3:41 I love this one dude, the very first comment instructed you to lie to apple's technician. Bro, when the customer have a valid complain/problem but have to lie about it to get it fixed, the company have some problems, I JUST SAYIN !
I had a buddy who worked at a apple certified store that closed down at the end of last year unfortunately. He helped me and my friends get replacements for our phones when they broke. He would tell us to book an appt online and say x and it would qualify for some replacement program apple ran under the radar. I dropped a 20 lb metal cable attachment at the gym on my iphone x and it totally killed the top 20% of my screen's ability to detect touch. Hit up my buddy and was able to get a new screen and even a screen protector for free. Gonna miss that.
I recognize we've all come accept a LOT of shit as normal these days, but a soldered-on SSD puts a hard finite limit on the life of a very expensive purchase. I just can't understand why anyone would think this is OK. Yeah, I know it's been going on for a few years.
@@MiguelY22 that's why us tech savvy people need to keep making sure we let them know. Just tell them exactly what apple tells them... That their data can't be saved in case anything happens. I talked a friend out of buying this using that exact tactic.
@@RandomUser2401 I will take function over form any day. You are welcome to your shiny paperweights, you apple troll. I can see all the comments you've made, moron. Even apple trolls are low quality.
@@xmlthegreat As I said, you are free to buy outdated bulky brick-style laptops where everything is modular. I prefer thin & lights and to actually backup my data regularly, like every sane user does.
@@dj78productions no. Looks actually come in last on my priorities list. But people like you are simply unable to mentally grasp any features other than naked performance numbers on paper and modularity. You are unable to comprehend the tradeoffs a majority of the users is willing to do - hint: these tradeoffs have nothing to do with looks.
My wife has a 2012 a1278. She wanted to get a new Mac and I cautioned her against after watching your channel for a long time and hearing about all of the issues with Macbooks. We decided to upgrade the hard drive and ram, and replace the battery on her existing machine. Now she loves the refurbished machine and we kept thousands of dollars out of Apples hands!
Very smart move. I've done the same and the 2012 MBP I'm using is perfectly serviceable for most everyday things. Sure, it's going to struggle with anything heavyweight but that's a small price to pay.
I would upgrade to an A1502 MacBook Pro. Even though the 8MB or 16MB of RAM is soldiered on, they are reliable and feature the Retina display. It's hard to use any laptop without it. Unfortunately, they're still pretty pricey. Maybe the M1 will bring down the price.
Apple: We are not giving you chargers for your phones because we are concerned about sustainability. Also Apple: All our laptops come with planned obsolescence.
Also Apple: We make our cables incompatible with older bricks so you most likely have to buy a new one which takes up more shipping labor and packaging than including it in one trip and package Oh and our charger refuses to use industry standards causing more product waste and compatibility issues
My macbook is 5 years old and so far so good, and I use it a lot. My last one lasted 4 years before I left it fall and it broke.... So I think they are good.
@@bauervieira3936 I've had the same Toshiba laptop since 2009 ... The battery just pops out the back get a new one off eBay every 5 years 😆 ... Hasn't ever let me down.
@@andrewshraga7301 Yeah, but I’m not let down either. And I intend to change my mac more often so it doesn’t really matter, specially now since the new macs are so power eficient.
Jim Carrey needs to make a movie called "The Repair Guy" and how a guy who lives in Manhattan, New York goes on a murder rampage after not being able to repair laptops anymore.
@@ravenbarsrepairs5594 1. The entrance to his shop was never blocked off. There are transcripts from multiple civil/court case between him, the concrete plant, and the town and he never mentions anything about his entrance being blocked. 2. His water was never cut off. Period. The problem was his shop didn't have a sewer line or septic when he bought it and he never had either one installed. He had been storing and illegally dumping all of his waste for several years before the city fined him and told him to get his shit (lol) together. This all happened after he had shut down his business and auctioned off his equipment, but he still owned the property. 3. He did end up closing his business, but the city didn't just take it. He sold the property to a trash company for $400,000 (he had bought it for $40,000). 4. Several of the building were inhabited at the start of his rampage, including a local newspaper office and a library that had been hosting a children's reading program. 5. One of the buildings he targeted, Gambles Hardware, was owned by Casey Farrell. He had no known history with Marv Heemeyer. I couldn't find out if they ever reopened, but Farrell said “But I thought ‘Well OK, we’ve got insurance.’ We did. Just not enough.” and the store is currently closed. 6. Another building was of a mayor who had died 3 years prior to his rampage and was home to his 82 year old widow. Kind of a dick move. TLDR he was a massive tool Sources: www.denverpost.com/2018/07/02/fourteen-years-ago-the-bulldozer-attack-on-my-newspaper-in-granby-was-a-warning/ killdozerbook.com/2018/09/bogus-killdozer-youtube-full-of-false-facts/ mountaintownnews.net/2018/02/17/patrick-brower-talks-killdozer-operator-no-hero/ mountaintownnews.net/2014/06/27/granbys-wounds-10-years-day-bulldozer-terror/ archives.durangotelegraph.com/04-06-24/mountain_exchange.htm www.denverpost.com/2014/06/04/granby-bulldozer-rampage-revisited-ten-years-later/
@@sawyermade5469 Well it turns out that the "lifetime" in "lifetime fill" is about 150,000 miles because that's when the transmission craps out and needs a rebuild. So technically it's true.
10 minutes later: the only problem with Louis's videos whenever he takes Apple to task is that they're too short. I could do with more smack talk in my day.
The nerve of Apple to say "non-compliant" when THEY are the ones being non-compliant to an open and widely used standard. Apple devices are the non-compliant devices
Class action lawsuit by everyone effected for advertising USB ports when they don't conform to the standard... not that it would even make a dent in their margins, but still
Back in the day when Steve Jobs was first getting started he wanted to make it so Apple computers could only receive emails from another Apple Computer (it didn't happen but the mindset was there). Thus 30 odd years later their latest shenanigans don't really surprise whatsoever.
Sad thing is, Apple is the company who popularized USB way back when it first came out. The thing about it is supposed to be ya know.... universal. But you have these Macbooks that become paperweight when you plug in any non Apple dongle.
@@AmaraTheBarbarian Apple's profits are iOS driven, have been for years. Mac is a tiny slice of their bean counter world now, and the people making the design decisions aren't power users of Macs. if they were, no Mac laptop would have soldered down ssd.
What's your source on this? Apple devices are usually pretty standards compliant, but unlike most other manufacturers, they're too cheap/lazy to properly test or build proper safety features for devices that don't rigorously adhere to standards even though such devices are extremely common and still usable provided the PC maker builds in work arounds.
After Covid, people will go and test their USB devices in the Apple stores in order not to brick their own computers. This will work until Apple blocks the access to the ports.
Haha 😂 I sure hope nothing goes truly portless, as hardline is always more reliable and lower energy usage. But I’m super old-school, coming from an audio engineering perspective. 😉 WiFi is super convenient, but it’s a waste to blast all that energy into the radio band. And inductive charging is highly inefficient-typically a minimum of 30% of the energy is wasted. If you get power from coal, that’s ~30% more coal burned by using the device. It was bad enough that they eliminated the 1/8” audio jack, though they did easily clog with pocket lint. Now no dedicated power connector. And my phone’s lightning port already seems to be having some intermittent connectivity issues, 2-years in. But I got an M1 laptop and I gotta say-not needing an extra power adapter with a quality dock means I have a reliable, single-cable connection to everything on my desk, which is awesome. And still have a power brick for another favored home station. (Other people might also use it for travel.) The convenience of quickly relocating because of the single cable to dock is undeniable. Too bad they’ll probably require a second cable for a second external display, assuming the imminent successor models support two external displays at all.
i got a pair of fake airpods pro, they would slow my phone to a crawling halt whenever i used them on my iphone. connected them to a 2015 kyocera and they worked fine.
Many years ago my old work provided unibody Macbook, ended up somewhat soft bricked from just installing native EFI Ubuntu on it. It would take multiple attempts to POST. I've only used Macs when they're provided, as Apple is one company that will never get money from me. It feels like the ways in which Apple devices break just become increasingly more asinine as time passes.
This is like buying a high end sports car and throwing it out because the brakes need changing. Good job Apple. I'm due for a major upgrade in my studio... Not sure I'll stick with macs.
As long as it's not audio you should be switching to Windows/x86 machines anyway, especially for stuff that is going to be bolted down. Windows is audio hell though. Simply because of Microsoft not giving enough of a shit.
It's not too great on the PC side either right now. However, not because of sh*t like that, but shortages and scalpers. Though, knowing Apple "premium" prices, wouldn't be surprised if it still ended up more economical...
Do you realize a brake job on a new Porsche Cayenne with carbon ceramic brakes can be over $32,000? It won't be too long until a brake job mechanically totals the vehicle when it depreciates.
I've always hated how Apple gets so many things right that almost all other companies just fail at, but at the same time gets few of the most important aspects wrong making all the good things pointless
if there's one upside to longevity of their products its that they're very reliable both in software as well as physically and mechanically so the chance of needing to replace a bad part is very rare. that being said its still no excuse to solder every component to the board
Gotta love that apple ingenuity to make a device without any moving parts make clicking sounds. Anyway, that's again just another of the same old same old Apple, what a shocker it would be if one day they changed for the better...
@@guiorgy to be clear here would it be better if it would remain dead without making any noise? This might very well be by intention to be able to diagnose a certain issue…
Let’s see how they’d deal with new EU legislations that electronics should be reparable for 10 years and be able to be disassembled with normal tools:)
You need just screwdriver to dissasemble MBA. You can, for sure reapir it if drive will fail, you just have to replace whole board, which is really tiny in MBA M1. So even that legislation is not applied yet and we do not know if it will in future, they are ready
they get creative like with lightning (which they don't wanna abandon because of the very profitable licensing model of it) EU is forcing all devices to have a USB (C) connector in a nearer future so what is apple heading for? no connector at all;)
@@pineappleroad They probably just didn't think of that when the started working on the law. But honestly at some point I gotta say, it's not the EU's duty to make Apple more user friendly. If this law comes and every other company except apple uses the USB c port for the phones in the EU then the only resolution of that can be: Don't buy from apple:P
Some guys, trying to make Linux work on the M1 Macs, started to reverse engineer the M1 architechture as much as possible. They’ve found out, that the SSD drives although use the NVMe protocol to communicate, the SSD is not connected to the SoC using PCIe. They mention some “direct-mapped” layout for the storage. If I understand correctly, this means that the SSD is part of the memory address space of the CPU. That could explain a few things: 1: The disapperance of the T2 chip with the M1, as in later Intel Macs, this chip was used as the disk controller. 2: The soldered-on SSD form factor is now seems as a nessesity, as direct-mapping the SSD would be impossible via PCIe. 3: The excessive wear of the SSDs can be easily explained if the CPU can just simply address the drive and use it as it would be DRAM. (For example, when using a page file, you can work now with the paged memory if it would be in the RAM, at the cost of slower speed, and more data written to the drive. Speed is not a big concern here I think, a modern NVMe drive can easily perform as well as a DDR2 RAM would back in the day, but SSDs don’t like this much write rates this high this fast…) If it is really designed this way, this is the next level of planned obselence. These machines will KILL their SSDs in max 3-4 years. Not from malfunction, not from software bugs, but from the way that the architechture is designed.
To point 2: It's not a neccessity to have soldered on ssd chips regardless. Sure, you couldn't use a regular PCIe interface with that architecture. But if Apple was willing to, they could've designed replacable chips with some form of connector. The problem is, as always, that Apple doesn't care about anything other than profit margin.
At least you can still replace the battery, with a soldered ssd you need a guy like Louis (Paul)... And even then the T2 chip might complain and refuse to work.
@@luqmanhamdan9285 Today yes. Once upon a time it was possible to put the max ram a cpu could use at the fastest speed it could use, directly onto the motherboard. Of course that was 30+ years ago. Now storage that's fixed like that probably hasn't been a good idea in 50+years.
