Such an amazing unique way of creating lore and the setting. Having someone create a rich world with history and characters only to set the plot after that worlds and characters has been destroyed lol. Genius.
@@jimmyrustlerzyeah honestly I can’t help but feel so much of what could’ve made Elden Ring have a good story feels so fragmented and lost. Not that lore exploration can’t be fun, but like c’mon GRRM was giving you the sauce.
in reality, brexit didnt change anything. false hope and controlled opposition. britain is still a muslim colony and now it even has an indian pagan ruler. such regression.
Might just be me, but I think the grrm aspect was all marketing.. I kind of dont believe it? Fromsoft probably had a conference call with him to get a "sounds good"
@@ghostlightinthegreenroom Yeah. He was probably hired as one of those 'product quality managers' that just checks off on the story after glancing through it. No real input. Just a gimmick to bring the people who were busy shitting themselves to tears watching GoT at the time.
@@JoseRodriguez-eu5ezfunny enough it had the opposite effect on me, thankfully the game is still great, but I genuinely don’t really like Martin’s work. If you have ever read A Game of Thrones, you’ll understand what I mean. The story really isn’t compelling, he just adds a shit ton of pointless details to ever scene which makes it seem more thought out than it actually is. I don’t need to know what angle the character’s dong is hanging.. accounting for earth’s tilt of course.
Conceptually maybe, but the story, lore and game world is an unfinished broken mess of conflicting ideas and over ambition. As said by someone with close to 200 hours in the game now and full intent to play a lot more. It is still enjoyable but would could of been keeps nagging at you, something that could be said about anything that Martin works on.
george R R martin: im sorry there is no way I can write this story everything just seems too perfect and I cant keep delaying my books miazaki: oh dont worry im gonna destroy the world and kill off 90% of the characters George R R martin: FUCK MY BOOK SERIES LETS GET WORLDBUILDING
@@yadielrosado8012 he's honestly pretty far into writing The Winds of Winter with steady updates about the plot I think he'll finish that one unless he dies super soon but there's likely no chance he finishes the last book A Dream of Spring
@@poppers7317 He is an unstoppable writing machine that has taken 10 years and counting to write the two last books of ASOIAF. Godamn won't somebody stop that man?
@@MiguelCoBMaggotHe's not only a fantastic and amazing writer... He's an innovator. Like, seriously? Changing souls to runes? My God, he's a visionary.
@@user-xx3wf5mr9ohe kidnapped miquella while malenia took off to fight radhan and the fact that miquella is cursed to be a young boy forever it makes it even better for his creepy pedophile ass
Well yea. They tried to heavily rely on online for it and copy/paste human sized models with the same rehashed skill moves. I don’t know anyone who enjoyed it more than dark souls, demon souls, or elden. Hell even PS2 games like shadow of the colossus, kings field, or Maximo were more inventive.
@@spicelord4782please elaborate your second sentence because none of it is coherent. 🫤 And Shadow of the Colossus is not even close to the same genre.
@@spicelord4782 I definitely enjoyed it more than dark souls, and I think your comment is a load of hogwash. Bloodborne is a masterpiece of cosmic horror
I told my father that Elden Ring was being cocreated by GRRM, and he instantly asked “So it’s incomplete?” Seriously where tf is book 6 it’s been 11 years
To give you some hope (or maybe just copium) I think he’s trying to make sure he fully fleshes out his world before finishing the series. He evidently takes inspiration from Tolkien and understands that his life’s work is the world of A song of ice and fire. He seems to want to make sure he has fire and blood, dunk and egg, and his other full world contributions done before finishing his life’s work. I also imagine the bungling of the later seasons of got made him more aware of the necessity of his oversight in future film adaptation, and he has been putting in much more work overseeing hotd than he otherwise would have. Hypothetically, this all allows him to do a better and more complete job in writing the last books before the end of his working life. I’ve also heard it said that his understudy team has an even deeper knowledge of his world than he does, and I have faith that they would be able to finish his creation if he gets past his time of writing. This is all a bunch of conjecture on my part, but I do feel that he is working towards finishing his larger world and ASOIAF is going to be the overall endpoint of that. 13 years is nuts tho, hopefully he’ll get on to it eventually lol
@@evanmcdonald9134 The problem he's going to have is that a lot of people don't care about the story anymore. I read the last book over 10 years ago, have forgotten large portions of it, and have no interest in rereading them or reading any new ones by him. The guy needs to learn how to finish something.
@@evanmcdonald9134 OR he's a procrastinating hedonist and his outlook on life and storytelling precludes him from having a satisfying ending to ASOIAF, so he wastes his time writing other smaller, more manageable stories and going to conventions.
@@evanmcdonald9134no hes to busy writing bad shows and playing with trains. He litrally tried to finish the hooks through GOT and back peddled when he saw how furious people were with it.
Honestly would be really cool if From Soft gave us the original notes on what GRR wrote just so we could see his idea of the world before Miyazaki got involved.
