Miyeon and Shuhua have always had this relationship. They love to tease and quarrel it doesn't mean one loves the other any less. If Miyeon ever felt hurt she would talk to Shuhua. They're all best friends/sisters. So persons who aren't familiar with Gidle i suggest you don't judge based on a few persons opinions. Gidle are really good at communication within, there's no need to over think.
Mi Yeon We all notice that this bothers her, but Shuhua is clearly a bully and enjoys hurting her. I remember when Miyeon appeared on her birthday during a broadcast two years ago when a fan asked her to ask the members to stop harassing her and said, “Do you think that if I asked them to stop harassing me, they would?”
@@ezh7057 because like if it's real then it should have went absolutely viral. even the slightest hints of quote-unquote 'bullying' among members gets popular and all netizens literally JUMP at the opportunity to start controversies, if she really said something like that then it should be all over the net
Yeah! The person who has done this video has done zero research and has no understanding of idle and its members. Just report such videos. All they do is spread non-existent hate.
Shuhua isn’t “savage” for publicly degrading miyeon constantly. Only you Shuhua stans think that. The rest of us are tired of her behavior. It’s why TJ stopped being pushed. Being horrible to your members isn’t savage nor a personality trait
They are not Tom and Jerry, its that Shuhua bully Miyeon. Its not funny or cute at all. She is just so rude. I dont think that Shuhua is a good person. She is kind of bully. That explains why she loves Soojin so much. Bully loves bully. I also got bullied at highschool days so i can notice who is bully or which behavior is bully. Please dont defend her.
@@Moon_white_ you’re right about Shuhua but wrong about soojin. Miyeon always says soojin is the one she’s closest to and relies on. Frankly I wish Shuhua left the group instead of soojin….
@@bunnylight9400 I dont know so much about Soojin. I just know her bully news and evidences about this topic. I think Soojin is not the same type of bully as Shuhua. Shuhua is the one who is always rude and selfish type and who show people this. She is the type of "im the queen of this area and just shut up", like totally child, immature, just think about herself. But i think Soojin is different than her. She is close foxy type more. You cant know her bullies without her permission. The one who act. Only people that who are bullied by her can know her. The type who is sly and hide herself. Thats my impressions. But unfortunately im really good at this cuz of my bad experiences. Sorry but i think thats what it is.
Shuhua's comment about wanting to be on the thumbnail is a direct reference to an I-TALK during HWAA era and it has been an inside joke in the fandom ever since. Don't just hear something and run with it without fully understanding what you're talking about
@@bunnylight9400 just for you to say that i already know that you are not a true fan of gidle, just one more hater. Miyeon shows so much love to shuhua and shuhua for her. Is such a shame this behavior of your....
@@anaclaudiaalves5918 Just ignore them. If someone really wants to spend their time hating on people and leaving petty comments... Nothing we can do about their childish behavior
People commenting “y'all never had friends?” like- have YOU ever had funny and kind friends? Y’know, where you can joke around and uplift each other. The opposite of Shuhua...if not then that's sad 😬
Have you seen their interactions? Shuhua and Miyeon get along just great. Shuhua even told Miyeon that some “fans” were being rude to her and saying things about Shuhua being ugly. Kinda sad how you can’t bother to do research 🤦♀️
When you realize who made the video knows nothing about the group lol... we love Shuhua for that and many other reasons, it’s part of their dynamic as a group, and her voice is beautiful, and probably she’s the one who has improved more her dancing skills, but some talentless people put a finger on her just because she’s not korean, we love Shuhua and the haters can go to hell...
ikr.. it's funny and stupid at the same time when they know nothing about the group but blame the members🤣 or maybe video creator just want to get more views for the video by making a nonsense video
@@bunnylight9400 You are the only one I ever hear say that, but I’m not surprised, she’s the one who got more hate even in their own fandom, the one who needs to grow tfu it’s you and realize almost everyone in the group is like that, it’s the way they are, and if you don’t like it maybe this group it’s just not for you....
@@gabrielbalderas2073 Shuhua gets babied by the fandom if anything lmfao. It’s miyeon & Soyeon who get the most hate. It seems your new to neverland bc she’s literally gotten criticized for treating miyeon badly before. Everyone is NOT like that. I’ve never seen the other members degrade miyeon like that. This dynamic explains why nevies have no respect for miyeon and are comfortable making jokes that ended up hurting her. The other members have a level of respect for each other. Shuhua has none for miyeon and I’m a pre debut neverland. I have seen all their content including vlives
@@bunnylight9400 I’m a pre debut nevie as well and I know probably the one who loves Shuhua the most after Soojin is Miyeon, I never hear hate from the Nevies to Miyeon, and the hate against Soyeon is from other fandoms for jealousy, Yuqi is like that with everyone but Soyeon, clearly you have an issue with Shuhua but not all the nevies think like that and obviously the members ether, a lot of times Shuhua has referred to Miyeon as her big sister, I don’t know if you have brothers and sisters but sometimes is just like that, you don’t know their relationship in a personal level, and judge someone just for what you see in the screen is just superficial, it’s ok if you don’t like how she is on camera, but hating on her like that you are doing exactly the same you got a problem with other people hating on Miyeon or Soyeon.... just saying
yall ready to throw hands on her but remember: they trained together, Shuhua and Miyeon always were acting like that on cameras, we can't say what is going on behind
I'm not really a neverland...but I like G-idle. I don't really know much about their relationship with each other but this just seems like friendly teasing to me. It really doesn't seem like a big deal to be discussed.
Yeah that’s the problem lmfao Shuhua has gotten criticized for this thing since debut. She goes too far with miyeon many times- one time miyeon even got upset and left during vlive but minnie brought her back
@@bunnylight9400 well Shuhua is always like that... She is not being rude or something she loves to do that to her members.. And Miyeon and Shuhua are also known as tom and Jerry of the group because of their rivalry. So pls tip spreading hatred to Shuhua and spreading fake news about her.. If you don't like her it's okay but you have no rights to disrespect her and say blah blah about her........ Please, she didn't work hard and went through alot to be hates for these stupid reasons
@@njdsack exactly, in the vlive miyeon got mad at minnie cuz minnie didn't give two shits if miyeon was sulking or got hurt as a joke, she got mad at both in that vlive but since shuhua didn't knew what she said in Thai I don't blame her lmao (and then everyone blame it on shuhua when minnie started the fcking joke and apologized, shuhua didn't need to apologize, plus I'm not hating on minnie that's just what happened)
Miyeon is my bias from the day they debuted. She is so underrated among the other members, and every member alway picked on her (especially Shuhua) in my opinion. Im as a fan, of course felt so sad looking at my bias being treated like that. But i can see that Miyeon is so strong and she did not take their actions seriously and have any hard feeling to them. But surely they will be quarrel with each other, but I never see Miyeon being disrespect to her members. She always being kind. Shuhua ya, please respect your unnie. Its different from being savage and disrespectful.
There are many moments with Shuhua praising Miyeon! Like that one VLIVE where Shuhua comments on how kind Miyeon is, and in that video from when they debuted, she talks about how pretty Miyeon is. There are lots of moments where Shuhua is kind to Miyeon, like when she sleeps next to her in a most recent video that was released, but Nevies find their Tom-and-Jerry dynamic funny, so they only ever talk about that. Actually, if you look properly, you will see many videos where Shuhua loves Miyeon a lot. Please don't listen to videos like these. Look, even this video of Shuhua saying "I love you" to Miyeon: twitter.com/YSHFILE/status/1445359575218077701?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ Or this birthday video for Miyeon. twitter.com/hiikiddo/status/1487972461740060673?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ Or this video, where Miyeon herself says that they show their love by fighting. twitter.com/eden_idle/status/1210978167436926976?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ Or the video where Shuhua praises Miyeon's talent by constantly calling her "Power vocal"! twitter.com/idlelovelies/status/1253667105594986512?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ "Miyeon has distanced herself from Shuhua," That is a blatant lie, some of these videos are from TOMBOY era, or recently!
Bruh anyone who has seen any (G)I-DLE content knows that Shuhua always acts like that. She's the savage baby of the group and we love her for it. Miyeon and Shuhua are wildly known as Tom and Jerry because of their 'rivalry'
That’s the problem, u tolerate her bad attitude and treat her like a baby when she’s a freaking adult. She’s the reason why nevies lost respect for Miyeon because she always disrespect her in front of the camera.
@@miyeonshimecut3138 touch grass, make some friends, learn joke with your friends, come back and look at this video, you'll realize that they're clearly best friends joking around each other
@@하냥-l7e Do you even know that Miyeon said on Universe pm that she feels uncomfortable with nevies calling her stupid, dumb and clumsy? That brat Shuhua always calls her those names that’s why fans learned to disrespect her too.
@@miyeonshimecut3138 this is obviously fans fault, shuhua and miyeon are friends, they can joke with each other like that but nevies and miyeon aren't friends, that's why she's uncomfortable with nevies calling her those, fans should know their limit as a fan and shouldn't treat idol like they know their idols personally, if someone I don't know personally calls me stupid, dumb and clumsy, I'd be uncomfortable too, I'm sick of fans treating their idols like they're friends with their idols.
@@miyeonshimecut3138 u must not joke around with ur friends if u have any. Nevies are literally toxic so please. They lost their OWN respect from miyeon, not bc of shuhua
@@Respect-sf4tm you know that Shuhua is joking right? All this came out of an I-TALK, who "fought" for Soojin, with all respect, I don't think you know the group well, did you see the live where Miyeon said her opinion about the members?
@@stay_with_skzneverlandcub7296 You are right, I don't. I just know this group because of Miyeon. And there are a lot of people like me btw. Miyeon always says good things about her members. And this is exactly the problem here. The fact that Miyeon always praises Shuhua, being nice to her, but Shuhua consistently downplays everything Miyeon does. Shuhua is very nice to Minnie, Soyeon & Yuqi and said a lot of nice thing about them on-camera. But tell me one time where Shuhua said one nice thing about Miyeon on vlive or i-talk. Again, I know Shuhua is a good friend off-cam but the way she never stop discrediting Miyeon on-camera becomes a bit disrespectful. Other members tease Miyeon too but they know to give credit where it's due.
@@Respect-sf4tm it's okay if that's your opinion, but I wanted to make you understand that neverland bothers enough, that someone says something without knowing (G) I-DLE don't judge.
@@Respect-sf4tm lolololololol "downplays", "discrediting", "disrespect" 😂😂😂😂 You must be that funniest guy in your circle (if you have one) hahahaha😂 You barely know anything about them yet you have the guts to describe her feelings about this situation lololololol 🤣🤣🤣
@@brew798 Where exactly did I described her feeling? But since you mentioned about her feelings, Miyeon just said on her Universe earlier this year that she's dissapointed when someone called her MiHa (a word created by shuhua meaning Miyeon is stupid). This is one example that shuhua's action indirectly hurts Miyeon's. People will not name-calling MiHa if Shuhua didnt said it in the first place. The fact that this is not the only time shuhua has been called out for ''downplaying, discrediting, disrespecting" Miyeon means something. I'm not even criticizing her lack of talent as a singer (I know she must have work hard to improve) just hoping for her to be nicer to Miyeon. I never see her said anything good about Miyeon on-camera. And she seems have no problem praising Minnie, Soyeon, Yuqi.
You have no clue what you’re talking about lol. It’s clear you’re not familiar with their sarcastic and teasing relationship. And to comment such horrible things about Shuhua’s talent is disgusting. Each of the girls are incredibly talented! And Shuhua is hilarious.
