I noticed you used titebond original. That's not waterproof. If you subject it to water like in a planter, it will eventually degrade. Titebond III is for projects that come in contact with water but is still not 100% waterproof. Epoxy is 100% waterproof and might saturate the saw dust easier. And you wouldn't have to use that sleeve. And you could go to a local woodworking factory and probably get tons of sawdust for free. I think you have something with this idea.
Thanks for the advice but don't you think epoxy is a too expensive material for this kind of job? If we could make epoxy easily ourselves that'd be great but I cannot see any reason to use that for recycling sawdust.
I only discovered your channel yesterday but I'm already a huge fan! You have really creative ideas, great editing, great timing and humor :) Its mind blowing that you only have 6000 subs with videos like this. Good luck on your TH-cam journey, I'll definitely be watching
I think that the first marbled design was actually my favorite! All of them were still super cool, and a great use for old sawdust! Also, the editing on this video is super good. The integration of 3d models for visualization was really well done.
I think it would have been mine too if I could control exactly where the marbled lines ended up and seen how it looks inside the mold but I have not completely given up on that version yet.
EDIIT: These are sold out now but the digital models for the molds are still available if you wanted to print your own. Thanks for the support, I hope to add more stuff like this in the future that people could get if they wanted their own. New project finally done! Hope you all enjoy and take some inspiration and try it yourself. Also make sure to check out the Etsy store and pick up one of the five sets of these planters if you want. Thanks for all the support and being patient as I set up everything to be sold. I don't like releasing anything that I feel is unfinished or not the best thing that I can produce so that often causes long lead times but I want to make sure its all quality.
I'm willing to bet that this channel explodes within this year, it is gonna be a wild ride and I will be here to watch it all happen for sure. Great videos man and I look forward to seeing even more!
I think one more aspect to take into consideration is what to use instead of Titebond? From what I know, it's not biodegradable, and mixing it in the sawdust just makes the whole thing not recyclable anymore. Maybe some bio-oil resin would be more suited for this type of project?
You're absolutely amazing!! the editing is frickin awesome, and your humor is one of the best parts about your videos, I loved the way these turned out and its so creative, top notch stuff man and I'll always be waiting for your new videos!
5:00 your idea on the marble effect, reminds me of coloured sand ornaments in uk beach shops at the coast. Probably 30 years ago, but maybe they still exist.
It might be, these were also the worst ones I made. For the ones that I made to sell I used a lot more pressure when packing and a lot of the pitting went away but adding wax might be what its missing to really give it a MDF feel.
We were just now working with sawdust, glue and food coloring because we needed detail but abhor epoxy resin. Don't get me wrong, we have a fiberglass boat and I think it might make a good waterproof coating for the inside of sawdust containers. Best edited video ever and my wood scrap pile is taking on a life of it's own.
@@Ideal_Idea It seems good. Our first thought was wood stain but we were not sure how well that would work with white glue. We sanded a little early as I was over eager but it sanded off easy by hand and easer with the drum sander. We sifted the sawdust so it was pretty fine and made a paste. We are testing an idea for wooden coasters with a design routed in with the cnc and we wanted it to look more rustic than something like epoxy. But the color is good and it seems the food color penetrated the wood dust for a nice consistent but rustic finish. A few more tweaks but looks like we are moving in the right direction.
I want to think the wax is going to add some moisture resistance and additional adhesion. I am inspired to create something as my line of products is being based on upcycled wood, pallets and ruff cut saw mill discards.
I believe you're correct on the wax, if I do more tests I will be adding that to compare but if you end up doing it before me let me know how your projects workout!
Over a year ago I thought of the same idea but haven't had a chance to make it because of my printer having several issues. I plan to do it with more fine sand dust and more glue so it has a smoother look I also wanted to dye or stain it interesting colors but it's cool to see someone make something I thought randomly a while back
As for a sealer, I've been experimenting with clear spray Flex Seal on a planter that I made. It's held up outside for about six months now, with sign of wear or yellowing, as of yet. It could be an alternative to using a plastic sleeve. Definitely quicker.
Hi am in Nigeria. I really enjoyed watching your video, Am looking to make diy sawdust boards, and I loved how you explained your process and made everything easy to understand 👍⭐
Just a thought I had, what if you blended the sawdust to make it finer. I feel like it would be much more dense when packed. Not sure if that would make it stronger or not but just an observation I thought about. Lmk if you agree with that or not.
