Hi Ant, this video has brought back memories of working trains from Toton to Silverhill and Sutton collieries, as a second man. Silverhill was straightforward enough, but at Sutton, you had to make shunt moves to put your loaded train together. If you had a class 58, it was often hard work as the sidings were awash with coal slurry, which caused lots of wheel-slip, the 58's being prone to slipping anywhere!! Happy Days, gone for good.
Accident Sept 1968 class 20 D8163 & D8189 Both repaired at Crewe Works. Train ran away coming into the Sidings onto a loaded road. Train crew jumped clear.
Driver was Arthur Fletcher (Flash). Lost several toes when he jumped off as his foot went under the loco wheels. He carried on driving and was still driving steam locos at The MRT Butterley into the 90's when I worked there. The cab of the lead 20 was destroyed with most of the coal from the wagon it collided with inside. There's a photo somewhere with recovery in progress with Flying Scotsman passing slowly by on a Northbound Railtour.
Great video I'm a train driver for DB and remember loads of yards just like this in the eighties fond memories of waiting in the mess rooms for your train Great bunch of guys we had such a fun time. If you see any Railway chairs most had the date of manufacture stamped on them you will be surprised about how early they are especially in old yards 😮
Blimey I remember in the mid 60s going to Toton Stapleford & Sandiacre station from Barnsley in my teens, seeing Westhouses station and a triangle of line to the left. Then when I got my car licence I went to Westhouses shed and took some photos of loads of class 20's. I also went to Toton sheds & took loads of photos of the engines there. THE GOOD OLD DAYS. Thanks for reminding me of my youth.
Absolutely brilliant, Been there and its great to have a rummage and find stuff, proper railway exploration , if you enjoy exploring like this, go back to Mansfield concentration sidings, and look opposite the water tower, follow the track formation back, lots of signalling posts still there that have been discarded...there is nothing in the early sidings, but look closely in the lower sidings, there are a few gems in there...loved this video, one of my favourites, well done...👏👍
I can't expand on what as already been said in the comments but just like to add my thanks and appreciation for your time,effort and commitment you take in producing these videos Ant.
Oh yes, No.3 was worth the wait, those yard lamps were something else combined with the backing track, very melancholic. Amazing what thirty odd years does to a place. Great three parter Ant, thanks as usual👍👍👍👍👍
The portakabin in the photos was most likely a TOPS installation. Total Operations Processing System was initiated in the 70's. It provided computer terminals and printers at freight yards linked to a IBM mainframe computer in Marylebone (London). Every freight wagon was in a database and yards would receive listings of wagons coming in. They would sort them as appropriate and then, when the train departed, send the data back into the system. In this way wagon utilisation was improved - probably by 20+ %. This then meant that older wagons could be scrapped and maintenance costs saved. While little shunting was done in these colliery yards train formations would be assembled in the large yards like Toton and Tinsley . The system was improved and modified over the years and now manages all vehicles on the UK rail network. Operators across the country can see where any wagon/coach/engine etc. Is.
Right up my street this one mate, I absolutely love discovering and trying to work out old infrastructure and I’ve become a rail fan in my old age! Love the old heavy diesels
Well done, Its much more overgrown than i remember it. maybe a trip later in the year when there is less undergrowth. lots of bits and bobs on the ground to puzzle over. The Woodhouse sidings are worth a look too!
Hi Ant, your perseverance pays off! I would get totally lost in those woods. You would not believe there would be all those tracks & signals & trains in those woods & all the chat & banter in that siding hut from the railway workers, what an amazing find! Well done. Really enjoyed this, worth the wait Ant. ❤😊
Nice one Ant another great vid cracking find in that old yard and it was good to see the buildings on some of them pics to just to see how they were back in the day.