@@mkboulahamed741 ok and lets talk about how Shuhua being a peacemaker in 1thek show when Miyeon and yuqi fighting and when minnie and yuqi quarrelling in that video. You love to see the “bad” things that Shuhua do which mostly comedy act but didnt see when she mostly has been protecting her members 🥴
@@mkboulahamed741 And what about all the times the exact same thing happened but with different members. You don't hear anyone talking about those times because it happens all the time, it's normal. What do you expect to happen when you put 5 amazingly talented crack heads together
Its funny when non-fans making a big deal out of this 😂 miyeon and shuhua literally called themselves as TJ (Tom & Jerry) because they love to quarrel with each other like in the cartoon. If you want to make a bad news about Shuhua, why don’t you want to make a good news about her when she’s protecting Miyeon in 1thek show. Shuhua been protecting Miyeon in that video and being a peacemaker when Miyeon been quarrelling with Yuqi and when Minnie and Yuqi fighting about MBTI. Y’all love to pick on Shuhua so much since debut for the littlest thing and its so annoying 🤬
Fans who are biased towards Shuhua are nicknamed Tom and Jerry to hide what's going on between them and the truth is that Shuhua is bullying 😒poor MiYeon.
@@ezh7057 byeee. Its not fans who gave them the nickname. They literally introduce themselves as such and fans has been using it until now. There’s even an interview about them both with marie claire korea with title TJ 😂 watch more of their italk videos and stop talking about the group when you dont know anything.
@Iram Steve well I do agree on that because Minnie also did said how can you say that to the MC of the show lol but I think considering how mnet edit the video and highlight Shuhua’s disappointment, I guess they also enjoy the humor that Shuhua added to the video.
The reason why Shuhua is criticized for her behaviour towards miyeon is not because of this video alone. It just the fact that she is always rude to Miyeon while Miyeon never even once disrespect Shuhua on any show. Shuhua has no problem praising other members but everytime she mention Miyeon, it's always bad things about Miyeon. It's like, to Shuhua, there is nothing about Miyeon that you can appreciate. It's getting uncomfortable the way she treats her oldest member. Watch all the italk and you will know why.
@@aheedle I will be glad if you can tell me when did Shuhua said these. Because I'm sure you made up this stuff. It's easy for me to find Shuhua saying nice things about Soojin, Minnie, Soyeon, Yuqi. But it is like impossible to find any moment where shuhua said nice thing about Miyeon.
@@gdmepsg1539 Here it is! And these are only SOME examples, there are many more. There are many moments with Shuhua praising Miyeon! Like that one VLIVE where Shuhua comments on how kind Miyeon is, and in that video from when they debuted, she talks about how pretty Miyeon is. There are lots of moments where Shuhua is kind to Miyeon, like when she sleeps next to her in a most recent video that was released, but Nevies find their Tom-and-Jerry dynamic funny, so they only ever talk about that. Actually, if you look properly, you will see many videos where Shuhua loves Miyeon a lot. Please don't listen to videos like these. Look, even this video of Shuhua saying "I love you" to Miyeon: twitter.com/YSHFILE/status/1445359575218077701?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ Or this birthday video for Miyeon. twitter.com/hiikiddo/status/1487972461740060673?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ Or this video, where Miyeon herself says that they show their love by fighting. twitter.com/eden_idle/status/1210978167436926976?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ Or the video where Shuhua praises Miyeon's talent by constantly calling her "Power vocal"! twitter.com/idlelovelies/status/1253667105594986512?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ "Miyeon has distanced herself from Shuhua," That is a blatant lie, some of these videos are from TOMBOY era, or recently! There is also more of Shuhua calling Miyeon pretty and whatnot, blablabla. Edit: Also, they literally kissed in a video a couple of days ago. 😭
ugh. Miyeon is the best vocalist in the group and has such a beautiful and unique voice, and her visual is top tier. Idk about Shuhua because I don’t know how is their relationship, but I can say how Miyeon is treated like shit in the international fandom. It’s like they just ignore her. If I had to defend her I'll do
I promise you, Miyeon will not be upset. They always have this sibling dynamic where they squabble a lot, it’s quite sweet. Secretly, they love each other a lot, it’s evident in other videos. Don’t listen to haters! There are many moments with Shuhua praising Miyeon! Like that one VLIVE where Shuhua comments on how kind Miyeon is, and in that video from when they debuted, she talks about how pretty Miyeon is. There are lots of moments where Shuhua is kind to Miyeon, like when she sleeps next to her in a most recent video that was released, but Nevies find their Tom-and-Jerry dynamic funny, so they only ever talk about that. Actually, if you look properly, you will see many videos where Shuhua loves Miyeon a lot. Please don't listen to videos like these. Look, even this video of Shuhua saying "I love you" to Miyeon: twitter.com/YSHFILE/status/1445359575218077701?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ Or this birthday video for Miyeon. twitter.com/hiikiddo/status/1487972461740060673?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ Or this video, where Miyeon herself says that they show their love by fighting. twitter.com/eden_idle/status/1210978167436926976?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ Or the video where Shuhua praises Miyeon's talent by constantly calling her "Power vocal"! twitter.com/idlelovelies/status/1253667105594986512?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ "Miyeon has distanced herself from Shuhua," That is a blatant lie, some of these videos are from TOMBOY era, or recently!
I won't say anything about the other stuff but like the question who's the slowest at learning choreo should be banned fr Also all 5 of them look so pretty💅
Shuhua doesn’t have bad attitude to her fans. Fans r sometimes rude and she puts them in their place they say rude and inappropriate things n make them do things they don’t want to do. She steps up n tells them to back up it isn’t rude it’s standing up for ur self
@@mgkmasterrace Koreans actually prefer Shuhua, since she fits more into the KBS than Miyeon. Also they prefer her because she was the original visual.
@@kpopjenniie you're obviously feeding into your delusions lol. Koreans don't need to tell you this unless you're slow but her body type is considered there as fat, not to mention the ones on her face. She's given the "visual" status cause she don't have any talent to make up for the other titles that they have available.
You can have a “sarcastic/sassy” personality but I have noticed Shuhua can be so childish at times. I do admire her bravery for standing up for herself and members, but she can be rude at times, especially towards Miyeon
How? They promised her (shuhua) that she would be on the thumbnail, a promise is a promise. I’ve been promised something many times just for someone else to get it instead, it’s highly infuriating when that happens. Why bother make a promise when you can’t keep it?
Ngl Shuhua did not improve a lot since her debut, her vocal and dance are bad, she has no stage presence, she doesn’t improve in korean too while Yuqi who is also chinese, is literally fluent in korean and she has a bad attitude. Shuhua is not a good idol.
Her singing and performance skills are better than the average netizen. She is more talented than most netizens can do behind a screen *Replies for fried netizens*
You'd better not comment like that. How can you come up with such a lame comparison? She used to be a trainee and has 4-5 years of experience as an idol but her skills still haven't improved, it's true, there's no denying it. I'm sorry, but the cover dance is good and the facial expressions are good too. As for the singing part, oh my god, at least my grandson sings with the right melody and rhythm. Maybe your best friend sings better than her lol. By the way, the contestants in My Teen Girls have Soyeon as their coach, aren't their skills better than shuahua? :))
I’m a debut nevie and Shuhua has always been rude with miyeon but miyeon is too nice to say anything. It wasn’t until maybe Dumdi Dumdi era that miyeon started hanging out with yuqi more and distanced herself- I prefer that duo and MiMin.
This made me laugh LIKE CRAZY lmao- Shuhua and Miyeon are literally just messing around, this is just how they are. In my opinion, why you people don’t like Shuhua is because she is one of the few idols who didn’t change her personality for the camera. Do you really think all your idols/biases are all so ‘nice’? You know this is their JOB so most idols do have a fake personality. Moreover, we all know how mnet’s editing makes it seem worse than it really was. There are lots of vids of Shuhua praising miyeon. Most probably you never cared to search it up :)
@@angelixchae yes they are and btw the whole “savage maknae” thing and being rude, then calling it “real” and calling girls who are kind “fake on camera” is misogynistic as fuck. Most of shuhuas fans are like that, which is not surprising at all and I’ve seen y’all call miyeon fake. The truth is that miyeon has been a sweetheart since debut, all her schoolmates and anyone whose ever interacted with her has said that. shuhuas only personality trait is being obnoxious, loud & rude to her members. Lmao and?? There are lots of bad idol relationships where they’ve had good moments too 💀 doesn’t mean Shuhua doesn’t overdo it for the camera. Also yeah it’s funny you said that considering one of the reasons Shuhua overdoes it is for the literal camera like in i-talks. Nevies hyped her for it but when she got backlash they stopped doing TJ I-talks but sadly her personality still shows. Keep denying it but I’m betting you’re a new stan if you can’t admit this. Shuhua stans giving pick me energy lmfaoo like being rude doesn’t mean you’re “real” 😹 a real dick maybe! None of the members changed their personality for the camera, idle are one of the realest groups out there. Shuhua just has a bad one. You’re dragging down the other members and calling them fake just bc they don’t degrade their fellow members. Edit: MNET EDITING?? I know you’re ass just started stanning them cause mnet does not edit i-talks. Cube staff does. Maybe you should actually watch an i-talk before giving your 2 cents
@@nogamenolife1901 I’m a pre debut nevie and have seen ALL their content- including all reality shows and I-talk. no one is confused and there’s a reason they stopped pushing TJ I-talks. TJ was just an excuse for Shuhua to treat miyeon terribly. Anyways I have always felt like this and so have most miyeon fans & nevies who stopped being in denial. It isn’t just based off this video but the last 4 years.
Yes they are. But Shuhua needs to learn there are times where you just need to appreciate your best friend instead of keep downplaying her. Miyeon is the MC of the show, so it's very dear to Miyeon's heart to win the game. To make this worse, Miyeon is always nice to Shuhua and there is not a single time Shuhua ever said nice thing about Miyeon.
@@baliwparasayo3524 Yes, I'm referring to her actions on-camera. I'm sure she is a nice friend bts. But, as a friend, she should know how special for Miyeon to win the game on her own show.
lmao if you are a true neverland, you'll know why miyeon and shuhua's duo is named after Tom and Jerry. They aren't named tom and jerry for nothing. They like to tease and quarrel with each other a lot but behind the cameras they treat each other like sisters. Stop making it weird. Shuhua has always been like that lmao
We are not talking about the feelings or the treatment of the team members. I know that the members are close to each other and even joke around with each other sometimes. But on TV, please be a little more moderate :) But clearly in this video, throughout the video is the shuahua's bad attitude. If you are joking, you will only joke for a while, but then your expression will return to normal. But no, shuahua's expression clearly shows displeasure and disrespect to the senior in the group even the youngest member? You didn't notice in the original video at 1:08 that yuqi pushed her hand to get shuahua to sit down and said that let's start the game to stop her, and at 6:02 shuahua rudely pointed at miyeon and said with said with rude attitude, 6:04 yuqi stopped her from continuing to talk by feeding her, and 6:10 yuqi motioned for shuahua to keep quiet. Why does she have to prevent and hide shuahua from doing that if it's normal in the group? Because she knows shuahua overdoes :)) 🙃
You say that you know they are joking, but then you call it Shuhua’s bad attitude? You make no sense. Shuhua is just acting for the camera! Other members do this too, like Soyeon and Yuqi, but people only have issue with Shuhua. It is just a joke, and clearly Miyeon is fine with it. If Miyeon is fine with it, then you have no right to be upset, because you’re not Miyeon. In other recent videos, you can see how much Miyeon adores Shuhua, and vice herds, which shows neither is upset.
@@aheedle So why do people focus on shuhua or "overthinking" about shuhua and not the other members when the fans have clarified that their relationship is so good? :)) (I really don't know when it comes to the attitude scandals, it's always shuahua :). Can u explain it to me?) Don't confuse bluntness with ungainly, overdoing it. I know I have no right to be angry on behalf of miyeon because I'm not her, I'm angry for myself :)) Because of her weak skills, even though I really enjoy watching gidle's performance, When it comes to her, in part, I feel frustrated. And I'm not a fan either, so just ignore it. But when I read the scandals about her, I couldn't ignore it anymore. The combination of her weak skills + scandalous attitude makes it impossible for me to love or forgive her. Joking around but keeping it under control, she's obviously the youngest member but joking with her unnies like friends of the same age? And how do you know miyeon is not thinking? You're not her either :)) And if you ask miyeon if she's upset why she doesn't say it or show it, it's miyeon very nice? She'll let it go. Or maybe she's annoyed too, but she's not as thoughtless as shuahua to show it on TV.
