Would Katakuri Join The Cross Guild? - Larry & Seb Get HEATED On This One!

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  • During Episode 131, Sebastian & Terrell speak about Katakuri joining Buggy's Cross Guild regime. Larry and Lawrence takes a firm stance against that idea indicating that Conqueror's Haki users do not join under someone else's organization or jolly roger unless the leader is a Conqueror's Haki user themself. Which side do you stand on in this debate?
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  • @ThatOnePieceTalk
    @ThatOnePieceTalk  ปีที่แล้ว +7

    ✨ 𝗚𝗼 𝘁𝗼 𝗵𝘁𝘁𝗽://𝗯𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗵𝗲𝗹𝗽.𝗰𝗼𝗺/𝗧𝗢𝗣𝗧 𝘁𝗼 𝗴𝗲𝘁 𝟭𝟬% 𝗼𝗳𝗳 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗳𝗶𝗿𝘀𝘁 𝗺𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗵!

    • @LokiFrom219
      @LokiFrom219 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lots of speculation without proof

  • @cole_strange
    @cole_strange ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Crocodile and mihawk do not see themselves as buggy pirates, they dont see themselves as serving as under buggy. They literally said they were using them as figure head, they would never serve under him, theyre just taking advantage of the situation that was given to them.

    • @evileyevalaus
      @evileyevalaus ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They don't see themselves as buggy pirates that's correct but they literally are cross guild is literally buggy crew with a new name

    • @ryanpanda7563
      @ryanpanda7563 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      But that ain't serving under buggy....its just public perception ​@@evileyevalaus

    • @marcomarin1196
      @marcomarin1196 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@evileyevalaus It's not his crew it's an organization combining 3 different parties together (2 crews and Mihawk)

    • @Lexxsy
      @Lexxsy ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@evileyevalaus they're an alliance. That's like saying when Law was allied with Luffy, that Law is under Luffy or vice versa. Doesn't make any sense

    • @cole_strange
      @cole_strange 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@evileyevalaus i can agree w that, yeah its probably more of an alliance

  • @Brian0033
    @Brian0033 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I don't think he'd join cross guild, i think he'd be more likely to go to Luffy for help. But, if he and cross guild happened to both be attacking the same Blackbeard alligned island at the same time i think they'd work together.

    • @evileyevalaus
      @evileyevalaus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Facts Kat wouldn't go out of his way to fight with cross guild but like you said if they there at the same time that's when he would accept they help

  • @DRaikageDes
    @DRaikageDes ปีที่แล้ว +69

    They cooking Larry first 6 minutes won't lie , hopefully he makes a comeback

    • @ThatOnePieceTalk
      @ThatOnePieceTalk  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Finish the vid, fam.

    • @adrianvillegas6700
      @adrianvillegas6700 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThatOnePieceTalkLARRY ON SMOOOOOKE 😭❤️

    • @alexguyson129
      @alexguyson129 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@ThatOnePieceTalkLarry did in fact not make a comeback

    • @DRaikageDes
      @DRaikageDes ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ThatOnePieceTalk I knew you would make the comeback my boy. 🙌🏼

    • @Rossy890
      @Rossy890 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I’m going have to call Larry one on one. To say katakuri wouldn’t join the cross guild doesn’t make sense. The cross guild is not a PIRATE CREW it’s an alliance that got figure head by buggy. To say someone who loves their family wouldn’t have an alliance/join to save their family is crazy. Did luffy touch down on marineford by hisself? Make it make sense and Larry likes to say we proven, we said my brother YOU said😂🤣🤣. Larry makes small little changes yo your words to make his argument absolute. “You said they aren’t strong” no “strong enough”. Kid and law teamed up to beat big mom kid is a conqueror in your argument he should of never aligned with law and luffy in an alliance to win. Let alone let law tell him what to do in the fight it shouldn’t happen. We gotta stop having amnesia to certain stuff now if Larry is saying if HE was katakuri he wouldn’t join I feel him.

  • @emannuelsepulveda7259
    @emannuelsepulveda7259 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Is it possible for Larry to be wrong? Like does he think it’s possible for him to EVER be wrong? Even in a 3v1 Larry will NEVER just say “oh y’all got that I’m wrong on this one.”

    • @markherron4249
      @markherron4249 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea he’s the confidently incorrect person about, the times where he digs his heels into me most clearly won’t take and just starts acting like a baby until everyone else just get fed up with him and move on are always the worst parts of theyre show

  • @basedpetrolhead
    @basedpetrolhead ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Guild: an association of people for mutual aid or the pursuit of a common goal.
    Crocodile and Mihawk are just collaborating with Buggy. Katakuri would collaborate with them if needed.

