ENGINE FAILURE in a single engine aircraft and how to SURVIVE if the worst happens.

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  • So you’ve got a serious situation to deal with and when it all goes quiet up front you need to focus all your experience and training into what could be the most important landing you will ever make.
    So, join me today as together we look at surviving an engine failure in a single engine aircraft.
    From the early days of learning to fly you are taught to always be thinking ahead of the aircraft and in having a Plan B or even C if things don’t go as intended and before you ever get to go solo you are taught to expect the worse and always think that that whirly thing in front of you could stop spinning at any moment.
    Modern aircraft engines are very reliable and with proper maintenance and careful handling they can remain 100% reliable throughout their useful life, but, there is a myriad of reasons why that propeller might stop turning partially or even completely and it’s not all about mechanical failure.
    Carb icing, fouled plugs, wrong mixture setting, or just general fuel starvation through vapour lock or water contamination are all reasons that the donkey might quit even though the actual engine is perfectly serviceable.
    Survivability is highly likely but not guaranteed once the thrust is lost but there’s plenty you can do to prevent and mitigate from it happening and if it does to put the odds in your favour.
    Thanks to Martin Blandy for the clip of his EFATO training video. He has his own channel here if you want to see more: / @stratotramp6243
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  • @mikehopkins8350
    @mikehopkins8350 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I had engine failure in a Beech Musketeer a couple years ago. Was only 1500 ft AGL. Not much time to diagnose problem but oil pressure had taken significant drop so I turned towards the field. I was about six miles out. Engine quit within a few seconds after the turn. I immediately set best glide speed. There was major highway with lots of traffic and power lines. I opted for a gravel road. Slope was down hill but I couldn’t tell that until I was already committed to landing. There was a very slight dog leg turn in the road. The airplane wouldn’t make the turn so airplane departed the road. When over about 400 ft of Texas sagebrush and then into some bushes. The bushes quickly slowed the airplane. Then the right wing impacted a small (2-3 inch trunk) tree. I didn’t feel much of a tug on the seatbelt. I was fine. Only injury was scratches from climbing through the bushes. Airplane was totaled by the tree. I didn’t feel any fear through the process. No panic at all. I would suggest always selecting landing site prior to working on engine problems. I did change fuel tanks, checked mixture without success and then it was time to land. It was the smoothest power off landing I ever made.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well done Mike. Fantastic thanks Sir.

    • @rinzler9775
      @rinzler9775 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Textbook emergency landing by the sound of it.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@rinzler9775 textbook, no, walked away, yes 🙂

    • @GlassHouseBiking
      @GlassHouseBiking ปีที่แล้ว

      Out of curiosity are you the owner of the plane or were you renting it? I’m still working on my PPL and I rent the planes I am training in. I have always wondered what the costs would be, how the insurance handles it, etc.
      At 1500 AGL, I imagine that was pretty nerve wrenching! Do you recall about how long it took for you to glide down? (3-4min?)

    • @meznaric
      @meznaric ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@GlassHouseBiking If an engine fails, don't worry about the aircraft, it belongs to the insurance company at that point.

  • @jamesnoonan7450
    @jamesnoonan7450 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a full-time flight instructor, this video is excellent, and I may even use it as a teaching aid. Each step is informative and concise, which is important when teaching new pilots about engine out procedures. I've been flying for 6 years and instructing full-time for 3 years. Luckily, in that time, I've only ever suffered a partial avionic failure, but it certainly wasn't an emergency situation. I was taught to fly bye a old school instructor I remember I was about mid way through my PPL training and we where going through engine out procedures and I will always remeber what he said "know matter what happens James, fly the fucking aircraft" we both chuckled at this remark but its stuck with me until this day, now im teaching my own students. The old addage is never far wrong in my opinion aviate, navigate, communicate.

  • @hefeibao
    @hefeibao 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The acronym that I was taught that made is easier for me to learn this was "ABCDE"
    A -> Airspeed: Set best glide speed
    B -> Best place to land (identify, then head towards it)
    C -> Checklist: go through your memory items (for engine fire / engine out respectively)
    D -> Declare emergency (set transponder to 7700, flip ELT, set radio to 121.5 if needed, broadcast mayday)
    E -> Execute forced landing checklist
    Also, what video editing software are you using if I can ask?

