When A Devil May Cry Player Tries ULTRAKILL

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  • @abylaiashken2611
    @abylaiashken2611 ปีที่แล้ว +364

    Finally! Hakita really loved DMC, 3rd one specifically and one can see Ultrakill's inspirations from it. Ofc it is inspired by other games too but it's cool how Ultrakill was able to create something truly its own based on what dev loved to play.

    • @wasdwazd
      @wasdwazd ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Gabriel seemed to take a lot of inspiration from Credo in DMC4, in addition to obviously being an angel, the line he speaks when he makes his first entrance is a direct quote from Credo.

    • @MechanicalReaper
      @MechanicalReaper ปีที่แล้ว +10

      "YOU MAKE EVEN THE DEVIL CRY"
      Gab

    • @Who-dg9yj
      @Who-dg9yj ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@wasdwazd pretty sure Gabriel is more of a DMC3 Vergil what with multiple encounters (very likely 3 too), "Foolishness, -Dante- machine. Foolishness.", " -I- YOU NEED. MORE. POWER!" and helm breakers.

    • @wasdwazd
      @wasdwazd ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Who-dg9yj And his summoned swords, yes, mechanically he's more of a Vergil, but there's still Credo inspiration there.

    • @maximoflorestorres9408
      @maximoflorestorres9408 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Who-dg9yj So...
      Minos (in Prime form) is inspired by Geryon.
      Sisyphus (in Prime form) is inspired by Beowulf.
      Prometheus (in Prime form) is inspired by Arkham (in Sparda form).

  • @flamaniax5728
    @flamaniax5728 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Funny thing about the Crayon analogy:
    Using a single crayon may SEEM like a waste of a perfectly good box of crayons, but as an artist, using a single crayon means I can focus on other aspects of crayon use, like how angle and force change my lines, which can be applied to other works to make my drawing better. I do all of my art on a Tablet, but drawing with a Pencil and Paper have absolutely helped me with my art.
    The same can be applied to character action games. Yes focusing on a single part of the game TOO MUCH will make it boring, but challenging yourself to say... Beat a mission in DMC using only Royalguard will inevitably help you develop as a player of that game, since you know that much more about the game from your challenge.
    This isn't to say that Using only one weapon is better than using everything in the kit, but limitations do in fact breed creativity.

    • @ChaserTech
      @ChaserTech  ปีที่แล้ว +50

      That's a good point lol.
      Honestly I was aiming for the idea that if you have all the options in the world and only use one in a very repetitive way, that's something that I would not do. That's basically sums up what the analogy is supposed to be about but maybe I could have worded it better in this vid.

    • @palmabolp
      @palmabolp ปีที่แล้ว +23

      That is kinda how Mayo% Ultrakill runs evolved. They were born out of mere mockery of Mayo, but bit later it showed the skill it actually takes to beat some really challenging levels, such as P-1 and P-2 with only the piercer.
      What Mayo did in this case however is playing with the piercer only, when he had little experience with the game.
      Limiting yourself to a certain material, tool or whatever in something as a challenge can absolutely help you improve, but I feel like it works when you actually know and understand the skill that you are putting to the test. It is kinda like if I was right now challenged to do a realistic protrait of a person with nothing but a single pencil with no eraser, while also having very limited knowledge on anatomy, proportions, perspective, shading etc. and not having drawn anything other than a doodle 5 months ago, it would take ages and I would be utterly miserable by the end of it. But if actually knew how to properly draw and all and knowing what I can do with the pencil I would probably find it fun.
      Personally, I did limit myself in other games and found it fun, because I knew how the game worked before doing it. And more experienced Ultrakill players found Mayo% kinda fun. I think you get the point by now.

    • @maximoflorestorres9408
      @maximoflorestorres9408 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@palmabolp
      Minos Prime is inspired by Geryon.
      Sisyphus Prime is inspired by Beowulf.
      Prometheus Prime is inspired by Arkham.

  • @Eziokilla9595
    @Eziokilla9595 ปีที่แล้ว +501

    UnderTheMayo really made a fool of himself with Ultrakill didn't he

    • @ChaserTech
      @ChaserTech  ปีที่แล้ว +382

      He really did lol.
      Overall UnderTheMayo's biggest problem is that he tries to put his views on a game that he doesn't like which makes him look horrible. And then when he's criticized about his opinions, he takes this weird passive aggressive route where he mocks the fanbase by saying something like "Oh if you want to eat moldy stale bread then I guess that's kind of cool. This game is for you but it's not for me."
      Then he'll act surprised when people react negatively to him. I see it with every video of every game that he doesn't like lol.

    • @ReneeSitra
      @ReneeSitra ปีที่แล้ว +67

      ​@ChaserTech his review of vanquish was absolutely atrocious
      I love his survival horror reviews but he always shits the bed when in comes to talking about action

    • @youtuberguy123
      @youtuberguy123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      UnderTheMayo still lives in your head rent free lol

    • @ReyHunter
      @ReyHunter ปีที่แล้ว +73

      My man made a new speedrun category singlehandedly

    • @vazazell5967
      @vazazell5967 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@ChaserTechliterally normal reviewer behavior with game they don't like

  • @MetalMustBleed
    @MetalMustBleed ปีที่แล้ว +90

    what i also like about ultrakill is that it really doesn't force you to play a certain way.
    wanna play it like a classic doom game? (by being cautious and only Being aggressive in the open) you can do that!
    hate style and prefer efficiency? (Insta killing enemies or Just falt out killing anything that comes your way in the least wasteful way) You can Do that!
    Want to be Stylish? and laugh at your enemies who can't even hit you? (Dodging enemies in terrible ways that make them look like a joke) you can do that!
    really love the freedom it gives.

    • @gento5o5
      @gento5o5 ปีที่แล้ว

      you wanna fuck around in sandbox ? so be it !

