No, witch hazel and latex are totally different. Witch hazel dissolves the seams to make them invisible. Latex is sometimes used to repair thick seams and for building up areas.
so you have to solidify it and the next day put it in the microwave to make it into a pourable liquid again? is it not possible to use it as soon as you prepare it?
+Nicole Polen Oh yes, corn Starch would work fine. The goal of using a powder is to keep the latex from sticking to it's self. Even a translucent powder would work. Even flower would work. :)
70% will also give you a slight pigment but 99% you get it's full potential, if you play with the illustrators pigments with different tones of the same colour using more or less isopropyl 99% is the only thing to use
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Hi Egg Head, can I substitute the sorbitol ? Or why you use it? Thank you :)
Sorbitol is used to make the prosthetic last longer in the open air. If you were to only use water and gelatin when creating a prosthetic, the prosthetic would dry out real quickly and dissolve quicker when exposed to any heat like the sun or hot movie lights or even a person's body temperature.
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Oh, I see, thats a very good reason. Thank you very much for the answer :).
So what sort of Prosthetic adhesive are you using for the gelatin to attach to the skin? Is it Pros-aide or spirit gum or a general remover that works for both? Can you use both Pros-aide or spirit gum with gelatin???
I do use pros-aide, Spirit gum is not very sticky for this type of use. I found a really nice make-up remover called: Cetaphil gentle make up remover. It works really well removing pros-aide.and is easy on the skin.
Can I use the witch Hazel for blending the edge of the Latex prostetics? and also for the prosaide+cabosil prostetics? or for Cap? or it works only for gelatin? thank. I follow u from Rome. Sorry for my english.
Hi Chiara, You can only blend gelatin with witch hazel. There is nothing safe to use to dissolve latex. Some people say to use acetone but that does not work it will only burn the person and can cause serious injury. You have to stipple over the latex seams or build it up to blend it into the skin and the same with prosaide+cabosil prosthetic. Some bald caps are made out of a plastic cap material and can be blended with tiny amounts of acetone or 100 proof alcohol. But latex will not blend that way. Don't believe anyone who says you can blend latex with acetone. They will only hurt the actor. My main recommendation is to make sure your prosthetic edges are very, very thin and irregular then you can do a light stipple over the edges if needed. That is the best way to make your edges blend into the skin. Thank you for posting. :)
Egg Head FX thank you too. I’m very glad for your answer, i watched all your videos in a single day and i Found Its very easy to understand and very fluent. I knew about acetone, i will not use, i swear 😄 have a good day. Bye
The adhesive is called Prosaide. You can purchase it in costume stores or on Amazon. www.amazon.com/s?k=prosaide+adhesive&pd_rd_r=d9a280e9-1d20-4254-9ce9-78da6d51a0e1&pd_rd_w=vGmxV&pd_rd_wg=2tOD2&pf_rd_p=7be70e42-b5c0-4077-873a-35a472a6fbd4&pf_rd_r=ZTX1VDG0M6J5T4J4TD5F&qid=1569972682&ref=sugsr_2
@@theph0enix24 it's the same thing. Glycerine is glycerine regardless but it can be sourced from animal products as well as vegetable products but the end product is identical
I don't know of any chemical that is safe to use on people. Latex is a rubber material. You can't dissolve rubber without using harsh chemicals that create a toxic fume that burns it away and both cannot be done without hurting someone "Don't Do It". The only way to clean up your edges on a latex piece is to build up the edges with more latex or prosaid and cabsil "cabopatch".
Egg Head FX Alright thanks. I really appreciate it.Because I just made some latex and ive been having problems shaping the edges. It's for a project at school. This was a life Savior. I've been using a manicane for now. This is real informative because I don't want to accidentally hurt someone.
Yes you could do a half face molds but it would need to be a two part mold to get good feathered edges. And Yes you can use other makeups like color wheels and cream makeup. But first test the makeups on a sample gelatin piece to make sure the colors looks natural and not un-natural on the skin.
You can keep your prosthetic in the fridge for several weeks and in the freezer could last several months. Remember it's made from food grade products. (not edible but made from some food products) So it will have a shelf life.
Hello, I have another question I hope u can help me :c I am doing a prosthetic "mask" and I wanted to use this technique but I dont know if this will help for a long time. Actor have to wear it for hours and I'll going to make it one week before. Is this going to melt? or something? And, can I glue it with látex? and about paint, can I use other kind, like creamy paintings? please help, thanks!
+diesehexe Many questions... First gelatin can melt. It's not the best material to use for prosthetics because it doesn't hold up well in heat or under hot lights. It is also not the most flexible for prosthetic it can be heavy depending on how thick the mask is. There is a material called, "Foam Gelatin" that might work. You will have to research it. Foam latex and silicone would be better choices. You cannot glue gelatin with latex. You need to use prosthetic adhesive. You should do a test makeup to see if it fits your needs. Good luck.