  • @braininavatnow9197
    @braininavatnow9197 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I learned to fly gliders before I got my private ASEL... Engine failure has never been my "worst nightmare"... Things like midair collisions, fires, icing and my own stupidity are what scares me the most.
    I would recommend that every pilot spend some time in a glider... It's relatively inexpensive and fun.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Doing a course this year. Thank you.

    • @phaedradg
      @phaedradg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Funny, I had exactly the same reaction when I moved from gliders to single engine planes. When the instructor cut (idled) the engine, he seemed to expect me to be scared, but I felt perfectly at ease.
      Plus, a glider forces you to coordinate your turns and be very focused on energy management all the time.
      I once had an incident, while I was inside a CTR and above a major city. Suddenly, both my fuel gauges indicated "empty", and I had a young passenger on board. I had to request a return ASAP, make sure the passenger didn't notice anything, and be on a constant lookout for a place to land. In the end, I made it back to the airfield safe and sound, it was an indicator issue.

    • @braininavatnow9197
      @braininavatnow9197 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@phaedradg 😁

  • @rinzler9775
    @rinzler9775 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I got an engine oil light about 5 minutes out from the runway - immediately turned around and headed back to land. Landing went fine and taxied back, started to smell burning oil and shut her down. Popped the cowl and there was oil sprayed everywhere. A few minutes more would be looking at an engine fire.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lucky indeed. I had complete engine failure in a Piper Arrow at Calais, scary stuff especially that 10 minutes later and I would have been mid-channel :-(

    • @rinzler9775
      @rinzler9775 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShortField as in mid the English Channel ?

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rinzler9775 yep.

    • @eoinoconnell185
      @eoinoconnell185 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ShortField What's the best way of flying over water in a single-engine ? As high as possible ?

  • @robertshaver4432
    @robertshaver4432 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I advocate for practicing side slips, in this way you can make your approach high "and know" when you can side slip into your chosen crash site. This may option you to choose a differing spot in Liew of seeing a ditch, barbed wire fence, or many other difficult to see hidden obstacles. Buy options via knowing how to drop in and being "confident/well practiced" at it. I used to side slip on every landing because if you're dragging it in on power and the motor quits... you're not going to make it! Side slip is a powerful attribute to have and maintain "energy in the bank"! Watch your airspeed when you are practicing it, It'll soon become 2nd nature and "simple"!

    • @hefeibao
      @hefeibao 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, I'd rather be high and have to slip than be low and then there is nothing for it but land short and...ooops.

  • @irishflyer6377
    @irishflyer6377 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    About 15 years ago I had a complete failure at 1200 agl , my take away is the first S, size is important, we can survive rough surface but not clipping trees. BTW, the aircraft flew again. Great Video

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great story thank you

  • @davidrubaloff5725
    @davidrubaloff5725 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Engine stopped running in my rental C172 over Puddingstone Reservoir out of Brackett Airfield, La Verne California. I was flying from Van Nuys airport. Landed and had lunch and took off headed back to Van Nuys when while over Puddingstone Reservoir the engine quit running (approximately at 1,300 AGL). Indelibly edged in my memory “will this be my last day on the planet?” I establish glide speed thinking of a possible water landing, but was able to restart the engine.Traded airspeed for altitude. I headed back to the airport landed and called the FBO. They sent a plane with two pilots to pick me up. They test flew the plane around the pattern with no problem and asked me if I would like to fly it back. I said no thank you. Turns out they had fuel contamination problem with several other airplane at this FBO on this day.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Scary story David but well done Sir. Thank you