Yes! Love my 'cheesegrater' & just upgraded it with more RAM, SSD, Metal GPU & new faster Xeons! 🚀 Coupled my 2012 MBP with 8 ports and replaceable battery, RAM and SSD these are really the best and last of the repairable and upgradeable Mac's! 😀😢
@@binaryboyo9674 Exactly, those Macs are so well build. I mean they can handle TH-cam, games and Photoshop no problem, what more can you ask for, really last of Steve’s Macs. You know what I mean...
@@binaryboyo9674 Mine is a slightly worse model.... late 2013 retinal,,, but at least the SSD is replaceable and batteries can be repaired by taking it to third party repair who know what the fuck they are dong.. and dont damage the computer taking the battery out... I do have a 2009 MacBook, also , which Is handy to have... I suppose... it can run mavericks which is good... but it is running snow leopard. Probably the price of the 2012 MacBooks are going to go up... when the 2021 ones are trash.
I have a mid 2009 MacBook Pro and that laptop is a gem. I have upgraded the memory replaced the battery and installed an SSD and it still works better than new with all my upgrades. I also installed an updated OS High Sierra using DosDude’s update utility.
Hey! unrelated Fun-Fact: in Germany, we got a Drugstore-chain called "Rossmann", their logo has a Centaur in the "o" because Rossmann means "Horse-man" in german.
Lol. I’m getting 10+ hours on M1 MacBook Pro using Chrome, Slack, Music, and other miscellaneous apps. Considering how many likes you got, this guy’s audience really has never tried a MacBook. You are just coming here to see an adult saying how stupid Apple customers are and feel good about yourself. Nice.
Preach, brother. My ASUS Zenbook is 1) 5 years old and still fine, based on drive monitoring tools it has years and years of life left; 2) is held together by torx (not glued) and it uses a standard 2280 B-key socket if you do unscrew the bottom shell. Even the WiFi chip is socketed and swappable.
Similar experience with my chromebook from five years ago. I'm currently using it with a swapped wifi card, a swapped SSD (just a 2242, but it was still easy to find a replacement that's bigger than the included 16 GB), and the firmware has been flashed to a standard UEFI so I could install windows on it after google turned evil and started to put more and more annoying crap in the OS because they now have different plans. Would still be rocking that device, only upgraded because I found something better, not because it broke.
@@Alfalfa88888 I had a Sony Vaio computer that lasted from 2002 to 2014. And the main reason I ditched it was 32 bit support starting to die off. It probably could have lasted a little longer.
I genuinely love how you give your opinion and it's scary how it feels like you're reading my mind and saying exactly what I feel but you're a step ahead of me since you actually make the videos and even have it posted before. I use a laptop from 2012 and I'll continue to use it until it breaks or absolutely needs to be upgraded.
Watching Louis helps me control the impulse of me getting into the hype of owning Apple products. Lots of my friends have them. I've listened to my friends complaining about these machines for a long time so there's no real reason to get it unless you wanna throw away your money.
That's right, don't be fooled by its apparent symmetry. USB connectors are known for actually being 4-dimensional, so that when you rotate it 360 degrees they look the same but they are not the same, thus not plugging into the port. USB-c just adds more confusion.
@@lake258 sometimes, when you use something for a very long time, it won't work as intended you know, i have a usb C cable that only fast charging if you insert it the right way
I'm in CS research where macs are pretty common. Someone I work with bought the new MBP and he literally had to give a warning at the beginning of the meeting recently that his laptop would probably crash. Think different.
@@RandomUser2401 you are the troll with no brain. CS researchers use all kinds of OSes. Usually Linux. But they need MacOS as well to do their testing on all platforms. That's how it works. I've been in IT engineering. Anyone with a mac as their personal computer is seen as a brainless simpleton. The only place a Mac is even mildly acceptable is if you are in video or audio production.
@@RandomUser2401 "this person knows their shit and they use a windows laptop, they're ignorant" "this person knows their shit and they use a mac, anyone who doesn't also do so is ignorant" I guess that's what think different means, it's code for "you should have a double standard"
@@RandomUser2401 I'm a professional programmer. I use macs.... because it's a mainstream OS i cna use for general purpose and not have to tinker with stuff... UNTIL i want to, and then i have linux. Windows 10 SUCKS for development. The linus subsystem SUCKS for any realistic use case. It's just better to use a mac.... EG: I have a late 2013 macbook pro retina 15inch that i essentially fully repaired, and it's a workhorse -- even if it doesn't boast the best benchmarks. I can run a handful of VMs, IDEs, debuggers, and play ut99, with little issue.... On my 2018 windows laptop from my work with a 3 generation newer i5, 8gb ram, and faster ssd? It crawls in any workload.... And the screen looks like trash.
Man Alive, I'd forgotten about that one. Talk about having the brass balls to make that declaration with a straight face. Talk about the Cult of Apple that took that orally and rectally and said, "Sounds good to me!"
"how long do you expect it too last?" I've had my non-mac laptop since 2011. Use it for a bit of programming, music production, and it used to be the main way to watch videos in my house. I have a working pc I purchased before the finale season of LOST.
I use a 2009 MacBook and a 2011 iMac. Both are used extensively and still work great. They are also reasonably repairable. However, when either becomes too obsolete too use, I would definitely hesitate to get a new Mac due to the built in planned obsolescence of the current models.
Yep I upgraded my 2012 13 inch Macbook Pro from 4 gigs of ram to 16 gigs of ram and from and from a 500 gig spinning platter drive to a 1 tb SSD. Try that wirh a modern "pro" Mac.
Just use a knockoff USB dongle instead ... actually MacBooks used to have a better tolerant USB design.. windows laptops just got trashed bricked and only the USB died in the MacBook , since the USB C has been introduced, MagSafe removed shit has gone from bad to worse... I still cant forget the one university student thought he was clever by trying to charge the MacBook faster by using a power supply for each port.
I just started on a new project and the client provided a laptop with Windows 10... And I am thrust into the blackhole of Windows operating system (and all the security protocols). I love the ease of using a Mac. And I just got a M1 Mac. And the Windows 10 experience reminded me of why I chose a Mac all those years ago. But, yes Mr Rossman, I did learn something from this video and It was informative and I do appreciate your experience, expertise, and honesty. And yes, I would be very pissed off it I cannot repair or upgrade my Mac in 3 to 5 years time. Except thru Apple. I do take your point about the foolishness of soldered SSD, and our Right to Repair, and everything else you said. But given the choices we have (Mac or Windows), we choose what would best serve our needs at the moment. But yeah, videos and information you provide is useful, helpful and informative. Thank you.
Those people are using a wrong dongle, though. They need to throw away that weird rotten apple thing and attach an actual laptop to their USB hubs and docks.
"You use the wrong"... computer with this dongle! (There are production standards(USB!!!), the fact that Apple refuses (it's harder to follow them) is their problem
I will never willingly get an Apple product. While I like the security they claim to protect their customers with, the underhanded repair centers, basically forced cloud storage, and political lobbyist power are absolutely sickening. All that even before factoring in the cost associated to be part of the 'Apple' crowd.
@@RandomUser2401 Have you watched his other videos, or testimonials, or news investigations, undercover reporting at 'genius bars'? Quite often people are told that the data is not recoverable when the device has to be repaired and the only way to keep your photos or information before a repair is to have it cloud saved. That is forcing the customers to use the feature, even if the user would never need to repair the device, because they are told that the data wouldn't be recoverable if something happens. When actually the data most likely can be retrieved, especially if repair centers are allowed to have the tools they need, the parts, and the schematics. Hell, Apple even bans its users who talk about recovering data without the cloud save.
@@RoseKindred I simply do a daily backup to a NAS at home. TimeMachine, a handy little tool that has been around for almost two decades, free and built-in with macOS, no internet connection required. Are you serious? No one forces you to use any cloud at all, and even less so Apples cloud. If you want to back up your stuff to another cloud, you are completely free to do so.
@@RoseKindred I'm not from the US, I've been once to the genius bar (not for me, just to keep company for a friend) like 2/3 years ago, and yes, they suggested to backup the device, but on the computer, because my friend doesn't use iCloud
A few months ago I replaced a battery in a late 2011 MBP - All I needed to do was unscrew the cover, unscrew the battery (two screws here), replace it and put the whole thing back together. Also I could've replaced the HDD along the way if I wanted to, because it was so easy to access. Total cost of materials - $40. I don't even count labour because first of all I was doing this as a favour, second I think I was done in 10 minutes or so. They don't make them like they used to.
Yes, the amazing contrast to Apple devices now compared to what they had in a commercial ages ago. Where during the commercial they were taking their machine apart piece by piece to show how modular and repairable it is. Hmm, could be interesting to recreate that in a modern macbook. Like hang on, lemme get this open. Need the right screwdriver. *waits for a custom order* alright I'm in, next is the SSD. Lemme get the soldering iron. Okay, ram... Same thing. What's up next? The CPU? uuuuh... *just burns it and smashes it with a hammer* There we go, in pieces, just like the original.
Google is the company of tomorrow. Why? In the same way Apple used to provide k-12 schools with Apple computers for computer labs.... You now have Google Gsuite in the k-12 education space. Tons of kids are using chromebooks, google docs, gmail, etc. And that's what they will know when they leave school. You don't see Apple in the k-12 space anymore
@@ATCrogerwilco not to mention it's soooo much cheaper for school districts to get 500 chromebooks as opposed to 500 desktop iMacs that kids can't take home with them
@@jhoughjr1 if it only couses issues on Apple laptops it is something to worry about.and they only get away with such behaviour because of fan boys that accept everything from them....
Soldered SSD? There is something extremely wrong in the heads of this company as a whole and very much individually. Screw them! I am so happy I never jumped on board their bandwagon. But, unfortunately, other companies are starting to follow in their footsteps. This is sickening to say the least.
@@SHUTENSEPC The OS works just fine on conventional socketed NVMe drives on the Mac Pro. It's just Apple stopping me from buying a cheap machine and stuffing it full of RAM and HDD. It's over $1,000 less to add 2tb and 64gb to your own laptop.
I've had my Dell XPS for 7 years now. I still love it. Of course, I bought i7 with 32GB RAM, to future proof it. If the drive fails, I can replace it. If I only bought that T5 Torx screwdriver...
@@presario4255 Yup, my grandpa's pc stopped booting so i pulled the drive and sure enough it still works. Not sure how old it is, oldest files are 1996.
I'm willing to buy any dead M1 Macbook pro for $40 that you paid $1400 a few months ago. Cause when you take it back to the Apple store and they told you the clicking is caused by an user error. This is a limited time offer.
@@jhoughjr1 The USB-C spec has a huge amount of protection built in due to the bidirectional multi-voltage charging capability. It's the vehicular equivalent of cracking the chassis over a 5mph fender-bender. Install some goddamn bumpers. Also, they were on the NHTSA panel that requires 5mph bumpers. They just...didn't.
This is insane! If my SSD was writing that much data and I couldn’t control it I would be absolutely furious. I’m glad I started with windows 3.1 and haven’t switched. Even though a Mac is the “cool” thing to have.
@@carbonstar9091 to be honest that’s very wrong. Sure most people use their browser and maybe office and that’s it. But many people need a powerful laptop which holds up as long as possible on battery. The “it’s faster than last year” joke is funny since they say that every year but yeah it’s actually a substantial improvement… And “synthetic Benchmarks” bs is worthless. You shouldn’t trust one Benchmark alone but if you want to test the performance of the machine you need to Benchmark it. Geekbench won’t show you everything. Cinebench won’t show you everything. But adding 4-5 Benchmarks and using all of them gives you a good indication of the real world performance. If you don’t care about performance fine… But considering how Apple got grilled for their bad cooling and the throttling issues it’s a bit dumb to now say performance doesn’t matters… performance matters and Apple should be criticized for dumb stuff but shouldn’t be criticized for actually good stuff…
@@S1893-0 things don't really get slow, but people's expectations of technology keep increasing, as well as how much companies rush their design and engineering teams to get products out the door without proper testing. The end result of which is that you get promised a revolution... That feels more like a half hearted sigh because no one could be bothered implementing the new stuff properly. Then this stuff reaches the mainstream by which time out is already obsolete according to the folks on the cutting edge.
