One of the reasons I love British TV is that many comedians and celebrities are so well read. I know it's a lot of trivia but much of it rooted in literature and history and truly quite compelling.
Lee Mack and Graham Norton on the same episode?? That is too good. And David Mitchell absolutely had Stephen Fry in stitches with that joke about a “pacifist nuclear weapons manufacturer”
I would not say that Daniel Radcliffe is (or was) more famous or better known than Lee Mack or Graham Norton (the latter having had his own late night chat show for _at least_ the last twenty or so years. Lee Mack, apart from being a well known stand up comedian, is also a writer, and has acted in his very well-known own series of comedy sitcom - called 'Not Going Out'. Alan Davies is also well-known as both being a stand up comedian, a writer and actor - having acted in different series including as a magician's prop man, writer and investigater in the long running tv series 'Jonathan Creek', plus as presenter of his own tv chat show 'As Yet Untitled' - where Alan would choose the title of each episode from whatever word or phrase he liked best as a title, as mentioned by one of his guests each week. ... Jack Dee, (also in this video, though not with Daniel) is likewise well-known as a comedy writer, stand up comedian, actor in his own tv comedy sitcom series 'Lead Balloon', as well as long standing chairman of Radio 4 / Extra's comedy series 'Im Sorry, I Haven't A Clue' (that show having been aired since 1972 and previously chaired by well known jazz trumpeter Humphrey Lyttleton)...
@@brigidsingleton1596 seriously? I'm 72 and well aware of how people are perceived. Daniel Radcliffe is more well known worldwide, in fact. It doesn't matter that in your very pompous and insular opinion other people have done more. They are not as well known and, therefore not as famous. Did you fail mathematics but not English?
You'll notice that the rule on the blackboard graphic says, "'I' before 'E', except after 'C'..." The "..." is very important because it indicates that something has been left out of the sentence. What is missing is the ending of the rule which is, "'I' before 'E' except after 'C', when sounding like 'ee'." So, words such as neighbour and reign are not covered by the rule because it sounds like 'ay'. Also, many of the examples they gave were not English words, as Alan points out, but even then, they don't make the 'ee' sound and thus don't count. Some are words that are modified with a tense suffix e.g. being, and, as such, don't count. The only exception are those words that have slipped into the common vernacular from the scientific usage which is derived from Greek i.e. caffeine. Having said all that, I haven't seen the entire episode and, as this is an edited clip, I don't know if Stephen later reveals the entire rule.
The edit also doesn’t show if it was a round of ”general ignorance”. I for one have never heard of the last bit of the ”I before E” rule, so it would make sense as question in that round. I would guess most people only know the beginning bit, which is indeed false without the whole rule.
Forget about the marsupial Lyon, there was a type of eagle in Australia and New Zealand that was big enough to hunt and pray upon early man. They needed to be fast so they could outrun the hawks swooping at them.
Sound can be quantified by shattering glass in a sound proof room while you observe from outside.. You can see the glass shatter but you can't hear the sound.
Ah! But there was a microphpone in that sound-proof room, and it "heard" the sound - like when a tree fell in the forest, two trees away, there was a squirrel, and when I asked that squirrel, it said "Yes. It *_SOUND-_* ed like a tree falling!
@@DownhillAllTheWay However, @SimBir08 never mentioned having a microphone in the room, merely watching from outside. But you don't need to hear it in order for there to be sound. After all, if you heard it, but I didn't it doesn't mean the sound doesn't exist for me.
@@BumMcFluff Yes, that's my point. The old question is "If a tree falls in the forest, but nobody hears it, did it make any sound?" If nobody can report on it, was there sound? Well, it's hard to prove, but to my mind, *_of course_* there was sound - even if nobody heard it. That's why I brought the squirrel into the picture.
Sound isn’t vibration of the eardrum. It’s the vibration of air. That’s like saying if a tree fell down in a forest and a deaf man was standing nearby and didn’t hear it then it didn’t happen.
@@Pagliacci_Rex of course it did. The question should really be, was there a person nearby that could hear it. The volcano in Indonesia erupted and the sound was so loud that it reverberated 7 times around the world… I would assume it did make a sound.
