Opera Singer Reacts to Epica Consign to Oblivion | MASTERCLASS | Performance Analysis |
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Mark is basically screaming uncomfortable truths at us, the things we are afraid to face, while Simone is looking for self growth regarding whatever issue Mark is talking about. The third voice, the choire, has the role of hinting at hidden(often literally by being in Latin), higher and spiritual truths regarding the issue that can inform Simone(and us) on ways to move past whatever blockage is in our way.
Many of their songs follow this structure, but sometimes they switch it up and Mark is the voice of reason while Simone is naive or even egotistical. In other songs Simone's lyrics can represent the highest wisdom, like a deity talking sense to her children, while Mark basically lists all the ways we fool ourself personally or as a society.
It's worth noting that Mark has a Master's in Psychology, and their song's are very much an outhgrowth of his profession.
In this particular song I interprete it as being about the fast paced, stressful rat race of modern life, and how it hinders happiness and ultimately traps us in a state of no self realisation.
Really good explanation..you said it right 👍
Next Epica performance should definitely be "Chasing the dragon live from retrospect" Simone has an awesome performance in it.
I love that you noticed the juxtaposition! The singing style that Simone and Mark use is called “Beauty and the Beast,” and it was first pioneered by another metal group, Theatre of Tragedy, in the 90s. Symphonic metal has sort of adapted it for their own means, but Epica is probably the most well-known symphonic metal band that uses the style. Mark’s growls are difficult to understand at first, I certainly agree - he is not particularly renowned for them, either, as it took him a while to nail what sound he was going for - but as you listen to more symphonic metal with growls (and I hope that you do!), they will become easier to understand.
In terms of the meaning, you were just about spot on. However, in the beginning, Mark’s “character,” per say, is really acting as society’s problematic individuals - those who are too focused on ambition and greed, and whose only goal is to make money and move up in life. Simone’s “character” spends much of the song questioning the value of such a lifestyle, and then the band hits their message home at the end: there is more to life than higher positions, lol. I’m glad that you chose to look at the lyrics though, because they are a huge part of the genre, and not every reactor thinks of doing the same!
Lastly, as other commenters have noted, Consign to Oblivion is not always the best place to start with Epica, but considering you have actually started to delve into their works, I am still pleased. Most reactors hear Nightwish, hear Epica’s Sandra Terra, and call it a day; however, Epica has many many other musical gems, the majority of which do not feature Mark as heavily. If you would like to hear some other interesting songs, I have a few recommendations:
Chasing the Dragon, live at Retrospect
Design Your Universe, live at Zenith
Cry for the Moon in the recording studio (this is a very old video, but it shows just how young Simone is, and how much her voice has developed since the video was made)
Any of the Kingdom of Heaven trilogy (which together make up close to 40 minutes of music): some Epica fans are not as fond of The Quantum Enigma, KoH part 2, but I find that the entire trilogy is a wonderful representation of all the band has to offer. As others have said, the third part just came out in Epica’s latest album earlier this year, and the band recently released a “live” recording of many of the new album’s songs called Omega Live. It, too, would be worth checking out.
Thank you for this amazing reaction, and I hope to see more Epica in the future!
Cry For the Moon HD version! Not the old 240p video with horrible audio :-/
Yes KOH2 is great as well. It really encompasses Epica's symphonic sound while KOH and KOH3 encompasses there progressive and death metal influences.
@@redfielduniverse and "The Holographic Principle - A Profound Understanding of Reality".
For me that's like another KoH, lol :)
You are so right on so many levels with this comment. KOH-P1, CTO, SOSD, and VOC, are not the best intros to Epica. I also agree that KOH-P2 is a criminally underrated masterpiece along with THP. On a personal note, KOH-P3 is my fav, but I love them all.
@@cancelled_user Well it's a long and grand song with masterful orchestrations, masterful vocals, and hard hitting instruments. I want so reactors to listen to whole The Divine Conspiracy song and not the 7min one but the 14min one
Mary Zimmer of voice hacks, Karadavox academy are harsh vocal coaches that have TH-cam channels also Melissa Cross.