I don't think even Fromsoft knows what they are doing, seeing how poorly written basically all their games are. They probably just used him for marketing
I love to imagine Martin checking in on Miyazaki to see what he’s doing with his characters,only to hear that two of them have now been Frankensteined into one person,one of them has lost his mind and now eats corpses,and another one is seen as kindness incarnate
I pray that one day we will get GRRMs writing for Elden Ring published. It'd be so cool to see the differences and changes made, to get a huge influx of lore to slap all those internet theorists in the face.
no. i dont want that and it fundamentally goes against the narrative style of the souls extended universe. miyazaki based it on his childhood experience of half understanding english fantasy novels and filling up the gap with his imagination. that is what the community likes and no one wants to slap internet theorists across the face other than a bunch of new players used to the classic infodump method of telling stories.
As someone who has gotten very into A Song of Ice and Fire lore, the background story 100% feels like something GRRM wrote. He is incredible at depicting a world on the very brink of calamity, he's been doing that for the past decade while writing the winds of winter.
He didn’t tho he just wrote some of the history and they used a little bit of it he didn’t write the story or anything like they he gave Miyazaki some inspiration
Shadow of the erdtree may actually have a lot of Martins stuff because it’s where Marika became a god, the start of her lore thousands of years ago, as he wrote. I am so hyped.
It's definitely part of the soulsbourne franchise. FS even reused assets. It is technically a sequel, in that it's part of a very specific franchise/genre of games that this studio launched and popularized. 😊
Bro accidentally exposed Miyazaki's hidden fantasy. They're all connected. So all theories are true. Elden Ring is Dark Souls, and the Blood of the Dark Soul from DS3 makes Bloodborne.
@@samf.s.7731no it's not, words have importance. Elden Ring isn't a sequel, it's a spiritual successor like Dark Souls was to Demon's Souls or Sekiro to Tenchu.
@@lahunica2726I feel you but let us dream. You can’t tell me you haven’t thought about how dark souls is about the lands of darkness. And finally bringing light to it, now pretend for a sec Elden ring IS “ds4.” The light you finally brought to the world in 3 (assuming you did the true ending) finally prospers. This whole land of the golden order comes into power, and just like anything. Too much of one thing becomes bad. This golden order became corrupted. And thus it’s up to you to bring the world back to darkness. Back to the beginning , with your demon soul 😂😂
There’s a lot of inspiration from Martin’s Wildcards series and from his earlier high fantasy series instead of his game of thrones stuff. I love how the game just seems like big callbacks to his older works. If you read his short stories you’ll find really interesting bits that relate to elden ring.
This game would make the most brutal sad beautiful meaningful dark and touching story you could imagine there is sòoo much depth and backstory not just a story but a really good story at that
@@RagPunkerit's almost like working on 8 spinoff shows, a videogame, other books, and having a life outside of writing his longest book yet is pretty time consuming.
Soo basically we see the whole Praetor Rykard stuff, we see what kind of person Godwyn was, who the Storm king was, the God apostles, Farum Azula and plenty other, and Yet, we only know fragments of that cuz the world Miyazaki destroyed
@@carythacker8049i think he meant, "if we could see the thing that George R R Martin wrote we would be able to see all of the interesting characters and places in elden ring before they were all destroyed/corrupted" but his comment is basically incoherent lmao
I like that way of describing Miyazaki’s approach to world building and story They start by describing a series of characters, creatures, gods and demigods with this ancient past of glory, power struggles, wars and divinity. Then we come to it in the game at a point of late stage entropy. The world, the people, the creatures, the gods themselves have been killed, mutilated, warped, deformed or driven to madness. That’s what we play in. An ancient world in which every character has been killed or destroyed in some way.
That could be really cool actualy, like its set right as the greater will arrives in the Lands and you play a char desperetly trying to fight off this monsterous parasite while others submit in exchange for vast powers.
Game literally taught me how to better manage my anger. And brought out the true passion I love about gaming. Was curious, tried it, went thru misery and countless wikis / yt vids but made it thru an glad I did.
@@fleetwoodemareviews742 nah mate he seem like he gave up already i mean look at the dude i don't think he stay in the world long enough to finish his work
So true lol he dint even know the name it’s not THE Elden ring it’s just elden Ring you can tell he flew to Japan once gave them like ten pages of scribble and went home thinking he’s the reason the game is so popular now
@@jessehalls3363 Lol stfu from what I’ve heard from soft were approached by Bandai and said nesislg make a souls type game and here’s the written apprenttly he wrote what happened before and Miyazaki change things after and one thing called “the Elden ring “ Diane mean anything lol
You can really see Martin's influence in the lore especially with the names of various events throughout the game's history like the Night of Black Knives and the fact that the game takes place within the midst of a millenia spanning war fought between multiple parties.
Tbh it can be. In the ending of ringed city, the painter using the blood of dark souls to make a new world, it can be sekiro or elden ring. ( Also it mean Dev using experience when making dark souls to make a better game )
There's a theory that the Frenzied Flame ending is the prequel to the Dark Souls games. Which became later known as the first flame when everything got destroyed and everything became one for an untold amount of time.
Sequel- *a published, broadcast, or recorded work that continues the story or develops the theme of an earlier one.* Elden Ring is very much a continuation of the themes of Dark Souls. In its lore and the gameplay. George himself wrote the backstory, so obviously he'd know it's not a sequel in the traditional sense. But surely you'd agree that the Sims 3 is a sequel to the Sims 2, even if it doesn't actually continue the same story?
