Cromer & the Forgotten Railway with a lot of Lost Secrets - Norfolk & Suffolk Joint
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Cromer & the Forgotten Railway with a lot of Lost Secrets - Norfolk & Suffolk Joint Railway
There was once a railway in Norfolk, popular for holidaymakers and golfers alike!
The Norfolk & Suffolk Joint Railway ran from East Runton ( Cromer ) passing through many coastal and inland towns and villages before looping around to North Walsham onto the Norwich to Cromer / Sheringham line.
In this walk & explore i begin at East Runton to take a look at the fine viaduct that sits disused right beside her active sister. Next up its Cromer Tunnel, even many locals no nothing about this one!
Next onto the sites of Cromer Links Halt & Overstrand Station, which is still here to this day!
Finally we end up at Trimingham and a lovely bridge / viaduct that is in great condition.
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It's sad that a very tiny group in society feel it's acceptable to deface these amazing engineering relics of the past with their obscene, meaningless graffitti. Locally, at Thrapston on the old Ketting to Cambridge line, the viaduct over the river Nene has been vandalised. I can't think what pleasure these people get from their actions.
In some cases it's because they have nothing to do because local government have cut funding to youth clubs etc.
Another absolutely brilliant video, made very interesting watching, thank you.
Thank you so very much Brian 🙂
Would love it if you could get access to Overstrand Station what a find!
It would be lovely wouldn't it? Fingers crossed 🙂
Fantastic mate another amazing video on Norfolk’s history..looking forward to the next instalment great work
Have you ever visited the remains of the second tunnel at Norfolk to or what was a tunnel ?? Could be great short video
Cheers mate. That'll be around January i think 🙂👍
11:30 ‘Mund-des-lee’….?? 😂
(Mundesley is pronounced ‘Munds-Lee’… 😉)
I still have issues pronouncing some around the Midlands 😂 Bolsover is pronounced balsah but I still say it as it's spelt 😂
Another great video. Far more interesting than anything they show on regular TV. Thanks for all the hard work you put into making these.
Thank you very much Neil that's much appreciated 🙂
Agreed. Then again most TH-cam content is more interesting than tv. But don't forget Rob Bell's 2 series of Walking Britain's lost railways on Ch.5 was very good.
Agreed!👏❤️ Shout out from Norway!
@@SnowdriftBoy thank you 🙂🙂
Well said❤👍
If you look at the photo 15:00 the signal post looks like the concrete at 14:00 .
Outstanding work Ant.
Built when people took a pride in their work. Beautiful bridges and a wonderful video Ant.
Exactly true. Thank you for watching as always 🙂
They'll be saying the same in 100 years or so about today's engineers, tomorrow's engineering will most likely be built with little or no human input from design to completion, using techniques that we haven't even thought of yet.
Even though I live just outside of Cromer, I love videos like this. Would be amazing if some of these lines operated today still!
I used to play in the tunnels and the woods in Cromer brings back a lot of childhood memories surprised more people don’t know about the history
Little woods and big woods in suffield park
Another interesting film; thank you
There are many photos of the lines you've featured in the Middleton Press book Branch Lines around Cromer, and there are also some on the Blue-Pelican Flickr site; back in the 1970s, I remember seeing Overstrand station from a car, and I think it must have been visible from the Cromer - Mundesley road at that time
Are you sure the track was singled over the Runton Viaduct before closure? The reason for that side of the triangle being retained after the withdrawal of passenger services was for freight trains between Norwich City/the Lenwade Concrete Plant and Norwich Thorpe, and this need ceased to exist when the Themelthorpe Curve opened in September 1960; after then, the freights shortened their journey between the two points considerably, and used the ex GER route through Aylsham to Wroxham, part of which is now used by the Bure Valley Railway. Photos of the Runton junctions taken in September 1960 show the abandoned curve as still being double track at the time the freights were diverted.
A complete abutment of the bridge which carried the line into Cromer High still stands on Station Road, with part of the other one still standing opposite - looks from the bus as if it's now a garden retaining wall
A great video , I’m a local to this wonderful area and have played on the bridge at Overstrand in my younger years and remember bridges being remove or filled in. With the building of houses and the removal of parts of the track I believe this would be one of the best walking routes on the coast from Cromer to mundesley.