@@carbonstar9091 sure but making a laptop more powerful isn’t marketing bs in the first place and has its right to be called out. And using this as an argument to sell the most devices possible is fine too. Do people buy computers with more performance than they need right now yes. Many do. But on the other side those people will be able to use the device longer without having issues with performance. This is not a question if a pc gets too slow some time. It’s just a question of when with software using more and more resources with time…
@@xmlthegreat to be honest I don’t get how that is relevant to the m1 here. Apple tested them since 2016 before implementing them now, they are industry leading now for thin and light laptops in terms of performance and battery… the m1 MacBook is the best value MacBook we’ve seen forever. And to be honest the things Louis mentions are also only partly right. The ssd write stats are flawed since the entire tool doesn’t really work on the m1 as of yet. So dying ssds are not worse than previous MacBooks and the dongle thing is being worked on and only occurred to some few… all in all it’s one of the best products Apple made got a long time and by far the best Mac they made in the last 10 years…
Yeah when I saw the specs, and the initial reviews with the insane performance, and how the 8gig model performed almost as well as the 16gig model, my first thought was "shit that's gotta be RAM caching to the SSD like crazy!". You know what the dumbest thing about my 2015 MacBook Pro is? I was able to upgrade the SSD, but basically you get to open the thing up one, maybe two times before the !@#$%^ing screws holding the case on strip! I know Apple would rather people never tried to open the things, but seriously there's no need for self-destructing screws!
My grandma has a really old dell laptop, she doesn't care about the speed or anything. Though it's not really up to today's standards it's super reliable and when something is broken, it's a pleasure to fix.
Those things are really cool from a repair man point of view. Need to do something with RAM? Take one screw out and you have perfect access. Same thing for the HDD. If only i could upgrade the cpu on it...
@@RoseKindred actually.. fans are the main reason for dust and other things to enter the machine. I’m pretty sure the closed phone designs are more durable in general than the open laptop ones. So the statement isn’t entirely true. And having a silent computer is nice too
@@mikeymaiku on Intel machines cooling was bad yes. For the m1 that statement is wrong. Cooling on the MacBook Pro and Mac mini are even overpowered for the chip and mostly don’t even turn on and the chip will never throttle. The MacBook Air does throttle but after 3 minutes of full load. For the benefit of a silent computer that only slows down 10%-15% in minutes of full load that’s rather fine… and actually if you connect the m1 cooling metal with the body of the m1 you get full performance like on the pro. You get a hotter computer overall tho. Linus made a video about it that shows it. Cooling was bad for a while. And cooling is still not awesome. But the chip is way cooler than the Intel ones and now they get away with that easily… And the m1 Macs aren’t that expensive to be honest. Performance is very good, build quality is very good. Keyboard is now good and reliable, Trackpad is industry leading, screen is good and battery is industry leading and all that in very thin and light machines. For 1000-1200$ you’ll have to search a while to find a Windows ultrabook doing all of that. On the counter side the m1 Macs are still very bad to repair. But yeah unlike Louis most people doing focus on repairability and upgradability that much since they lack the skills and the knowledge to do it anyway. Doesn’t mean it’s not important, accepting that Macs absolutely compromise on those things and taking in mind the good things about it is a fair decision basis. People needing repair ability and upgrades just shouldn’t buy Macs since Apple is one of the worst companies in that field. Different people need laptops with different compromises easy as that
10 years is great. My Lenovo Y510p lasted 8 years, and I was satisfied. If a computer doesn't last at least 5 it better have been cheap, or there is something wrong with the design.
@@jhoughjr1 I was responding to OP, I didn't see your message. Some devices can indeed catch fire because of a faulty design. When I bought my MacBook Pro back in 2015 I only had it for a few weaks and my charger made a loud 'POP' w/ a flash out of nowhere. Charger was dead. Judging by the sound, flash and smell a capacitor blew out for some reason. I took it back to the store and instead of them simply giving me a replacement charger, they had to 'send it in for repairs' or something dumb. I had an important exam later that day and I couldn't work without a working charger. Great customer service, right? I ended up buying some little MagSafe to MagSafe 2 converter plug from a different stores that sells refurbished Apple products. I used my old charger to overcome the issue. Needless to say I'm glad that I switched back to PC, so I can just fix my own stuff instead of having to rely on Apple's 'customer service' ;-)
@@jhoughjr1 In the past Apple products were a great choice for professionals because of their reliability. It's been the industry standard for music production for a good reason: it simply worked. Apples computers gave superior performance both in their efficiency (sofware/hardware optimization) and their stability/reliability. Some of the older machines still do a great job, for sure. However, there's been this push towards putting all kinds of dumb extra stuff in these machines that nobody needs, bad thermal design, bad overal product design and both the stability and lifespan of these products is suffering. Steve Jobs was a crook, but at least he overcharged you for a solid product. After he died and Tim Cook took over, there seems to have been a shift in the company's focus. Prices have gone up, lifespan and reliability have gone down. In the meantime, both hardware and software have been getting better optimization for Windows. Now we're at a point where many music industry professionals are switching to PC because Apple simply doesn't offer something that PC doesn't, except a familiar OS. It's just not worth the upcharge anymore. The 'Apple Tax' used to be worth it, but at this point I strongly doubt I'll ever go back to Apple.
Because most of their user base won’t use those ports anyway. Like, I love my cabled internet connection, but I understand why they are removing ethernet ports from laptops... Even usb-sticks are now really obsolete.
@@TH-camAIbot Daily, dozens of times. Music equipment, memory cards, cameras, cd rom drive, extra monitors, iems, mouse, gaming peripherals, wired arctis pro headset, wired internet connection, vr setup, the list goes on.
For the people saying that consumers should know what the devices are meant for and therefore Apple is not at fault, I would like to point out that a large portion of the marketing for the M1-equipped products was about how great they are for video rendering and editing, which is about as write-intensive as workloads get. So claiming that it's not intended for this many writes isn't a valid argument. For the people who will still say that most professional video editors will be rendering off of an external server, keep in mind that Apple doesn't offer any configurations with LAN faster than 1 gigabit, and the lack of thunderbolt ports means that 10 gigabit ethernet isn't an option. And as we saw in this video, a third party ethernet adapter isn't a good idea, either.
These talks of yours work very well to prevent me from upgrading the gear I have and that works just fine. iPhone8, Macbook Air from 2017. I'll just ride them out for all they are worth.
The tragic is that the clicking sound was a short circuit somewhere, I wish it was a breaker. How are there people still buying Mac Desktop computer or Laptops is incomprehensible is worse that being fixed on your dose (sorry I went a bit far)
Depends on what they wind up saying about schematic availability for users or technicians. If they say no then they're the same as everyone else. We'll see.
This video just sold me on going with a different laptop. I was concerned with the RAM caching on the SSD but didn't realize how much it would actually write to the drive. Only issue is that almost all laptops besides Apple are backordered for 1-3 months and I need something quicker than that....and as always, I learned something.
@@alexbloomberg4221 So, means its exactly both the comment and Louis said: the machine is faster. Which is to be expected, it would be sad if the thing would be slower or has has less capabilities than the previous generation.
Before the M1 you people couldn't shut up about how horrid the performance and thermals was on Macs. Apple not only fixes both issues but now exceeds even gaming laptops in performance and now you brush it off like its some 5% generational improvement that happens whenever Intel releases a new 14nm+++++++++ cpu.
there hasn't been a single Apple computer over the last decades without a 3.5mm. I know these are inconvenient facts for the blind Apple haters, I know facts are in general hard to grasp for you, but you have to be strong and hold tight with me on this one.
@@RandomUser2401 lol buddy this is the same company actively removing the 3.5mm jack from their products. So you can take your smug bullshit and shove it right up your ass.
@@xmlthegreat here we go - inconvenient facts. You confirm this again by saying they removed it from "their products", while this is simply not true for a lot of them. As I said, for people like you it is very hard to accept facts that don't fit their own delusional views.
You are the best, all the other youtubers are in love with the M1's... all the reviews are exactly the same. I've watched and read many reviews and haven't heard about the USB-C hub issue until now and this is a major issue, an actual "applegate".
MacUser: "I settle for Apple, because it's despite to Windows and Linux a reliant system." - also: "Who uses a PC x years old!?" Me on my 8 years old Workstation/Gaming PC (OCed 4770K/1070/16GB) still capable running everything at max w/ minor expense upgrades: "I dunno?" Not to speak of that Toshiba Satellite for vintage gaming from the stone age... Oh, and the reason why I ended up at @Louis Rossmann: Because the MacBook Pro of my g/f died - and I needed some (hard to find) advice on board repair.
I was using a 3rd gen i5 until about 6 months ago... On my 2nd gen era motherboard. Still got a GTX 960... Was aiming to buy a 3070 by Christmas... Should have bought the 1660 Super when I had the chance. 😟
@@tin2001 Yeah, that'll be a long time until a 3070 and others will be in store anywhere.😂 Maybe try winning the lottery first, better channces. And you won't mind then to buy one off some scalpers/miners.
Yeah.. In 2016 I bought an old computer that had a regular MB with an i5 4460. I put it in a different case, added a gtx 1060 and that was it for about a year. Then I wanted a better cpu so I bought an i7 4470 from a different country (still in the EU) for 200€. It came in a padded letter like packaging (you probably know what I mean. ) The only new things about the computer are: The case, the power supply, more ram and an ssd. I am even using 2 of the old HDDs. One is a 2 TB WD HDD that stores everything. Whoever tells me that they are afraid of buying second hand components or computers I just laugh in their face. Of course, it is a risk, not to be taken lightly. But still, you buy old cars which are basically old moving parts. Modern electronics are good enough. If I am not satisfied, I will just buy a better GPU because CPUs are good enough. I have a 1080p monitor so even if I buy a second hand gtx 1070 I will be fine.
@@podolanko7 Ah forgot to mention that: Upgraded over the years the main drives also to SSD. Of course that gave a big, still cheap boost. Totally agree with you - the only thing I bought new back was the board and the RAM, because that I couldn`t re-use. The CPU was back then already three years old and I got it new, but discounted. Put all my old TB in that machine and my old 660. w/o greedy miners 😂 I'd upgraded my GPU much earlier, so I did it when mining went temporarily downhill some years ago. Since I don't need to edit that many videos for work and most shooters are still running fine @max (not ultra, but often close) and 40 - 90 fps... Was so "shocked" when I, with that attitude, wanted to replace the logicboard of my g/f (5 years old!) Mac: "WTF, I could build a new machine for that!". And how cheap, if you don't count the labour, the replacement of some chips (corrosion of LCD power unit) was.
No, you’ll be buying a whole new logic board, which is almost as expensive as a new machine, which will therefore seem pointless, so you buy a new machine anyway. The logic board on my last macbook air died. Could not afford to replace it, so I waited another couple years with a machine that kept crashing until I had scraped enough money together to build a hackintosh 🤷♀️ I’m generally pleased that they finally solved the heat issues with M1, but the soldered on ssd is a big fat no for me!