Jinjer, spiritbox, and Lorna shore all have one take vocal performances to see these harsh vocals close up. Worth checking all of it out.
I would add to this Avienne from Vintersea as they chose the best camera angle for her vocal performance with Metal Injection, IMHO. Or Diva Satanica from Nervosa. Sadly, the face of Lorna Shore´s vocalist is mostly hidden behind his pop filter.
I second that.
Came to the comments to look for Mary Z.
And Lorna Shore's Will Ramos just got a Laryngoscopy done on fellow opera singer Elizabeth Zharoff's channel The Charismatic Voice - that ought to be interesting as well :3
The bit of major key music fooled you. . . . . . . . .It was of course, La Marseillaise - The French National Anthem which makes sense at a Paris concert !
I noticed that you reacted to Sancta Terra with Floor a few months ago, which is one of the songs in Epica´s repertoire that does not have any harsh vocals in it. And this is one of the few songs in which they are prevalent. It is quite an old song as it is from Epica´s second album (with the same name) (the band released its 8th this year), which came out in 2005 (the band was founded in 2003). It was the heaviest song back then. It is almost invariably the last song during shows - to end with a bang, literally. Simone´s vocal lines in this were written in the way to take a full advantage of her head voice, which was the most developed part of her voice at that point in time (her backing vocalists took care of the rest). She has spent years by developing other areas of her voice since then, of course. Hopefully, this does not scare you away from Epica´s music for ever.
As an opera singer, it might be of interest to you that Mark Jansen (one of the Epica´s founders and the growling guitarist on the left) founded a supergroup called MaYaN in 2010, which actually has an opera singer from Italy named Laura Macri as one of its five vocalists. 🙂But it is fair to say that MaYaN is more brutal than Epica - symphonic death metal. MaYaN - Rebirth from Despair (Live at Masters of Rock 2019)
but they have true acoustic ballad Dhyana :)
@@ArvoR You are right, of course. 🙂
MaYaN has just like EPICA heavier stuff to headbang/mosh to, ballads to get calm and emotional and everything in between 🙃🤘🏻
Founded 2002, The Phantom Agony came out 2003.
@@redfielduniverse But the 10th anniversary concert was in 2013.
I think it might be because the band first had a different name so they count it from 2003 as Epica?
I wish an opera singer would react to Trois Vierges. Simone's voice is so beautiful in it. Maybe not a full-blown operatic soprano but still pure beauty.
Plus an extra bonus in that song... I'd give anything for them to make a full album together.
Epica - kingdom of heaven pt3 (omega alive). A masterpiece, love the song/work of art. Enjoy 😁
Absolutely one of the defining works of Symphonic Metal, I don't know any band that can top it currently, and I can't wait to hear it once someone eventually does!(Kinda think that will be Epica as well lol)
Yes, there are indeed teachers of the style of vocal the guitarist (he is called Mark) is using. He is growling which is related to, but not quite the same as screaming, another metal vocal technique. There are some quality vocal coaches on TH-cam that teach growling and screaming if you would like to find out more.
Thanks for this video. I loved all of your reaction videos and can't wait to see more!
As a huge Epica fan I have to admit it puzzels me why people would suggest this particular performance as a first introduction to EPICA when the vast majority of their music is so much more melodic, and much more focused on Simone's vocals, I know that Jess is pretty open minded musically, I hope this doesn't put her off listening to some of the more beautiful, stunning compositions that we all know and love from this band
Agreed, she needs to see Kingdom of Heaven part 3 too! That said, Consign to Oblivion is a beautiful piece of music as well, just on the heavier spectrum, dark majesty I would call it.
I would probably go for the other one Epica recorded in Zenith. I mean Simone is, at least, present there during the whole song, which is not the case with Consign to Oblivion. 🙂 I suspect it might have been chosen because somebody wanted to compare this reaction to others made by creators who focus on vocals. In such a case, this song is the only choice, which is a bit sad.