  • @extremeconquerors729
    @extremeconquerors729 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Didn’t Doflamingo work directly under Kaido to supply the smile fruit???? Wasn’t doflamingo worried asf when Law told him that once the smile fruit factory is destroyed that Kaido would be pissed at Doffy and might do something about it. Doffy was under Kaido protection through business and both are conquerors. Larry I just voided your entire argument. Thank you good day sir

    • @UltraBlue164
      @UltraBlue164 ปีที่แล้ว

      No you didn’t lmaoo. Kaido is a conqueror, his whole point is conquerors will only work under other conquerors. I disagree with Larry here but your just stupid

    • @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
      @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doffy doesn't have Conquers Coating otherwise he would've successfully killed or captured Luffy in Dressrosa, so Larry is still right about his stances on Conquers Coating.

    • @blackboybebop7319
      @blackboybebop7319 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr no you just moved the goal post. this was abt simply having conquerors haki. not abt conquerors coating

    • @TheDistantWave
      @TheDistantWave 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Better point is Sengoku and Garp.

  • @Lexxsy
    @Lexxsy ปีที่แล้ว +41

    What is bro talking about? They were gonna kill Buggy, he coincidentally was branded as the boss of Cross Guild. Mihawk and Crocodile saw that and decided it was more convenient for Buggy to be the face of their organisation.. they didn’t “need Buggy” at all, Buggy’s there to pay his debt off to Crocodile, he owes him.

    • @devinb3538
      @devinb3538 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the point he was making was that both Crocodile and Mihawk decided to technically be under him even though they're pretty much the bosses. That's smart of them to do but just from what we know about conquerors users they would have too much pride to do something like that.

    • @alexguyson129
      @alexguyson129 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@devinb3538they aren’t under him tho he’s a figure head from the outside yeah that’s what it looks like but we know the inside information 😂so if we know it doesn’t matter what it “looks” like we know what it is and we know it’s croc and mihawk running the show the only thing is buggy has the extreme influence with his own men which most yonkos have

    • @devinb3538
      @devinb3538 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexguyson129 but they're allowing that perception of them being under Buggy to occur, at the end of the day it's very convenient for Crocodile and Mihawk to have Buggy as the figurehead but when it come to the question of would a conquerors user allow that perception of being under a non conquerors user to happen I highly doubt Katakuri would agree to be under Cross Guild even if it was for convenience

    • @alexguyson129
      @alexguyson129 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@devinb3538 I’m not saying he’d join I didn’t say that I just responded to that guy saying otherwise the og comment didn’t say Kat would join either

    • @devinb3538
      @devinb3538 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexguyson129 oh ok, but to me even if you're making someone a figurehead you're still allowing that person to be above you even though it's on the surface level

  • @Greenlazo
    @Greenlazo ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fuckin love Sebastian dudes funny af and unphased by all the anger at that table 😂

  • @tlungu962
    @tlungu962 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Cross Guild is an organization NOT a pirate crew. It consists of Mihawk + Crocodile/Mr. 1 + Yonko Buggy & the buggy pirates.
    Cross Guild is not the Buggy Pirates. Buggy is just a founding member.

    • @turnwaiter
      @turnwaiter ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah they're just a group of dudes with common interest. Cross guild falls apart the second those interests don't align. Cross guild feels more like a plot device to keep the marines busy or something, idk

    • @moortadabeshir7765
      @moortadabeshir7765 ปีที่แล้ว

      But buggy is not only seen as the figure head externally but internally as well. Buggy didn’t purposely make the cross guild poster have him as the figure head, his henchmen did that because they saw him as the figure head. Cross guild is just the buggy pirates but instead of pirate mercenaries it’s bounty’s on marines.

  • @patflann29
    @patflann29 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Garp and Sengoku are Conqueror’s who don’t fit the mold Larry describes. They willingly serve the WG and they don’t do so because of respect for fellow Conqueror Imu who they don’t know exists, they do it because they believe it is the best way for them to achieve their goals. Mihawk is doing the same.

    • @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
      @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sengoku never showed feats of Conquers Coating in the Paramount War hence why he's permanently retired from the Marines.

  • @cameronboop1044
    @cameronboop1044 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Larry keeping the impression that mihawk doesn’t have acoc is crazy. He’s shanks rival 🧍‍♂️

  • @looqmaanvania2211
    @looqmaanvania2211 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    No way on earth people don't think Mihawk is not a conquerors Haki user, while Zoro and Shanks(his rival) are users.

