Great Players of the Past: Paul Keres

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  • @Lembo101
    @Lembo101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    Growing up in the Estonian diaspora meant hearing about Keres being great and all, but no one would give me a 1 hour explanation as to why that might be the case. Thanks Ben!

    • @mno7pro323
      @mno7pro323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Remember the more you donate the more he talks about how great your favorite player is!

    • @ttul-vy7ns
      @ttul-vy7ns 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mno7pro323 does it make Keres less great?

    • @kallebanan1924
      @kallebanan1924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m an Estonian from Sweden and he is a bit of a legend to us. We have a painting of him in Eesti Maja in Stockholm

    • @BaronOfGods
      @BaronOfGods 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kallebanan1924 It is also fair to mention that Keres was pictured in our, Estonian, currency, the five krona bill. He left imho a very good legacy for the whole country along side other well regarded Estonian cultural figures. Albeit chess not being that popular "sport", if you will, I think the fact that we as a nation decided to "immortalise" him, again, if you will, is absolutely astonishing! On that note, thank you for pointing out that Stockholm has Eesti Maja, it will be a top list spot for me to visit next time I am in Stockholm!

    • @kallebanan1924
      @kallebanan1924 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BaronOfGods Palun! You're very welcome to visit.

  • @TheGhrumble
    @TheGhrumble 2 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    For the love of gravy, when Ben dies, someone write him a long, LONG, exagerated, overarticulated Wikipedia artical.

    • @moonbaseryan
      @moonbaseryan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Already on it.. it starts with "Arguably the best player to never be World Champion.. of course it's arguable, you can argue anything."

    • @hideomituns2184
      @hideomituns2184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It will have all of his Finegold rules on it as well!
      He doesn't need a long article. His Finegold rules will enshrine him.

    • @mno7pro323
      @mno7pro323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@moonbaseryan Grandmaster "Ben" Finegold is arguably the best chess player of all time, but not because of his chess... ooh snap!!

    • @thedancingveganatheist6310
      @thedancingveganatheist6310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I agree -- it should be SUSPICIOUSLY long.

    • @Thomas-bz3xt
      @Thomas-bz3xt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A loved this , was in stitches man lol

  • @rubenmatias6126
    @rubenmatias6126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Hey I gave Ben that Keres bank note! My greatest contribution to chess.

  • @Slywolf1992
    @Slywolf1992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    It's very cool that this lecture included that bill with Keres on it.

  • @ivan_7769
    @ivan_7769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Keres is one of my favorite players of all time! been waiting for that video for long ! Thank you so much Ben!

  • @DrJens-pn5qk
    @DrJens-pn5qk ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I learned chess from Keres' books, which were very popular in the GDR. He shaped my style (if you can talk about 'style' when it comes to an ELO 2000 something player).

  • @lukacalov1988
    @lukacalov1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    44:33
    In this position Ben missed a great moment for a "named after Mr Attack joke"

  • @bertross9727
    @bertross9727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Literally just searched 'finegold keres' yesterday watching a middle game video of yours. Had his book 'The Art of the Middlegame' sat on shelf for years, the weird notation slowed me down n was wondering whether it was worth picking up again. Maybe I'll watch this vid now n Finegold out!?

  • @keithwald5349
    @keithwald5349 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For Finns, Estonian is frustrating because it's close enough to sound reasonable, but still different enough to be confusing. I'm not Finnish. I'm just showing Finnish empathy because I'm a caring person.

  • @bigknocker2264
    @bigknocker2264 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love Keres because he was a correspondence chess player, which I did extensively in the 70s after learning the game at the age of 19. When Keres was an unknown player, I recall a chess writer mentioning that other players had no idea of his strength, and were "summarily punished."

  • @pschneider1968
    @pschneider1968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love those lectures! ♟🧡♟🧡♟

  • @zenarrow3356
    @zenarrow3356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice, interesting and informative about a player that I have never heard of.
    Thank you

  • @tarnumj7319
    @tarnumj7319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Keres died shortly after winning a tournament. That's why I make sure never to win one.

    • @SrinivashM29
      @SrinivashM29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why Ben also doesn't win tournaments.

    • @quivalla
      @quivalla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In 1975, Keres won a tournament in Vancouver. It was his last tournament he would ever play. They are having the 46th annual Keres Memorial in Vancouver which ended today.

    • @kirbyculp3449
      @kirbyculp3449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@quivalla
      Who won?

  • @stevemartinish
    @stevemartinish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I played in a Paul Keres memorial in BC once. I won't talk about my results there.

    • @kirbyculp3449
      @kirbyculp3449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a win if you didn't die.

    • @zackcruise
      @zackcruise 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you and Keres had the same score

  • @alanESV2
    @alanESV2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh, he died in Finland, you could say he “Finnished”

  • @Aphixx
    @Aphixx หลายเดือนก่อน

    2 years ago.. and 4k? How did I not notice these have been 4k for so long?