I guess it's for the shock factor. Also: If you can withstand this amount of Mark, then you should be good for the rest of their catalog. I have seen many people who don't get the concept of Epica and are like 'Simone is great, too bad about Mark'.
but this is not her first epica reaction though, she already reacted to sancta terra
@@holobenthic
yes I know, but that was a long time ago and a lot of the focus was on Floor
The host of the Kardavox Academy YT channel teaches harsh vocals, so I highly recommend his channel if you want to learn more about those techniques. Thank you for the great reaction. When opposing vocals in Epica songs, Simone is usually the voice of explanation, questioning, investigation, resolution and light. Mark is usually the voice of injuction, wake up calls, directness, command and darkness. The goal of the song is usually to arrive at an harmony between the two approaches. This is *super* evident in the songs Abyss of Time and The Skeleton Key.
Seconding Kardavox academy.
Oh, man! I love Epica! Lol. I'm so looking forward to this reaction.
Update: This was fabulous! What a great reaction and breakdown analysis of the music and voices. I always know I'll get an education with your videos. Love it. 💛
If you're looking for other songs to react to, Kingdom of Heaven III off their latest album is fantastic th-cam.com/video/BdBCVMD8TiM/w-d-xo.html. But, honestly, you can't go wrong listening to anything from this band.
And now...some resources! Lol
I've seen a lot of people mentioning MaryZ and Kardavox here for harsh vocal tutorials, but I'd like to add Angela Gossow to the list. She's one of the pioneers in the field and taught an awesome workshop that's on the TH-cam th-cam.com/video/fCMcu18sigc/w-d-xo.html.
Elizabeth from The Charismatic Voice is fascinated by harsh vocals and has done a few interviews now with vocalists about their technique and voice care - I recommend the ones with Will Ramos from Lorna Shore, Tatiana Shmayluk from Jinjer, and Devin Townsend. They all have super interesting things to say about how they produce those incredible sounds, etc.
Examples of each recommended artist:
Angela Gossow - Nemesis th-cam.com/video/7sp-RBz-KE0/w-d-xo.html
Will Ramos - To the Hellfire (official video) th-cam.com/video/qyYmS_iBcy4/w-d-xo.html, (one-take sing through) th-cam.com/video/VO3NSHk3wl0/w-d-xo.html
Tatiana Shmayluk - Judgement (& Punishment) (one take sing through) th-cam.com/video/Q5rg_63Shqg/w-d-xo.html
Devin Townsend - Kingdom (live) th-cam.com/video/nubJjB95VdY/w-d-xo.html
One of the things i love most about channels like yours, is that finally these metal bands get the recognition, exposure and respect that they trully deserve. Please keep on doing your thing
Rock on! Thank you!
@@jessicasopranonotes No, thank you!
I agree. Especially when it’s someone that can appreciate the technical aspects of it and really highlight just how talented they are.
You can now order your tickets for their 20 years universary sept 3 2022
You are welcome
Already have mine.
Just did that, this afternoon. Happy!
I really think yours are one of the best (if not the best) vocal analysis I've seen here!
I love when you sing over the theme while explaining.
Thanks a lot! We love you!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
@@jessicasopranonotes You have no idea how frustrating it is when you know a bit of music theory and undesrtand what is going on in metal like this, and how insanely skilled these performers and composers are, but people around you dismiss it straight away because of the mental effort required to decode it. Actually, as an opera singer you probably understand that very well, which might be why opera/classical music, and metal are growing closer by the day. Imagine a dramatic piece of opera with the occasional fierce, thunderous growl for emphasis!
That's the experience Epica are going for. This song is one of their most growl heavy ones, to such a degree it stands out in their discography. Keep reacting to them and see what opera and classical music has grown into!
@@jessicasopranonotes I hope you react to More EPICA! Love watching you say how you see it.
I had the pleasure to listen to this band live 3 times in the past decade and Simone and the entire band have been "epic" each and every single time. Maybe my untrained ears cannot pick up small mistakes but imo, they always sound exactly as their studio albums. And their latest album is absolutely fantastic!!!
Jess, notice the juxtaposition is not only in the music. The stage lights are a stark white on a black background, Simones dress is shiny silver and black stripes. Epica is contrast. Life is a mix of light and dark.