Really excellent coverage of this former line! As others have said your attention to detail is superb. If your ever across in my home county again Weavers Way covers a lot of disused railway, inparticular Stalham to Bengate just South Of N Walsham. Honing Station site is must see, also a bit of canal to see! Looking forward to seeing some more Marriott's way if possible!
Thank you very much for your kind words. I'll have a Search of that one later this week and look into it 🙂
@@TrekkingExploration thanks Ant, would love to see this covered when your back in Norfolk especially seeing it by drone if possible! you and the channel viewers wouldn't be disappointed with Honing there is also a very unique ornate bridge past there. Would recommend starting from Bengate end. Looking forward to the upcoming videos they look intriguing!
such a shame these lines were stopped.
It really is... Thankyou for watching :)
Really enjoyed this, now feeling inspired to go and check out some of those surprise accessible paths you found! All looking great in the autumn colours as well. Keep up the great work 👏
Thank you very much Katy. It took some commitment but it was enjoyable 🙂
Another great vid Ant . Some great finds along the way loved the over bridges such stunning build .
It is amazing that all that hard work was put in for 60 years of use .Was clearly a line which had no real future as little in the way of passenger possibility except summer traffic .
Looking forward to seeing the next part .
You always come up with really interesting videos, Ant. Loved this one - but always feel sad when I see lovely bridges, viaducts and tunnels being left to rot. Look forward to the next one. Thanks so much.
Cheers Simon. I found more on this one than I expected. I'll be back in January to carry this one on 🙂
I've come from part 2. Loved it Ant. Thank you so much for sharing part of our heritage.
Winston Churchill used this line a lot during the war, when he stayed at Pear Tree Cottage in Overstrand.
Thank you that's some really interesting information. 🙂
Yet another top class vid,narrated well,and very much a learning curve for me.After 54yrs as a railway man,now retired,this is an area I know very little about,so it’s absolutely great that Ant takes us into that area,and discovers what’s left.Fantastic.Look forward to the next instalment.
I stumbled across your channel and this video was fascinating, there is a whole series that could be made with the lost Norfolk and Suffolk railways lines. Not sure where you’re based but please make some more, I’m a Suffolk boy and loved this, I find it so so sad that these lines where closed after such a short time with all that hard work and the irony is most of these lines would now be making money. Great stuff, thank you
So glad you enjoyed it and thank you. I'm in Nottinghamshire so most of my stuff is from the Midlands however having family in Norfolk I always take the opportunity to visit somewhere whilst there 🙂
I used to live in Mundesley and was took quite an interest in the M&GN railway and like you have walked much of the route to Cromer and the other way to Yarmouth. You missed a couple of bridges between Trimingham and the viaduct. The cutting coming out of Trimingham was filled in a the land reclaimed for agriculture, but there are still two brick bridges that were not demolished but just infilled. One of the bridges, carries a footpath, is in the middle of a field. All that is visible are two parallel walls. I always thought that line would have made an amazing preserved railway particularly the high embankment just before Trimingham. Those strategically placed housing developments put pay to that.
It's a lovely little route and one I'll look forward to continuing along. I'll have to try to find these bridge's 🙂 Thank you for watching
@@TrekkingExploration I live on this line. in sidestrand (my house in in your drone shot) I alwasy wonder what it would of been like in the old days. just this weekend I renewed a post in my old barn and I think it is a rail way sleep from this line. I think a lot of the materials got used localy. in sidestrand where the bridge is missing I remeber that it used to be very sandy untill the farmer dug it all out to what it looks now.
Also you missed a lovly bridge just after this spot near ivy farm ( you wouldnt of seen it walking over it as you where so high up.
do you have a map of exacly where the sidestrand station would of been?
Also is there any way I could have a copy of the pics of the maps and the pic of the sistrand station. I would like to frame it for my wall
Thank you
Dr Richard Beeching had no idea how much his decision to close the old railway lines contributed to global warming. One can shift far greater loads on rail than on road. Perhaps one day the old track beds might have the lines reinstated... .... not in my lifetime, sadly.
