Excellent documentary. I was fortunate enough to have worked as a field archaeologist on the Minnesota Statewide Archaeological Survey in the 1970's and early '80's. It's amazing how far the science has progressed in the last forty years.
Very informative! I’ve lived here my entire life of 60yrs and I learned things I’ve never heard of before. I didn’t realize there is no physical evidence that early Nordic people lived here. I was aware that early inhabitants were the Indian people, but was unaware of their extensive range in the state. I love living in Minnesota; except the Jan.-March temperatures; and do not have plans on moving.
I do know that if the Nordics were indeed there the native people would have erased their camps and toppled their stones, graves and any evidence of their presence after they had left. This was a custom among tribes in where native people believed that you should return the land to the state it was in prior to human use. So you would probably never find any evidence of Nordics.
Hears the deal I have seen things that prove it was not just the natives. Archeology notoriously stuffs everything into their peredime. We just don't know and much has been covered up what of oak island and the Kensington stone that is not settled and could even connect to the language or alphabet found on oak island the have found viking artifacts. 😊
@susanaune2770 Why do you hang on to the myth that Europeans were there at that time when there is overwhelming lack of evidence to support that idea. Be careful, there is an embedded view amongst some
The indigenous people moved into these areas after the glaciers retreated along with wildlife. All many years before the Europeans came to this continent. This makes for a very interesting situation with understanding the cultures and behavior's of the communities and the people. One amazing point of interest i thought as a kid growing up in Illinois was the communities lived close tho the land and left some artifacts but no pollution. All recycled back to mother earth.
Excellent video. We have a very nice burial mound here in Pope County next to Lake Minnewaska. Parts of it were excavated in the late 19th century, but they definitely missed a lot, which is a good thing. Honestly, I have always believed that there are likely many more burials in the area of that mound, and also elsewhere here in Pope County. It is easy to see how water and waterways, were so very important to the Dakota and other tribes. I would think that using LIDAR near the mound and generally, all over Pope County, might bring to light some other interesting surprises. I also believe there may have been mounds at, or near Lake Koronis, in Kandiyohi County, as well. Those ones may have been plowed into oblivion, unfortunately, though the outline of them should still be visible via LIDAR. These are just my own observations, from studying the lay of the land and having a very good knowledge of history, which I have always been most interested in. As far the Runestone in Alex goes, I would have to be 100 percent sure, before I made any true decision. We all assume it is a fake, but have any real studies been done on it, key word being 'real'? No one talks about that, it seems. 99.9 percent sure is close, but I think we need to be 100 percent sure. I pretty much do believe that it is a pseudo-artefact, but with something as important as that, I think you need to be 100 percent. It's great to see archaeologists out in the field, working to uncover the history of Minnesota, and the people who inhabit it. Thank you! Our own Minnesota Time Team!
Cortrichards. As one archeologist in the video mentioned, there have been no viking sites discovered in Minnesota. I believe it's possible that Icelandic or other Scandinavian mariners found North America. Groups might have hunted and explored in Canada. But it doesn't seem any of them stayed. Possibly in very small numbers.
@@helenhunter4540 I agree Helen. I think there is a great possibility that the Vikings did indeed visit what is now Minnesota and surrounding states and provinces. In very small numbers, yes. I think you're correct about that. I hope that some day, important evidence will indeed be found of Viking visits to our area. I have heard of certain artefacts being found in North Dakota, Manitoba and Minnesota, but you never see photos of them or any other evidence of their true existence. I would love to see that change. Thanks for your reply and have a great day, Helen.
I think you are right on about the Ruin Stone. They use nano technology, and microscopic analysis that is amazing that would solve the mystery. Why would the Vikings be totally dependent on their boats and not explore inland areas? They weren't that stupid. Why would they travel the ocean and meet major undiscovered lands, park their boats, and not be curious enough to venture inland? Maybe they were plunderers and not being friendly to the native people so maybe that held them back, but it doesn't mean that some might have ventured far inland.
Very Informative I learned bit more info from this put the big picture together what was happening in this area. I live along the Minnesota Ontario border.
The Kensington stone is a land claim,it never mentions a "settlement".Scott Wolters,a forensic geologist,ha's proven the patina of the stone is consistent with it's long term burial.
