I've had some great feedback on this video including some tips for users of Neo Geo "kidney bean" and Neo Geo CD controllers. If you're following along at home I highly urge you to watch this update video - it's only a few minutes and adds some details that I think will be really helpful: th-cam.com/video/C1nrNX-IMAU/w-d-xo.html
The Atari 8-bit [A8] computer scene is modding games to sense 3 fire buttons. They're doing this by accessing the Paddle Lines. It was actually pioneered by Atari programmer Rob Zdybel back in circa 1981 when he programmed "3-Base Missile Command" for the Atari 8-bits so Atari's own employees in Consumer Engineering could play a more arcade-accurate version of the game on their computers. Dan Kramer, who designed the CX22 Trak-Ball for the 2600/A8 and later the CX53 Trak-Ball for the 5200, built 3-fire button Trak-Ball Controllers for his fellow employees to play the game. So anyway, an adapter for A8 that used the Paddle Lines would be a great way to use the Neo Geo arcade stick with the modern modded games... just a thought. I have one of those NeoGeo sticks modded for use with my 5200, done by Grips03 at AtariAge. He even added a numeric keypad to it...
Thanks! Yup, they'd certainly be good for that. You can chop up an old RGB SCART cable for the 9 core cable, too. That's what I'm using in later videos in the series.
Great video Rees! I might have missed it, but it's worth noting that while the 5 volt (pin 8) isn't needed for the original stick like you have there, it IS needed for the later kidney bean shaped Neo Geo Stick and the Neo CD game pad.
Hi Todd, thanks for watching and thanks for the tip. This is the only Neo Geo stick that I own so I wasn't aware of the difference. I'll be sure to make it clear in future episodes and I've pinned your comment so hopefully nobody gets tripped up by this!
This is fantastic. I have a neo cd controller that I’d love to use with more systems. For 5v would that be pin 7 on the Atari side to pin 8 on the neo side?
Using the pin out shown in your video at 1:11 and connecting pin 7 from the Atari side to pin 8 on the neo geo side worked for my neo geo cd controller. Thanks again for creating this video. Super fun project!
Hi Durk, sorry I missed your reply yesterday. TH-cam is very good at hiding these things from us. Yes indeed, pin 7 to pin 8 is exactly what you need. Glad to hear that it's working for you! I'm working on an update video where I'll talk about this and some other feedback I've had. I have ordered a CD controller but it'll be a while before it arrives from Japan so it's good to hear that it works with this small modification. It really makes my day to hear that people are following my tutorials and getting good results, so thanks so much for the positive feedback! 👍
Thanks! Apologies for the lack of info, I should have mentioned that in the video. It was from ebay but I imagine electronics places will stock them. The term you'll need to search for is "male DB15 breakout".
That's excellent to know Rees. I'm looking forward on sharing the Neo-Geo material on the Neo-Geo thread on Atariage.com. Good to know that you're staring out with your channel. I'm sure you have plenty to say and share with us for sure. If you like, come by the Atariage forums and have a look around. Seeing tat you collect Atari goodies, we certainly have plenty of avid Atari members in the community that share your interest as well. I think you'll enjoy it. 8^) Thank you for the reply Rees. Going to enjoy what you have to offer kind sir. 8^) Anthony..
I actually already have an account there, in fact I think I've been a member for 10+ years but I haven't visited in a long time. I'll be sure to come back and check it out!
@@ctrlaltrees My goal is to be able to play with a joyball for amiga 500 on a pandora consolized console that mounts inputs for the neo geo pads. (Becouse I want to play Crystal Castle like an arcade cabinet). Could a megadrive to neo neo geo adapter be good?
Hi and like others, thanks for sharing. I tried myself with a MAX 330 MEGA to my Atari Falcon by using a dirtier method : a breadboard and a female DB9 and a male DB15. I followed the instructions and wired the simple board . I checked the resistance between pins and it's ok but unfortunately, it's not working. Are you aware of anything specific for Falcon joystick port ( I used the one from the bottom of the unit, not those on the left side ). I'll triple check later and I will check voltage but I am really frustrated as finding an ATARI compatible joystick in Japan is complicated ... and your wonderful video sounded like a Graal for me :) But feedback shows that I did something wrong but for now, I'm lost ... Else I will order the same stuff as you but I'll have to wait - and patience is not one of my best qualities :) Thanks again and bye !