It would help, that is what i ended up doing it but it was really quick in this video. For the duplicates I made I blended it longer and it was definitely easier to get lass gaps
A comment to support the channel Pots came out so nice and have this deserty look that's perfect for succulents or cacti Also I kinda liked the first try with different coloration, it gives something like granite
I suspect mixing the glue fire tly on sawdust leaves some areas concentrated. Other areas dry. If you evenly mix / dissolve the glue in water, then gradually add to sawdust & mix thoroughly you will get better gluing,easier drying and more even mix
Watching the 2nd video and i gotta tell you man, this channel is gonna blow up real soon. Amazing content again and again, real fun of your work man. Okay to the next video now🚶♂
The look and texture kind of reminds me of a granite crossed with sandstone... "woodstone products" you could actually do a proper pressure mold with these, but I would probably pick a binder other than TB original either way, it breaks down in water, just in case.
What a great idea. I think I'll buy a compressor machine and make big cylinders with saw dust and use them in woodturning. Thanks bro! And you know what? They look really ANCIENT!
What about throwing it in a blender to make it fine then use epoxy since its a planter and would handle water well. its like your creating mud but using your woodworking byproduct.
I just discovered your chanel today and I love it! The videos are very well produced and I think there is so much potential for you to become a successful youtuber.❤❤❤
Just found your channel today, and you are really inspiring and motivating, I really look up to you and the insane quality of your videos and projects!
Imo mere hand pressing it into the mold left the end result to pourous. I'd be curious to see if it could be compacted better if put into a vacuum chamber since it would be impossible to do compaction through pressing it with any decent force. I'm thinking vacuum chamber might leave a smoother texture to the end result which I think would look much better. Especially going for that marble look.
If you could make the molds out of acrylic (cast them in acrylic resin? 🤷♂) you could see the layers as you add them and it would make it work kind of like sand art.
Not a bad idea, might be able to use clear PLA to print it as well and give some indication of the pattern youre making, any help to see the inside would be good instead of doing it blind haha
theres one thing about it thats good, u should be able to drop them and they dont shatter!!! thanks for the demo, i think its good to go, if someone could get it to look less like musli it probably would be a good thing. but probably it looks to go for me to try.
You might as well make them out of particle board that you can then wet and rub for the same look. You can even give them the marble effect by dragging a feather dipped in your contrasting color and randomly pulled across the surface.
Do you know anything about thick(somewhat stiff) PVC laminate flooring? Or any flooring really, but the PVC kind i have the most of... I got a rolling cosmetics cart out of our local recycling bins, including door locks (without keys unfortunately, but thankfully unlocked already) and according to what I've seen on eBay, it would normally come with 2-3 inch tall drawer bins, but unfortunately mine being a recycle bin find, didn't come with them. All that said, I've been looking for a way to easily make shelving to use instead of the standard drawer bins that would normally have been used, and going through all the different ideas I came across some leftover pieces of both wood laminate and PVC laminate flooring both of which have a rubber underlayment on the bottom, which I can then flip the shelving over if I need a shelving board that has a more non-slip grip on, and I've been wondering, for both the wood laminate flooring and the PVC laminate flooring, what kind of glue that I have her on the house, would work, to permanently join the two tongue and groove pieces together into one easily removable board that won't separate on the way out of or into the cart... Because I am using the lengthways tongue and groove portions and it not the end tongue and groove portions, it's obviously not a structural tongue and groove joint, just a joint that holds my rear and front boards together, and should be plenty strong enough for the small amount of weights that I will be using the rolling cart for, specifically for the most part, for lightweight crafting and computer maintenance stuff, such as screwdrivers, exacto knives, Velcro, cheap plastic paper cutters (not guillotine style but press and cut style) as well as other things such as shrink wrap tubing perhaps, and Milwaukee paint pens or whatever else I might want to add... I might even add some kind of an LED lighting system, so it isn't quite so dark in the unit, maybe... But again, I'm just looking at ways to glue vinyl/pvc flooring tongue and groove flooring together, as well as doing the same thing with the limited wood laminate flooring scraps I have... I have a tiny scrap piece cut in half, with a bit of titebond 2 wood glue on, to test whether it will work on the tongue and groove parts of vinyl flooring, but again, it's WOOD glue, not vinyl glue, if there is such a thing, so I'm not holding out much hope
Really nice idea. I usually just use it around my garden boundary to suppress the weeds from the farmer's field. But I have so much of it I really don't know what to do with it. I think I'll try something like this.