When I was a child there were no signs or fences and a steep worn 11:13 dirt path right down the middle from the top of one mound to the top of the other. As a four year old my parents occasionally drove to Mounds Park in the evening after work and I was encouraged to run up and down this path to burn off some of my apartment kid energy. No disrespect, just a Minnesota hill and a little girl.
This is perfect. I wish I could watch hundreds of docs like this, like I can about archaeology in the UK. We’re not interested in our country’s ancient past because it’s not “our” past and Narive Americans don’t count. It makes me mad.
First Nation People (native american) need to spend more time taking care of their own kids... Fact: 13 percent of the kids in So Dakota are native american... Fact: over 70 percent of the kids in the Foster System are native american... white families in Rapid City and Sioux Falls, So Dakota take care of the native american Foster Kids... grandmother's on the reservations have 13-14 kids under her roofs... sacred this and sacred that... apparently the kids aren't important... preach your hurt feelings to some 'dead beat dad' or his baby's momma. I'm 12.5 percent native american
@@districtattorney-f7q Staggering facts. How much do poverty, lack of respect for the nation’s from western society/government & the lack of cultural knowledge due to imposed “whitefication” for generations, play into situations that lead to a bad understanding of child welfare? Stacking sandbags for the flooding doesn’t fix the dam leaking, that’s causing the flooding.
I agree. Having binged on British archaeology during covid, I see parallels in ancient constructions of stone and earth. Much is left here in the US to wonder at without digging. Thankfully, the digging up of graveyards is being recognized as disrespectful. There are youtubers documenting ancient ruins in a respectful manner.
@@districtattorney-f7q im sure generations of genocide, forced movement, conflict, and purposely inflicted poverty have nothing to do with situations like these 🙄 i get that there is personal responsibility that lies in people, but you also show no accounting for the past harm that has caused many problems now
very good program, I very much enjoy the study of the mound building peoples, there where this was filmed on down to my neck of the woods in northeast Texas and the Caddo sites.
I wish we left the ancestors sleep in peace instead of disturbing them and all the artifacts should be returned to the burial it’s isn’t our right to be there and we need to removed that park it’s not a park it’s a sacred place to honor and protect those who came before us. I’m saddened by the disrespect to the first people of this land and hope for peace and understanding in the future
I think there is a huge difference between archaeology and looting. Maybe a modified Archaeology where artifacts are returned, but the reason (19:00) research potential plummeted and (21:00) they found that some of the burial mounds were family burial mounds and they show some of the artifacts that could be returned but that is an example of major knowledge that would have otherwise never been known without Archaeology. They should concur with native Archaeologists in Mexico. I met native Archaeologists when I was in Mexico and they are highly respected. They should allow native archaeologists from Mexico to come to Minnesota and be mediators to coming to a middle ground. In Mexico it is not at all uncommon to find native peoples achieving degrees with pride in Archaeology. With modern Archaeology they have made great leaps in the information they can gather of the past of humanity and the many secrets that are otherwise lost. It's funny too at the end of this they have Muzak while they show the credits ha!
In my opinion this is not a very good explanation why the Vikings were not here. I’m sure they were able to get out of their boats and explore just like the French and Spanish did in the 1500s. How did they get to the Midwest? And the waterfall theory would make sense but there’s also the large Mississippi River that only has 1 waterfall on the whole stretch of river. I would find it hard to believe that no other culture traveled here before dated history. There might not have been many but there were most likely a few small exploration groups. It was good informative history of the native burial mound builders though.
Agreed. The footprints at white sands dating to 23,000 years old prove it. We've been in the America's well before clovis, and these archeologists refuse to change their dated thinking.
@@ryanhighberg4662 who is "we", if you are talking about Scandinavians, 23,000 years ago Scandinavia would have been covered in ice. And if you are talking Vikings in particular, then the White Sands foot prints are approximately 22,000 years older than the Vikings era
@@ryanhighberg4662 i agree with you at a species level. And im not making it a racial argument, just thought you were trying to correlate white sands footprints to the Vikings, as you were replying to a post about the Vikings.
@-JohnnyK I respect the honest reply. By no means would I fully support the narrative of the eastern midwest being populated by Nordics. But yes, i do believe that our species has a very long history in the America's. The evidence is overwhelming, and the evidence of cataclysmic events in North America show why clovis disappeared. What an incredible time to be alive while we watch our history be rewritin through our tech advancements.
I'm a euro-usa-an. The Indians today should be in charge of Indian archeology everywhere in this country. We euro-descended people need to let go our control of many things, government included.