Love ur reaction as always, you should check their Omega Alive (Kingdom of Heaven part 3, Unchain Utopia, Skeleton Key or Victims of Contigency) it's just on another level, beautiful music and great production. 🤘🏻
Thank you for this analysis, I really like how you start with asking why this piece needs this or that element. It's interesting to hear how a pro actually thinks. You hit that sweet spot between knowledge and pure joy!
For some more of the soprano/growl combo, I highly recommend Seven Spires. In their songs, one and the same lady, Adrienne Cowan, does both. They have one-take videos with her singing full songs on their channel.
Jess, you should check out "Amazing Flight" by Ayreon. The live version of course.
Good one liked,The bit in the middle is a few notes of the French national anthem, they are in Paris after all.
You picked one heck of a song to react to when it comes to Epica. It's one of their most complex songs overall.
As to your question about Mark's vocal style, yes, it is a deep, grounded technique that doesn't stress the vocal chords much.
So glad to see this react, it's such a cool song.
If you were to react to another song by Epica, I'd recommend Storm the Sorrow. It's not one of their most universally loved but it really showcases their beauty and the beast style.
Hey Jess, just wanna give my interpretation of the lyrics. Idk if u read it all but to me, Simone line's are abt the correct way, the right way of doing things in life while Mark grunt are abt what we actually do. We know that money is a vicious thing, that some actions have bad consequences and we still do it while our conscious are telling us that this is wrong.
Love that u r knowing more of epica 💙💙💙
Yeah I interpret it as her saying how can we close our eyes and let this happen despite seeing the problems (applicable to so much, climate change, wars, poverty, hunger, education), and he is "shutting her up by saying that the only thing that matters is the short time like paying bills and focusing on yourself, no place to worry about larger and more complex issues.
@@carpediem5232 Yes, Mark is basically screaming uncomfortable truths at us, while Simone is looking for self growth regarding whatever issue Mark is talking about. The third voice, the choire, has the role of hinting at hidden(often literally by being in Latin), higher and spiritual truths regarding the issue. Many of their songs follow this structure, but sometimes they switch it up and Mark is the voice of reason while Simone is naive or even egotistical.
I love how much your body gets into the music. Thank you for pointing out the drum themes.
RE: you question about techniques for harsh vocals. Melissa Cross is perhaps the godmother of harsh vocal coaches, and she is very very busy (as you can imagine). I believe she has done some interviews with YT vocal coach reactors, so you might search out nuggets of wisdom in that manner. From what I gather from reading moth uptodate books on vocals and doing some research as directed by a few vocal coaches, there is a large opportunity for filling in our knowledge-base on the myriad of techniques that are used.
I'm a head-n-neck anatomy/physiology nerd (general dentist with a focus on pathology at the U/faculty level in the early 2000s) but while we can identify "which tissues are responsible for certain sounds", our knowledge of how to direct/which innervation is driving the process hasn't been completely verified (i.e. since their is a fair amount of variability in CN innervation/pathways/'sympathetic innervation', etc, as well as actual volumes of air being moved... it varies quite a bit between techniques) there might be some intuitive techniques being used out there on stage that are not yet fully documented/understood. I know there's been talk between some coaches and practitioners about doing specific laryngeal visualization sessions in a med-environment (where all kinds of attributes can be monitored) but I don't think they've happened yet.... I would love to be a fly on that wall.
But hey, I was looking into this during the first half of the year... much could have changed since then.
Anyway, it is always such a pleasure to watch your reactions to the wide variety of music.
Keep up the good work !!
Nothing that would be systematic has not been done yet as far as I know. There are video recordings from laryngoscopies of some vocalists who do harsh vocals like this one: Does SCREAMING damage the VOCAL CORDS?! Lauren Hart (Once Human) finds out.