  • @mcchazza
    @mcchazza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Super video, thanks Terry.
    I fly a flexwing with 912ULS (I am one year & 100 hours after qualifying). 20 hours after qualifying I had an engine out (turned out to be a clogged fuel line). I was 450m AGL so plenty of time to do everything including PAN-PAN to FIS. All went well except...
    1. My routine started from looking for fields and ensuring best glide, to the extent that I didn't switch on the fuel pump when trying to restart the engine. My instructor told me afterwards that if I had switched on the pump quickly enough there would be a decent chance I could have restarted the engine and got back to my airfield with the pump on
    2. Despite having the huge luxury of multiple flat fields straight ahead of me (and into the wind) when the engine died, my instincts told to me to avoid all the nice grassy fields and land in the single ploughed field (despite remembering my training telling me ploughed fields were the worst option). My mind kept saying "you don't know what's under that tall grass - what if you hit a hole?". Luckily the ploughed field was very dry and I kept the nose up as long as possible, so no harm done other than a fried wheel bearing - I stopped in what seemed like zero seconds flat!
    Nothing since then but I ensure I try simulated engine out landings often.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wow what a way to start your flying career :-) At least you dealt with the problem and had a successful outcome, well done Adam. Not sure how a flex glides with a stationary fixed pitch prop but if it's anything like the SportCruiser it's like having a concrete block hanging from the aircraft, even at our best glide speed I was getting +850 fpm, so on the deck in just over 120 seconds from 2,000ft add in a reaction time and you don't have long. Thank you so much for your kind comments they are really appreciated. Fly safe Adam, cheers Terry

    • @mcchazza
      @mcchazza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ShortField Many thanks Terry. Maybe not quite a concrete block, more like a heavy wooden beam :) Effective glide ratio for my not-at-all-aerodynamic flex is about 4:1-5:1, so the 2 minutes you quoted was close to what I had. Adrenaline kicks in, the training kicks in, and for me it seemed like the time stretched out for minutes on end... Fly safe, keep well. Adam

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      All the very best Adam.

  • @354dw
    @354dw ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My mitigations, I start every flight thinking *it will happen on this flight*… for instance immediately before I press Starter button I remind myself of “fire on start actions”, at every point of flight I have a mental note of wind direction relative to heading, nearest airfield, any suitable landing fields I’ve noticed. I believe this would Reduce workload and increases chance of making best possible decisions when confronted by the “oh cr*p” moment.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a great safe way of flying. I try not to be so defensive that I end up not enjoying the flight worrying about what's going to go wrong. Saying that being prepared is the best thing you can do to keep yourself safe. Thank you, great comment.

  • @101akar
    @101akar ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i take it you manage to land it safely - was eager to see the safe landing in the video

  • @renefeijen5916
    @renefeijen5916 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Using this video to mentally help prepare for a little pre-test-exam flight tomorrow (Comco C42CS)

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry for the late reply. Oh how did you get on?

  • @thecrow3380
    @thecrow3380 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Don't panic!" Easy to say, but apparently very hard to do, for many people.
    I seem utterly immune to panic, for which I give my thanks to the Great Spirit.
    One might do very well indeed, one imagines, if one could somehow market such an ability to those in need (:>

  • @ronnyskaar3737
    @ronnyskaar3737 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where I live we don't have those endless fields you have in England. Hills, mountains and water dominate.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Ronny, we are lucky in that respect but still prefer the US for GA.

  • @flashcar60
    @flashcar60 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    All good points, Mr. Short Field. I would just add: maintain proficiency in forward slips, so that you can come in a bit hot and high, and yet put it on the numbers.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These little aircraft do slip really well and you can drop around 1,000ft in 1/4 mile that is a really great point, if I do an update I will include that. Cheers Sam

  • @wingandaprayer883
    @wingandaprayer883 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Something worth adding, lets say we do all our vital actions, we have selected a field that looks suitable. Unable to restart.. we are committed. As we approach our chosen landing spot, we misjudge and are a bit fast.. space is running out. If it becomes evident that we are going to crash a new mindset needs to take over. We need to assess how the nature of our crash is going to be. What can we use to dissipate our energy as we crash, is there a stockade fence we can deliberately crash through, or a suitable hedge. We now need to fly into the crash. It is worth thinking about this as last resort.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว

      Fantastic comment I should have gone into that, thank you

    • @wingandaprayer883
      @wingandaprayer883 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShortField I forgot to say... excellent video! My suggestion above, is strangely something that generally seems to get skipped during flight training. I feel like more crashes would be survivable if pilots had that plan of last resort. Naturally as pilots we hate the thought of bending or destroying our aeroplanes, but once the engine fails.. the aeroplane now belongs to the insurance company.