So these guys don’t know about Scott Woltier proving the runestone is genuine or is this just super old? Let’s do our best to put out accurate information please.
@@Maskedminnesota Don’t take my word for it. Go watch Wolters’ episode about Michigan copper and see if you can spot the massive bait and switch. He’s a fraud.
If the native Americans living in Minnesota descended from the hopewellians why did they lose technology and change the way they buried their dead. The Hopewells smelted metal the Lakota did not. This only leaves me with more questions.
Isn't it somewhat racist to say that all remains found are the ancestors of the current recognized tribes? It's a little like saying that because I have Irish ancestry, all the graves in Ireland are sacred to me. I'm sure I'm missing something here, but it doesn't add up for me.
There is some great information here but there is also some information that is far from even being good information, such as the claim that the Kensington Runestone is a fake. Scott Wolter proved that it is a legitimate Norse artifact. It was a land claim and has nothing to do with the location of a settlement. Explorers did not build settlements which would be places of long term use, but they did however have short term encampments which would be much less likely to be able to be located unless the same site was repeatedly used which is unlikely for explorers. Also, these archeologists make it sound like burial mounds do not exist in areas such as in the Minnesota Arrowhead region. I know for a fact they do exist in the border country and the location of them is safe because I can count on 1 hand the total number of people who know the location and it will be kept that way so they are not disturbed. Some things are best left alone..
There is a recording of the men who created the Kensington Runestone. I heard it in the 70’s. They laughed and joked about their secret. Russell Fridley was the director then and he played it for the employees in the Dept. Of Archaeology at Fort Snelling.
Who built the North American mounds is the question. Some of these mounds are made with enough dirt to bury football fields dozens of feet deep. How? These people are relayed to us as hunter gatherers. Their every waking hour would be engaged in surviving chasing game and collecting/foraging. They just dropped that to build these massive mounds? We know nothing of past humans though archeologists will stand on a hill and die saying they do. You do not. You just know how to say what your funders want you to say.
This production underlines one reason I'm reticent to be buried in a cemetery when the time comes, vs cremation. Who knows who will be putting up condos here a thousand years from now? I'd probably end up as back-fill.
To be honest here…due to native migration over the last few millennia, the pictured natives in this video weren’t at all related to the to the said mound builders…considering they are from western tribes. Might be wrong here but I don’t think so…most of the Hopeweillian culture was east of the Mississippi River. Saint Paul native for 54 years
Um... Great info. Except, you are discounting any vikings here because of WATERFALLS. Learn some European history. Vikings took their boats out of the water to stage attacks and explore. I'm not discounting 99.999999% of archeological sites in Minnesota are native American. But give a better excuse than WATERFALLS.😂
Scott Anfinson is completely ignorant of Norse-Scandinavian history of the 'Viking Age': he needs to go take a couple classes and learn what those people did with their boats! They dragged their boats MANY places, and totally could have dragged their boats to Kensington! and by the way NOBODY says they EVER did that! There's plenty of ways for them to have 'stayed in the water' and made very few manageable portages, and made it to a waterway, bringing them to what is now Minnesota, be it just Lake Superior, or the Rainy River, or even possible to have sailed to Hudson's Bay, rowed up the Nelson River; get to Lake Winnepeg, then row up the Red River into the Bois de Sioux, and row east out of Lake Traverse...that can get you to within 40 miles of Kensington, just 2 or 3 days on foot! (Which actually sounds about right!And, remember, science tells us that the climate was a bit different, then, and so were some of the twists and turns of the Red River), and there's no reason they could not have switched over to canoes, at some later point, and most importantly, no one said these were reasonable people! The people getting in those boats were a lot of tough men, and often pretty big ones! Just as many other people did, it would not be hard to believe that they got the idea that there was some place to go, where they were going to find all the gold and silver they could imagine (and, actually, as it turns out: that was true! It's just that it was much farther away than they could ever have imagined!)...Or that there was an easier way to China, but they got lost! NOONE said these guys really knew where they were when they died! It makes more sense than what DeSoto did, and we know DeSoto did it! Sadly, he wasted his life, dying fairly young, because of a bad translator; searching for the everlasting fountain (or spring that never ran dry), which could certainly be a lifesaver, in many places, but, somehow, he got the idea that it was not the fountain that was Everlasting but the life that would be Everlasting, and he threw away his life in pursuit of it! Far less reasonable than some gold hungry Vikings trudging halfway across Minnesota (which was a lot of work in those days), but they were used to that sort of thing, in that kind of environment, and knew how to handle it, until they offended, or posed a threat to, the wrong locals! I refuse to call such an ignorant man as Anfinson 'Doctor', and not going to bother to look up his CV, whether he's gotten some scrap paper, or not! Because he was arrogant and ignorant and insulting in this video, thus violating the terms that I had to agree to when I posted this! It took a long time for TPT producers to disappoint, but they finally did! I can't tell you what kind of hole Scott Anfinson is looking through! This is copyrighted 2020, but, from the the way some of them talk, it sounds more like 1980! I guess I will go edit my list of bequests!
