I guess it also makes sense within the plot, we need better armaments so we go from a lowly assassin Ishmael ID to an actual Grade 9 Zwei Fixer, our washed up war criminal outs to a 3rd kindred etc
@@edgufibot8669By that line of thought PM could just take Ruina's linking page system. So you can mix and match combat passives and support passives, which would obliterate game balance
Priest Gregor giving himself 50 bleed stacks with Bloody Mist: The Barber on her way to turbo her own stacks (she will not drop an s2 or 3 for the next 2 turns)
season 1 passives: deal 100% more damage on hit against a person who is alive season 5 passives: One sinner with the highest SP x HP factor gains 2 charge per turn start. Gain 3 offense level up per 5 charge (max 1), inflict 1 seed to self every 5 charge is used. When more than 5 charge is gained at max charge +1 charge potency. Heal SP equal to Charge^-1 gained and lost last turn, if more than 1 SP is gained, heal HP equal to 5% of damage dealt last turn (max 10).
O Wuthering Heights, heed my call to watch this video! But honestly Erlking is a funny unit in my eyes, he is definitely strong and not only is he a strong unit even whilst not playing into Sinking, I think he set a precedent for identities with very in-depth mechanics like Dullahan and Coffin. And set a precedent having two pages worth of text, that too I guess
More likely if they truly did dexide against doing a farmwatch ID lster was because they were fresh off the S.E.A. drama and the character represented an extremely controversial figure in Korea's history.
I remember when Wild Hunt Heathcliff health is at low and he has bleed that 100% gonna kill him. He use his final Lament, Mourn, and Despair to defeat Dulciena and deal 211 damage on her, after that attack he explode. I was like "You did well Heathcliff. I won't forget you for as long as I live."
This was me but for Solemn Yi Sang. I ran a 5-squad for an extra slot, and he di work. Every clash against her was Dominating and he wiped out every other Bloodfiend to get us the easy win. Saved the entire team till it was time for the DPS check. He got one last ‘hurrah’ with an S3 mag dump on her sorry arse before exploding. Then Wild Hunt Heath just proceeded to counter into S4 to finish the job.
I got like 50 bleed with 8 counts, i was like "Hmmmm, yknow what. Counter time" I mashed counter for the next 4 turn and he doesnt die or even lose clash. He survives with 23 hp thanks to fluid sac protection and a clutch fluid during the last turn
Had the EXACT same experience, but against Sancho. Except I put on a bad Heathcliff impression and said "This is the last of my damage! Take it from me!"
@@senpyrothewizard8172 No offence, but how did you lose Heathcliff to Sancho? In the entire dungeon, I thought she was the easiest fight. Lost no one on my team. Though, I did use Fluid Sac a couple of times.
Solemn lament Yi Sang wishes he could approach how busted RingSang is. But yeah, its pretty impressive how far N Sinclair has lasted with just big number and the little fact that negative coins are cracked while clashing.
Been running both of them for a while now and I'm kind of finding the two of them to be on parr. Ring Sang ended up winning over for my meta team because of NFaust lust resonance.
I have both of them lvl 50 (Ring is U3 but Lament is U4) and I will honest to god say Solemn Lament is better. I have had multiple instances of Lament’s S3 doing an upwards of 1000 damage, while I cannot remember the last time Ring’s S2 was reused more than once, because on paper it’s good, on solo it’s good, but it a genuine bleed team? Where Ring Sang should do amazing? There’s not enough negative effects to get the chances up in my experience. And the thing is, you only see Ring Sang’s damage praise, but that doesn’t cover clashes either, in most scenarios clashing with his S2 is clashing with dismember, a basic one coin 16 rolling skill. Lament Sang has a 2 coin 16 roller, but because of how coins work every coin power boost on Lament is doubled in relationship to Ring with their S2s. S1s are out of the question, Ring has a whopping 9, not even reaching 10, while Lament gets to 12 and higher. All in all, Ring sang has a really good S2, but Lament’s S2 is around the same strength, and his S1s and 3s outclass Ring’s in every way. I rest my damn case.
@@onesandzeros1338Retry your comparison. This time, actually Uptie 4 RingSang first before imediately saying Solemn is better when you yourself admit you only have Ring at U3 with Solemn at U4.
I like how blade lineage yi sang has like, less words than a modern skill 3, but is still cracked as hell because they just added two lines. Coin power for every 5 count.
"Man, Project Moon really has been experimenting with IDs as of recent huh? I wonder which one will text creep Wildhunt Heath-" *The suspiciously 3 page shaped Sancho id glimmering on the horizon:*
I believe a good reason why they've swapped to 2 pages is so that the font can also be bigger. i've noticed that it's just generally easier to read the more recent IDs.
Honestly I Just hope they add more upties that don't have exponentially more cost and improve upon some units who have been power crept in major ways bringing them back up with the current standard while also providing small bonuses in consistency to those who are already very strong its the only way I can see them fixing this without rebalancing things and risking an issue.
I think that they are already starting to consider it, given that already for leveling they said that in terms of EXP cost, from levels 45-50 and beyond, it would change very incrementally per level cap increase
Hi, I play the story content in this game with base IDs and E.G.O only. While it can seem like Limbus is starting to scale around the best identities, I can confirm that the game remains defeatable with only the clothes on all your sinners' backs. I am convinced that some poor playtester has to do this as a job, and for that, I feel very bad for them, because I can feel like I'm gonna pop a blood vessel sometimes. And even if it wasn't beatable 100% base for any reason, support units exist. Having stronger identities or options in the game can be an okay thing to balance around as the support system can ensure that you have atleast 1 set of those powerful tools at your disposal. If anyone out there struggles with the game for any reason, please, add some friends on Limbus (even just from in-game) and use their support units. Less effort to grind on your part, and more teambuilding options for you play with. Don't be ashamed.
@@somecrappynameThis. I just beat Canto 6 and I am pretty sure that thing is either bug (because even if I win every clash and don't let him touch my Heathcliff mf still get his buffs) or bad tested. I ended up beating that ahh fight with only Wild Hunt and RingSang, wich was WAY EASIER than a full 6-man comp. Like, wtf PM.
Powercreep isn't honestly all that relevant so long as a game has the option of being clearable without meta units. Arknights is in this exact state where the two most broken units power creep everyone, but they don't change anything because content hasn't scaled as proportionally to the release of new 6 stars as you would be led to believe. Being Silver Gun will still have you clearing 90% of content with 4 stars.
@@bullet3417part of the fun of older IDs tho is seeing what goofy shit is in their kits and how you can stitch a team together to make them work. Sure some of the real stinkers could use a buff, but I don't think players are missing much by not using old Zweiclair or Sloshmael.
