HOW MUCH DOES THE NEW 40k GOOSENECK TRAILER REALLY WEIGH!?!?!
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Oh my lord.... the 08 sounds so good 🥵
Ya that clip of it backing up sounded mean AF.
Agree
What makes it sound like ol second gen ?
@@pryor3515 it's second gen turbo swapped, that'd be why
I was thinking it kind of sounded like an old detroit
Who's been here long enough to remember Greg saying he'd load the pj and tow with the 05.
I wonder how many of us actually watch him more than once every 6 months.
To save you guys 10 brutal minutes the weights start at 10:39
Thanks!
"you don't need to worry about it either way" 😂😂😂 Greg tellin' em how it is!
I think there’s more guys running around over 26k w goosenecks w/o CDL As than that have it ....A CDL B doesn’t work for any of these trailers.
@@JohnDiMartino definitely. The 05 in the vintage behind the dually has gotta be over 26k and there are weekend warriors with similar setups all over the place. It's crazy to me the sketchy towing some people do, and then you have people busting balls of youtubers that have a CDL A and are doing everything by the book. I've seen guys hauling large skid steers/excavators behind 1/2 ton trucks, no one bats an eye.
you should do the comparison with the F450 and see the differences
08 sounds mint, I love that the top of the diamond c is removable. That is a great option.
I would love to see you all actually go thru setups that you can haul with each truck factored in legally. It’s really interesting to me how all the details factor in even down to how they weigh you if you get stopped. So many people including me tow but don’t know enough about those details. Some may find it boring but using your stuff you have a great way to show examples for us if you can find an expert on the laws and equipment.
I wanna see the race trailer hooked up to the pete😩
Be kinda hard without a gooseneck bal on the pete
That’s what I’ve been saying for months now 😂🤣
@@glennrobichaux7490 he can pull the gooseneck hitch off the trailer and slide in a fifth wheel. They’re a couple hundred bucks.
@@smcox1991 yes but so is a gooseneck ball for the pete lol. Here's an idea, he can get a semi trailer for the semi
@@smcox1991 a gooseneck ball between the tail section behind the rear most set of tires would be good enough. Thats what most HDT RV Haulers do.
Only variable left is fuel usage, so you should be +/- 30lbs depending on how far the scale is from you
If you're loading the new Diamond C trailer with 2 trucks on it, the dually will be over its gross 14k. With the trailer empty you only have about 1k lbs. you can add to the pin weight. Looks like the Peterbilt needs to get done.
All the non cdl guys are like “👀” 😂😂😂
Very much so😂😂
seeing the weight of that thing gave me a jump scare. LOL
do you need a CDL to drive tow that?
hahaha "Truck breaks in half, Go home crying like lil girl" too funny 😁
That 08 with the Diamond C combo is a dream setup for me
Definitely need more video of the 08 rolling! Damn, that’s a nice truck!
That diamond is sweet.. Big girl.. 4700 is eating into cargo
I have a 2020 Diamond C FMAX 212 44 foot goose-neck with Max Ramps and electric over hydraulic disc brakes. It weights in at 8,800 lbs. on the CAT scale. I have another 2020 Diamond C FMAX 207 35 foot with 17.5 tires that weights in at 5,500 lbs. Those pumps and extra boxes really add up.
John
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My first thought before checking gvw was that you could probably load the enclosed on the diamond c. Diamond c is a beast. Badass set up of rigs
Daaaaaamnnnn the 3rd gen sounds goooooodddd
Some of that weight transfers over to the truck so once you hook the trailer up to whatever you're pulling it with it's a combination vehicle. Truck gvwr + trailer gvwr = combination rating. Then subtract the total combination weight and that's your capacity. Then you just need to make sure you stay under each individual axle rating. Same concept but results will vary depending which truck you hook up. Loving the new trailer🤑
The 3500 Dually is only rated for 14k so it leaves only 900 lbs. he can add to the pin weight. I'd get rid of the upper deck or get a bigger truck.
@@Itsa_Mea Yeah, the truck is the main deciding factor. I'd take that 3500 any day though😂
I'm looking to upgrade from my single rear wheel to a dually. Would love to see a video comparing the 3500 to the 450
450 is the way to go the turning is insane have had my 450 for a 1year and 3 months no problem 60k miles on it always towing between 10k to 30k pounds have different size trailers
Seems like Greg needs himself a 5500 to tow that beast of a trailer
That’s right a 5500 with a flat bed and tuned 👌
Well that’s what the Pete is for
That would be sick and leave the 3500 dually for the vintage
@@brandonarmstrong2783 fair enough but she's not done yet
@@alandillon6469 or trade it in for the 55
When he gets the SRW reved up high it almost sounds like a Detroit😂
I literally have a smile on my face this entire video. Nothin better than drivin your stuff through town
That was a fun vid, also GAWT DAYM the 08! If you were to put the old compound setup from the dually onto the 08 that is literal dream truck.