Not saying I'm a true believer in the Kensington Rune Stone, more like totally interested in everything regarding MN archaeology. I find it striking that it even needed to be addressed here. And that makes me wonder about the people who were interviewed, most likely establishment archaeologists who got their positions by sticking to the mainstream narrative. Because if you don't, your career can be threatened. The mainstream in archaeology has been responsible for many mistaken conclusions, for instance the Clovis first hypothesis. And if you went against that it could threaten your entire career. Now we know the Clovis peoples weren't the first in N. America. But how many careers were ruined by questioning the mainstream belief that the Americas were peopled no earlier than 12,000 years ago? Sometimes you have to wait for some old curmudgeon to die before real progress can be made in archaeology. So here we are hearing from the establishment "the truth" about Minnesota's archaeology. Not saying they're wrong. But extreme skepticism needs to be applied to all claims to "the truth".
The Smithsonian. Destroyers and concealers of Americas great archaeological sites. The mainstream story of archaeology is dead. The internet opened up knowledge to people beyond the control of “academics “.
My family and I dealt with the Smithsonian concerning a particular artifact we found back in the 1970s. We actually had a great experience with them. They had us send photos, and an explanation of where we found it. They sent back their historian's opinion on its origin and offered to buy it from us.
They don't know anything about the history of the Kensington stone. The man who found it was clearing land to plant. His son saw it first and they got it out from the roots on the tree. He was a hard working farmer who had no motivation to forge anything, nor did he have time to waste on that. And no one claimed there was a "settlement" of Vikings there - the stone said they were exploring, and after some of them died or were killed, they left. And yes, you can carry boats overland if they're the kind for exploring because they're smaller vessels. A group of men could have easily carried it. He never bragged about the stone or tried to make a big deal of it. Someone in town asked if they could display it in the Post Office or something, and he let them, and that's when the critics started pouring in and tormenting his family. It's shameful the way the presenters of this program just say it's a lie when they obviously know nothing about it.
My guess about the mounds is they put their abodes on them, raised above the mosquito zone- Zika, milaria, & Cholera. 100% believe Zika caused Central American city abandonment. Mother's of sickly babies left the bad place & the men had to follow or have no wives.
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Excellent documentary. I was fortunate enough to have worked as a field archaeologist on the Minnesota Statewide Archaeological Survey in the 1970's and early '80's. It's amazing how far the science has progressed in the last forty years.
Under Alan Woolworth?
Yeah? Do you think the rune stone is a fake? It can’t be. The dotted R proves its authentic.
I'm glad we are learning about respect, maybe it's not too late. I loved this.🥰
Very informative! I’ve lived here my entire life of 60yrs and I learned things I’ve never heard of before. I didn’t realize there is no physical evidence that early Nordic people lived here. I was aware that early inhabitants were the Indian people, but was unaware of their extensive range in the state. I love living in Minnesota; except the Jan.-March temperatures; and do not have plans on moving.
Ditto of 54 years
I do know that if the Nordics were indeed there the native people would have erased their camps and toppled their stones, graves and any evidence of their presence after they had left.
This was a custom among tribes in where native people believed that you should return the land to the state it was in prior to human use.
So you would probably never find any evidence of Nordics.
Hears the deal I have seen things that prove it was not just the natives. Archeology notoriously stuffs everything into their peredime. We just don't know and much has been covered up what of oak island and the Kensington stone that is not settled and could even connect to the language or alphabet found on oak island the have found viking artifacts. 😊
@susanaune2770 Why do you hang on to the myth that Europeans were there at that time when there is overwhelming lack of evidence to support that idea. Be careful, there is an embedded view amongst some
More of these archaeological shows please lol. I’m completely fascinated by the American continent and its history before it was “discovered”.