    • @W1KTORious
      @W1KTORious ปีที่แล้ว

      Ans then a moron argued that the game sucks for that

  • @heliax9924
    @heliax9924 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Ultrakill is such a Unique game and seeing the game come this far in popularity and be regognized by Devil may cry veterans is amazing the inspiration from dmc is clear and yet the game still manages too stand out so much with all the tech the game has too offer i cant wait for act 3 ,And btw the way in ultrakill in case you didnt know you can use the Whiplash too get an enemy close too you and jump on them ,YES you heard me right you can enemy step in ultrakill and pretend you are doing jump cancels lol

    • @ChaserTech
      @ChaserTech  ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yeah that was one of the first things I tested. I was like "ok so if this game is like DMC, there has to be enemy step" and yeah I was right.

    • @heliax9924
      @heliax9924 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ChaserTech Lmao fair enought

  • @ChaserTech
    @ChaserTech  ปีที่แล้ว +152

    I just realized I said there's 6 guns instead of 5. lol I'm stupid
    Other stuff I got wrong: Shockwave is not based off of height. You just need to make sure you're holding the crouch button when you hit the ground, which will eat up a dash.

    • @VaclavRytina
      @VaclavRytina ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I mean, you can theoretically count spawner arm

    • @heavygaming1167
      @heavygaming1167 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      just wait for act 3

    • @Certified_Dante
      @Certified_Dante ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@heavygaming1167Hakita said the Rocket Launcher is the last weapon.

    • @VaclavRytina
      @VaclavRytina ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hakita confirmed there won't be more weapons

    • @duke9621
      @duke9621 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@VaclavRytina WAIT REALLY

  • @Sheba7660
    @Sheba7660 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    10:56 Thanks for shouting me out, Chaser! Feels kind of weird to see my video in someone else's. I've been watching you since the DMC4 days, and I just wanted to say that I'm so glad you're making more videos recently, and that you're expanding your content. Was really interested in this video, since you said you'd be covering it, and it did not dissapoint! I hope you keep making what you want to make, and not what your audience expects.
    For anyone who decides to visit my channel, I have some gameplay videos and several guides on ULTRAKILL. Tying into Chaser's point about bindings in the video, I uploaded a video about getting your binds right last week! Hopefully my videos are helpful, and feel free to ask about anything you need in the comments. My channel is really small, so I read every single comment!

    • @ChaserTech
      @ChaserTech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ay no problem man. I remembered your comment in a post I made about action games so I thought it was necessary to bring up your work. Great stuff btw!

    • @Sheba7660
      @Sheba7660 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChaserTech Thanks! I hope you got some good info out of those. Since I'm here, I just wanted to add that I miss the enemy manipulation from dmc in ultrakill. I wish I was able to juggle them, and knock them around, pull them back, etc. As an avid Nero enjoyer, I'm sure you know EXACTLY the kind of combos I'd like to do. Anyways, thanks for your time, and have a good day!

  • @dragonwell7747
    @dragonwell7747 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    It was only a matter of time, this was a good perspective from a DMC pro!

  • @AxelGame
    @AxelGame ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Did you get all P ranks yet? Because if not, then man
    You are in for a treat of a lifetime.
    Also, fun fact about coins and shooting them: any hitscan attack works, which means you can, for example, send back the laser attack from a malicious face back into it. Or someone else. Or a core grenade

    • @MetalMustBleed
      @MetalMustBleed ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Also Fun fact :
      You can actually Parry with the knuckleblaster and the overheat pump
      knuckleblaster is Extremely useful against Mindflayers
      overpump (along side sharpshooter) can Insta kill malicious faces

    • @legalwaterdrinker3286
      @legalwaterdrinker3286 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​@@MetalMustBleedAnother fun fact: you can time your knuckleblaster blast so that it shoots your coin into the heaven, this only work on levels with no ceiling like the cybergrind, but by doing so, you can use another coin to make it an orbital airstrike, useful for killing the last enemy in a wave that is out of sight

    • @kw3am
      @kw3am ปีที่แล้ว

      say what now?

    • @fxracer1860
      @fxracer1860 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did he use railcoining in this vid?

    • @Mr-bw7yi
      @Mr-bw7yi ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well you can shoot your shotgun pellets backwards using the knuckle blaster’s shockwave (shockwave then immediately shoot shotgun).
      Don’t know how useful it is, but it’s there.

  • @Sven-vy5cu
    @Sven-vy5cu ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I relate to the part of not playing fps games at all due to thinking they're all the "same". I'm ashamed to say ultrakill was actually the first proper fps game I got but damn I got really hooked into playing it, thinking about maybe getting into doom one day.

  • @LtSprinkulz
    @LtSprinkulz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your music taste is impeccable in all these vids, and learning you got into ULTRAKILL through DUSK like I did and hearing DUSK's ost throughout this video made me sub.

  • @victornguyen1175
    @victornguyen1175 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm always dumbfounded when people can look at a game like Ultrakill and think it isn't good at first glance. Visually so succinct, movement so pristine, clear thought put into every layered game mechanic, and it's just oozing with style. Always glad to see people change their mind on stuff like this, even if it makes me frustrated knowing others out there are making the same assumptions.

    • @theatheistbear3117
      @theatheistbear3117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I don’t think that the game’s aesthetic is very good, honestly. It looks muddied and like a very layman’s version of what “low polygon” games look like. I low key cannot make out what the enemies do sometimes because of how undefined everything is.
      The lack of peripheral vision, because it isn’t Third-Person, in such a fast-paced game, makes enemy encounters feel unmanageable and the hits that you take come out of left field (partly Skill Issue, partly preference).
      Not to mention that the entire premise and plot is what an emo teenager would think is awesome.
      The game has incredible depth but it has some hurdles that I personally find to lessen the experience. I’d rather play Vanquish again.