@@puka2138 It’s okay to be frustrated by Shuhua’s performing skills, but you shouldn’t let the fact that you’re upset about her performing dictate how you feel about her personality. Just because she might be a weak performer (actually she has gotten so much better this era) doesn’t mean it’s okay to think she’s a bad person. Also, you’re right, I don’t know what Miyeon is truly thinking, but that’s not our place to know. All we know is that Miyeon is okay with it, because that’s what she’s said. Why should we ignore what Miyeon has TOLD us, and speculate how she feels? That’s not fair on Miyeon, we’re just ignoring her then. We should listen to Miyeon if she says it’s okay, because it’s what she said, even if it might not be true, we don’t have a right to ignore her because “Miyeon might be pretending”, because that is speculation. You shouldn’t speculate on this when the idol in question has given you their answer. Miyeon has said before that Shuhua is the most interesting person she has ever met. In I-TALKs, it’s so obvious how much they adore each other. Actually, think about it like in K-DRAMA when the lead pretends to dislike their love interest, but secretly cares about them a lot. You ask why Shuhua’s attitude gets the most criticism, it’s because people pay attention to her because they think she lacks performance ability, so they want to see what she brings to the group. What she brings is her variety ability, because she’s very, very funny. Her relationship with Miyeon is a part of this, and fans find it funny because it is funny. The way MiShu act is exactly how I act with my friends, so it makes me laugh to see. Look at it like this, I will say some “mean” things to my friends, and if other people heard this, they would say- “How could you be so mean?!” But my friends would laugh and think it was funny, because they know I am joking. So my friends would say to the angry people “Oh, no, it’s okay, I don’t mind!”. So now the angry people know that we are just joking, they have no right to say “I bet you’re secretly upset!”, because my friends have told them how they feel, they don’t have the right to speculate on their feelings. It is the same with Miyeon. Miyeon has told us how she feels, and we shouldn’t speculate beyond that because it is private. Also, Miyeon said she doesn’t like it when FANS call her “Miha” (a nickname Shuhua made that means “Miyeon Pabo”) but that’s only FANS. Of course, she is fine, and found it funny when Shuhua said it, because they are friends! For example, my friends call me ugly, or they say I’m a bitch, and it’s okay, it’s funny, because we’re friends, but if a random person on the internet said this to me, or somebody who is not my friend said this to me, of course, I would be upset! Because they don’t know me, they are not my friend. It is the same with MiShu, I tell you. They have been like this since debut, if Miyeon really didn’t like it, Miyeon would have told Shuhua off camera, and Shuhua would have stopped it, no? I feel sorry for Miyeon because people like you make her out to be this weak person, who is a push-over and pathetic. Why do you make her out to seem so weak and small? Isn’t that an insult to Miyeon’s character? Of course, Miyeon would have said something to Shuhua if she did not like it, and Shuhua would have stopped. But it has been four years (five since they met each other), and they still act like this with each other, because it’s what they are comfortable with. There are many videos of Shuhua loving Miyeon, they even kissed in a recent promotion, hahaha, why would they do this if they weren’t friends? Miyeon even said that she knows how Shuhua truly feels on the inside. There are many idols like Shuhua, for example, Sooyoung from SNSD was the savage one, just like Shuhua! Back in the 2nd Gen of kpop, people weren’t as sensitive as you and others, so they didn’t constantly make scandals out of Sooyoung’s savageness, because they know she truly loves her members, just like Shuhua. But there are many male idols in this day and age, that do the same as Shuhua, and I wonder why nobody talks about them? Why does nobody discuss them? Maybe it is not the same for you, but many people who criticise Shuhua are misogynistic, and just want to hate on women, and it is easiest to make fake rumours about Shuhua’s attitude, which may also be why she has attitude scandals a lot. That is a reason too. It has happened to many female idols, like Yeri, and Nayeon, and now Shuhua too. There are so, so many moments of Shuhua loving Miyeon, like I showed you some, but people choose to ignore them so they can hate on Shuhua. Isn’t that ridiculous? I don’t think this is true, but if Shuhua is bullying Miyeon, then I could also say Miyeon is harassing Shuhua by constantly trying to hug and kiss her, even when Shuhua pushes her away. Obviously, I don’t think this, but it’s just an example of her exaggerated and ridiculous it is.
ok i get where she always does this with her members cause that is what she is known for, but in there recent comeback (ifeel) she was being informal and rude with the host jj? for an idol like her you don't go around being informal to your seniors. If it's with the group and they are ok with it then yes but for her to do this with host on shows its not ok and y'all shouldn't try and say "shes the savage baby of the group" no shes a grown ass women who knows what is respectful and whats not.
Don't tell me it's funny and hilarious or just a joke when it's clearly wrong. Not just once or twice, but many times. And not only with the group members, but even with the fans, there is such a rude attitude. It's also because fans say it's funny or "savage" lol. That's why she continued like that lol. Well, it's in the fandom so I don't even care so I just ignore it. But please don't have an attitude scandal every time you come back :) Honestly, aside from Soojin's scandal, doesn't every comeback have shuahua scandals? :)) If it is not a weak skill, it is also a lack of standard working attitude. I support gidle and listen to every song. At first, I thought she was pretty and felt sorry that she sang so little. But every comeback has scandals and the most noticeable thing is that her skills still haven't improved so I comprehend why she sings so little :) Loving an idol is not an excuse or a cover-up of the idol's mistake but to advise or do something for the idol to practice harder and improve.🙂 Sorry for my poor English ☺:))
Keep in mind everyone, we don't know what's happening behind the camera. All I know is that they're doing a concept where they're called Tom and Jerry, basically Miyeon is Tom, then Shuhua is Jerry.
First- shushu don't have a mean attitude she just feel uncomfortable with question- soyeon- is a normal leader so not too much on soyeon. Minnle is herself- yuqi is just trying too stop shushu for trying too let the others can speak miyeon is juat nice and kind and a very high popularity- ex member soojin- ia Nice and the dancer of the team abd nice too shushu
People are mad annoying. Shuhua ain’t a bully, she’s straight forward. She got promised to be in the thumbnail, the least they could do is put her on it since she’s also the visual. Y’all talking about her “disrespecting” Miyeon when that’s how they act with each other. Funny how non of you know how close they actually are.
It's funny that they call rude an idol when they are just being honest and dare to say what the others don't. Shuhua actitude is amazing because she is real and don't fake just to fit in the "idol expectations". Most fandoms tell their favs to be expresive, but when they are they are criticised. .... The hypocrisy
Tbh Only the super bias fan of miyeon (a lot), k-netz or not a fan of Idle will find this very disrespectful or rude. Shuhua Loves ALL HER MEMBERS. ALL MEMBERS LOVES SHUHUA. This is just the thing they do. Miyeon is old enough to stop shuhua if she's not ok with it. Gosh, Miyeon Looks a Goddess but not a baby. You don't have to protect her that badly and attack her baby shuhua. She won't like that.
Nah I’m ot6 nevies since pre debut and shuhuas behavior is out of hand. Shuhua is old enough to not disrespect her members. She acts like a fucking child and you Shuhua stans baby her- knetz were right about that. And miyeons reaction is a lot of the time is enough to say that.Shuhua fans are as toxic as Shuhua is to miyeon.
watch this video miyeon and shuhua have a playful relationship th-cam.com/video/98Z1jCrjfiQ/w-d-xo.html and im pretty sure they wouldn’t be as close as they seem if shuhua “attitude” is true and mean
Did you see what shuhua said yesterday about Miyeon and called her weak when she asked about the members' performance?? In fact, I am not surprised by Shuhua , because she clearly seems to be a rude person , I just wonder how fans are still defending her and applauding her while seeing her despise another member of the group.
@@mkboulahamed741 if shuhua was a rude person she wouldn’t have called out the online trolls that made fun of one of the members. shuhua can be blunt and is playful. we are only fans, so u shouldn’t go around saying she rude bc we don’t actually know her lmao
YALL CHILL THEY WERE JOKING, Miyeon and shuhua are really good friends and if you've ever had a rlly good friend, you would know that friends would joke around and say "mean" stuff to each other as jokes, Shuhua and miyeon are doing just that and theyre both known as "tom and jerry" for theyre rivalry, so yall should just sit and calm the hell down because they're being a normal person Look at nore clips of Miyeon and Shuhua, youll see that theyre really good friends
shuhua has always treated miyeon really bad but fans don't want to see that.. it's good to talk about it, .. Nice person like miyeon shouldn't be bullied.
Bro shut up Miyeon and Shuhua, they're both called Tom and Jerry , They call themselves that. 💀 and they role play. Because after that, they are affectionate and love each other very much. if you ain't a real nevies then go away.
Yeah she's so bad to Miyeon that during the behind scenes of their online concert Miyeon decided to name her "Yeh hope" because she's literally always supporting her and the members all the time. Even more in moments of tension and seriousness when they feel nervous. They're just playing around 🤷🏻♀️
Yes Miyeon is nice. You're not. Try to learn from Miyeon! The best thing about I-DLE is their friendship and Shuhua & Miyeon's friendship included. It's not your place to judge someone else's relationship.
@@bunnylight9400 Miyeon is the one taking advantage, did you see Miyeon literally going all in for that pepero game? 🤣🤣 Keep being delulu and obsessed with hating Shuhua for having what you won't ever have.
Just leave them alone, u guys don't know what relationship they had, if you follow their content from the start Shuhua and Miyeon had Love-hate relationship, if you know nothing stop talking like you know everything about them, if you don't like them that way then just leave and find other idol that suit ur taste, is that easy rite rather bashing shuhua with no reason.
Some of y’all clearly haven’t seen the Vlive of Shuhua literally summoning Miyeon and telling her about a rude comment, and how Miyeon basically said “how could you say that to this face?” like a sweet, protective older sister defending her baby lmao Ofc things can change over time, but don’t act like Shuhua hasn’t always be a bold and “savage” type of personality, or like you haven’t seen them bond just fine many times before.
Shuhua openly discredit Miyeon in shows. Miyeon does not. Miyeon openly praises Shuhua on vlive, i-talk, shows, interviews. Shuhua does not (not a single time) Shuhua openly praises and shows affection towards all members EXCEPT Miyeon. These are the reason why some people is not ok with how shuhua treats Miyeon. The fact that Miyeon is still and always be kind to Shuhua says more about how much of a sweetheart Miyeon is.
@@heartforall5853 Where should I start? Can you recommend me a few videos where Shuhua saying nice thing about Miyeon. I'm ready to change my mind if you can show me a video where Shuhua praises Miyeon.
@@malcolmx7297 here's the thing. She's doing it for comedic purposes. You do realize that she's doing it in front of the camera. Btw, they have a duo called TJ, which means Tom and Jerry. If you still don't know the concept of T and J, then you really don't have the right to criticize her.
@@malcolmx7297 @Malcolmx you have the right to have your opinion. I just think it's not your place to tell Shuhua off. Miyeon will say so if she thinks so.
@@malcolmx7297 th-cam.com/video/UZDSpQBlSU8/w-d-xo.html look at miyeon's part. You can see that she doesn't have a problem with it. Shuha also told Yuqi off for saying Miyeon was not kind in real life. In my opinion, as long as Miyeon doesn't mind it, we should also not make a problem out of it. You will only trouble Miyeon thinking like that. I understand that you want to stand up for her, but you're not really helping when you make problems where there are none.
Its not about the bratty maknae concept btw. I have no problem if she act like this to all members but shuhua only look down continuously on miyeon. She says a lot of nice things to all members except miyeon. It's been 4 years and there is literally not one time shuhua has said good things about miyeon. She had no problem calling miyeon an idiot (on Secret Folder and even created an idiot nickname for miyeon) or even described miyeon as the ugliest person on earth (in To Neverland episode) while miyeon has said nothing but nice thing about her.