@@andrewandriegajo3460 im pretty sure every unit goes into the standard pool you can extract from no? either that or the season 4 3* voucher you can get from rr4
My favorite argument for powercreep in Limbus is, N Corp still keeps up, not nearly as good as when they came out, but damn they can still clear out bloodfiends plenty well, they're not as good as Walpurgisnacht, however those guys are MADE to be powerful
4:12 i am forever cursed to be the unknown creator of the original version of the "something fell out of your pocket: the horse" gif, and every reminder of it feels me with inmense joy i am unable to share cuz there's no way to relay all this to a normal person
Power creep is a given in any gacha game. It what's makes you want to pull for the new ID/EGO either by spending or working in the mines all day. Now that we are going to get 2-3 page ID in the future I don't really mind since most ID usually have there S1 and S2 to build up towards there S3. What I'm worried about is the amount of new status effects I will need to remember to fully optimize my characters. With Bloodfeast and specific effects for Barber Outis and upcoming Priest Gregor I'll need to pay more attention to who I'm going to give resources to and what they do cause at some point I spend more time rereading effects than actual fighting. What I want for Limbus Company is to give us content where units will be benched after they are used which allow us to use other ID rather than brute forcing with the same team. Though this is mainly coming from someone that has played a lot and with every ID and EGO it gives me a reason to run older units so I don't feel bad building them. If we can respec your ID once every weekly reset I would love that. I hope for Hong Lu's Canto we do a split flight where we create two teams of 6 to run through the stage. The idea to run a full party of 12 to the fight is a interesting concept but most strategy is to front line your strongest ID and hope for the weaker one finish the job or vice versa. I do know certain ID benefit from this type of combat Erkling and Devyat Rodion to name a few, but you are really only going to use that for one or two stages in the entire Canto and if you can get to that part of the Canto with usual 6, you really shouldn't have a problem with 12. If hope you don't mind me talking so much, I love this game and will be continue to look forward to its development.
while i do get your concern i kinda revel in it. sure it gets a bit absurd with how many different keywords we get and statuses are no different but therein also lies my fun. more complex ID´s make more interesting choices and having 5 different bleeds is making it a lot more interesting in terms of teambuilding. sure not all of them will have long term impact, but i douibt this will be the last time we get bloodfiends, or the last time we have a reason for unique charge. though i do think it is a great way of balancing out a lot of things without directley touching systems. look at tremor, it was arguably enitrely worthless until reverb became a thing, now you flavor your tremor depending on what you want to do and it is a real status effect without actually having had a base change. It stays simple for new player while becoming infnitely more complex for veterans and even bridign the gap inbetween because you just need to imagine a newish player work on their tremor team only to get everlasting and he goes wild because of how cool it is
@@mandragorius9637 I do see the chaotic fun of all the different type of effects in the game as that's what makes boss fights interesting and its provide story to the ID/EGO itself. Since they updated the UI for displaying the effects there no doubt that PM will continue with it and I don't see it as a problem. I just hope we don't get to the point where I'm reading a wikipedia page before I can click on the clash button. But now we are here, I kind of want to try to stack as much effects on a boss to see if I can break the UI.
Oh wow wait, having to split the team in two would be so fun tho!! Not sure how pm would be able to achieve that, but I think that limitation would add a lot on like team building and stuff
The main issue i find is PM trying to "FIX"their previous lack of thinking or to aepace player skill Example: players coudnt deal with defens epasing turn Solution, make then clashable but not Automatic anymore This brakes Counter being offset Counter are automatic again They give a dodge to EVERY BOSS so you either offset or fuck up Now we got Clashable counter is EVERY BOSS And ONLY A SINGLE NEW GUARD Clashable guard also fuckd with previous "slow tanks" mechanics Solution, make aggro a stat Varelly works and now we have "fuck aggro i clash with woever" Then we have chain battle solginf 2 issues Have the 7-12 extra sinner do something Balance the skill slot mechanic in waves As waves had a problem You expend too manny turn, you get next wave more more slot than enemy You do wave FAST for EX, then you get second wave with enemies having more slots than you Characters like Ishmael Egos where made for this when you pass turns, now is a CRITICAL Issue as you can get treashold easily yb enemies Buttles fights is the best example for this, with bad luck they will one side yous withtheir fastes unit either tresholding your slowest units or at least giving them 10-4 bleed so they dies next turn Fucking BS Chain battless allow them to add enemies until you get 8-12 max slots so next wave can be balance acordingly HOWEVER this may be a. Bug or bad design but Blood fiends can spawn with 2-3 slots in later waves, so killing them too fast can still cause the being Over sloted by the nemy and loss 1 unit because of that PM just goes "looks good, ship it monzo" and then 1 month later has to change half the changes because they cause problem with game design or difficulty. The only ones that may not have had problem has been resonance going from + damage to +offense. (And fixing offense level) As is both a +damage and a +Clash power making underlevel play posible For example, Pure BL can do Vampire Lux super easy even with beig 3-6 levelsunder because of res and meur buff (kim meur is up 3 so his buff is sill half its max potential)
OK, about the new units in here, the problem with them is that they traded status effect for overloading kits and DPS. So for example, saying Red Eye Ryoshu is a Bleed unit is not really correct, because her Bleed is arse compared to KK Ryoshu. RY Ryoshu is a Charge unit that can inflict Bleed so she can have +2 Coin Boost in Mirror Dungeon. The same applies to Heathcliff as well. He traded Sinking application for a burst on S3 (which is RNG due to negative coin), AoE on S2, revive and clashable counter. Now, are they powercreeping the IDs in the game? Sure they are, since PM used them to test for this direction. However, they also require skill to play, or otherwise, you will lose a lot of DPS. This is why people complain about Cinq Salt who stops stacking Rupture half way for more DPS, or Barber Outis who can't bleed anyone, but have +200% damage boost and AoE in S3. You can't play them as normal Rupture or Bleed units. By the way, Zwei Ish is the most powercreep one. While other units suck at their debuff, Zwei Ish can apply Tremor, has solid clash and damage, and is tanky at the same time.
@@hescoming4544 Unironically still better than Zwei Ish, Risky judgement is so cracked it´s not even funny funny. If you double slot both Outis does more reverb dpr due to discard being how it is. And if you don´t double slot Ish she´s akward to use due to defensive stance
saying red eyes ryoshu is NOT a bleed unit is incorrect - she ramps up her chage with enemy bleed which in turn allows her to stack even more bleed potency. you can also play barber outis as a normal bleed unit nothing is really stopping you?
The damaged, the drip, the horse (up to 3) and the homelessness. if Erlking was not a targeted psyop against the 42 Potential man users then my name isn't queen Elizabeth the second.
Also. The one thing why I really love to play Limbus is that, Even if you're using Old Units or New Units, If you don't know the game mechanics, you're going to get your Ass handed to you. You can make any team work till the time you know your stuff. Mash up all the favorite units and it'll still work in some way.
dawn sinclair also is kinda weird when comparing him to what comes after because while his kit might just be as complex as the later ones, actually piloting him compared wild hunt heathcliff or the newest walpurgisnight ids is night and day. hes got a huge reward(woo 500+ damage blazing strike, aoe +1 million burn count!), but the support needed to keep him from going baby mode when you really need him to clash is just SO much higher than.. just hitting the buttons like the others expect out of you? hes an incredibly well designed id and i hope we see more ids that require this level of support to make work because they are just so fun imo(its like potential man 2 tbh :3).
I think the day when limbus getting the most meta/powercreep moment is when pm started adding modifiers that increa ses the chance of getting plus/minus coin rolls or having an ID that increases their capped sp to 48 or 49 or something like that.
In the end as long as kits don't overlap too much with sin spread, damage type, and defense skills, they can make all sorts of wild wacky units. I've also noticed that PM has basically embraced block and counter skills to be a sort of drawback for power budgeting; allowing for crazier main kits with the drawback that they don't get the godsend defense option EVADE.
Oh JOY! There’s my little Potential Man Glazer. To think I didn’t need to rely on those bumbling Project Moontoids… i’lltakethosethankyou. Now, there’s just one last problem to deal with.
8:02 Just to put this into perspective... The Ring Pointillist Student Yi Sang is easily the best non-Talisclair unit in Rupture, despite being a Bleed unit. (There are several reasons for this, such as him having a lot of Coins, Dimension Shredder to make him Count neutral most of the time if he doesn't roll Count application on his moves, having a Gloom S1 that synergizes with AEDD Gregor, and finally, he has incredible synergy with Talisclair and basically every Gregor E.G.O + Rosespanner Gregor because the debuffs they inflict are counted towards Sanguine Pointillism's recycle chances similar to how Nails or Sewing Target would.) And the very high controllable damage from Rupture plus the really low price of having to use Dimension Shredder can arguably be as practical as running ringsang on Bleed and activating all of his conditionals. Yes, he is weaker in the early game unless you get lucky, but guess what? Ringsang is literally the best Identity in the game that isn't Wild Hunt at 10 Coffin.