@@LillySchwartz Why, you can resolder new chips on board. It is doable even at home with proper equipment and experience. I bet that there will be many companies offer that, but.. When it will fail? My MBA with 8GB RAM does about 20-30GB wirtes per day, same as my PC with 32GB did. So even with reserve I talking about 12TBW/year with average 150TBW guarantee on todays SSDs, it will last for 12 years. And with reach that TBW it does not stop work. I bought 7yrs old Windows refubrished laptop, was running with 4GB RAM so it swaps a lot. And hey 170TBW on 128GB SSD which still runs pretty well. I do not mid if drive in MBA M1 will last "only" 12years, I guess 12 years from now, it will not exists - refubrished or recycled. For supre if someone will take that machine and will use it as NAS cache, for server, for heavy work with big files (transfering lot of data) or will do a lot of multitasking with memory heavy apps, yes, it can fail quckly, same as many other machines with similar workload
@@jirikocman Did you watch the video? Apparently the 8GB model swaps like crazy under normal circumstances without heavy loads. This is precisely the problem with it. As for re-soldering chips: Again, did you watch the video? If the company producing these chips is not allowed to sell them to anyone but Apple - a likely scenario - there won't be any chips available to re-solder even if someone has the equipment to solder SMD components. I do lots of electronics DIY projects and even I don't have a reflow oven or a heat gun that gets hot enough. I tried soldering SMD stuff with a soldering iron once and it was just disastrous 😬None of my SSDs have failed so far, but I make sure it doesn't swap like crazy.
@@jirikocman apple new MacBooks are junk and not all ssd gonna last 12 years that's the better case scenario and soldering at home chips is a big no people will have to use usb name and load from that...
I am so depressed about this subject. I depend on the tools of the OS. I like the experience of the OS. I have never liked the hardware experience for decades. I have not had a good experience with an SSD on an old HP laptop that had Ubuntu. I have been lazy about coding. I try to imitate my Mac experience. I realize that I must “Think Differently” when it comes to Linux distros. I am looking to go back on eBay for a Thinkpad but no Unbuntu. Maybe Mint ot Pop!_OS. Thank you LR for your insightful videos over the years.
I thought that M1 Macbook is “incredible value” that is the mantra of EVERY BIG CHANNELS on youtube! And no one talking about this!! The same people that says Mac will last longer than a PC!
Fact is that for 99% people it does last longer and than most pc’s heck im using a 9 year old imac. My pc has been dead and unusable for a few years. I dont have an m1 mac but it does seem to be good value for the price. I have been looking for a new windows machine for a wile now and honestly havent found one that ticks all the boxes. Battery life + power.
This is exactly the contrarian view point I was looking for when it comes to the M1 Macs. I am torn, man. As a video editor, final cut on the M1 looks as flawless as I can imagine video editing to be (at the just-passed-amateur level that I consider my skillsets to be in). Even from a non video editing standpoint, I am blown away by the battery and power consumption stats. But then I see this, and I remember why I have a love hate relationship with Apple. All they have to do is to signal an intent to decrease e-waste by making upgrading simple with their product architecture, and I will happily jump to their corner. As it is, I am happy with my patchwork of eco-systems that I use in order to get my computing work done, instead of just relying on Apple to do everything for me. Thanks for doing what you do, Louis.
Buy it 20 hour battery life and barely any fan noise is more than worth it. Ssd will last a long time unless you’re moving terabytes of data a month. A lot of fear mongering. iPhones and iPad have soldered on memory and they last years on end. Plus if you look around you can find the m1 pro for £1000 sealed.
Hoping you will be making more videos on the current New Rent situation, particularly how the Eviction Moratorium is affecting the market now for both Tenants and Landlords. I'm doing all I can to educate the public but we need more people like you with a large audience to speak up. PS, Apple sucks
I don't think anyone has any misunderstandings about what kind of a clusterf**k is headed for America in this department, this is an obvious problem that everyone can see no matter their values, ideology, politics, etc. It's fun to watch Louis rant about things, but landlords, tenants, banks, politicians, homeowners, workers, the unemployed...everyone knows this is about to be a huge problem, there isn't an awareness problem on this issue that I can see. The problem is that there's no easy solution that will make everyone happy, lots of people will be screwed from every group I've mentioned.
@@uttcftptid4481 Its already become a big problem and has become an issue for many who talk about it. I lost about 2/3rds of my subscribers since I started talking about the Eviction Moratorium. Louis can get away with talking about it more, because his audience loves his rants
@@NickSakalis yeah Louis has done something that most TH-cam creators can't get away with, and that is build a channel that covers many unrelated topics, and he does it in a way that attracts more people than he drives away. If you've dedicated your own channel to one certain thing and built an audience that is only there for that thing, trying to include other topics can have huge affects on audience retention. You'll drive away some, and attract others who are interested in the new topic, but won't care about your main videos. I'm sorry you lost so many subs, perhaps those people subbed to your channel because you were offering videos that let them escape from having to think about the real world problems, and if that's the case, bringing up those problems they were enjoying not have to think about for a few minutes can be detrimental.
My channel started as a ridiculous variety show so discussing other topics doesn't affect it. It really is ridiculous that this has 1.53 million subscribers, should be 10-20k max.
@@rossmanngroup I'm glad you're around and doing your thing.. I might not always agree with your opinions, but I appreciate and respect your Unfiltered and Unapologetic approach.
@Adam A-K if you say so, i’d much rather use a very specific device for what I’m doing on the go. Ie: an Actual camera for pictures and videos. A Voice recorder for Voice capture, etc. I find less goes wrong if it’s kept simple.
I still use my 2015 MacBook Pro (13 inches) I just ordered a 512Gb fledgling ssd and will be installing it. I hate not being able to upgrade my own property
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3:41 I love this one dude, the very first comment instructed you to lie to apple's technician. Bro, when the customer have a valid complain/problem but have to lie about it to get it fixed, the company have some problems, I JUST SAYIN !
I had a buddy who worked at a apple certified store that closed down at the end of last year unfortunately. He helped me and my friends get replacements for our phones when they broke. He would tell us to book an appt online and say x and it would qualify for some replacement program apple ran under the radar. I dropped a 20 lb metal cable attachment at the gym on my iphone x and it totally killed the top 20% of my screen's ability to detect touch. Hit up my buddy and was able to get a new screen and even a screen protector for free. Gonna miss that.
I remember when the U in USB stood for universal
LMAO
bruh...
What about USB-C?
Pepperidge Farm does too, LOL.
Holy shit you right🤣
whenever I start loving my MacBook little too much, I come and watch Louis's videos, brings me back to reality.
Dang
That's actually kinda smart.
Should throw it away
NOICE 👍👍
@Peter Pan Craple Is almost as baD as the usual Libturd 🖕🖕
whenever I start looking for any MacBook to buy, I come and watch Louis's videos, which brings me back to reality.
The answer has always been "none, get virtually any laptop instead"
I recognize we've all come accept a LOT of shit as normal these days, but a soldered-on SSD puts a hard finite limit on the life of a very expensive purchase. I just can't understand why anyone would think this is OK. Yeah, I know it's been going on for a few years.
@@RandomUser2401 yes, as long as it looks good, thats the iSpirit
@@MiguelY22 that's why us tech savvy people need to keep making sure we let them know. Just tell them exactly what apple tells them... That their data can't be saved in case anything happens.
I talked a friend out of buying this using that exact tactic.
@@RandomUser2401 I will take function over form any day. You are welcome to your shiny paperweights, you apple troll.
I can see all the comments you've made, moron. Even apple trolls are low quality.
@@xmlthegreat As I said, you are free to buy outdated bulky brick-style laptops where everything is modular. I prefer thin & lights and to actually backup my data regularly, like every sane user does.
@@dj78productions no. Looks actually come in last on my priorities list. But people like you are simply unable to mentally grasp any features other than naked performance numbers on paper and modularity. You are unable to comprehend the tradeoffs a majority of the users is willing to do - hint: these tradeoffs have nothing to do with looks.
My wife has a 2012 a1278. She wanted to get a new Mac and I cautioned her against after watching your channel for a long time and hearing about all of the issues with Macbooks. We decided to upgrade the hard drive and ram, and replace the battery on her existing machine. Now she loves the refurbished machine and we kept thousands of dollars out of Apples hands!
Very smart move. I've done the same and the 2012 MBP I'm using is perfectly serviceable for most everyday things. Sure, it's going to struggle with anything heavyweight but that's a small price to pay.
great choice!
I did the same; am very fond of my 2012 MacBook after the SSD and update the memory.
I would upgrade to an A1502 MacBook Pro. Even though the 8MB or 16MB of RAM is soldiered on, they are reliable and feature the Retina display. It's hard to use any laptop without it. Unfortunately, they're still pretty pricey. Maybe the M1 will bring down the price.
Me too still running that with 16gb of Ram. Worried when it actually kicks the bucket.
Apple: We are not giving you chargers for your phones because we are concerned about sustainability.
Also Apple: All our laptops come with planned obsolescence.
Apple: so we chose to remove all needed ports from our mac's
Also Apple: oh yea and your pc will die if you buy not certified adapter. Have fun
Also Apple: We make our cables incompatible with older bricks so you most likely have to buy a new one which takes up more shipping labor and packaging than including it in one trip and package
Oh and our charger refuses to use industry standards causing more product waste and compatibility issues
My macbook is 5 years old and so far so good, and I use it a lot. My last one lasted 4 years before I left it fall and it broke.... So I think they are good.
@@bauervieira3936 I've had the same Toshiba laptop since 2009 ... The battery just pops out the back get a new one off eBay every 5 years 😆 ... Hasn't ever let me down.
@@andrewshraga7301 Yeah, but I’m not let down either. And I intend to change my mac more often so it doesn’t really matter, specially now since the new macs are so power eficient.
"You used the wrong dongle!"
"You're using it wrong!"
"It's your fault!"
There. Now keep it up, you're doing great, Louis!
@Xi Jinping unreliable as fuck 😂
@Xi Jinping God forbid! I would not touch that thing with a 160 foot pole!
@Xi Jinping it only works in orbit, i.e. The place Apple Maps shows as the middle of the ocean
"You hold the phone on wrong place and now you don't have network"
@Xi Jinping Oh, and how much would that cost? 🤔
Jim Carrey needs to make a movie called "The Repair Guy" and how a guy who lives in Manhattan, New York goes on a murder rampage after not being able to repair laptops anymore.
That would be great
@@maicon9 killdozer was a tool who thought he was 'put on this earth to enact God's wrath' or some dumb shit.
End of the movie we find out he's The Cable Guy's brother
@@enb3810 No, the town destroyed his business so he was getting revenge. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer
@@ravenbarsrepairs5594 1. The entrance to his shop was never blocked off. There are transcripts from multiple civil/court case between him, the concrete plant, and the town and he never mentions anything about his entrance being blocked.
2. His water was never cut off. Period. The problem was his shop didn't have a sewer line or septic when he bought it and he never had either one installed. He had been storing and illegally dumping all of his waste for several years before the city fined him and told him to get his shit (lol) together. This all happened after he had shut down his business and auctioned off his equipment, but he still owned the property.
3. He did end up closing his business, but the city didn't just take it. He sold the property to a trash company for $400,000 (he had bought it for $40,000).
4. Several of the building were inhabited at the start of his rampage, including a local newspaper office and a library that had been hosting a children's reading program.
5. One of the buildings he targeted, Gambles Hardware, was owned by Casey Farrell. He had no known history with Marv Heemeyer. I couldn't find out if they ever reopened, but Farrell said “But I thought ‘Well OK, we’ve got insurance.’ We did. Just not enough.” and the store is currently closed.
6. Another building was of a mayor who had died 3 years prior to his rampage and was home to his 82 year old widow. Kind of a dick move.
TLDR he was a massive tool
Sources:
www.denverpost.com/2018/07/02/fourteen-years-ago-the-bulldozer-attack-on-my-newspaper-in-granby-was-a-warning/
killdozerbook.com/2018/09/bogus-killdozer-youtube-full-of-false-facts/
mountaintownnews.net/2018/02/17/patrick-brower-talks-killdozer-operator-no-hero/
mountaintownnews.net/2014/06/27/granbys-wounds-10-years-day-bulldozer-terror/
archives.durangotelegraph.com/04-06-24/mountain_exchange.htm
www.denverpost.com/2014/06/04/granby-bulldozer-rampage-revisited-ten-years-later/
Soldering an ssd is like welding spark plugs to an engine. Disgusting.