    • @Leeacademy2024
      @Leeacademy2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. I believe shanks is stronger than mihawk but there is no way in hell that mihawk dosent gave aCoc. I also have mihawk having the the best observation haki in the verse. The whole argument of conq not following someone without conq kinda makes sense but I guess buggy is a weird scenario mihawk isn't actually following him but technically in the eyes of the world he is so I don't know lol.

    • @Arvintures28
      @Arvintures28 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not unless oda said so or confirmed by a manga chapter then no. he is not a conquerer's haki user.

    • @fullydiminished
      @fullydiminished ปีที่แล้ว

      Well there’s several reasons why people won’t call Mihawk a conqueror yet.
      A. Not confirmed
      B. We only know Mihawk is superior with his sword. Not every sword attack requires conqueror’s to be strong
      C. You can be someone’s rival while specializing in something else. Shanks could be the conq specialist, while Mihawk is the sword specialist
      D. Unless we see a flashback of Mihawk and Shanks splitting the sky, or we see Mihawk and Zoro split the sky in the future, then that’s also a lack of feat.
      I think if I were to bet - Mihawk is likely a conqueror. It would make sense. But it’s in no way confirmed, and the arguments made in this video are quite compelling. There is NO subordinate conqueror, unless they are subordinate to a superior conqueror. That’s great evidence.
      If Mihawk is under Buggy (even just as a figurehead), then either Buggy is a stronger conqueror, OR Mihawk isn’t a conqueror. It’s a solid argument.

    • @looqmaanvania2211
      @looqmaanvania2211 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fullydiminished Fair point, except He is the "Worlds strongest swordsman" all the other characters with strongest in the title have it and it also means he stands above all swordsman.
      Secondly Zoro already has it so it wouldnt make sense if he doesn't.
      Thirdly Whitebeard called the duels between shanks and Mihawk legendary and said it was known throughout the new world. With shanks being a master of haki it would be weird if Mihawk didn't have it at all

    • @Arvintures28
      @Arvintures28 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@silentnightfall-iv4dn and they confirmed it. So yeah. Mihawk still doesn't have CH at least not until it is confirmed. So you can't use that in an argument.

  • @jackaljacka
    @jackaljacka ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Katakuri would join for a sibling and stay because he has honor he might hate it but he would stay especially if that sibling was pudding or brulee since they are his favorites

    • @danieloyeleye3257
      @danieloyeleye3257 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, I don't see him joining Cross Guild and leaving the Big Mom pirates to get Pudding back because it would put his family in even more danger, he would have to leave the Big Mom pirates in Smoothie's hands' and she hasn't done anything to show that they would be safe with him gone.
      He could also just go with Daifuku, Oven and a few commanders to get her back.
      He can make deals with Cross Guild tho like form an alliance (not necessarily his thing but he'd do it to protect his family).

  • @kobil316SH
    @kobil316SH ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thinking Mihawk doesn't have conquerors is the most psychotic thing he might have said

  • @volktol4432
    @volktol4432 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    17:05 the Boa point still plays into Larry’s point. Boa didn’t care and would have fought the marines, she only stayed a warlord to keep her people safe, and even then she had to be convinced

  • @GABRIEL-0702
    @GABRIEL-0702 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Y'all keep forgetting that Katakuri is literally the One Piece version of Dominic Toretto. 😂😂😂
    & what did Dom do in One Of the movies, he gave into the That 1 chick's order.

  • @SPACECOWBOY705
    @SPACECOWBOY705 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Imma need WAAY more clips like this from the podcast on the channel... Long overdue

  • @mylesjude233
    @mylesjude233 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What about Yamato, she has conqueors but is subordinate to Momonosuke and the Scabbards.

    • @HarrisonAndrew-yq8zc
      @HarrisonAndrew-yq8zc ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude Yamato situation is so different from katakuri

    • @ElectBeef
      @ElectBeef ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@HarrisonAndrew-yq8zcshe still not the leader

  • @JohtoBurglar
    @JohtoBurglar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “Just bc they’re stronger than Buggy doesn’t mean they’re under Buggy” Larry’s whole take here was mud 5:55

  • @korinokami761
    @korinokami761 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:35 “you need to stop with the storyline” he gotta stop pointing out how oda the creator made the character so we can use your head canon version?