Ant, what looked like a disappointing venture, turned out to be a great discovery. That shunters quarters and mess room were a very good find after all that time that the yard had closed. The other yard lamp finds were amazing too. It's again, hard to take it in that the place was so busy, with all that merry-go-round coal traffic just gone forever! The photo in the mess-room of the rail staff, I guess that the drivers would no doubt have been Toton men. Most of the locos would have been from that depot, too. They lost a hell of a lot of work when all the collieries closed. Anyhow, many thanks for this enjoyable film.
Thank you for the video, I love old railways as Aberdeen has one but its a bit to long to walk as it about 25mile long and it was used as our late Queen RIP god bless everyone
Nice one, Ant. It definitely paid to have a root around. Some classic bits of history there. Thank you for all you do and all your research and pictures. I really appreciate it. Thanks for sharing.
Love your work mate; always find myself just getting engrossed into all of your videos. It's strange, being born in the early 90s and therefore after most pits had closed round Mansfield & surrounding areas, it's hard for me to picture that our town once had these booming coal & textile industries. Its a real shame, but your videos make me nostalgic for a time I've never seen. ..as I say, love your work, keep it up! Very informative above all else 👏 😊
Back in the sixties I used to travel a lot between Nottingham and Sheffield on the then new M1. The heavy industry, coal and rail has now mostly gone replaced by various warehouses and factory units. The huge amount of landscaping of old spoll heaps as well. Amazing the change in less than a lifetime. Great production Ant, as usual. Brilliant archives for future generations.
Really enjoyable ramble through the bushes Ant - staggering how quickly trees take over a deserted area. I enjoyed seeing the shots, and video, of the Merry Go Round trains - maybe the MGRs deserves a video of it's own showing the routes still open and the closed ones - many of which you have visited. The MGR system was sound until there was a strike and they discovered there was not enough siding space to hold all the trains!
Absolutely awesome video. It's very interesting. I always find on railway explorations that the best things are always well hidden. It's definitely worth going off track and deviating into woodlands because they often hold secrets. Again, great video
Excellent video footage Ant, just love it. Just thought I would let you know the type of fishplate you found near the platelayers hut. It's known as a junction plate, or transition plate. It is used when the type of rail changes from Bullhead rail (95) to Flatbottom (113).
I see what you mean now Ant when you said it gets better. What a find with those buildings and some of the other bits as well. I look forward to the next part now 😊
That was most definitely worth an explore some amazing finds . Guessing they lost interest before they totally cleared the site or maybe used the buildings as a shelter while doing so . Whatever was great stuff Ant .
@@TrekkingExploration I will have a look when I am walking my dog down there next. I used to be able to access some of the old Sidings and one of the shelters.
Really enjoyed that video.Excellent research too to get the pictures and footage of how it used to look. Very well done. I was wondering if there is anything left of the old station called Derby Friargate?
Ant, you read my mind on the fact that there was a total lack of "graffiti" or what some call "street art." Thanks for walking for us, wish I was there also........
That was brilliant I would love to see you explore Skelton junction in Timperley, As would hundreds of others. It's truly fascinating, And the lines which pass through have great significance in that their destinations are highly important places of industry taking products from quarry, to rail, to sea, and across the world
When we think of the end of coal mining we don't tend to think of the knock on effect in other industries that supported the coal industry, Tibby is a great example of this, wherever there was coal there were railways, when coal went so did they. Not only the drivers, track workers, signalmen etc lost jobs but all the rail support industries too. I don't think anyone has ever worked out the wider consequences but it must have been massive.
Hello Ant. Just wanted to inform you that I have Lo Gehrig’s Disease.. There is no cure for it. Will continue to follow your channel to the end.. See you on the next. Always look forward to them. Cheers Ant!! ❤😢
Hi mate im unsure if your aware of an old street under Broadmarsh, there's access now its a vacant building site, also as I mentioned before a massive war bunker under the old player's factory in Radford plenty of artifacts its untouched,
The modern building would've been relocated at about when the yard was officially closed. The brick buildings would've been the last assets still being used when the last tracks were lifted.