The reason Lobotomy Ryoshu is not so much her S4, but moreso the fact that she gains a crazy amount of % damage by having the stacks, and deals busted base damage too. With one of the strongest base hitting S2's in the game and a decent S1, it's no surprise she stands next to Ring Sang in terms of pure damage.
The fanservice man himself not only is baddass asf, he's also very, very strong and can fit into any team, i just kind of think he's... A little *too* strong in chain battles, but oh well, it IS a game that leans more towards being casual, so it's whatever, although i also, never saw anyone use sunshower after wild hunt dropped, which is kinda sad, even more considering the stuff sunshower heath says lol.
The first ever draw I did, I got wild hunt, and as such I am being held at gunpoint to watch every wild hunt related video :sob: Good video tho! absolutely epic
while power creep is a problem, it’s also important for the company to still make money- it’s more obvious in card games like mtg, but if no new cards (units) are better than old ones, then many people will not continue to buy them, So far i’d say PM has done a great job balancing this issue, and i think it helps how much the community loves a challenge as fighting the power creep can still feel enjoyable to the vast majority of players
...And then Canto VII Part 3 Dropped, and Yearning Mircilla Don came into existence. ...Seriously, what the hell was Kim smoking when they gave her 4 Unbreakable Coins with a massive attack weight on an AWAKENED EGO!?!
I mean, is it being unbreakable really that mind blowing? Unbreakable coins only matter if you lose a clash, and their power is set to 1 upon clash lose. So, of course, it's great that it's guaranteed to hit, but it has a max roll of 15 (23 if opponent has 20(!) bleed and +5 clash power for 500 bloodfeast consumed by Don (a.k.a. you need 500 bleed damage already dealt + a Don bloodfiend ID)), which isn't too much. And if she loses the clash where her unbreakable coins should matter, on the attack she rolls 3-7. Is it really that impressive?
To be fair, every “face of the season” ego is very good at are minimum Fourth Match Flame is a good burn EGO and has funny power stacking capabilties Sunshower was buffed from HE to WAW due to how busted it was Blind Obsession is a really good aoe ego with SP regen Binds gave extra attack weight and had really good SP effect
As someone who had to quit FEH after nearly 7 years of playing, I can absolutely understand the fear of feature creep. That said, with how this season has gone, my hope is that we're hitting a sort of plateau for how much an idea can have in their kit. I'm personally okay with the two page IDs, so long as they actually make good use of that space in fun or interesting ways (unlike the 50 ways a FEH weapon can give you spectrum 4, cough cough).
5:20 Screw Philip! I’m currently stuck trying to beat him because he ran away during the Walter fight and came back with an entire Ego while my librarians are at like 10% hp while he’s at full hp and does passive burn damage, if this keeps going on imma have to be forced to actually read the mechanics 😭 (I still love him though)
The way I see Limbus Balancing works is the missed opportunities cost which i think is a really good solution! Like yeah you can have THE KING in your full charge team and he will do fine but he wont reach his peaks like he would in a sinking team or how your charge team wont reach its peak without Crack Heaths crazy good passive. I feel Limbus is gonna be alright honestly and be it 2 or 3 pages it dosent matter.....cause PM fans arent gonna read it anyways :3 btw glad your surgery went well! Hope you are taking care of yourself and its good to have you back ^^
You know im in limbus comp for 14 days, trying to get ring yi sang but get wild hunt instead. Idk how to play the game that why im here. Lookin forward for Arknight collab.
Tbh the change to how Ringsang kit works with ego gifts imo was entirely justified and normal change that doesnt effect him that much. I myself thought the fact he was applying all ego gift effects was stupid cause I'm pretty sure that wasn't even intended.
I feel its kinda remiss to not mention Grip Sinclair here, a lot of the discussion the community had following Ringsang was just echoing discussions we had following Grip Sinclair's release. We just didn't have Kim Ji-Hoon himself weighing in at that time.
Ring Sang and WH Heathcliff were the harbingers of the new strongest IDs as well as the show of the future IDs to come. To me, although I do not have Kali-Ryoshu, I can say that these are two of the strongest ID combinations: Wild Hunt + Solemn Lament and N Faust + Ring Sang. Ring Sang and N Faust is basically Ring Sang on steroids because of the guaranteed S2 reuse when you combine it with Faust’s S2. With Hex Nail, all of Ring Sang’s skills become nukes. I don’t have to explain Solemn Lament + Wild Hunt. It is basically a powerful Sinking melt setup.
Can't believe you only have 7k subs! Watched the Potential man video as well as this one under the impression that you had possibly several hundred thousand, Just subscribed though :D
Back when Kimsault dropped, I expressed a bit of worry towards a friend of mine, that I was scared everything after Kimsault has to keep up with his strength The one thing that hindered him becoming broken was that he was a poise-team heavy unit (even then he was goated) But a generalist like Wildhunt or Red Eyes-shu showed me the fear was kinda justified, because they are so good without needing any support Even Lament-sang strictly speaking doesnt need a sinking team to perform incredibly I just hope they introduce Modules like in Arknights/ ID-specific UT5 for older units, so they dont catch dust
@@bullet3417 Ofcourse they are getting outclassed soon after, but the important part is to bring them onpar with the 2page IDs (as this video describes them) Doesnt matter if 3page IDs will release soon after this hypothetical change, but keeping them at rock bottom is worse
@@goodsirsepsis8152 it's just that uptie 5 being just a buff to ID's is not a good thing, when like the whole purpose of you uptying them is to make them just on similar strength with other ID's whie also requiring a huge farm. And the fact that after some time they will need a buff again so pm will need to make up6 or be the best company and just buff them in patches
@@bullet3417 yea I agree on that sentiment, but if it's not through Uptie, then it either has to be through another new mechanic or they buff them in Patchnotes But I'm pretty sure they wont do the latter either way, because that would infringe on the "product value" of the IDs (which was the reason they didn't nerf Ringsang so much)
I really like the direction of limbus right now cuz I feel like PM finally got all status in a fairly in the position they wanted(and I guess they hate burn) I think people are just as always thinking that PM will screw things up because of their history with these things, we really should just try to feel ids now and also try to come with different team comps, after all Sinking broke of the mold of having just 1 team in mind with few changes, anyway great video, exited to see what you do next!
I love that at the start of the season i said: "man, this season i will use the full wuthering heights team, Just for the funnies". That being said, my bleed team is lvl 50 and i can say that after using barber outis, i am bloodfeast-pilled and await with 200 boxes, 200 tread and enough xp tickets to lvl up greg to 50, and i shall cope for princess rodya (do not lose hope,bois,WE SHALL GET A GOOD RODYA BLEED ID)
Well I feel like I've been living off of the meta now! I only started playing during the Murder on the Warp train event. And just after that is when the mentioned Walpurgisnacht happened. And boy did I spend some money there. But I got Red eyes Ryoshu, Solemn Lament Yi Sang, and even Wild Hunt Heathcliff! They have all carried me through the whole story. Just got caught up to the new canto as it launched.
Honestly throughout all my years of gacha nothing can compare to the hype leading up to Wild Hunt Heathcliff And it's one of the only times a hyped character turned out to be really fucking broken too is awesome I slot him into every team I bring him to sinking I bring him to bleed I bring him to Railway I bring him to Roblox I FUCKING LOVE THE WILD HUNT!!!!!
