if everytime you want to get food you get punched in the face. is getting food bad?
It does though. Having lots of roach infested restaurants does indeed make going out to eat a bad deal. If someone had only two options, 1) Stay at home or 2) Eat at the gross unsanitary restaurant. Staying home is the good deal.
Modern women are overwhelmingly bad deals, and therefore, the majority of men cannot find a good woman to marry, and therefore should not.
@@shawn4110 the flaw in your logic is treating marriage as a lottery. I wouldn’t marry a random woman much less date one if the pool is American women my age. However, just because the average woman isn’t worthwhile, that doesn’t mean worthwile no longer exist. Even if most restaurants are gross, you still have the ability to check a restaurant before ordering. With the right girl, marriage is worth it. Everyone can and should reasonable reduce risk through proper discernment of if a person is marriage material.
@@vortexlight8387 No, getting punched in the face is bad. That doesn't make food bad.
@@shawn4110 Same problem as other reply. The roach infestation is the problem, not eating at restaurants. The roaches make it more difficult to find a safe restaurant but do not affect the morality of eating at a restaurant.
Finally someone who said the facts needed to be said in a debate against this girl! I feel like everyone always misses the point. He was refreshing!
It’s interesting, I’ve noticed that every time Pearl doesn’t have an argument she just laughs the other person off as if their argument is stupid. I noticed she did the same thing when she debated Michael Knowles. Damn this woman is insufferable
Horn and Knowles picked their opponents wisely, as Ben Shapiro often does. There are scads of MGTOW men on YT who would have loved to debate Horn on this topic but he wouldn't dare.
@adrianmizen5070 why? Have they been as big on youtube and asked for a debate?
@@adrianmizen5070
MGTOWS never go their own way and are usually very sick people
@@LauraBeeDannonAndrew Wilson has called everybody out and he's got a large following and he's married
Pearl is also a good example of why is important for women to get married and not stay chronically single.
She never said it was a bad deal for women to get married 😂😂😂
Agreed 💯
She can’t get married. She’s a bitter mid to late 30 year old. That got grifted & catfished & now is a pick me girl.
She’s the Dave Rubin of females. The guys she simps for say “I’d never pick you” & she’s like “I get it”
Like Rubin with Ben
@@PEPSEPshe is 27 , she has a boyfriend. She says things are unfortunate very true in marriage. Marriage is a raw deal for men especially in the west . Don’t hate the players , hate the game.
@@wisl8122 She doesn't have a boyfriend. She is sleeping with her Nigerian employee.
The reason Pearl sees women as low-worth is because she’s sees herself that way and is projecting that on other women. It’s just sad to see her on anything
I’d love to hear what the women in her family think. Do they all see themselves as the good kind of women or are they offended? Were they terrible role models? Idk, I’m curious.
@@caseyk.1386 She said her parents were married! I imagine it was a good home. I also saw in a twitter post from a former friend of hers that she changed her personality considerably when she realized she could build a following off of what she says now. I think she has a sister too?
I think it started off in a good way but like a lot of things became extreme when the money started rolling in. It’s kind of become her persona now.
The reason you see pearl as low-worth is because you see yourself that way and is projecting it onto her. It's sad anyone could comment so poorly.
@@a-atheist how could it be projecting if I dont see women as low worth?
Pearl make a lot of great points (I have seen a lot of her content). There's the Catholic wishful thinking and there's reality.
If you have to shame men into getting married, then it's probably not good. Shaming as a working tactic is reaching its limit.
I had to scroll down this far to find the first intelligent comment.
It seems that Pearl completely disregards the dignity of women during this interview. The way that she talked about women in this interview is absolutely horrible.
She doesn't like other women.
Have a look at her tweets... The stuff she says is either from a place of bitterness, resentment, overall dislike, whatever... Or just pure rage baiting/engagement farming. Probably a mixture of both. She knows what she's doing because she appeals to a particular group of men who will always follow her content based on some of the things she says.
That is very sad.
OR perhaps the way women are behaving today is horrible. 15 % of women under 35 in us are sex workers
Pearl is known to very sexist towards women, she says she’s not sexist, but every time she talks about women, she degrades them
>women
>dignity
kek
Woman who makes a living by getting attention from lonely men on the Internet calls succesful married man with three children and a wonderful stay-at-home wife a "simp". What a time to be alive.