Dr beeching was not responsible for the closure of this stretch of line , the cromer beach station via Newstead Lane junction to Mundesley closed easter weekend 1953 , a full 8 years before beeching appeared in 1961 , the section from Mundesley to North Walsham, antingham Road junction lasted until 1964 (October) the section ant walked had an operation of only 47 years. A resident of cromer.
Much of the brickwork appears in excellent condition, apart from a few cracks. The lovely old photographs and maps contributed to a very interesting video. Looking forward to the next part. Well done!
Thank you very much Malcolm that's very kind 🙂
Fantastic video Ant, There is so much yet to be explored. I have walked parts of this line, interestingly the concrete post at Cromer links halt is an early example of an MRC signal post (Marriott Reinforced concrete) produced at Melton Constable. There is another one intact at the site of Aylsham North station.
The concrete object at 14.00min is a single signal post made at the Melton Constable concrete works of the Great Eastern Railway,probably by the LNER.
Not sure when the bridge between Northrepps Road and Cromer Link Halt was demolished. Possibly in the 90s. Remember walking over it from the Forest Park Caravan site to the main road from Cromer in the 80s.
More of our lost heritage smothered and neglected as you would expect. So much of it across the UK much of it could be used to take buses off the roads by using single car trains or trams. Very strange. As someone who doesn't drive some of this would be so helpful for me!
Yes at Cromer Links Halt on the embankment that concrete structure is the signal post in the black and white old photo and was the distant for Roughton Road Junction where todays line from Norwich joined the Norfolk and Suffolk Joint. The orignal Great Eastern line from Cromer High Station to Norwich passed over the tunnel to join todays line from Norwich at Cromer Junction.
Fab explore. Filming amazing. Great walk and scenery but at the same time sad that the trains are gone now. Loved the tunnels and walls and bricks. Brilliant Ant. Thank you.
Thanks so very much. As always I'm so pleased you enjoyed it 🙂
Great video, your enthusiasm is infectious, thoroughly enjoyed it.
Good explore Ant. Always satisfying when you unexpectedly come across substantial remains. Look forward to part 2.
Even though I don't know much about your history as I'm from Wales I do find you channel very interesting and educational.
Thank you very much that's very kind 🙂
I've never ever heard of this line before, Ant, which makes it more interesting to me. To see the bridges and/or bridge abutments still there is a real marvel in itself. It must have been a great route to travel when passenger trains were using in their heyday of service. A very well explained video, with the maps and photos of certain locations is fantastic. I can honestly say that I've never seen old maps before, with lettering to speak of proposed lines to be opened at a later date. Many thanks for this production, and look forward to your next one.
Please , please , please would you do a video on the Norfolk Orbital Railway proposed route
Great video as always but why not knock on a few doors sometimes and ask people if you can film things…You probably will find most people very accommodating and interested in what you are doing.
The slotted reinforced concrete object lying on the ground near the bridge abutment adjacent to Northrepps road is the remains of a signal post of the same type shown in the photo of the golf links halt. A little further on in the late 1950's I remember seeing a camping coach at Mundersly station.
interesting, Dr Beeching a man who knew the price of everything and the value of nothing, as today we're all condemned for using our cars, after all the railways have been closed.
West and East Runton are lovely many happy holidays in Sheringham
as a ps to my recent post; some more railway photos of these lines can be found on the Blue-pelican-railway Flickr site
the viaducts are not where you indicated first but correct on second showing
the ducts cross the between lower common and buxton close
something you dont know but if you look at lower pond east runton the bricks used there come from the viaduct
we used to lay pennies on the tracks to flatten them
Another fantastic video. I too, have explored a little bit of this line, whilst on holiday in Cromer. It's a lovely unspoilt area to visit. Yes, it's a pity the railway was so short lived. Keep up the good work.
I didn't realise cromer had such a hidden railway. I knew it has old tracks, but not like this.
I live locally to this line and was always fascinated by it, day dreaming as a child about what it would be like to travel on it.