Wrong the word sound is defined ,don’t make up your own definitions, look it up ! Understanding there is no right answer ,only a debatable subject is the first part of this talk ,sound has to be received and recognized to be defined as sound ..if no one or anything heard it ,it isn’t a sound ! There are other terms that could help describe it ,but sound doesn’t! Now if you would like I could debate the other side ,because your trying to be right and know something ,and I am just taking the opposite side of your argument ,because I understand that there is no truth ,because if we both continue to be pedantic about defining words ,we both lose and will not come to a conclusion! Here’s the lesson , your wrong both ways ,only through cognitive dissonance can you interpret properly.
We'd think it weird if the birds paid each other in seeds for the land under their nests, but we do the same thing and we don't ask any other critters.
The full meaning of the Duke of Westminster's reply ("You can have the freehold when you give my family back Virginia which you confiscated from us") comes out when looking at an historical map. In July of 1776, the commonwealth of Virginia covered the following territory: Virginia (including what is now West Virginia), Kentucky, six counties in SW Pennsylvania including Allegheny, which is pretty much synonymous with present-day Pittsburgh, the lower ⅔ or so of Ohio, along with the states of Indiana, Illinois, Michigan (including the Upper Peninsula), Wisconsin, and the eastern part of Minnesota.
I hate the question if a tree falls in the woods and no ones around to hear it does it make a sound, because it’s so self absorbed to think that just because a human wasn’t around to experience something it didn’t happen. Yes it fucking makes a sound.
Yes. True. But also… When I was in school my taught it as I before e except after c or when sounding like ‘ā’ as in neighbor or weight. And a lot of the exceptions are lexicologically stolen from other languages or had their spellings changed in modern English as their uses/meanings changed. Like how concierge is taken from French and weird was used in Macbeth as “wyrde” or essentially “wayward”
The I before E rule relates to having the same sound as E before I. Most of the examples showed words that did not follow the sounding or was a gerund (being)
This whole sound thing comes down to specific definitions. As they say, "sound" is defined by there being someone to hear it. It's the term being used that makes that question seem profound. Another take would be if a tree falls and causes vibration but there is no one there to feel it, is there a vibration. A tree falling would cause both sound and vibration (to those feeling it/hearing it) but what is the definition of the thing happening whether we are there or not. At that point its just what are the physics of the ocurrence?.
No, it really doesn't com down to definitions... The physicists' definition is obvious; sound exists when sound waves are made. The semanticists' definition is *moot* ...since in any forest there are *always* a *myriad* of life forms there to be receivers for the sound waves, and therefore "hear" ...making the sound into a sound. Every time. By *ANY* definition. It is only the combination of colossal arrogance and ignorance on the part of even educated humans to not notice just how much life is present in any place with a tree that allows the semanticist to hide their pedantry and try to sound smart. Vibrating air can be detected by so many different life forms that it would be harder to remove them all than is even vaguely feasible, barring the use of hard radiation. Even bacteria respond to sound in certain wavelengths. The very question is moronic, from the ground up. May as well ask "what is the sound of one hand clapping?" or other navel contemplation nonsense. The correct genre of this isn't semanticism, nor physics... but "mental masturbation".
@@BumMcFluff But that's not true. The sound is the thing the human brain creates based on the signals recieved by the Human ear. There is no sound until it is perceived. There is only vibration until your brain converts this signal into a sound. If a tree falls in the forest and there is no living thing with ears and a brain to perceive the vibration then it doesn't make a sound, it only generates vibration.
@@ct5625 Interesting, but I disagree. All conditions for the sound to be made are present in (for example) a falling tree whether or not someone is present to hear it. It could even be recorded by a machine and played back later.
@@ct5625It’s isn’t though. “Sound” is simply a vibration that passes through the air. Saying sound doesn’t exist unless there’s an ear to hear it, is like saying Light doesn’t exist unless there’s an eye to see it.
So nice to hear someone compare the horrors of eastward bound jet lag to the delight of westward travel. Can i go to Europe? Sure, but I’ll be a zombie. Can i come back to canada? With all the ease of a Sunday brunch, i can.