The indigenous people moved into these areas after the glaciers retreated along with wildlife. All many years before the Europeans came to this continent. This makes for a very interesting situation with understanding the cultures and behavior's of the communities and the people. One amazing point of interest i thought as a kid growing up in Illinois was the communities lived close tho the land and left some artifacts but no pollution. All recycled back to mother earth.
Nicely done, Minnesota!
Some of these things are still enduring today and that's a symbol of...their endurance
Thanks!
This was really well produced!
Excellent video. We have a very nice burial mound here in Pope County next to Lake Minnewaska. Parts of it were excavated in the late 19th century, but they definitely missed a lot, which is a good thing. Honestly, I have always believed that there are likely many more burials in the area of that mound, and also elsewhere here in Pope County. It is easy to see how water and waterways, were so very important to the Dakota and other tribes. I would think that using LIDAR near the mound and generally, all over Pope County, might bring to light some other interesting surprises. I also believe there may have been mounds at, or near Lake Koronis, in Kandiyohi County, as well. Those ones may have been plowed into oblivion, unfortunately, though the outline of them should still be visible via LIDAR. These are just my own observations, from studying the lay of the land and having a very good knowledge of history, which I have always been most interested in. As far the Runestone in Alex goes, I would have to be 100 percent sure, before I made any true decision. We all assume it is a fake, but have any real studies been done on it, key word being 'real'? No one talks about that, it seems. 99.9 percent sure is close, but I think we need to be 100 percent sure. I pretty much do believe that it is a pseudo-artefact, but with something as important as that, I think you need to be 100 percent. It's great to see archaeologists out in the field, working to uncover the history of Minnesota, and the people who inhabit it. Thank you! Our own Minnesota Time Team!
Hello from a former resident of Glenwood!!
@@kathleenmartin7498 Hello Kathleen, from the ghost town of Terrace, in Pope County!
Cortrichards. As one archeologist in the video mentioned, there have been no viking sites discovered in Minnesota.
I believe it's possible that Icelandic or other Scandinavian mariners found North America. Groups might have hunted and explored in Canada. But it doesn't seem any of them stayed. Possibly in very small numbers.
@@helenhunter4540 I agree Helen. I think there is a great possibility that the Vikings did indeed visit what is now Minnesota and surrounding states and provinces. In very small numbers, yes. I think you're correct about that. I hope that some day, important evidence will indeed be found of Viking visits to our area. I have heard of certain artefacts being found in North Dakota, Manitoba and Minnesota, but you never see photos of them or any other evidence of their true existence. I would love to see that change. Thanks for your reply and have a great day, Helen.
I think you are right on about the Ruin Stone. They use nano technology, and microscopic analysis that is amazing that would solve the mystery. Why would the Vikings be totally dependent on their boats and not explore inland areas? They weren't that stupid. Why would they travel the ocean and meet major undiscovered lands, park their boats, and not be curious enough to venture inland? Maybe they were plunderers and not being friendly to the native people so maybe that held them back, but it doesn't mean that some might have ventured far inland.
Appreciate these educational videos
Very Informative I learned bit more info from this put the big picture together what was happening in this area.
I live along the Minnesota Ontario border.
The Kensington stone is a land claim,it never mentions a "settlement".Scott Wolters,a forensic geologist,ha's proven the patina of the stone is consistent with it's long term burial.
Problem is, Wolters is a fraud.
Yea, or an prank from an old farmer.
When I was a child there were no signs or fences and a steep worn 11:13 dirt path right down the middle from the top of one mound to the top of the other. As a four year old my parents occasionally drove to Mounds Park in the evening after work and I was encouraged to run up and down this path to burn off some of my apartment kid energy. No disrespect, just a Minnesota hill and a little girl.
Thank you
This is perfect. I wish I could watch hundreds of docs like this, like I can about archaeology in the UK. We’re not interested in our country’s ancient past because it’s not “our” past and Narive Americans don’t count. It makes me mad.
First Nation People
(native american)
need to spend more time taking care of their own kids...
Fact: 13 percent of the kids in So Dakota are native american...