As someone who so statuspilled that any keywordless 000 id immediately turns into 00: Butterfly Yi Sang is not as op as he seems. After dozens (or how many weeks have passed since his release since i run md daily) md runs with sinking, i can say for certain: Butterfly vs Bush is the most equal of all exchanges, with spicebush being better in md. The main determining factor is who are you gonna fight: waves of enemies or a singular target. For example, butterfly allowed me to 40 turn railway, while spicebush can quite reliably deal 700 dmg turn 4, or 1,5 more for every turn above that. Despite being the first id with an aoe, in present time it's probably the least important part of his kit, it actually more of a detriment, since it steals wild heath's kills and steals t count from s3
Ring Sang is busted wow Elrking is has a 4th skill wow Phillip has 2 forms wow A month later, Manager Don comes out and just steals all of these mechanics for herself, thus becoming the new busted unit with 2 forms and 8 skills.
wildcliff had the first essay of stuff. then came the bloodfiends. then came doncho. doncho took wildcliff and said "hey so you know how you've got a clashable counter? im gonna take that, and then im also gonna get four extra skills for a total of 8 skills. and i'm also gonna be able to nuke better than you. oh hey by the way im gonna be able to roll over 50 in a clash during mirror dungeon, how you feelin about that?"
Don't really agree with the red eyes/wryoshu/chef ryoshu comparisons. Chef ryoshu isn't used in bleed teams, not even before red eyes. She just inflicts a pitiful amount of it, just enough to qualify for gifts. W ryoshu and red eyes are both charge yes but you don't use them *because* they are charge, you use them because they are a dps monster. Red eyes and w corp have 2 different niches by the simple fact that one is slash based and the other is blunt based, they will be useful depending on enemy weaknesses. Chef rypshu got powercrept back when ryoshu released just because she's only a dps unit. Her healing, her bleed, her bind, it doesn't matter, people used her because she dealt good damage and rolled pretty high. Then w ryoshu came who is slash based just like chef ryoshu (chef has pierce skill 2 but that's actually for her detriment because it's much better to be mono damage type) and rolled even higher than her and dealt more damage
And about solemn yi sang being on par with ring... Just no. Solemn sang is no setup and really good skill 3 damage but his skill 1 and 2 are average at best. 1/6th of the kit doesn't justify using him over ring sang as a generalist when his overall kit is simply better and also requires little to no setup. They both share damage type and 2/3 sins so not even that saves him for having some niche as a generalist over ring. He is good as a generalist but definitely not better than ring or even close to equal and his real niche is making sinking deal more damage
I do think that new limbus kit tend to be unnecessarily wordy. Like rodion not applying rupture could be made as a passive rather than span like 9 total lines throughout 3 skills. Sure, then it could technically apply to the counter but is it really worth it to "nerf" the counter that's barely used at the cost of having 9 extra lines? Her not consuming rupture on skill 1 and 2 could just read if (passive) is active don't consume rupture and for skill 3 it would be if (passive) is active reuse last coin and that'd be a more compressed kit that does basically the same. This can also be applied to many other new units that are way too wordy for no reason and you could reduce the word amount a bit even if it means lightly changing the kit a tiny amount for the sake of compression
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Honestly, Dawn Clair being a disappointment at first only to bloom after is on character for Philip lol
hes still is a disappointment he didnt run away when hp reaches 0
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i personally think powercreep in limbus aint a massive problem since 90% of the units are shardable unlike other gacha games which require gambling
the only thing that's getting powercreeped is text and speed ranges tbh, which is kinda funny
@@ArcBreadkjh carrying the gacha gaming community's literacy rate on his back rn
@@thechair6519 levelling sinners? Nah. We levelling IQ IN THIS 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
I guess it also makes sense within the plot, we need better armaments so we go from a lowly assassin Ishmael ID to an actual Grade 9 Zwei Fixer, our washed up war criminal outs to a 3rd kindred etc
@@edgufibot8669By that line of thought PM could just take Ruina's linking page system.
So you can mix and match combat passives and support passives, which would obliterate game balance
I like how they experimenting with more unique status archetypes
Self-heal + bloodfeast gang rise up
correct it's the only way I can get through that stupid parasol fight
Priest Gregor giving himself 50 bleed stacks with Bloody Mist:
The Barber on her way to turbo her own stacks (she will not drop an s2 or 3 for the next 2 turns)
"How can one have two horses?" Is one of the phrases of all time.
Immortan Joe in Wuthering Heights
Why not 4 four horses? that truly peak
@@PrincessofParadeCynulcinea Why not DOUBLE IT? Make it 6 already, heheheha!
@@Wild-HuntHeathcliffDude 4 x 2 is 8, you literally gone to school, WAIT 8 HORSES OpO
How hungry?
season 1 passives: deal 100% more damage on hit against a person who is alive
season 5 passives: One sinner with the highest SP x HP factor gains 2 charge per turn start. Gain 3 offense level up per 5 charge (max 1), inflict 1 seed to self every 5 charge is used. When more than 5 charge is gained at max charge +1 charge potency. Heal SP equal to Charge^-1 gained and lost last turn, if more than 1 SP is gained, heal HP equal to 5% of damage dealt last turn (max 10).
This is so true
Actual season 5 passive with all the reading removed : use s3 go brrrrrrrrr
@@byyuwryy7905 funni how season 1 had the most straight forward support passives like 10% dmg for dmg type or take 10% less dmg from that dmg type
this is a really good passive if the character in question uses charge and occasionally depletes SP to gain buffs
@ Red Mist Ryoshu :
O Wuthering Heights, heed my call to watch this video!
But honestly Erlking is a funny unit in my eyes, he is definitely strong and not only is he a strong unit even whilst not playing into Sinking, I think he set a precedent for identities with very in-depth mechanics like Dullahan and Coffin.
And set a precedent having two pages worth of text, that too I guess
wtf hi welvader I wasn't expecting to see you here
I was merely called by The Wild Hunt, and also the fact that your videos are pretty peak :)
@@Welvader why do i see you everywhere and why are you funny sometimes
Don't let this distract you, that bushsang is the reason why farmwatch was never created.
More likely if they truly did dexide against doing a farmwatch ID lster was because they were fresh off the S.E.A. drama and the character represented an extremely controversial figure in Korea's history.
@@Camazotzerof course the fault lies with ishmael
I still believe it was Cathy's fault we never got Farmwatch (she's shown wearing Dongrang's uniform in the flashback/Erlking summon animation).
Farmwatch Meursault.
I remember when Wild Hunt Heathcliff health is at low and he has bleed that 100% gonna kill him. He use his final Lament, Mourn, and Despair to defeat Dulciena and deal 211 damage on her, after that attack he explode.
I was like "You did well Heathcliff. I won't forget you for as long as I live."
This was me but for Solemn Yi Sang. I ran a 5-squad for an extra slot, and he di work. Every clash against her was Dominating and he wiped out every other Bloodfiend to get us the easy win. Saved the entire team till it was time for the DPS check. He got one last ‘hurrah’ with an S3 mag dump on her sorry arse before exploding. Then Wild Hunt Heath just proceeded to counter into S4 to finish the job.
I got like 50 bleed with 8 counts, i was like "Hmmmm, yknow what. Counter time"
I mashed counter for the next 4 turn and he doesnt die or even lose clash. He survives with 23 hp thanks to fluid sac protection and a clutch fluid during the last turn
"so this means..."
"yeah."
"Heathcliff won"
*cuts to heathcliff death sprite*
Had the EXACT same experience, but against Sancho. Except I put on a bad Heathcliff impression and said "This is the last of my damage! Take it from me!"