So I have to ask, why is a happily married man debating with a single woman dedicated to demeaning marriage, about the merits or non-merits of marriage?? 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ It’s impossible for her to know anything!!
At this point simp = not a misogynist. Women can be misogynists just like men can be misandrists, ask a male feminist.
@@MoniqueGonzalez1212 yeah, I think that it's a mistake to give her the attention that she clearly is after. But to play the devil's advocate, maybe it's because she's popular and has a large audience that needs to hear a better message than what they get with her.
@@meglukesTrent literally said it’s unreasonable to not want to date a porn star so many things he said were INSANE 😂😂 stop simping
@@cfbanno she’s correct on many things! Trent said men watching porn is the same thing as a women being a porn start that’s not the same standard 😂😂😂
Pearl saying she doesn’t want to discuss religion after getting flamed by Michael Knowles and now coming on to debate Trent Horn on Matt Fradd’s Pints with Aquinas is the biggest cop out of the decade
Because she excuses and condones men cheating and says women need to just get over it/they're the ones at fault if they choose to divorce for that reason.
@@SJ-ru4ej If God's creative will is free, then: "God is not obliged to create every individual" and if that is true, no one or nothing forces God to create: *God freely chooses to create those he wishes to create, he creates knowing that some will be damned and others will be saved. God therefore has a free decision not to create those who he knows will not accept him, and yet, God wants to create them even knowing that they will end up eternally in hell suffering torment*, because that torment and suffering shows the glory of God, which is better than not create them and them avoiding the suffer with fire that never goes out.
Just like God did not wish to forgive the angels who sinned and did not offer them redemption.
God decides who He creates, who He saves and who He forgives and who He allows to suffer eternally everything emanates from God. God did not forgive the angels who sinned, but cast them into hell and left them in darkness, chained and kept for judgment. 2 Peter 2:4
Trent does a better job but Knowles was conpletely stupid when debated Pearl.
Michael Knowles said he'd let his wife cheat😂😂😂 and you guys are really fans
I am not native speaker. What flamed means. I only know Knowles was completly exposed as a feminist simp clown whem he said women can be whores and thats not a red flag.
The basis of her argumentation is actually really simple. We live in a fallen world and because that is the case there will be many instances of horror stories that happen. So what is the logical response and solution to that? Hers is neither logical nor a solution.
Her solution is for all people to embrace the fallen life. To presume failure and evil and give nobody a chance. To instead shack up and when times are slightly tough abandon the other person and the kids. To instead focus on selfishness and vanity and self serving pleasures. Then in such an unstable situation people of course will choose not to conceive a child since they have no secure foundation to build a family upon. So the society will go extinct into nothingness and be forever forgotten. What a plan.
The alternative plan would to be the change you want to see in the world. Dedicate yourself to the old ways. Learn from the righteous who came before you and embrace their values. Be a leader worth following. Then you will attract the right type of person to join you in your journey. Prioritize their values and faithfulness rather than their looks. Give yourself selflessly to your new family. Don’t see failure as an option. Do what it takes and work through problems together. Have the hard conversations. Inspire the person to be their best self. Lead by example. I can go on but you get the point.
Just because the world is fallen doesn’t mean you have to be. You can be the light in the dark world. Even if you suffer the betrayal she warns can happen you can take comfort in your honouring your vows and pray for your spouse daily.
Life is hard but we will get through it rain or shine.
Pearl: why can you never juzt answer yes, or no
Trent: Do you believe men and women have equal dignity
Pearl: Well, it depends......
Hearing Pearl loudly sigh throughout Trent’s intro was SO obnoxious
your easily annoyed
*you’re
If you’re gonna defend Pearl in every single reply then at least spell correctly and use proper grammar lol
@@lvup7907the fact that you are literally replying to every single comment here, tells me that you also may be a bit too easily annoyed...
@@mellieg.7543 or on a payroll
I can’t even watch her. She’s disturbing and rude. This is not a debate. It’s her delusional , nonsensical “hissy fitting” attitude. Moreover she doesn’t understand business agreements clearly and she also doesn’t really care what Trent thinks, she’s determined to drive her People magazine’s narrative into the ground. Blah, blah, blah. And her rudeness to Trent! Ugh! All her fact finding is self serving too.