  • @pebble24
    @pebble24 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I mainly fly gliders so not completely applicable but the one big tip I can give is as much as possible never fly where there isn't a safe landing spot or at least one where you can glide to

  • @brettwest549
    @brettwest549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video. My only contention is you said fly “gliding speed the whole way.” This is 99% correct. When you are very low (say 50’ AGL) you should work hard to slow considerably below Vg. Full flaps, and just a few knots above flaps stall by ground contact. Survivability is all about low energy when you contact whatever you are going to contact. Stall is worse case case, just above stall is best case. It’s a thin line, but hitting ground at Vg in most airplanes is about 20 knots too fast, and 4x the energy at impact. Thanks for a great video.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate this very helpful comment, thank you Brett agree with everything you say. I wanted to keep the video short and get the main points across but maybe I should have added more detail such as your points. Thank you for your kind comment it is so appreciated.

    • @lorenzo99945
      @lorenzo99945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShortField what is the app that you have on your phone called??

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lorenzo99945 it's SkyDemon probably the best and most used VFR app in the country.

    • @lorenzo99945
      @lorenzo99945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShortField thank you so much

  • @GolfFoxtrot22
    @GolfFoxtrot22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I noted your comment about using Google maps to seek out alternative field. I have been caught out by Google removing powerlines, it was a key piece of information I needed. Great video and nicely scripted.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's a great point and I really didn't bang on enough (if at all) about wires. Oh well, thanks for the comment and view Giles.

  • @raymondlancaster3355
    @raymondlancaster3355 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If it really happens to you it will happen fast and you will have very little time to figure this out. Unfortunately there’s a lot of luck in getting a plane into a small field. Best thing you can have Is a copilot and unless you are very skilled and gifted, Good Luck.

  • @sarahcolliver7650
    @sarahcolliver7650 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great content. I always get students to verbalise EFOTO/EFATO on the holding point so that it is at the fore front of their minds before take off. One thing you kept saying, which I thought was excellent, was keep flying, fly it to the ground. I think sometimes we can forget the basics. Don’t give up. Take it to the crash site as they say and not the other way around.
    Really enjoying these vlogs.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Sarah appreciate the view and kind comment.

  • @altomar718
    @altomar718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting video as always mate - I did my bi-annual only yesterday and the instructor made an interesting point, which, when I was learning, was never mentioned .... when you have selected your field, make the approach into wind and if you too low, cut the corner (was told that) but if you are too high, pick two features on the base leg, a clump of trees, farmhouse or something, and always use those as a reference for your 'S' turns, so you are always lined up on base, and your selected field..... make sure, you maintain the same speed so you are not suddenly gaining distance towards the field ..... so, in effect, minimise any 'surprises' !!! - It might be normally taught, but I was never told that !! Cheers Terry

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great advice Chris and thanks for your always appreciated support.

  • @zackaplowitz
    @zackaplowitz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:38 just made me jump out of my seat. Surprised nobody else mentioned that.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣

    • @TheTonylegrone
      @TheTonylegrone ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i have just shat myself

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheTonylegrone If you were in it and it did that, you deffo would 🤣

  • @JimPfarr
    @JimPfarr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've had 5 engine out emergency landings. The first was terrible but ultimately safe, the rest were much better. This is an essential skill to master, thanks for the video!

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers Jim for the kind comment. 5 engine outs, is your nickname 'Lucky' LOL. Glad you dealt with them, I'm sure it must make a better pilot of you. Good man.

    • @frankrosenbloom
      @frankrosenbloom ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Maybe a new mechanic?

    • @FlyingGospel
      @FlyingGospel ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Five?!?! I know pilots with tens of thousands of hours on single piston aircraft that never had any failures, who the heck was inspecting your machine, and what machine was it???

    • @JimPfarr
      @JimPfarr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @The Flying Gospel it was an ultralight I built from a kit with a 1/2 VW engine. I readily admit I am not the best engine mechanic, thus is the life of an experimental builder/pilot.

  • @MikeD-qx1kr
    @MikeD-qx1kr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never heard of the 5S in engine failure but always wondered about them! Very informative, thank you! I will add some things that several flight instructors told me:
    - if you have to go into trees, pick tall needle trees like fir or pine. Their branches are brittle and will break instead of bouncing you back like other leafy trees like oaks or birches.
    - landing on water will almost certainly flip you over with non-retracteable gear, but statistically it is more likely to survive than land-crashing.
    - don't try to do the impossible turn, or try to go over that last obstacle by pulling up and reducing your speed. You might make it over the obstacle, but if you stall, the plane will simply fall straight down in a vertical fashion (no speed...) resulting in spine injuries. Better hit an obstacle horizontally than jumping out of a skyscraper.
    - when over urban areas and no field is available, open football stadium could work. Any green area before a house or a school.
    - roads also have crossing powerlines, signs and bridges, keep that in mind. 🙃

    • @luckyknot
      @luckyknot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      very nice ones thanks for sharing.

