Strawberry Jam like the subject matter itself, the nostalgia of that specific early to late 2000's era that the movie captures is kinda what draws me to it. i see what u mean but i don't think it'd be the same if it was released today.
It really was. It is a brilliant piece of art, it's so clever and witty and sarcastic and fun! And it was very much a feminist film, in the true sense of the word (not the misogynistic interpretation of it), which may have been what bothered the menfolk so much that they couldn't stop hating on it.
Yes I agree. At first, I was jealous of Meghan because my husband had a crush on her. After watching this movie, I saw another side of Meghan. She is funny, she can make me feel for the character "Jennifer", and can be down to earth. Because of the media... I only saw the "drunk" or "out of control" Meghan. The men that hurt Meghan didn't want the truth to come out just another negative story to distract or hurt her integrity. I like that Meghan talked about being a mother and how hard it is to be a mother in the industry/ get a minute to breast pump.
I genuinely feel sad for her. Anyone who bothers to listen to her for five minutes could tell she's perceptive and wary. She's a person with feelings who has been reduced to just her appearance on a daily basis, and that's made her have to toughen up to preserve her self-esteem and avoid further exploitation. She's kind of forced to be defensive or avoidant because of the superficiality of others.
Then she should have worked on her acting skills instead of her face. She's a bad actress, bro. You guys, she sexualized herself until she realized it didn't work out the way she hoped it would.
"What is feminism? What is supporting other females if there's only certain women you support? If I have to be an academic or non-threatening to you in some way... why do I have to be dismissed?" YES preach Megan.
I can understand that certain women probably should be dismissed from being a part of feminism for a multitude of justifiable reasons, but you shouldn't deliberately call attention to those people or demean them, because then it's an example of using feminism as a weapon rather than a tool. And Megan wasn't included because of the slut shaming side of feminism as well as the side that says that you have to be perfect all the time, two sides that are not justifiable in the slightest.
L7 Weenie exactly! Feminism should be about respecting all women, even women who are not tomboys or academics and who are feminine or have been oversexualized. Then again, there are different branches of feminism and there are a few who are starting to support her. She's talking about a specific, vocal branch.
@@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168 there is a perfectly valid feminist criticism of women who capitalise on sexualisation and objectification of women, as Megan Fox did. But it wasn't feminists who hounded Megan, it was tabloids and celebrity blogs just as she points out.
If Jennifer's Body was released at this day and age, it would be a big hit. I think a lot of people will appreciate the movie deeper than what it was and can understand and dissect parts of the movie that caught their attention. A lot can appreciate way past "sexiness" and past the "teenage flick" and "supernatural elements" it had going on.
@@gee2541 some of the humor was corny . And it wasn’t scary enough to be a memorable horror movie but it was the first in many ways in female horror and the story was original enough . It was more about jealousy and loyalty . Jennifer didn’t want anyone else to have needy and was too insecure and didn’t want needy to have anyone because she couldn’t comprehend why she who had it all, was worthless to everyone . It’s pretty feminist in regards to the script albeit corny
Jarin I was thinking just that. Diablo had to tone down who she was (her past work used against her integrity ?) and you can tell throughout the interview how it changed her. We can’t say if for good or bad because humans are more complex than that. But agreed, an apology is good to start.
Michelle Dominique this is exactly why people do not take feminism seriously. Meghan has always considered herself a “tomboy” and after these interviews I can certainly see why
Ana Luisa Yeah because women probably treated her worst of all as she came up. Can you imagine the jealousy from other actresses etc? “I’m trying SOOO hard and SHE just gets parts because she’s hot!” SMDH. The thing people never realize, as beautiful as she is, there are millions of girls as beautiful... you know why they’re not all famous? Because maybe they have no talent. Or no personality. Or maybe they’re good at math lol. But you see my point. It isn’t just bc she’s gorgeous. It’s because she’s gorgeous and special.
@@speeeee35 yeah I got that, the fact is She's so much more than her physics. But not all feminist are like this, I hope She finds a groyp of people who accept her besides her family, people need friends
"I don't feel like there is a space in the feminism for me, you know, though I consider myself a feminist. I feel like feminists don't want me to be a part of their group". That part breaks my heart.
I wonder how Christopher Nolan would use her... I believe if Nolan wanted he could bring out something really special out of Megan... Like in an action film or even an action trilogy starring Megan Fox... I'd watch... But, i really want Megan to play POISON IVY in the DCEU... I can't think of a better actress for the role...