I can't even watch Trent. He’s disturbing and rude. This is not a debate. It’s his delusional , nonsensical “hissy fitting” attitude. Moreover he doesn’t understand business agreements clearly and he also doesn’t really care what Pearl thinks. Blah, blah, blah. And his rudeness to Pearl! Ugh! All his fact finding is self serving too.
She’s a “pick me” and she brought that attitude and experience into a debate over her head.
@@a-atheist this is so embarrassing for you
@@Dani-ww5qr Your face is embarrassing.
@@Dani-ww5qr Learn punctuation and capitalization. How embarrassing for you. 🤣
I agree with Pearl. These people are so out of touch and refusing and ignoring the huge issue with modern women (and men). That's the issue with old school conservatives. They have ideals that are not based in reality. Should things be the way conservatives say it should be? Sure. But that isn't the reality thats actually happening.
A lot of what Pearl says is vastly exaggerated. Many of her points have been debunked time and time again.
@SJ-ru4ej That's a very vague response. What examples can you give? When it comes to marriage, she is 100% correct.
Why is she so hateful towards women as a woman? I believe in advocating for men but you can do that without degrading women.
Agreed. For whatever reason, Pearl's concern for men has resulted in her hating women. She's the archetypal overbearing mother. She meets divorced men, pities them, and feels the need to be their mother and protect them by preventing men from getting married. No different than a mother whose son grows up, but she keeps telling him women are evil and no good so that she can keep her son home for herself. Rather than encouraging men to be good and find good women, she treats men like victims and babies. It's degrading to both women, and to the men she claims to be so concerned for.
@@sassychimpanzee7431 oh man you hit the nail on the head! That makes so much sense.
He called it early. She simps for men and to bitter frustrated guys, that is like crack.
One word...jealousy.
what did she say that was "hateful"
Pearl is just as shallow as the women she’s claiming to be opposed to
i think you see in Pearl something you dont like about yourself
@@lvup7907 and I think you’re only looking for opposition because you find something lacking in yourself
Absolutely 💯 %
I think she is more shallow. The vast majority of people I know have settled down with average men (some above average, some below but the majority of them are average). She is 27 and should have been able to find a man who she could marry, but she isn't married. She is not ugly and she is at an average weight, she is tall but I know women her height who have husbands.
It could be something else, but it wouldn't surprize me if she was picky. There is nothing bad in being picky, you might just not be able to get what you want.
Beta male ^^
Thank you Trent for defending women against a woman.
Lol, uve have already surrendered marriage to the secular state, and the Protestant legacy😊
@Mikethemerciless11 And exactly how did Pearl hold women accountable in this debate? LOL
And Pearl for defending men against a man
Before you want men to get legally married, remove alimony and division of assets laws.
😂😂😂
As a formerly married man, there’s no way I would marry in this country again. My divorce was not even that bad
Why not get married again?
@@alanadiaz2078 did you watch the video? This is what the debate was about.
@@alanadiaz2078Are you insane?
"Formerly married"
Oh boy do i have some news for you...
I'm a dude and being married has been awesome.
until your wife FEELS like divorcing you and you will be stripped by the government.
@jeantanamohe's probably divorced
@@vortexlight8387your 10 years ago bro. stop watching red pill and go outside
@@vortexlight8387okay guy because you know all about it 🙄🙄🙄
@jeantanamohalf of men who were married and got divorced were once married, though
I hope Pearl's fans heard what she argued for: she believes a wealthy woman who completely abandons her 3 young children and husband to start a new life with a higher status man, leaving her family in poverty *should not pay anything for child support*. How is this different than radical feminists' takes?
Before you want men to get legally married, remove alimony and division of assets laws.
@@kojo2773 I wish the laws were more fair, but I think Trent has a good point when he points out that the alternatives to marriage have much worse statistics than marriage. Marriage might be risky, but it still is far better for men over all statistically than being forever single or cohabiting.
It might feel good to say that men will withhold marriage until the laws change, but I worry that it is going to backfire on those men and leave them lonely and unfulfilled.
@@TreeTrinity
There's an alternative.
A religious marriage outside of secular government involvement.
@@kojo2773 Just staying out of legal marriages altogether makes sense to me (though I have not thought it through).