@@senpyrothewizard8172 No offence, but how did you lose Heathcliff to Sancho? In the entire dungeon, I thought she was the easiest fight. Lost no one on my team. Though, I did use Fluid Sac a couple of times.
Solemn lament Yi Sang wishes he could approach how busted RingSang is. But yeah, its pretty impressive how far N Sinclair has lasted with just big number and the little fact that negative coins are cracked while clashing.
Been running both of them for a while now and I'm kind of finding the two of them to be on parr. Ring Sang ended up winning over for my meta team because of NFaust lust resonance.
I have both of them lvl 50 (Ring is U3 but Lament is U4) and I will honest to god say Solemn Lament is better. I have had multiple instances of Lament’s S3 doing an upwards of 1000 damage, while I cannot remember the last time Ring’s S2 was reused more than once, because on paper it’s good, on solo it’s good, but it a genuine bleed team? Where Ring Sang should do amazing? There’s not enough negative effects to get the chances up in my experience. And the thing is, you only see Ring Sang’s damage praise, but that doesn’t cover clashes either, in most scenarios clashing with his S2 is clashing with dismember, a basic one coin 16 rolling skill. Lament Sang has a 2 coin 16 roller, but because of how coins work every coin power boost on Lament is doubled in relationship to Ring with their S2s. S1s are out of the question, Ring has a whopping 9, not even reaching 10, while Lament gets to 12 and higher. All in all, Ring sang has a really good S2, but Lament’s S2 is around the same strength, and his S1s and 3s outclass Ring’s in every way. I rest my damn case.
@@onesandzeros1338Retry your comparison. This time, actually Uptie 4 RingSang first before imediately saying Solemn is better when you yourself admit you only have Ring at U3 with Solemn at U4.
@@onesandzeros1338you have to ut4 ringsang for his s2 to become truly cracked
@@onesandzeros1338 Youre so stupid ❤❤🥰
Huntcliff. I call him Huntcliff.
Edit: Also, real talk. BUFFS TO OLDER IDS WHEN PMOON????
would be nice
i swear to christ, if they add in threadspin 5 they better fucking double threat droprates
@@mandragorius9637 they did mention exp and threads being farmable in md possibly in the near future
A few days ago, I noticed a change to Dead Rabbits Merusault, making him more Rupture focused, inflicting more count.
nah he's peakcliff
I like how blade lineage yi sang has like, less words than a modern skill 3, but is still cracked as hell because they just added two lines. Coin power for every 5 count.
Note: At UT4 and only up to +3 at 15 poise count.
At UT4 he clash for like 23 on first skill on MD, shit insane
@@aeugh8998 with BL meursault i saw him doing these numbers OUTSIDE MD...
He's just insanely broken, for such a simple id...
"Man, Project Moon really has been experimenting with IDs as of recent huh? I wonder which one will text creep Wildhunt Heath-"
*The suspiciously 3 page shaped Sancho id glimmering on the horizon:*
Wait fo Walpurgisnacht, Yujin ID will surely have 3 pages
@@ГлебВинокуров-с8ыboundary of death sets your sanity to -25 (that you can gain back by meeting conditionals) before a clash with 40 coin power
@ГлебВинокуров-с8ы 4. It will have 4 pages.
@@Johnheartbreakingmultilate but criti-er
So uhh, about that... Yeah she's gonna have like 7 different skills
PM really wanted to showcase Wild hunt Heath's revive mechanic so much that they made the next canto almost require it
XICHUN STOP STEALING MY COFFINS
You could just clash against enemy's targeting her...
Sadly, they fixed Xichun being an applicable target for the Wild Hunt...
@@oatmeal3919 WHAT NOOOO, THAT WAS SO FUNNY THO
Canto 7 is the first time I've seen Erlking's revive proc.
And the second. And the third. And the fourth. And the -
Lantern Don solo all canto 7 by the way
My meta strategy consists of "actually reading" which is op as hell
I believe a good reason why they've swapped to 2 pages is so that the font can also be bigger. i've noticed that it's just generally easier to read the more recent IDs.
0:25 They know it's Ayin...
my beloved
they don’t it’s ayin
A, my beloved...
I think Meta is just "Play what you like."
Yeah, though some IDs are certainly a good bit stronger on their own than others. Hard to deny that.
@@aegisScale True.
Honestly I Just hope they add more upties that don't have exponentially more cost and improve upon some units who have been power crept in major ways bringing them back up with the current standard while also providing small bonuses in consistency to those who are already very strong its the only way I can see them fixing this without rebalancing things and risking an issue.
I think that they are already starting to consider it, given that already for leveling they said that in terms of EXP cost, from levels 45-50 and beyond, it would change very incrementally per level cap increase
I hope they do to meta units with UT5 what they did to Rcliff on UT4
@@Reynnan123 Lament Yi Sang UT5:
Gain 1 extra ammo on kill...
???
Uhh, S1 gets 4 extra Clash Power when on your last ammo.
Hi, I play the story content in this game with base IDs and E.G.O only. While it can seem like Limbus is starting to scale around the best identities, I can confirm that the game remains defeatable with only the clothes on all your sinners' backs. I am convinced that some poor playtester has to do this as a job, and for that, I feel very bad for them, because I can feel like I'm gonna pop a blood vessel sometimes.
And even if it wasn't beatable 100% base for any reason, support units exist. Having stronger identities or options in the game can be an okay thing to balance around as the support system can ensure that you have atleast 1 set of those powerful tools at your disposal. If anyone out there struggles with the game for any reason, please, add some friends on Limbus (even just from in-game) and use their support units. Less effort to grind on your part, and more teambuilding options for you play with. Don't be ashamed.
My problem with the support system is just how much of a cheese it feels like.
Though you have to admit they didn't test 6-34 or wild hunt first encounter properly-
@@somecrappynameThis. I just beat Canto 6 and I am pretty sure that thing is either bug (because even if I win every clash and don't let him touch my Heathcliff mf still get his buffs) or bad tested. I ended up beating that ahh fight with only Wild Hunt and RingSang, wich was WAY EASIER than a full 6-man comp.
Like, wtf PM.
@@umi4356U need to offset his shield it gives 1 damage up on use...
I was struggling till i relaized too.
Powercreep isn't honestly all that relevant so long as a game has the option of being clearable without meta units. Arknights is in this exact state where the two most broken units power creep everyone, but they don't change anything because content hasn't scaled as proportionally to the release of new 6 stars as you would be led to believe. Being Silver Gun will still have you clearing 90% of content with 4 stars.
But old ID's getting buffs will make them interesting to play wich doesn't seem like something bad at all
@@bullet3417part of the fun of older IDs tho is seeing what goofy shit is in their kits and how you can stitch a team together to make them work. Sure some of the real stinkers could use a buff, but I don't think players are missing much by not using old Zweiclair or Sloshmael.
Video on wild hunt the day after I get wild hunt is amazing timing
wait how tf did you get wildhunt heathcliff after the season change?
@@andrewandriegajo3460 im pretty sure every unit goes into the standard pool you can extract from no? either that or the season 4 3* voucher you can get from rr4
You can get every unit that aint walpurgis if you gamba enough
@@andrewandriegajo3460You can still get him from banners, my brother started playing this season and his third 000 was wild hunt 😭
@@andrewandriegajo3460 You can't shard for them BUT you can still pull for them in the gacha, this isn't the case for Event IDs tho
My favorite argument for powercreep in Limbus is, N Corp still keeps up, not nearly as good as when they came out, but damn they can still clear out bloodfiends plenty well, they're not as good as Walpurgisnacht, however those guys are MADE to be powerful
4:12 i am forever cursed to be the unknown creator of the original version of the "something fell out of your pocket: the horse" gif, and every reminder of it feels me with inmense joy i am unable to share cuz there's no way to relay all this to a normal person
The erlking heathcliff has summoned me to watch this peak video
Good job, monsdoz2087, the hunt will remember you.
that one time Jihoon was playing the game on stream (me not remember when on why) and ring sang dealt 40 limbillion damage and he was just... angry.