They are wrong about the i before e rule. The trouble is that "ie before e except after c" is not the whole rule, but it's the only part people have learned. The full rule is: "i before e except after c when the sound is 'ee'. For every other sound, use ei." (An example of "other sounds" would be veil which uses the "ay" sound not "ee", ie, "veil" is NOT an exception to the rule). That gives exactly 8 exceptions, or 6, depending on how you say either/neither (also "glacier" doesn't count, because the syllable breaks between the i and e and this rule is only used when the ei/ie is a digraph. "Glacier" more correctly follows the "c can only say s when followed by an e, i, or y" rule, the letters combine as gl-a-ci-er). Actual, real exceptions to the full, correct rule above include: weird (where the ee sound is said, but it is spelled ie), friend (where the sound is "eh" not ee but is spelled like "ee"), ceiling (where the sound is ee but is an ei after c), either/neither [depending on how you pronounce them; if you say igh-ther/nigh-ther they don't break the rule], and a few others I can't remember right now but could all fit into one sentence which is supposed to help one remember all of the exceptions but I have actually forgotten. 🤣 The purpose of the rule was to help people remember which combination to use in ee sounding words, not ei in general, which is why the rule ended up being "shorthanded".
Tbh, I've had heaps of stacks like that! Haha, worst injury however, was achieved while stationary, rolled my foot forward while pushing off and broke a bone in my foot 😅 I collided with my first person the other day, a skateboarder coming round the same corner I was in the opposite direction, it was both of our faults, but he coped a full chocolate thick shake to the body . . . oops
A sound wave when a tree falls is still the sound the animals run out of the way because they heard it! So just because a human wasn't there to hear it doesn't mean is wasn't a sound!
Again, I get so annoyed by the man who is the producer or thinkerupper of QI being so incapable of a philosophical discussion or even to consider he might be wrong (does the falling tree make a sound if there’s no one to hear it). Definitely does not belong as a guest
I agree that John Lloyd is not a particularly good fit for this programme. He is much better placed as the host of BBC Radio 4's "The Museum of Curiosity."
@@MuchWhittering That's an entertaining thought! It doesn't look like a very comfortable place to give birth, but I guess it could happen. You're going to have to put a fence around Runnymede like the one on your southern border!
"As if we're any different from any other predatorial animal" The fact that you're able to write that sentence is proof we are most certainly different from every other predatorial species on this planet, and in a million ways.
@@ct5625 "Darwinian man though well behaved at best is only a monkey shaved". Someone better than me once said that and basically they're right. We as a species may have advanced much further than other animals but we're still just another predatory animal and predatory animals tend to be territorial. Hopefully we'll learn to control those now unnecessary basic urges but it's no surprise or personal shame that our ancestors couldn't. I hate all this "look how cruel and nasty mankind is, let's all eat tofu and feel guilty about shite we had fuck all to do with".
Stephen Fry's comments on slavery in the UK just aren't true. It has never been legal to have slaves in the UK, and slaves who arrived in the UK during the transatlantic slave trade were ordered to be released by the courts as you can't be a slave in the UK.
I’m pretty sure Stephen fry could tell me black was infact white and up was infact down, and I would need zero further explanation , I would go around telling everyone I know!!
Mammalia and Insecta are both classes, but there is no 'Fisha' class. The point is that the word doesn't really mean much from a biology standpoint. Calling something a fish lets you know that it's probably wet, but anything else you'd like to know about the creature is not really elucidated and would need further identification.
@@DemstarAus Not really. If someone says “Fish” I automatically know; 1 - It lives in water. 2 - It uses Gills to breath. 3 - It most likely lays eggs (with a few exceptions) Just like with mammals I know they generally; 1 - Have hair or fur 2 - Use Lungs to breathe. 3 - Give Birth to Live Young (with 1 exception)
Sorry your sense of humor can’t see his , go comment on those you like and don’t watch or comment on those you don’t get ,seems common sense but I find it isn’t very common!
@@jimosborn3411 then why the fuck are you posting an observation to a public fucking forum? Wha? You want people to know how you feel but not care? That’s a weird ego you’ve got, where you feel that what you have to say is important enough to announce to the world, but not important enough for anyone to react to! Do you also shit on the floor in public and scream at anyone who says they mind the smell?
I mean if you watch any episode of Would I Lie To You, you’ll see he very much is. His mind is VERY quick. Difference is that QI is also about general knowledge and common misconceptions, not just interplay between the panelists. He may be out of his depth on QI but he certainly isn’t only funny with pre-recorded laughter, the Would I Lie To You audiences love him.