Hi Ant. At 14.22 you say the passing train was heading to Liverpool Street.... Did you mean that or is there another Liverpool Street, not just the one in London? Phil
I’m old,,,, how can trees grow that quickly , I used to explore buildings from the war when it was 1980 and felt it was hundreds of years ago and now if I went to derby area my mind expects to see old locos and yards but you now show me this it’s shocked me, how time has eaten up the yard , sad
Whilst Accurascale can be applauded for the range of mineral wagons being produced, at £25 each they are taking the proverbial! These were found in their hundreds in all states of use on the railway and if you wanted just 10 it would cost you £250. Who are they expecting to buy these - not your average modeller.
Good videos but should really give credit to and get permission from the people whose media is used in your productions. This is why i watermark all my stuff!
Where credit is available I do as you'll see with the provided names. Some images are shared as photographer unknown as it's impossible to trace the original source. Which image are you referring too?
Hi Ant, this video has brought back memories of working trains from Toton to Silverhill and Sutton collieries, as a second man. Silverhill was straightforward enough, but at Sutton, you had to make shunt moves to put your loaded train together. If you had a class 58, it was often hard work as the sidings were awash with coal slurry, which caused lots of wheel-slip, the 58's being prone to slipping anywhere!! Happy Days, gone for good.
Accident Sept 1968 class 20 D8163 & D8189 Both repaired at Crewe Works. Train ran away coming into the Sidings onto a loaded road. Train crew jumped clear.
Driver was Arthur Fletcher (Flash). Lost several toes when he jumped off as his foot went under the loco wheels. He carried on driving and was still driving steam locos at The MRT Butterley into the 90's when I worked there. The cab of the lead 20 was destroyed with most of the coal from the wagon it collided with inside. There's a photo somewhere with recovery in progress with Flying Scotsman passing slowly by on a Northbound Railtour.
Great video I'm a train driver for DB and remember loads of yards just like this in the eighties fond memories of waiting in the mess rooms for your train Great bunch of guys we had such a fun time. If you see any Railway chairs most had the date of manufacture stamped on them you will be surprised about how early they are especially in old yards 😮
I was getting worried that you were stopping the channel. Such a professional, keep these videos coming our way when you can!
26:18 takes me back to being very young. We just never knew how much of a wonderful era we were in
wow! great finds. I get a trememndous sense of melancholy for what was, what is lost and the lives affected irrevocably
Blimey I remember in the mid 60s going to Toton Stapleford & Sandiacre station from Barnsley in my teens, seeing Westhouses station and a triangle of line to the left. Then when I got my car licence I went to Westhouses shed and took some photos of loads of class 20's. I also went to Toton sheds & took loads of photos of the engines there.
THE GOOD OLD DAYS. Thanks for reminding me of my youth.
You sir have out done yourself with this video
To also have footage of a class 60 passing the same building really puts it into perspective
absolutely worthwhile. great and interesting finds. .
Absolutely brilliant, Been there and its great to have a rummage and find stuff, proper railway exploration , if you enjoy exploring like this, go back to Mansfield concentration sidings, and look opposite the water tower, follow the track formation back, lots of signalling posts still there that have been discarded...there is nothing in the early sidings, but look closely in the lower sidings, there are a few gems in there...loved this video, one of my favourites, well done...👏👍
Thanks very much Jon. It might be worth a revisit in the winter. I should do the Con again in the winter
I can't expand on what as already been said in the comments but just like to add my thanks and appreciation for your time,effort and commitment you take in producing these videos Ant.
Thank you John that's very kind 😊
Oh yes, No.3 was worth the wait, those yard lamps were something else combined with the backing track, very melancholic. Amazing what thirty odd years does to a place. Great three parter Ant, thanks as usual👍👍👍👍👍
The portakabin in the photos was most likely a TOPS installation. Total Operations Processing System was initiated in the 70's. It provided computer terminals and printers at freight yards linked to a IBM mainframe computer in Marylebone (London). Every freight wagon was in a database and yards would receive listings of wagons coming in. They would sort them as appropriate and then, when the train departed, send the data back into the system. In this way wagon utilisation was improved - probably by 20+ %.