  • @AftermathRain
    @AftermathRain ปีที่แล้ว +22

    These thumbnails just keep getting better and better.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @GuntanksInSpace
    @GuntanksInSpace ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Oh god dude I remember that Dusk stream, you learned to parry with the sickles during the boss fight with the Duke Brothers.
    Gotta love this full-circle moment and I dig that you enjoyed Ultrakill! Kickass video!

  • @sniperman-jt7hl
    @sniperman-jt7hl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:43 bro really walked in front of you purely to block that coin shot

  • @Sup3rAJ2
    @Sup3rAJ2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite thing about Ultrakill is just how much nuance there is to the weapons
    Example: The Marksman Revolver
    - Coin reflects bullet, pog
    - You can switch weapons after flicking coin.
    - Coin reflects the railgun laser
    - Coin can go through enemies.
    "hmm."
    - flick coin through enemy, shoot railgun through enemy to hit coin
    *+ULTRARICOSHOT*
    "hmm x2"
    - flick coin into Malicious Face's laser
    *+CHARGEBACK*
    this game is a literal dopamine factory when you pull this stuff off and I love it.

  • @oppenz3723
    @oppenz3723 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crazy how indie game like this actually felt more like a video game instead of a movie or excel spreadsheet simulator.

  • @jongkok2213
    @jongkok2213 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad to see you enjoy ULTRAKILL and cover its emphasis on player expression and enemy manipulation more than most reviews tend to do. It's refreshing to see this from a more action-game focused perspective (as opposed to the numerous FPS-based ones since this is published by New Blood after all).
    I'd list some unique interactions and tech but I'm way too late to the comments section to do that lol, most commenters seem to have covered that already

  • @thegoose8663
    @thegoose8663 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Btw, in Cybergrind the rgb waves center around the last enemy in a wave!

    • @ChaserTech
      @ChaserTech  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      yoo i didn't realize that.

    • @lonelyshpee7873
      @lonelyshpee7873 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've been playing this game for over 200 hours and I had no idea. Thanks.

    • @kveller555
      @kveller555 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Man, I can't believe I didn't know that. I also have over 200 hours lmao.

  • @goldeneye1689
    @goldeneye1689 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude, I'm genuinely glad you're using the full kit of weapons and learning. It's so much of a dopamine rush and you'll need the full kit against the Prime Sanctums along with the joy of learning the patterns of the boss fight. Plus the secret levels are a fun treat! Way better than a certain Mayo's mindset

  • @RapidSilver
    @RapidSilver ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got minor hand tremor, so I had always thought that I would never enjoy FPS like others,
    but Doom Eternal & Ultrakill completely changed my thoughts.

  • @dheatlycruvig7520
    @dheatlycruvig7520 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've seen a lot of youtubers compare this game to other FPS such as Doom. Hell, I know this game from a video titled doom ripoff or smth. While there are some similarities between the two, this game blows all my expectations the second I get into it. And I'm starting to feel like comparing Ultrakill to Doom is really an understatement. So I'm really glad that I found a video that actually compares this game to the source inspiration, that I also try to get into lately because of Ultrakill (lol).

    • @crackaddict1692
      @crackaddict1692 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      People compare it to Doom basically because it is an FPS that takes place in hell. Ultrakill clearly states that it is inspired mainly by Quake rather than Doom (although both have a lot of similarities and also Hakita mentions in the developer museum that Doom Eternal inspired helped him something of the weapons that I cannot remember). Calling it a ripoff of Doom Eternal is of course dumb since it completely lacks the resource management aspect; and while Doom kind of forces you to be optimal and play it smart, Ultrakill tell yo to go absolutely nuts and play however you want to, both of this approaches to gameplay clearly are inspired
      by Devil May Cry. The game is all about being stylish just like the DMC series.
      I’d say that the FPS part of Ultrakill (aside from the clear main focus on using guns) comes downs to the movement mechanics which have just as much importance in gameplay as the weapons mechanics.

    • @MILDMONSTER1234
      @MILDMONSTER1234 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crackaddict1692
      Doom Eternal = Ninja Gaiden
      ULTRAKILL = DMC

  • @Loooore3483
    @Loooore3483 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "You make even the Devil cry!!"

    • @_.ElbEto
      @_.ElbEto ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Foolishness, machine, foolishness"

  • @motoyomakoto7801
    @motoyomakoto7801 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ultrakill is the typa game that allows you to do some hilarious things like beating a boss with punch and parry or even stomping And maybe grabbing them to death with whiplash for 26 minutes straight (someone unironically did this) this just shows the perfection in design of this game being this open to players

  • @emancipationvevo
    @emancipationvevo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As someone with 447 hours in Ultrakill, i should really give DMC a try

  • @nobody7204
    @nobody7204 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way you described the game is EXACTLY how I felt playing Ultrakill for the first time

  • @kavokav
    @kavokav ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg moist so glad you played ultrakill!!!! Love your vids, charlie!!!!!

  • @Dyiad
    @Dyiad ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the things I love about Ultrakill so much is that every time I watch a video compilation of someone showing off, there's always a moment in the video where I go, "Wait, you can do that!?" I've P-ranked every level in this game (with the exception of the Prime Sanctums), and I'm STILL learning new mechanics and tricks.

  • @ReanXAlisa
    @ReanXAlisa ปีที่แล้ว +11

    One of the problems I think when it comes to the whole crayon box analogy is that once again Fromsoft is kind of the source of the problem here but it’s not them really. It’s challenge runs or rather people who are so used to limiting themselves because they now feel bored that they didn’t overly restrain themselves. One of the most limiting factors for people is that first order optimal strategy where the creative nature of a game like DMC, Ultrakill, BOTW/TOTK allow you to take your time to learn, people generally will always fall back to old reliable and that can be a problem topic in and of itself. Some people have gotten off the optimal treadmill but loads of other people are still stuck to it.

    • @ChaserTech
      @ChaserTech  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah a lot of people will focus on the optimal strategy. I bring up the crayon box analogy because you're told to draw something and the person doesn't care what it is, they just want you to draw something. So you do it in order to complete the task. But you're still being graded on how well you're doing in some cases.