@gmu_alum08 BMW did the same thing
@gmu_alum08 And every 7gtronic 7 speed automatic from Mercedes.
@@erikkovacs3097 yep, 100 thousand miles my ass lol
@@sawyermade5469 Well it turns out that the "lifetime" in "lifetime fill" is about 150,000 miles because that's when the transmission craps out and needs a rebuild. So technically it's true.
@@erikkovacs3097 🤣🤣🤣
Are you serious 🤣 Mr. Rossman exactly at the point where you began to clap, you cut off my bluetooth in my car 🤦🏾♂️ it was way to accurate 😂
Ooh, this is gonna be good
I preemptively like all of his videos and he's never let me down. I love watching him rip Apple a new asshole.
10 minutes later: the only problem with Louis's videos whenever he takes Apple to task is that they're too short. I could do with more smack talk in my day.
I'm getting the popcorn and blankets
@@negative.infinity lmao I actually laughed
Louis smiles and says “hey everybody” and I click like.
So you are the one causing those clicking noises!
OK then.
The nerve of Apple to say "non-compliant" when THEY are the ones being non-compliant to an open and widely used standard. Apple devices are the non-compliant devices
Class action lawsuit by everyone effected for advertising USB ports when they don't conform to the standard... not that it would even make a dent in their margins, but still
Back in the day when Steve Jobs was first getting started he wanted to make it so Apple computers could only receive emails from another Apple Computer (it didn't happen but the mindset was there). Thus 30 odd years later their latest shenanigans don't really surprise whatsoever.
Sad thing is, Apple is the company who popularized USB way back when it first came out. The thing about it is supposed to be ya know.... universal. But you have these Macbooks that become paperweight when you plug in any non Apple dongle.
@@AmaraTheBarbarian Apple's profits are iOS driven, have been for years. Mac is a tiny slice of their bean counter world now, and the people making the design decisions aren't power users of Macs. if they were, no Mac laptop would have soldered down ssd.
What's your source on this? Apple devices are usually pretty standards compliant, but unlike most other manufacturers, they're too cheap/lazy to properly test or build proper safety features for devices that don't rigorously adhere to standards even though such devices are extremely common and still usable provided the PC maker builds in work arounds.
Imagine going to the Mac store with your USBC dongle and just breaking their fucking new m1 Mac on display...
LULZ
Ppl should do that! Go to the store and require a test
@@TechnocraticBushman At which point you demonstrate it works by plugging it in your own older Macbook and...it works.
After Covid, people will go and test their USB devices in the Apple stores in order not to brick their own computers. This will work until Apple blocks the access to the ports.
@@Engineeer That's...absolutely fantastic.
Can't stop people from plugging their hard drive into a laptop without looking awful suspicious.
When they finally go 100% portless, either the non-compliant qi charger or a Bluetooth device will brick it. I'm calling it here lads
Haha 😂
I sure hope nothing goes truly portless, as hardline is always more reliable and lower energy usage. But I’m super old-school, coming from an audio engineering perspective. 😉
WiFi is super convenient, but it’s a waste to blast all that energy into the radio band. And inductive charging is highly inefficient-typically a minimum of 30% of the energy is wasted. If you get power from coal, that’s ~30% more coal burned by using the device.
It was bad enough that they eliminated the 1/8” audio jack, though they did easily clog with pocket lint. Now no dedicated power connector. And my phone’s lightning port already seems to be having some intermittent connectivity issues, 2-years in.
But I got an M1 laptop and I gotta say-not needing an extra power adapter with a quality dock means I have a reliable, single-cable connection to everything on my desk, which is awesome. And still have a power brick for another favored home station. (Other people might also use it for travel.) The convenience of quickly relocating because of the single cable to dock is undeniable.
Too bad they’ll probably require a second cable for a second external display, assuming the imminent successor models support two external displays at all.
@@fosterlewis7360 Wifi uses a few watts at most; not much. Replacing laptops broken when someone tripped over an ethernet cable; substantially more.
i got a pair of fake airpods pro, they would slow my phone to a crawling halt whenever i used them on my iphone. connected them to a 2015 kyocera and they worked fine.
Many years ago my old work provided unibody Macbook, ended up somewhat soft bricked from just installing native EFI Ubuntu on it. It would take multiple attempts to POST. I've only used Macs when they're provided, as Apple is one company that will never get money from me. It feels like the ways in which Apple devices break just become increasingly more asinine as time passes.
@@blkspade23 I'm not doubting you, but....wow, bricked with Ubuntu? What's next? Bricked by a USB peripheral?
Oh, wait. That's exactly what happened.
This is like buying a high end sports car and throwing it out because the brakes need changing. Good job Apple. I'm due for a major upgrade in my studio... Not sure I'll stick with macs.
As long as it's not audio you should be switching to Windows/x86 machines anyway, especially for stuff that is going to be bolted down.
Windows is audio hell though. Simply because of Microsoft not giving enough of a shit.
Highly doubt you’ll switch to windows for audio work lmfao, don’t lie to yourself.
It's not too great on the PC side either right now. However, not because of sh*t like that, but shortages and scalpers. Though, knowing Apple "premium" prices, wouldn't be surprised if it still ended up more economical...
Do you realize a brake job on a new Porsche Cayenne with carbon ceramic brakes can be over $32,000? It won't be too long until a brake job mechanically totals the vehicle when it depreciates.
in typical american fashion one would buy a new car after the ash tray is full.
I've always hated how Apple gets so many things right that almost all other companies just fail at, but at the same time gets few of the most important aspects wrong making all the good things pointless
Youro engrishu gooddo.
if there's one upside to longevity of their products its that they're very reliable both in software as well as physically and mechanically so the chance of needing to replace a bad part is very rare.
that being said its still no excuse to solder every component to the board
Oh shut up you idiot
@@harveygibbons1113, you mean Kinzoku or Ahmad?
@@seriouscat2231 kinzoku
Gotta love that apple ingenuity to make a device without any moving parts make clicking sounds.
Anyway, that's again just another of the same old same old Apple, what a shocker it would be if one day they changed for the better...
No moving parts = no sound you say? Nah, "Think Differently"!
We are talking about Apple, so of course it will click!
Sounds like it pushes power to speakers in order to make a sound. Have a similar sound when I turn on my HP laptop using Linux.
@@guiorgy to be clear here would it be better if it would remain dead without making any noise? This might very well be by intention to be able to diagnose a certain issue…
@@S1893-0 ah yes, the ever-useful debug click. click twice for help!
I always thought ingenuity fits more to soviet engineering.
Let’s see how they’d deal with new EU legislations that electronics should be reparable for 10 years and be able to be disassembled with normal tools:)
You need just screwdriver to dissasemble MBA. You can, for sure reapir it if drive will fail, you just have to replace whole board, which is really tiny in MBA M1. So even that legislation is not applied yet and we do not know if it will in future, they are ready
they get creative like with lightning (which they don't wanna abandon because of the very profitable licensing model of it)
EU is forcing all devices to have a USB (C) connector in a nearer future so what is apple heading for?
no connector at all;)
@@CinceTheDay I kind of wish the EU also prohibited the devices from being portless (so that apple would HAVE to put a usb c port on the devices)
@@pineappleroad They probably just didn't think of that when the started working on the law. But honestly at some point I gotta say, it's not the EU's duty to make Apple more user friendly.
If this law comes and every other company except apple uses the USB c port for the phones in the EU then the only resolution of that can be: Don't buy from apple:P
@@jirikocman if tiny equals inexpensive I’d agree with you. But a $700 repair on a $1200 computer should not qualify as acceptably repairable.
Some guys, trying to make Linux work on the M1 Macs, started to reverse engineer the M1 architechture as much as possible. They’ve found out, that the SSD drives although use the NVMe protocol to communicate, the SSD is not connected to the SoC using PCIe. They mention some “direct-mapped” layout for the storage. If I understand correctly, this means that the SSD is part of the memory address space of the CPU. That could explain a few things:
1: The disapperance of the T2 chip with the M1, as in later Intel Macs, this chip was used as the disk controller.
2: The soldered-on SSD form factor is now seems as a nessesity, as direct-mapping the SSD would be impossible via PCIe.
3: The excessive wear of the SSDs can be easily explained if the CPU can just simply address the drive and use it as it would be DRAM. (For example, when using a page file, you can work now with the paged memory if it would be in the RAM, at the cost of slower speed, and more data written to the drive. Speed is not a big concern here I think, a modern NVMe drive can easily perform as well as a DDR2 RAM would back in the day, but SSDs don’t like this much write rates this high this fast…)
If it is really designed this way, this is the next level of planned obselence. These machines will KILL their SSDs in max 3-4 years. Not from malfunction, not from software bugs, but from the way that the architechture is designed.
Thank you for this deep insight into how Apple designs it's products.
Do you have any link for this?
Interesting! Do you have any sources or links to this?
To point 2: It's not a neccessity to have soldered on ssd chips regardless. Sure, you couldn't use a regular PCIe interface with that architecture. But if Apple was willing to, they could've designed replacable chips with some form of connector. The problem is, as always, that Apple doesn't care about anything other than profit margin.
the ssd wear issues appear to be a software issue - not actually the ssd wearing fast
No fans, no platter hard drive, stills clicks when dead. Think different.....
Concerned about what is clicking ...
Cuzz that might be electrical arching
I have a phone charger (from Aukey), so no moving parts, that after a drop emits a similar click, so it's something in the circuit
I just laugh when louis keeps it real. :)
here is: " clicks different " :-). A feature called 'haptic fatal error clicks'
Soldering the SSD should be an unacceptable design.
It is... Doesn't stop them tho
At least you can still replace the battery, with a soldered ssd you need a guy like Louis (Paul)... And even then the T2 chip might complain and refuse to work.
Soldering storage and RAM is the biggest sin in the computer industry.
For the design is perfect, but usability? nope. Design over function should be new Apple slogan
@@luqmanhamdan9285 Today yes. Once upon a time it was possible to put the max ram a cpu could use at the fastest speed it could use, directly onto the motherboard. Of course that was 30+ years ago. Now storage that's fixed like that probably hasn't been a good idea in 50+years.
My 2010 Mac Pro still works, shame they don’t make em’ like that anymore.
Yes! Love my 'cheesegrater' & just upgraded it with more RAM, SSD, Metal GPU & new faster Xeons! 🚀 Coupled my 2012 MBP with 8 ports and replaceable battery, RAM and SSD these are really the best and last of the repairable and upgradeable Mac's! 😀😢
@@binaryboyo9674 Exactly, those Macs are so well build. I mean they can handle TH-cam, games and Photoshop no problem, what more can you ask for, really last of Steve’s Macs. You know what I mean...
@@binaryboyo9674 Mine is a slightly worse model.... late 2013 retinal,,, but at least the SSD is replaceable and batteries can be repaired by taking it to third party repair who know what the fuck they are dong.. and dont damage the computer taking the battery out... I do have a 2009 MacBook, also , which Is handy to have... I suppose... it can run mavericks which is good... but it is running snow leopard. Probably the price of the 2012 MacBooks are going to go up... when the 2021 ones are trash.
I have a mid 2009 MacBook Pro and that laptop is a gem. I have upgraded the memory replaced the battery and installed an SSD and it still works better than new with all my upgrades. I also installed an updated OS High Sierra using DosDude’s update utility.
2009 15" MacBook Pro with SSD running Catalina, 8 GB RAM, daily driver.
Hey! unrelated Fun-Fact: in Germany, we got a Drugstore-chain called "Rossmann", their logo has a Centaur in the "o" because Rossmann means "Horse-man" in german.
That is indeed unrelated and a fun fact.