Great idea. I'm looking at ways to copy my shoe soles, and this might be a direction I could look. Also, did you speed up your vocal track? It's like I hear some artifacting in the video
I tried something similar to this once. What i will say is if you want a smoother look or more homogeneous use a strainer and the larger pieces you can break up in my wife’s blender. 🤫
Hi Robert, this is Robert. I got your plans yesterday and it has a small problem. I did the inside sleeve twice, and both times the bottom fell off. Is there any way you can add 4 or 5 mm to the bottom, that might fix the problem. Then send me an update because I can't use cad programs, and this looks like it is something that is very nice. I would have done this on the Esty email, but it wouldn't let me. Waiting for a reply. Thank You. Bob
Hey bob, this is the first time I have heard of this problem so let me see if I understand it. Is it the file "Mold 02 - Inside Sleeve" you are having problems with? And it is just the bottom thickness you're having problems with or the walls as well? They are all the same thickness currently. If you are meaning that the sleeve is loose in the final, that will depend on when you insert the interior sleeve curing the drying process as the sawdust seems to move slightly upon drying out. I will message you on Etsy as well.
@@Ideal_Idea Thanks for replying so quickly. Yes it is the Mold 02 - inside sleeve. It looks like the bottom pulled away from inside the wall. Maybe if it had a small bevel along the that edge that could fix the problem. This is in the 3d printing of it. Other then that little problem it looks good.
@@roberthephner6985 I have added an additional file with those changes. If you redownload the file from Etsy that should include the altered file now. Hopefully that should work for you now.
I noticed you used titebond original. That's not waterproof. If you subject it to water like in a planter, it will eventually degrade. Titebond III is for projects that come in contact with water but is still not 100% waterproof. Epoxy is 100% waterproof and might saturate the saw dust easier. And you wouldn't have to use that sleeve. And you could go to a local woodworking factory and probably get tons of sawdust for free. I think you have something with this idea.
Thanks for the advice but don't you think epoxy is a too expensive material for this kind of job? If we could make epoxy easily ourselves that'd be great but I cannot see any reason to use that for recycling sawdust.
"eventually" degrade
Everything "eventually" degrades.
hello! do you think mod podge is good for this kind of project?
I only discovered your channel yesterday but I'm already a huge fan! You have really creative ideas, great editing, great timing and humor :) Its mind blowing that you only have 6000 subs with videos like this. Good luck on your TH-cam journey, I'll definitely be watching
This was posted 10 months ago now he has 50k!
I think that the first marbled design was actually my favorite! All of them were still super cool, and a great use for old sawdust!
Also, the editing on this video is super good. The integration of 3d models for visualization was really well done.
I think it would have been mine too if I could control exactly where the marbled lines ended up and seen how it looks inside the mold but I have not completely given up on that version yet.
EDIIT: These are sold out now but the digital models for the molds are still available if you wanted to print your own. Thanks for the support, I hope to add more stuff like this in the future that people could get if they wanted their own.
New project finally done! Hope you all enjoy and take some inspiration and try it yourself. Also make sure to check out the Etsy store and pick up one of the five sets of these planters if you want. Thanks for all the support and being patient as I set up everything to be sold. I don't like releasing anything that I feel is unfinished or not the best thing that I can produce so that often causes long lead times but I want to make sure its all quality.
Ideal Idea , which software do you use for your 3D model designs?
@@jaguerra I use Sketchup, its a much "looser" design software but its free and helps with more conceptual ideas.
@@Ideal_Idea thanks
I'm willing to bet that this channel explodes within this year, it is gonna be a wild ride and I will be here to watch it all happen for sure. Great videos man and I look forward to seeing even more!
Yep I think by this time next year he will be in a custom workshop and doing this full time. Well that's my wish anyway.
same
Absolutely! Everything about this content is golden!
I think another video of his went kinda viral yesterday and today. looks like it's happening :D
This is so cool! Using different colored sawdust to get a marbling effect is genius!