I wouldn't say the story is amazing. lol The lore is good but that's about it. FromSoft games have poor storytelling. (Inbefore rabid FromSoft fanboys attack me because they watched 200 hours of Vaati's lore videos precisely proving my point.)
GRM was probably like "Hmm, yes, Godwyn, his hair flowing locks of gold, a gentle and noble demigod that has created a lasting alliance with the ancient dragons. People will love meeting this guy and enjoying the peace he created." Miyazaki: "lol. Lmao"
In Short, George build the backstory and characters and Miazaki went "now how to make this entire place a rundown hellhole and corrupt everyone living in there"
I really don't think the lore and mythos are the most important part of Elden Ring. Story alone doesn't keep people playing for 100 hours. That's the gameplay including the combat and the exploration.
It’s what makes the soul game’s interesting. It’s always after a big event and the world is usually dying or decaying. So the story you understand is your story but once you actually want to know more there’s a rabbit hole of information that’s connect really well. It’s almost like you in disbelief of what the world used to be like but the evidence is all around you. Even the bosses are usually in bad shape and it makes you wonder what they were in their prime when the world wasn’t decaying or dark souls. It’s a awesome feeling to see something interesting or weird and looking up the lore behind it. Also the facts it not written but people have to piece the story together Is perfect in a way.
Ish, he made 5,000 years worth of history, that history is not linear tho, maybe it was at some point, but the linearity is inaccessible to us. As a result, the 5,000 year is not a really meaningful designation of time. Years are time it takes for the sun to travel around the earth. Does that describe the lands between?
Mate Elden Ring is basically Dark Souls 4 but worse. Its indistinguishable in its gameplay. Its Dark Souls with spirit summons, a jump button and a horse, and weaker bosses with small counter windows and long combo strings.
This game is clearly a sequel of ds3, a world born after the dark age seen in the true ending of ringed city... Exactly like bloodborne is the sequel of ashes of ariandel (and ds1 for demon). That's proved by the fact that miyazaki confirmed the connection between déraciné and bloodborne
No, it’s not, I hate that people have this idea when it’s so obviously not true. Miyazaki has said multiple times that all of the series are separate, furthermore, it being a sequel does not even make sense, and completely ignores essential lore details in both series. Also, Miyazaki came out and said that the Bloodborne reference in deracine, was just an Easter egg. Stop spreading false information, it’s a separate world will separate lore and characters.
@@nightrain1121 no, I've read all interviews of miyazaki and he never denied the connections in his games (except for sekiro, where avoided the question for copyright reason). in fact he called the easter eggs about bb in déraciné as little nodes and he said that they exaggerated with them (fueling rumors about bloodborne 2). Moreover in an interview about bloodborne he randomly stated that the game shares a lot of things with painted worlds of dark souls (answering out of context when asked about the interconnection of the map). if you think about what they did with ashes ariandel, where a " "cold, dark, and very gentle place" is painted with the blood of the dark souls, everything is obvious... and ashes of ariandel is a painted world with a culture based on blood, hunters and werewolfs (ds3 ending was already written at the time of bb)
@@nightrain1121 if you don't believe me read the interviews at the bottom. Anyway could you explain me with part of the lore would be in contrast with the fact that those game are connected? Anyway read: "the significance of déraciné to bloodborne" "Our full miyazaki sekiro interview" "miyazaki bloodborne full interview"
@@untipo. no, clearly you haven’t. Just because these games have similar themes does not mean they are in the same universe. Miyazaki has stated multiple times that he prefers creating new worlds. Besides, the lore just doesn’t match up. Feel free to have your head canon and theories, but stop presenting them as facts.
I love the idea of Martin handing Miyazaki this beautiful Mythos and world meticulously crafted with its own set of politics and Miyazaki just took a sledgehammer to the lore and sprinkled the shattered pieces into the game like puzzle pieces for us to find.
Now that I think about it that would be a very fun game to do with friends who are also into world building, one person makes a beautiful amazing mythos and the other and meth dragons.
This is how every game ends up so good Martin makes the world and Miyazaki destroys it as funny as it may sound it leads to us exploring this lost place and figuring out the lore along the way pretty cool👍
I love the idea that Martin created this world and Miyazaki destroyed it for us to bask in its lost glory.
Such an amazing unique way of creating lore and the setting. Having someone create a rich world with history and characters only to set the plot after that worlds and characters has been destroyed lol. Genius.
Really shows how much GRRM needs to rely on other people to do his work tbh
It's not stories he likes to bask in... It's people's dreams...😅😅😢
@@jimmyrustlerzyeah honestly I can’t help but feel so much of what could’ve made Elden Ring have a good story feels so fragmented and lost. Not that lore exploration can’t be fun, but like c’mon GRRM was giving you the sauce.
He's really quite skilled at starting good work though, kinda the perfect project for him
“Brexit” fucking got me
in reality, brexit didnt change anything. false hope and controlled opposition. britain is still a muslim colony and now it even has an indian pagan ruler. such regression.