Da hast du recht
@kinglol1111 Und du bist jetzt hier gelandet, weil du ein macbook bei Rossmann kaufen wolltest?🤭😋
So are you saying that Louis is hung like a horse? 🐴😂
@@FlyboyHelosim so the myths are true 😮
soldered ssd my god that;s disgusting,. that's like having permanent shoe lases gorilla glued to your shoes.
There’s a girl who already tried using gorilla glue to permanently get a hair style 😂
its more like the shoe only has a 1mm sole. so after you walk a few steps you gotta buy new shoes man.
But that is not only in apple devices , that’s the problem
@@johnsailor3590 It's a lot more acceptable on a $250 potato laptop.
Love it! " I don't use Apple products because I need a computer that works". My thoughts exactly!!!!
Laptop is so fast it dies quicker than the average laptop too.
It is the Usain Bolt of dying.
Lol. I’m getting 10+ hours on M1 MacBook Pro using Chrome, Slack, Music, and other miscellaneous apps. Considering how many likes you got, this guy’s audience really has never tried a MacBook. You are just coming here to see an adult saying how stupid Apple customers are and feel good about yourself. Nice.
@@alexbloomberg4221 he was talking about the device dying after plugging something in, not the battery life
@@alexbloomberg4221 i think he talks about actual dying, not battery time bc you know, it is what the video is about
@@BySqueaZ oh kk
Preach, brother. My ASUS Zenbook is 1) 5 years old and still fine, based on drive monitoring tools it has years and years of life left; 2) is held together by torx (not glued) and it uses a standard 2280 B-key socket if you do unscrew the bottom shell. Even the WiFi chip is socketed and swappable.
Similar experience with my chromebook from five years ago. I'm currently using it with a swapped wifi card, a swapped SSD (just a 2242, but it was still easy to find a replacement that's bigger than the included 16 GB), and the firmware has been flashed to a standard UEFI so I could install windows on it after google turned evil and started to put more and more annoying crap in the OS because they now have different plans. Would still be rocking that device, only upgraded because I found something better, not because it broke.
Soldered RAM on that Zenbook?
5 years? hah, my asus eee pc is 10+ years old. i had to remove dust with canned air once, thats all.
@@Alfalfa88888 I had a Sony Vaio computer that lasted from 2002 to 2014. And the main reason I ditched it was 32 bit support starting to die off. It probably could have lasted a little longer.
@@bufordmaddogtannen Sadly yes. :( It's really common in these ultra-thin laptops.
I genuinely love how you give your opinion and it's scary how it feels like you're reading my mind and saying exactly what I feel but you're a step ahead of me since you actually make the videos and even have it posted before.
I use a laptop from 2012 and I'll continue to use it until it breaks or absolutely needs to be upgraded.
What laptop is it
Watching Louis helps me control the impulse of me getting into the hype of owning Apple products. Lots of my friends have them. I've listened to my friends complaining about these machines for a long time so there's no real reason to get it unless you wanna throw away your money.
Me too
Apples inclusive culture an education in reverse for users.
You inserted the USB C cabel in the wrong way round....
That's right, don't be fooled by its apparent symmetry. USB connectors are known for actually being 4-dimensional, so that when you rotate it 360 degrees they look the same but they are not the same, thus not plugging into the port. USB-c just adds more confusion.
@@lake258 sometimes, when you use something for a very long time, it won't work as intended you know, i have a usb C cable that only fast charging if you insert it the right way
@@nguyentrananhnguyen7900 This is clearly not the case here, you can see for yourself how many posts there are about this issue.
@Clarissa 1986 You do realize these comments are satire right?
Soldered on ssd, there goes my hope of buying used
I'm in CS research where macs are pretty common. Someone I work with bought the new MBP and he literally had to give a warning at the beginning of the meeting recently that his laptop would probably crash. Think different.
and you think CS researchers commonly use Macbooks because they are stupid and have no clue about computers? How ignorant can you be?
@@RandomUser2401 you are the troll with no brain. CS researchers use all kinds of OSes. Usually Linux. But they need MacOS as well to do their testing on all platforms. That's how it works. I've been in IT engineering. Anyone with a mac as their personal computer is seen as a brainless simpleton. The only place a Mac is even mildly acceptable is if you are in video or audio production.
@@RandomUser2401 "this person knows their shit and they use a windows laptop, they're ignorant"
"this person knows their shit and they use a mac, anyone who doesn't also do so is ignorant"
I guess that's what think different means, it's code for "you should have a double standard"
@@xmlthegreat wrong. They use Macbooks as their daily drivers and for SW development. They do not use Macbooks for testing only, this is plain false.
@@RandomUser2401
I'm a professional programmer.
I use macs.... because it's a mainstream OS i cna use for general purpose and not have to tinker with stuff... UNTIL i want to, and then i have linux.
Windows 10 SUCKS for development. The linus subsystem SUCKS for any realistic use case.
It's just better to use a mac.... EG: I have a late 2013 macbook pro retina 15inch that i essentially fully repaired, and it's a workhorse -- even if it doesn't boast the best benchmarks. I can run a handful of VMs, IDEs, debuggers, and play ut99, with little issue....
On my 2018 windows laptop from my work with a 3 generation newer i5, 8gb ram, and faster ssd? It crawls in any workload.... And the screen looks like trash.
"you're holding it wrong"
Man Alive, I'd forgotten about that one.
Talk about having the brass balls to make that declaration with a straight face.
Talk about the Cult of Apple that took that orally and rectally and said, "Sounds good to me!"
People should have chucked their phones at the guy who said that, the moment those words left his mouth.
@@jdhill770 the moment those words left his mouth, his foot goes back in.
Antennagate
Bendgate
Dustgate
Watergate (Airpods condensate water, because, metal!)
An apple “Genius” once told me that the cause of my ipad’s touchscreen issue is that I am holding it with one hand
"how long do you expect it too last?"
I've had my non-mac laptop since 2011. Use it for a bit of programming, music production, and it used to be the main way to watch videos in my house.
I have a working pc I purchased before the finale season of LOST.
I use a 2009 MacBook and a 2011 iMac. Both are used extensively and still work great. They are also reasonably repairable.
However, when either becomes too obsolete too use, I would definitely hesitate to get a new Mac due to the built in planned obsolescence of the current models.
Yep I upgraded my 2012 13 inch Macbook Pro from 4 gigs of ram to 16 gigs of ram and from and from a 500 gig spinning platter drive to a 1 tb SSD. Try that wirh a modern "pro" Mac.
How tf are you still using a laptop from 10 years ago? A 400 dollar laptop from 2020 would be more powerful at this point.
Apple: "We cArE aBoUt ThE eNvIrOnMeNt"
Children in congolese cobalt mines: *inhales*
@ They're playing real-life Minecraft dude.
@@Blownkingg Not really, they haven't gotten to know that black lives matter
@@ChimpOnComputer as if BLM actually did anything of value, its only corporate posturing and hipocrisy, they provide 0 pragmatic solutions
Remember the USB killers that was sold some years back? new macs has that shit built in, no need to go buy such a device no more! :D
Just use a knockoff USB dongle instead ... actually MacBooks used to have a better tolerant USB design.. windows laptops just got trashed bricked and only the USB died in the MacBook , since the USB C has been introduced, MagSafe removed shit has gone from bad to worse... I still cant forget the one university student thought he was clever by trying to charge the MacBook faster by using a power supply for each port.
I just started on a new project and the client provided a laptop with Windows 10... And I am thrust into the blackhole of Windows operating system (and all the security protocols). I love the ease of using a Mac. And I just got a M1 Mac. And the Windows 10 experience reminded me of why I chose a Mac all those years ago.
But, yes Mr Rossman, I did learn something from this video and It was informative and I do appreciate your experience, expertise, and honesty.
And yes, I would be very pissed off it I cannot repair or upgrade my Mac in 3 to 5 years time. Except thru Apple.
I do take your point about the foolishness of soldered SSD, and our Right to Repair, and everything else you said. But given the choices we have (Mac or Windows), we choose what would best serve our needs at the moment. But yeah, videos and information you provide is useful, helpful and informative.
Thank you.
Apple taking the "two to three year lifespan" a bit to literally
Those people are using a wrong dongle, though.
They need to throw away that weird rotten apple thing and attach an actual laptop to their USB hubs and docks.
Fr man, It's common sense. Why would they attatch that apple thingy to the dongle🤦♂️
not gonna lie you had me in the first half
"You use the wrong"... computer with this dongle!
(There are production standards(USB!!!), the fact that Apple refuses (it's harder to follow them) is their problem
I will never willingly get an Apple product. While I like the security they claim to protect their customers with, the underhanded repair centers, basically forced cloud storage, and political lobbyist power are absolutely sickening. All that even before factoring in the cost associated to be part of the 'Apple' crowd.
I now own Apple products for more then 10years and never ever used their cloud for storage - maybe get your facts straight there.
@@RandomUser2401 Have you watched his other videos, or testimonials, or news investigations, undercover reporting at 'genius bars'? Quite often people are told that the data is not recoverable when the device has to be repaired and the only way to keep your photos or information before a repair is to have it cloud saved.
That is forcing the customers to use the feature, even if the user would never need to repair the device, because they are told that the data wouldn't be recoverable if something happens. When actually the data most likely can be retrieved, especially if repair centers are allowed to have the tools they need, the parts, and the schematics. Hell, Apple even bans its users who talk about recovering data without the cloud save.
@@RoseKindred I simply do a daily backup to a NAS at home. TimeMachine, a handy little tool that has been around for almost two decades, free and built-in with macOS, no internet connection required. Are you serious? No one forces you to use any cloud at all, and even less so Apples cloud. If you want to back up your stuff to another cloud, you are completely free to do so.
@@RoseKindred I'm not from the US, I've been once to the genius bar (not for me, just to keep company for a friend) like 2/3 years ago, and yes, they suggested to backup the device, but on the computer, because my friend doesn't use iCloud
Apple security has taken on the 'Windows Vista' model of constant interruption "are you sure? are you sure? are you sure"
3:31 that’s not clicking, that’s Louis sarcastically slow clapping to Apple’s amazing technological achievements
A few months ago I replaced a battery in a late 2011 MBP - All I needed to do was unscrew the cover, unscrew the battery (two screws here), replace it and put the whole thing back together. Also I could've replaced the HDD along the way if I wanted to, because it was so easy to access.
Total cost of materials - $40. I don't even count labour because first of all I was doing this as a favour, second I think I was done in 10 minutes or so.
They don't make them like they used to.
Everytime I walk past an apple store, my wallet starts clicking mysteriously.
Apple started out as the "good guy," and quickly morphed into the face in that famous commercial. You buy Apple and you are just buying a brand.
a sell out you might say
You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain
Very true quote
Yes, the amazing contrast to Apple devices now compared to what they had in a commercial ages ago. Where during the commercial they were taking their machine apart piece by piece to show how modular and repairable it is.
Hmm, could be interesting to recreate that in a modern macbook. Like hang on, lemme get this open. Need the right screwdriver. *waits for a custom order* alright I'm in, next is the SSD. Lemme get the soldering iron. Okay, ram... Same thing. What's up next? The CPU? uuuuh... *just burns it and smashes it with a hammer* There we go, in pieces, just like the original.
Google is the company of tomorrow. Why? In the same way Apple used to provide k-12 schools with Apple computers for computer labs.... You now have Google Gsuite in the k-12 education space. Tons of kids are using chromebooks, google docs, gmail, etc. And that's what they will know when they leave school. You don't see Apple in the k-12 space anymore
@@ATCrogerwilco not to mention it's soooo much cheaper for school districts to get 500 chromebooks as opposed to 500 desktop iMacs that kids can't take home with them
your level of sarcasm gives me life
If I buy a device, I should be able to use whatever dongle I bloody want with it.... So this is why I'd never buy an Apple device.
I agree also a dongle should fail not the computer, also is there not over current protection on apple products?