@@Immortall1408 There is a small but interesting Vocal Pathology clinic in a somewhat local, large teaching U nearby. I was faculty there (diff clinic) for 3 years in the early 2000s. I'd give up my own biz to work there, but my specialty is only tangentially similar, and only by 'locale'. Anyway, I want to touch base w/them to see if they need a DMD/former engineer to sit in as a tech on random days. It would be a blast.
thank you for your reaction, I almost didnt watch it cause Ive seen the song so many times already. but again, you brought up a question nobody else was asking. very smart, I didnt even think about the oppositions in their vocal parts. ♥ have a great day, love your voice :)
jeees you are the only reaction that does put work in , looking at the lyrics and the technical stuff of singing this way great joib love it !
Other worlds, other realities… that’s what they take me, now I love these bands of symphonic metal, they’re so interesting, this genre is so intriguing! Thank you, Jess!!!! 💪🏼💪🏼👏🏼👏🏼
More EPICA pls!!! Love EPICA FOREVER and EVER!!! 🖤🤘🏻
What was so fun!! Thanks 👍
Definitely do more EPICA!! PLEASE AND THANK YOU!
One of the best reaction video I have ever seen! The way you breakdown vocals with lyrics to get better view on performance is just amazing. Definitelly gonna check more videos from you! Also the faces that you make are pure gold😂
Thank you for watching!
Best live performance I've ever seen in my nearly 53 years..
This is a fantastic analysis. I don't think I have seen anyone break down the meaning of the song like this before.
Simone: Voice of Dream, Optimism, Hope, the Positive
Mark: Voice of Reason, Desire, Need, the Negative
As these principles oppose each other, so do their voices and singing styles. Since you figured it out, you might REALLY enjoy "Kingdom of Heaven". :)
A really nice surprise in my Sunday ^^.
This is straight up one of my favorite compositions of all time in all genres. Love how you feel that double bass❤️(long drum theme)
It's pure genius and has this dark majestic vibe that I can't really compare to anything else. The last 10 seconds are peak musical climax.
Epica unleashed live official a must
This is going to be good!
I have seen a ton of reactions of this song, my all time favorite Epica song and all time favorite live version, but this is by far the best and most indepth intelligent one. Kudos! :D
I say we do Blind Guardian and Hansi Kürsch next. Keeping the theme of Ayeron singers...
Jess is missing out, all the other good reactors have done it. Hansi is versatility incarnate.
Start with the Wacken video, it's the perfect introduction. th-cam.com/video/i-IcX_bccFc/w-d-xo.html
I'd perhaps even go w Fiddler on the green first, especially that combo video w Crimson king. I mean, it's such a shame Jon turned out to be an idjit, so we won't get any more D&W, but that show was exceptional.
Epica is a rabbit hole like Nightwish. So many great songs and lead singer is amazing. Plenty of suggestions. Design your Universe, unleashed, kingdom of heaven, 1,2,3. Storm the sorrow. Cry for the moon, phantom agony. Endless suggestions. They just did a very special virtual concert.
Thank you do much !!!
I'm totally loving that you're doing the interpretation of the lyrics at the same time. That's awesome. What you might be missing is that some of Simone's verses are actually choir verses. There are some other videos where you can see them live with choir and orchestra and it's easier to notice. To me, that's a third "character" in most of Epica songs. Thanks for this great video!
Thanks for a great reaction. Very informative.
Thank you for watching Jeffery!
One amongst my favorite from Epica and the best version of this one ! I remember your react to Sancta Terra... this one is a real introduction to their music. Thanks !
This is one of my favourite Epica songs! A perfect ending to their concerts. I found your interpretation of the beginning of Simone's lyrics interesting! I always have imagined is as her demanding "how can we let this happen?" basically, how can we just sit back and do nothing. And then like you said Mark contrasts that by saying we got bills to pay etc.
I really enjoy your reactions, and you pick up on a lot of interesting things that I normally wouldn't!
Thank you, Lynne!
I love how Simone likes to include Coen (the keyboardist) into some of the songs whenever Mark growls.
I just love your insights and meticulos explanations. Also thank you for focusing on the Lyrics, trying to figure out why some parts are arranged the way they are around them, these aspects are usually bypassed but in the symphonic genre it's vital for the comprehension of the songs, especially with Epica.