I assume the opportunity to be educated whilst also being entertained by well-known and mostly well-liked celebrities doesn't appeal to your personal weird sensibilities...?!
@@zapkvr I hope you're not implying that ISIHAC is a worse show?!!! (It's my favourite - or at least, it used to be my favourite, radio comedy show - when chaired by both the late jazz trumpeter, Humphrey Lyttleton, and thereafter comedian, writer, actor and presenter, Jack Dee) ... 🤔🏴😏🇬🇧❤️🖖
The guy who kept saying ooh "sound is only in your ear" needs to grow up. It makes vibrations, which would cause the effect of someone hearing it, whether or not they do doesnt matter
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One of the reasons I love British TV is that many comedians and celebrities are so well read. I know it's a lot of trivia but much of it rooted in literature and history and truly quite compelling.
Well we just don't invite the dumb ones on to QI 😂
Lee Mack and Graham Norton on the same episode?? That is too good. And David Mitchell absolutely had Stephen Fry in stitches with that joke about a “pacifist nuclear weapons manufacturer”
Well done with the new best of series keep up the good work! I think qi is one of the few timeless shows of both inellect and entertainment!!
It’s funny seeing Sandy answering questions with such fear and uncertainty
She was always such a welcome occasional guest, especially her befuddled cat lady moments. It's too bad the show has changed so much with her as host.
Despite being the most famous person on that episode Daniel Radcliffe seems more like an enthusiastic fan who's got a chance to be on the show
I would not say that Daniel Radcliffe is (or was) more famous or better known than Lee Mack or Graham Norton (the latter having had his own late night chat show for _at least_ the last twenty or so years.
Lee Mack, apart from being a well known stand up comedian, is also a writer, and has acted in his very well-known own series of comedy sitcom - called 'Not Going Out'.
Alan Davies is also well-known as both being a stand up comedian, a writer and actor - having acted in different series including as a magician's prop man, writer and investigater in the long running tv series 'Jonathan Creek', plus as presenter of his own tv chat show
'As Yet Untitled' - where Alan would choose the title of each episode from whatever word or phrase he liked best as a title, as mentioned by one of his guests each week. ...
Jack Dee, (also in this video, though not with Daniel) is likewise well-known as a comedy writer, stand up comedian, actor in his own tv comedy sitcom series 'Lead Balloon', as well as long standing chairman of Radio 4 / Extra's comedy series
'Im Sorry, I Haven't A Clue' (that show having been aired since 1972 and previously chaired by well known jazz trumpeter Humphrey Lyttleton)...
I mean he probably is...
@@brigidsingleton1596 Daniel Radcliffe is a recognised face worldwide, Lee Mack and Alan Davies not so much.
@@oxenrat
Oh I See... So to be "well-known" one must appeal to the world and his wife?!
Uhuh...how 'young' of you to utter such critique...
@@brigidsingleton1596 seriously? I'm 72 and well aware of how people are perceived.
Daniel Radcliffe is more well known worldwide, in fact. It doesn't matter that in your very pompous and insular opinion other people have done more. They are not as well known and, therefore not as famous. Did you fail mathematics but not English?
The I before E bit is still my favourite QI clip of all time.
Great work as always! Really liked the white tree about 2/3rds through.
Lee getting school-mastered by Stephen is just lowkey incredibly funny.
You'll notice that the rule on the blackboard graphic says, "'I' before 'E', except after 'C'..." The "..." is very important because it indicates that something has been left out of the sentence. What is missing is the ending of the rule which is, "'I' before 'E' except after 'C', when sounding like 'ee'." So, words such as neighbour and reign are not covered by the rule because it sounds like 'ay'. Also, many of the examples they gave were not English words, as Alan points out, but even then, they don't make the 'ee' sound and thus don't count. Some are words that are modified with a tense suffix e.g. being, and, as such, don't count. The only exception are those words that have slipped into the common vernacular from the scientific usage which is derived from Greek i.e. caffeine. Having said all that, I haven't seen the entire episode and, as this is an edited clip, I don't know if Stephen later reveals the entire rule.
The edit also doesn’t show if it was a round of ”general ignorance”. I for one have never heard of the last bit of the ”I before E” rule, so it would make sense as question in that round. I would guess most people only know the beginning bit, which is indeed false without the whole rule.
i before e,
Except after c,
Or when sounded as "a",
As in neighbor and weigh
But seizure and seize do what they please.😉
Even if you added “when sounding like ee” it still wouldn’t work - caffeine, codeine, protein, seize, weird…for example.