There are drawbacks to not being married legally though:
You would miss out on some tax breaks though and you wouldn’t be able to have medical authority over each other in moments of crisis or join into a family name as easily. You also legally wouldn’t be the go to person for your spouse which would bother me.
If you did separate, the separation has the potential to be much more messy and less clear. And custody would be much harder to get for the father if the couple was never married.
But I guess you take risks no matter what and it’s about deciding what feels like appropriate risks to each individual.
@@kojo2773Or you could marry someone who makes a similar amount of money.
What is the deal with Pearl’s obsession with women gaining weight?
There was a “study” done showing that men prefer women who are debt free, virgins, no tattoos and not overweight. That’s why she focuses on them, and she said X% of women have one tattoo.
Not only her. Most women in the west has some weird obsession for being fat.
This makes me so sad 😢 I am currently pregnant and I can’t imagine my husband demanding that I don’t gain weight when it is a natural sacrifice to bring life into the world!
It’s a harsh truth. Not nice to hear, but in the mark…
It’s funny cuz she’s overweight herself
Everything trent said encouraged me to pursue marriage, and everything Pearl said encouraged me to be more discerning when pursuing marriage
It's so exasperating listening to Pearl. She asks questions and then goes on to interrupt Trent continuously, not wanting to listen to his answers
She interrupts to ask more questions 😂
Pearl understood the: “you can interrupt and guide the conversation during cross examination” as “this is the time for you to be the most obnoxious woman to ever step on this earth”
Too bad it was much worse than that. She disregarded all the rules of debate from beginning to end. Every bit of it was a time for her to be obnoxious and interrupt him the whole time. Didn't matter if it was his turn to speak. Heck, she even blabbered on through Matt's commercial, you could still hear her.
Marriage is a sacrament, but it's also a sacrifice and many people are unable to commit permanently because of this.
there are no christian women in divorce court
It's funny how the divorce court doesn't treat it like a sacrament.
@@lvup7907There are.
The State does not agree. The State has guns, the Church doesn't.
If many people are not willing to treat it as a sacrament, then that by definition means that many people should not get married, obviously.
If Catholics actually cared about the sacrament of marriage they would have long ago refused to participate in the State version which literally allows men to marry men. You don't get to hold up your sacrament while sacrificing it to the State who literally defines marriage to be the exact opposite of what you claim it is.
Marriage is a State Contract.
"Men want sex, silence, and sandwiches" wtf. I don't think i've ever heard someone unironically say something like that.
She's right
That sounds right, bud
She sprung up around the same time as Kevin Samuels, who is the one who coined that phrase
“So in this debate we know which is the more rational one”
HE MIC DROPPED HER RIGHT THERE AND SHE DIDNT EVEN REALIZE IT
she realized it and rebuked t by saying "men, not simps".
Before you want men to get legally married, remove alimony and division of assets laws.
@@vortexlight8387 This debate was between Trent and Pearl; a man and a woman. The man was the more rational one over the woman grifter simping for men.
@@dannyknightblade4592 Trent lost to her
@@brennansmith6474 Not at all. Pearl is an airhead who consistently gets embarrassed in debates as her lack of intelligence is exposed.
My question for Pearl is this:
Why would I take marriage advice from an unmarried woman? I don’t take medical advice from unlicensed doctors, or get my vehicle serviced by a mechanic who’s never touched a car before
you mean to tell me she hasn't convinced you to take her online "wife course" lmao
Trent isn't qualified either by your standard. He's not an expert on marriage. I've heard lawyers, social science experts, and people in law that say most of what Pearl says unfortunately
@@ItsSageof😂
@@ItsSageof Every opinion he has on marriage is instantly more valuable because he’s living in a sacramentally valid marriage. Pearl is not.
@@paraconsistentjojo Everyone do your own research, even if it's unflattering, if it's true, it true. Find ways you can fix it
Trent demolished Pearl in this debate. I pray this is just a phase, and that Pearl will realize her identity as a daughter of Christ and come back to the Catholic Church 🙏🏿
Trent technically won the debate but he was exposed of some of the criticisms of marriage that he had no answer for.
Of course it’s a phase. Once she hits 30, she’ll wake up. I hope for her sake.