    • @lonelyshpee7873
      @lonelyshpee7873 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a shame, because FromSoft games also allow for skill expression to a certain extent

    • @kveller555
      @kveller555 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The silly thing here is that, at least in Ultrakill, playing stylishly IS the optimal strategy. Constantly swapping weapons and setting up combos lets you output a level of damage you just can't reach by spamming the same thing over and over (yes, even Projectile Boosting will be mediocre in certain situations). P% speedruns are a work of art for the same reason.

    • @Thonato420
      @Thonato420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@lonelyshpee7873expression such as making builds you mean? or am i missing something much better

    • @lonelyshpee7873
      @lonelyshpee7873 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Thonato420 No, I mean in terms of gameplay. It's no DMC, but there are ways to style on bosses and there's people like Ongbal who show them off on TH-cam.

  • @pinkduck4782
    @pinkduck4782 ปีที่แล้ว

    bro the under the mayo callout at 12:55 got me rolling

  • @tinierdancer
    @tinierdancer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as a fellow lifelong dmc fan, i had similar preconceptions of ultrakill and BOY was i glad i was wrong, game is freaking awesome. nice video

  • @LethalPlacebo
    @LethalPlacebo ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video, Chaser! I was super pumped when I first played the demo for ULTRAKILL and saw how DMC-inspired it was. It even had Enemy Step! Must have finished it like 5 times. I own the game now, but since it's in Early Access, I thought I may wait a bit until it's pretty much content complete, but after watching this video I just can't wait anymore, gonna dive right in.

  • @heraldofwoe3686
    @heraldofwoe3686 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ah, a Darksiders fan. A rare and endangered species as of late

    • @trustworthyh3ro267
      @trustworthyh3ro267 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      don't worry u ain't alone.
      Darksiders 2 will always be my fav of the games.

    • @heraldofwoe3686
      @heraldofwoe3686 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@trustworthyh3ro267 Despite it's flaws, Ds2 will always be one of my favorite games of all time

  • @mimisaiko
    @mimisaiko 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for sharing this, I can't enjoy FPS either, but now I can appreciate the fun part of these games.

  • @lonearachnid6591
    @lonearachnid6591 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no hate at all to other reviewers, but this is one of the freshest reviews I've seen of ultrakill. relating to past experiences, expectations, talking about what you know best (character action games if im correct) and actually feeling like you're expressing your opinion. many recent reviews are just the same "you can punch the shells" and "coins are new". I think it's important to criticise and appreciate at the same time as well as tell the viewer what your perspective is influenced by. acting non biased is stupid, and acting condescending is even worse

  • @k680B
    @k680B ปีที่แล้ว +1

    glad you enjoyed the game! since you love how weapons interact and since i saw how you have trouble dealing with some enemies here are few tips:
    - 4 coins + charged piercing revolver is essentially mini railcannon with lower cooldown
    - coins will always fly in same pattern, affected only by your velocity and camera angle, but that is consistent too, try creating muscle memory for shooting them
    - if you jump near the wall, try to slam and walljump shortly after, game will put you into weird state where it thinks you're falling for a long time with absurd velocity when you're really not (you can tell if you did that correctly by yellow particles around you), if you jump after landing in that state you will launch yourself into stratosphere, we call that slam storage, especially useful in cybergrind
    - all enemy hitscan attacks (like sentry guns precise shot) can be reflected with a well timed coin, game calls it chargeback on a style meter
    - nailgun is garbage compared to chainsaw launcher (high risk usage, limited use cases), swap both variants immediately after you find it (don't wanna straight up give you the location but i've heard electric druids might know something)
    - you can punch your coins with blue arm, when you do coin will hit nearest enemy, deal damage and launch itself up above the enemy still able to be shot, very cool combo which utilizes that is coin > punch > coin > shot
    - soldiers (blue&white enemy) are immune to all but red explosions, which means only effective explosions against them are nuke and mid-air rocket
    - street cleaners have weak point that instakills them with explosion if you hit it, the easiest way to proc it is to have them run at you, throwing the coin behind them and shooting it
    - use red arm, it not only creates shockwave, but also has (if memory serves) 3x the dmg of blue arm, which oneshots filths and strays and is very strong against all stationary enemies, ideally you want to constantly keep swapping between blue and red arm as you need
    - rocket launcher cannon ball can be shot for explosion, railcannon shot will make it red explosion (which also works on soldiers, i forgor)
    - filths and other weak enemies are annoying and not fun to style on, try getting them in one place and use single explosion to quickly get rid of them, my favorite is overcharged shotgun, speaking of which...
    - if you dash right before shooting overcharged shotgun you will create explosion during your i-frames and not take damage from it, handy in tight spaces
    it's obviously not all, but definitely what i would consider most important and/or easy to learn and remember, have fun in hell

    • @DominatorLater
      @DominatorLater ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd like to say that while I think the attractor variant of the nailgun isn't that good in comparison to its sawblade counterpart, I'd argue the overheat variant of the nailgun is just as good as the sawblade overheat, purely because while the overheat sawblade is immensely good for traps and bouncing off walls in a tight space, the overheat nailgun is probably one of the highest damage dealing weapons that can be used for direct damage in quick bursts

    • @k680B
      @k680B ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@DominatorLater i mean, nailgun is considered weak only because it's not meta in cybergrind, in casual playthrough and outside prime sanctums it's decent enough i guess, and if you really want nailgun in your arsenal then yeah, overheat is better of the two
      however overheat nailgun use cases are very few, only one that comes to my mind is bursting maurices, but i'm positive that 2 pump shotgun + red arm does comparable damage while requiring much less time at close range to execute, if you wanna get that personal with maurice in first place that is
      what i can give to nailgun tho is that it's more fun to use (for me at least), even if suboptimal

    • @jongkok2213
      @jongkok2213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      While the nailgun does seem pretty useless on the surface, outside of speedrunning I very much prefer it over the sawblade launcher for things such as high-wave cybergrind and casual play/freestyle since it allows the player to improvise way more than what the sawblade launcher allows for. In fact, the setup required (which honestly isn't that much in the grand scheme of ULTRAKILL tech) is why I like it so much. Catapulting, Overheat Storage, setting up a crowd of swordsmachines for the Conductor style bonus keeps me using it constantly.
      That and the two heatsinks Overheat provides and the Attractor's higher ammo count make it much more useful in high-wave cybergrind than the sawblade launcher, as the sheer amount of enemies (or a single hideous mass) tend to quickly chew through a sawtrap, whereas you can use the nailguns for much longer in multiple situations.