Fact: over 70 percent of the kids in the Foster System are native american...
white families in Rapid City and Sioux Falls, So Dakota take care of the native american Foster Kids...
grandmother's on the reservations have 13-14 kids under her roofs...
sacred this and sacred that...
apparently the kids aren't important...
preach your hurt feelings to some
'dead beat dad' or his baby's momma.
I'm 12.5 percent native american
@@districtattorney-f7q Staggering facts. How much do poverty, lack of respect for the nation’s from western society/government & the lack of cultural knowledge due to imposed “whitefication” for generations, play into situations that lead to a bad understanding of child welfare?
Stacking sandbags for the flooding doesn’t fix the dam leaking, that’s causing the flooding.
I agree. Having binged on British archaeology during covid, I see parallels in ancient constructions of stone and earth. Much is left here in the US to wonder at without digging. Thankfully, the digging up of graveyards is being recognized as disrespectful. There are youtubers documenting ancient ruins in a respectful manner.
@@districtattorney-f7q im sure generations of genocide, forced movement, conflict, and purposely inflicted poverty have nothing to do with situations like these 🙄 i get that there is personal responsibility that lies in people, but you also show no accounting for the past harm that has caused many problems now
would you feel better if every hard working taxpayer gave more money to
First Nation people to buy more alcohol and illegal drugs?@@hueleb1cho
very good program, I very much enjoy the study of the mound building peoples, there where this was filmed on down to my neck of the woods in northeast Texas and the Caddo sites.
Thank you!
The people buried in the mounds are the ancestors of those living there today, the living people are the descendants of those buried in the mounds.
I wish we left the ancestors sleep in peace instead of disturbing them and all the artifacts should be returned to the burial it’s isn’t our right to be there and we need to removed that park it’s not a park it’s a sacred place to honor and protect those who came before us. I’m saddened by the disrespect to the first people of this land and hope for peace and understanding in the future
I think there is a huge difference between archaeology and looting. Maybe a modified Archaeology where artifacts are returned, but the reason (19:00) research potential plummeted and (21:00) they found that some of the burial mounds were family burial mounds and they show some of the artifacts that could be returned but that is an example of major knowledge that would have otherwise never been known without Archaeology. They should concur with native Archaeologists in Mexico. I met native Archaeologists when I was in Mexico and they are highly respected. They should allow native archaeologists from Mexico to come to Minnesota and be mediators to coming to a middle ground. In Mexico it is not at all uncommon to find native peoples achieving degrees with pride in Archaeology. With modern Archaeology they have made great leaps in the information they can gather of the past of humanity and the many secrets that are otherwise lost. It's funny too at the end of this they have Muzak while they show the credits ha!
In my opinion this is not a very good explanation why the Vikings were not here. I’m sure they were able to get out of their boats and explore just like the French and Spanish did in the 1500s. How did they get to the Midwest? And the waterfall theory would make sense but there’s also the large Mississippi River that only has 1 waterfall on the whole stretch of river. I would find it hard to believe that no other culture traveled here before dated history. There might not have been many but there were most likely a few small exploration groups. It was good informative history of the native burial mound builders though.
Agreed. The footprints at white sands dating to 23,000 years old prove it. We've been in the America's well before clovis, and these archeologists refuse to change their dated thinking.
@@ryanhighberg4662 who is "we", if you are talking about Scandinavians, 23,000 years ago Scandinavia would have been covered in ice. And if you are talking Vikings in particular, then the White Sands foot prints are approximately 22,000 years older than the Vikings era
@-JohnnyK We as a human species have been in the America's long before clovis. Don't make this a who is "we" racial argument.
@@ryanhighberg4662 i agree with you at a species level. And im not making it a racial argument, just thought you were trying to correlate white sands footprints to the Vikings, as you were replying to a post about the Vikings.
@-JohnnyK I respect the honest reply. By no means would I fully support the narrative of the eastern midwest being populated by Nordics. But yes, i do believe that our species has a very long history in the America's. The evidence is overwhelming, and the evidence of cataclysmic events in North America show why clovis disappeared. What an incredible time to be alive while we watch our history be rewritin through our tech advancements.
I'm a euro-usa-an. The Indians today should be in charge of Indian archeology everywhere in this country. We euro-descended people need to let go our control of many things, government included.
Please everyone conserve these ancient sites. If they are on your land Do NOT plow over them. Nor dig them up! They are ancient history!
So these guys don’t know about Scott Woltier proving the runestone is genuine or is this just super old? Let’s do our best to put out accurate information please.
