Is It Just OK? Ka-Bar Becker BK-40
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I really like the Bk40 design. Maybe Ka-Bar will do a D2 version like the Dozier in the future
I have the RAT and the BK40. The BK40 has a more beefier look and feel than the RAT, but that RAT is just better put together in my opinion.
Check out the Ontario Utilitac 2 if you want a beefier version of the Rat but from the same company.
Anyone else want the bk40 but in 1095 crovan or d2 and micarta scales out of ka-bars olean ny factory?
I would have liked to see this knife made in the USA in a decent steel (maybe 154 CM) for around $80.
Everyone wants something for nothing.
@@talisikid1618 80$ for an American made knife with 154 steel isn't asking for a miracle. Look at the Gerber Gator drop point. 50$ for a 154cm backlock with an incredibly comfortable grip. Also, you can still one hand open/close it.
That's not the market they are chasing with this knife.
@@CadillacDriver So they're after the market of overpriced Chinese knives? I guess
@@msharmall7298 if that is how you want to look at it. My point was more "it's a budget knife". The OP's specs would at least double the price, probably more.
I like the aesthetics of that BK 40, never connected with the way the rat looks, but damn there's no comparison... give me the rat!
The RAT is a classic. Even with all the new budget blades out there the RAT is still a great blade. But the BK40 does look good. I wish the steel was a little better.
I bought one a few weeks ago. They could do the Becker name way better. A disappointing purchase. I don’t understand how they can call this a hard-use knife with no traditional stop pin. I’d rather them make another one. Use G-10 or Micarta scales. D2 or better steel. And an actual stop pin. What would that cost? 50-70 bucks? I think a lot of people would gladly play that. I know I would.
RAT 1 in D2 probably the best folder under 100 bucks. And the D2 is from what I've heard is a really high quality German D2, it's not CPM but it's up there.
Like the design.Would have preferred Aus 10 steel than Aus 8 and better lockup would be nice,
I noticed a diff between Aus8 and 10a when I replaced my old Voyager with a new one. I don’t have a D2 folder yet. So, if I can get past the Rat1 liner lock, I’ll get one. A big plus with both of these are their metal liners.
I’ll stick with my rat 1 in D2.
It being made in China sunk it for me just out of principle. Why Kabar didn't get the Taiwanese to make it like other budget folders (Dozier, rat-1 and 2) is strange and disappointing.
Agreed.
Agree..!
Love the blade shape. Love the handle design. LOVE the pocket clip. Dislike the handle material. Dislike the blade material. Really dislike the fit and finish issues. Price is good. Despise the China stamp on the top of the blade. I’d grind it out. Wish it was made better and had better blade steel...
They got SO close to making a decent tactical folder. I had just wished we got better steel! … I am a die hard believer that if KA BAR just bit the bullet and released a $70 or up folder, made in the US, with their 1095 Cro Van steel and say either a wooden or G10 handle variant… that people WOULD purchase it. I truly thing the major reason they don’t is fear it would not sell… it just burns me that KA BAR makes these super fantastic fixed blades, yet all of their folders are overseas and cheaper material made knives.
Man id do backflips for a BK-40-1 with 14C28N and G-10 for $50-$60 or an S35VN/micarta for $80-$100 or my favorite a US made 3V/micarta for $140 or less!
Do it really, really well with nice thick liners, T-8 hardware and a coated 3V or M390 blade and id go $200!
I LOVE that design!
Where did you get your sheath for the BK16? I really like the looks and functionality of that, and I'd like one.
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Arron.....mmmm, not for me, Rat model 1 or for an exta few weeks saving, i still like my Ka-Bar Jarosz 7505 folder a lot better. Great video brother. 👍👍👍🏴🏴🏴🍺🍺
I like the look of the BK40, but I have the RAT 1, and I love it. It does the EDC tasks I throw at it, and works in camp when I don't have a fixed blade handy.
Thank you, Aaron. I had this bad boy in my cart this week, and I'm SO glad I waited for your real-use-based review. Love the look. Love the handle. Okay with the steel, for what I want it for. Not okay with subpar cutting performance and questionable fit and finish. I'll pass. Also, I think I need a RAT-1 in D2 in my life.
That Complete Meal looks good. Will look into it. I love that BK 40
Could you please do a comparison video of knives that use the lock back design and knives using the liner lock design? I want to see what you say about the pluses and minuses between the two if there are any. Or, which style lock in general you prefer and why. I typically only purchase lock back knives. I had a liner lock knife disengage while using once and it turned me off to them. I think it disengaged because of the way I was gripping the knife.