  • @ivy_magnapinna
    @ivy_magnapinna ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing I really love about this game is that there's basically no skill ceiling. You can practice all the mechanics and discover so much weird and obscure tech to the point where it feels overkill, but the game still rewards players who get that far with stuff like the Prime Sanctums, high Cybergrind waves, and eventually all the custom levels people will be able to put out.
    The enemy and environment design is also perfect, every layer looks unique and the shifts in tone when you go from one to another always feel amazing, and every enemy has a very distinct and memorable design (plus stuff like special visual and sound cues, like the beams that Idols make) that makes an arena full of them surprisingly easy to read.

  • @jeffcarey1776
    @jeffcarey1776 ปีที่แล้ว

    My mind was pumping nothing but pure dopamine when I started playing and then I went to dinner with my family and I was just so jittery with joy from playing ultrakill, and that’s why I think that ultrakill is the best game of all time.

  • @ConsarnitTokkori
    @ConsarnitTokkori ปีที่แล้ว

    the funny thing about this game, that it teaches you from 0-3 onwards (or 0-2 if you found the big secret), is that it runs on troll logic
    so "shotgun shots are projectiles > feedbacker can parry projectiles > feedbacker can parry shotgun shots" and "sharpshooter shots make projectiles go boom > v2's nailgun shoots projectiles > sharpshooter shots make v2's nails go boom" are completely sound trains of thought
    and because the devs are chads, even the unintended ways to style on things get to stay in the game, unless they're completely broken, like that one time the sharpshooter put the obama cube into obamacare
    anyone can do almost anything with any weapon (that isn't the standard piercer or alternate marksman), and the game is built around that freedom (translation: it hard)

  • @WanderingSosuke
    @WanderingSosuke ปีที่แล้ว

    It's interesting to see this through another Action game fan's eyes cause the time I spent I couldn't feel it out. Seeing how you approached it tells me that it has what I seek in action games but I guess it's moreso how it's presented (As an FPS and not Third-Person). Still a fantastic game and I think it'll always be great to go back to. This video did teach me about whiplashing coins and using the railgun on the coins. I do plan on going back to this now that I've seen someone else explain and give off good demonstrations with that "Oh I can relate to that feeling". Overall great video

  • @ikcikor3670
    @ikcikor3670 ปีที่แล้ว

    When railcoining a big enemy, the moment you first shoot an enemy when the coin is behind him causes a freeze-frame (very briefly stops time, it also happens with parries out of other things). This lets you quickly switch back to the revolver and throw another coin once you learn the timing, resulting in the railcannon hitting Enemy > Coin behind > Enemy > Newly thrown coin in front > Enemy

  • @chainbomb
    @chainbomb ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been waiting for this one

  • @chillyhoovy228
    @chillyhoovy228 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    MANKIND IS DEAD
    BLOOD IS FUEL
    HELL IS FULL
    The Cybergrind gives me very positive vibes of the Bloody Palace, but unlike BP, CG is endless (unless you or your pc dies cuz of a billions of enemies on the screen eating your fps) , on the high levels it transforms into pure chaos, which is very challenging, this is where the competitive nature of it truly shines

    • @Thonato420
      @Thonato420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wish cybergrind had bosses like v2 or gabriel, just to make stuff even more chaotic

    • @VaclavRytina
      @VaclavRytina ปีที่แล้ว

      V2 is not programmed for opened areas, he would fall off the map

    • @Thonato420
      @Thonato420 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VaclavRytina oof

  • @awesomefuzz4008
    @awesomefuzz4008 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd highly recommend the ULTRAPAIN mod. As someone who was extremely okayish at Ultrakill (mostly just used alt revolver and occasionally core nuke), it forced me to finally git gud. Also it's extremely well made, retains a solid difficulty curve, and V2 actually uses the Knuckleblaster. I haven't started Act 2 yet (mostly due to just having beaten Act 1 yesterday after railcoining Gabriel to death), but Act 1 was so incredibly fresh that it felt like playing the game for the first time again. You can even extensively customize everything it does in the config, including tweaking any of the enemy stats you want and saving presets of the config, which is a nice touch. Super cool mod, and I'm looking forward to the hell that V2's second fight will be with it on.

  • @billyboleson2830
    @billyboleson2830 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vanquish walked so Ultrakill and Doom could run. Doom Eternal and Ultrakill should be brought up more in the action game discussion bubble not just the usual Bayonetta and Ninja Gaidens.

  • @nolol1388
    @nolol1388 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man’s has yet to find the slab revolver

  • @JagoShogun
    @JagoShogun ปีที่แล้ว

    I love when devs try an unlikely matchup for a hybrid. Also, a practical use for spinning the revolver? Count me in. That's Some Erron Black action.

  • @Rhyflowsarchive
    @Rhyflowsarchive ปีที่แล้ว

    The KnuckleBlaster/Red arm's shockwave can launch coins into the stratosphere and with that you can basically do an orbital nuke with the malicious railcanon.

  • @noxriderash4174
    @noxriderash4174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    somebody needs to send 12:52 to underthemayo so he can cry in his sleep knowing just how goddamn awful his ultrakill critique is

  • @FiveEightyEight
    @FiveEightyEight ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great review!