Fry was the best host. Period.
"Usain Bolt wasn't being chased by a lion." To be fair, its not likely the Australian was, either.
The Marsupial lion (Thylacoleo) Sorry
lion spider, checkmate
If we're being pedantic he wouldn't have been Australian.
Forget about the marsupial Lyon, there was a type of eagle in Australia and New Zealand that was big enough to hunt and pray upon early man. They needed to be fast so they could outrun the hawks swooping at them.
oh, I got one! Ancient.
Sound can be quantified by shattering glass in a sound proof room while you observe from outside.. You can see the glass shatter but you can't hear the sound.
Ah! But there was a microphpone in that sound-proof room, and it "heard" the sound - like when a tree fell in the forest, two trees away, there was a squirrel, and when I asked that squirrel, it said "Yes. It *_SOUND-_* ed like a tree falling!
@@DownhillAllTheWay However, @SimBir08 never mentioned having a microphone in the room, merely watching from outside. But you don't need to hear it in order for there to be sound. After all, if you heard it, but I didn't it doesn't mean the sound doesn't exist for me.
@@BumMcFluff Yes, that's my point. The old question is "If a tree falls in the forest, but nobody hears it, did it make any sound?" If nobody can report on it, was there sound? Well, it's hard to prove, but to my mind, *_of course_* there was sound - even if nobody heard it. That's why I brought the squirrel into the picture.
@@DownhillAllTheWay Fair enough.
If a man says something in a forest and there isn't a woman to hear it, is he still wrong?
14:30 might fuhrer of the sausage people... Fuhrer of the wurst people?
Best of the wurst
Sound isn’t vibration of the eardrum. It’s the vibration of air. That’s like saying if a tree fell down in a forest and a deaf man was standing nearby and didn’t hear it then it didn’t happen.
But did it make a sound?
@@Pagliacci_Rex of course it did. The question should really be, was there a person nearby that could hear it. The volcano in Indonesia erupted and the sound was so loud that it reverberated 7 times around the world… I would assume it did make a sound.
@@xekusion I know, I was just being facetious, I agree that sound is a waveform.
Wrong the word sound is defined ,don’t make up your own definitions, look it up !
Understanding there is no right answer ,only a debatable subject is the first part of this talk ,sound has to be received and recognized to be defined as sound ..if no one or anything heard it ,it isn’t a sound !
There are other terms that could help describe it ,but sound doesn’t!
Now if you would like I could debate the other side ,because your trying to be right and know something ,and I am just taking the opposite side of your argument ,because I understand that there is no truth ,because if we both continue to be pedantic about defining words ,we both lose and will not come to a conclusion!
Here’s the lesson , your wrong both ways ,only through cognitive dissonance can you interpret properly.
@@jgage2344 observation is not existence. If a blind man turns on a light switch the light photons still exist whether his eyes receive them or not.
If you get frost burns it does exactly the same to skin cells a fire burns, this mighty be why people suffering hypothermia feel hot
You don't get frost bite on you arms and legs/ body though do you, just nose, toes,fingertips.
Thank you
😮It's not just humans who hear,therefore when a tree falls it is heard by animals,therefore it makes a sound.😊
❤❤❤ For Tuck- all the way from Australia
The Duke of west minster’s family stole the land first so he can’t really complain when other people stole it from them
It was probably stolen before then too
@@zzz5173 more than likely yeah
We'd think it weird if the birds paid each other in seeds for the land under their nests, but we do the same thing and we don't ask any other critters.
This was before Wim Hoff became famous as the Ice man
This episode made me reslize I did not know how to spell deceive.
The full meaning of the Duke of Westminster's reply ("You can have the freehold when you give my family back Virginia which you confiscated from us") comes out when looking at an historical map. In July of 1776, the commonwealth of Virginia covered the following territory:
Virginia (including what is now West Virginia), Kentucky, six counties in SW Pennsylvania including Allegheny, which is pretty much synonymous with present-day Pittsburgh, the lower ⅔ or so of Ohio, along with the states of Indiana, Illinois, Michigan (including the Upper Peninsula), Wisconsin, and the eastern part of Minnesota.