Me too 😂😂😂😂
I'm dying 😂😂😂
Greetings, traveler from beyond the channel
I’ve played bloodborne hundreds of time and seen thousands of memes yet the brexit and British jokes will always be funny
"Cool cool, but what about poison swamps?"
- Michael Zaki, probably
Hide your tacos Miyazaki really has a thing for swamps.
Mike Wazowski?
Hide your tacos mia zki
"Nice try Michael Zaki not today"
- Zanny
The neck part on Westeros is a gnarly kingdom sized swamp.
“He killed every character”. Yeah, I’m pretty sure he’s quite good at it
he meant miyazaki killed every character
@@malachiw392Miyazaki is also quite good at it.
Name 5 main characters George RR Martin killed in the books
@@jolopolo4761sean bean dies in 5 movies does that count ?
Miyazaki is even darker at it
Grrm: hey, can i see godwyn design? Is he a boss fight?
Miyazaki: *shows a decomposed fish image*
GRRM: "ok, now let's add someone to have sex with it"
MEOW MEOW MOEEOEWOWW FUCKKKKK M)OU MEOW MEWO
Thats actually genius storytelling by both. Grrm creates the world and miyazaki kills it, and lets the player pick up the shards
Might just be me, but I think the grrm aspect was all marketing.. I kind of dont believe it? Fromsoft probably had a conference call with him to get a "sounds good"
@@ghostlightinthegreenroom
Yeah. He was probably hired as one of those 'product quality managers' that just checks off on the story after glancing through it. No real input.
Just a gimmick to bring the people who were busy shitting themselves to tears watching GoT at the time.
@@JoseRodriguez-eu5ezfunny enough it had the opposite effect on me, thankfully the game is still great, but I genuinely don’t really like Martin’s work. If you have ever read A Game of Thrones, you’ll understand what I mean. The story really isn’t compelling, he just adds a shit ton of pointless details to ever scene which makes it seem more thought out than it actually is. I don’t need to know what angle the character’s dong is hanging.. accounting for earth’s tilt of course.
@@steveoATL6Ah.. So, he writes like a woman. Got it.
Conceptually maybe, but the story, lore and game world is an unfinished broken mess of conflicting ideas and over ambition.
As said by someone with close to 200 hours in the game now and full intent to play a lot more. It is still enjoyable but would could of been keeps nagging at you, something that could be said about anything that Martin works on.
When I’m in a character killing contest and my opponents are Miyazaki and gege.
And tatsuki fujimoto
nah id win
Stand proud Miyazaki, you’re literate
Miyazaki wins easily. The amount of times i died just to the orphan alone... jeez😅
@@hellogoodbye3786 Unfortunately you're not worthy of being called a character.
george R R martin: im sorry there is no way I can write this story everything just seems too perfect and I cant keep delaying my books
miazaki: oh dont worry im gonna destroy the world and kill off 90% of the characters
George R R martin: FUCK MY BOOK SERIES LETS GET WORLDBUILDING
True story
He did end up actually doing that
Legend says he still hasn't finished the book to this day.
@@MrCarlosj0i dont think he has even started it
@@yadielrosado8012 he's honestly pretty far into writing The Winds of Winter with steady updates about the plot I think he'll finish that one unless he dies super soon but there's likely no chance he finishes the last book A Dream of Spring
“All I did was change souls to runes”
-George R.R. Martin
How does he come up with that?
@@poppers7317 He is an unstoppable writing machine that has taken 10 years and counting to write the two last books of ASOIAF. Godamn won't somebody stop that man?
@@MiguelCoBMaggotHe's not only a fantastic and amazing writer... He's an innovator. Like, seriously? Changing souls to runes? My God, he's a visionary.
The fact grrm considers 2011 “a few years ago” explains a lot actually
That's usually happens when you get older tbh
This comment is under appreciated
That's fucking right
And you being born after 2011 explains the need to point this out
@@onetruefate pre 9/11 actually. Thank you for the speculation basement dweller. I’ll take it into consideration.
George RR Martin just made mohg a pedo and called it a day💀
Feels about right
An incestuous pedo at that
How is he a pedo ?
@@user-xx3wf5mr9o bro abducted miquella, raped him and did some questionable stuff rituals on him this while he looks Like a blonde child
@@user-xx3wf5mr9ohe kidnapped miquella while malenia took off to fight radhan and the fact that miquella is cursed to be a young boy forever it makes it even better for his creepy pedophile ass
My guy doing side quests...and never finished the MAIN STORYLINE.
8 spinoff shows. Videogames. Random other books and encyclopedias. Interviews here and there. Sounds like my first playthrough of Skyrim.
He then says that hell finish the game later and then leaves it there to play other games. Understandable if it was just a game and not actual work.
Happened to me in real . Played 700 hours and have 50 % of the "Storyline" .
MAN CALLED BLOODBORNE'S EVENT BREXIT NAHHH
Well yea. They tried to heavily rely on online for it and copy/paste human sized models with the same rehashed skill moves. I don’t know anyone who enjoyed it more than dark souls, demon souls, or elden. Hell even PS2 games like shadow of the colossus, kings field, or Maximo were more inventive.
@@spicelord4782 what does this have to do with brexit
@@spicelord4782please elaborate your second sentence because none of it is coherent. 🫤 And Shadow of the Colossus is not even close to the same genre.