@@malcolmx7297 Well of course she would, Miyeon is the oldest! That's a dynamic as old as time, little sisters and older sisters. If she teased everyone she would really come off as mean. That's why they are T&J. To say Shuhua has never complimented Miyeon, or that she's never nice to her is just flat out untrue. When they had their Marie Claire shoot together, Shuhua was asked why the magazine chose them and Shuhua suggested it was because her and Miyeon were the prettiest (she has also called Miyeon cute/very cute on multiple ocassions). They were asked about their 'Tom & Jerry' nickname and Miyeon explained how Shuhua also cares for her: "Even though she's just teasing and playing around, sometimes she comforts and takes care of me." Shuhua also clearly respect Miyeon a lot as she has said that Miyeon is the one she will talk to when she is sad or worried. That's another classic aspect of a youngest/oldest relationship. You have the biggest level of teasing, but also when it comes to the crunch, as a younger sibling you know your oldest can help you in a pinch.
@@dmore Minnie and Miyeon are literally the same age. They are both known as the eldest of the group and i'm sure you know how entirely different shuhua treats miyeon and minnie. Where is that oldest youngest TJ dynamic with minnie? Thank you for that Marie Claire example. Good to know. But I think you quoted it from the magazine article not from the uploaded interview video right. The thing about magazine article is that, they will edit your words to make it nice and more presentable. I've been interviewed by a local magazine before and you will be amazed how much they twisted my words to make it more readable. Still, I believe shuhua had said that and that's cool. It's just that, it's absurd to me that there is not even one video where shuhua said this stuff about miyeon when there are plenty videos of her praising, hyping other members. Since you mentioned the Marie Claire shoot, here is another thing that disappoints me when miyeon had to work with shuhua. Shuhua always gives a hard time to cooperate with miyeon whether its photo shoot or video filming. Miyeon did a vlive right after the Marie Claire shoot was released and Miyeon said that there were not a lot of couple shoot of her and shuhua because it didnt look good (if you see the couple shoot, you will know why, shuhua's posed like she didnt like to shoot with miyeon). Another time was during Dumdi Dumdi filming. Miyeon said on italk 68 that shuhua supposed to have a scene with her where shuhua should served a drink to miyeon but shuhua hates that scene. As far as I know, that scene got cut from the official MV. Same thing again with the Dazed Korea shoots released few days ago. It seems like shuhua didnt even want to be in the same frame with miyeon in that photoshoot. I mean do you really need to bring the TJ agenda in a real work stuff? There's a line for a friendly teasing and when you are overdoing it, it will come out as disrespectful.
@@malcolmx7297 Miyeon was born January, Minnie October, so there is almost a year between them. Miyeon is the eldest which is a significant factor in Korean culture (although to be fair not as big within this specific relationship as I think idol groups often act more similarly to equally leveled ‘friends’ as they’d put it). The simple answer to why she’s not the same with Minnie is that they are different people. Miyeon and Shuhua are both over the top, kinda chaotic types, which adds to the T&J dynamic. Minnie has her moments of course but generally (and certainly on her own) is way more chill. The more complex answer is that from a promotional stand point it doesn’t make sense to have two relationships that are too similar. We have to remember we see caricatures of their personalities, not their dead to rights irl ones. They play up the dynamics they have as it adds to the content and entertainment for us as fans. Take Soyeon and Yuqi for example, they often tease one another as well but it’s well known that Yuqi has a deep respect for Soyeon as an artist. Because Shuhua is the “bratty maknae” she teases with more of an biting edge than say Yuqi does with Soyeon. Though Yuqi can get kinda crazy too, she does it more just by being really loud lol As for the photos together not working, I honestly think your seeing more layers to it than there are. It is likely their combo photos just didn’t turn out well because a) let’s face it Miyeon is another level of pretty when it comes to modeling and b) Shuhua isn’t as skilled in that kind of thing so they probably just didn’t look great. Even in the recent comeback material, Soyeon was seen/heard coaching Shuhua through her photos. You can see even in their solo photos that Shuhua isn’t quite at the same level yet in terms of getting that “look” bang on (no hate to her though, her photos still look good and she tries really hard for which she should be credited, she just happens to be in a group of absolute baddies). If anything, there might perhaps be a touch of jealously. Shuhua maybe feels pressured being the youngest, so being in duo work with Miyeon might be tough as Shuhua can be very self critical and puts herself down sometimes (was heartbreaking seeing her in tears after the Lion stage on Queendom thinking she’d done bad when she’d absolutely slayed). Being with your older member, who is model level pretty and a main vocalist when you’ve struggled with your vocals, that might add a touch to her teasing. I don’t think there is much to that though, I’d imagine if anything it’s be more insecurity. We can never truely know. I think it’s more likely just a really good dynamic that’s built up and it gets people invested (as this conversation demonstrates), talking, giving nicknames etc, and so it’s a relationship that, while rooted in reality, is played up a touch for dramatic effect (just like Soyeon and Yuqi). The main thing is we should support all our girls and the group as a whole, to push on to even greater things now they’ve come back so successfully.
She never been funny or savage to me she just disrespectful especially to words miyeon who’s the eldest one in the group her joke and act’s just to much and miyeon so nice to stop or argue about it she needs to stop hope netizens make her release how bad her actions is
You such a haters...im going to report this channel...if u don't know them well don't make any stupid content..u will get charge if cube ent take action on you..
SHUHUA es mi bias no solo por su talento y porque es hermosa sino por su personalidad única y divertida, ella es así, le gusta llevarse, se ríe de sus propios chistes, es una bebé, sólo hay que conocerle lo suficiente antes de hablar.
Seriously, don’t make an unecessary issue. People who are not fans of gidle, trust me, you’ll laugh this off when you get to know them. Don’t take buy this negative energy. 🥴🥴🥴
They're tom and jerry for a reason tho.. Hahahahaha.. At least she's not fake idol.. I meant she's the realest idol.. She never treat a fan that bad like others said.. Cuz mostly the viewers of her live video is her haters tbh.. Lol.. They keep talking shit about her and asked her disrespectful things.
People are mad that shuhuas becoming more confident, if you were really a fan you would know that even when soojin was in the group still she acted like this towards Miyeon and it’s clearly not because she’s rude they’re just joking
What does soojin absence have to do with Shuhua rudeness towards Miyeon ?? Yes, Shuhua has always treated miyeon this way and has not improved with the years, even Cube has stopped making TJ content, and still that Shuhua continues not to show any good feelings towards miyeon
All I’m saying is that it’s clear that they aren’t actually hurt by eachother if you really think Miyeon is hurt by shuhuas actions, go cry about it🤷🏾♀️
How can you guys not recognise they are joking. They are all literally sisters. These girls have been training together for years and consider each other as siblings. They have gone through a lot together so I don’t think anyone can speak on their relationship. Shuhuas personality is being loud and much more than that. They both care for each other so much. Does anyone remember when Shuhua went live with Miyeon and someone called Shuhua ugly. Miyeon then said how can you call someone this pretty ugly. They obviously care for each other so much! Please don’t question a groups dynamic and friendship when all you see is what is posted online which is a very minimal part of their actual lives.
it's true! She's so sweet and caring with everyone, to the point that she's always cheering for them when they're nervous or tense 🥺 she always shares wise words with the fandom, all kinds of counseling and own experiences. I actually learned from her a lot because of that. She helped me to grow as a person even when she's younger than I. That's how mature she is. So don't just assume the worse out of her for acting like a child from time to time. They all do, that's how I-dle is, it's their charm. And there's nothing bad about it. Their relationship is healthy even when they tease each other often 😊
Let’s not take this serious.Don’t say anything if you don’t know them well. They’ve always been like this ever since debut. That’s why we call them TJ.
Did you know that they're a duo called TJ and they acknowledged it? Shuhua basically does it for comedic purposes only and when in front of a camera. You would be surprised on how close they are in real life.
STOP MAKING ISSUE ABOUT THEM SERIOUSLY,,, THIS JUST SHOW YOU DONT KNOW THEM THAT MUCH WHATSOEVER AND OUT OF THE GROUP SHUHUA IMPROVED THE MOST ESPECYIN HER DANCING SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, STOP MAKING THINGS LIKE THIS BIG
Miyeon and Shuhua have always had this relationship. They love to tease and quarrel it doesn't mean one loves the other any less. If Miyeon ever felt hurt she would talk to Shuhua. They're all best friends/sisters. So persons who aren't familiar with Gidle i suggest you don't judge based on a few persons opinions. Gidle are really good at communication within, there's no need to over think.
Mi Yeon We all notice that this bothers her, but Shuhua is clearly a bully and enjoys hurting her. I remember when Miyeon appeared on her birthday during a broadcast two years ago when a fan asked her to ask the members to stop harassing her and said, “Do you think that if I asked them to stop harassing me, they would?”
@@ezh7057 can I get a link to this cause it rlly sounds like you made it up, no offense
@@ezh7057 because like if it's real then it should have went absolutely viral. even the slightest hints of quote-unquote 'bullying' among members gets popular and all netizens literally JUMP at the opportunity to start controversies, if she really said something like that then it should be all over the net
@@Jafi9 you don't know whether it's an excuse or actually the truth tho 🤷🏻♀️
Yeah! The person who has done this video has done zero research and has no understanding of idle and its members. Just report such videos. All they do is spread non-existent hate.
Miyeon and shuhua Like Tom and Jerry😂😂😂I dont have any problem for that☺
Shuhua isn’t “savage” for publicly degrading miyeon constantly. Only you Shuhua stans think that. The rest of us are tired of her behavior. It’s why TJ stopped being pushed. Being horrible to your members isn’t savage nor a personality trait
yeah, but not being Fake Is not always a good thing if that enables you to be rude
They are not Tom and Jerry, its that Shuhua bully Miyeon. Its not funny or cute at all. She is just so rude. I dont think that Shuhua is a good person. She is kind of bully. That explains why she loves Soojin so much. Bully loves bully. I also got bullied at highschool days so i can notice who is bully or which behavior is bully. Please dont defend her.
@@Moon_white_ you’re right about Shuhua but wrong about soojin. Miyeon always says soojin is the one she’s closest to and relies on. Frankly I wish Shuhua left the group instead of soojin….
@@bunnylight9400 I dont know so much about Soojin. I just know her bully news and evidences about this topic. I think Soojin is not the same type of bully as Shuhua. Shuhua is the one who is always rude and selfish type and who show people this. She is the type of "im the queen of this area and just shut up", like totally child, immature, just think about herself. But i think Soojin is different than her. She is close foxy type more. You cant know her bullies without her permission. The one who act. Only people that who are bullied by her can know her. The type who is sly and hide herself. Thats my impressions. But unfortunately im really good at this cuz of my bad experiences. Sorry but i think thats what it is.
Shuhua's comment about wanting to be on the thumbnail is a direct reference to an I-TALK during HWAA era and it has been an inside joke in the fandom ever since. Don't just hear something and run with it without fully understanding what you're talking about
No it’s not lol.
@@bunnylight9400 just for you to say that i already know that you are not a true fan of gidle, just one more hater. Miyeon shows so much love to shuhua and shuhua for her. Is such a shame this behavior of your....
@@anaclaudiaalves5918 Just ignore them. If someone really wants to spend their time hating on people and leaving petty comments...
Nothing we can do about their childish behavior
shuhua stans are really blind
@@mel7993 so if someone says something you dont agree with that is automatically hate? omg you are just some woke fans that cant stand criticism
People commenting “y'all never had friends?” like- have YOU ever had funny and kind friends? Y’know, where you can joke around and uplift each other. The opposite of Shuhua...if not then that's sad 😬
EXACTLY 👏👏👏
Have you seen their interactions? Shuhua and Miyeon get along just great. Shuhua even told Miyeon that some “fans” were being rude to her and saying things about Shuhua being ugly. Kinda sad how you can’t bother to do research 🤦♀️
When you realize who made the video knows nothing about the group lol... we love Shuhua for that and many other reasons, it’s part of their dynamic as a group, and her voice is beautiful, and probably she’s the one who has improved more her dancing skills, but some talentless people put a finger on her just because she’s not korean, we love Shuhua and the haters can go to hell...
ikr.. it's funny and stupid at the same time when they know nothing about the group but blame the members🤣 or maybe video creator just want to get more views for the video by making a nonsense video
No we don’t. We hate this dynamic and Shuhua needs to grow tf up and realize that bringing others down isn’t humor.