You really stand out to other engineering channels with your artistic senses, love it
Your editing is worth a million subs alone
Such a clean transition 7:37
Your videos cheer me up. Dude you are awesome
Love slow approaching hammer
I think one more aspect to take into consideration is what to use instead of Titebond? From what I know, it's not biodegradable, and mixing it in the sawdust just makes the whole thing not recyclable anymore. Maybe some bio-oil resin would be more suited for this type of project?
Really cool to see the process behind your ideas and making them reality. Love to see it!
Great recycling idea. The uses are nearly limitless.
You're absolutely amazing!! the editing is frickin awesome, and your humor is one of the best parts about your videos, I loved the way these turned out and its so creative, top notch stuff man and I'll always be waiting for your new videos!
Holy crap this guys comedy and editing are on point. Found this channel 8 months after the last upload, hope you keep it going man!!! Its awesome!
5:00 your idea on the marble effect, reminds me of coloured sand ornaments in uk beach shops at the coast. Probably 30 years ago, but maybe they still exist.
I think you leaving out the wax is what gives them the pitted texture, the wax probly fills in those pit under the heat and pressure mdf goes through
It might be, these were also the worst ones I made. For the ones that I made to sell I used a lot more pressure when packing and a lot of the pitting went away but adding wax might be what its missing to really give it a MDF feel.
2:38 forbidden rice crispy
We were just now working with sawdust, glue and food coloring because we needed detail but abhor epoxy resin. Don't get me wrong, we have a fiberglass boat and I think it might make a good waterproof coating for the inside of sawdust containers. Best edited video ever and my wood scrap pile is taking on a life of it's own.
Very interesting, how did the food coloring turn out? That briefly crossed my mind but never tried it.
@@Ideal_Idea It seems good. Our first thought was wood stain but we were not sure how well that would work with white glue. We sanded a little early as I was over eager but it sanded off easy by hand and easer with the drum sander. We sifted the sawdust so it was pretty fine and made a paste. We are testing an idea for wooden coasters with a design routed in with the cnc and we wanted it to look more rustic than something like epoxy. But the color is good and it seems the food color penetrated the wood dust for a nice consistent but rustic finish. A few more tweaks but looks like we are moving in the right direction.
The sleeve is a good idea. If left in contact with damp soil, the wood will swell... Just like a sheet of OSB left in the rain for an extended period.
I just found your channel and binge watched all of your videos! I absolutely love them and can't wait for the next one! Cheers!
Your videos are really funny to me I would definitely enjoy watching more of your creative content!
2:48 Common search.
Cool way of recycling sawdust!
I actually liked the first marble one
I want to think the wax is going to add some moisture resistance and additional adhesion. I am inspired to create something as my line of products is being based on upcycled wood, pallets and ruff cut saw mill discards.
I believe you're correct on the wax, if I do more tests I will be adding that to compare but if you end up doing it before me let me know how your projects workout!
Nice I like the difference in each one
eyyyy, love your videos man. i cant wait to see what else you make in the coming future
Over a year ago I thought of the same idea but haven't had a chance to make it because of my printer having several issues. I plan to do it with more fine sand dust and more glue so it has a smoother look I also wanted to dye or stain it interesting colors but it's cool to see someone make something I thought randomly a while back
this is great man
As for a sealer, I've been experimenting with clear spray Flex Seal on a planter that I made. It's held up outside for about six months now, with sign of wear or yellowing, as of yet. It could be an alternative to using a plastic sleeve. Definitely quicker.
Interesting use and not a product I would have considered, I will look more into that
Hi am in Nigeria.
I really enjoyed watching your video,
Am looking to make diy sawdust boards, and I loved how you explained your process and made everything easy to understand 👍⭐
Bro ur too funny love urs vids anytime they drop I’m super happy
1:15 the plant on the right is kinda lenghty and its leaves are spread apart.Prune the lank it part and give it more sunlight
Beautiful
Love your brain! Thank you for sharing
cool vid, hope ur channel blows up
Finally you are back 😊
Just a thought I had, what if you blended the sawdust to make it finer. I feel like it would be much more dense when packed. Not sure if that would make it stronger or not but just an observation I thought about. Lmk if you agree with that or not.