I hate the question if a tree falls in the woods and no ones around to hear it does it make a sound, because it’s so self absorbed to think that just because a human wasn’t around to experience something it didn’t happen. Yes it fucking makes a sound.
Never mess with Fry! 😀
Those who smoked 'muggles' were 'vipers'.
It’s funny that Alan’s American accent is just very clearly adam sandler as Bobby Boucher in the waterboy lol 9:18
Yes. True. But also… When I was in school my taught it as I before e except after c or when sounding like ‘ā’ as in neighbor or weight. And a lot of the exceptions are lexicologically stolen from other languages or had their spellings changed in modern English as their uses/meanings changed. Like how concierge is taken from French and weird was used in Macbeth as “wyrde” or essentially “wayward”
Jo Brand with a husband joke... that makes a change.
Someone complaining that a comedian has a schtick... that makes a change.
Aw, you triggered, petal?
You suffer so.😂😂
My mother in law is a right c###.
(In a Bernard Manning voice).
The I before E rule relates to having the same sound as E before I. Most of the examples showed words that did not follow the sounding or was a gerund (being)
This whole sound thing comes down to specific definitions. As they say, "sound" is defined by there being someone to hear it. It's the term being used that makes that question seem profound. Another take would be if a tree falls and causes vibration but there is no one there to feel it, is there a vibration. A tree falling would cause both sound and vibration (to those feeling it/hearing it) but what is the definition of the thing happening whether we are there or not. At that point its just what are the physics of the ocurrence?.
What if I heard it, but you didn't? Sound does not need to be heard to exist.
No, it really doesn't com down to definitions...
The physicists' definition is obvious; sound exists when sound waves are made.
The semanticists' definition is *moot* ...since in any forest there are *always* a *myriad* of life forms there to be receivers for the sound waves, and therefore "hear" ...making the sound into a sound. Every time.
By *ANY* definition.
It is only the combination of colossal arrogance and ignorance on the part of even educated humans to not notice just how much life is present in any place with a tree that allows the semanticist to hide their pedantry and try to sound smart. Vibrating air can be detected by so many different life forms that it would be harder to remove them all than is even vaguely feasible, barring the use of hard radiation.
Even bacteria respond to sound in certain wavelengths.
The very question is moronic, from the ground up. May as well ask "what is the sound of one hand clapping?" or other navel contemplation nonsense.
The correct genre of this isn't semanticism, nor physics... but "mental masturbation".
@@BumMcFluff But that's not true.
The sound is the thing the human brain creates based on the signals recieved by the Human ear. There is no sound until it is perceived. There is only vibration until your brain converts this signal into a sound.
If a tree falls in the forest and there is no living thing with ears and a brain to perceive the vibration then it doesn't make a sound, it only generates vibration.
@@ct5625 Interesting, but I disagree. All conditions for the sound to be made are present in (for example) a falling tree whether or not someone is present to hear it. It could even be recorded by a machine and played back later.
@@ct5625It’s isn’t though.
“Sound” is simply a vibration that passes through the air.
Saying sound doesn’t exist unless there’s an ear to hear it, is like saying Light doesn’t exist unless there’s an eye to see it.
I heard from a reliable source that Edmund Hillary fell for a prank by members of his team.
Vexatious letigancy sounds like a wonderful pastime
So nice to hear someone compare the horrors of eastward bound jet lag to the delight of westward travel. Can i go to Europe? Sure, but I’ll be a zombie. Can i come back to canada? With all the ease of a Sunday brunch, i can.
In this program Ruby Wax is about as useful as a fart in a sieve.
Not even one good joke from her
I read she suffered a fit of humility and changed her name to Ruby Wanes
How kind of you.
@@vangroover1903brilliant
I pay a lady to do that on my face.
30:33 Sound isn’t just heard through the ears, it can also be felt through the body.
That's then no longer sound but feel. 😢
The Mugles became The Mamas and the Papas.
Muggles. If you are going to try to make a joke about hippies, try not to misspell dear.
38:00 Hippos have 36 teeth
Sound and noise are separate things. Sounds are made, noises perceived
T8 is speculative .... Usain Bolt did it in front of timing devices.
They are wrong about the i before e rule. The trouble is that "ie before e except after c" is not the whole rule, but it's the only part people have learned.