@@gideondavid30I have to agree with that to a point. Nobody wants to deal with the reality that the scriptures clearly tell us that the man is the head of the house and the marriage. It is the failure to observe that formula that causes so much marital failure today.
he made no points that people who didnt already agree with him would care about
he never addressed any point he even conflated men who watch porn with women that do porn like they are even remotely the same
she didnt preform well and still cleaned his clock
@@SteveJohnson-d1d oh I don't think she cleaned his clock at all. He clearly won the debate, but the primary reason that he won is because she performed so poorly.
Its so obvious Pearl has never been in a loving relationship. Sadly the way she thinks and speaks, she likely never will be
“Because your question is under defined and it can’t be answered.” Where’s the sun glasses, cigar, and gold chain for Trent?!
😂
😂😂😂
Yeah, that is good point, but he lost the whole debate, because simply there is no objective reason for men to marry.
@@jorge-7121 then don't
Trent smoked her. Pearl likes to talk loud and fast so that people can’t hear the other (smarter) person. She made some decent points, but Trent tore them apart.
That's what I took from this, too. She asks a question and promptly throws at Trent multiple other facts in succession, while he is still calmly trying to answer her first point. It makes it look like she has a stronger opinion than she actually does, because he did dismantle her arguments pretty easily when actually given an opportunity to tackle them.
While I agree that marriage and family is the foundation of a society, I dont agree with trent about being a corn star or someone with STDs is not a deal breaker. Pearl is right on that one.
@@beewithab6122she’s not right on that one because it’s not something you or I get to decide for somebody else. Everybody has to make those decisions for themselves, when and if they are faced with them, and the reality is, the vast majority of men will NEVER face that decision. Most women are not current or former porn stars.
@beewithab6122 Even the sins of another can lead us to Hell when we do not forgive them.
@@beewithab6122 when it comes to such things, I agree with Trent. It’s something to be aware of, and is a huge red flag. However, they’re people. If they regret their actions, will never do them again, and repent, they have no right to be completely out of the loop. It’s up to you wether you make that choice or not though. When it comes to STDs, it’s a tougher answer. You may not be able to have marital relations with them, because if the transmission of disease being a risk. However, marriage also cannot be barred or should not be out of the question in such situations, since children can still be a part of that family through adoption or foster care.
Only a woman who has never been pregnant and gone through birth and postpartum would think having and raising kids was some kind of easy way out.
@@katieociardha2196 that is easy, if you're a female adults woman who doesn't complain how much birthing hurts , or male man adults who work hard laboriously which women doesn't really have to at all because of all the machines which help you by years to do work you dont need to now which creates softer females, men who i think should be 100% in construction because were male should work the hardest jobs and females the easier but lower paying jobs, that make more logical sense, very reasonable, now we dont have to imagine, but look at a man who works hard and hurts busts his grinding testicles and be happy you were born female. Simply be thankful , what we all need is strength from God and which we lack both God and strength. It's really not that hard to work hard. What is hard is where do you gain the power , spiritually mainly where we get it so we have to pray God transfers us into physically powerful . Amen see it isn't so hard.
Have you seen how some women raise kids these days? It's bad, they really don't- plenty of people complaining of how bad the next generations are.
@@josuejimenez3562That’s not the point there’s plenty of medical reasons why a Woman could gain weight out of her control. She didn’t pull up one statistic that was correct, I agree its more difficult to date but she’s mainly aiming at Woman. Men are the ones who propose if we’re going off of a traditional marriage.
@@RichardTNNobody is saying to be a stay at home mom 🤡
Birthing children is like a guy ejaculating. It's really not hard at all. Should we praise men for ejaculating?
Wow. Only halfway through this and I’ve gone from someone who previously found Pearl to have a few interesting points and be entertaining to thinking she’s boundlessly shallow and annoying. It’s rare to see someone get so badly beaten in a debate but not have the cognitive capacity to recognize it.
Dude Pearl literally was told every single time to not interrupt and she literally can’t help herself. How horrendous.
Even in the middle of the break when Matt was promoting lol it almost made me want to turn it off.
Where did you find this woman? The Catholic church has enough problems without this ridiculous rant
Because she has an important point to make
@@sylon7717 An important point to make during a time she’s explicitly told not to interrupt AND where she has time afterwards to say something.
Cope reason, she was acting in bad faith as a grifter. Simple as.
@@sylon7717 It doesn't matter in a debate. She waits for her turn to speak until instructed otherwise.