  • @theknight6382
    @theknight6382 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    By chance have you tried going for all P-Ranks?
    Theres some special levels you can unlock in gluttony and heresy via doing so, has to be the most fun ive had in a fps

    • @ChaserTech
      @ChaserTech  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Working on that now!

    • @RedMistKali
      @RedMistKali ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChaserTech If you're willing to do it, a first time playthrough of the "special levels" would be fun to watch.

  • @Ragnarons
    @Ragnarons ปีที่แล้ว

    After slamming my head against a wall on 1-4 for over 500 attempts clocking at 3 hours+, I learned how to play the game. Thank you V2 Ultrakill, very cool.

  • @vengeancegaming4810
    @vengeancegaming4810 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man it's great to see you broaden your horizons and find enjoyment in other genres. And I'm glad to see you loved Ultrakill as much as the next person. Although I find myself getting jealous when I see others enjoying this game so much. The gameplay just looks absolutely amazing, yet when I hop on the game myself to start learning and experimenting, I just cant seem to stick with it. For some reason Ultrakill is a game that can't seem to hold my attention and that bothers me. It especially weird because I have sunk hundreds of hours into DMC 5 and Doom Eternal, So why can't I stick with a game like ultrakill? Anyway enough of the moping. I love the new approach to your videos, and keep up the stellar work!

  • @KunkyFong
    @KunkyFong ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First video I've seen of yours and I enjoyed it : )
    From what you've said about player expression and movement I really hope you play melee
    Also, fyi, the malicious face doesn't take damage from explosions of any kind : (

    • @ChaserTech
      @ChaserTech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I had a feeling after rewatching my footage lol.
      Also yeah I play melee from time to time. I also used to play Guilty Gear Rev 2 and mained Venom.

  • @beeshot_
    @beeshot_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ultrakill isnt just like a box of crayons, most fps games are a box of crayons, but ultrakill is the same box of crayons except you can use those crayons to create new colors to use

  • @KaroxNightshade
    @KaroxNightshade ปีที่แล้ว

    The slam's shockwave isn't about height, it's whether you're still holding the button by the time you hit the ground.

  • @sesawter4999
    @sesawter4999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    finaly a Devil May Coin flip

  • @MrRukrio1
    @MrRukrio1 ปีที่แล้ว

    i'll add that the main reason railcoining is more effective than simply shooting it with the Revolver or it's variant, is because the Electric Railcannon has *infinite piercing*. as long as you have coins, you can hit the same target again. so in theory you can sit the same motherfucker up to an extra 4 times.
    and the craziest thing is not only is there tech for weapons and how you use them, BUT MOVEMENT AS WELL. from rocket riding directly inspired by your favorite franchise (Word of God/Hakita confirmed, btw) to being able to basically BLJ off a walljump due to a glitch players found that became not just a feature, but canon. you can then transfer the momentum from vertical momentum to *horizontal momentum* by slidehopping instead of simply jumping on landing. Slam Storage (the trick i mentioned) is literally the reason mechanically you don't have a proper rocket jump: Slam Storage outclasses it easily due to only needing a wall. you can still blast jump using Core Eject, the Malicious Railcannon, or hitscanning your own rocket or Core Eject (doing so with Malicious is a Nuke) but that's more of a panic button solution.
    and don't get me started on the fact the coin lets you parry hitscan attacks. Malicious face is a great enemy to practice it on, too.

  • @nitrumlegal7470
    @nitrumlegal7470 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:34 i didnt have any expirience with ultrakill and still i was able to learn it pretty ok

  • @chonkycat841
    @chonkycat841 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:55 I think that Underthemayo actually had a good point here, although he wasn't really the nicest about it and didn't really deliver his suggestions well. If they added ammo in Ultrakill in a way that would not effect you when you're playing "the right way" but still managed to teach and help new players to figure out the most fun way to play this game, it could maybe be more enjoyable for a larger amount of people. Ammo recharging faster the higher your style rank is would be a pretty cool way to implement it.
    But maybe this is the way they wanted to make it, let everyone play the way they want to play. Which option is actually better, I don't know, something like this needs to be tested a lot, which they probably already did.
    Another suggestion that I heard somewhere, don't know who it was from, was to make you right click attacks recharge much faster based on your style rank and have infinite ammo on your left click

    • @jhomathon
      @jhomathon ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn’t really care about his argument that the game should be more challenging to push players to be better, I don’t really agree but I at least understand, but saying the game should have an ammo system would actually be so awful.

    • @ChaserTech
      @ChaserTech  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There's a genre for people who want freedom as well as a genre for people who want direction. I don't think either is bad. Some people are goal oriented while others don't need a reason to explore stuff.
      It all depends on what the devs want honestly. You can't force a person to engage with mechanics if they don't want to follow your rules. Some people want to do whatever they want. Just like you can't force a person to be creative within gameplay.

    • @chonkycat841
      @chonkycat841 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​​​@@ChaserTechWell said. I would prefer it to be more challenging and forcing you to engage more because I know 2 of my friends tried out the game and didn't really figure out the charm of it before they got bored. Their gameplay didn't go far from shooting with the pistol and occasionally doing a projectile boost because it looks cool. I don't know if the game's design is the problem or it just isn't for them, both things are okay. One of them is a DMC fan, we play coop frequently (might even participate in some tournaments together if it is allowed) so I thought he might like the game if he understood what was so special about it.
      But right now, there's still no point in me arguing here since only 2/3 of the game are actually finished, and there are still 2 more difficulties to be unlocked.
      Ultrakill is basically the child of my 2 favourite games. I only want the best for it.