This then meant that older wagons could be scrapped and maintenance costs saved. While little shunting was done in these colliery yards train formations would be assembled in the large yards like Toton and Tinsley .
The system was improved and modified over the years and now manages all vehicles on the UK rail network. Operators across the country can see where any wagon/coach/engine etc. Is.
Right up my street this one mate, I absolutely love discovering and trying to work out old infrastructure and I’ve become a rail fan in my old age! Love the old heavy diesels
Amazing how quickly nature reclaims a site.
Well done, Its much more overgrown than i remember it. maybe a trip later in the year when there is less undergrowth. lots of bits and bobs on the ground to puzzle over. The Woodhouse sidings are worth a look too!
Thanks very much for watching.
Woodhouse near Sheffield?
Yes between beighton and woodhouse under the A57 not sure how much is there now as it must be 15 years ago I was there last! @@TrekkingExploration
@wobblyrunnerexploration has done beighton sidings and found allsorts there
Hi Ant, your perseverance pays off! I would get totally lost in those woods. You would not believe there would be all those tracks & signals & trains in those woods & all the chat & banter in that siding hut from the railway workers, what an amazing find! Well done. Really enjoyed this, worth the wait Ant. ❤😊
Brilliant video again Ant, a pleasure to watch.
Hope your ok.👍🙂
Thanks very much Ian I've been looking forward to sharing this one
You were well rewarded for your perseverance. What great finds. Brilliant video Ant 😊
Nice one Ant another great vid cracking find in that old yard and it was good to see the buildings on some of them pics to just to see how they were back in the day.
Ant, what looked like a disappointing venture, turned out to be a great discovery. That shunters quarters and mess room were a very good find after all that time that the yard had closed. The other yard lamp finds were amazing too. It's again, hard to take it in that the place was so busy, with all that merry-go-round coal traffic just gone forever! The photo in the mess-room of the rail staff, I guess that the drivers would no doubt have been Toton men. Most of the locos would have been from that depot, too. They lost a hell of a lot of work when all the collieries closed. Anyhow, many thanks for this enjoyable film.
Thank you for the video, I love old railways as Aberdeen has one but its a bit to long to walk as it about 25mile long and it was used as our late Queen RIP god bless everyone
Nice one, Ant. It definitely paid to have a root around. Some classic bits of history there. Thank you for all you do and all your research and pictures. I really appreciate it. Thanks for sharing.
Absolutely fantastic, as usual. What a lot to see. Loved every little and big bit. Thanks for taking me along. Please take care
Nice video Ant, this was well worth the effort. It looks like the loco has crashed into a coal wagon.
Love your work mate; always find myself just getting engrossed into all of your videos. It's strange, being born in the early 90s and therefore after most pits had closed round Mansfield & surrounding areas, it's hard for me to picture that our town once had these booming coal & textile industries. Its a real shame, but your videos make me nostalgic for a time I've never seen. ..as I say, love your work, keep it up! Very informative above all else 👏 😊
Back in the sixties I used to travel a lot between Nottingham and Sheffield on the then new M1. The heavy industry, coal and rail has now mostly gone replaced by various warehouses and factory units. The huge amount of landscaping of old spoll heaps as well. Amazing the change in less than a lifetime. Great production Ant, as usual. Brilliant archives for future generations.
Amazing to see all this is still here Ant
Thanks for watching Steve
Really enjoyable ramble through the bushes Ant - staggering how quickly trees take over a deserted area.
I enjoyed seeing the shots, and video, of the Merry Go Round trains - maybe the MGRs deserves a video of it's own showing the routes still open and the closed ones - many of which you have visited. The MGR system was sound until there was a strike and they discovered there was not enough siding space to hold all the trains!