Hi David, I'm sorry to hear that. I don't now much about the Falcon - it has the enhanced 15-pin joystick ports, right? Are you connecting to those with an adapter? It seems that pin 7 of the Falcon joystick port provides +5VDC which you will need for the later Neo Geo joysticks (please see my update video linked above). Maybe the 9-to-15-pin adapter you're using with the Falcon doesn't provide power as the original 9 pin Atari joysticks didn't use it? You may be pleased to hear that my future plans do include the Atari 15-pin enhanced joystick port as it's the same one used on the Jaguar. I'd gladly share the info but that's still a few videos off so I haven't even started prototyping it yet.
Hello Rees. Greetings from the United States. What a fantastic and interesting tech video you done with the Neo-Geo adapter. Excellent to see you do a multiple video series regarding this. Great to see bright minds like yourself sharing your knowledge for us to benefit from Rees. This will certainly be fun to try this myself. My name is Anthony. I'm the topic starter of, "The Official NEO-GEO Thread" on Atariage.com. I posted this video on there for others to view and to give additional exposure to your work and channel. We welcome to join in and discuss Neo-Geo and SNK related material in a mature and friendly manner for newcomers and veterans alike. Your upload is on page 922, post #23,041 for you to view. Thank you for sharing this with us Rees. I'll be glad to post the remaining videos from the series up for you if you wish me to kind sir. Thank you again and keep up the great work. 8^) Anthony..
Hi Anthony, thanks for the kind comments and for sharing the video. Please do feel free to share them anywhere if you feel that the content will be helpful for people. I'm an Atari collector and also have other videos on various retro gaming and computing subjects. I'm just getting started with my channel but have a lot of videos in the works that you will hopefully enjoy! 🙂
I've had some great feedback on this video including some tips for users of Neo Geo "kidney bean" and Neo Geo CD controllers. If you're following along at home I highly urge you to watch this update video - it's only a few minutes and adds some details that I think will be really helpful: th-cam.com/video/C1nrNX-IMAU/w-d-xo.html
The Atari 8-bit [A8] computer scene is modding games to sense 3 fire buttons. They're doing this by accessing the Paddle Lines. It was actually pioneered by Atari programmer Rob Zdybel back in circa 1981 when he programmed "3-Base Missile Command" for the Atari 8-bits so Atari's own employees in Consumer Engineering could play a more arcade-accurate version of the game on their computers. Dan Kramer, who designed the CX22 Trak-Ball for the 2600/A8 and later the CX53 Trak-Ball for the 5200, built 3-fire button Trak-Ball Controllers for his fellow employees to play the game. So anyway, an adapter for A8 that used the Paddle Lines would be a great way to use the Neo Geo arcade stick with the modern modded games... just a thought. I have one of those NeoGeo sticks modded for use with my 5200, done by Grips03 at AtariAge. He even added a numeric keypad to it...
Interesting, I wasn't aware of this 3 button mod. Sounds like it would be an easy enough modification. I'll look into it, thanks!
Love how neat it ended up! Looking forward to the rest in the series!!
A solid idea and well executed!
Great video, I like those breakout boxes a lot!
Yeah, they're great for prototyping stuff... Just a shame my stuff never makes it past the prototype stage!
Nice! Can't wait to see the rest.
Looking forward to the next videos! I would love to see the PC version!
It's coming soon, don't worry!
Great idea. I might pick up some of those breakout boxes to make nice sturdy DB9 extenders.
Thanks! Yup, they'd certainly be good for that. You can chop up an old RGB SCART cable for the 9 core cable, too. That's what I'm using in later videos in the series.
Ah, good to know Rees. If you like to stop by on the forums and the Neo-Geo thread. Feel free to do so kind sir. 8^)
Anthony..
Great video Rees! I might have missed it, but it's worth noting that while the 5 volt (pin 8) isn't needed for the original stick like you have there, it IS needed for the later kidney bean shaped Neo Geo Stick and the Neo CD game pad.
Hi Todd, thanks for watching and thanks for the tip. This is the only Neo Geo stick that I own so I wasn't aware of the difference. I'll be sure to make it clear in future episodes and I've pinned your comment so hopefully nobody gets tripped up by this!
This is fantastic. I have a neo cd controller that I’d love to use with more systems. For 5v would that be pin 7 on the Atari side to pin 8 on the neo side?
Using the pin out shown in your video at 1:11 and connecting pin 7 from the Atari side to pin 8 on the neo geo side worked for my neo geo cd controller. Thanks again for creating this video. Super fun project!
Hi Durk, sorry I missed your reply yesterday. TH-cam is very good at hiding these things from us.