AUS8 will be the AUS6 of the future. Nobody wants to have anything to do with it. Also, a liner lock on an outdoorish knife is a bit risky, There was a time when they called these "blade braces", not locks.
The Ontario Rat 1 still retains its title as the OG quality inexpensive knife champion!!!!
Try Ganzo G727. It is even better at a very low price.
Thanks Aaron! Once again I have been wondering about this knife and then you review it. I really like the concept but it looks like they went really cheap. Thanks for the video and info.
Heart of each blade is steel and its heat treatment.
AUS 8 is just too simple for any kind of improvement through heat treatment.
When frequently used, it requires at least stropping on daily basis.
If they wanted to make it cheap, D2 in incomparably better choice.
GT, which would you chose if the house was on fire and you were rushing out and they were both on the table at the door?
Rat-1
I really liked the look and size of the KA-BAR BK40 Becker Folding Knife at first, how the handle is ergonomically shaped, and especially how it has a wire deep carry pocket clip. But what I absolutely can't stand about the KA-BAR BK40 Becker Folding Knife is how you can clearly see "China" written in large black lettering on the spine of its blade!!! I've never seen a knife company write China on the spine of the blade before, doing that is extremely weird and offputting to me!!! Why is "China" written on the spine of the blade? Also, why did it have to be written using such a large black font? Most knife companies which have their knives produced in China are a lot more discrete about it by having the word "China" written in a microscopic font which they place on a much less obvious area on the blade. Why does it say "Olean NY USA" directly under the BK Ka-Bar logo on the side of the bade, but then on the spine of the blade it clearly says "China"? That would be like a Spyderco putting Golden Colorado Earth on the ricasso of their Byrd Knives and then having China on the spine of the blade!!! I'm not upset about where the KA-BAR BK40 Becker Folder is made(China). I'm upset about how Ka-Bar decided to billboard "China" on the most obvious part of the knife which is the spine of the blade!!! Another question, why is the KA-BAR BK40 Becker Folding Knife made with AUS-8A blade steel? The Ontario Rat 1 with D2 blade steel costs the exact same price as the new KA-BAR BK40 Becker Folder which uses AUS-8A blade steel and you can get the AUS-8A version of the Ontario Rat 1 for $5.00 cheaper than this new KA-BAR BK40 Becker Folder. In my opinion, the Ontario Rat 1 is still a better choice than the KA-BAR BK40 Becker Folder because for the same price you're getting a Taiwan-produced knife with better steel(D2) that doesn't have "China" obnoxiously written on the spine of its blade!!!
Neat. I did this review over a week ago and had a similar conclusion
Made in China.. I try to avoid that, when I can. RAT Model 1 is made in Taiwan. I really like the RAT 1.
I feel the same way a lot of other people seem to feel, I like the design and I would definitely get one and even pay 2 or 3 times the price depending on material if it was made in America or somewhere besides China.
Great video Arron but I am sticking with my RAT model -1.
Pocket book? Your grandma and grandpa must have been a big influence in your life.I love it.
Ethan- please do a big honking folder knife. Love to see something similar to a Buck Csar-t!
I want to see the outer limitless knife in action.
I would get one but only with a black coated blade and clip. I'll wait and hopefully they'll make blacked out ones. Also if the blade play is fixed.
They have a bk 40 on knife center in d2 with gray scales
Just picked one up and I really love it.
It's a fine knife no doubt. I like it so much I'm thinking about getting another one. Outstanding review and perfect for either edc or shtf. Ka-bar hit a home run on this
AUS-8 can hardly get through half a day before needing edge work, its 2021, there is no need to continually use the lowest grade stainless you can... These "American" companies using garbage steel are quickly loosing their following because they are not advancing. It's why companies like CIVIVI are so popular, good materials, good quality and a good price. Ka-bar is a well known name but they don't make anything that gets the masses excited, and that Becker 'wave' has been rode out...
I REALLY wanted to like this knife when I saw it a few weeks back. Up to this point, I've been enamored with just about anything that has Ethan's name on it. For years now, when it comes to my folder, I can't seem to pick-up anything but a 110 Slim Select (*even having more premium and expensive options available)...and was hoping to find something to throw into the mix, to add a little variety. From what I remember, you really liked the 110 Slim Select. So, if you read this, please riddle me this...If I should score one of these BK-40s, will I be horribly disappointed if the only thing that's been in my pocket is a 110 Slim?
Yes. The BK40 is a $20 knife at most. I was so disappointed when I got mine. Love the design, execution is not good though. It is functional for sure, but as Aaron said there is lock rock. Compared to my Aus8 Rat, which was $28, the Rat is so much higher on the quality and fit and finish. Why Kabar didn't get this made in Taiwan I don't understand. It would have been a home run and would have easily been worth $40. I love my Beckers, but they need to up the game on this knife badly.