The chrome wheels on the DC are freaking me out, man! 😂
So excited for the giveaway. Just the trailer I want and get to meet Greg and silent mike. 🔥👍🔥👍🔥👍🔥👍🔥
I'd be interested to see a comparison between the dually and Mike's 450.
bulk of the weight is in the frame. from working on 53 footer and what not the axles are not that heavy by themselves. and the decking may be a large part
450 vs 3500 rundown comparison! 100percent need that!
Bwaaaahahaaha the F450 spanks that 🐏 ram Greg. wishful thinking Greg but it’s a “raam”not a ram lmao 😂
That trailer would be perfect for material pick ups for my construction business. I’ve NEVER entered any these give aways from any youtubers but I just bought a shirt.
Show the 450 some love. Video on mikes truck 😋
Not to sound like a negative Nancy but you can only haul what the truck is legally aloud you to haul doesn’t matter what the trailer can haul it’s what the truck will allow you to haul, plus just a heads up I know for a fact that the dot is pulling more and more pickup trucks over and weighing them and they are getting busted for being to heavy
Interesting to see how much weight gets added to the tow rig with just the empty trailer. The steer axle + drive axle added together can not exceed the GVWR of the tow rig. Many CDL & non CDL drivers are overweight for this reason.
Exactly what I commented on. The dually GVWR is 14k. That only leaves 980#s of pin weight he can add & he wasn't even full of fuel. That trailer is just too big for a pickup.
The 08 is the best sounding one in the fleet!
Question for you what would you charge to transport 2-20’ foot shipping containers gross weight 24K from New Jersey to California 2905 miles appreciate any feedback.
DIAMOND C needs to make things right for Andrew stevens. You can’t zip tie hydraulic cylinders!
I have already reached out to my contacts from them to take over! I have faith in the Diamond C people, btw I'm pretty sure the other trailer shop was the zip ties, NOT Diamond C. Im sure they will get it sorted out.
diamond c is already making it right. cant let a bad dealer trash a good company
Hell yeah!! 👊🏽🖤🖤 I'm ready to yank that trailer around the Texas panhandle!!
Not sure the specifics of your truck but with a GVWR of 14K you are almost there (5220+7860=13,080) and you mentioned you only had about 1/4 tank or less of fuel. By the time you fill it all the way up and put anything else in the truck you could be overweight on the truck. With big trailers come extra looking by the weights and measurements guys. With a GCWR of a 2018 highest rating on the 3500 is 31,210 you can only load about 9,110 on that trailer before you are overweight, which that weight if not over axles of the trailer would add more into the pin weight and could put the truck over its GVWR. Don't get into an accident being overweight or the lawyers will have a field day in court. 😎😎 Its all about the tow vehicle ratings and not the specs on the trailer specifically. You would need a much larger hauler to get anywhere near the 40K rating on the trailer.
I'm glad someone else understands how it all works. Just like a chain is only as strong as the weakest link, you can only tow as much as the lowest rating, whether it's the truck, trailer or your license.
Y'know what would be sick. Get a standard 2" kingpin, swap the ball coupler for the Diamond C and hook it to that Pete in the background
The dually hauling the enclosed trailer just looked basass
Let's the the f450 towing the Diamond C
I really hope I win this trailer 🙏 it will take my business to the next level
That dually is goals 😍🙌🏻
I hve a important question a dulley gooseneck 40 ft trailer flatbed, would it still be considered the same experience if im drivin a. Tractor trailer 53ft? Bc i would take this job if i still would get credit for it
I was super close on new trailer weight (12.5k), got vintage close at 12k, truck spot on at 9k, was wrong on PJ at 7.5k. It was cool to see the actual weights. Need the Peterbuilt to max out the new trailer I believe. Dont think the 18' will be legal. But two duallies and trailer would be ok.
what's the toe GVW for the dually? You need to weigh the new trailer with all the gear and trucks loaded on it!!!! I just retired from truck driving and with a double axle with a 48 foot enclosed trailer my GVW was 80,000. You got the Pete for the big loads, so you'll have no problem toeing !!!
That 5.9 Cummins sounds a lot like a L10 Cummins
The one weight you're going to need to watch is the GVWR on the truck. With the Diamond C you're sitting at 13,080 lbs on the truck. The GVWR is only 14,000 so you can't even put another 1,000 lbs on the truck legally, that'd be tongue weight, passengers, anything else in the bed. If you're not needing/using it I'd take the upper deck off as that's adding a good bit of weight on the truck.
Technically speaking there is no law that states it is illegal to exceed gross vehicle weight rating. Do I condone it, no. But it is not technically illegal
@@shaneselby2139 Well there certainly is here in Canada. I know guys that have been held at scales until they can either move some weight around and get their weights legal or have had to wait for someone to come so that they can unload some of it. Usually they're pretty lenient if an axle is over but your gross is still legal. But if your gross is over you're done. At least my experience running trucks.
Your numbers are not applied accurately. The tongue weight of the trailer goes against the truck's gvwr. 13080 trailer has a tongue weight of 1,962lbs at 15%. So add the 1,962 and weight of the truck which was 9080. They total 11042. So they are under the 14,000 of the trucks gvwr. People need to find out what their tongue weight is on how the load their trailers.