@@spicelord4782a lot of people enjoyed BB more than Souls. You just haven't met them
@@spicelord4782 I definitely enjoyed it more than dark souls, and I think your comment is a load of hogwash. Bloodborne is a masterpiece of cosmic horror
I told my father that Elden Ring was being cocreated by GRRM, and he instantly asked “So it’s incomplete?”
Seriously where tf is book 6 it’s been 11 years
13, now. And counting. Book 7 is a pipe dream at this point.
To give you some hope (or maybe just copium) I think he’s trying to make sure he fully fleshes out his world before finishing the series. He evidently takes inspiration from Tolkien and understands that his life’s work is the world of A song of ice and fire. He seems to want to make sure he has fire and blood, dunk and egg, and his other full world contributions done before finishing his life’s work. I also imagine the bungling of the later seasons of got made him more aware of the necessity of his oversight in future film adaptation, and he has been putting in much more work overseeing hotd than he otherwise would have. Hypothetically, this all allows him to do a better and more complete job in writing the last books before the end of his working life. I’ve also heard it said that his understudy team has an even deeper knowledge of his world than he does, and I have faith that they would be able to finish his creation if he gets past his time of writing.
This is all a bunch of conjecture on my part, but I do feel that he is working towards finishing his larger world and ASOIAF is going to be the overall endpoint of that. 13 years is nuts tho, hopefully he’ll get on to it eventually lol
@@evanmcdonald9134 The problem he's going to have is that a lot of people don't care about the story anymore. I read the last book over 10 years ago, have forgotten large portions of it, and have no interest in rereading them or reading any new ones by him. The guy needs to learn how to finish something.
@@evanmcdonald9134 OR he's a procrastinating hedonist and his outlook on life and storytelling precludes him from having a satisfying ending to ASOIAF, so he wastes his time writing other smaller, more manageable stories and going to conventions.
@@evanmcdonald9134no hes to busy writing bad shows and playing with trains. He litrally tried to finish the hooks through GOT and back peddled when he saw how furious people were with it.
He named 99% of the characters starting with the letter G,R,M. For some reason...
Idk why but this comment makes me want to play Elden ring again
It's called having a GIGANTIC ego.
G.R.R.M
Godfrey, Radagon, Renalla, Marika
@@toaster3082Godrick. Radahn. Rykard. Malenia. (there's actually a whole bunch of M's)
Marika, Melina, Malenia, Maliketh, Millicent, Miquella - took me 3 playthroughs to stop confusing these, yet it still takes effort
To be fair games take so long to be made not even voice actors remember what they did
haha no of course I'm just having fun no hate towards GRRM at all
@@ZeeVoke NO YOU LIAR, YOU HATE HIM. YOU HATE HIM BC HE WROTE SUCH GOOD LORE!!!!
jk
@@dsuable_chill buddy
@@EatFuckingTimothy did you seriously miss the jk?
Yet it was still rushed
Well, at least there's no dysentery diarrhea scenes in Elden Ring.
THe MoRe ShE DraNk the MoRe SHe ShaT
well it got the Dung Eater
@@hsgame4088and the more the shat the thirstier she grew😂
Miyazaki loves his Myrish swamps
Myazaki loves his share of dung pies
Honestly would be really cool if From Soft gave us the original notes on what GRR wrote just so we could see his idea of the world before Miyazaki got involved.
Yeah wish we got a making of elden ring documentary
tf? Before Miyazaki got involved? Swap it the other way around
I don't think even Fromsoft knows what they are doing, seeing how poorly written basically all their games are.
They probably just used him for marketing
@@Digger-Nick Go sit in the corner you rage-baiting gremlin
@@Digger-Nick FromSoftware knows exactly what they are doing. People like you who don't understand their games, don't matter to them
He'll do anything but write those darned books 😂
When they can make elden ring a $100 million dollar videogame in 5 years but martin takes 12 to write a book
Thats honestly one of the best ways to tell a story. One person made the world, another writes the story within it.
I love to imagine Martin checking in on Miyazaki to see what he’s doing with his characters,only to hear that two of them have now been Frankensteined into one person,one of them has lost his mind and now eats corpses,and another one is seen as kindness incarnate
I pray that one day we will get GRRMs writing for Elden Ring published. It'd be so cool to see the differences and changes made, to get a huge influx of lore to slap all those internet theorists in the face.
I wish fromsoft allowed behind the scenes looks it would be amazing
nah dont give him another reason to weasel out of finishing his books
@@username.exenotfound2943books? What books? Admit it bro, winds will never see the light of day
@@username.exenotfound2943 He wouldn't have to write anything new it would just be releasing what he's already done.
no. i dont want that and it fundamentally goes against the narrative style of the souls extended universe. miyazaki based it on his childhood experience of half understanding english fantasy novels and filling up the gap with his imagination. that is what the community likes and no one wants to slap internet theorists across the face other than a bunch of new players used to the classic infodump method of telling stories.
the dungeater was definitely george's doing LOL
As someone who has gotten very into A Song of Ice and Fire lore, the background story 100% feels like something GRRM wrote. He is incredible at depicting a world on the very brink of calamity, he's been doing that for the past decade while writing the winds of winter.