I'd recommend though to dive into their "Omega Alive" show, which has been recently released. Vocals are all live even if the show has been prerecorded.
Also I'd recommend another metal dutch singer, Dianne van Giersbergen (not related to the Anneke though) which is a classically trained singer, which has a very interesting voice and also writing skills, shown in her "Exlibris" project.
Wow finally....🔥🔥
What I find amazing about this performance is this is the last song of the concert yet they played with the energy of a opening song.
Great analysis :)
Thanks!
This is a reaction, congrats 👏
So great you reacted to this brilliant song. Thank you and salude from tha Netherlands.
Thank you for watching!
You're gonna love Deathcry of a race, from Ayreon, The Source
It includes an operatic duet with Simone and Floor vs an arabic verse from Genesis, it's absolutly fabuious
This should be awesome😄
"Low to the ground we feel safe. Low to the ground we feel brave". Never as cowardice being better phrased, imho. I love that bit of the song.
thanks for sharing i hope you get to react to more of Epica or Therion :)
Hi Sopran
Greetings from Denmark😘😘😘👍👍👍, thank you for reating to this song
Merry Chismas
Greetings Jesper
About the voice technique of screaming: check out the charismatic voice interviewing Lzzy Hale of Halestorm
Great reaction. I came in at the last couple of minutes
Thank you so much for watching!
Have you ever heard of Tarja Turunen? Soprano former singer of Nightwish, who is divided between classical and metal repertoire. He recommends you for the classical repertoire "Mein Herr Marquis, Strauss" or the "Ave Maria, Paolo Tosti" and for the metal repertoire Nemo or I Walk Alone, from his first solo album.
Epica is amazing!
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Melissa Cross is a voice teacher who wasnt involved with the metal scene and out of the necessity of one of her students, learned how to do gutturals, grunts and growls technically and in a healthy way to teach them, you should really check on her
Jesica a reaction by you as always so deep in lirixs and music realy mutch better then those other reactors i cant wait till your reactions on epica s last album and arjen lucassen s new star one album. Keep on the good work 💝💝💝
Hi Jessica. Thanx for another amazing reaction and glad that you like it. As your next reaction to Epica please react to "Design your universe" Live Retrospect. You will love and be amazed by it and we as fans will be fortunate that you reacted to it :)
Hi ....... i love this song but to answer ur question regards to vocal coaches for the harsh vocals .... then yes there are ...... there is a way of training ur vocals to do this style without damaging ur vocal chords ........ great reaction ur facial expressions r classic keep rocking girl 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🖤🇬🇧
Consign to Oblivion is awesome, but i think you would be better off listening to Design your univerve live retrospect if you want a better grasp of both their vocal capabilities
A great reaction, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@jessicasopranonotes Hi Jess.
I hope you're going through all comments.. We Epicans are giving you some great suggestions ;)
"Consign to Oblivion" is one of their heaviest songs with most harsh vocals and little of Simone's singing (not her best performance of this song either). But if you survived this without any harm, then you can now react to anything from Epica, lol!
"Kingdom of Heaven part 3" from their online streaming concert "Omega Alive" is a mindblowing performance. I bet you've never seen anything like that. The production is insane. The song itself is a masterpiece of symphonic metal. 13 minutes of pure brilliance.
If you'd like to focus on Simone, go for their old orchestral ballads (no metal at all), like "Trois Vierges" or "Safeguard to Paradise". Epica musical compositions and orchestral arrangements are top-notch! Find lyrics videos.
@@jessicasopranonotes And if you'd like to go to the very beginning of Epica, check something from their 2004 live TV studio session. Simone was just 19 and she used to sing differently back then! Allegedly one of her early vocal coaches told her she was a mezzo, so she tried to sing like a mezzo. For you as a professional opera singer, it may sound odd and even Simone says she can't listen to her voice from that early era, but lots of fans, including myself, are totally in love with that voice because it was unique! Maybe "wrong" but beautiful, very warm and ethereal. Simone has improved over years, spent a lot of time with training, but that young Simone's voice was simply special. I never loved any other soprano that much. Combined with the incredible musical compositions of Epica, it's what makes this band stand out.