The full rule is: "i before e except after c when the sound is 'ee'. For every other sound, use ei." (An example of "other sounds" would be veil which uses the "ay" sound not "ee", ie, "veil" is NOT an exception to the rule). That gives exactly 8 exceptions, or 6, depending on how you say either/neither (also "glacier" doesn't count, because the syllable breaks between the i and e and this rule is only used when the ei/ie is a digraph. "Glacier" more correctly follows the "c can only say s when followed by an e, i, or y" rule, the letters combine as gl-a-ci-er). Actual, real exceptions to the full, correct rule above include: weird (where the ee sound is said, but it is spelled ie), friend (where the sound is "eh" not ee but is spelled like "ee"), ceiling (where the sound is ee but is an ei after c), either/neither [depending on how you pronounce them; if you say igh-ther/nigh-ther they don't break the rule], and a few others I can't remember right now but could all fit into one sentence which is supposed to help one remember all of the exceptions but I have actually forgotten. 🤣
The purpose of the rule was to help people remember which combination to use in ee sounding words, not ei in general, which is why the rule ended up being "shorthanded".
@@jamescorrigan6063 It's not new at all. I learned it in the 1970s; my mother, in the early 50s.
No, the entire rule is i before e except after.c when the sound is ee.
@@jamescorrigan6063not correct
Tbh, I've had heaps of stacks like that! Haha, worst injury however, was achieved while stationary, rolled my foot forward while pushing off and broke a bone in my foot 😅
I collided with my first person the other day, a skateboarder coming round the same corner I was in the opposite direction, it was both of our faults, but he coped a full chocolate thick shake to the body . . . oops
A sound wave when a tree falls is still the sound the animals run out of the way because they heard it! So just because a human wasn't there to hear it doesn't mean is wasn't a sound!
Great show. Shame that they allow Rob Brydon.
americans dont approve of inedible food sandy?😂
meatloaf, doritos coated turkey..etc
Chlorinated chicken, cheese in a can, cheese not even in a can.
@@terryhayward7905That is why they smother their food hot sauce
26:10 He’s Paul McCartney!
Again, I get so annoyed by the man who is the producer or thinkerupper of QI being so incapable of a philosophical discussion or even to consider he might be wrong (does the falling tree make a sound if there’s no one to hear it). Definitely does not belong as a guest
I agree that John Lloyd is not a particularly good fit for this programme. He is much better placed as the host of BBC Radio 4's "The Museum of Curiosity."
If I wan t to visit the JFK memorial in Runnymead, do I need a passport? (26:42)
No.
My question is whether or not a baby born there would be a US citizen.
@@MuchWhittering That's an entertaining thought! It doesn't look like a very comfortable place to give birth, but I guess it could happen. You're going to have to put a fence around Runnymede like the one on your southern border!
When I was ten I was taught I before e, except after c, except for the exceptions.
Which kind of shows how useless that rule is.
1:21:52 Well I didn't vote for him....
Alan loves to point out how vicious and territorial mankind has been. As if we're any different from any other predatorial animal.
"As if we're any different from any other predatorial animal"
The fact that you're able to write that sentence is proof we are most certainly different from every other predatorial species on this planet, and in a million ways.
@@ct5625 "Darwinian man though well behaved at best is only a monkey shaved".
Someone better than me once said that and basically they're right.
We as a species may have advanced much further than other animals but we're still just another predatory animal and predatory animals tend to be territorial.
Hopefully we'll learn to control those now unnecessary basic urges but it's no surprise or personal shame that our ancestors couldn't.
I hate all this "look how cruel and nasty mankind is, let's all eat tofu and feel guilty about shite we had fuck all to do with".
If a man expresses his opinion in the forest and there’s no woman there to hear him, is he still wrong?
😂
On average a human pushes out 320lbs of poo a year.
How much flies out?
@@zapkvrdepends on how many prunes you have eaten.
Stephen Fry's comments on slavery in the UK just aren't true. It has never been legal to have slaves in the UK, and slaves who arrived in the UK during the transatlantic slave trade were ordered to be released by the courts as you can't be a slave in the UK.
I’m pretty sure Stephen fry could tell me black was infact white and up was infact down, and I would need zero further explanation , I would go around telling everyone I know!!