Power creep is a given in any gacha game. It what's makes you want to pull for the new ID/EGO either by spending or working in the mines all day. Now that we are going to get 2-3 page ID in the future I don't really mind since most ID usually have there S1 and S2 to build up towards there S3. What I'm worried about is the amount of new status effects I will need to remember to fully optimize my characters. With Bloodfeast and specific effects for Barber Outis and upcoming Priest Gregor I'll need to pay more attention to who I'm going to give resources to and what they do cause at some point I spend more time rereading effects than actual fighting. What I want for Limbus Company is to give us content where units will be benched after they are used which allow us to use other ID rather than brute forcing with the same team. Though this is mainly coming from someone that has played a lot and with every ID and EGO it gives me a reason to run older units so I don't feel bad building them. If we can respec your ID once every weekly reset I would love that. I hope for Hong Lu's Canto we do a split flight where we create two teams of 6 to run through the stage. The idea to run a full party of 12 to the fight is a interesting concept but most strategy is to front line your strongest ID and hope for the weaker one finish the job or vice versa. I do know certain ID benefit from this type of combat Erkling and Devyat Rodion to name a few, but you are really only going to use that for one or two stages in the entire Canto and if you can get to that part of the Canto with usual 6, you really shouldn't have a problem with 12. If hope you don't mind me talking so much, I love this game and will be continue to look forward to its development.
while i do get your concern i kinda revel in it. sure it gets a bit absurd with how many different keywords we get and statuses are no different but therein also lies my fun.
more complex ID´s make more interesting choices and having 5 different bleeds is making it a lot more interesting in terms of teambuilding. sure not all of them will have long term impact, but i douibt this will be the last time we get bloodfiends, or the last time we have a reason for unique charge. though i do think it is a great way of balancing out a lot of things without directley touching systems. look at tremor, it was arguably enitrely worthless until reverb became a thing, now you flavor your tremor depending on what you want to do and it is a real status effect without actually having had a base change. It stays simple for new player while becoming infnitely more complex for veterans and even bridign the gap inbetween because you just need to imagine a newish player work on their tremor team only to get everlasting and he goes wild because of how cool it is
@@mandragorius9637 I do see the chaotic fun of all the different type of effects in the game as that's what makes boss fights interesting and its provide story to the ID/EGO itself. Since they updated the UI for displaying the effects there no doubt that PM will continue with it and I don't see it as a problem. I just hope we don't get to the point where I'm reading a wikipedia page before I can click on the clash button. But now we are here, I kind of want to try to stack as much effects on a boss to see if I can break the UI.
Oh wow wait, having to split the team in two would be so fun tho!! Not sure how pm would be able to achieve that, but I think that limitation would add a lot on like team building and stuff
The main issue i find is PM trying to "FIX"their previous lack of thinking or to aepace player skill
Example: players coudnt deal with defens epasing turn
Solution, make then clashable but not Automatic anymore
This brakes Counter being offset
Counter are automatic again
They give a dodge to EVERY BOSS so you either offset or fuck up
Now we got Clashable counter is EVERY BOSS
And ONLY A SINGLE NEW GUARD
Clashable guard also fuckd with previous "slow tanks" mechanics
Solution, make aggro a stat
Varelly works and now we have "fuck aggro i clash with woever"
Then we have chain battle solginf 2 issues
Have the 7-12 extra sinner do something
Balance the skill slot mechanic in waves
As waves had a problem
You expend too manny turn, you get next wave more more slot than enemy
You do wave FAST for EX, then you get second wave with enemies having more slots than you
Characters like Ishmael Egos where made for this when you pass turns, now is a CRITICAL Issue as you can get treashold easily yb enemies
Buttles fights is the best example for this, with bad luck they will one side yous withtheir fastes unit either tresholding your slowest units or at least giving them 10-4 bleed so they dies next turn
Fucking BS
Chain battless allow them to add enemies until you get 8-12 max slots so next wave can be balance acordingly
HOWEVER this may be a. Bug or bad design but Blood fiends can spawn with 2-3 slots in later waves, so killing them too fast can still cause the being Over sloted by the nemy and loss 1 unit because of that
PM just goes "looks good, ship it monzo" and then 1 month later has to change half the changes because they cause problem with game design or difficulty.
The only ones that may not have had problem has been resonance going from + damage to +offense. (And fixing offense level) As is both a +damage and a +Clash power making underlevel play posible
For example, Pure BL can do Vampire Lux super easy even with beig 3-6 levelsunder because of res and meur buff (kim meur is up 3 so his buff is sill half its max potential)
OK, about the new units in here, the problem with them is that they traded status effect for overloading kits and DPS.
So for example, saying Red Eye Ryoshu is a Bleed unit is not really correct, because her Bleed is arse compared to KK Ryoshu. RY Ryoshu is a Charge unit that can inflict Bleed so she can have +2 Coin Boost in Mirror Dungeon.
The same applies to Heathcliff as well. He traded Sinking application for a burst on S3 (which is RNG due to negative coin), AoE on S2, revive and clashable counter.
Now, are they powercreeping the IDs in the game? Sure they are, since PM used them to test for this direction. However, they also require skill to play, or otherwise, you will lose a lot of DPS. This is why people complain about Cinq Salt who stops stacking Rupture half way for more DPS, or Barber Outis who can't bleed anyone, but have +200% damage boost and AoE in S3. You can't play them as normal Rupture or Bleed units.
By the way, Zwei Ish is the most powercreep one. While other units suck at their debuff, Zwei Ish can apply Tremor, has solid clash and damage, and is tanky at the same time.
Bruh even Molar Outis getting powercreeped
Press winrate
@@hescoming4544 Unironically still better than Zwei Ish, Risky judgement is so cracked it´s not even funny funny. If you double slot both Outis does more reverb dpr due to discard being how it is. And if you don´t double slot Ish she´s akward to use due to defensive stance
saying red eyes ryoshu is NOT a bleed unit is incorrect - she ramps up her chage with enemy bleed which in turn allows her to stack even more bleed potency.
you can also play barber outis as a normal bleed unit nothing is really stopping you?
Should I level up my zwei ish?
The damaged, the drip, the horse (up to 3) and the homelessness. if Erlking was not a targeted psyop against the 42 Potential man users then my name isn't queen Elizabeth the second.
one thing is certain and will stay the same, PM wants us the READ!
wishing you speedy recovery from non serious surgery!
1:31
It’s not scuffed!!
*IT’S THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AND AMAZING POWER POINT PRESENTATION!!*
GLORY TO KIM JI HOON
Also. The one thing why I really love to play Limbus is that, Even if you're using Old Units or New Units, If you don't know the game mechanics, you're going to get your Ass handed to you. You can make any team work till the time you know your stuff. Mash up all the favorite units and it'll still work in some way.
dawn sinclair also is kinda weird when comparing him to what comes after because while his kit might just be as complex as the later ones, actually piloting him compared wild hunt heathcliff or the newest walpurgisnight ids is night and day. hes got a huge reward(woo 500+ damage blazing strike, aoe +1 million burn count!), but the support needed to keep him from going baby mode when you really need him to clash is just SO much higher than.. just hitting the buttons like the others expect out of you? hes an incredibly well designed id and i hope we see more ids that require this level of support to make work because they are just so fun imo(its like potential man 2 tbh :3).