It’s honestly exactly like Marylin Monroe. A big part of what started to drive her nuts in the end was proving she was a good actress (and she actually was).... She started going to acting schools and hardcore serious acting classes.... with like regular people who were hoping to get to her position!!!! I used to wonder why Megan kind of disappeared at like seriously around 25.. but I get it. They’d have been terrible to her if she continued and just rode out the “sexpot” thing bc the SECOND she had one wrinkle or looked a little different from surgery or whatever theyd be like “FOX NO LONGER HAS ANYTHING TO OFFER!” It’s weird- it’s almost like there’s a cutoff for being beautiful. Up to a point, it makes your life easy and you get whatever you want.... but past a certain point.... everyone is jealous of how beautiful you are so they literally won’t ALLOW you to have anything else. It’s like past a certain point people refuse to take you seriously.
@Maximus Prime then why it's so present on 2019 among girls that are being objectify since forever for being "hot". Why the movie is a way to get with reality for "hot girls" in 2019? I constantly see this movie being quoted by Gen z and people in their 20's . And I think that have major impact It was low buget marketed for young men. But just like neon demon movie Jennifer so body was meant to be for younger generations that have another view on what beauty meant for them. Gen z see beauty as an asset without guilt like every last generation. Go watch director interview about neon demon to learn more about gen z and the difference between past generations because they use that data in marketing
conexos2007 haha this is like magic. First and foremost you completely missed the joke. Secondly, the person you’re replying to also missed the joke. Achievement!
The thing is all women in Hollywood are extremely smart! The thing is Megan was vocal! She refused to be sexually harassed and pigeonholed! So many women in Hollywood feel like they have to suck it up, and the men are dangerous and powerful! So many women want to maintain success and keep quiet because of the environment that has been created around the industry
@@smthngtosay exactly, its not that women in hollywood are dumb, but its such a competitive field with mostly men in power. its hard to speak up, Megan was blacklisted by so many people because of Michael Bay
whomever works at ET and saw the opportunity to take advantage of interviewing these two over this film is a genius. With the ME TOO movement and women equality on a rise, this project is sort of perfect for this.
She really was mistreated , misunderstood and objectified so much that it actually traumatized her , she needs a comeback role in a big movie , tbh I miss her acting because when she’s in her element , like in Jennifer’s body , she is amazing
I’d pay for Megan to create a TH-cam channel where she shares wisdom and advice and her favorite teas...I can listen to her talk forever. She’s so insightful and still so beautiful.
Then you can ask her how she and her husband could discard her stepson, not let him know where they live but only be seen with him on occasion in public events for about ten years, not pay any child support, and not ever had him meet his youngest brother.
@@effyblack5855 I found out a few years ago from the son and his real family and extended friend family who take care of him and who he takes care of. He's a really great guy, so it's not something he did. The Fox-Greens went in for full custody like ten years ago, didn't get it and pretty much dropped him without any normal explanation - on the plus side, he has a father figure in his life, but he was still pretty much discarded by his biological father and stepmother who used to really seem to connect with him and love him. It's all confusing and sad.
It’s because she’s a gorgeous woman with strong opinions and people are jealous it doesn’t surprise me it happened to me too and I tried to ugly myself down again
It's so depressing that this movie flopped but it's not surprising. Guys went to watch this movie for gratuitous tiddies and hair flips but instead they got something that shat all over their misogynistic behaviour, those negative reviews were a whole bunch of bruised egos. But fuck it I'm so glad we get a video like this where it can be discussed candidly and praised for what it was, an incredible movie that was sadly too progressive for it's time
@Maximus Prime did she choose her path or was her path chosen for her. It's widely known that actors are put into boxes and it is really difficult to change your box. She chose to have a career, she didn't choose the roles that were available to her.
She’s so strong honestly, she’s been dragged through sooo much shit and she’s come out so much stronger and wiser. She’s truly an icon and someone to look up to. Diablo is amazing herself. Two real feminists
SMAKS EM SILLIFIED lmao... “made” ?? Noah chooses to wear what he wears. She only supports it. Hate men? She said she’d rather have sons than daughters because daughters seem harder to raise. Try again;)
@@flungoutofspace8469 6 year olds don't choose this junk and you know it. Or perhaps you have never raised a 6 year old. This kid more or less begged his mom to stop pushing it on him and she responded by telling him to get stronger. she's a nut case, and so is anyone else that does this to a small child.
