My grandmother ,my father's mother, was Topolyon. They lived in Pocono Summit, Pa in the early 1900's. My father was born in 1925. When they got married, the priest asked them their names. My grandmother said Mari Topolyon because she didn't understand English very well and just wanted to be married to my grandfather. So the marriage certificate was recorded with the names: Michael Freach & Mari Topolyon
Dude! That accent! I lived in PA so long I didnt realize just what a pronounced (strong) accent it was! Thanks for the interesting info! I have been thinking about the Shawnee people, and didnt realize they had a presence in Northern West Virginia (LOL western PA)!
Haha! I grew up in Philadelphia area & when I moved to NYC, people often commented on my accent! "Where are YOU from?!" ? What? Huh?! In contrast to a New Yorker (Long Island) accent, I had NO idea I had an accent! I literally took Elocution Lessons to "neutralize" the sound of words like Water, Cherry, Banana & similar. I went on to live in NYC for 25+more years and no longer have any accent at all. Now Family Reunions always remind me of what I USED to sound like ! wow.
I don't know where this guy got his information from, but it wasn't historical. The Shawnee did not become the Cherokee. And the Leni Lenape traded for iron trade goods from the first settlers, and their houses were called wigwams not wikiups. Wikiups are further west. Those are the most glaring inaccuracies. I could go on but it would take too long.
It is a little out of your area, geographically, but I think it would be interesting to hear from you about Shingas, George Washington, and Captain Jacob.
Additional info: some natives stayed and tried to assimilate. Some native young women were essentially traded for land, as there was an excess of lonely European bachelors who needed wives to grown their families. Keep in mind that the Delaware peoples were matrilineal and I can only imagine the trauma that must have occurred in these situations. My family is a branch of one of those, unfortunately.
So being married to a farmer is worse than being married to a stone age primitive that practiced cannibalism and loved to torture people to death in the most gruesome ways imaginable? Also, weren't indian males extremely lazy and made indian females do all the work? The only work the white man would have made her do is care for the children, cook and clean.
I understand why the natives disappeared. My question is, where did they come from? Was it originally one tribe? Over time, families left and started their own tribes?
I wish you had posted a Map (leaving it on longer) while you're lecturing to correlate your Info with a Visual Support. It also gives us time to really read the Names of these Tribes & associated Location. It's also challenging to remain watching a Person speak for a long length of time. Even finding a Picture in a colorful Book would be far more helpful to just SEE what you're speaking about vs. trying to create the visual based on your Description. It's sort of a "Why describe when one can just look?" sort of thing. People all learn differently - I've always found it easier to RETAIN Info when there is some form of Visual Support. Just a suggestion to enhance the Learning as the Information is great. Thank you.
Most of the native tribes in western PA were forced into onto reservations out in the Western part of America. Of course some stayed back and integrated into Colonial America but they would have likely had children with white or black people, and distinctiveness would have largely been lost over the past few hundred years.
All muskets were smooth bore back then 😂 you need a class on western PA history, you do not need to be teaching one. As other have stated there's many other inaccuracies in this video but too many to mention
Exactly! That's the difference between muskets and rifles! Muskets = smoothbores, rifles=rifling that catches the patch, in turn spinning the lead ball, creating faster velocity and much better accuracy! I have a war department letter between General Anthony Wayne and War Secretary Henry Knox about an incident involving my 4th great uncle, Captain Richard "Shawtunte" Sparks. He was taken by the Shawnee during Pontiacs uprising in 1760 from near his parent's cabin on the Youghigheny River near Pittsburgh at age 3, being forcibly repatriated to the whites after his adoptive father's (Pukshinwah, also father of Tecumseh) death at the battle of Point Pleasant in Lord Dunsmores war. He was a warrior among the Shawnee before he served under General Anthony Wayne. This letter, in the 1790's, was about an incident that happened at the Beaver Blockhouse. General Wayne reported that a hostile appeared some 400 yards distant. Captain Sparks raised his rifle and fired, the results were not good for the savage!! So, a documented 400 yard sniper shot with a Flintlock rifle!!!
Why should indians today feel guilty for the fact that their ancestors were vicious savages that loved to burn people alive? Also, just because their ancestors were cannibals doesn't mean they should feel guilty.
You need to know something Ohio was the homeland of the Shawnee tribe Tecumseh never signed a treaty never omg You are wrong Shawnee never ever became Cherokee 🤬 Cherokee converted to white mans way shame on you for not having the stories straight
My grandmother ,my father's mother, was Topolyon. They lived in Pocono Summit, Pa in the early 1900's. My father was born in 1925.
When they got married, the priest asked them their names. My grandmother said Mari Topolyon because she didn't understand English very well and just wanted to be married to my grandfather. So the marriage certificate was recorded with the names:
Michael Freach & Mari Topolyon
Long Houses were not Plains tribes. They were Eastern Woodland Haudenosaunee (Six Nations)
Love this stuff.!!
good info!
Thanks for a fair rendition of the past! I learned a lot too.
Dude! That accent! I lived in PA so long I didnt realize just what a pronounced (strong) accent it was! Thanks for the interesting info! I have been thinking about the Shawnee people, and didnt realize they had a presence in Northern West Virginia (LOL western PA)!
Haha! I grew up in Philadelphia area & when I moved to NYC, people often commented on my accent! "Where are YOU from?!" ? What? Huh?!