Same goes for Microsoft tbh
You do not buy Apple devices.
You purchase (shared) use of them, nothing more.
Then why do so many complaints? there are so many phone companies to suit everyone's needs.
@@jhoughjr1 if it only couses issues on Apple laptops it is something to worry about.and they only get away with such behaviour because of fan boys that accept everything from them....
Soldered SSD? There is something extremely wrong in the heads of this company as a whole and very much individually. Screw them! I am so happy I never jumped on board their bandwagon. But, unfortunately, other companies are starting to follow in their footsteps. This is sickening to say the least.
I think the reason behind that is their OS
I wouldn't mind if it were, y'know, a modular mezzanine board or something.
@@SHUTENSEPC All signs point to "nope."
@@jrshaul which one?
@@SHUTENSEPC The OS works just fine on conventional socketed NVMe drives on the Mac Pro.
It's just Apple stopping me from buying a cheap machine and stuffing it full of RAM and HDD. It's over $1,000 less to add 2tb and 64gb to your own laptop.
And people spend an entire paycheck on this shit, what a time to be alive :D
Louis, you're the best.
I've had my Dell XPS for 7 years now. I still love it. Of course, I bought i7 with 32GB RAM, to future proof it. If the drive fails, I can replace it. If I only bought that T5 Torx screwdriver...
y'all taking about diying SSDs and my 2009 hard drive is still alive and rocking
Some HDDs are just unstoppable. I've got a vintage PC in here with a hard drive from 1992... Still going :-)
But it's sooooo slooooow.
@@presario4255 Yup, my grandpa's pc stopped booting so i pulled the drive and sure enough it still works. Not sure how old it is, oldest files are 1996.
Given that M.2 SSD is such a cool little form factor I think it's outrageous they do this.
We need a Louis Rossman workout video, looking absolutely jacked my guy
I'm willing to buy any dead M1 Macbook pro for $40 that you paid $1400 a few months ago. Cause when you take it back to the Apple store and they told you the clicking is caused by an user error. This is a limited time offer.
Apple uses USB-C Standard
Also Apple: You used a non Compliant USB-Device
@@jhoughjr1 The USB-C spec has a huge amount of protection built in due to the bidirectional multi-voltage charging capability.
It's the vehicular equivalent of cracking the chassis over a 5mph fender-bender. Install some goddamn bumpers.
Also, they were on the NHTSA panel that requires 5mph bumpers. They just...didn't.
This is insane! If my SSD was writing that much data and I couldn’t control it I would be absolutely furious. I’m glad I started with windows 3.1 and haven’t switched. Even though a Mac is the “cool” thing to have.
This year's computer is faster than last years computer....
@@carbonstar9091 to be honest that’s very wrong. Sure most people use their browser and maybe office and that’s it. But many people need a powerful laptop which holds up as long as possible on battery. The “it’s faster than last year” joke is funny since they say that every year but yeah it’s actually a substantial improvement…
And “synthetic Benchmarks” bs is worthless. You shouldn’t trust one Benchmark alone but if you want to test the performance of the machine you need to Benchmark it. Geekbench won’t show you everything. Cinebench won’t show you everything. But adding 4-5 Benchmarks and using all of them gives you a good indication of the real world performance. If you don’t care about performance fine…
But considering how Apple got grilled for their bad cooling and the throttling issues it’s a bit dumb to now say performance doesn’t matters… performance matters and Apple should be criticized for dumb stuff but shouldn’t be criticized for actually good stuff…
@Xi Jinping yeah just like 5g you will start caring about it after 3-4 years when things get slow.
@@S1893-0 things don't really get slow, but people's expectations of technology keep increasing, as well as how much companies rush their design and engineering teams to get products out the door without proper testing. The end result of which is that you get promised a revolution... That feels more like a half hearted sigh because no one could be bothered implementing the new stuff properly. Then this stuff reaches the mainstream by which time out is already obsolete according to the folks on the cutting edge.
@@carbonstar9091 sure but making a laptop more powerful isn’t marketing bs in the first place and has its right to be called out. And using this as an argument to sell the most devices possible is fine too. Do people buy computers with more performance than they need right now yes. Many do. But on the other side those people will be able to use the device longer without having issues with performance. This is not a question if a pc gets too slow some time. It’s just a question of when with software using more and more resources with time…
@@xmlthegreat to be honest I don’t get how that is relevant to the m1 here. Apple tested them since 2016 before implementing them now, they are industry leading now for thin and light laptops in terms of performance and battery… the m1 MacBook is the best value MacBook we’ve seen forever. And to be honest the things Louis mentions are also only partly right. The ssd write stats are flawed since the entire tool doesn’t really work on the m1 as of yet. So dying ssds are not worse than previous MacBooks and the dongle thing is being worked on and only occurred to some few… all in all it’s one of the best products Apple made got a long time and by far the best Mac they made in the last 10 years…
I was considering getting one UNTIL I learned about the soldered on SSD. How could you do everything so right yet get one basic thing wrong.
I am looking forward for next year's "a little amount of users experienced ..."
Yeah when I saw the specs, and the initial reviews with the insane performance, and how the 8gig model performed almost as well as the 16gig model, my first thought was "shit that's gotta be RAM caching to the SSD like crazy!".
You know what the dumbest thing about my 2015 MacBook Pro is? I was able to upgrade the SSD, but basically you get to open the thing up one, maybe two times before the !@#$%^ing screws holding the case on strip! I know Apple would rather people never tried to open the things, but seriously there's no need for self-destructing screws!
I check in from time to time to feel the pure unmitigated rage.
My grandma has a really old dell laptop, she doesn't care about the speed or anything. Though it's not really up to today's standards it's super reliable and when something is broken, it's a pleasure to fix.
Those things are really cool from a repair man point of view. Need to do something with RAM? Take one screw out and you have perfect access. Same thing for the HDD. If only i could upgrade the cpu on it...
@@avroskroksthestarfish4495 speaking abt cpu upgrades, in some of the old ones u actually can
It was probably the speakers that were clicking.
Louis admire your passion, skills & right to repair advocacy.
The announcement I read when updating said "non-Apple compliant". AKA, Apple didn't follow the USB standard and wants to blame someone else.
I'm betting on the, "we don't need a fan for this thing that runs on 100 degrees"
Why include fans when they only prolong the life of a device?
@@RoseKindred that was a good one, had me in the first half not gonna lie.
@@RoseKindred actually.. fans are the main reason for dust and other things to enter the machine. I’m pretty sure the closed phone designs are more durable in general than the open laptop ones. So the statement isn’t entirely true. And having a silent computer is nice too
@@S1893-0 so its ok to have a sub par cooling solution on expensive machine? Not surprised your ok with it lol they are litteral pennies.
@@mikeymaiku on Intel machines cooling was bad yes. For the m1 that statement is wrong. Cooling on the MacBook Pro and Mac mini are even overpowered for the chip and mostly don’t even turn on and the chip will never throttle.
The MacBook Air does throttle but after 3 minutes of full load. For the benefit of a silent computer that only slows down 10%-15% in minutes of full load that’s rather fine… and actually if you connect the m1 cooling metal with the body of the m1 you get full performance like on the pro. You get a hotter computer overall tho. Linus made a video about it that shows it. Cooling was bad for a while. And cooling is still not awesome. But the chip is way cooler than the Intel ones and now they get away with that easily…
And the m1 Macs aren’t that expensive to be honest. Performance is very good, build quality is very good. Keyboard is now good and reliable, Trackpad is industry leading, screen is good and battery is industry leading and all that in very thin and light machines. For 1000-1200$ you’ll have to search a while to find a Windows ultrabook doing all of that. On the counter side the m1 Macs are still very bad to repair. But yeah unlike Louis most people doing focus on repairability and upgradability that much since they lack the skills and the knowledge to do it anyway. Doesn’t mean it’s not important, accepting that Macs absolutely compromise on those things and taking in mind the good things about it is a fair decision basis. People needing repair ability and upgrades just shouldn’t buy Macs since Apple is one of the worst companies in that field. Different people need laptops with different compromises easy as that
Bro, you are just holding it the wrong way🤣🤣🤣
10 years . That's how long I I would like them to last.
My 2013 alianware is still going strong.
10 years is great. My Lenovo Y510p lasted 8 years, and I was satisfied. If a computer doesn't last at least 5 it better have been cheap, or there is something wrong with the design.
"You're holding it wrong."
"this year's computer is faster than last year's computer. Good f$cking job!"
Lol
"You bought the wrong product"
Yes you did! The 'wrong product' isn't the USB dongle, though ;-)
@@jhoughjr1 I was responding to OP, I didn't see your message. Some devices can indeed catch fire because of a faulty design. When I bought my MacBook Pro back in 2015 I only had it for a few weaks and my charger made a loud 'POP' w/ a flash out of nowhere. Charger was dead. Judging by the sound, flash and smell a capacitor blew out for some reason. I took it back to the store and instead of them simply giving me a replacement charger, they had to 'send it in for repairs' or something dumb. I had an important exam later that day and I couldn't work without a working charger. Great customer service, right? I ended up buying some little MagSafe to MagSafe 2 converter plug from a different stores that sells refurbished Apple products. I used my old charger to overcome the issue.
Needless to say I'm glad that I switched back to PC, so I can just fix my own stuff instead of having to rely on Apple's 'customer service' ;-)
@@jhoughjr1 In the past Apple products were a great choice for professionals because of their reliability. It's been the industry standard for music production for a good reason: it simply worked. Apples computers gave superior performance both in their efficiency (sofware/hardware optimization) and their stability/reliability. Some of the older machines still do a great job, for sure. However, there's been this push towards putting all kinds of dumb extra stuff in these machines that nobody needs, bad thermal design, bad overal product design and both the stability and lifespan of these products is suffering. Steve Jobs was a crook, but at least he overcharged you for a solid product. After he died and Tim Cook took over, there seems to have been a shift in the company's focus. Prices have gone up, lifespan and reliability have gone down. In the meantime, both hardware and software have been getting better optimization for Windows. Now we're at a point where many music industry professionals are switching to PC because Apple simply doesn't offer something that PC doesn't, except a familiar OS. It's just not worth the upcharge anymore. The 'Apple Tax' used to be worth it, but at this point I strongly doubt I'll ever go back to Apple.
i still can't get over how they thought a spiderweb of wires dongles docks hubs and peripherals all over a desk was a good way to go
Because most of their user base won’t use those ports anyway.
Like, I love my cabled internet connection, but I understand why they are removing ethernet ports from laptops... Even usb-sticks are now really obsolete.
It's the desk-wide web!
(Instead of the world-wide web.)
while I agree that there should be more thunderbolt ports Ill ask you this:
How often do you plug anything into your laptop nowadays?
@@TH-camAIbot Daily, dozens of times. Music equipment, memory cards, cameras, cd rom drive, extra monitors, iems, mouse, gaming peripherals, wired arctis pro headset, wired internet connection, vr setup, the list goes on.
I love your vids man. It's always pretty much "Oh, ok. Here's something I know absolutely nothing about".
Video title in 1 year: "Histerical: My client's M1 is litteraly dead after I plugged my usb-c ammeter"
For the people saying that consumers should know what the devices are meant for and therefore Apple is not at fault, I would like to point out that a large portion of the marketing for the M1-equipped products was about how great they are for video rendering and editing, which is about as write-intensive as workloads get. So claiming that it's not intended for this many writes isn't a valid argument.
For the people who will still say that most professional video editors will be rendering off of an external server, keep in mind that Apple doesn't offer any configurations with LAN faster than 1 gigabit, and the lack of thunderbolt ports means that 10 gigabit ethernet isn't an option. And as we saw in this video, a third party ethernet adapter isn't a good idea, either.
These talks of yours work very well to prevent me from upgrading the gear I have and that works just fine. iPhone8, Macbook Air from 2017. I'll just ride them out for all they are worth.