He didn’t tho he just wrote some of the history and they used a little bit of it he didn’t write the story or anything like they he gave Miyazaki some inspiration
@@shanedillis153 GR made the world, from soft made the apocalypse that destroyed it
@@photoast_no, fromsoft showed him the characters and he gave them backstories
@@sixe9095 wrong
@@photoast_ aire prove it then pissboy
Shadow of the erdtree may actually have a lot of Martins stuff because it’s where Marika became a god, the start of her lore thousands of years ago, as he wrote. I am so hyped.
The wait is over my friend.
The correct response is "the grafted greatsword
“George you’re not getting me. I need you to write in an entire swamp area that gives you cancer.”
“A sequel to a game called dark souls” 💀 ☠️
It's definitely part of the soulsbourne franchise.
FS even reused assets.
It is technically a sequel, in that it's part of a very specific franchise/genre of games that this studio launched and popularized. 😊
Bro accidentally exposed Miyazaki's hidden fantasy. They're all connected. So all theories are true. Elden Ring is Dark Souls, and the Blood of the Dark Soul from DS3 makes Bloodborne.
@@samf.s.7731no it's not, words have importance. Elden Ring isn't a sequel, it's a spiritual successor like Dark Souls was to Demon's Souls or Sekiro to Tenchu.
@@lahunica2726I feel you but let us dream. You can’t tell me you haven’t thought about how dark souls is about the lands of darkness. And finally bringing light to it, now pretend for a sec Elden ring IS “ds4.” The light you finally brought to the world in 3 (assuming you did the true ending) finally prospers. This whole land of the golden order comes into power, and just like anything. Too much of one thing becomes bad. This golden order became corrupted. And thus it’s up to you to bring the world back to darkness. Back to the beginning , with your demon soul 😂😂
@@samf.s.7731 Yes. Armored core and Ace combat is also part of the same universe.
Prequel would go hard af but hell I’d settle for a fucking dlc
I'll take it too, although the dlc is gonna be amazing
Your wishes were heard
This aged well
There’s a lot of inspiration from Martin’s Wildcards series and from his earlier high fantasy series instead of his game of thrones stuff. I love how the game just seems like big callbacks to his older works. If you read his short stories you’ll find really interesting bits that relate to elden ring.
This game would make the most brutal sad beautiful meaningful dark and touching story you could imagine there is sòoo much depth and backstory not just a story but a really good story at that
All he did was change souls to runes and made it where Marika and Radagon are selfcest.
Having a guy write an entire mythos for a world just so you can destroy it as the setting for your video game is the most genius thing.
And then players come and destroy evem what is remaining after that.
genius recognizes genius. 2 masters of worldbuilding actually took the opportunity to collaborate!
George is a genius yes... provided he actually finishes a project.
"genius?" Lol, dude can't even finish the Ice and Fire series. A genius could have done it years ago.
@@RagPunkerit's almost like working on 8 spinoff shows, a videogame, other books, and having a life outside of writing his longest book yet is pretty time consuming.
@@RagPunker lmao Most of kafkas work are incomplete so what he isnt a genius?
Remember, Illiteracy is a choice
He also made every boss be named after his initials. Also, don't forget the GOT throne sword
Yeah he created entire backstory of this world..... but he supposed to end f*cking book! 😂
GRRM wrote Mohg, designed the Grafted Blade Greatsword, and called it done
Havin GRRM doing the story that happened 6000 years ago to have from make it all sad and destroyed was a pretty damn smart move
Soo basically we see the whole Praetor Rykard stuff, we see what kind of person Godwyn was, who the Storm king was, the God apostles, Farum Azula and plenty other, and Yet, we only know fragments of that cuz the world Miyazaki destroyed
What are you on about 😭
@@carythacker8049i think he meant, "if we could see the thing that George R R Martin wrote we would be able to see all of the interesting characters and places in elden ring before they were all destroyed/corrupted" but his comment is basically incoherent lmao
I like that way of describing Miyazaki’s approach to world building and story
They start by describing a series of characters, creatures, gods and demigods with this ancient past of glory, power struggles, wars and divinity. Then we come to it in the game at a point of late stage entropy. The world, the people, the creatures, the gods themselves have been killed, mutilated, warped, deformed or driven to madness. That’s what we play in. An ancient world in which every character has been killed or destroyed in some way.
Morgott is still vibing
"I like that way of describing Miyazaki’s approach to world building and story"
Lazy? lol
It would be so cool if we got an elden ring prequel, when everything was civilized
That could be really cool actualy, like its set right as the greater will arrives in the Lands and you play a char desperetly trying to fight off this monsterous parasite while others submit in exchange for vast powers.
@@cthulhluftagn3812crucible knights be like
Game literally taught me how to better manage my anger. And brought out the true passion I love about gaming. Was curious, tried it, went thru misery and countless wikis / yt vids but made it thru an glad I did.
Knowing Martin he was probably adamant on putting a giant turtle in the game.
I kinda like the idea that Martin was just as in the dark about what he was doing as players are in Souls games.
Is there an Elden ring book?