If you'd like to hear 19 y.o. Simone, search up "Cry For the Moon 4k". Make sure it's a new remastered 4K or at least HD video! Not the old 240p video with distorted sound! They also covered "Memory" from musical Cats (again 4K version). If you want something acoustic, just Simone, choir and piano, try "Feint (acoustic) 4K".
Thanks mom for your reaction for my all time fav band Epica, i really enjoy when you explain her voice 👍🏻👍🏻
But if you wanna hear epic operatic voice you should try to hear "Dianne van Giersbergen" from xandria
Please check those song :
Xandria : call of destiny
Xandria : Voyage of the fallen
Sorry for my bad English, I'm from Indonesia 😁
I believe that harsh vocals are achieved by pushing air through the vestibular folds and making everything vibrate in there....Vocal chords actually do not come together, they stay open.. But im not entirely sure. You need great support and tons of breath control though. As for teaching it, Angela Gossow (ex Arch Enemy singer) would be my go to.
I've seen you do a couple of symphonic mettle tracks now and I've loved your reaction. I would love to see you react to some Pythia if you will? Thank you
Nice reaction ! Also 2 also good songs for them to react are "Storm the Sorrow", and "Kingdom of Heaven".
13:28 Simone definitely leads with vibrato and finishes long straight toned with just a grace flourish like Floor near the end to show her total control and add emotion.
I loved your analysis, keep EPICA coming!
Suggestion:
- Unleashed (Retrospect live)
- Chasing the Dragon (Retrospect live)
- Design your Universe (Retrospect live)
- Unchain Utopía (Omega Alive)
- Kingdom of Heaven part 3 (Omega Alive)
There are different ways to learn harsh vocals as there are different styles. One of the common ones is called false cord scream and it is not as difficult to learn basics of it - not to master it, mind you. It still needs a robust breath support.
Here is an introduction to it by Marcela Bovio from MaYaN (among other projects; Ayreon would be another one): Interview with Marcela Bovio at FemME 2016
And another one by vocalist Linzey Rae: Screaming Vocal Tutorial With Mom
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Please diana ankudinova is now 18 and she sang can't help falling in love with you by Elvis its amazing
Here's an all female english singing Japanese Power Metal band that gives a whole new meaning to woman power with 2 lead guitarists one that also is a concert pianist that has played since age 3 and a double bass phenom that beats the drums like they stole her boyfriend led by an R&B Singer who learned to sing metal. since 2016 they have 3 albums 4 EP's and 4 Live albums with a greatest hits soon to be released in 2018 they won the Metal Hammer Golden God award for best new metal band. Meet Lovebites and their amazing Guitarist/pianist Miyako in her composition of Swan song which she leads into with a solo of Chopin on the Piano. Lovebites Swan Song with Chopin Intro th-cam.com/video/WBhtqgiXEA4/w-d-xo.html
Very much looking forward to this reaction. But as @watchtheskies says there are maybe better introductions...
My fav female-frontee power metal band right now is Unleash The Archers. Usually the singers are doing a part of a character in the story, so they are singing different 'voices' like what you noticed here too
This is growling, and yeah, it IS the sound from depth, recquire lots of control as I know. To make you more curious about it, I will tell you, that there are some female vocalists, who can do it too. Ie Floor Jansen in song "Yours is an empty hope". You can hear beautiful growl by Alyssa White Gluz in Kamelot's "Liar Liar" right next to her astounding clear vocals.
Awesome reaction! 2 completely different voices, sounding so good together.
Speaking contrasts: you should look into Jinjer, Pisces, Live sessions. Don’t research it, just go head on 😁!
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More Simone?
Have a look at the official videos of the album Transitus by Ayreon. Or the live concert The electric castle live and other tales by Ayreon.
Symphonic Metal baby!!!
So you are intrigued what this growling and screaming is all about, huh. I like this direction.
Maybe vocalists who do both "clean" singing and harsh vocals would be interesting for you to listen to.