  • @psychologemelone44
    @psychologemelone44 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 things:
    1. A correction: The sharpshooter doesn't get a damage increase from coins anymore. It did when it first launched, but that was so incredibly busted, it was fixed in less then a day as this version of the red revolver has able to shred the hardest bosses in seconds.
    2. A little hint of what is possible with the coin too (I'll put it behind the 'Show more' thing if you don't want to see that)
    Coins can ricochet any hitscan attack. This includes the malicious beam or the sentries shot. Doing this is hard, but it instant kills anything below a malicious face I think and give you the style bonus '+Chargebback'

    • @crackaddict1692
      @crackaddict1692 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can also reflect the Malcannon off of coins since it is hitscan weapon too

    • @psychologemelone44
      @psychologemelone44 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crackaddict1692 yeah, but its not that useful, the best that can do is orbital strikes which only work on open maps or the cybergrind

  • @l.9635
    @l.9635 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:55
    mayo became on very high of this words)
    to be honest, i tend to disagree with this statement, since in most places using different weapons and techs are not just stylish way to play but very useful. enemies will pursue you so hard, especially on higher difficulties, that playing with only revolver will be so much pain. and i love, that your creativity and stylish way to play are awarded by the game itself. doing railcoin, nuke and etc. are both fun and effective

  • @n3y
    @n3y ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you can't give me a box of crayons and expect me to not eat them... come on

    • @n3y
      @n3y ปีที่แล้ว

      also please stop mentioning the jar man, he does not deserve any attention

  • @vul4ak
    @vul4ak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When ULTRAKILL was announced the idea of a stylish shooter was weird to me (in a good way). I've grown up on SP shooters and they were mostly about optimal gameplay, most of the creativity coming from the weapons themselves, rather than the mechanics. For Example - the ASMD shockrifle from Unreal Tournament could fit right into ULTRAKILL, due to the way it has two fire modes that interact with one another. However Ultrakill asked me to be stylish, which is something I've never seen in a shooter of that type. I mean - I've seen trick shot compilations of MW which are their own unique form of "styling" (Yes, a 360 no scope headshot is styling PRECISELY because it's going out of your way to be extra in the kill you deliver, when a simple zoom in and shot can get the same kill result).
    ULTRAKILL however is a weird one, due to the combination it presents: Devil May Quake. Quake, which is for most intents and purposes a very stale game when it comes to what you can do, but a really fun one when you consider its roster of enemies: Ogres with chainsaws that launch grenades that zone you, zombies demanding gibs to die, floating enemies, knights charging you for a melee hit or having a cone attack - etc. On the other side you have DMC - where again, you have different enemies doing different stuff BUT you have different tools of varying degrees of complexity to deal with them - dodging an enemy with a trickster dash is easier than Royal Guarding their attacks, but it's also less rewarding in terms of DT, style points etc.
    Which brings me to the last point.
    I find it weird how Style Meters were introduced as a way to nudge players towards different playstyles without forcing them. Sure, you could play it safe and use only optimal strats but you wouldn't get a high score. Yet nowadays they're seen as a negative precisely BECAUSE they're a soft nudge, rather than a hard one. Yet even DMC has hard nudges itself (at least it used to have them). Take for example the Enigma from DMC3 - everyone hates this enemy precisely because it requires certain moves/weapons to be countered. Same goes for Bloodgoyles which all require the same strat of being turned to stone first via gunfire or punish the player by multiplying if directly hit with melee. I guess high scores and clearing a level with high ranks is simply too Arcadey for modern gaming.

  • @hyperx72
    @hyperx72 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:13 The gameplay is from Assault Spy.

  • @Goge1210
    @Goge1210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which game is the one that appears at 0:14 ? It looks fun

  • @Starlight_8
    @Starlight_8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you tried Metal: Hellsinger Aka if doom was a Rythm game.

  • @meddios
    @meddios ปีที่แล้ว

    13:20 Right? I am 100% straight but because I can tap my homies ass - I will

  • @Bane_Amesta
    @Bane_Amesta 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The idea of using a coin to find a hidden enemy is genius

  • @nevinmyers1245
    @nevinmyers1245 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think ultrakill's default controls actually aren't that good. It might be that there are too many buttons, but a lot are hard to reach, like pressing 5 for the rocket launcher or pressing G to switch arms. I think Hakita expects that players will decide how they want to play and customize their controls accordingly.
    For me, I wanted to make sure there was no skill cap set by my control layout, so I bound switch arm to Q because I don't use the weapon wheel, then I bound railcannon to Z and rocket launcher to X. The furthest I have to reach on my keyboard is to 1, 2, and 3 to access the revolver, shotgun, and nailgun.

  • @Yichh
    @Yichh ปีที่แล้ว

    The thing is with ultrakill, is that although there’s so many mechanics, the average player can easily play the game because all of the guns are powerful on their own. Sure, you can try some tricks, but you never have to go crazy with it if you feel like it’s too hard for you.

  • @lorddarkshadow0
    @lorddarkshadow0 ปีที่แล้ว

    Originally all the weapons would’ve had a 4th Variation (Yellow/Gold) but Hakita scrapped the idea. Curious to see what the those variants would have been like.

  • @JayDayKay
    @JayDayKay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i would love to see a player expression video

  • @cybereon
    @cybereon ปีที่แล้ว

    wait until he finds out you can punch the coins

  • @boyka_playz7278
    @boyka_playz7278 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok i actually might get into first person shooters like i tried playing a few games like call of duty/far cry etc. but i rlly suck at them but i might check them out again and i'll definitely check out ultra kill that game looks rlly fun and good job my guy 🔥vid

  • @noconnection__
    @noconnection__ ปีที่แล้ว

    Ultrakill gave me some insane brainrot and P-Ranked Act I & II including the Prime Sanctums and it feels like a full game already goddamn Hakita

  • @Cephalon-ghost
    @Cephalon-ghost ปีที่แล้ว

    when you complete the game and perfect rank all the levels an find the secrets checkout the credits you will have a completely new outlook on ultrakill

  • @faeyzarafialfakhri2405
    @faeyzarafialfakhri2405 ปีที่แล้ว

    i agree with the default control, but for ultrakill. i had to change the punch button from G to middle mouse button. makes it easier to projectile boost

  • @imarock.7662
    @imarock.7662 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is very needed.
    Explains my exact thoughts on these types of games perfectly.
    (Lets hope UnderTheMayo doesn't see it. Lmao)

  • @platinumwolf526
    @platinumwolf526 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro maxor made me wanna play this game

  • @TheLostSeven
    @TheLostSeven ปีที่แล้ว

    You live streaming any of these sessions? Also very nice to hear your perspective since I've had a more inverse journey. I play DMC 5 casually for a while but didn't really go deeper, then play Ultrakill and got so hooked I've done everything currently available in game. Game was so good I went back into Dmc 3, 4, and 5 just to see how much better I can get. I'm not great but getting better. Either way I'd love to see the primes live if you are doing that!