  • @ranh71
    @ranh71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Terry, great video!!

  • @GrumpyPilotMax
    @GrumpyPilotMax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another belter Terry keep them coming

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers John, awesome comment.

  • @neilbarriskell7840
    @neilbarriskell7840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoying the series and one on engine failure is always a winner

  • @Mr.Scootini
    @Mr.Scootini ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not sure if this is a bad thing. But being a person who used to go Kart racing as a child. I found that I often listen to the engine, feel how the stick vibrates, how the pedals vibrate. Anything weird I feel. Like a literal burp from the engine I look at my engine instruments.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That fan is only there to keep the pilot cool, need proof, well watch him sweat when it stops turning. It's an old one but so true.

  • @on4bbd
    @on4bbd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing Terry.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for watching.

  • @porkorosso7885
    @porkorosso7885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video Terry, thanks again. I don’t practice enough and this is a great reminder. Cheers.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Vince, I think we're all guilty of that.

    • @hefeibao
      @hefeibao 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If there were a nodding emoji, I'd use it. I think this is more common than not, and as you say a good reminder.

  • @JOSHL50
    @JOSHL50 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    nice video and discussion. thanks!

  • @markvaughn8096
    @markvaughn8096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I enjoyed your Video and tips and Would like to add one for consideration.... First off understand we fly out of Fields that are often surrounded by Trees with few open fields.... With that in mind OUR approach is as follows.... When we depart our field, we leave the ground and begin our climb monitoring our field position and altitude above the trees in case we need to land straight ahead............. As we continue our climb and determine a straight ahead runway landing is no longer possible we start a slight right turn off the runway heading and continue to widen our distance from the field as we climb to a point were we then fly parallel heading from our runway but continue our climb.... This way at any point we loose power we can comfortably perform a 180º turn that puts us lined up on the runway centerline with a slight tail wind to reach it...... I hope this makes some level of sense..... Its un orthodox departure I know but trust me I also know it works.. I have first hand experience hahahahahaha after suffering a gearbox failure on a 582 powered aircraft..... I was so low at the time I didnt make the strip but did safely land in the grass along side the runway........

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd love to know where that strip is. Great explanation and for locals and based aircraft that sounds like a very practical procedure. Thanks for the insight and kind comments Mark.

    • @markvaughn8096
      @markvaughn8096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ShortField Our home field is here in NewEngland 8MA4 in Stow MA..... My failure took place at a neighboring field, 3B3 in Sterling, MA..

  • @brentsummers7377
    @brentsummers7377 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    0:17 is the ideal scenario with lots of options for a forced landing. Unfortunately, a lot of the time you're really depending on that propellor keeping on turning. For example when flying over the sea or hills or over a big city. There are plenty of airports where if the engine quits 20 seconds after take-off your only option will be landing in the sea & hopefully close to a beach.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว

      Very true Brent. Thank you.

  • @xl447
    @xl447 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a failure in a 2t weightshift on climb out. The brass main jet slot broke off in the bowl partially blocking fuel flow and caused a lean backfire. I thought a local model RC aircraft had gone through the wing, it was so loud in the headset! lol. Lost usable thrust, and promptly remembered to 'fly the plane' back onto the runway. 👍
    Had a couple icing scenarios too, luckily melted as gravity started to win.

  • @michaelcliffe562
    @michaelcliffe562 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Something I've always pondered on... how come the engine in my Renault Clio has NEVER failed/lost power in thousands of hours of use in over 8 years of operation in all sorts of wheather conditions. As a matter of fact I've never been stranded at a road side due to an automotive break down in 20 plus years and nearly a million kilometers. Yet engine faliures seem almost common in general aviation even though your life depends on that NOT happening.

    • @mrmangosir
      @mrmangosir ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fair comment, but your Renault Clio stays on the ground. More variables up in the sky, but that's my opinion.