  • @Blaisesoldier
    @Blaisesoldier ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The amount time the goal post gets moved this convo is wild 😂😂

  • @mylesweathers7493
    @mylesweathers7493 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude said crossguild wasn’t a business situation 😂😭😭 omg

  • @Patrick-ng1vg
    @Patrick-ng1vg ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love that Oda made Buggy a Yonko. It messes with so much but it's soooo funny.

  • @isaacsanta1503
    @isaacsanta1503 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    1st, Rock D Xebec crew was build by Conquerer.
    2nd, Zorro is a conquerer but what make him a conquerer is the needs to be the stronger swordsman to protect his captain. And he became a conqerer when he survive and endure Luffy's pain at the end of Thriller Bark Arc.

    • @gaeron1305
      @gaeron1305 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the nature of his dream necessitates him being a coc.

  • @Hawkeye1111
    @Hawkeye1111 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I actually can’t wait to see how all these guys react when they see mihawk actually stronger than shanks and his true power lmao

    • @joemoe650
      @joemoe650 ปีที่แล้ว

      :|

    • @AhmedHajjaj-yh6ii
      @AhmedHajjaj-yh6ii ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They gotta put on clown costumes when we see what mihawk can do, I hope they don't brush it off they built this up so much it'd be so funny to see them admit theyr wrong

  • @ianodhiambo1
    @ianodhiambo1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sebb was cooking a 5 star gourmet meal. Larry & Law were burning the steak.

  • @TheBlackElmo1
    @TheBlackElmo1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Only been a fan for about 2 months, catching up on old vids and convos and Larry irks my nerves. His takes and responses are so defensive and head strong to a point where it seems like he believes he can not be wrong.

  • @CountryTortoise
    @CountryTortoise ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:09 croc and Mihawk arent buggy pirates, theyre cross guild commanders. Still under Buggy in the eyes of the WG

  • @Theflamehasira35
    @Theflamehasira35 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    People gotta realize cross guild is one of those things that they only formed together due to the circumstances each pirate is under currently honestly I could see a situation where katakuri would work with them but joining full time idk 😭🤣

  • @Babyface7216
    @Babyface7216 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    If you put Luffy in a situation where his friends are in danger, even as a conqueror, he would tap dance naked in front of the cross guild if it meant it would help save them. Katakuri strikes me as someone with the same kind of heart and intentions.

    • @Khaled68335
      @Khaled68335 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, Katakuri is portrayed to be luffy 2.0

    • @devinb3538
      @devinb3538 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luffy would beg for help but he wouldn't agree to be under anyone

    • @faithesara6622
      @faithesara6622 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly

  • @corpular700
    @corpular700 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    According to Larry Mihawk is under Buggy who is not a Conqueror
    His own logic destroys his argument

  • @maxeome
    @maxeome ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Red sweatshirt is wilding 😂

  • @braidinhall639
    @braidinhall639 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Larry never wanna lose a debate. You lost bro 😂😂

  • @bankin3119
    @bankin3119 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I felt Sebastian’s pain 😂😂😂 and I’m usually not on his side … zoro is a conqueror…imagine how wild it would be if his goal (mihawk) wasn’t 😂😂😂

  • @abhishekabhoykumar2062
    @abhishekabhoykumar2062 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's more likely for kat to join Luffy than ever join cross guild firstly because he doesn't respect them secondly because the entire purpose of cross guild being a "business " or going for the one piece the likelihood of them going after Blackbeard is like stepping on there own toes, making kat even less likely to even approach them why would he ever chose cross guild when he has true respect for Luffy and knows Sanji cares about pudding he is more likely to be accepted there.

  • @Menoblaster
    @Menoblaster ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I don’t think Kat would join the cross guild but are we really saying Mihawk doesn’t have conquerors? These agendas are getting out of hand lol

    • @tlungu962
      @tlungu962 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      agenda piece is ruining One Piece discord online lol

    • @Brian0033
      @Brian0033 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imma be honest, i don't think he does. Mihawk doesn't have a driving ambition anymore, he's kinda gotten where he wants to be and is just kind of sitting there. What would really be cool is if Mihawk *had* conquerer's haki while he was chasing his dream and then it slowly withered once he got it. And we can maybe see it wake up again while fighting Zoro, his passions getting ignited again.

    • @sethsherr2793
      @sethsherr2793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Brian0033SSO HE DIDNT HAVE AMBITION TO BE THE STRONGEST SWORDSMAN BECAME THE STRONGEST SWIRDSMAN AND LOST CONQUERS OKAY

    • @sethpermenter6575
      @sethpermenter6575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Brian0033 peak

  • @rodneydorsey7361
    @rodneydorsey7361 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Boa became a warlord to protect her people. Doffy blackmail the world gov. Doffy was doing them a favor by being quiet.