What about the wildlife. They know. Human doesnt
Was there a sound? Not that i heard. Simple answer.
Its left in the southern hemisphere
Alvera Port
Who is the guy with the long dark hair in the hippo segment? Asking for a friend.
Are you really asking? Or am I falling for a joke? Either way it's Ross Noble.
Would papyrus be considered a book just to be pedantic
WHY IS A FLY CALLED A FLY ?
'A mooty point'? Isn't it a 'moot point'?
Fred Pass
I miss shaun lock 😢
Isn’t “Fish” just a General term like “Mammal” or “Insect”?
Mammal's are born alive and suckle their young
Mammalia and Insecta are both classes, but there is no 'Fisha' class. The point is that the word doesn't really mean much from a biology standpoint. Calling something a fish lets you know that it's probably wet, but anything else you'd like to know about the creature is not really elucidated and would need further identification.
@@DemstarAus Not really.
If someone says “Fish” I automatically know;
1 - It lives in water.
2 - It uses Gills to breath.
3 - It most likely lays eggs (with a few exceptions)
Just like with mammals I know they generally;
1 - Have hair or fur
2 - Use Lungs to breathe.
3 - Give Birth to Live Young (with 1 exception)
How do they know T8 wasn't in water bouncing off the bottom and floating a bit?
The impact depth. Also, footprints would not sustain underwater.
Yeah, not really buying that one without some corroboration.
Also they just said it’s highly likely they were quicker. I’d be appealing that klaxon
Well that was pretty disturbing.
10:00 Slavery Abolition Act f 1833, anyone?
Neanderthal gestation and birth was harder.
30:40 that guys such a boring sod
Field, TAKE THAT LEE!
Back when Eddie Izzard was funny ha-ha rather than funny peculiar.
You’d have to know how many words fit the rule, to see if it’s worth hanging on to.
32:26 ouf that dude is a cringefest
Lee Mack can be such a bore and so abrasive at times .... just not funny when he goes on like that.
Sorry your sense of humor can’t see his , go comment on those you like and don’t watch or comment on those you don’t get ,seems common sense but I find it isn’t very common!
@@jgage2344 😂😂😂😂😂
Used to hate Radcliffe but after JK going off the deep end I now feel bad that he was part of her mess.
Going off deep end? You mean talking complete sense and not giving into modern stupidity.
Lee Mack is hilarious.
That American woman next to Sean might be the worst guest ever
She was on for 3 seconds !
@@CJ-ft9yocouldnt be worse than that twat Julia Morris
God Stephen always has to steal the limelight doesn't he? @8:55
What we come to find out is that Lee Mack isn't funny without recorded background laughter.
The like count on your comment is the number of people who agree with you.
@@Mossy1812 Couldn't give a f**k about how many people agree with me tbh Ethan.
@@jimosborn3411 then why the fuck are you posting an observation to a public fucking forum? Wha? You want people to know how you feel but not care? That’s a weird ego you’ve got, where you feel that what you have to say is important enough to announce to the world, but not important enough for anyone to react to! Do you also shit on the floor in public and scream at anyone who says they mind the smell?
@@jimosborn3411you're not even close.
I mean if you watch any episode of Would I Lie To You, you’ll see he very much is. His mind is VERY quick. Difference is that QI is also about general knowledge and common misconceptions, not just interplay between the panelists. He may be out of his depth on QI but he certainly isn’t only funny with pre-recorded laughter, the Would I Lie To You audiences love him.
One of the worst shows ever conceived
Yet you're still watching clips from it?
I assume the opportunity to be educated whilst also being entertained by well-known and mostly well-liked celebrities doesn't appeal to your personal weird sensibilities...?!
How very dare you!
Have you heard "I'm sorry I haven't a clue"?
@@zapkvr
I hope you're not implying that ISIHAC is a worse show?!!! (It's my favourite - or at least, it used to be my favourite, radio comedy show - when chaired by both the late jazz trumpeter, Humphrey Lyttleton, and thereafter comedian, writer, actor and presenter, Jack Dee) ... 🤔🏴😏🇬🇧❤️🖖
The guy who kept saying ooh "sound is only in your ear" needs to grow up. It makes vibrations, which would cause the effect of someone hearing it, whether or not they do doesnt matter
I recon there was lots of sound before life on earth existed