Don't give Martin ideas to how not finish Song Of Ice And Fire pls 😂
@@fleetwoodemareviews742 nah mate he seem like he gave up already
i mean look at the dude i don't think he stay in the world
long enough to finish his work
Look up Lokey's books.
@@Uncle1899 People have been saying that for years, so what?
miazaki says its not a sequel though...
I bet these two love playing video games you can tell by the way they say elden ring with such enthusiasm
This is what you hear when you come to mars
We all know he didn't do shit and this was all a marketing move.
Sod off.
George just getting payed for existing at this point tbh.
Ye I’d do the same.
lol
So true lol he dint even know the name it’s not THE Elden ring it’s just elden Ring you can tell he flew to Japan once gave them like ten pages of scribble and went home thinking he’s the reason the game is so popular now
@@jessehalls3363 Lol stfu from what I’ve heard from soft were approached by Bandai and said nesislg make a souls type game and here’s the written apprenttly he wrote what happened before and Miyazaki change things after and one thing called “the Elden ring “ Diane mean anything lol
This guy makes discord admins and reddit users look normal
Hey, more respect to the legend
True
Except he’s nicer
You can really see Martin's influence in the lore especially with the names of various events throughout the game's history like the Night of Black Knives and the fact that the game takes place within the midst of a millenia spanning war fought between multiple parties.
“Cross the fog…. to the lands between…. and stand before the Elden Ring”
How tf is elden ring a sequel to dark souls? Lore based that is impossible
He doesn’t really know about the games that’s why all he knows is that he was supposed to come up for what happened 5000 years ago for the story
Tbh it can be. In the ending of ringed city, the painter using the blood of dark souls to make a new world, it can be sekiro or elden ring. ( Also it mean Dev using experience when making dark souls to make a better game )
@@01-aleriorayyaarifaisal91most likely bb, does two don't really fit using "the blood of the dark soul to paint a new world".
There's a theory that the Frenzied Flame ending is the prequel to the Dark Souls games. Which became later known as the first flame when everything got destroyed and everything became one for an untold amount of time.
Sequel-
*a published, broadcast, or recorded work that continues the story or develops the theme of an earlier one.*
Elden Ring is very much a continuation of the themes of Dark Souls. In its lore and the gameplay.
George himself wrote the backstory, so obviously he'd know it's not a sequel in the traditional sense. But surely you'd agree that the Sims 3 is a sequel to the Sims 2, even if it doesn't actually continue the same story?
the story is amazing it's just a shame the miyazaki seems to think every game he makes has to be bleakly depressing
tears of the kindgom is the happy version
Elden ring is very brigjt, hopeful and happy compared to bloodborne and ds3
That's why it's called Dark Fantasy bro, living in the middle ages sucked.
@@mr.redhands8390 this isn't middle ages bro
I wouldn't say the story is amazing. lol
The lore is good but that's about it. FromSoft games have poor storytelling.
(Inbefore rabid FromSoft fanboys attack me because they watched 200 hours of Vaati's lore videos precisely proving my point.)
GRM was probably like "Hmm, yes, Godwyn, his hair flowing locks of gold, a gentle and noble demigod that has created a lasting alliance with the ancient dragons. People will love meeting this guy and enjoying the peace he created."
Miyazaki: "lol. Lmao"
In Short, George build the backstory and characters and Miazaki went "now how to make this entire place a rundown hellhole and corrupt everyone living in there"
I really don't think the lore and mythos are the most important part of Elden Ring. Story alone doesn't keep people playing for 100 hours. That's the gameplay including the combat and the exploration.
True but lore and visual storytelling are an important part of what makes the exploration fun and illuminating
It’s what makes the soul game’s interesting. It’s always after a big event and the world is usually dying or decaying. So the story you understand is your story but once you actually want to know more there’s a rabbit hole of information that’s connect really well. It’s almost like you in disbelief of what the world used to be like but the evidence is all around you.
Even the bosses are usually in bad shape and it makes you wonder what they were in their prime when the world wasn’t decaying or dark souls. It’s a awesome feeling to see something interesting or weird and looking up the lore behind it. Also the facts it not written but people have to piece the story together Is perfect in a way.
you can defiantly play the game without knowing the lore but the moment you do it really pushes it from good game to great game.
Found the guy who can't read
Ish, he made 5,000 years worth of history, that history is not linear tho, maybe it was at some point, but the linearity is inaccessible to us. As a result, the 5,000 year is not a really meaningful designation of time. Years are time it takes for the sun to travel around the earth. Does that describe the lands between?
LOL BREXIT, seriously, whoever voted for Brexit should be ashamed
No
@@MaQuGo119 yes actually
I'm lucky I wasn't old enough to make the mistake of voting for brexit
Wtf
He doesn't even know about the game. It's literally not a sequel to anything
They are the same genre. Maybe he just got confused. He is like 80.
@@thedarklord2130 yeah I know. I'm just saying people like to use that as evidence
He means it like being a successor to dark souls, not a direct sequel.
Mate Elden Ring is basically Dark Souls 4 but worse. Its indistinguishable in its gameplay. Its Dark Souls with spirit summons, a jump button and a horse, and weaker bosses with small counter windows and long combo strings.