  • @charleschandrablazinger6515
    @charleschandrablazinger6515 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I enjoy this game due it's crazy challenge.

  • @dahdumbguy
    @dahdumbguy ปีที่แล้ว

    bros in for a treat for p1 and p2

  • @andreipintea9333
    @andreipintea9333 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man tried Dusk and dove into the Michelin star equivalent of shooters nowadays. Gotta respect that. Also, Dusk is the best shooter I've played since Blood in terms of...everything. You should play the original Blood. I have a feeling you'll love it.

  • @Boldcheesecake1029
    @Boldcheesecake1029 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every. Single. Gun. Enemy. Or environment. Has. USE
    The sharpshooter revolver? If you time it right you can oneshot floating heads, since shooting projectiles makes them expload
    Or you can jump over an enemy and shoot downward to hit them multiple times
    Or you can just become a helicopter with a few multiwield powerups
    That is barely scratching ONE VARIANT of ONE GUN
    Also I bet we are going to get a new gun along with alternate versions of every gun (the revolver has a heavy hitting alternate which you can mix and match with different variations, and the nail gun has a saw gun alt which can easily stack up damage on a group or single enemy)
    ULTRAGAMING

  • @mel_6386
    @mel_6386 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's something about Ultrakill that just encourages me to learn more, idk what it is.
    I've almost never felt this much of a reward learning DMC stuff.
    Maybe it's because i primarily play 5 and it doesn't really have a hard campaign.

    • @MILDMONSTER1234
      @MILDMONSTER1234 ปีที่แล้ว

      3 is a much harder game then 5

    • @mel_6386
      @mel_6386 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MILDMONSTER1234 Am aware

  • @reggiereg2064
    @reggiereg2064 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you heard of Shady Knight? It mught be in your alley.

  • @Totally_Not_Eden68
    @Totally_Not_Eden68 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you make a second video for P-1 and P-2? (And the up coming chapters?)

  • @matts2080
    @matts2080 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just got cybergrind highscore and i am pumped

  • @shingshongshamalama
    @shingshongshamalama ปีที่แล้ว

    One word:
    *RAILCOINLASH*

  • @valakemedia
    @valakemedia ปีที่แล้ว

    im stealing the crayon analogy

  • @BennyCocoPop
    @BennyCocoPop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yo will we get an update on how the prime sanctums go? lol

    • @ChaserTech
      @ChaserTech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lool whenever I get to them, I'll definitely update everyone on YT.

  • @MrMadXenomorph
    @MrMadXenomorph ปีที่แล้ว

    You should create a similar video about Turbo Overkill

  • @skulblaka965
    @skulblaka965 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the game featured at 0:14 with Kazama? Looks interesting but I can't dig up any info about it. All my search results just return Tekken, which that doesn't look like.

    • @ChaserTech
      @ChaserTech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Assault Spy

    • @skulblaka965
      @skulblaka965 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChaserTech Thanks! Will check it out

  • @TehNoobiness
    @TehNoobiness ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Having played a bit of Doom Eternal, the thing that stuck out to me about D:E was that it's very call-and-response. There's one, maybe two specific weapons that each enemy very _specifically_ is weak to. This does wonders for the game's readability, but it also makes me feel like I'm playing a very complicated game of Simon Says. This, combined with tight ammo requirements, made D:E feel...overwhelming. If I'm not hitting exactly the right buttons at exactly the right times, I feel like I'm underperforming. And, y'know, I appreciate parts of it--like, the HAR's scope being key to popping weakpoints on a lot of enemies, that's an awesome way to help with the HAR's awkward position in D2016's arsenal. But it's overwhelming.
    Contrast with Ultrakill. No one weapon in Ultrakill's arsenal is *specific* to one enemy. Some interactions are specific to a _set_ of weapons--only hitscan weapons can score headshots or bounce off coins--but it's nowhere near as specific as D:E, which has enemies like the shield grunts, who basically exist to make you save your plasma rifle ammo for them. As a result, Ultrakill _doesn't_ feel overwhelming--because I don't feel like I'm losing out if I fail to answer each enemy with their specific counter. Instead, it feels _empowering,_ because I'm free to choose which of my tools I want to try. I don't _have_ to be optimal.

  • @deadgunslinger8489
    @deadgunslinger8489 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Could you talk about Guilty gear some day? That game is basically dmc but a fighting game

    • @Kelpie9423
      @Kelpie9423 ปีที่แล้ว

      I freaking love xx and xrd. Those games have soo much expression and free will with your decision making

  • @beeshot_
    @beeshot_ ปีที่แล้ว

    if you have yet to do all the secrets 1. do a video on them if you do them i would love to watch that and 2. good luck on Sisyphus

  • @arushamshafeeq9428
    @arushamshafeeq9428 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favourite thing about ultra kill is hit bullet to make bullet stronger

  • @hebonky
    @hebonky ปีที่แล้ว

    Note that the current marksman revolver is nerfed... it used to be fucking ridiculous, like replace the railgun ridiculous.

  • @bananaspice1967
    @bananaspice1967 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When are we getting devil may smile