@@bunnylight9400 You are the only one I ever hear say that, but I’m not surprised, she’s the one who got more hate even in their own fandom, the one who needs to grow tfu it’s you and realize almost everyone in the group is like that, it’s the way they are, and if you don’t like it maybe this group it’s just not for you....
@@gabrielbalderas2073 Shuhua gets babied by the fandom if anything lmfao. It’s miyeon & Soyeon who get the most hate. It seems your new to neverland bc she’s literally gotten criticized for treating miyeon badly before. Everyone is NOT like that. I’ve never seen the other members degrade miyeon like that. This dynamic explains why nevies have no respect for miyeon and are comfortable making jokes that ended up hurting her. The other members have a level of respect for each other. Shuhua has none for miyeon and I’m a pre debut neverland. I have seen all their content including vlives
@@bunnylight9400 I’m a pre debut nevie as well and I know probably the one who loves Shuhua the most after Soojin is Miyeon, I never hear hate from the Nevies to Miyeon, and the hate against Soyeon is from other fandoms for jealousy, Yuqi is like that with everyone but Soyeon, clearly you have an issue with Shuhua but not all the nevies think like that and obviously the members ether, a lot of times Shuhua has referred to Miyeon as her big sister, I don’t know if you have brothers and sisters but sometimes is just like that, you don’t know their relationship in a personal level, and judge someone just for what you see in the screen is just superficial, it’s ok if you don’t like how she is on camera, but hating on her like that you are doing exactly the same you got a problem with other people hating on Miyeon or Soyeon.... just saying
yall ready to throw hands on her but remember: they trained together, Shuhua and Miyeon always were acting like that on cameras, we can't say what is going on behind
Obviously, off camera they are girlfriends
@@njdsack facts didn't ya'll saw this april fools content?
I'm not really a neverland...but I like G-idle. I don't really know much about their relationship with each other but this just seems like friendly teasing to me. It really doesn't seem like a big deal to be discussed.
Tbh Miyeon and Shuhua are known as tok and Jerry of the group in fandom.. Their relationship had always been like that they love teasing each other
SHES ALWAYS LIKE THAT TO HER LMAOOOOOOOO, are u new? Or are u really want them down so much? Lmao this is hilarious
Yeah that’s the problem lmfao Shuhua has gotten criticized for this thing since debut. She goes too far with miyeon many times- one time miyeon even got upset and left during vlive but minnie brought her back
@@bunnylight9400 well Shuhua is always like that... She is not being rude or something she loves to do that to her members.. And Miyeon and Shuhua are also known as tom and Jerry of the group because of their rivalry. So pls tip spreading hatred to Shuhua and spreading fake news about her.. If you don't like her it's okay but you have no rights to disrespect her and say blah blah about her........ Please, she didn't work hard and went through alot to be hates for these stupid reasons
@@PriyanshuKumar-ez6qi “she is always like that” is the problem…. She needs to grow tf up she’s not a baby
@@bunnylight9400 Minnie also Teases Miyeon and they never say anything.💀
@@njdsack exactly, in the vlive miyeon got mad at minnie cuz minnie didn't give two shits if miyeon was sulking or got hurt as a joke, she got mad at both in that vlive but since shuhua didn't knew what she said in Thai I don't blame her lmao (and then everyone blame it on shuhua when minnie started the fcking joke and apologized, shuhua didn't need to apologize, plus I'm not hating on minnie that's just what happened)
Miyeon is my bias from the day they debuted. She is so underrated among the other members, and every member alway picked on her (especially Shuhua) in my opinion. Im as a fan, of course felt so sad looking at my bias being treated like that. But i can see that Miyeon is so strong and she did not take their actions seriously and have any hard feeling to them. But surely they will be quarrel with each other, but I never see Miyeon being disrespect to her members. She always being kind.
Shuhua ya, please respect your unnie. Its different from being savage and disrespectful.
Super Biased you mean.
Shuhua needs to stop behaving like a child
There are many moments with Shuhua praising Miyeon! Like that one VLIVE where Shuhua comments on how kind Miyeon is, and in that video from when they debuted, she talks about how pretty Miyeon is. There are lots of moments where Shuhua is kind to Miyeon, like when she sleeps next to her in a most recent video that was released, but Nevies find their Tom-and-Jerry dynamic funny, so they only ever talk about that. Actually, if you look properly, you will see many videos where Shuhua loves Miyeon a lot.
Please don't listen to videos like these.
Look, even this video of Shuhua saying "I love you" to Miyeon:
twitter.com/YSHFILE/status/1445359575218077701?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ
Or this birthday video for Miyeon.
twitter.com/hiikiddo/status/1487972461740060673?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ
Or this video, where Miyeon herself says that they show their love by fighting.
twitter.com/eden_idle/status/1210978167436926976?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ
Or the video where Shuhua praises Miyeon's talent by constantly calling her "Power vocal"!
twitter.com/idlelovelies/status/1253667105594986512?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ
"Miyeon has distanced herself from Shuhua,"
That is a blatant lie, some of these videos are from TOMBOY era, or recently!
bro- what's the problem with joking around with your unnie? people are so sensitive nowadays ☠️🤚
@@Osiriis ikr
Bruh anyone who has seen any (G)I-DLE content knows that Shuhua always acts like that. She's the savage baby of the group and we love her for it. Miyeon and Shuhua are wildly known as Tom and Jerry because of their 'rivalry'
That’s the problem, u tolerate her bad attitude and treat her like a baby when she’s a freaking adult. She’s the reason why nevies lost respect for Miyeon because she always disrespect her in front of the camera.
@@miyeonshimecut3138 touch grass, make some friends, learn joke with your friends, come back and look at this video, you'll realize that they're clearly best friends joking around each other
@@하냥-l7e Do you even know that Miyeon said on Universe pm that she feels uncomfortable with nevies calling her stupid, dumb and clumsy? That brat Shuhua always calls her those names that’s why fans learned to disrespect her too.
@@miyeonshimecut3138 this is obviously fans fault, shuhua and miyeon are friends, they can joke with each other like that but nevies and miyeon aren't friends, that's why she's uncomfortable with nevies calling her those, fans should know their limit as a fan and shouldn't treat idol like they know their idols personally, if someone I don't know personally calls me stupid, dumb and clumsy, I'd be uncomfortable too, I'm sick of fans treating their idols like they're friends with their idols.
@@miyeonshimecut3138 u must not joke around with ur friends if u have any. Nevies are literally toxic so please. They lost their OWN respect from miyeon, not bc of shuhua
idk about anything and I won't judge anyone but i only know one thing that miyeon is really very kind and a sweet person..
this is what you call being human which most of you wont understand.
she'll be the realest kpop idol you'll see.
@@Respect-sf4tm you know that Shuhua is joking right? All this came out of an I-TALK, who "fought" for Soojin, with all respect, I don't think you know the group well, did you see the live where Miyeon said her opinion about the members?
@@stay_with_skzneverlandcub7296 You are right, I don't. I just know this group because of Miyeon. And there are a lot of people like me btw. Miyeon always says good things about her members. And this is exactly the problem here. The fact that Miyeon always praises Shuhua, being nice to her, but Shuhua consistently downplays everything Miyeon does. Shuhua is very nice to Minnie, Soyeon & Yuqi and said a lot of nice thing about them on-camera. But tell me one time where Shuhua said one nice thing about Miyeon on vlive or i-talk.
Again, I know Shuhua is a good friend off-cam but the way she never stop discrediting Miyeon on-camera becomes a bit disrespectful. Other members tease Miyeon too but they know to give credit where it's due.
@@Respect-sf4tm it's okay if that's your opinion, but I wanted to make you understand that neverland bothers enough, that someone says something without knowing (G) I-DLE don't judge.
@@Respect-sf4tm lolololololol "downplays", "discrediting", "disrespect" 😂😂😂😂
You must be that funniest guy in your circle (if you have one) hahahaha😂
You barely know anything about them yet you have the guts to describe her feelings about this situation lololololol 🤣🤣🤣
@@brew798 Where exactly did I described her feeling?
But since you mentioned about her feelings, Miyeon just said on her Universe earlier this year that she's dissapointed when someone called her MiHa (a word created by shuhua meaning Miyeon is stupid). This is one example that shuhua's action indirectly hurts Miyeon's. People will not name-calling MiHa if Shuhua didnt said it in the first place.
The fact that this is not the only time shuhua has been called out for ''downplaying, discrediting, disrespecting" Miyeon means something. I'm not even criticizing her lack of talent as a singer (I know she must have work hard to improve) just hoping for her to be nicer to Miyeon. I never see her said anything good about Miyeon on-camera. And she seems have no problem praising Minnie, Soyeon, Yuqi.
You have no clue what you’re talking about lol. It’s clear you’re not familiar with their sarcastic and teasing relationship. And to comment such horrible things about Shuhua’s talent is disgusting. Each of the girls are incredibly talented! And Shuhua is hilarious.
Did you see how soyeon and Yuqi dealt with the situation??
Her behavior is no longer a joke
@@mkboulahamed741 ok and lets talk about how Shuhua being a peacemaker in 1thek show when Miyeon and yuqi fighting and when minnie and yuqi quarrelling in that video. You love to see the “bad” things that Shuhua do which mostly comedy act but didnt see when she mostly has been protecting her members 🥴
@@dkwla_
@@mkboulahamed741 And what about all the times the exact same thing happened but with different members. You don't hear anyone talking about those times because it happens all the time, it's normal. What do you expect to happen when you put 5 amazingly talented crack heads together
@@dkwla_ great job
Its funny when non-fans making a big deal out of this 😂 miyeon and shuhua literally called themselves as TJ (Tom & Jerry) because they love to quarrel with each other like in the cartoon.
If you want to make a bad news about Shuhua, why don’t you want to make a good news about her when she’s protecting Miyeon in 1thek show. Shuhua been protecting Miyeon in that video and being a peacemaker when Miyeon been quarrelling with Yuqi and when Minnie and Yuqi fighting about MBTI.
Y’all love to pick on Shuhua so much since debut for the littlest thing and its so annoying 🤬
Fans who are biased towards Shuhua are nicknamed Tom and Jerry to hide what's going on between them and the truth is that Shuhua is bullying 😒poor MiYeon.
@@ezh7057 byeee. Its not fans who gave them the nickname. They literally introduce themselves as such and fans has been using it until now. There’s even an interview about them both with marie claire korea with title TJ 😂 watch more of their italk videos and stop talking about the group when you dont know anything.
@@ezh7057 this is considered bullying?!?! Holy moly then me and my firends are the anti Christ
yeah when she fought against miyeon
@Iram Steve well I do agree on that because Minnie also did said how can you say that to the MC of the show lol but I think considering how mnet edit the video and highlight Shuhua’s disappointment, I guess they also enjoy the humor that Shuhua added to the video.
The reason why Shuhua is criticized for her behaviour towards miyeon is not because of this video alone. It just the fact that she is always rude to Miyeon while Miyeon never even once disrespect Shuhua on any show.
Shuhua has no problem praising other members but everytime she mention Miyeon, it's always bad things about Miyeon. It's like, to Shuhua, there is nothing about Miyeon that you can appreciate. It's getting uncomfortable the way she treats her oldest member. Watch all the italk and you will know why.
Shuhua has said lots of nice things about Miyeon! Like commenting on how kind Miyeon is, calling her pretty and whatnot, etc.
@@aheedle I will be glad if you can tell me when did Shuhua said these.
Because I'm sure you made up this stuff. It's easy for me to find Shuhua saying nice things about Soojin, Minnie, Soyeon, Yuqi. But it is like impossible to find any moment where shuhua said nice thing about Miyeon.
@@gdmepsg1539 I can! In other comments, I had a whole list with links! Let me find it!