First, Floor Jansen does some on the song 'Yours is an Empty Hope'.
Probably unavoidable are:
Tatiana Shmailyuk of Jinjer (I recommend 'Perennial live at Wacken')
and Courtney LaPlante of Spiritbox (good start would be 'Spiritbox - Rule of Nines - Courtney LaPlante live one take performance' ("for singin' and then some screamin' and then some singin' and more screamin' "...it's a meme by now)
Oh, also on the topic of harsh vocals, right now someone will murder me if I don't mention Will Ramos of Lorna Shore. He uploaded a one take performance of "To the Hellfire" which is good.
Jari Mäenpää ( Wintersun ), Tomi Joutsen ( Amorphis )
Mozart would have loved this. This is exactly what he was going for in Don Giovanni and The Magic Flute .. demonic and despairing messages in lovely tones.
And absolutely hypnotic audience engagement.
Symphonic metal is a direct descendant of baroque furiosa and arguably a more direct descendant of the German works than modern opera is.
Oh yes Mozart would have been on a stage like like this playing lead guitar if he lived today;)
A beautiful woman with beautiful voice sings a beautiful song with beautiful band and beautiful croud... It's a hi pleasure! The life is beautiful!
Do EPICA-"Kingdom of Heaven Part 3." Great, great, great!
my favorite epica song is Cry for the Moon:. the version of 16 years ago with orchestra. Simone had a lower more mezzo voice then. Continues melody line.
But I like their new work as well. For instance Storm the Sorrow: about overcoming mysophobia, fear of contamination. She got this fobia after really catching a dangeroys bacteria and getting very sick. And in latin america fans try to touch her and she was accused of beeing arrogant but the song explains she actually had this issue for a while.
There are (too) many great Epica to suggest, however their magnum opus is without doubt "Kingdom of Heaven part 3" th-cam.com/video/BdBCVMD8TiM/w-d-xo.html
The harsh vocals in Epica are done by Mark Jansen who is also the founder of Epica. It is worthwhile also checking Mark's side project called "MaYaN". MaYaN 's style is labelled as Symphinic Death Metal and it is even heavier than Epica, but sill very symphonic. One grea live video from them is "Rebirth from Despair" featuring no less than 5 vocalists including 2 female sopranos one of which also being a professional opera singer. th-cam.com/video/u5TQqUD74OE/w-d-xo.html
The last one is more symphonic than their previous ones, in my opinion. They gravitated more towards the death metal side of things.
the singer / Guitarist is Mark Jansen he founded Epica in 2002 after his departure from After Forever ( the band Floor was in too , you should listen to them you get to hear mark and floor in stead of simone and mark ) if you like this you should listen to other great Dutch bands in the same era like with in temptation with the pixy queen songs mother earth or snow queen or the gathering, ( Ayreon. you already did :P ) you should move to Europe and find a metal band that matches your voice and style. I know you would sound great with a rock band backing you on stage . cool alternative rock has bin coming from Europe for years now :) And life is a lot better across the pond . less rent more vacation days and free time to perfect your dreams
the next song absolutely must be design your univers or unleashed , both of them live retrospective
EPICA is beautiful Metal
I adore..U...U R stunning ...😊
If you want to see mastery of the growlin technique in session and live, react to Jinjer and his song "Pisces". you will like it
I believe the song is about the defeat and destruction of the Mayan empire.
Hi Jess something is not right with the video, it is playing considerably slower than it should, and it's pitched down, it sounds very strange?
I'm wondering if it might be a bit-rate missmatch between the youtube video and the settings in your video editing software or something like that?
There is an opera singer named Charly Calotta from New York who also has a reaction channel (Big Brain Singer), and who got interested in guttural singing after seeing Floor Jansen doing it. Maybe contact him, you two share some common interest. Doing it properly uses only the false vocal cords with clean/melodic vocal techniques. Doing it wrong ruins your vocal cords.
I'm a sucker for contrasts. The brutal voice with the operatic voice makes the music come so alive. And can we say that Simone is the most beautiful mic stand on earth? lol
Yes lol, also one of the most charismatic!