@@Krystalmyth it doesn't even have the same style
Well we get DLC soon so that makes his contributions interesting and relevant now.
I like the concept. Have one Human make an amazing and interesting world and then see what another Human does with it...
This game is clearly a sequel of ds3, a world born after the dark age seen in the true ending of ringed city... Exactly like bloodborne is the sequel of ashes of ariandel (and ds1 for demon). That's proved by the fact that miyazaki confirmed the connection between déraciné and bloodborne
No, it’s not, I hate that people have this idea when it’s so obviously not true. Miyazaki has said multiple times that all of the series are separate, furthermore, it being a sequel does not even make sense, and completely ignores essential lore details in both series. Also, Miyazaki came out and said that the Bloodborne reference in deracine, was just an Easter egg. Stop spreading false information, it’s a separate world will separate lore and characters.
@@nightrain1121 no, I've read all interviews of miyazaki and he never denied the connections in his games (except for sekiro, where avoided the question for copyright reason). in fact he called the easter eggs about bb in déraciné as little nodes and he said that they exaggerated with them (fueling rumors about bloodborne 2). Moreover in an interview about bloodborne he randomly stated that the game shares a lot of things with painted worlds of dark souls (answering out of context when asked about the interconnection of the map).
if you think about what they did with ashes ariandel, where a " "cold, dark, and very gentle place" is painted with the blood of the dark souls, everything is obvious... and ashes of ariandel is a painted world with a culture based on blood, hunters and werewolfs (ds3 ending was already written at the time of bb)
@@nightrain1121 if you don't believe me read the interviews at the bottom. Anyway could you explain me with part of the lore would be in contrast with the fact that those game are connected?
Anyway read:
"the significance of déraciné to bloodborne"
"Our full miyazaki sekiro interview"
"miyazaki bloodborne full interview"
@@untipo. no, clearly you haven’t. Just because these games have similar themes does not mean they are in the same universe. Miyazaki has stated multiple times that he prefers creating new worlds. Besides, the lore just doesn’t match up. Feel free to have your head canon and theories, but stop presenting them as facts.
@@untipo. it’s not about belief, you are objectively, diametrically wrong.
Both are two of the absolute best storytellers of our time in all honesty
martin *build a sand castle*
miyazaki: lemme sprinkle a lil darkside into it 🤔
I honestly believe GRRM couldn't deliver all the work asked from him on time, and so Miyasaki picked up the rest.
Both of them have the capacity to kill everything and everyone you love that's why its a brilliant decision to put them together to bring a lore in.
He made sure that each of the main boss bore one of his initials. G R M...
shit man really there's not a single demigod&god whose initials aren't G or R or M when you think about it
Martin - "I made this for you, Miyazaki-san."
Miyazaki - " ...R1R1R1R1R1R1R1"
Finish the goddamned book, Georgie!
Martin: you know i kill off characters right?
Miyazaki: why do you think i wanted to work with you?
the man spilled the beans, A SEQUEL TO DARK SOULS. THEYRE ALL CONNECTED. THE TARNISHED BECOMES THE ASHEN ONE.
2 amazing writters: one is a god of creation and the other is the god of destruction to make a beautiful world
GRRM put his mushroom stamp on the franchise by naming every character with a G an R or an M
*sigh* I guess I’ll pull another all nighter to play Elden Ring again
The mythos he created screams game of thrones. His DNA is all over it.
Don't ever ask him any lore questions, because he won't know the answer...
Man will do anything but right his last damn book
He's got two more in A Song of Ice and Fire
I love the idea of Martin handing Miyazaki this beautiful Mythos and world meticulously crafted with its own set of politics and Miyazaki just took a sledgehammer to the lore and sprinkled the shattered pieces into the game like puzzle pieces for us to find.
that's a really cool way of creating a soulsborne world
The story has what I’d call meat
He didn't destory it. He just morphed it into more of what he was thinking.
Martin adding wolves to all the royalty and modeling Horah Loux as Tommen The Golden King is absolutely insane, ngl.
Can help write lore for a game. Can't finish a book
Something you knew, then forgot, and then are pleased to find out again.
Is that the fucking league of legends question mark ping? I might have brain damage...
Literally doing everything in the world besides writing the next book
Now that I think about it that would be a very fun game to do with friends who are also into world building, one person makes a beautiful amazing mythos and the other and meth dragons.
The whole family situation in the Demi-Gods was very GoT
“A few years ago” 2011
'how did you create the world of elden ring?'
'well i played dark souls 1 and thought hey if they made it three times already why not go for four'
Him putting THE in front, is such a grampa move
AND WE STILL DONT HAVE WINDS!!!
Oh he just berserk'd his world
This is how every game ends up so good Martin makes the world and Miyazaki destroys it as funny as it may sound it leads to us exploring this lost place and figuring out the lore along the way pretty cool👍
He just got a huge check so they could attach his name. Marketing. It's just like the rest of the games
Naah, I am 100% certain after watching the elden lore that it was grrm. Especially the incest part
He also created the family tree of the demigods and dragons
So this is why we are still waiting on the next book…
If only there was lore and not item descriptions
The only thing I could imagine George adding to the game is the Dung Eater.