Yes you can. There are several recipes for gelatin prosthetics floating around the internet. They are all similar with small variations to the measurements. But all about the same. Thanks. :)
Hey Spoiled, glycerine keeps the gelatin appliance from drying out and makes it stronger. If you just use water you will have food grade jello which does not work at all for make up effects.
Hey! Im having trouble finding out which kind of witch hazel to use, I'll have to buy it online from a store in the EU but the prices and descriptions vary greatly. Is it destilled witch hazel? With alcohol or ethanol? I can't seem to find a straight answer anywhere. So i was hoping you could help me :)
+Nikita Austin Hi Nikita, The stuff I have is 86% witch hazel, there is no alcohol in it. It says on the bottle that it is used to relief symptoms from minor scratches and cuts.
+Nikita Austin I think its just water in what I have. You can do a test with what you have available. Do a little experiment see if it dissolves the edges on a thin piece of gelatin. If it works then you are good to go. :)
Most informative video on TH-cam regarding prosthetics. Thank you very much!
No, witch hazel and latex are totally different. Witch hazel dissolves the seams to make them invisible. Latex is sometimes used to repair thick seams and for building up areas.
I like your channel mate, Very thorough and lcear instruction. Very useful
so you have to solidify it and the next day put it in the microwave to make it into a pourable liquid again? is it not possible to use it as soon as you prepare it?
You're a star! Thanks for this and all the details. Super helpful
Your welcome. Thanks for visiting my channel. :)
My son is allergic to talc, would corn starch be an acceptable substitute for the baby powder?
+Nicole Polen Oh yes, corn Starch would work fine. The goal of using a powder is to keep the latex from sticking to it's self. Even a translucent powder would work. Even flower would work. :)
The models veins be poppin those are the most blue viens I've ever seen looks painted.
That makeup requires 90% or better, not 99%. I have and use the FX Illustrator kit with 91% alcohol and it works fine. Great video series.
Hey Brian, It is recommended by the alcohol makeup companies for best results to use 99% isopropyl alcohol.
Thanks,
Egghead FX (:
I have also. Thanks for the input. The companies recommend 99%.
70% will also give you a slight pigment but 99% you get it's full potential, if you play with the illustrators pigments with different tones of the same colour using more or less isopropyl 99% is the only thing to use
Hi Egg Head, can I substitute the sorbitol ? Or why you use it? Thank you :)
Sorbitol is used to make the prosthetic last longer in the open air. If you were to only use water and gelatin when creating a prosthetic, the prosthetic would dry out real quickly and dissolve quicker when exposed to any heat like the sun or hot movie lights or even a person's body temperature.
Oh, I see, thats a very good reason. Thank you very much for the answer :).
So what sort of Prosthetic adhesive are you using for the gelatin to attach to the skin? Is it Pros-aide or spirit gum or a general remover that works for both? Can you use both Pros-aide or spirit gum with gelatin???
I do use pros-aide, Spirit gum is not very sticky for this type of use. I found a really nice make-up remover called: Cetaphil gentle make up remover. It works really well removing pros-aide.and is easy on the skin.
Is there a special name for the 'bent' brush you use to apply the make-up or did you just bend a brush into the shape you wanted?
I bend my own or you can purchase bent brushes from Friends Beauty Supply.
www.frendsbeauty.com/bdellium-sfx-128-bent-liner-brush.html
Wonderful work! Thank you so much!
Can I use the witch Hazel for blending the edge of the Latex prostetics? and also for the prosaide+cabosil prostetics? or for Cap? or it works only for gelatin?
thank. I follow u from Rome. Sorry for my english.
Hi Chiara, You can only blend gelatin with witch hazel. There is nothing safe to use to dissolve latex. Some people say to use acetone but that does not work it will only burn the person and can cause serious injury. You have to stipple over the latex seams or build it up to blend it into the skin and the same with prosaide+cabosil prosthetic. Some bald caps are made out of a plastic cap material and can be blended with tiny amounts of acetone or 100 proof alcohol. But latex will not blend that way. Don't believe anyone who says you can blend latex with acetone. They will only hurt the actor. My main recommendation is to make sure your prosthetic edges are very, very thin and irregular then you can do a light stipple over the edges if needed. That is the best way to make your edges blend into the skin.
Thank you for posting. :)
Egg Head FX thank you too. I’m very glad for your answer, i watched all your videos in a single day and i Found Its very easy to understand and very fluent. I knew about acetone, i will not use, i swear 😄 have a good day. Bye
THANK YOU for these very informative tutorials!!!! What prosthetic adhesive do you use? And where can I find/buy it from?