Yes indeed, pin 7 to pin 8 is exactly what you need. Glad to hear that it's working for you! I'm working on an update video where I'll talk about this and some other feedback I've had. I have ordered a CD controller but it'll be a while before it arrives from Japan so it's good to hear that it works with this small modification.
It really makes my day to hear that people are following my tutorials and getting good results, so thanks so much for the positive feedback! 👍
Hmm, might give that a go 👍
Go for it! Let me know how you get on.
Great video 👍
Thanks! 👍
Great video. Thanks much!
My pleasure!
Nicely done. Where did you get the DB15 with the terminal connector please?
Thanks! Apologies for the lack of info, I should have mentioned that in the video. It was from ebay but I imagine electronics places will stock them. The term you'll need to search for is "male DB15 breakout".
@@ctrlaltrees Spot on Rees, thank you.
You're very welcome, glad to be of help. 👍
That's excellent to know Rees. I'm looking forward on sharing the Neo-Geo material on the Neo-Geo thread on Atariage.com. Good to know that you're staring out with your channel. I'm sure you have plenty to say and share with us for sure. If you like, come by the Atariage forums and have a look around. Seeing tat you collect Atari goodies, we certainly have plenty of avid Atari members in the community that share your interest as well. I think you'll enjoy it. 8^)
Thank you for the reply Rees. Going to enjoy what you have to offer kind sir. 8^)
Anthony..
I actually already have an account there, in fact I think I've been a member for 10+ years but I haven't visited in a long time. I'll be sure to come back and check it out!
Can you build an adapter to use the amiga pad on the neogeo console?
You mean the CD32 pad? It wasn't on my radar to be honest but it certainly seems like it would be possible.
@@ctrlaltrees
My goal is to be able to play with a joyball for amiga 500 on a pandora consolized console that mounts inputs for the neo geo pads. (Becouse I want to play Crystal Castle like an arcade cabinet). Could a megadrive to neo neo geo adapter be good?
Hi and like others, thanks for sharing.
I tried myself with a MAX 330 MEGA to my Atari Falcon by using a dirtier method : a breadboard and a female DB9 and a male DB15.
I followed the instructions and wired the simple board . I checked the resistance between pins and it's ok but unfortunately, it's not working.
Are you aware of anything specific for Falcon joystick port ( I used the one from the bottom of the unit, not those on the left side ).
I'll triple check later and I will check voltage but I am really frustrated as finding an ATARI compatible joystick in Japan is complicated ... and your wonderful video sounded like a Graal for me :)
But feedback shows that I did something wrong but for now, I'm lost ...
Else I will order the same stuff as you but I'll have to wait - and patience is not one of my best qualities :)
Thanks again and bye !
Hi David, I'm sorry to hear that. I don't now much about the Falcon - it has the enhanced 15-pin joystick ports, right? Are you connecting to those with an adapter? It seems that pin 7 of the Falcon joystick port provides +5VDC which you will need for the later Neo Geo joysticks (please see my update video linked above). Maybe the 9-to-15-pin adapter you're using with the Falcon doesn't provide power as the original 9 pin Atari joysticks didn't use it?
You may be pleased to hear that my future plans do include the Atari 15-pin enhanced joystick port as it's the same one used on the Jaguar. I'd gladly share the info but that's still a few videos off so I haven't even started prototyping it yet.
Great stuff. I hate up as jump.
I'm on a campaign to permanently rid it from my life in as many creative ways as possible!
Hello Rees. Greetings from the United States.
What a fantastic and interesting tech video you done with the Neo-Geo adapter. Excellent to see you do a multiple video series regarding this. Great to see bright minds like yourself sharing your knowledge for us to benefit from Rees. This will certainly be fun to try this myself.
My name is Anthony. I'm the topic starter of, "The Official NEO-GEO Thread" on Atariage.com. I posted this video on there for others to view and to give additional exposure to your work and channel. We welcome to join in and discuss Neo-Geo and SNK related material in a mature and friendly manner for newcomers and veterans alike.
Your upload is on page 922, post #23,041 for you to view. Thank you for sharing this with us Rees. I'll be glad to post the remaining videos from the series up for you if you wish me to kind sir. Thank you again and keep up the great work. 8^)
Anthony..
Hi Anthony, thanks for the kind comments and for sharing the video. Please do feel free to share them anywhere if you feel that the content will be helpful for people. I'm an Atari collector and also have other videos on various retro gaming and computing subjects. I'm just getting started with my channel but have a lot of videos in the works that you will hopefully enjoy! 🙂