  • @EonKarlQuit
    @EonKarlQuit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Larry is bugging, his whole argument is based on the wrong conclusion that Buggy is the captain of Cross Guild
    which only stems from his bias
    while he hasn't shown it, it is as delirious to think Mihwak is not a conquerer as some argued Garp is not a conquerer

  • @Kekkersboy
    @Kekkersboy ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Katakuri would do anything for family. Thsts his conquerors spirit. Working for someone else wouldn't do anything to tarnish that

  • @BlackStar-gv1wl
    @BlackStar-gv1wl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Larry is actually crazy asf. “Conquerers wouldn’t do that” mihawk never bent the knee Larry tryna act mihawk isn’t a conqueror is just ignorance…

  • @kriscontents3248
    @kriscontents3248 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Larry dude, last time I check Oda was the creator of One Piece..katakuri is joining cross guild because of family matters..being a conquerors or not he's joining

  • @CountryTortoise
    @CountryTortoise ปีที่แล้ว

    They definitely arguing about pride. Cross Guild's whole existence is predicated off of business 😂

  • @LuciidDreamz
    @LuciidDreamz ปีที่แล้ว

    Crocodile and Mihawk CLEARLY stated that Buggy is just a figurehead. You gotta stop the copium

  • @devinb3538
    @devinb3538 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Crocodile and Mihawk are obviously allowing Buggy to be the figurehead for Cross Guild but them allowing it to happen speaks a lot about their character. Just from what we know about conquerors haki users they're too prideful to allow someone they don't respect to be above them, even if it's just for show. Katakuri at most would ask for help but if it comes to joining them I doubt that's going to happen.

    • @pranavk281
      @pranavk281 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We just examples which mean most likely they would do so. Oda hasn’t said it’s a rule. It’s not something like the power system which has specifically been said it works like that

  • @kingpinamv7545
    @kingpinamv7545 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    cross guild is the same as rocks. they are not a crew they just work together. Kat could join and then just leave after. I agree he most likely wouldn't but under the right circumstances it is possible. also thinkin Mihawk dosen't have conquerors haki is kinda wild cuz that would mean zoro has a huge advantage on him.

    • @nsalieister3334
      @nsalieister3334 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like... did we forget alliances exists?
      If kat just says I wanna join he obviously wont have a say in anything that happens, BUT if he threatens "either work with us or we will fight you and take over your operation" that nay also lead to Cross Guild considering taking the less violent option that doesnt end with all their crew dead and island destroyed even if they win

  • @TheSwagmasterJay
    @TheSwagmasterJay 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cross guild isn’t a crew it’s an organization. And buggy isnt captain he’s president (by mistake). The buggy pirates are apart of it. Essentially its an alliance

  • @sonyyung5510
    @sonyyung5510 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean because of the Big Mom pirates underworld connections, they might cut a deal with crocodile and buggy so help save pudding; but yeah no Katakuri would never serve under cross guild. They could make a deal to where cross guild helps them get pudding back, they give them a red poneglyph rubbing. Other than that I dont see them working together.

  • @KrucialKenn-
    @KrucialKenn- ปีที่แล้ว

    ✊🏾😂❤️‍🔥 love you guys and the way you make each other smile 😄💫💯

  • @bankin3119
    @bankin3119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So…about conquerors only following conquerors…by Larry’s argument every marine that sengoku and garp took orders from had conqueror’s haki too?😂😂😂

  • @adelg8
    @adelg8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just saw the Cross Guild episode. And no! Mihawk and Crocodile are not under Buggy. And they did not go to Buggy for help. Buggy was never supposed to be the head of the cross guild. After the poster was distributed is when Hawkeye says he didn't want the trouble of being an Emperor, and Crorodile sees the benefit of having Buggy as a figure head. They are not subordinates of Buggy. I agree with Larry in a lot of things. But he was wrong on saying that Croco and Hawkeye were under Buggy.

  • @jeperkin90
    @jeperkin90 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait until Mihawk buss out that Conquerors, this whole argument gon be null and void.

  • @kingdrewski9507
    @kingdrewski9507 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zoro is under luffy conqueror
    Ace is under white beard conqueror
    So I’m really lost with Larry’s point?