It would help, that is what i ended up doing it but it was really quick in this video. For the duplicates I made I blended it longer and it was definitely easier to get lass gaps
Dude everyone of these videos is a banger! Keep up the good work
7:24 aww that's sick bro 🎉
Thank you for the video and idea. If nothing else, it will get home usage
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Pots came out so nice and have this deserty look that's perfect for succulents or cacti
Also I kinda liked the first try with different coloration, it gives something like granite
Thank you! Also I love the idea of a cactus and make them desert like, that is a great idea.
Just found you today and Im addicted to your videos lmao, great quality and editing for your videos bro ❤
I suspect mixing the glue fire tly on sawdust leaves some areas concentrated. Other areas dry. If you evenly mix / dissolve the glue in water, then gradually add to sawdust & mix thoroughly you will get better gluing,easier drying and more even mix
Watching the 2nd video and i gotta tell you man, this channel is gonna blow up real soon. Amazing content again and again, real fun of your work man. Okay to the next video now🚶♂
terrarium update ? i think most of us were recommended that video and it would be cool to see the progression!
The look and texture kind of reminds me of a granite crossed with sandstone... "woodstone products" you could actually do a proper pressure mold with these, but I would probably pick a binder other than TB original either way, it breaks down in water, just in case.
What a great idea. I think I'll buy a compressor machine and make big cylinders with saw dust and use them in woodturning. Thanks bro! And you know what? They look really ANCIENT!
@10:30 because of the line, the darker one kinda looks semi-transparent in this shot (if you squint a bit)
i luv thius channel
it looks great...less judgements looks like cork
What about throwing it in a blender to make it fine then use epoxy since its a planter and would handle water well. its like your creating mud but using your woodworking byproduct.
I just discovered your chanel today and I love it! The videos are very well produced and I think there is so much potential for you to become a successful youtuber.❤❤❤
what ended up being the recipe for the final mix that you found worked out?
Just found your channel today, and you are really inspiring and motivating, I really look up to you and the insane quality of your videos and projects!
hey! what did you use for a mold release?
thank you for everything, you inspire
Imo mere hand pressing it into the mold left the end result to pourous. I'd be curious to see if it could be compacted better if put into a vacuum chamber since it would be impossible to do compaction through pressing it with any decent force. I'm thinking vacuum chamber might leave a smoother texture to the end result which I think would look much better. Especially going for that marble look.
Just found your channel and its what im looking for..coz i have a lot of sawdust also in the shop.. looking more idea how to use wooden sawdust..
If you could make the molds out of acrylic (cast them in acrylic resin? 🤷♂) you could see the layers as you add them and it would make it work kind of like sand art.
Not a bad idea, might be able to use clear PLA to print it as well and give some indication of the pattern youre making, any help to see the inside would be good instead of doing it blind haha
love your content!
I have been trying to make bee tubes for solitary bees using wood with out logs so I got tooth picks and turned them to sawdust and thank u
Good job. I'd absolutely love to see an experiment with burning it from outside using heat gun or flame to achieve different results.
Yooooo, new Video!
theres one thing about it thats good, u should be able to drop them and they dont shatter!!! thanks for the demo, i think its good to go, if someone could get it to look less like musli it probably would be a good thing. but probably it looks to go for me to try.
Great channel!! More comments for the algorithm!! Make it blow up!!
You should create the molds and sell those! I have lots of sawdust, a love for plants, and no printing machine!
Thanks Happy New Year
Hello i want to create a filebox but made out of sawdust what do you think?
awesome
“You are harsh… but fair…” 😂💀
7:35, slick
You might as well make them out of particle board that you can then wet and rub for the same look. You can even give them the marble effect by dragging a feather dipped in your contrasting color and randomly pulled across the surface.
Actually very creative. I wonder how it would look if you did a coat of clear epoxy on it? They could definitely sell also, I think.
That could work, the main thing I would just consider would be to get a UV resistant epoxy if they are sitting out in the sun.
You just earned yourself a subscriber 👍
I personally like the first
One
Do you know anything about thick(somewhat stiff) PVC laminate flooring? Or any flooring really, but the PVC kind i have the most of...