@@gdmepsg1539 Here it is! And these are only SOME examples, there are many more.
There are many moments with Shuhua praising Miyeon! Like that one VLIVE where Shuhua comments on how kind Miyeon is, and in that video from when they debuted, she talks about how pretty Miyeon is. There are lots of moments where Shuhua is kind to Miyeon, like when she sleeps next to her in a most recent video that was released, but Nevies find their Tom-and-Jerry dynamic funny, so they only ever talk about that. Actually, if you look properly, you will see many videos where Shuhua loves Miyeon a lot.
Please don't listen to videos like these.
Look, even this video of Shuhua saying "I love you" to Miyeon:
twitter.com/YSHFILE/status/1445359575218077701?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ
Or this birthday video for Miyeon.
twitter.com/hiikiddo/status/1487972461740060673?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ
Or this video, where Miyeon herself says that they show their love by fighting.
twitter.com/eden_idle/status/1210978167436926976?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ
Or the video where Shuhua praises Miyeon's talent by constantly calling her "Power vocal"!
twitter.com/idlelovelies/status/1253667105594986512?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ
"Miyeon has distanced herself from Shuhua,"
That is a blatant lie, some of these videos are from TOMBOY era, or recently!
There is also more of Shuhua calling Miyeon pretty and whatnot, blablabla.
Edit: Also, they literally kissed in a video a couple of days ago. 😭
@@aheedle wow.. What a list.. Goodjob... And not a single comeback reply?? 😄😄😝
ugh. Miyeon is the best vocalist in the group and has such a beautiful and unique voice, and her visual is top tier. Idk about Shuhua because I don’t know how is their relationship, but I can say how Miyeon is treated like shit in the international fandom. It’s like they just ignore her. If I had to defend her I'll do
For sure miyeon don't like to have a fan like you who only care about her and not all member. 😊
I promise you, Miyeon will not be upset. They always have this sibling dynamic where they squabble a lot, it’s quite sweet. Secretly, they love each other a lot, it’s evident in other videos. Don’t listen to haters!
There are many moments with Shuhua praising Miyeon! Like that one VLIVE where Shuhua comments on how kind Miyeon is, and in that video from when they debuted, she talks about how pretty Miyeon is. There are lots of moments where Shuhua is kind to Miyeon, like when she sleeps next to her in a most recent video that was released, but Nevies find their Tom-and-Jerry dynamic funny, so they only ever talk about that. Actually, if you look properly, you will see many videos where Shuhua loves Miyeon a lot.
Please don't listen to videos like these.
Look, even this video of Shuhua saying "I love you" to Miyeon:
twitter.com/YSHFILE/status/1445359575218077701?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ
Or this birthday video for Miyeon.
twitter.com/hiikiddo/status/1487972461740060673?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ
Or this video, where Miyeon herself says that they show their love by fighting.
twitter.com/eden_idle/status/1210978167436926976?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ
Or the video where Shuhua praises Miyeon's talent by constantly calling her "Power vocal"!
twitter.com/idlelovelies/status/1253667105594986512?s=20&t=AlIfuXPngRsZCfgQfi6eqQ
"Miyeon has distanced herself from Shuhua,"
That is a blatant lie, some of these videos are from TOMBOY era, or recently!
Take your hot take on them.
Uh no, if you are really a fan, you’ll just laugh this off.
Yuqi tooo
I won't say anything about the other stuff but like the question who's the slowest at learning choreo should be banned fr
Also all 5 of them look so pretty💅
Shuhua doesn’t have bad attitude to her fans. Fans r sometimes rude and she puts them in their place they say rude and inappropriate things n make them do things they don’t want to do. She steps up n tells them to back up it isn’t rude it’s standing up for ur self
Not the comments babying this GROWN WOMAN the only thing she has going for her is visuals because she doesn’t have stage present and can’t sing
don't kid yourself, she's not that pretty. Even Koreans know Miyeon is prettier lol.
@@mgkmasterrace Koreans actually prefer Shuhua, since she fits more into the KBS than Miyeon. Also they prefer her because she was the original visual.
@@kpopjenniie you're obviously feeding into your delusions lol. Koreans don't need to tell you this unless you're slow but her body type is considered there as fat, not to mention the ones on her face. She's given the "visual" status cause she don't have any talent to make up for the other titles that they have available.
You can have a “sarcastic/sassy” personality but I have noticed Shuhua can be so childish at times. I do admire her bravery for standing up for herself and members, but she can be rude at times, especially towards Miyeon
How? They promised her (shuhua) that she would be on the thumbnail, a promise is a promise. I’ve been promised something many times just for someone else to get it instead, it’s highly infuriating when that happens. Why bother make a promise when you can’t keep it?
Miyeon and Shuhua relationiship is like "Tom and Jerry" always fighting, but with love
I laughed so hard watching this. Stop overthinking you really don't know anything about the girls😂
Ngl Shuhua did not improve a lot since her debut, her vocal and dance are bad, she has no stage presence, she doesn’t improve in korean too while Yuqi who is also chinese, is literally fluent in korean and she has a bad attitude. Shuhua is not a good idol.
Shuhua overdoes it with miyeon sometimes but miyeon is too nice to say anything..
Hey please neverlands, dont fight 😭😭 idk who's side i am 😭😭 I love all the members from G Idle.. especially i love Miyeon and Shuhua..
She is so problematic
Her singing and performance skills are better than the average netizen. She is more talented than most netizens can do behind a screen
*Replies for fried netizens*
You'd better not comment like that. How can you come up with such a lame comparison? She used to be a trainee and has 4-5 years of experience as an idol but her skills still haven't improved, it's true, there's no denying it. I'm sorry, but the cover dance is good and the facial expressions are good too. As for the singing part, oh my god, at least my grandson sings with the right melody and rhythm. Maybe your best friend sings better than her lol. By the way, the contestants in My Teen Girls have Soyeon as their coach, aren't their skills better than shuahua? :))
@@puka2138 I did...
the more they get exposure the more people like this would play defense, you know nothing so keep it silent.
I’m a debut nevie and Shuhua has always been rude with miyeon but miyeon is too nice to say anything. It wasn’t until maybe Dumdi Dumdi era that miyeon started hanging out with yuqi more and distanced herself- I prefer that duo and MiMin.
This made me laugh LIKE CRAZY lmao- Shuhua and Miyeon are literally just messing around, this is just how they are. In my opinion, why you people don’t like Shuhua is because she is one of the few idols who didn’t change her personality for the camera. Do you really think all your idols/biases are all so ‘nice’? You know this is their JOB so most idols do have a fake personality. Moreover, we all know how mnet’s editing makes it seem worse than it really was. There are lots of vids of Shuhua praising miyeon. Most probably you never cared to search it up :)
@@angelixchae yes they are and btw the whole “savage maknae” thing and being rude, then calling it “real” and calling girls who are kind “fake on camera” is misogynistic as fuck. Most of shuhuas fans are like that, which is not surprising at all and I’ve seen y’all call miyeon fake. The truth is that miyeon has been a sweetheart since debut, all her schoolmates and anyone whose ever interacted with her has said that. shuhuas only personality trait is being obnoxious, loud & rude to her members. Lmao and?? There are lots of bad idol relationships where they’ve had good moments too 💀 doesn’t mean Shuhua doesn’t overdo it for the camera. Also yeah it’s funny you said that considering one of the reasons Shuhua overdoes it is for the literal camera like in i-talks. Nevies hyped her for it but when she got backlash they stopped doing TJ I-talks but sadly her personality still shows. Keep denying it but I’m betting you’re a new stan if you can’t admit this. Shuhua stans giving pick me energy lmfaoo like being rude doesn’t mean you’re “real” 😹 a real dick maybe! None of the members changed their personality for the camera, idle are one of the realest groups out there. Shuhua just has a bad one. You’re dragging down the other members and calling them fake just bc they don’t degrade their fellow members.
Edit: MNET EDITING?? I know you’re ass just started stanning them cause mnet does not edit i-talks. Cube staff does. Maybe you should actually watch an i-talk before giving your 2 cents
Hey, try to watch Tom and Jerry, that would definitely help with your confusion.
@@nogamenolife1901 I’m a pre debut nevie and have seen ALL their content- including all reality shows and I-talk. no one is confused and there’s a reason they stopped pushing TJ I-talks. TJ was just an excuse for Shuhua to treat miyeon terribly. Anyways I have always felt like this and so have most miyeon fans & nevies who stopped being in denial. It isn’t just based off this video but the last 4 years.
@@bunnylight9400 That's the point, it's just videos. Have you seen them behind the camera?
But they always act like this though?? That’s what their called the Tom and jerry of the group??
Don't they know that Shuhua and Miyeon are always bickering? 🤣🤣🤣
I mean sometimes she goes little overboard but I mean that's how they interact 😆😅
omg nonsense, they're like best friends
Yes they are. But Shuhua needs to learn there are times where you just need to appreciate your best friend instead of keep downplaying her. Miyeon is the MC of the show, so it's very dear to Miyeon's heart to win the game. To make this worse, Miyeon is always nice to Shuhua and there is not a single time Shuhua ever said nice thing about Miyeon.
@@Respect-sf4tm why r u acting like what you see on camera is exactly how they act off cam
@@baliwparasayo3524 Yes, I'm referring to her actions on-camera. I'm sure she is a nice friend bts. But, as a friend, she should know how special for Miyeon to win the game on her own show.
@@Respect-sf4tm This isn't right.
@@Respect-sf4tm 🤢 yikes cringey. Dont act like you know them
lmao if you are a true neverland, you'll know why miyeon and shuhua's duo is named after Tom and Jerry. They aren't named tom and jerry for nothing. They like to tease and quarrel with each other a lot but behind the cameras they treat each other like sisters. Stop making it weird. Shuhua has always been like that lmao
Yea right
We are not talking about the feelings or the treatment of the team members. I know that the members are close to each other and even joke around with each other sometimes. But on TV, please be a little more moderate :) But clearly in this video, throughout the video is the shuahua's bad attitude. If you are joking, you will only joke for a while, but then your expression will return to normal. But no, shuahua's expression clearly shows displeasure and disrespect to the senior in the group even the youngest member? You didn't notice in the original video at 1:08 that yuqi pushed her hand to get shuahua to sit down and said that let's start the game to stop her, and at 6:02 shuahua rudely pointed at miyeon and said with said with rude attitude, 6:04 yuqi stopped her from continuing to talk by feeding her, and 6:10 yuqi motioned for shuahua to keep quiet. Why does she have to prevent and hide shuahua from doing that if it's normal in the group? Because she knows shuahua overdoes :)) 🙃
I'm Agree with you
You say that you know they are joking, but then you call it Shuhua’s bad attitude? You make no sense.
Shuhua is just acting for the camera! Other members do this too, like Soyeon and Yuqi, but people only have issue with Shuhua.
It is just a joke, and clearly Miyeon is fine with it. If Miyeon is fine with it, then you have no right to be upset, because you’re not Miyeon. In other recent videos, you can see how much Miyeon adores Shuhua, and vice herds, which shows neither is upset.
@s I know, right??
@@aheedle So why do people focus on shuhua or "overthinking" about shuhua and not the other members when the fans have clarified that their relationship is so good? :)) (I really don't know when it comes to the attitude scandals, it's always shuahua :). Can u explain it to me?) Don't confuse bluntness with ungainly, overdoing it. I know I have no right to be angry on behalf of miyeon because I'm not her, I'm angry for myself :)) Because of her weak skills, even though I really enjoy watching gidle's performance, When it comes to her, in part, I feel frustrated. And I'm not a fan either, so just ignore it. But when I read the scandals about her, I couldn't ignore it anymore. The combination of her weak skills + scandalous attitude makes it impossible for me to love or forgive her. Joking around but keeping it under control, she's obviously the youngest member but joking with her unnies like friends of the same age? And how do you know miyeon is not thinking? You're not her either :)) And if you ask miyeon if she's upset why she doesn't say it or show it, it's miyeon very nice? She'll let it go. Or maybe she's annoyed too, but she's not as thoughtless as shuahua to show it on TV.