    • @ThatOnePieceTalk
      @ThatOnePieceTalk  ปีที่แล้ว

      Conquerors only follow Conquerors.

    • @samuraitadpole5459
      @samuraitadpole5459 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@ThatOnePieceTalkmihawk has conquer haki, Rayleigh still has it yet he was under someone and he's retired unlike mihawk

  • @OzweegoEm0
    @OzweegoEm0 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:24 ace showed conquerors as a kid and he eventually joined white beard

  • @CloudyDaze
    @CloudyDaze 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine the chapter comes out and Buggy reveals to awaken his Conqueror's Haki.

  • @Ayo_Zel
    @Ayo_Zel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Raleigh is retired and he still helps out luffy lol. Luffy helped alot of ppl on Dressrosa. I'm sure most of them would help out if he asked. Pointy head gramps too 😂

  • @drewski8949
    @drewski8949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very rare bad take from Larry….cross guild is not the buggy pirates! 😂

  • @TITAN_sama
    @TITAN_sama 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if the situation calls for it ,Kat would ally with cross guild (Big mom pirates x Cross guild), but not serve under them and would rather work with them like kaido and lin did in wano (common interests) but what happens after rescuing pudding is a different question
    edit: i get what seb is saying, its not like kat is gonna be taking orders from anyone if he joined cross guild for 1 mission. But on the other hand , Buggys face is the head of cross guild, the world getting wind of a big mom pirate commander working with cross guild(serving under em) after the defeat of big mom ,it would stain Lin's name and Kat wouldnt allow that and also considering the fact that hes a conqueror ,that team up would be iffy

  • @dennisthemenace855
    @dennisthemenace855 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bald head dude head cannon is off the charts . How can you b wrong and strong lmaoooo

  • @FTL_SAN
    @FTL_SAN ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Chapter 1082 page 6, there is no Jolly Roger on the boat. Mihawk is using buggy as a figure head because he doesn’t want to deal with the spotlight. 1058 page 14. The life of yonko are getting crazy right now. People are challenging them, a war broke out with one already. And mihawk just wants a quiet life. And we know conquerors can have a quiet life because Rayleigh and whitebeard. Whitebeard sat back and let oden get packed. Rayleigh has been chilling on sabaody. And mihawk has nothing to prove. The page prior says superior skill to red haired. And STRONGEST swordsman (in the official). His portrayal is that he sits at the top. Buggy wouldn’t be the figurehead if mihawk didn’t want him to. Just like how luffy STAYED HIDDEN AND DISGUISED DURING THE GLADIATOR TOURNAMENT IN DRESSROSSA BECAUSE FRANKY SAID SO. Conquerors haki users aren’t attention seeking. They just do what they want. You can’t conflate the two. And what would you suggest mihawk do, tell buggy to spread new flyers, and have the government correct the yonko status? That seems a bit round about if he doesn’t want the attention in the first place. Oh and it’s a GUILD not a crew.

    • @askaboutme8293
      @askaboutme8293 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You cooked brother

    • @FTL_SAN
      @FTL_SAN ปีที่แล้ว

      @@askaboutme8293 thank you 🫡

  • @michaelhunter7429
    @michaelhunter7429 ปีที่แล้ว

    “I’m the leader” speaks pridefulness if the conquer isn’t willing to ask or succumb to help.

  • @mackharris5636
    @mackharris5636 ปีที่แล้ว

    Larry back pedaling like crazy

  • @billzbez6019
    @billzbez6019 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im waiting for the "if you disagree you don't know one piece"

  • @thugnicious
    @thugnicious หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fact that Doflamingo is under Kaido breaks Larry's argument. He can argue all he wants but being under Kaido makes you apart of his crew, in the very least under the Beast Pirates banner.

  • @McGerski
    @McGerski ปีที่แล้ว

    True, we haven’t seen a conqueror follow a non-conqueror, Given we’re in the end game, that’s the gag, for Buggy to make an impact or stay relevant to the current yonkos is through the addition of conquerors on Cross Guild.

  • @PhazeGod
    @PhazeGod ปีที่แล้ว

    Saying the Cross Guild is the Buggy Pirates is complete Head Cannon.

  • @theophilusmsiza2878
    @theophilusmsiza2878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😂Larry lost the plot with the cross guild argument

  • @JudasGoats
    @JudasGoats ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it entirely depends on if big mom is alive or not. Is she is than no. If not I could see kat taking control and forming a coalition with them to protect his family. Which would end up giving buggy big moms area in the new world. Since technically luffy has kaidos land.