Wolters hasn’t proven anything. He’s a fraud.
@@Oddball5.0 okay listen to the guys that admittedly aren’t scientists but ignore the real ones lol
@@Maskedminnesota Don’t take my word for it. Go watch Wolters’ episode about Michigan copper and see if you can spot the massive bait and switch. He’s a fraud.
If the native Americans living in Minnesota descended from the hopewellians why did they lose technology and change the way they buried their dead. The Hopewells smelted metal the Lakota did not. This only leaves me with more questions.
Isn't it somewhat racist to say that all remains found are the ancestors of the current recognized tribes? It's a little like saying that because I have Irish ancestry, all the graves in Ireland are sacred to me. I'm sure I'm missing something here, but it doesn't add up for me.
There is some great information here but there is also some information that is far from even being good information, such as the claim that the Kensington Runestone is a fake. Scott Wolter proved that it is a legitimate Norse artifact. It was a land claim and has nothing to do with the location of a settlement. Explorers did not build settlements which would be places of long term use, but they did however have short term encampments which would be much less likely to be able to be located unless the same site was repeatedly used which is unlikely for explorers. Also, these archeologists make it sound like burial mounds do not exist in areas such as in the Minnesota Arrowhead region. I know for a fact they do exist in the border country and the location of them is safe because I can count on 1 hand the total number of people who know the location and it will be kept that way so they are not disturbed. Some things are best left alone..
Wolters is a fraud.
There is a recording of the men who created the Kensington Runestone. I heard it in the 70’s. They laughed and joked about their secret. Russell Fridley was the director then and he played it for the employees in the Dept. Of Archaeology at Fort Snelling.
Wow!,Prince's homeland.
Mpls my hometown too
@@juliehouse8899 dreamy.
Very impressive dialogue.
Would you take directions from someone who has never been to the location you're looking for ?
It was interesting when the archaeologists talked about actual Minnesota archaeology. Unfortunately, that ended after the first few minutes 🙄
Who built the North American mounds is the question. Some of these mounds are made with enough dirt to bury football fields dozens of feet deep. How? These people are relayed to us as hunter gatherers. Their every waking hour would be engaged in surviving chasing game and collecting/foraging. They just dropped that to build these massive mounds? We know nothing of past humans though archeologists will stand on a hill and die saying they do. You do not. You just know how to say what your funders want you to say.
People lived across the northern continents a millenia ago before the glaciers, polar flip & movement.
This production underlines one reason I'm reticent to be buried in a cemetery when the time comes, vs cremation. Who knows who will be putting up condos here a thousand years from now? I'd probably end up as back-fill.
To be honest here…due to native migration over the last few millennia, the pictured natives in this video weren’t at all related to the to the said mound builders…considering they are from western tribes. Might be wrong here but I don’t think so…most of the Hopeweillian culture was east of the Mississippi River. Saint Paul native for 54 years
Um... Great info. Except, you are discounting any vikings here because of WATERFALLS.
Learn some European history. Vikings took their boats out of the water to stage attacks and explore.
I'm not discounting 99.999999% of archeological sites in Minnesota are native American. But give a better excuse than WATERFALLS.😂
Was interesting for about 10min.. like the archeology part.
Maya left writing as much as Egyptians. I have a theory that the Wiigwaasabak are similar in some way.
Corn, beans and squash known by native people as the three sisters ❤
Scott Anfinson is completely ignorant of Norse-Scandinavian history of the 'Viking Age': he needs to go take a couple classes and learn what those people did with their boats! They dragged their boats MANY places, and totally could have dragged their boats to Kensington! and by the way NOBODY says they EVER did that!
There's plenty of ways for them to have 'stayed in the water' and made very few manageable portages, and made it to a waterway, bringing them to what is now Minnesota, be it just Lake Superior, or the Rainy River, or even possible to have sailed to Hudson's Bay, rowed up the Nelson River; get to Lake Winnepeg, then row up the Red River into the Bois de Sioux, and row east out of Lake Traverse...that can get you to within 40 miles of Kensington, just 2 or 3 days on foot! (Which actually sounds about right!And, remember, science tells us that the climate was a bit different, then, and so were some of the twists and turns of the Red River), and there's no reason they could not have switched over to canoes, at some later point, and most importantly, no one said these were reasonable people!
The people getting in those boats were a lot of tough men, and often pretty big ones!