Love my BK16. Have owned it over 5 years. Not sure I would EDC the BK40. My Leatherman Wave+ just takes care of way too many tasks on the farm to replace it in my pocket.
I have the Rat1 but do not have the BK 40 to compare it to. The blade wobble was a bummer to hear about. That was a deal killer. Like the beefier look of the BK 40 over the Rat but given the info on both would probably go with the Rat over the BK.
I like the blade shape but the handle not so much. Looks way too slippery for outdoor use
Hey great video brother! I also have the rat 1 in olive drab color one of my favorite knife...i also have the cold steel Rajah 3 knife i was wondering if you cold do a video on that thanks brother
Rajah 3 is awesome! Blade shape is just so good at edc tasks.
@@michealbates6369 that it is i use it for edc and for my work also great knife
Thanks! I had the Becker on my list but toy showed me my rats are good enough. Thanks !
Cool knife. Sure want one.
I have one. It's an ok work knife, but would be so much better if they used a better steel. The handle is extremely comfortable, the blade is attractive as well as useful, but AUS8 is not going to hold it's edge for long. The market is chock full of sub $50 Chinese made D2 or 14C28N knives, so I see no reason for KABAR to skimp on the steel and use AUS8. I love the design. I don't think I have a folder with a more comfortable handle. I can even live with the plastic scales, but I'm very disappointed in their blade steel choice.
How'd you think the handle will perform in wet jungle conditions?
As I said slick but ergonomic
@@gideonstactical Referring to grip in those rainy and wet conditions.
Also, would you be willing to do a video on knife sharpeners? Best sharpeners from speed sharpeners to whet stones etc; quick, effective, pros and cons of each?
I do wish they would make more stuff in the US
Nice review, nice comparison. Interesting grip design, especially compared to the rather generic design of the Rat 1. I really like the idea of a RT 1 with contoured grip and wire clip. In either case, a flipper would be nice.
Great review. I have been looking at this knife and I was really surprised it is made in China.I always associate aus 8 with Japan and Taiwan manufacturers
Same here. Kind of weird
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I think it's the politics of it, when/if China invades Taiwan they don't want any interruptions in production. Too bad too, I kind of view Taiwanese folders as "Japanese precision for made in China prices" where I don't have to cry if I lose it lol.
@@scottm5972 China prices? Sure, for some knives. When it comes to Spyderco, Taichung are their high end, and have the prices to match. Great knives.
I really really want to like it because I absolutely love the fixed blades. But I think they really sold themselves very short with materials, and, the fact that it's made in china. I think they should've kept the whole Becker family made in the USA.
I love how the Ka-Bar Becker BK-40 has plastic thumb studs, I wonder how long they will last.
Already have a D2 Rat 1.
I would love to see a BK40 made with better materials. I like the handle and pocket clip, that's a win for me
Currently knifecenter offers a version of this in D2 steel. Price just $50. You should check.it out
I was not aware that a knife review could be so boring
Thanks for the feedback
I love the overall shape and aesthetics and I especially love the shallow clip point blade. I like AUS-8A steel just fine. I’d prefer well heat treated 440C or as an upgrade 14C28N or my favorite budget steel, D2.
There’s a lot to like about this one but it sounds like they dropped the ball with execution. And $37?
I can get the standard RAT-1 for $20!
Or a D2 model for $35-$40!
Enough said.
Man I love it’s looks though!
It’s a shame they couldn’t do it right.
the BK40 and the bk line design always seems like a heavy duty use knife but with a liner lock i'm not so sure
Same issues with liner locks. Too many stories of slipping off the tang. Thinking of Hogue HK Exemplar and Hogue Sig Nitron, but if we think a $10 difference between an old-in-the tooth RAT and latest, first-run BK40 is a problem, Hogues are even more expensive.
Wish they did a back lock or mid back lock on this knife would have been perfect
Liner lock is never going to cut it for hard use, not even with D2 blade. Wire pocket clip is bomb though.
If I didn’t already have a RAT I’d consider this.
Great design however now that Way of Knife has M390 reblades for the Rat it is no contest. I hate when you see a fantastic knife and find out it's made out of cat shit and wet newspaper. Why not 14c28n at the same price point. Even chippy D2 would work. A huge missed opportunity.