@@puka2138 It’s okay to be frustrated by Shuhua’s performing skills, but you shouldn’t let the fact that you’re upset about her performing dictate how you feel about her personality.
Just because she might be a weak performer (actually she has gotten so much better this era) doesn’t mean it’s okay to think she’s a bad person.
Also, you’re right, I don’t know what Miyeon is truly thinking, but that’s not our place to know. All we know is that Miyeon is okay with it, because that’s what she’s said. Why should we ignore what Miyeon has TOLD us, and speculate how she feels? That’s not fair on Miyeon, we’re just ignoring her then. We should listen to Miyeon if she says it’s okay, because it’s what she said, even if it might not be true, we don’t have a right to ignore her because “Miyeon might be pretending”, because that is speculation. You shouldn’t speculate on this when the idol in question has given you their answer. Miyeon has said before that Shuhua is the most interesting person she has ever met. In I-TALKs, it’s so obvious how much they adore each other. Actually, think about it like in K-DRAMA when the lead pretends to dislike their love interest, but secretly cares about them a lot.
You ask why Shuhua’s attitude gets the most criticism, it’s because people pay attention to her because they think she lacks performance ability, so they want to see what she brings to the group. What she brings is her variety ability, because she’s very, very funny. Her relationship with Miyeon is a part of this, and fans find it funny because it is funny. The way MiShu act is exactly how I act with my friends, so it makes me laugh to see.
Look at it like this, I will say some “mean” things to my friends, and if other people heard this, they would say- “How could you be so mean?!” But my friends would laugh and think it was funny, because they know I am joking. So my friends would say to the angry people “Oh, no, it’s okay, I don’t mind!”. So now the angry people know that we are just joking, they have no right to say “I bet you’re secretly upset!”, because my friends have told them how they feel, they don’t have the right to speculate on their feelings. It is the same with Miyeon.
Miyeon has told us how she feels, and we shouldn’t speculate beyond that because it is private.
Also, Miyeon said she doesn’t like it when FANS call her “Miha” (a nickname Shuhua made that means “Miyeon Pabo”) but that’s only FANS. Of course, she is fine, and found it funny when Shuhua said it, because they are friends! For example, my friends call me ugly, or they say I’m a bitch, and it’s okay, it’s funny, because we’re friends, but if a random person on the internet said this to me, or somebody who is not my friend said this to me, of course, I would be upset! Because they don’t know me, they are not my friend.
It is the same with MiShu, I tell you. They have been like this since debut, if Miyeon really didn’t like it, Miyeon would have told Shuhua off camera, and Shuhua would have stopped it, no?
I feel sorry for Miyeon because people like you make her out to be this weak person, who is a push-over and pathetic. Why do you make her out to seem so weak and small? Isn’t that an insult to Miyeon’s character?
Of course, Miyeon would have said something to Shuhua if she did not like it, and Shuhua would have stopped.
But it has been four years (five since they met each other), and they still act like this with each other, because it’s what they are comfortable with.
There are many videos of Shuhua loving Miyeon, they even kissed in a recent promotion, hahaha, why would they do this if they weren’t friends? Miyeon even said that she knows how Shuhua truly feels on the inside.
There are many idols like Shuhua, for example, Sooyoung from SNSD was the savage one, just like Shuhua! Back in the 2nd Gen of kpop, people weren’t as sensitive as you and others, so they didn’t constantly make scandals out of Sooyoung’s savageness, because they know she truly loves her members, just like Shuhua. But there are many male idols in this day and age, that do the same as Shuhua, and I wonder why nobody talks about them? Why does nobody discuss them?
Maybe it is not the same for you, but many people who criticise Shuhua are misogynistic, and just want to hate on women, and it is easiest to make fake rumours about Shuhua’s attitude, which may also be why she has attitude scandals a lot. That is a reason too. It has happened to many female idols, like Yeri, and Nayeon, and now Shuhua too.
There are so, so many moments of Shuhua loving Miyeon, like I showed you some, but people choose to ignore them so they can hate on Shuhua. Isn’t that ridiculous?
I don’t think this is true, but if Shuhua is bullying Miyeon, then I could also say Miyeon is harassing Shuhua by constantly trying to hug and kiss her, even when Shuhua pushes her away. Obviously, I don’t think this, but it’s just an example of her exaggerated and ridiculous it is.
ok i get where she always does this with her members cause that is what she is known for, but in there recent comeback (ifeel) she was being informal and rude with the host jj? for an idol like her you don't go around being informal to your seniors. If it's with the group and they are ok with it then yes but for her to do this with host on shows its not ok and y'all shouldn't try and say "shes the savage baby of the group" no shes a grown ass women who knows what is respectful and whats not.
Don't tell me it's funny and hilarious or just a joke when it's clearly wrong. Not just once or twice, but many times. And not only with the group members, but even with the fans, there is such a rude attitude. It's also because fans say it's funny or "savage" lol. That's why she continued like that lol. Well, it's in the fandom so I don't even care so I just ignore it. But please don't have an attitude scandal every time you come back :) Honestly, aside from Soojin's scandal, doesn't every comeback have shuahua scandals? :)) If it is not a weak skill, it is also a lack of standard working attitude. I support gidle and listen to every song. At first, I thought she was pretty and felt sorry that she sang so little. But every comeback has scandals and the most noticeable thing is that her skills still haven't improved so I comprehend why she sings so little :) Loving an idol is not an excuse or a cover-up of the idol's mistake but to advise or do something for the idol to practice harder and improve.🙂
Sorry for my poor English ☺:))
just watch their workdol video at the big company internship. Their dynamics is funny
Ridiculous!They love each other!
Keep in mind everyone, we don't know what's happening behind the camera. All I know is that they're doing a concept where they're called Tom and Jerry, basically Miyeon is Tom, then Shuhua is Jerry.
My bias is miyeon but the last part kind of sounded shady to shuhua
Clearly it was especially when everybody knew she improved a lot
Such an obvious anti
The source of those hate reactions were probably a new Neverver or probably not a fan at all.
Cause it's clear they know nothing about the girls
It's right. This video is indeed correct. Nice one 👏👏👏👍
First- shushu don't have a mean attitude she just feel uncomfortable with question- soyeon- is a normal leader so not too much on soyeon. Minnle is herself- yuqi is just trying too stop shushu for trying too let the others can speak miyeon is juat nice and kind and a very high popularity- ex member soojin- ia Nice and the dancer of the team abd nice too shushu
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Yes you a fan of ME
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you don’t know their relationship very well do u ? shuhua is always teasing the other members lmaoo
People are mad annoying. Shuhua ain’t a bully, she’s straight forward. She got promised to be in the thumbnail, the least they could do is put her on it since she’s also the visual. Y’all talking about her “disrespecting” Miyeon when that’s how they act with each other. Funny how non of you know how close they actually are.
If she was čromised to put in tumbnail, then it's unfair not to do ot. They always had this relationship so it's dumb. Leave them alone
Tell me you don’t know (G)I-DLE without telling me you don’t know (G)I-DLE
ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
i never like her but i don't hate her either miyeon yuqi minnie is likeable
It's funny that they call rude an idol when they are just being honest and dare to say what the others don't. Shuhua actitude is amazing because she is real and don't fake just to fit in the "idol expectations". Most fandoms tell their favs to be expresive, but when they are they are criticised. .... The hypocrisy
Tbh Only the super bias fan of miyeon (a lot), k-netz or not a fan of Idle will find this very disrespectful or rude. Shuhua Loves ALL HER MEMBERS. ALL MEMBERS LOVES SHUHUA. This is just the thing they do. Miyeon is old enough to stop shuhua if she's not ok with it. Gosh, Miyeon Looks a Goddess but not a baby. You don't have to protect her that badly and attack her baby shuhua. She won't like that.
Nah I’m ot6 nevies since pre debut and shuhuas behavior is out of hand. Shuhua is old enough to not disrespect her members. She acts like a fucking child and you Shuhua stans baby her- knetz were right about that. And miyeons reaction is a lot of the time is enough to say that.Shuhua fans are as toxic as Shuhua is to miyeon.
@@bunnylight9400 i have never seen like u ur the most danger and spreading hate towards shuhua in almost comments section ur the one degrading shuhua
Poor miyeon, shuhua is always like that to miyeon, sometimes miyeon just smile, because she love shuhua a lot.. Childish behavior 😒
watch this video miyeon and shuhua have a playful relationship th-cam.com/video/98Z1jCrjfiQ/w-d-xo.html and im pretty sure they wouldn’t be as close as they seem if shuhua “attitude” is true and mean
Did you see what shuhua said yesterday about Miyeon and called her weak when she asked about the members' performance??
In fact, I am not surprised by Shuhua , because she clearly seems to be a rude person , I just wonder how fans are still defending her and applauding her while seeing her despise another member of the group.
@@mkboulahamed741 if shuhua was a rude person she wouldn’t have called out the online trolls that made fun of one of the members. shuhua can be blunt and is playful. we are only fans, so u shouldn’t go around saying she rude bc we don’t actually know her lmao
YALL CHILL THEY WERE JOKING, Miyeon and shuhua are really good friends and if you've ever had a rlly good friend, you would know that friends would joke around and say "mean" stuff to each other as jokes, Shuhua and miyeon are doing just that and theyre both known as "tom and jerry" for theyre rivalry, so yall should just sit and calm the hell down because they're being a normal person
Look at nore clips of Miyeon and Shuhua, youll see that theyre really good friends
shuhua has always treated miyeon really bad but fans don't want to see that.. it's good to talk about it,
.. Nice person like miyeon shouldn't be bullied.
Bro shut up Miyeon and Shuhua, they're both called Tom and Jerry , They call themselves that. 💀 and they role play. Because after that, they are affectionate and love each other very much.
if you ain't a real nevies then go away.
Yeah she's so bad to Miyeon that during the behind scenes of their online concert Miyeon decided to name her "Yeh hope" because she's literally always supporting her and the members all the time. Even more in moments of tension and seriousness when they feel nervous. They're just playing around 🤷🏻♀️
@@tiaralovejimin it’s bc miyeon is too nice 💀 Shuhua takes advantage of that
Yes Miyeon is nice. You're not. Try to learn from Miyeon!
The best thing about I-DLE is their friendship and Shuhua & Miyeon's friendship included. It's not your place to judge someone else's relationship.
@@bunnylight9400 Miyeon is the one taking advantage, did you see Miyeon literally going all in for that pepero game? 🤣🤣 Keep being delulu and obsessed with hating Shuhua for having what you won't ever have.
Just leave them alone, u guys don't know what relationship they had, if you follow their content from the start Shuhua and Miyeon had Love-hate relationship, if you know nothing stop talking like you know everything about them, if you don't like them that way then just leave and find other idol that suit ur taste, is that easy rite rather bashing shuhua with no reason.
Some of y’all clearly haven’t seen the Vlive of Shuhua literally summoning Miyeon and telling her about a rude comment, and how Miyeon basically said “how could you say that to this face?” like a sweet, protective older sister defending her baby lmao
Ofc things can change over time, but don’t act like Shuhua hasn’t always be a bold and “savage” type of personality, or like you haven’t seen them bond just fine many times before.
Shuhua openly discredit Miyeon in shows.
Miyeon does not.
Miyeon openly praises Shuhua on vlive, i-talk, shows, interviews.
Shuhua does not (not a single time)
Shuhua openly praises and shows affection towards all members EXCEPT Miyeon.
These are the reason why some people is not ok with how shuhua treats Miyeon. The fact that Miyeon is still and always be kind to Shuhua says more about how much of a sweetheart Miyeon is.
If you don't know anything about the group, please go do your research first.
@@heartforall5853 Where should I start? Can you recommend me a few videos where Shuhua saying nice thing about Miyeon.
I'm ready to change my mind if you can show me a video where Shuhua praises Miyeon.