  • @xxxMattxxxuk
    @xxxMattxxxuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another good one Terry 👍

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers Matt always appreciate your support.

  • @pilotgianni
    @pilotgianni ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Very informative. 😊👍🏻

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Gianni

  • @stephencook9727
    @stephencook9727 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yep was flying a Robin into Lydd once when the engine cut out on late final. I hit the starter key and it fired up again. Told the group who said, oh not again. That was not much help.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL that is funny.

  • @michaelcliffe562
    @michaelcliffe562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your content by the way! Subbed

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Michael, really honoured. Hope I get to keep your sub Sir.

  • @stevenmerriman4479
    @stevenmerriman4479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know this is for a vid, but the manual for our cruisers says PULL THE RED HANDLE.... Once the whirly thing in front stops, it belongs to the insurance company.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL I was going to say that but wanted to keep the video non-specific to type. :-)

    • @That737Driver
      @That737Driver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      On our cruisers they state to only use the parachute in extreme emergencies where a safe off-airport landing is extremely unlikely.
      Does your manual state a minimum use height for the parachute? Ours doesn't unfortunately!

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@That737Driver no minimum deployment in either speed on height, however once the chute is deployed you've lost all control over the situation. Engine failure immediately after take off (use as drag) at or night or water or a loss of a control surface would probably be the only time I would use it.

    • @That737Driver
      @That737Driver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ShortField Agreed, it's a very last resort kind of decision to make. The Cirrus is much clearer in how and when to use its chute, but they also make you use it basically all the time!

    • @stevenmerriman4479
      @stevenmerriman4479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@That737Driver No, but the chute manual states 400 feet minimum. Call BRS, they will happily send you a copy.

  • @robstarksflyingdiary7475
    @robstarksflyingdiary7475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video as usual Terry, the only thing I would add is that you can't do to many PFLs, they should be baked into your flying routine, so when it happens for real you have some muscle memory of what to do next.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great point Rob and through training it usually is but sadly too many of us seem to put it way at the back of our minds as the years roll by. Thanks for your always excellent comments and your support.

    • @doctriestosew4333
      @doctriestosew4333 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is pfl

  • @JodelFlyer
    @JodelFlyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent informative video Terry. You have hit upon a very good format. Did you land deadstick and yes, rate of descent is greater when the engine does stop!

  • @guypowers4488
    @guypowers4488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video 🙌👏👏

  • @dafuqBill
    @dafuqBill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic video Terry! I fee you’d be brilliant in a gas emergency in a domestic home

  • @tonycleworth8116
    @tonycleworth8116 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve had 2 engine stops over the years. 1) Chipmunk DHC-1 was a successful glide to a landing. Beautifully carried out by my cohort in the front seat. 2) Bolkow Junior. This was a successful inflight restart. 🫣😮‍💨

  • @pete30505
    @pete30505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like your videos
    Keep up the good work

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much Joe.

  • @flyingkub
    @flyingkub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When the pilot cooling fan stops :-) Watch them sweat!! It is funny I was trained years ago with an instructor who said don't use 5S use "Land With 6S" The break up of that is With = Wind (as he put it one of the most critical parts because at least you can crash slower into wind) then you have you 5S's the additional S was for Stock as he said they can just wonder into the way. I found out when in a helicopter that they do when we arrived with the drive from the engine failed and as we ran on a cow cross infront and put a big dent in the nose of the Wessex.
    As PIC I had engine failure on my first Solo but that is another story.
    In my next video you will hear that I fly using the stepping stones method.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Algy, looking forward to that video. I am always willing and happy to be educated.

    • @flyingkub
      @flyingkub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShortField it is not an educational video but I do make a comment about as I am flying lower than normal I am picking my way past areas with limited option by using landable field like steping stones.

  • @InducedBank
    @InducedBank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great vid and well scripted. Only thing to add is the radio call - if you have the time - that way there's a fighting chance someone might be able to find you and help you out on the ground if needed!

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great point and thanks for the kind comments.

    • @ulbuilder
      @ulbuilder 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Landed in a bean field just before sunset. I'm sure no one would have located me before sunrise the following day. Fortunately, the airplane and I were perfectly fine.