The adhesive is called Prosaide. You can purchase it in costume stores or on Amazon. www.amazon.com/s?k=prosaide+adhesive&pd_rd_r=d9a280e9-1d20-4254-9ce9-78da6d51a0e1&pd_rd_w=vGmxV&pd_rd_wg=2tOD2&pf_rd_p=7be70e42-b5c0-4077-873a-35a472a6fbd4&pf_rd_r=ZTX1VDG0M6J5T4J4TD5F&qid=1569972682&ref=sugsr_2
This is so helpful
Is vegetable Glycerin the same or is that not gonna work, lol cause i found Glycerin and vegetable Glycerin.
I use regular glycerin, I don't know anything about veggie glycerin. Sorry.
thanks
@@theph0enix24 it's the same thing. Glycerine is glycerine regardless but it can be sourced from animal products as well as vegetable products but the end product is identical
hello! thanks for this great tutorial. just wanted to ask if that witch hazel product will have the same results on latex ? thanks!
+RouRou
No witch hazel will not dissolve latex. I don't know of any product that can dissolve latex that is save to use on skin.
+Egg Head FX So what do you recommend to dissolve latex.
I don't know of any chemical that is safe to use on people. Latex is a rubber material. You can't dissolve rubber without using harsh chemicals that create a toxic fume that burns it away and both cannot be done without hurting someone "Don't Do It". The only way to clean up your edges on a latex piece is to build up the edges with more latex or prosaid and cabsil "cabopatch".
Egg Head FX Alright thanks. I really appreciate it.Because I just made some latex and ive been having problems shaping the edges. It's for a project at school. This was a life Savior. I've been using a manicane for now. This is real informative because I don't want to accidentally hurt someone.
Yes, you should NEVER use chemicals directly on skin that are not intended for skin. Always think of the safety of the actor.
would this method work with half a face mold? Also could u use any other paints on the prosthetic or would Alcohol based paints only work on it?
Yes you could do a half face molds but it would need to be a two part mold to get good feathered edges. And Yes you can use other makeups like color wheels and cream makeup. But first test the makeups on a sample gelatin piece to make sure the colors looks natural and not un-natural on the skin.
How long can i store this without the product going bad? (Sorry for bad English)
You can keep your prosthetic in the fridge for several weeks and in the freezer could last several months. Remember it's made from food grade products. (not edible but made from some food products) So it will have a shelf life.
Hello, I have another question I hope u can help me :c I am doing a prosthetic "mask" and I wanted to use this technique but I dont know if this will help for a long time. Actor have to wear it for hours and I'll going to make it one week before. Is this going to melt? or something? And, can I glue it with látex? and about paint, can I use other kind, like creamy paintings? please help, thanks!
+diesehexe
Many questions... First gelatin can melt. It's not the best material to use for prosthetics because it doesn't hold up well in heat or under hot lights. It is also not the most flexible for prosthetic it can be heavy depending on how thick the mask is. There is a material called, "Foam Gelatin" that might work. You will have to research it.
Foam latex and silicone would be better choices. You cannot glue gelatin with latex. You need to use prosthetic adhesive. You should do a test makeup to see if it fits your needs. Good luck.
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Does someone know the translation for ''Flocking'' in spanish? Because I don't understand what that product is nor where to buy it
+Azu lita
It is also called Flock Powder. It is used in art and hobby projects. Google Flock Powder and you will find it. Hope that helps. :)
+Egg Head FX Thanks!
In order to make larger, durable pieces, do you use the same recipe for the other gelatin?
Yes you can. There are several recipes for gelatin prosthetics floating around the internet. They are all similar with small variations to the measurements. But all about the same. Thanks. :)
Do you have to use glycerine?
Hey Spoiled, glycerine keeps the gelatin appliance from drying out and makes it stronger. If you just use water you will have food grade jello which does not work at all for make up effects.
Hey! Im having trouble finding out which kind of witch hazel to use, I'll have to buy it online from a store in the EU but the prices and descriptions vary greatly. Is it destilled witch hazel? With alcohol or ethanol? I can't seem to find a straight answer anywhere. So i was hoping you could help me :)
+Nikita Austin
Hi Nikita, The stuff I have is 86% witch hazel, there is no alcohol in it. It says on the bottle that it is used to relief symptoms from minor scratches and cuts.
+Egg Head FX Do you know what the last 14% is then? Because i can only seem to find it with alcohol in it, or made with ethanol :/
+Nikita Austin
I think its just water in what I have. You can do a test with what you have available. Do a little experiment see if it dissolves the edges on a thin piece of gelatin. If it works then you are good to go. :)
Where did you pick up your sorbitol?
MoNsTeRsQuAdfan I bought my Sorbitol at a local grocery store. Pharmacies usually have it as well.
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super vidéo ! bisous
Good info on the gelatin. Terrible paint job.
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I replied to your message :) Thanks
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