Now many years on, I decided to recreate it on a simulation game called Train simulator. I gathered as much info as I could, gradient charts, maps and like you, walked as much of the line and area as I could.
I set to work and after many hundreds of hours squinting at computer screens, I now know what the was like to ride on and drive, all the way to Great Yarmouth .The northern section was very pretty and hilly by Norfolk standards, with many long drags of 1 in 100 or steeper!
Great video as always!
Great video loved this one I really enjoyed the walk I did thanks again ❤
Welcome back to Norfolk I could of bought you a pint😄
The concrete formation at 14:00 looks like the signal pole at 14:58 on the photo of the halt.
Well done for your work as some who kowns all this network amzinf work
Very interesting walk with exciting history, thx!
What is the website you get the old maps from please???
Such amazing engineering, I wonder how long it took to build this railway, huge amount of earth works.
What a shame it’s gone and impossible to reinstate, I’m sure it would be a busy line these days.
Only just discovered this channel and have enjoyed what i have watched so far.
I believe it would have been a busy one today. That loop around visiting all those coastal towns and villages would have been nice. Thank you for watching ☺️
Great and very interesting video Ant, i've been over that Bridge tunnel loads of times, but never seen inside it thanks .Nice pictures of the viaduct being constructed .
Thanks for posting love these vids. If you get a chance, can I suggest you trace the old route from Wells to Kings Lynn and Kings Lynn to Hunstanton there's some fantastic stuff to see and a few of the old stations and platforms are still there - Heacham/Docking for example.
Great Video and loved the finds you found.
I found this video of great interest, as a young child I went from Overstrand to Sheringham. There's one issue though, it was in August 1966, supposedly 10+ years after the line had closed for passenger traffic and 2 years after closure for freight. As we waited on the platform, Mum, Dad and 2 sisters my Mum proclaimed "It's a Steam Train" as the train pulled into the station. If anyone knows could it have been one of the 'Summer Specials'. Memory changes with time as I was only 7, but a vivid memory is of my Mum scolding me for looking out the window and getting 'soot' marks over my face by the time we got to Sheringham. We'd stayed at the Court Hotel and I remember walking up the long gravel path / track to the station. Also you could only go so far along the beach towards Sidestrand and Trimingham as the beach was closed because it had not been cleared of mines from WW2.
Thats a lovely recollection of memories there. I wonder how busy this line would be today if open?
Done the little one swaffham stil got a signal
Please reply to my previous message.
Thank you for this video , very interesting and well presented, well done.
Thanks very much Barry 🙂
Great Video as usual Ant
Hello Ant. - @ 3:34 - that looks like the same way how they built the Monsal Viaduct along the Monsal Trail back in the day!!! 🤔🚂🚂🚂
Absolutely brilliant Ant' 😃👍🏻 So interesting to see what once was and then the maps to really show where things were. I hope you can get access to that covered walkway upto the station there cus that would be an amazing look around. It never ceases to amaze me how good the blue brick constructions are.
Buying fish and crabs from Cromer fish market was a delight for me when I visited West Runton. Great video, as always.
Excellent video...
Thx Any; only 5 secs in and I know I'm gonna be in for a treat! As usual Shazam is ready for action...
I love all the railway adventures its so fasinating indeed
Thanks David I'll keep them coming
Amazing stuff. Thank You again.
I think the Reedham swing bridge is worth visit 😃
Excellent. I like how you keep the viewer orientated and explain the direction of the viewpoint. Looking forward to your other videos
Great video, we live in one of the houses where the Links Halt bridge was. Love walking along the line to Overstrand. Keep up the great work
7:53 Untrue!
The old steps to the station are still there - though largely overgrown and with a Sycamore tree grown up through them last I'd checked!
Co-ordinates below: 52.9204, 1.3062
I had a look up there that's all I could see. As for remnants of the platforms, buildings there's nothing there?
@@TrekkingExploration
They're there.
You have to walk upto the tree line.
You can see where they are on the OS Map.
It's the double lines running off to nowhere.
Edit: Oh, did you mean that the steps were the only thing you could see?