I got a rolling cosmetics cart out of our local recycling bins, including door locks (without keys unfortunately, but thankfully unlocked already) and according to what I've seen on eBay, it would normally come with 2-3 inch tall drawer bins, but unfortunately mine being a recycle bin find, didn't come with them. All that said, I've been looking for a way to easily make shelving to use instead of the standard drawer bins that would normally have been used, and going through all the different ideas I came across some leftover pieces of both wood laminate and PVC laminate flooring both of which have a rubber underlayment on the bottom, which I can then flip the shelving over if I need a shelving board that has a more non-slip grip on, and I've been wondering, for both the wood laminate flooring and the PVC laminate flooring, what kind of glue that I have her on the house, would work, to permanently join the two tongue and groove pieces together into one easily removable board that won't separate on the way out of or into the cart... Because I am using the lengthways tongue and groove portions and it not the end tongue and groove portions, it's obviously not a structural tongue and groove joint, just a joint that holds my rear and front boards together, and should be plenty strong enough for the small amount of weights that I will be using the rolling cart for, specifically for the most part, for lightweight crafting and computer maintenance stuff, such as screwdrivers, exacto knives, Velcro, cheap plastic paper cutters (not guillotine style but press and cut style) as well as other things such as shrink wrap tubing perhaps, and Milwaukee paint pens or whatever else I might want to add... I might even add some kind of an LED lighting system, so it isn't quite so dark in the unit, maybe...
But again, I'm just looking at ways to glue vinyl/pvc flooring tongue and groove flooring together, as well as doing the same thing with the limited wood laminate flooring scraps I have... I have a tiny scrap piece cut in half, with a bit of titebond 2 wood glue on, to test whether it will work on the tongue and groove parts of vinyl flooring, but again, it's WOOD glue, not vinyl glue, if there is such a thing, so I'm not holding out much hope
Awesome
This would be perfect for making composition dolls
How did you grind up the wood shavings to make them smaller?
I just put them in a blender for a very short amount of time, but to be honest I was unsure if it was actually safe or not so I didn't show it.
Really nice idea. I usually just use it around my garden boundary to suppress the weeds from the farmer's field. But I have so much of it I really don't know what to do with it. I think I'll try something like this.
You did what ever stay at home mom does
How resistent are those? Your editing is great btw
Good thanks
lol GOOGLE: "I accidentally ate sawdust that i thought was granola bar..." I fell off my chair hahaha!
What type of glue u use?
What is your binder for the sawdust?
I used just regular wood glue
@@Ideal_Idea thank you
Great idea. I'm looking at ways to copy my shoe soles, and this might be a direction I could look.
Also, did you speed up your vocal track? It's like I hear some artifacting in the video
so was it by weight or volume?
I just went by rough volume
the sec you nixed the wax i saw the sticking mold problem...the wax is the mold release
Bravo!
The off cuts are a personal problem, sawdust on the other hand, that's the kicker
I tried something similar to this once. What i will say is if you want a smoother look or more homogeneous use a strainer and the larger pieces you can break up in my wife’s blender. 🤫
can u used flour?
I love seeing the iteration process in your videos. Well done! The texture is not for me, but that's just personal taste. A great video nonetheless.
Hi Robert, this is Robert. I got your plans yesterday and it has a small problem. I did the inside sleeve twice, and both times the bottom fell off. Is there any way you can add 4 or 5 mm to the bottom, that might fix the problem. Then send me an update because I can't use cad programs, and this looks like it is something that is very nice. I would have done this on the Esty email, but it wouldn't let me. Waiting for a reply. Thank You. Bob
Hey bob, this is the first time I have heard of this problem so let me see if I understand it. Is it the file "Mold 02 - Inside Sleeve" you are having problems with? And it is just the bottom thickness you're having problems with or the walls as well? They are all the same thickness currently.
If you are meaning that the sleeve is loose in the final, that will depend on when you insert the interior sleeve curing the drying process as the sawdust seems to move slightly upon drying out.
I will message you on Etsy as well.
@@Ideal_Idea Thanks for replying so quickly. Yes it is the Mold 02 - inside sleeve. It looks like the bottom pulled away from inside the wall. Maybe if it had a small bevel along the that edge that could fix the problem. This is in the 3d printing of it. Other then that little problem it looks good.
@@roberthephner6985 I have added an additional file with those changes. If you redownload the file from Etsy that should include the altered file now. Hopefully that should work for you now.
Can we reduce weight using saw dust?
Can you make an Alessi themed lamp? Think it would be really interesting, and you certainly have the skill 👍
I'd like to see something like this, but made with a biodegradable glue like starch glue or something along those lines. That would be pretty cool.