  • @meekdolla4883
    @meekdolla4883 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Come on Larry they are not buggy’s crew they are cross guild pirates 6:32

  • @Borsalino_538
    @Borsalino_538 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes you're right for example Usopp and luffy when he was like luffy i'm the captain blah blah and did luffy accept that? No🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @TheDistantWave
    @TheDistantWave 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The conqueror point isn’t true on not being willing to follow under someone who isn’t a conqueror when you consider the fact Sengoku and Garp are Marines.

  • @kakarotkills7
    @kakarotkills7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Larry literally proved their point 5mins in😂 5:50 😂😂😂

  • @meekdolla4883
    @meekdolla4883 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if mihawk has conqueror haki we all know he doesn’t want to be yonko

  • @Greenlazo
    @Greenlazo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude aokiji went and made light work of whole cake island. Ain’t no way the big mom pirates are winning that fight especially since they don’t play fair.

  • @mylesjude233
    @mylesjude233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about Ace, he had conqueror's haki yet he is under Whitebeard

  • @umbralowl
    @umbralowl ปีที่แล้ว

    Buggy is not the Captain of Cross Guild. Mihawk and Crocodile do not see themselves as under Buggy. Buggy is literally a Figurehead that if he gets captured he gets more jailtime than Mihawk and Crocodile. Buggy was literally crying and apologizing to both of them when Buggy was announced as the Yonko

  • @dabigdilf
    @dabigdilf ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro in the red just chatting 😭😭

  • @jmcknight4026
    @jmcknight4026 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be great to hear you guys chat about who the Cross Guild could add to their crew to make them the top crew in One Piece.

  • @JustSaiyan317
    @JustSaiyan317 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like the difference between joining cross guild and creating an alliance with cross guild should have been made more clear. I agree that Katakuri wouldn’t join cross guild (regardless of the reason). However, I don’t think Katakuri would be against creating an alliance with them under the right circumstances. I believe Katakuri forming a temporary alliance to save someone would make a lot more sense, the same way his brother did with Marco in Wano for a short amount of time, but him outright joining the crew doesn’t make sense for his character. This is just my opinion though, Kat is an interesting character when compared to others, so it’s hard to say for sure what he’d actually do.

    • @JustSaiyan317
      @JustSaiyan317 ปีที่แล้ว

      BTW in regards to Cross Guild I’ve always seen them as a triumvirate. I guarantee you that Buggy, Mihawk, and Crocodile are viewed as the 3 leaders of the guild all on equal level by their subordinates. I imagine there’s a reason they’re a “guild” more than a “crew”. Buggy is the figurehead aka Emperor/Yonko because all 3 agree to it in public and private. There’s a reason why this works though, which directly relates to the personalities of the 3 heads. Fact is the only reason that cross guild works is because it’s honestly and literally a perfect situation for all 3 of them, which is really funny IMO. Mihawk wants to be left alone and unbothered unless it’s time to hunt, Crocodile has always preferred the shadows to the limelight of the world/public, and Buggy is Buggy 😂

  • @dretheblack
    @dretheblack ปีที่แล้ว

    Im ngl bro on the left was kinda spittin facts at 6:15, like croc and hawk THOUGHT buggy was a eazy lick and he used his INFLUENCE to weaponize them, plus he knows shanks is going for the opiece and he still pissed about the promise, they work for him now a little more then he works for them to me.

  • @satinderpal482
    @satinderpal482 ปีที่แล้ว

    Katakuri deciding whom to join to get pudding back in the mean time big mom came back with her prime figure to get back in the story to remind him she still alive to lead her crew in elbalf

  • @maliksaunders8358
    @maliksaunders8358 ปีที่แล้ว

    Garp the hero is a conqueror haki user that and he remained a vice admiral cause he couldn’t bother to deal with the responsibilities of leading and governing the Navy… so it’s safe to say you can have conquerors haki users that would be will not to be the face of their respective groups… so I do think katakuri would join the cross guild if it will help his cause! Because the cross guild is just an alliance it’s just that crocodile and mihawk doesn’t have a lot of crew members so they don’t make up the bulk of the alliance

  • @HappyMrMeal
    @HappyMrMeal ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still look at it that neither croc or Mihawk are under buggy. The cross guild is just all of em grouped together and the WG just made buggy out as the leader, so going from that then I’d say kata wouldn’t look at it as him being under anyone, he’d just be working with them is all. So yes I think he would join it if the need presented itself. King of the L’s wrong again 😂

    • @danieloyeleye3257
      @danieloyeleye3257 ปีที่แล้ว

      I understand Katakuri would join Cross Guild IF HE NEEDED TO but what situation would cause that?
      How likely is he to join and what would join even mean?
      Are they forming an alliance?
      Does he have to leave the Big Mom pirates?
      Is he working as a partner or is he working for someone?
      There are a lot of questions to answer.