  • @murrayhelmer8941
    @murrayhelmer8941 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had 2 engine failures in my 1st 500 hrs. Both turned out ok. But the 1st one. C182 scared the crap out of me. The 2nd C185 I was ready. I had made a point of practising at least 1 forced approach on every flight. Both were during the daytime. Needless to say. I think anyone who flies a single engine piston at night needs their head examined.

  • @neildpadmore
    @neildpadmore ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching from Zimbabwe! thank you!

  • @reinaldosalgadojunior
    @reinaldosalgadojunior 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing ! 😃

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Cheers!

  • @kevchilton908
    @kevchilton908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another excellent video, Terry. Did that big fan at the front really stop 😬.... or was it my imagination?!!
    👏👏

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Kev. It only stopped because I shut the engine down :-)

    • @kevchilton908
      @kevchilton908 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShortField 😱
      You did a dead-stick landing, Terry? Or did you re-start her?

  • @user-fh3td3fi1v
    @user-fh3td3fi1v 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, however I was confused at the end when he said if you overshoot go around 😢. ..

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was trying to say stay high on the approach, not sure I said go around obvs that wouldn't be possible with no engine :-) Thanks

  • @mrb13676
    @mrb13676 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video… I’m going to be THAT guy and ask about deliberately shutting down the engine in flight and how worried you’d be about restarting. The 912 there is carbed isn’t it? I’ve struggled to start my 914 hot….. I wouldn’t like to try that… otherwise good stuff… I’d add to feather the prop if you have an electric CSU - will improve the glide range.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you. 912 starts really easily when hot, I was over an airfield when I did this and sadly don't have a CSU but great point. Thank you so much.

  • @gerepk
    @gerepk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best place to get an engine failure, all fields around you. If I get an engine failure in barcelona man If im lucky I can land in the highway cause the rest are all cities and buildings😂.....

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've thought about that alot, if engine failure in a single at night, over water, in low cloudbase IMC or over built up areas is so dangerous, why do we do it?

  • @myadventuresinflight
    @myadventuresinflight 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your engine-out was intentional, right? If you mentioned that at any time, I missed it. I have full confidence in Rotax 912iS, but the thought of switching off a perfectly good engine in flight makes me nervous. Great video.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it was but like you I have confidence in the 912 that it would fire up again :-) I was over an airfield.

  • @jirisykora8035
    @jirisykora8035 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just being close to finishing my ULL license. Here in Czech Rep. they will actually shut down the engine for emergency landing practice (at least 3 times as it says in the syllabus). There you realize, that is REAL.

  • @thaddiushelicon534
    @thaddiushelicon534 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Maybe you should try flying without an engine, of course I'm talking gliders.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a course booked :-) Thanks Thaddius

  • @musoseven8218
    @musoseven8218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another excellent, well thought out video Terry, sage advice and always a good subject to consider, the exception to the rule that you don't get a ship to float by focusing on it sinking?🤔🤔
    I guess that a SLMG, especially some of the Pipistrel SLMG aircraft, gives one more options 🤔🤔🤔😆😆😆
    BTW with the Rotax, do you not take the engine top cowel off to check the coolant, carb mounts etc (or is yours fuel injected?), exhausts, springs, etc etc etc?

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the support as always it is super appreciated. I know we should take the cowling off as you suggest and it is something we have discussed as a group, it is a lot of faff but after recently having a blowing exhaust and it only coming to light on the 100hr check we are going to start adding it in our pre-flight checks but probably as a once a week thing. Great points and thank you again for watching and your excellent comments.

    • @musoseven8218
      @musoseven8218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ShortFieldThanks, great channel. The checks - it's a daily (or every flight if not daily) check thing for most EV97s (Eurostars) and the Cowling's look very similar to each other (dzus fasteners etc?). So for you guys, perhaps, If two different folk are flying the same day the first takes the top cowling off (ala EV97) does ALL the checks and the second still does a burp/oil, coolant check etc, but through the cut out inspection hatches etc. Iirc (it's been ages since I've flown one) for simplicity and/or lightness the EV97 doesn't have the smaller inspection hatches - hence the top cowling off deal every time. Taking that cowling off does highlight the classic Rotax issues, carb connector pipe issues, leaking exhaust/spring issues, coolant levels, leaks of oil, coolant or fuel etc.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@musoseven8218 interesting, we will start to incorporate that, thank you.