L ol I member when I had a folder lol
Get the Voyager Large over this, literally better in every respect - steel, blade shape, lock, construction
I feel like the large voyager is the best affordable knife I've ever bought. I've got Civivi's, I've got the Rat 1, I've got Case, I've got Buck. But, I think the Voyager line is just a better value all rolled into one package no matter what. One of my all time favorites for sure.
I wish it was ffg,1095 cv, and a lock back. It could be a great out door folder.
Rat is a better package
Nice low price, and the rugged look goes well will its fixed blade siblings, but the liner lock disqualifies it for rugged use. I guess it looks like what a Voyager actually is.
El passo; rat 1 instead; thinner behind the edge and price; plus I'd rather a mora for outdoors.
I have a BK40. It’s a good blade but I would prefer to see it made of 1095CV and made in the USA because it is a Becker and being made in China takes away the pride of the Becker name
Have have carried mine everyday since I got it and love it.
I just found the rat to be...more comfortable, and honestly a better knife.
If it ever comes out in a better steel Imma buy them by the hand full they'll make great gifts for morons at work that are to stupid to buy their own
Hello everyone, I change knives every week. Last week I wore an Esee AVISPA in D2, the week before it was a Viper Fortis in m390 and now it's a Rat1 in D2 in my pocket. I really like the design of this Becker knife. I don't know the AUS8, not having knives in this steel grade. I really like the "bite" of D2. But what I don't like at all is that this knife is made in China. Just for that I will not buy it. I own very few Chinese knives, I haven't bought this kind of blade for years. I prefer to pay more and buy in countries whose companies pay their workers correctly. Sorry for my English, I speak French ...
How did someone dislike this video. It just came out a minute ago. You disliked it before even watching it... what a troll
I know right, it's pure spite.
Ka Bar really needs to shift away from the Becker lineups... it holds them back just because the BK2/16/9 are sellers
Ka-bar Gila VS BK40!!! I don't personally like thumb studs. I stick to flippers or those cutouts like the Gila. :D
I feel John and the folks at Ka-Bar are using this as barometer for the market. I truly believe there will be a US made version eventually. Ethan has wanted a folder for a long time and he's not getting any younger. This was a way to make that dream a reality until a viable US producer can be found. It won't be cheap when it's US made. Despite all the folks that claim they want it made domestically, less than half will drop the coin when/if it happens.
That BK-40 looks robust.
At the 7:14 mark in this video, you can clearly see "China" stamp on the spine of the blade on the Ka-Bar Becker BK-40.
They literally missed the boat by not making this in The US and at the very minimum. Taiwan….I’m a huger Becker fan. I might still pick this up but Meh.
I want to like it.. but after that? yeah, no mate!
Good review. I try not to buy knives made in communist China. I'll take the RAT (made in Taiwan).
Completely agree. The Becker looks the better knife but not at the price of enriching the enemy of freedom.
Where did you watch this video? Phone or computer, have a look into where the chips and components came from... probably China.
@@discorrect it's very possible to deny china knife sales though. And every bit hurts them.
Exactly. I’ll support free Taiwan over china whenever I can. Somethings you just can’t help getting from China but knives are not one of those things.
It needs different colors..
The bk40 blade looks fantastic the handle looks really plain where as the rat blade looks retarded to me but the handle on it is fantastic i think they should perhaps have a love child then there would be a top seller
My vote goes to the RAT1.
Make a flipper and Ill buy
Yeah, pass for me on that BK. Rather pay more for something better. Cheaper is often...well...cheaper. So it goes.
Made in China is no go, combined with cheap steel. No way. It looks like a gas station special TBH.
I really want to like this knife but made in China is a deal breaker for me. I will still buy some imports, just not from China. It's just a personal choice .
Would never buy a Chinese knife, American made only for the quality and long term performance.
Agreed 100%, for fixed blades, but oddly, the US can't seem to offer a folder for a reasonable price though.
USA production knives are usually ridiculously overpriced.
Ok for $37 I have no complaints. I’d try it out for that. Need something decent not too expensive to beat on.
Get the RAT instead
No lockblades for me thanks haha.
Hate wire clips. Have has several Milwaukee ones break.
ultra thin liner lock. junk.
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I was interested till, I saw china
No excuse for American companies using Chinese manufacturing when we have Taiwan and others. For the price and materials, hell no it shouldn't be made in China.
No Chinese made knives for me.
Subbed. Congrats on almost 200K. Please do some watch content 🙏.
Bk-40 made in China..Aus 8.. Rat 1 is a better knife.. I would have much rather seen Ka-Bar Becker make everything in the USA. I would have rather paid the extra for USA made. I have the Dozier which is a good knife, and the 5cr13mov piece of junk Ka-Bar sales
So bummed. ANYWHERE but China! Pass.