I think the day when limbus getting the most meta/powercreep moment is when pm started adding modifiers that increa ses the chance of getting plus/minus coin rolls or having an ID that increases their capped sp to 48 or 49 or something like that.
In the end as long as kits don't overlap too much with sin spread, damage type, and defense skills, they can make all sorts of wild wacky units. I've also noticed that PM has basically embraced block and counter skills to be a sort of drawback for power budgeting; allowing for crazier main kits with the drawback that they don't get the godsend defense option EVADE.
when people say they need to buff older IDs they can't be referring to Liu Gregor, because Liu Gregor transcends meta and game mechanics
Oh JOY! There’s my little Potential Man Glazer. To think I didn’t need to rely on those bumbling Project Moontoids… i’lltakethosethankyou.
Now, there’s just one last problem to deal with.
God bless honsecliff
First unit I sharded and carried me so well since I only started a little bit before his release
I know I’ve probably already commented on this video but I giggle every time I see the thumbnail pop up on my feed
The greatest powerpoint presentation to have ever graced the gaming industry
me and my friend spent a solid 10 minutes laughing over that thumbnail thank you so much
8:02
Just to put this into perspective... The Ring Pointillist Student Yi Sang is easily the best non-Talisclair unit in Rupture, despite being a Bleed unit. (There are several reasons for this, such as him having a lot of Coins, Dimension Shredder to make him Count neutral most of the time if he doesn't roll Count application on his moves, having a Gloom S1 that synergizes with AEDD Gregor, and finally, he has incredible synergy with Talisclair and basically every Gregor E.G.O + Rosespanner Gregor because the debuffs they inflict are counted towards Sanguine Pointillism's recycle chances similar to how Nails or Sewing Target would.)
And the very high controllable damage from Rupture plus the really low price of having to use Dimension Shredder can arguably be as practical as running ringsang on Bleed and activating all of his conditionals. Yes, he is weaker in the early game unless you get lucky, but guess what? Ringsang is literally the best Identity in the game that isn't Wild Hunt at 10 Coffin.
i feel very called out when she basically summed up how i played him lmaoooo
Watching this video after the release of manager Don and laughing my ass off
The thumbnail is truly inspired
The reason Lobotomy Ryoshu is not so much her S4, but moreso the fact that she gains a crazy amount of % damage by having the stacks, and deals busted base damage too. With one of the strongest base hitting S2's in the game and a decent S1, it's no surprise she stands next to Ring Sang in terms of pure damage.
The fanservice man himself not only is baddass asf, he's also very, very strong and can fit into any team, i just kind of think he's... A little *too* strong in chain battles, but oh well, it IS a game that leans more towards being casual, so it's whatever, although i also, never saw anyone use sunshower after wild hunt dropped, which is kinda sad, even more considering the stuff sunshower heath says lol.
The first ever draw I did, I got wild hunt, and as such I am being held at gunpoint to watch every wild hunt related video :sob:
Good video tho! absolutely epic
while power creep is a problem, it’s also important for the company to still make money- it’s more obvious in card games like mtg, but if no new cards (units) are better than old ones, then many people will not continue to buy them, So far i’d say PM has done a great job balancing this issue, and i think it helps how much the community loves a challenge as fighting the power creep can still feel enjoyable to the vast majority of players
The Lament, Mourn, and Despair in question:
everytime I start limbus for my dailies I think about this video's thumbnail
...And then Canto VII Part 3 Dropped, and Yearning Mircilla Don came into existence.
...Seriously, what the hell was Kim smoking when they gave her 4 Unbreakable Coins with a massive attack weight on an AWAKENED EGO!?!
Smoking that lunacy bouqet.
I mean, is it being unbreakable really that mind blowing? Unbreakable coins only matter if you lose a clash, and their power is set to 1 upon clash lose.
So, of course, it's great that it's guaranteed to hit, but it has a max roll of 15 (23 if opponent has 20(!) bleed and +5 clash power for 500 bloodfeast consumed by Don (a.k.a. you need 500 bleed damage already dealt + a Don bloodfiend ID)), which isn't too much. And if she loses the clash where her unbreakable coins should matter, on the attack she rolls 3-7. Is it really that impressive?
To be fair, every “face of the season” ego is very good at are minimum
Fourth Match Flame is a good burn EGO and has funny power stacking capabilties
Sunshower was buffed from HE to WAW due to how busted it was
Blind Obsession is a really good aoe ego with SP regen
Binds gave extra attack weight and had really good SP effect
She’s just copying her father
@@AlexDanr"Father said it's *_MY_* turn with the unbreakable coins!"
yeah so my dullahan marches towards death and
yeah...so...
iunno
prepare for your execution maybe?
As someone who had to quit FEH after nearly 7 years of playing, I can absolutely understand the fear of feature creep. That said, with how this season has gone, my hope is that we're hitting a sort of plateau for how much an idea can have in their kit. I'm personally okay with the two page IDs, so long as they actually make good use of that space in fun or interesting ways (unlike the 50 ways a FEH weapon can give you spectrum 4, cough cough).
Can't wait to see your vid on Manager of La Manchaland.
5:20 Screw Philip! I’m currently stuck trying to beat him because he ran away during the Walter fight and came back with an entire Ego while my librarians are at like 10% hp while he’s at full hp and does passive burn damage, if this keeps going on imma have to be forced to actually read the mechanics 😭 (I still love him though)
And then manager came by and broke even this
Live 56 rolling S3 reaction.
i can see it... efflorscene yi sang + fell bullet yi sang + wild hunt heathcliff revive
13:11 certified Yi Sang moment
I clicked open this video after finishing Limbo in reverse and when the music kicked in my dumbass thought I still had it open 😭
I wonder how much of the video's production time is spent looking for these memes that are both funny and fit the subject matter
The way I see Limbus Balancing works is the missed opportunities cost which i think is a really good solution! Like yeah you can have THE KING in your full charge team and he will do fine but he wont reach his peaks like he would in a sinking team or how your charge team wont reach its peak without Crack Heaths crazy good passive. I feel Limbus is gonna be alright honestly and be it 2 or 3 pages it dosent matter.....cause PM fans arent gonna read it anyways :3 btw glad your surgery went well! Hope you are taking care of yourself and its good to have you back ^^
You know im in limbus comp for 14 days, trying to get ring yi sang but get wild hunt instead. Idk how to play the game that why im here. Lookin forward for Arknight collab.
Tbh the change to how Ringsang kit works with ego gifts imo was entirely justified and normal change that doesnt effect him that much. I myself thought the fact he was applying all ego gift effects was stupid cause I'm pretty sure that wasn't even intended.
I feel its kinda remiss to not mention Grip Sinclair here, a lot of the discussion the community had following Ringsang was just echoing discussions we had following Grip Sinclair's release. We just didn't have Kim Ji-Hoon himself weighing in at that time.
Ring Sang and WH Heathcliff were the harbingers of the new strongest IDs as well as the show of the future IDs to come.
To me, although I do not have Kali-Ryoshu, I can say that these are two of the strongest ID combinations: Wild Hunt + Solemn Lament and N Faust + Ring Sang. Ring Sang and N Faust is basically Ring Sang on steroids because of the guaranteed S2 reuse when you combine it with Faust’s S2. With Hex Nail, all of Ring Sang’s skills become nukes. I don’t have to explain Solemn Lament + Wild Hunt. It is basically a powerful Sinking melt setup.
ITS better to just use either w don or w Ryo for extra dmg instead of n faust since she just mid,but Ig fluid sac was exist for some reason
I think that the units are just, lore accurate.
Glad you’re doing better
ring sang carried me through the entirety of canto 7
Can't believe you only have 7k subs! Watched the Potential man video as well as this one under the impression that you had possibly several hundred thousand, Just subscribed though :D
Wow the meta is so cool!