Can't wait for the next video. The line runs behind my parents house!
excellent video as always👍 so sad😟 to see what it was like in it's heyday and what it is like now it would have been a lovely railway to ride along sad it only lasted 60 years what a waste when so much was put into it it should have never been closed we need these railway lines what a waste do we know why it closed look forward to the next video
My husband grew up in Cromer. We regularly drive under these viaducts when we are up in Cromer. They are just superb constructions. Great video as always! Binged your videos tonight
Thanks so very much.... That's very kind I'm glad you are enjoying them 🙂
Thanks for another cracking vlog very interesting story 😊
How high are you legally allowed to fly your drone ?
It's 400 feet or 120 metres
You have a great eye for beauty 😍
Awwwwe thanks ❤️
Thanks for sharing. Greetings from Australia.
Beeching sure did wrong with this
Many years before Beeching, its a case of built late closed early!
Another good video of Cromer & the Forgotten Railway with a lot of Lost Secrets - Norfolk & Suffolk Joint!.💙💙💙💙
Thank you very much Michael 🙂
Great video Ant, its always fantastic to come across something unexpected railway wise, just makes the walk all the more worthwhile.
Thanks very much. It's a very forgotten route and one even I was surprised to find a few things on
Another great video,Ant, xx
Thank you 🙂
Flippin' 'eck Ant, that was a two cuppa journey!!!!! What fantastic bridges, built like the proverbial you know what. They were obviously expecting a lot of punters looking at the size of some of those stations. I'll be getting the kettle on for the next instalment then!!!🤣🤣👍👍
Ha I know, some of them looked barely long enough for two carriages yet others looked the usual size and length. Probably set a camp stove up next to the sofa for the next long one 😂
Nice video Ant, love the railway video's keep them coming.....
Thanks very much Chris 🙂
Thank you for this video it's amazing ! I love Norfolk railway history, so I'm going to have to find those footpaths you took and have an explore 😃👍
I'm pleased that you enjoyed it and thank you so very much for watching 🙂🙂
Hi Ant, exceptional quality and hard work, all for us to enjoy with you. Thank you.
Thanks so much Phillip I'm pleased you enjoyed it 🙂
Amazing brick work. Am lost talent! Thank you for sharing. 🇨🇦
Thank you very much Les 🙂
Scintillating, & to think I've cycled around that area & hadn't registered its existence
I was surprised to find some of what I did. Thank you for watching 🙂
Lovely video, as always. Shame about the mindless idiots doing all that grafitti.
Glad you enjoyed it and thank you. Yes the tunnel graffiti 😔
Great video, I like how you go into detail and show everything(barring private land) amazing :)
Thank you Andrew that's much appreciated 🙂🙂
No-one covers this kind of stuff as well as this. Thanks Ant, brilliant, interesting stuff.
Thank you Jon that is very kind of you to say
OMG fabulous
Glad you enjoyed it. Part 2 should be on next week
That's great, I've traveled the line from Sheringham to Cromer and on to London a good few years ago, I'm looking forward to part two
Thanks very much Peter I'll probably be back down sometime around Christmas 🙂
Had a great day off watching TH-cam, loving this 👍
Cheers Neil thanks very much 🙂
Good to see you again. Another great and interesting video as usual. Keep in touch, Ant. See you on the next. Cheers Ant!
Cheers Martin thanks very much as always 🙂
Why doesn't the local government turn it into a trail to increase tourism? Well done by the way on another interesting vlog.
Thanks for watching Robin. I agree about the paths that could be made, this one is pretty much lost in most places though 😔
top notch
Thanks very much 🙏
in the sequence starting at 39:30 one can see by the layers of bricks as they go over the arches that the stone wall on the viaduct really is short.
I did find it unusually low that as a trackside worker a step back too far and you'd be stumbling over it
Sad that all the stations are just gone, never to return, although there is lots of evidence to prove there were stations.
Thanks for watching Andrew. The only one I couldn't find any trace of was Sidestrand
Thanks for that Ant, another excellent video!
Pleased you enjoyed it Michael and thank you
Another super video Ant Keep them coming.
Thank you very much Adrian 🙂
Yes thank you that was very interesting
Thank you very much Ron