Well I didn’t know you could that and so easily, I would have probably chucked the lot and sulked about it for weeks. Thank you Ezrider.
Does the DC sticker call out a weight of the trailer? And available payload? Just curious if there sticker matches actual weights.
What gooseneck ball kit is rated for 40k?
Curt makes a 3 inch 38000lbs ball
Like the Man's mission truck, it sounds sweet going thru the gears..
Just come across your channel.. I have a 16' tri axle trailer and you're limited here (UK) to 3500kg towing vehicle, trailer and load which is 7716lbs
We NEED to see the Diamond C loaded up heavy and a tow test comparison between the ram 3500 and Silent Mike's F450!!!!
I’d love to see the vintage and the diamond c with the Pete ! A local race car team drives past my hose with a similar trailer with a lower e nasty Pete. It looks amazing !!
Greg was going to do a F450 vs 3500 comparison video but the Ford could not make it through an inch of snow to enter the driveway.
You are living the dream. Big inspiration brother
How would my 2020 3500 Chevy do with a 40 ft dual trailer ?
The truck Silent Mike is driving sounds great
Everything is still sold out, how else can I enter?
Think the DC is substantially heavier than in needs to be in part due to ordering the deck framing on 12” centers instead of the standard 16”....this IMO was unnecessary for the application (truck hauling) and added alot of steel, especially when the deck was also upgraded to (heavier) blackwood
Def curious on the empty weight of the Ford
Nice to see the 08 out not just going to waste
Limiting factor on towing big in a Ram 3500 is payload. Limiting factor in towing big in a Ram 5500 is tow rating. The Ram 3500 cannot really tow at its tow rating because of payload. I mean the 3500's most people buy. Crew cab with features and 4x4.
Definitely need to do a loaded tow comparison between the 3500 and Mike's 450.
15:45 lightbulb moment🤣🤣🤣
Love to see the comparison.
Im curious if the empty weight they put on the Diamond C tag was close to what the CAT scale said
My dads 15 powerstroke tows and I’m every snow storm and biggest salter made and biggest plow both from boss and tows a backhoe with them both on
Should have put the DragonBall clip of Vegeta stating "its over 9000!"...
Silent mikes final comparison is pretty mind blowing
Should have weighed the Pete!
Put the front axle down and the Diamond C will track much better
Pulling that much weight is not the problem. Stopping all that weight in a safe manner is the question.
Did he ever mention brake upgrades? DC offers electric over hydraulic or full electric disc upgrades...
Don't forget about the gcwr ratting of the dually.that is a important number
what are you permitted for?
Alternate Title: Greg and Silent Mike play around at a truck stop and prank the cat scales.
Thought u would let the 450 pull a trailer to the scale
08 does sound beautiful towing. But I want to see the f450 vs the 3500 that would be a good one.
I busted 3 times hearing those turbo sounds 😅
The 08 is my dream truck but in a short bed version
Greeeeeeg. Lemme build your 2nd gen lights. Morimoto everything.. trust.
Hit him up on IG, better chance of a response
Having air ride on the diamond trailer...insane!
My 4th gen chassis cab, flatbed, 22.5s weighs 10k lol i was thinking yours would be 9500.
What's the rear axle capacity on your dually because three of the scales loaded you'll need to know how much can be on that axle
How are you towing a trailer w air brakes with a conventional pick up truck?
No air brakes...air suspension...brakes are either electric or electric over hydraulic...
What is your set up grossed at ? U need to be at 40,000 at max set
Question how much gross weight are you able to pull in total?
Nice rigs 👍 What kind of driving license do you need? In Sweden we have to have an extended driving license to tow up to 7000 kg (car + trailer), If you passing that weight you need a truck license :-)
26001 pounds and up requires a Commercial Drivers License in the US. And in some states if the trailer alone weighs over 10k lbs. you would need one.
Greg A is the man !
Sounds like you need one of those limited 5th gen 4500s blacked out
So that means if whoever wins the pj trailer will need cdl licenses to use?
Is the 3rd gen a 24v? Or did they even offer that at the time
Вот это мощность вот прицепы, слов нет очень круто, молодцы, реально очень интересный прицеп,
Yes + a wait comparison
Love diamond c and how far they have come with there trailers im getting ready to order a new trailer soon same trailer with winch plate I have a 17k winch and a dunnage box. I'm more curious if the reason yours weight is so high is bc of the full rubber deck mine will be all wood easier to side load skids my pj has rubber on the hydro dovetail and skids alway get hung up on the rubber section my pj my pj had about all it can take!!! It works every day since 2016 it's also air ride best design ever my dry weight on my pj is 10k 43ft long no upper deck.
my dimond c will have upper deck . Love you content by the way I'm a cummins freak too
Isn’t the weight normally on the trailer info plate?
How come you didn't used the semi ??
Fingers crossed I would love to win this trailer !! Be awesome to get to keep
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