Trainspotting and exploration = a very enjoyable video, thank you. With some great finds and archive pics, and film. Great stuff. All the best.
Thanks very much Tim. Pleased you enjoyed it
Wonderful video mate. Incredible find to boot! Thanks cobber. Appreciated. Cheers
Another fantastic video and series.
Thanks very much Carl 😁
Absolutely awesome video. It's very interesting. I always find on railway explorations that the best things are always well hidden. It's definitely worth going off track and deviating into woodlands because they often hold secrets.
Again, great video
Excellent video footage Ant, just love it.
Just thought I would let you know the type of fishplate you found near the platelayers hut. It's known as a junction plate, or transition plate. It is used when the type of rail changes from Bullhead rail (95) to Flatbottom (113).
Great series, thoroughly enjoyed it. Your determination to find out about a railway is brilliant and I am totally engrossed....Thanks Ant...
Hi Ant, excellent mini series, really enjoyable. Thank you so much.
Thanks very much Philip very kind
That bit of metal at 5:46 looks like a fire bar from a locomotive firebox.
Great video and very enjoyable. Many thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it thanks very much 😊
I see what you mean now Ant when you said it gets better. What a find with those buildings and some of the other bits as well. I look forward to the next part now 😊
Excellent video footage here👍👌
Used to visit Westhouses with my dad.
I suppose there's no scrap value in the yard lamps! Great video, Ant. Thanks
Probably not. Probably a bugger to remove too
Smashing video that sir. You've got a new subscriber.
Thanks very much Jamie 😄
Fascinating film. Thank you.
Thank you very much 😊
That was most definitely worth an explore some amazing finds . Guessing they lost interest before they totally cleared the site or maybe used the buildings as a shelter while doing so .
Whatever was great stuff Ant .
Thanks very much I'm pleased you enjoyed it. May be worth a quick return in the winter
Fantastic mate 👏 this has been a great series 👍
Excellent explore Ant 👍
Another interesting video today.trying to catch up. Cheers Ant! ❤😊
You can find a similar thing and a couple of air raid shelters at Toton Sidings in Long Eaton
I had a little look for them, there beyond the fence?
@@TrekkingExploration I will have a look when I am walking my dog down there next. I used to be able to access some of the old Sidings and one of the shelters.
Wow there’s some fascinating finds.
It's a little forgotten world
Well done Ant; thought you would have gone up one of the ladders 🤔can’t wait for the west houses one 👍
Really enjoyed that video.Excellent research too to get the pictures and footage of how it used to look. Very well done. I was wondering if there is anything left of the old station called Derby Friargate?
fantastic finale ant to a great 3 parter,healey mills at at ossett going back to nature slowly once a great yard
Thank you.Ant.👍
Some fantastic finds there Ant 👍🚂
If you ever fancy popping down drop a message
Thanks Ant, likewise if you're planning anything around Barnsley give us a shout.
Ant, you read my mind on the fact that there was a total lack of "graffiti" or what some call "street art." Thanks for walking for us, wish I was there also........
Wow amazing video again. I not been good lots of scares of cancer still got one more test to do. I've missed ur cheeky chat xxx
Message me x
I did awwww
Great find!
Thanks for watching Lisa 😊
@@TrekkingExploration I’m always watching 🤓
Really interesting video.
That was brilliant
I would love to see you explore Skelton junction in Timperley,
As would hundreds of others.
It's truly fascinating,
And the lines which pass through have great significance in that their destinations are highly important places of industry taking products from quarry, to rail, to sea, and across the world
Amazing video
Thanks Martin
Brilliant, thank you!
Thanks very much Angela
Love it mate.exploring
An activity lost on today's kids
Cheers mate thanks for watching
The class 60 going passed shows how recent it was and how nature has taken over or am I showing my age!