Jody Williams LOL. “Don’t choose” - I’m a female who chose to wear “boy” clothes occasionally when I was his age and younger. I have several cousins who prefer “girl” toys or “girl” clothing over other things. You make no sense.. seriously.
Exactly, and I feel sorry for the screenwriter as well for them completely dismissing her work just so they could objectify a woman in order to satisfy the horny male audience. They both deserved so much more.
Megan fox hot seriously?! Why not megan fox intelligent, very bright, brave ,amazing whoever wrote that is a showinistical bastard !!!😠😠😠 Respect to megan the queen fox♥️♥️♥️♥️
I feel like Jennifer's Body actually paved the way for more horror films exploring womens' trauma, like Us, Midsommar and The Witch - which have been more well-received.
I agree. It was before its time, but it helped bring that time about, and Megan Fox was I think NECESSARY to help it get enough attention to be influential.
I was 16 and in high school when this movie came out. I was instantly obsessed. So obsessed that I would paint my nails just like Jennifer. Hot pink with the middle finger being painted black. I felt so empowered after watching it. It helped give me confidence and basically not let “boys” walk on me. Everyone else around me just didn’t get it. 10 years later I am so proud that it’s getting the respect and recognition it’s getting. Been a JB fan since day one🖤
It was, a banger just not with who they marketed the film to. I remember the promotional trailers and posters, my mum wouldn’t let me go because she thought it would be a soft porn, I guess you could compare to 50 shades of grey so my older friend hustled me in. My friend and I were Amanda and Megan fans which is why we went, we raved about the movie for weeks afterwards and weren’t disappointed at the theatre but the blokes who went expecting transformers or soft porn or whatever walked out on the movie.
Lol sadly yeah.. I was 13 and loved it and my sister who was 11 at the time as well lol and to see it 10 years later being loved,reallt makes me happy. It was a great horror movie
the film's demographic consists of teenage girls and gays who, like megan, have a general dislike and distrust for men, and have a general love for lipgloss and gore. if they actually make a tv series spin-off of jennifer's body, i hope to the demons of hell that alexa demie is casted as jennifer.
The fact that Megan feels there’s no room in feminism for her is tragic. If you don’t support Megan as much as you support the stereotype of the academically inclined, glasses-wearing girl writing a think piece about whatever pissed me off that day, then straight up you’re not a feminist.
each have their own shortcomings: pretty ones are objectified and not conventionally pretty are ignored both are not taken as seriously as men. So yeah i agree.
So sad, really. Feminism has so much room for women like Megan but the problem is that the word gets hijacked by people who want the credibility but don't want to put in any of the work to truly understand it and understand the theory... which would clearly include _all_ women. Intersectional feminism - sex-positive feminism... it's not just a hashtag that started on Tumblr. People don't get it. There is LOADS of room for women like Diablo Cody and Megan Fox - in fact there is a void in it that very much needs them and their voices.
I agree! Feminism is for ALL WOMEN! And if women decide to turn another woman away because she is seemingly gorgeous and “perfect”, then they are not real feminists! We are all in this together!
How Megan asks, "What made you think I could play a psychopath?" Makes me so sad. She looks like she's dreading the answer or looking for confirmation of her abilities. I hate what the industry has done to her, cuz she's so beautiful and so talented. I hope she gets her second break
Yes! Aside from her incredible personal story, she’s also incredibly well educated about different philosophies and spiritual beliefs. I’d honestly love to hear her thoughts on all that and then some.
this movie aged well. this is the exact type of humor thats popular nowadays. if this movie wouldve been made this year, it would be a huge hit. its still one of my all time favorite movies. i owe it a lot.
"You delivered like Domino's, baby". Even when talking about her favorite quotes from the movie, Diablo Cody made another great quote. YOU CAN'T STOP THIS WOMAN!
Megan Fox has a show that's on right now. It's a history/travel show called, "Legends of the Lost." It's really good! I'm all for a Jennifer's Body series if they could convince Megan to be on it!!!!😁
This made me tear up a little when Megan asked what she ever really did, because the answer is that she stood up for herself and the Hollywood dude-bros didn't like it. People think that being pretty negates her intellect and her agency. When she didn't just shut up and look good, they destroyed her career.
Same. I’m actually trying really hard to not cry but she’s just so inspirational and deserves her time. I think a writer just needs to use her correctly in a real film.