    • @HappyMrMeal
      @HappyMrMeal ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danieloyeleye3257 depending on circumstance you could make an argument yes or no, but to say that he would never do it is just silly. If there was a reason for him to join cross guild I think he would do it 🤷🏻‍♂️ like I said I don’t see that as a pirate crew, but more of a pirate alliance. The WG were the ones to name buggy the leader not the actual pirates in the group.

  • @Shanked-em
    @Shanked-em ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And based on Mihawks behaviour he shouldn't be a Conquerer

  • @sD-fc9mp
    @sD-fc9mp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doflamingo is definitely joining the Cross Guilde

  • @CameronkAK
    @CameronkAK ปีที่แล้ว

    Mihawk is the Thanos of One Piece.
    He completes his goal, creates a black blade, then decides all he wants to do is rest and chill now that he's done what almost everyone else fails to do, yet the community will not let him rest.
    This logic that current Mihawk wanting to chill makes him no longer a conqueror is like believing that Raleigh should have lost his conquerors because he now just gambles and lives life on the down low.

    • @danielcollinson101
      @danielcollinson101 ปีที่แล้ว

      In all fairness Rayleigh is out there conquering as much pootie that isn't his wife's as he can, and the honeys all say "There's ACOC if I ever saw one!" So Larry is right confirmed I guess?

  • @sD-fc9mp
    @sD-fc9mp ปีที่แล้ว

    Cross Guilde is defined as a n Alliance not a monolith crew like others, i think that's what the Cross is about

  • @travisealy3512
    @travisealy3512 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t see it as joining under but I can see an alliance like the supernova had. Those are two separate things

  • @mascotlove7411
    @mascotlove7411 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bet 9x out of 10 katakuri would join the Strawhat a if it meant him saving his sisters

  • @danieloyeleye3257
    @danieloyeleye3257 ปีที่แล้ว

    "The Katakuri is a conqueror" point doesn't apply like Larry says it does.
    Conquerors can work or join for non conquerors if the need arises or it benefits their goals.

    • @Mal-go5dl
      @Mal-go5dl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Conquerors have the "disposition of a king", and one of the key characteristics of a king that Oda highlighted throughout the story is humility

  • @LordMizukage_
    @LordMizukage_ ปีที่แล้ว

    His argument about Buggy pirates was super silly, why would they be under the buggy pirates when the group is cross guild? And he can clearly see Crocodile and Mihawk showed Buggy what it is and that they simply allow him to continue his games

  • @slipperymofo3739
    @slipperymofo3739 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn't the fact that Mihawk is 99.99% likely to be a CoC user debunk their point?

  • @tomrod7589
    @tomrod7589 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @ 6:00 crocodile and mihawk are under buggy. FACTS

  • @levig3576
    @levig3576 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’d be interesting to see but why would he leave his family to join cross guild even if he wasn’t a conquers

  • @garpnewgate
    @garpnewgate ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A Conqueror not doing something doesn't mean that another one never would 😂 what kind of ignorance is that?
    Also, the anime very explicitly shows Chinjao standing next to Baby 5 and Boo a few feet away from Sai while Orlumbus is telling who the captains are. The manga also shows Don Chinjao celebrating on the boat in the background of chapter 800 (panel includes Robin in the foreground in case you want to look it up) 😂

  • @Swagster93789
    @Swagster93789 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never seen so much head cannon in my life

  • @GojiBD
    @GojiBD ปีที่แล้ว

    We haven’t got a conqueror under a conqueror? Zoro?

  • @ryukothesimp5034
    @ryukothesimp5034 ปีที่แล้ว

    Larry being bad faith again in an argument. "Mihawk and Crocodile came because they needed Buggy's name to protect them" No they didn't. That's a straight up lie. They were going to kill Buggy then Mihawk said "How about we let Buggy take the fall for everything we do?"I'm sorry but where did Mihawk NEED to come to Buggy for protection you bad faith liar?

  • @sohampanse5956
    @sohampanse5956 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Possibility of katakuri joining straw hats is more than him joining cross guild

  • @kwestionme5241
    @kwestionme5241 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's crazy bringing up oden and not seeing he followed Roger