1992 I believe that footage was
Very good Ant - but always sad to see when they take the Railway away!!!! 🤔🚂🚂🚂
When we think of the end of coal mining we don't tend to think of the knock on effect in other industries that supported the coal industry, Tibby is a great example of this, wherever there was coal there were railways, when coal went so did they. Not only the drivers, track workers, signalmen etc lost jobs but all the rail support industries too. I don't think anyone has ever worked out the wider consequences but it must have been massive.
Top drawer as usual Ant
Thanks very much 😊
Hello Ant. Just wanted to inform you that I have Lo Gehrig’s Disease.. There is no cure for it. Will continue to follow your channel to the end.. See you on the next. Always look forward to them. Cheers Ant!! ❤😢
You wouldn't think , they'd build in and around trees.
Looks an idyllic place - reconquered by nature. The local train station looks much the same - closed in 60s.
It was quite a peaceful location
brilliant!
Thanks very much
We can match your sidings and brew shack plus a bonus air raid shelter up here in Wigan. but no lamp posts.
Sounds interesting.... worth a visit?
Yep, cos we can show you some of the other hidden treasures around, like 20 arches n domino's
The air raid shelter near Gidlow cemetery? (Fellow Wiganer)
@@iantwigg6983 didn't know bout that one.. I was referring to the springs branch one..
Can I ask which end you walked in from is it glovers lane or Alfreton road please
Have you ever walked the the trans pennine trail that’s near Arkwright in Derbyshire? Is this part of the great central or just a colliery line ??
Hi mate im unsure if your aware of an old street under Broadmarsh, there's access now its a vacant building site, also as I mentioned before a massive war bunker under the old player's factory in Radford plenty of artifacts its untouched,
Oh that's interesting is it easy enough to get to?
Hi at first the one on the ground was a fire bar out of a steam loco fire box next to the wagon spring
The modern building would've been relocated at about when the yard was officially closed. The brick buildings would've been the last assets still being used when the last tracks were lifted.
Used to drive coal trains to there and up to Silverhill Colliery.
When is sandsend etc coming please?
Should be before the end of the year 👍
"I'm not going to climb up it"
8 rungs later..... 😂
Classic.
Hi I really like your videos I'm from the Isle of Wight and my goal is to find every single Wherry Line on the island❤
5:46 steam locomotive fire bar
If anything good as come from the closures of these lines its the increase in birch trees!
Hi Ant.
At 14.22 you say the passing train was heading to Liverpool Street.... Did you mean that or is there another Liverpool Street, not just the one in London?
Phil
Should have been Liverpool Lime Street 😊
Of course! Thanks.
Those trees grow fast don't they 😊
C'mon bloke I can see the ground, it's not that thick... 9:33
As somebody from South Derbyshire,I know Tibshelf is way more north than proper South Derbyshire.
Okay
I’m old,,,, how can trees grow that quickly , I used to explore buildings from the war when it was 1980 and felt it was hundreds of years ago and now if I went to derby area my mind expects to see old locos and yards but you now show me this it’s shocked me, how time has eaten up the yard , sad
15:32 Looks like Frank Brown at the front.
😊😊
Whilst Accurascale can be applauded for the range of mineral wagons being produced, at £25 each they are taking the proverbial! These were found in their hundreds in all states of use on the railway and if you wanted just 10 it would cost you £250. Who are they expecting to buy these - not your average modeller.
Always seems strange to just walk away and just leave things? You'd think the bricks would certainly be worth something by themselves?
Good videos but should really give credit to and get permission from the people whose media is used in your productions. This is why i watermark all my stuff!
Where credit is available I do as you'll see with the provided names. Some images are shared as photographer unknown as it's impossible to trace the original source. Which image are you referring too?
tempted climb the ladder?
Hey Ant,
Not seen you in my Y.T feed for weeks.
Hope all is well.
Please let us know youre ok.
❤
the crash looks like it is buried in a 16 ton flat
Elliot hannaford you to day going