In contrast to a New Yorker (Long Island) accent, I had NO idea I had an accent! I literally took Elocution Lessons to "neutralize" the sound of words like Water, Cherry, Banana & similar. I went on to live in NYC for 25+more years and no longer have any accent at all.
Now Family Reunions always remind me of what I USED to sound like ! wow.
There is no western PA accent that really noticeable
I don't know where this guy got his information from, but it wasn't historical. The Shawnee did not become the Cherokee. And the Leni Lenape traded for iron trade goods from the first settlers, and their houses were called wigwams not wikiups. Wikiups are further west. Those are the most glaring inaccuracies. I could go on but it would take too long.
Well done
It is a little out of your area, geographically, but I think it would be interesting to hear from you about Shingas, George Washington, and Captain Jacob.
Good stuff. Been thinking about trying to walk the whole length of the great shamokin path from Sunbury to Kitanning
Additional info: some natives stayed and tried to assimilate. Some native young women were essentially traded for land, as there was an excess of lonely European bachelors who needed wives to grown their families. Keep in mind that the Delaware peoples were matrilineal and I can only imagine the trauma that must have occurred in these situations. My family is a branch of one of those, unfortunately.
So being married to a farmer is worse than being married to a stone age primitive that practiced cannibalism and loved to torture people to death in the most gruesome ways imaginable? Also, weren't indian males extremely lazy and made indian females do all the work? The only work the white man would have made her do is care for the children, cook and clean.
Well, I do thank you for putting this together and uploading it. Whether or not, there are some historical inaccuracies as some people claim. 👍
Yes
I kayak'd on the delaware river this summer, good to know some of the history of where I grew up :)
This boy doesn’t know 😂😂😂
I wish we had more on Indians of western Pennsylvania. Pittsburgh Pennsylvania
My question is where are all these tribes today?
The Shawnee NEVER became the Cherokee!!! EVER!! GET your facts straight!!
You are correct I am Shawnee and we never became Cherokee Shawnee was a strong tribe we still are
Washington, PA was originally called Catfish City.
I understand why the natives disappeared. My question is, where did they come from? Was it originally one tribe? Over time, families left and started their own tribes?
He just doesn’t know 😂😂
I wish you had posted a Map (leaving it on longer) while you're lecturing to correlate your Info with a Visual Support. It also gives us time to really read the Names of these Tribes & associated Location.
It's also challenging to remain watching a Person speak for a long length of time. Even finding a Picture in a colorful Book would be far more helpful to just SEE what you're speaking about vs. trying to create the visual based on your Description. It's sort of a "Why describe when one can just look?" sort of thing. People all learn differently - I've always found it easier to RETAIN Info when there is some form of Visual Support.
Just a suggestion to enhance the Learning as the Information is great. Thank you.
Omg 😱
Are there any Natives still living there?
Most of the native tribes in western PA were forced into onto reservations out in the Western part of America. Of course some stayed back and integrated into Colonial America but they would have likely had children with white or black people, and distinctiveness would have largely been lost over the past few hundred years.
Plains Indians didn't live in long houses
I. Collect indian artifacts. Delaware River.
Effigies.Axes. celts .
As an indigenous man this guy got so much wrong he shouldn’t be aloud to make 𝑨𝑵𝒀 content that is referring to history.
Why don’t you enlighten him instead if acting line an Ahole about it
Agree to many stories told about different tribes that don’t have any idea because they were told wrong
Agree to many stories told about different tribes that don’t have any idea because they were told wrong
Agreed
Basically your saying the native tribes were pushed out by superior forces.
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All muskets were smooth bore back then 😂 you need a class on western PA history, you do not need to be teaching one. As other have stated there's many other inaccuracies in this video but too many to mention
Exactly! That's the difference between muskets and rifles! Muskets = smoothbores, rifles=rifling that catches the patch, in turn spinning the lead ball, creating faster velocity and much better accuracy! I have a war department letter between General Anthony Wayne and War Secretary Henry Knox about an incident involving my 4th great uncle, Captain Richard "Shawtunte" Sparks. He was taken by the Shawnee during Pontiacs uprising in 1760 from near his parent's cabin on the Youghigheny River near Pittsburgh at age 3, being forcibly repatriated to the whites after his adoptive father's (Pukshinwah, also father of Tecumseh) death at the battle of Point Pleasant in Lord Dunsmores war. He was a warrior among the Shawnee before he served under General Anthony Wayne. This letter, in the 1790's, was about an incident that happened at the Beaver Blockhouse. General Wayne reported that a hostile appeared some 400 yards distant. Captain Sparks raised his rifle and fired, the results were not good for the savage!! So, a documented 400 yard sniper shot with a Flintlock rifle!!!
Shameful isn't it? That guilt hides and stays in the blood.
Why should indians today feel guilty for the fact that their ancestors were vicious savages that loved to burn people alive? Also, just because their ancestors were cannibals doesn't mean they should feel guilty.
Fort palmer kid killing
Think how many dragons they killed over the flood years ago
Are you crazy
Lol.
You need to know something Ohio was the homeland of the Shawnee tribe Tecumseh never signed a treaty never omg You are wrong Shawnee never ever became Cherokee 🤬 Cherokee converted to white mans way shame on you for not having the stories straight
Native American is a 1976 term bro Native is a a foreign born subject💯🧐
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