@@malcolmx7297 here's the thing. She's doing it for comedic purposes. You do realize that she's doing it in front of the camera. Btw, they have a duo called TJ, which means Tom and Jerry. If you still don't know the concept of T and J, then you really don't have the right to criticize her.
@@malcolmx7297 @Malcolmx you have the right to have your opinion. I just think it's not your place to tell Shuhua off. Miyeon will say so if she thinks so.
@@malcolmx7297 th-cam.com/video/UZDSpQBlSU8/w-d-xo.html look at miyeon's part. You can see that she doesn't have a problem with it. Shuha also told Yuqi off for saying Miyeon was not kind in real life.
In my opinion, as long as Miyeon doesn't mind it, we should also not make a problem out of it. You will only trouble Miyeon thinking like that.
I understand that you want to stand up for her, but you're not really helping when you make problems where there are none.
Other people aren’t allowed to have an opinion on their relationship they aren’t apart of it
I don't get what people actually wants?
You don’t know that these Gidle girls are fighting and shouting each other like 24/7 🤡
Its as if they wanna eliminate all of the girls in this group. From Soojin to Shuhua and Soyeon...YALL ARE FUCKING EXHAUSTING
shuhua adttude is like that
This video is just so LOL... someone's jealous g-idle is getting too popular, maybe too popular compared to his favorite group.
i swear yall dont know everything about (g)i-dle and say ridicolus things
You’d think a group never had a “bratty maknae” before. Tzuyu used to rip her members all the time about people loved it.
Tzuyu's savageness is funny it doesn't sounds rude, that's why a lot of people loved it .
Its not about the bratty maknae concept btw. I have no problem if she act like this to all members but shuhua only look down continuously on miyeon. She says a lot of nice things to all members except miyeon.
It's been 4 years and there is literally not one time shuhua has said good things about miyeon. She had no problem calling miyeon an idiot (on Secret Folder and even created an idiot nickname for miyeon) or even described miyeon as the ugliest person on earth (in To Neverland episode) while miyeon has said nothing but nice thing about her.
@@malcolmx7297 Well of course she would, Miyeon is the oldest! That's a dynamic as old as time, little sisters and older sisters. If she teased everyone she would really come off as mean. That's why they are T&J. To say Shuhua has never complimented Miyeon, or that she's never nice to her is just flat out untrue.
When they had their Marie Claire shoot together, Shuhua was asked why the magazine chose them and Shuhua suggested it was because her and Miyeon were the prettiest (she has also called Miyeon cute/very cute on multiple ocassions). They were asked about their 'Tom & Jerry' nickname and Miyeon explained how Shuhua also cares for her: "Even though she's just teasing and playing around, sometimes she comforts and takes care of me."
Shuhua also clearly respect Miyeon a lot as she has said that Miyeon is the one she will talk to when she is sad or worried. That's another classic aspect of a youngest/oldest relationship. You have the biggest level of teasing, but also when it comes to the crunch, as a younger sibling you know your oldest can help you in a pinch.
@@dmore Minnie and Miyeon are literally the same age. They are both known as the eldest of the group and i'm sure you know how entirely different shuhua treats miyeon and minnie. Where is that oldest youngest TJ dynamic with minnie?
Thank you for that Marie Claire example. Good to know. But I think you quoted it from the magazine article not from the uploaded interview video right. The thing about magazine article is that, they will edit your words to make it nice and more presentable. I've been interviewed by a local magazine before and you will be amazed how much they twisted my words to make it more readable. Still, I believe shuhua had said that and that's cool. It's just that, it's absurd to me that there is not even one video where shuhua said this stuff about miyeon when there are plenty videos of her praising, hyping other members.
Since you mentioned the Marie Claire shoot, here is another thing that disappoints me when miyeon had to work with shuhua. Shuhua always gives a hard time to cooperate with miyeon whether its photo shoot or video filming. Miyeon did a vlive right after the Marie Claire shoot was released and Miyeon said that there were not a lot of couple shoot of her and shuhua because it didnt look good (if you see the couple shoot, you will know why, shuhua's posed like she didnt like to shoot with miyeon). Another time was during Dumdi Dumdi filming. Miyeon said on italk 68 that shuhua supposed to have a scene with her where shuhua should served a drink to miyeon but shuhua hates that scene. As far as I know, that scene got cut from the official MV. Same thing again with the Dazed Korea shoots released few days ago. It seems like shuhua didnt even want to be in the same frame with miyeon in that photoshoot. I mean do you really need to bring the TJ agenda in a real work stuff?
There's a line for a friendly teasing and when you are overdoing it, it will come out as disrespectful.
@@malcolmx7297 Miyeon was born January, Minnie October, so there is almost a year between them. Miyeon is the eldest which is a significant factor in Korean culture (although to be fair not as big within this specific relationship as I think idol groups often act more similarly to equally leveled ‘friends’ as they’d put it).
The simple answer to why she’s not the same with Minnie is that they are different people. Miyeon and Shuhua are both over the top, kinda chaotic types, which adds to the T&J dynamic. Minnie has her moments of course but generally (and certainly on her own) is way more chill.
The more complex answer is that from a promotional stand point it doesn’t make sense to have two relationships that are too similar. We have to remember we see caricatures of their personalities, not their dead to rights irl ones. They play up the dynamics they have as it adds to the content and entertainment for us as fans. Take Soyeon and Yuqi for example, they often tease one another as well but it’s well known that Yuqi has a deep respect for Soyeon as an artist. Because Shuhua is the “bratty maknae” she teases with more of an biting edge than say Yuqi does with Soyeon. Though Yuqi can get kinda crazy too, she does it more just by being really loud lol
As for the photos together not working, I honestly think your seeing more layers to it than there are. It is likely their combo photos just didn’t turn out well because a) let’s face it Miyeon is another level of pretty when it comes to modeling and b) Shuhua isn’t as skilled in that kind of thing so they probably just didn’t look great. Even in the recent comeback material, Soyeon was seen/heard coaching Shuhua through her photos. You can see even in their solo photos that Shuhua isn’t quite at the same level yet in terms of getting that “look” bang on (no hate to her though, her photos still look good and she tries really hard for which she should be credited, she just happens to be in a group of absolute baddies).
If anything, there might perhaps be a touch of jealously. Shuhua maybe feels pressured being the youngest, so being in duo work with Miyeon might be tough as Shuhua can be very self critical and puts herself down sometimes (was heartbreaking seeing her in tears after the Lion stage on Queendom thinking she’d done bad when she’d absolutely slayed). Being with your older member, who is model level pretty and a main vocalist when you’ve struggled with your vocals, that might add a touch to her teasing. I don’t think there is much to that though, I’d imagine if anything it’s be more insecurity. We can never truely know.
I think it’s more likely just a really good dynamic that’s built up and it gets people invested (as this conversation demonstrates), talking, giving nicknames etc, and so it’s a relationship that, while rooted in reality, is played up a touch for dramatic effect (just like Soyeon and Yuqi).
The main thing is we should support all our girls and the group as a whole, to push on to even greater things now they’ve come back so successfully.
her annoying laughter says it all XDDDD
She never been funny or savage to me she just disrespectful especially to words miyeon who’s the eldest one in the group her joke and act’s just to much and miyeon so nice to stop or argue about it she needs to stop hope netizens make her release how bad her actions is
Shut up
You such a haters...im going to report this channel...if u don't know them well don't make any stupid content..u will get charge if cube ent take action on you..
I'm with you
I'm with you too
Yeah i'm with you too
Haters gonna hate. Gotta love The Shuhua ❤
Doesn't makes sense..
Y'all never had friends??
SHUHUA es mi bias no solo por su talento y porque es hermosa sino por su personalidad única y divertida, ella es así, le gusta llevarse, se ríe de sus propios chistes, es una bebé, sólo hay que conocerle lo suficiente antes de hablar.
Bruh she is just playful
FRIENDLESS PEOPLE DAMN YALL NEED TO GO OUT TOUCH GRASS AND SOCIALIZE, MAKE FRIENDS!
Seriously, don’t make an unecessary issue. People who are not fans of gidle, trust me, you’ll laugh this off when you get to know them. Don’t take buy this negative energy. 🥴🥴🥴
#shuhuaweloveyou
They're tom and jerry for a reason tho.. Hahahahaha.. At least she's not fake idol.. I meant she's the realest idol.. She never treat a fan that bad like others said.. Cuz mostly the viewers of her live video is her haters tbh.. Lol.. They keep talking shit about her and asked her disrespectful things.
i love shuhua shes a savage
Me when I know nothing but I open my mouth :)
nah shuhua is literally acting like a normal person 💀💀 shes so relatable LMAO
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The only one criticizing Shuhua seems to be the poor minded person who made this video. Stop trying to spread false information.
Lol 😂
People are mad that shuhuas becoming more confident, if you were really a fan you would know that even when soojin was in the group still she acted like this towards Miyeon and it’s clearly not because she’s rude they’re just joking
What does soojin absence have to do with Shuhua rudeness towards Miyeon ?? Yes, Shuhua has always treated miyeon this way and has not improved with the years, even Cube has stopped making TJ content, and still that Shuhua continues not to show any good feelings towards miyeon
All I’m saying is that it’s clear that they aren’t actually hurt by eachother if you really think Miyeon is hurt by shuhuas actions, go cry about it🤷🏾♀️
How can you guys not recognise they are joking. They are all literally sisters. These girls have been training together for years and consider each other as siblings. They have gone through a lot together so I don’t think anyone can speak on their relationship. Shuhuas personality is being loud and much more than that. They both care for each other so much. Does anyone remember when Shuhua went live with Miyeon and someone called Shuhua ugly. Miyeon then said how can you call someone this pretty ugly. They obviously care for each other so much! Please don’t question a groups dynamic and friendship when all you see is what is posted online which is a very minimal part of their actual lives.
umm
She acts like a child :/
She's acting like an evil bully
@@ezh7057 no you don't know her personally
She's literally their spoiled baby 😂😂 but also she's the most mature and wise member, what's the issue with being carefree?
Can you guys think and watch their videos carefully first before you judge them? shuhua is a literal angel, i promise.
it's true! She's so sweet and caring with everyone, to the point that she's always cheering for them when they're nervous or tense 🥺 she always shares wise words with the fandom, all kinds of counseling and own experiences. I actually learned from her a lot because of that. She helped me to grow as a person even when she's younger than I. That's how mature she is. So don't just assume the worse out of her for acting like a child from time to time. They all do, that's how I-dle is, it's their charm. And there's nothing bad about it. Their relationship is healthy even when they tease each other often 😊
Let’s not take this serious.Don’t say anything if you don’t know them well. They’ve always been like this ever since debut. That’s why we call them TJ.
Thats just being Shuhua xD
Imao I don't see rude action from Shuhua towards Miyeon I can only see a friendship ✨tHingZz✨
ummm... they literally call themselves TJ/tom and jerry unit lmao it's always these non-fans/casual viewers 😒
Non neverland act like they know g-idle 😂😂 so cringey af
Suhuaaaaa is the most realistic Idol.....Miyeon and Suhuaaaaa always been like this ...tom n Jerry in real .... what's the big deal .
Did you know that they're a duo called TJ and they acknowledged it? Shuhua basically does it for comedic purposes only and when in front of a camera. You would be surprised on how close they are in real life.
People really went judge someone just by one bad looking attitude, even they has done something good for a whole life
Just when I'm about to stan them because of Shuhua?
They’re a clear anti shuhua isn’t like that at all and it’s such a out of context thing
@@shuhuaaa4074 I see. Thank you for the clarification. I really adored her!
Stan shuhua stan gidle stan talent😛😛
Erm Shuhua likes to pick a fight with Miyeon bcoz Miyeon likes to disturb her. Hahaha.
Lmao this is so hilarious😂 are you out of content?
STOP MAKING ISSUE ABOUT THEM SERIOUSLY,,, THIS JUST SHOW YOU DONT KNOW THEM THAT MUCH WHATSOEVER AND OUT OF THE GROUP SHUHUA IMPROVED THE MOST ESPECYIN HER DANCING SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, STOP MAKING THINGS LIKE THIS BIG