  • @GraemeCree
    @GraemeCree 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Belyavsky didn't really beat 9 world champions, he beat people like Ponomariov and Khalifman who held the FIDE title but were never undisputed world champion. Keres and Korchnoi are the only ones with 9.
    Petrosian beat 8 world champions, but didn't make it 9 because he couldn't play himself.
    I think Reshevsky beat 7 world champions, but never beat Petrosian, Spassky, Tal, or Karpov, even though he played them all at least once. But just to have played 11 world champions must be some kind of record. Up through 1985, Reshevsky had played *every* world champion except Steinitz.

  • @carlmanheim2635
    @carlmanheim2635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great players of the past?!
    Paul Keres?!
    YES PLEASE

  • @ElColombre27360
    @ElColombre27360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, finally! Nobody talks about the unlucky Keres in chess videos, I've been waiting for this for a long time!

  • @dennispresotto5574
    @dennispresotto5574 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fun fact: Since 2016 there also is a 2 euro coin featuring Paul Keres

    • @AriMakela
      @AriMakela 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is a small special edition. I do have the note and the coin :)

  • @MrSupernova111
    @MrSupernova111 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic lecture! Thanks!

  • @koalabandit9166
    @koalabandit9166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Paul: Keres
    Nakamura: not even Keres

  • @ViciouslyBuoyant
    @ViciouslyBuoyant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yay lectures

  • @StrongerThanLogic
    @StrongerThanLogic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paul Keres is a legend 🔥🔥

  • @TheJoaovasco
    @TheJoaovasco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Go Ben! But stay there

  • @ahrrydepp493
    @ahrrydepp493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My fooking favorite series

  • @izzymarz6788
    @izzymarz6788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    keres is the reason i play Qe2 followed by Rd1 a lot

  • @WTBKaraoke
    @WTBKaraoke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    26:40 I think Spasky played Rd8 so he could play Na6 on the next move and not have to worry about Qa4, forking the knight and pawn on d7

  • @kmarasin
    @kmarasin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:57 Spassky became world champion in 196NINE, not 1966

  • @ironman2818
    @ironman2818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One thing I've learned in just the first few minutes, the truth hurts

  • @Mathemagical55
    @Mathemagical55 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spassky wasn't "world champion for many years" before losing to Fischer. He was WC for three years, the shortest period possible at the time.

  • @hideomituns2184
    @hideomituns2184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you sponsor for the game! Ben Finegold is an excellent teacher money well spent!
    Ben Finegold is like the Yojimbo summon in FF10 if you get what I mean.

  • @reybandaying8457
    @reybandaying8457 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love chess because of Paul KERES🎉

  • @hideomituns2184
    @hideomituns2184 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just watched Dan Heisman's FM presents "3 types of chess vision"
    Then watched this. It was fun comparing the two videos in the lens of a class player.

  • @wesleythomas9131
    @wesleythomas9131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go Ben!

  • @cranberogelio
    @cranberogelio ปีที่แล้ว

    does this kind of lectures still hapen with in-person attendance?

  • @nl3064
    @nl3064 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:01 Spassky became champ in '69. Petrosian was still champ in '66.

  • @samuelhumphrey5908
    @samuelhumphrey5908 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow. No game?

  • @SelfReflective
    @SelfReflective 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @9:00 Spassky did not become world champion in 1966. Petrosian retained his title. Shame on you, Ben :)

  • @askthepizzaguy
    @askthepizzaguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    27:40 Threatening the following move (spoiler if correct.... I do not know yet...)
    Always play Bishop F1, which was the point of moving the rook.
    I only got it because Ben says "youre ALWAYS threatening it." Thats a hint. Thanks for the hint, I was paying attention this whole time. I even got better at chess puzzles.
    If you did not say it, I still would have been looking for it because the rook lift could be trying to double up on the bubble up, or, it could be making space. Those are the only 2 reasons that could jump out at me for that rook lift.
    But since you said always, I wasnt thinking lift and double up. Plus the queen is right there.

    • @askthepizzaguy
      @askthepizzaguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice. I mean, the odds of that being wrong seemed long. I dont know where the queen was going after that.

  • @Dybbouk
    @Dybbouk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Personally, I think Keres would have beaten Alekhine (and Euwe) in the late 30s.

    • @romd4031
      @romd4031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keres winning AVRO 1938 was a clear statement that he was next in line for the WCC.

    • @fundhund62
      @fundhund62 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@romd4031Alekhine beat Keres rather handily most of the time (even in the 1940s). I doubt Keres would have had much of a chance in a match. Alekhine was another calibre.

  • @largestcamil4854
    @largestcamil4854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wes Berger who's this guy

  • @jordanbarnett1591
    @jordanbarnett1591 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    don’t know how. but Rb4 was the first move i thought of.

  • @rthmjohn
    @rthmjohn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's ironic that they guy makes fun of jazz as a signature bit uses jazz as the theme music for his videos.

  • @MrCupidd
    @MrCupidd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Arnold Horseshack trying to learn chess?