  • @RRICKYSPANISH
    @RRICKYSPANISH ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simple don’t even attempt a restart and jump out with a parachute

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂 only if you want clicks 😂😂😂

    • @RRICKYSPANISH
      @RRICKYSPANISH ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShortField hi my names Trevor jacobs

  • @luizroberto844
    @luizroberto844 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Se falhou ligue o motor elétrico auxiliar a ser instalado no bordo central de fuga da asa, e acerte o CG com a bateria ou de lítio ou PB. E escolha um local de pouso seguro, SEM STRESS.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Obrigado

  • @OYMInternetRadio
    @OYMInternetRadio 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is one of my main concerns and why I am hesitate to take up flying again. I did 22 hours about 20 years ago and enjoyed it but with the cost/weather (similar weather issues like the UK) and the concern about issues like this (I'm older now and have a family), I'm not sure what I'll do. Do you have any suggestions on how to get past this "fear" of something happening?

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the comment, when my kids were small I stopped flying for a while through fear but then I realised it wasn't fear of crashing it was more fear of being irresponsible with a young family. Once they got a bit older I decided that I would go back to flying but set out to be the best pilot I could be and that meant lots of training and lots of hours. I think being confident and being current are your best defences in a light aircraft.

    • @OYMInternetRadio
      @OYMInternetRadio 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ShortFieldThanks for your reply.
      I had a think about it and as I'm nearing 60, I don't think the PPL or flying solo would be for me, but doing another 10 lessons with a CFI would probably help to make my mind up. Fear of the unknown and all that, so baby steps first.
      I have contacted my local(ish) training centre and asked them if they could do a 10 lesson package for now and then I'll will see how I feel at the end of it. :-)

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please let me know how you get on 👍👍

    • @OYMInternetRadio
      @OYMInternetRadio 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ShortField Yes, no worries. :-)

  • @cluster421
    @cluster421 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why did I have a jumpscare at 6:35 🤣🤣😂

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :-) I'm so sorry, it was to give you an idea how you'll feel if the engine does go pop :-)

  • @nb9440
    @nb9440 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video but I hope there’s i full landing section with no engine!!

  • @j700jam4
    @j700jam4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My instructor used the Hi Key Lo Key method for pfl, I thought it just complicated things. To this day I still don't understand it.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว

      Highly confusing I liken it to a continuous aspect approach keeping your landing spot in your view all the way down and adjusting your attitude to maintain it.

  • @cedrichelsemans34
    @cedrichelsemans34 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, why did you not show us the end of your engine failure story?

  • @K0nst4nt1n96
    @K0nst4nt1n96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just dont stall it and you will be fine.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed, but assuming that you don't stall it would be nice to be able to use the aircraft again after you've fixed the engine, cleaned the cow sh*t from the spats and washed the pilots seat. :-)

    • @K0nst4nt1n96
      @K0nst4nt1n96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShortField Yes, of course! But all the things you can consider come after flying first :D

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@K0nst4nt1n96 I was only joking, you are 100% correct, fly the aircraft until you no longer can.

  • @grahamheath3799
    @grahamheath3799 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    maybe I missed something talking about an engine failure; then at 8 minutes talking about reducing power slowly and a go around???

  • @topg2639
    @topg2639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:38 gave me a heart attack

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imaging if it was your engine going in real life then :-)

  • @kCI251
    @kCI251 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just land in a big open field

  • @grahamthebaronhesketh.
    @grahamthebaronhesketh. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unless your name is trevor jacob.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I suppose bailing out at the first hiccup was another option :-)

    • @grahamthebaronhesketh.
      @grahamthebaronhesketh. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ShortField I don't think you have enough go pro cameras to bail out.

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grahamthebaronhesketh. I do have a Ridge Wallet though so I'm nearly fully equipped 🙂

    • @grahamthebaronhesketh.
      @grahamthebaronhesketh. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShortField put it on the checklist. Dead friend. Fire extinguisher etc

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grahamthebaronhesketh. 🤣

  • @SL8408
    @SL8408 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dude you never showed the landing after the engine went out

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's for private viewing 🤣

    • @SL8408
      @SL8408 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShortField Why? we're all trying to learn to do better. might be a good learning point for the masses. just saying

    • @ShortField
      @ShortField  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SL8408 it was simulated 😀