Just as many other people did, it would not be hard to believe that they got the idea that there was some place to go, where they were going to find all the gold and silver they could imagine (and, actually, as it turns out: that was true! It's just that it was much farther away than they could ever have imagined!)...Or that there was an easier way to China, but they got lost! NOONE said these guys really knew where they were when they died!
It makes more sense than what DeSoto did, and we know DeSoto did it! Sadly, he wasted his life, dying fairly young, because of a bad translator; searching for the everlasting fountain (or spring that never ran dry), which could certainly be a lifesaver, in many places, but, somehow, he got the idea that it was not the fountain that was Everlasting but the life that would be Everlasting, and he threw away his life in pursuit of it!
Far less reasonable than some gold hungry Vikings trudging halfway across Minnesota (which was a lot of work in those days), but they were used to that sort of thing, in that kind of environment, and knew how to handle it, until they offended, or posed a threat to, the wrong locals!
I refuse to call such an ignorant man as Anfinson 'Doctor', and not going to bother to look up his CV, whether he's gotten some scrap paper, or not!
Because he was arrogant and ignorant and insulting in this video, thus violating the terms that I had to agree to when I posted this!
It took a long time for TPT producers to disappoint, but they finally did!
I can't tell you what kind of hole Scott Anfinson is looking through!
This is copyrighted 2020, but, from the the way some of them talk, it sounds more like 1980!
I guess I will go edit my list of bequests!
We need more franky Jacksons in this country
Not saying I'm a true believer in the Kensington Rune Stone, more like totally interested in everything regarding MN archaeology. I find it striking that it even needed to be addressed here. And that makes me wonder about the people who were interviewed, most likely establishment archaeologists who got their positions by sticking to the mainstream narrative. Because if you don't, your career can be threatened. The mainstream in archaeology has been responsible for many mistaken conclusions, for instance the Clovis first hypothesis. And if you went against that it could threaten your entire career. Now we know the Clovis peoples weren't the first in N. America. But how many careers were ruined by questioning the mainstream belief that the Americas were peopled no earlier than 12,000 years ago? Sometimes you have to wait for some old curmudgeon to die before real progress can be made in archaeology. So here we are hearing from the establishment "the truth" about Minnesota's archaeology. Not saying they're wrong. But extreme skepticism needs to be applied to all claims to "the truth".
The Smithsonian. Destroyers and concealers of Americas great archaeological sites. The mainstream story of archaeology is dead. The internet opened up knowledge to people beyond the control of “academics “.
My family and I dealt with the Smithsonian concerning a particular artifact we found back in the 1970s. We actually had a great experience with them. They had us send photos, and an explanation of where we found it. They sent back their historian's opinion on its origin and offered to buy it from us.
Where did the native Americans come from?
Asia
@@cweefyand maybe 20,000 years ago too
Dolems in Montana?
De Dakota Makoce
Why does this spend so much time trying to debunk the Runestone?
They don't know anything about the history of the Kensington stone. The man who found it was clearing land to plant. His son saw it first and they got it out from the roots on the tree. He was a hard working farmer who had no motivation to forge anything, nor did he have time to waste on that. And no one claimed there was a "settlement" of Vikings there - the stone said they were exploring, and after some of them died or were killed, they left. And yes, you can carry boats overland if they're the kind for exploring because they're smaller vessels. A group of men could have easily carried it. He never bragged about the stone or tried to make a big deal of it. Someone in town asked if they could display it in the Post Office or something, and he let them, and that's when the critics started pouring in and tormenting his family. It's shameful the way the presenters of this program just say it's a lie when they obviously know nothing about it.
Wow, a SPLASH PAD between burial mounds?! That’s just gross. So disrespectful
splash pad in a burial ground wtf parks and rec?
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Man y’all need a new crew out there. These guys don’t know what they’re looking at 😂😂😂
I think they have a jaded and/or prejudiced view about what they're looking at and that everything they say needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
What happened with gravity that caused us to shrink?
My guess about the mounds is they put their abodes on them, raised above the mosquito zone- Zika, milaria, & Cholera.
100% believe Zika caused Central American city abandonment.
Mother's of sickly babies left the bad place & the men had to follow or have no wives.
They don't know much do they?
Very politically correct.
Please read The Bible. Read Genesis. Get your timetable correct. God Almighty created the animals but not 16,000 years ago. Really. Read Genesis.