  • @sjfstreamz5671
    @sjfstreamz5671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He always says trying is the first step to failure so when he said trying is the first step to um ... solving them. Made me laugh

  • @leonardocontreras9690
    @leonardocontreras9690 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paul Keres and Tigran Petrosian are the only chess players that appear on money

  • @jackanderson719
    @jackanderson719 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found a move. Instead of F5 around 19:00 what about Qween D1 check trade Qweens knight E2 capture the c1 bishop and material is equal.

  • @bertross9727
    @bertross9727 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 22m40, if black gets greedy and takes another pawn, isn't the problem after white plays Bc4 more an immediate issue of his king safety than his badly placed rook? Black has Nxe3 forking the queen and rooks, until it gets pinned. I must be looking down a dumb line tbw, think i need a bit more spoon-feeding on that part!

    • @bertross9727
      @bertross9727 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Oissev Onos true dat

  • @DWeirich76
    @DWeirich76 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ben should do a great players of the past on himself.

  • @Alkuf100
    @Alkuf100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who is this Zabó mr GM Ben Finegold was talking about when showing the Keres-Szabó match

  • @user-ts2co4ov5h
    @user-ts2co4ov5h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good videos on great players... But I notice every time you put one of these videos you only analyze their most famous wins which many people are familiar with and are shown in many videos and books... Please find lesser known games.

  • @countingongod3900
    @countingongod3900 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keres in Hebrew is "rhyme" חרז.
    Alekhine in Hebrew is "my nephew" אלהחיין

  • @SenatorBluto
    @SenatorBluto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd hate to play postal against Keres.

  • @donsimons9810
    @donsimons9810 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    radiohead…. meh ok. STP????? oh, Ben you’re becoming my favorite chess guy with jokes like that

  • @giovannicorno1247
    @giovannicorno1247 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keres lost probably the best occasion when Alekhine refused his challenge after Keres won the AVRO 1939.

  • @beloglavisup2
    @beloglavisup2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Next best player of the past, Yusupov.

  • @Admiralmeriweather
    @Admiralmeriweather 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wait I thought Polgar beat that many world champions at least

  • @HughMorristheJoker
    @HughMorristheJoker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice chair

  • @robbrown8483
    @robbrown8483 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    At the risk of sounding conspiratorial, there was no way the Soviets were going to let an Estonian beat their favourite son, Botvinnik.

  • @danielgautreau161
    @danielgautreau161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many world champions did Judit Polgar defeat?

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A lot but didn't defeat all of them in classical. Some were rapid. A lot were also the winner of the tournament they had during the title split like Khasimdinov rather than winning through matches so there were more world champions to play against

  • @predragnikolic3040
    @predragnikolic3040 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul Keres result with Fischer is 2-2

  • @henkoosterink8744
    @henkoosterink8744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still play a6.....

  • @samuelhumphrey5908
    @samuelhumphrey5908 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does Finegold not know we know who Keres is?
    WTF!!!

  • @nuwandalton
    @nuwandalton 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ale-KEEN, for fu** sake!

  • @Dybbouk
    @Dybbouk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice plant in the corner. Alekhine would have pissed in it!!

  • @mothecat776
    @mothecat776 ปีที่แล้ว

    BEN. Paul Keres. Who Keres? your a "pun" loving guy...

  • @sameash3153
    @sameash3153 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some of the best truth hurts jokes

  • @ulrichschmidt5559
    @ulrichschmidt5559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spassky became world champion in 1966?? Ahem... You need to get your numbers straight... Spassky became world champion in 1969...

  • @Dybbouk
    @Dybbouk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of course Bobby called him a 'Russian'.

  • @JosephTruelson
    @JosephTruelson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    RAR!

  • @bomnitoperro9422
    @bomnitoperro9422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is who hikaru thinks he is. But the truth hurts.

  • @philrobertson2995
    @philrobertson2995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spassky was only World Champion for three years.

    • @henkoosterink8744
      @henkoosterink8744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only?

    • @philrobertson2995
      @philrobertson2995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Feingold states that he was WC for "many" years, @@henkoosterink8744.​

  • @chesswars
    @chesswars ปีที่แล้ว

    truth hurts

  • @jasonbeardsley7059
    @jasonbeardsley7059 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow come you’re so knowledgeable, yet so crap?
    The truth hurts!
    Only kidding!!! Thanks x

  • @philrobertson2995
    @philrobertson2995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You don't need to keep saying "the truth hurts".

    • @Evilanious
      @Evilanious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, he does.

    • @fink7968
      @fink7968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You are on the wrong channel if you're gonna get irritated by repeated jokes/phrases

    • @philrobertson2995
      @philrobertson2995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Evidently, @@fink7968!​

  • @celinelorenzo3642
    @celinelorenzo3642 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How can live à lonely nazi on earth,when we are sure that a only ben "that we all love " is alive ?the truth hurts !from south of france with love .