The evil and malicious unbreakable coin:
GLORY TO THE MAESTRO RINGSANG
13:52
"Somthing intresting happened when she dropped"
*gets safelite ad*
I'm praying that Don Quixote (the real one) is being add to the game… please.
I really wish they went back and gave the older IDs a proper pep talk, because G corp Gregor rolling 12 on his skill 3 is depressing.
hey Loved the video but around 2:30 the edited in audio is so loud it kinda hurt, just something I noticed, sorry
Isnt that the point?
Back when Kimsault dropped, I expressed a bit of worry towards a friend of mine, that I was scared everything after Kimsault has to keep up with his strength
The one thing that hindered him becoming broken was that he was a poise-team heavy unit (even then he was goated)
But a generalist like Wildhunt or Red Eyes-shu showed me the fear was kinda justified, because they are so good without needing any support
Even Lament-sang strictly speaking doesnt need a sinking team to perform incredibly
I just hope they introduce Modules like in Arknights/ ID-specific UT5 for older units, so they dont catch dust
UT 5 will not fix them lol we will get another power creep so they will become weaker
@@bullet3417 Ofcourse they are getting outclassed soon after, but the important part is to bring them onpar with the 2page IDs (as this video describes them)
Doesnt matter if 3page IDs will release soon after this hypothetical change, but keeping them at rock bottom is worse
@@goodsirsepsis8152 it's just that uptie 5 being just a buff to ID's is not a good thing, when like the whole purpose of you uptying them is to make them just on similar strength with other ID's whie also requiring a huge farm. And the fact that after some time they will need a buff again so pm will need to make up6 or be the best company and just buff them in patches
@@bullet3417 yea I agree on that sentiment, but if it's not through Uptie, then it either has to be through another new mechanic or they buff them in Patchnotes
But I'm pretty sure they wont do the latter either way, because that would infringe on the "product value" of the IDs (which was the reason they didn't nerf Ringsang so much)
I really like the direction of limbus right now cuz I feel like PM finally got all status in a fairly in the position they wanted(and I guess they hate burn) I think people are just as always thinking that PM will screw things up because of their history with these things, we really should just try to feel ids now and also try to come with different team comps, after all Sinking broke of the mold of having just 1 team in mind with few changes, anyway great video, exited to see what you do next!
I love that at the start of the season i said: "man, this season i will use the full wuthering heights team, Just for the funnies".
That being said, my bleed team is lvl 50 and i can say that after using barber outis, i am bloodfeast-pilled and await with 200 boxes, 200 tread and enough xp tickets to lvl up greg to 50, and i shall cope for princess rodya (do not lose hope,bois,WE SHALL GET A GOOD RODYA BLEED ID)
The new catch phrase is '... two pages'
Also good video. Now to wait for the next thing, whatever it might be
Well I feel like I've been living off of the meta now! I only started playing during the Murder on the Warp train event. And just after that is when the mentioned Walpurgisnacht happened. And boy did I spend some money there. But I got Red eyes Ryoshu, Solemn Lament Yi Sang, and even Wild Hunt Heathcliff!
They have all carried me through the whole story. Just got caught up to the new canto as it launched.
When Peakcliff was released, Potential man was rolling in his grave he dug for himself. Crying for being cucked by a better man with better SP drain.
Cant wait for the don quixote ID
6.85k subs and good editting
the hidden gem has been found
chat are yall ready for the sancho don drop
Honestly throughout all my years of gacha nothing can compare to the hype leading up to Wild Hunt Heathcliff
And it's one of the only times a hyped character turned out to be really fucking broken too is awesome
I slot him into every team I bring him to sinking I bring him to bleed I bring him to Railway I bring him to Roblox
I FUCKING LOVE THE WILD HUNT!!!!!
to hell with yo best boy, roland the goat, fight me. i will not back down on this statement
i know powercreep is a thing in games but i never expected pagecreep to be a thing in this game
As someone who so statuspilled that any keywordless 000 id immediately turns into 00:
Butterfly Yi Sang is not as op as he seems. After dozens (or how many weeks have passed since his release since i run md daily) md runs with sinking, i can say for certain: Butterfly vs Bush is the most equal of all exchanges, with spicebush being better in md. The main determining factor is who are you gonna fight: waves of enemies or a singular target. For example, butterfly allowed me to 40 turn railway, while spicebush can quite reliably deal 700 dmg turn 4, or 1,5 more for every turn above that. Despite being the first id with an aoe, in present time it's probably the least important part of his kit, it actually more of a detriment, since it steals wild heath's kills and steals t count from s3
notice how they dissapear when the bloodfiend ID's appear
Noticing...
Ring Sang is busted wow
Elrking is has a 4th skill wow
Phillip has 2 forms wow
A month later, Manager Don comes out and just steals all of these mechanics for herself, thus becoming the new busted unit with 2 forms and 8 skills.
i wasnt expecting chrono ark OST on a limbus video. such a small world we live in lol
IS THAT ERLKING HEATHCLIFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wildcliff had the first essay of stuff. then came the bloodfiends. then came doncho. doncho took wildcliff and said "hey so you know how you've got a clashable counter? im gonna take that, and then im also gonna get four extra skills for a total of 8 skills. and i'm also gonna be able to nuke better than you. oh hey by the way im gonna be able to roll over 50 in a clash during mirror dungeon, how you feelin about that?"
god bless spamton.
>look in description
>"people mentioned: "Earl King, American singer-songwriter"
Aight
Limbus and Deltarune my beloveds
chef ryoshu is very underrated, she is deal so much damage to broken parts than any other id.
Calling Phillip best boy is a brave choice that will surely have no negative consequences.
Don't really agree with the red eyes/wryoshu/chef ryoshu comparisons.
Chef ryoshu isn't used in bleed teams, not even before red eyes. She just inflicts a pitiful amount of it, just enough to qualify for gifts.
W ryoshu and red eyes are both charge yes but you don't use them *because* they are charge, you use them because they are a dps monster.
Red eyes and w corp have 2 different niches by the simple fact that one is slash based and the other is blunt based, they will be useful depending on enemy weaknesses.
Chef rypshu got powercrept back when ryoshu released just because she's only a dps unit. Her healing, her bleed, her bind, it doesn't matter, people used her because she dealt good damage and rolled pretty high.
Then w ryoshu came who is slash based just like chef ryoshu (chef has pierce skill 2 but that's actually for her detriment because it's much better to be mono damage type) and rolled even higher than her and dealt more damage
And about solemn yi sang being on par with ring... Just no. Solemn sang is no setup and really good skill 3 damage but his skill 1 and 2 are average at best.
1/6th of the kit doesn't justify using him over ring sang as a generalist when his overall kit is simply better and also requires little to no setup. They both share damage type and 2/3 sins so not even that saves him for having some niche as a generalist over ring.
He is good as a generalist but definitely not better than ring or even close to equal and his real niche is making sinking deal more damage
I do think that new limbus kit tend to be unnecessarily wordy.
Like rodion not applying rupture could be made as a passive rather than span like 9 total lines throughout 3 skills. Sure, then it could technically apply to the counter but is it really worth it to "nerf" the counter that's barely used at the cost of having 9 extra lines?
Her not consuming rupture on skill 1 and 2 could just read if (passive) is active don't consume rupture and for skill 3 it would be if (passive) is active reuse last coin and that'd be a more compressed kit that does basically the same.
This can also be applied to many other new units that are way too wordy for no reason and you could reduce the word amount a bit even if it means lightly changing the kit a tiny amount for the sake of compression
3:54 up to this day, base Reinhardt still doesn't have a refine