Apple Engineers: "needs more solder"
Okay, thats actually sad. So much potential but so little customer care.
"good f'ing job!!!"
priceless.
The tragic is that the clicking sound was a short circuit somewhere, I wish it was a breaker.
How are there people still buying Mac Desktop computer or Laptops is incomprehensible is worse that being fixed on your dose (sorry I went a bit far)
You understand it wrong, it's time bomb!
But if you like MacOS youre stuck with it, or you can go the hackintosh way, wich is a f* headache
Consoomers:
"Wait! Apple is becoming even bigger garbage?"
"Shut up and take my money!"
The vacuum bagged plushies in the back make me anxious
Will you make a Framework laptop hands on when/if you get one?
He probably would because he supports right to repair
Depends on what they wind up saying about schematic availability for users or technicians. If they say no then they're the same as everyone else. We'll see.
@@rossmanngroup The same as everyone else, but _with a decent screen_.
This video just sold me on going with a different laptop. I was concerned with the RAM caching on the SSD but didn't realize how much it would actually write to the drive. Only issue is that almost all laptops besides Apple are backordered for 1-3 months and I need something quicker than that....and as always, I learned something.
Lol review: this year’s computer is faster than last year’s computer.
Apple Marketing in a nutshell: "This years model is better than last year's model!"
Me: "Well thank you captain obvious!"
It can edit 8k videos.
"It dies faster than the previous model!"
@@alexbloomberg4221 So, means its exactly both the comment and Louis said: the machine is faster. Which is to be expected, it would be sad if the thing would be slower or has has less capabilities than the previous generation.
Before the M1 you people couldn't shut up about how horrid the performance and thermals was on Macs. Apple not only fixes both issues but now exceeds even gaming laptops in performance and now you brush it off like its some 5% generational improvement that happens whenever Intel releases a new 14nm+++++++++ cpu.
Props to Apple for having the courage to add a 3.5 mm jack on the M1.
there hasn't been a single Apple computer over the last decades without a 3.5mm. I know these are inconvenient facts for the blind Apple haters, I know facts are in general hard to grasp for you, but you have to be strong and hold tight with me on this one.
@@RandomUser2401 T R I G G E R E D
@@RandomUser2401 soooo T R I G G E R E D
@@RandomUser2401 lol buddy this is the same company actively removing the 3.5mm jack from their products. So you can take your smug bullshit and shove it right up your ass.
@@xmlthegreat here we go - inconvenient facts. You confirm this again by saying they removed it from "their products", while this is simply not true for a lot of them. As I said, for people like you it is very hard to accept facts that don't fit their own delusional views.
You are the best, all the other youtubers are in love with the M1's... all the reviews are exactly the same. I've watched and read many reviews and haven't heard about the USB-C hub issue until now and this is a major issue, an actual "applegate".
Then you should have read reviews on forums like reddit
My mans starting to be like those sportscasters that owe their entire career to the team they spent years criticizing
MacUser: "I settle for Apple, because it's despite to Windows and Linux a reliant system." - also: "Who uses a PC x years old!?"
Me on my 8 years old Workstation/Gaming PC (OCed 4770K/1070/16GB) still capable running everything at max w/ minor expense upgrades: "I dunno?" Not to speak of that Toshiba Satellite for vintage gaming from the stone age...
Oh, and the reason why I ended up at @Louis Rossmann: Because the MacBook Pro of my g/f died - and I needed some (hard to find) advice on board repair.
I was using a 3rd gen i5 until about 6 months ago... On my 2nd gen era motherboard.
Still got a GTX 960... Was aiming to buy a 3070 by Christmas... Should have bought the 1660 Super when I had the chance. 😟
@@tin2001 Yeah, that'll be a long time until a 3070 and others will be in store anywhere.😂 Maybe try winning the lottery first, better channces. And you won't mind then to buy one off some scalpers/miners.
Yeah.. In 2016 I bought an old computer that had a regular MB with an i5 4460. I put it in a different case, added a gtx 1060 and that was it for about a year. Then I wanted a better cpu so I bought an i7 4470 from a different country (still in the EU) for 200€. It came in a padded letter like packaging (you probably know what I mean. )
The only new things about the computer are: The case, the power supply, more ram and an ssd. I am even using 2 of the old HDDs. One is a 2 TB WD HDD that stores everything. Whoever tells me that they are afraid of buying second hand components or computers I just laugh in their face. Of course, it is a risk, not to be taken lightly. But still, you buy old cars which are basically old moving parts. Modern electronics are good enough.
If I am not satisfied, I will just buy a better GPU because CPUs are good enough. I have a 1080p monitor so even if I buy a second hand gtx 1070 I will be fine.
@@podolanko7 Ah forgot to mention that: Upgraded over the years the main drives also to SSD. Of course that gave a big, still cheap boost.
Totally agree with you - the only thing I bought new back was the board and the RAM, because that I couldn`t re-use. The CPU was back then already three years old and I got it new, but discounted. Put all my old TB in that machine and my old 660.
w/o greedy miners 😂 I'd upgraded my GPU much earlier, so I did it when mining went temporarily downhill some years ago.
Since I don't need to edit that many videos for work and most shooters are still running fine @max (not ultra, but often close) and 40 - 90 fps...
Was so "shocked" when I, with that attitude, wanted to replace the logicboard of my g/f (5 years old!) Mac: "WTF, I could build a new machine for that!". And how cheap, if you don't count the labour, the replacement of some chips (corrosion of LCD power unit) was.
best technical channel ever
so do we replace the whole machine when the ssd dies. sounds like a massive fu to the environment on apples part.
No, you’ll be buying a whole new logic board, which is almost as expensive as a new machine, which will therefore seem pointless, so you buy a new machine anyway. The logic board on my last macbook air died. Could not afford to replace it, so I waited another couple years with a machine that kept crashing until I had scraped enough money together to build a hackintosh 🤷♀️ I’m generally pleased that they finally solved the heat issues with M1, but the soldered on ssd is a big fat no for me!
@@LillySchwartz Why, you can resolder new chips on board. It is doable even at home with proper equipment and experience. I bet that there will be many companies offer that, but..
When it will fail? My MBA with 8GB RAM does about 20-30GB wirtes per day, same as my PC with 32GB did. So even with reserve I talking about 12TBW/year with average 150TBW guarantee on todays SSDs, it will last for 12 years. And with reach that TBW it does not stop work. I bought 7yrs old Windows refubrished laptop, was running with 4GB RAM so it swaps a lot. And hey 170TBW on 128GB SSD which still runs pretty well.
I do not mid if drive in MBA M1 will last "only" 12years, I guess 12 years from now, it will not exists - refubrished or recycled.
For supre if someone will take that machine and will use it as NAS cache, for server, for heavy work with big files (transfering lot of data) or will do a lot of multitasking with memory heavy apps, yes, it can fail quckly, same as many other machines with similar workload
@@jirikocman Did you watch the video? Apparently the 8GB model swaps like crazy under normal circumstances without heavy loads. This is precisely the problem with it. As for re-soldering chips: Again, did you watch the video? If the company producing these chips is not allowed to sell them to anyone but Apple - a likely scenario - there won't be any chips available to re-solder even if someone has the equipment to solder SMD components. I do lots of electronics DIY projects and even I don't have a reflow oven or a heat gun that gets hot enough. I tried soldering SMD stuff with a soldering iron once and it was just disastrous 😬None of my SSDs have failed so far, but I make sure it doesn't swap like crazy.
@@jirikocman Your comment made me feel a bit relieved about my M1 Air.
@@jirikocman apple new MacBooks are junk and not all ssd gonna last 12 years that's the better case scenario and soldering at home chips is a big no people will have to use usb name and load from that...
I am so depressed about this subject. I depend on the tools of the OS. I like the experience of the OS. I have never liked the hardware experience for decades.
I have not had a good experience with an SSD on an old HP laptop that had Ubuntu. I have been lazy about coding. I try to imitate my Mac experience. I realize that I must “Think Differently” when it comes to Linux distros.
I am looking to go back on eBay for a Thinkpad but no Unbuntu. Maybe Mint ot Pop!_OS.
Thank you LR for your insightful videos over the years.
Think Different part killed me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I thought that M1 Macbook is “incredible value” that is the mantra of EVERY BIG CHANNELS on youtube! And no one talking about this!!
The same people that says Mac will last longer than a PC!
Fact is that for 99% people it does last longer and than most pc’s heck im using a 9 year old imac. My pc has been dead and unusable for a few years. I dont have an m1 mac but it does seem to be good value for the price. I have been looking for a new windows machine for a wile now and honestly havent found one that ticks all the boxes. Battery life + power.
This is exactly the contrarian view point I was looking for when it comes to the M1 Macs. I am torn, man. As a video editor, final cut on the M1 looks as flawless as I can imagine video editing to be (at the just-passed-amateur level that I consider my skillsets to be in).
Even from a non video editing standpoint, I am blown away by the battery and power consumption stats. But then I see this, and I remember why I have a love hate relationship with Apple. All they have to do is to signal an intent to decrease e-waste by making upgrading simple with their product architecture, and I will happily jump to their corner. As it is, I am happy with my patchwork of eco-systems that I use in order to get my computing work done, instead of just relying on Apple to do everything for me.
Thanks for doing what you do, Louis.
Buy it 20 hour battery life and barely any fan noise is more than worth it. Ssd will last a long time unless you’re moving terabytes of data a month. A lot of fear mongering. iPhones and iPad have soldered on memory and they last years on end. Plus if you look around you can find the m1 pro for £1000 sealed.
I'm on the same boat bro
Thanks for that thoughtful input!
Hoping you will be making more videos on the current New Rent situation, particularly how the Eviction Moratorium is affecting the market now for both Tenants and Landlords. I'm doing all I can to educate the public but we need more people like you with a large audience to speak up. PS, Apple sucks
I don't think anyone has any misunderstandings about what kind of a clusterf**k is headed for America in this department, this is an obvious problem that everyone can see no matter their values, ideology, politics, etc. It's fun to watch Louis rant about things, but landlords, tenants, banks, politicians, homeowners, workers, the unemployed...everyone knows this is about to be a huge problem, there isn't an awareness problem on this issue that I can see. The problem is that there's no easy solution that will make everyone happy, lots of people will be screwed from every group I've mentioned.
@@uttcftptid4481 Its already become a big problem and has become an issue for many who talk about it. I lost about 2/3rds of my subscribers since I started talking about the Eviction Moratorium. Louis can get away with talking about it more, because his audience loves his rants
@@NickSakalis yeah Louis has done something that most TH-cam creators can't get away with, and that is build a channel that covers many unrelated topics, and he does it in a way that attracts more people than he drives away. If you've dedicated your own channel to one certain thing and built an audience that is only there for that thing, trying to include other topics can have huge affects on audience retention. You'll drive away some, and attract others who are interested in the new topic, but won't care about your main videos. I'm sorry you lost so many subs, perhaps those people subbed to your channel because you were offering videos that let them escape from having to think about the real world problems, and if that's the case, bringing up those problems they were enjoying not have to think about for a few minutes can be detrimental.
My channel started as a ridiculous variety show so discussing other topics doesn't affect it. It really is ridiculous that this has 1.53 million subscribers, should be 10-20k max.
@@rossmanngroup I'm glad you're around and doing your thing.. I might not always agree with your opinions, but I appreciate and respect your Unfiltered and Unapologetic approach.
Why I have never bought a laptop in a nutshell. I discovered how reliable having a built desktop computer is a long time ago.
@Adam A-K if you say so, i’d much rather use a very specific device for what I’m doing on the go. Ie: an Actual camera for pictures and videos. A Voice recorder for Voice capture, etc. I find less goes wrong if it’s kept simple.
I still use my 2015 MacBook Pro (13 inches) I just ordered a 512Gb fledgling ssd and will be installing it. I hate not being able to upgrade my own property