Crazy how Megan Fox thinks feminists wouldn’t want her involved and thinks there isn’t a space for her in the movement. She doesn’t realize that to many people she is now considered a feminist icon. Probably has to do with how she doesn’t check social media which is imo a GREAT choice of hers, but if I ever meet her in person (and don’t immediately pass out), I’ll be sure to mention that she is pretty much a feminist icon, because she deserves to know, especially with everything she’s been through in the industry.
So many women at the time loved to shit on her bc she was always branded as a promiscuous vixen who was made for men. Feminism was still heavily looked down upon and the only voices that ever spoke up were in opposition to her. Honestly Diablo Cody was probably the only woman in the industry that took her seriously at that time.
You can really see the tears in her eyes and hear the pain when Megan says that she feels that feminists make her feel like they don't want her to be a part of their group. There are groups within feminism that act super elitist and hypocritical. I've seen it many times. They're not interested in defending all women, only the ones that hold the same beliefs as them. I've seen a lot of hatred spewed in online feminist groups. It's really unfortunate, and honestly just adds more harm. Megan deserved better when she was struggling.
What's worse is in some cases, it is not even about being puritanical about beliefs, but a lack of acceptance that someone may be a feminist and hold the same or very similar values to you, but just look different... Ironically, and hypocritcally, this brand of feminism becomes just as shallow as what it is trying to condemn
The worst thing is people aren't even ready to accept that there could be negative repercussions to being pretty. Like okay if you don't understand but how about you try to listen??
Women are allowed to be pretty or intelligent but not both. Society still refuses to see us as multifaceted beings so instead hyperfixates on our most obvious trait to the detriment of all others.
It was a "commercial failure" but I loved it since the beginning. It was just...not the right time for it. And for all the crap Megan has put up with over the years, she's one that I've always respected. She was an object from the second she was put on film/screen and it's disgusting that so much agency was taken from her.
Kendra Lewellyn Same I loved that movie since the beginning as well it came out when I was 17, and bought it on itunes the unrated version. I watch it every year! I want a sequel
Michael Bay did her dirty, and I think that was the start of her being "blacklisted and bashed." Megan is great and deserves to be at the top, hope to see her in some good roles soon.
@@Kidsinamerica this is aboslutely not true and since u wanna talk about constance it breaks my heart that shes 30+ has been in the industry for years and wants to branch out but is trapped in a show that has had 0 development in years . women can never catch a break without being called a diva
Constance Wu is making MILLION$ of dollars bringing an Asian-centric, Asian-created, Asian-written and Asian-cast TV show to primetime America. It's a smash-hit. FULL STOP. The fact that you don't recognize that monumental achievement, and respect it, doesn't bode well to your comment. Wu was stupid in her comments, and had to walk them back. Megan did the SAME THING - she bad-mouthed the very people who gave her fame, wealth, and opportunity that most-all of us will NEVER have. In case you forgot, Transformers was a block-buster hit and without that movie, Megan Fox wouldn't be half the 'movie star' she is now.
I’m 17 and I’d always assumed this movie was an instant classic - I had no idea that there was such a fiasco with the marketing and image of it. It’s crazy unfair that this movie didn’t do well originally. I guess it was just ahead of its time.
The fact that "Jennifer's Body" was so deeply misunderstood and intensely despised and made fun of when it first came out still astounds me to this day. To me, it was instantly OBVIOUS that it was a dark comedy/horror-comedy flick, and yet critics and the public shat all over it because they clearly did not get that. All the sarcasm, wit, self-deprecation, female empowerment, incisive social commentary, and intentional parody of the horror genre as a whole went completely over people's heads. Honestly, it's just further proof of how incredibly stupid and oblivious the public and Hollywood both are. I fell in love with this movie IMMEDIATELY, from the moment I sat down and the soundtrack kicked in, to the closing end credits. I watched that movie 3 times in theaters - first on opening night with my friends, and then 2 more times by myself later on because I was obsessed with it. In fact, I was so in love with this movie that I also bought the soundtrack (still listen to it, it's amazing) as soon as I got out of the theater the first time, I rented the DVD from Hollywood Videos (back when us elderly folk still watched - and rented - DVDs), and have dropped whatever I was doing anytime it came on TV. It's brilliant and one of my all-time favorite movies. It's a f*cking masterpiece, and Diablo Cody and the actors were really done dirty by the industry and the public.
H A D A S S A women directed this movie... which is female empowerment in the film industry, and in the movie, jennifer had all the power over men... which breaks the whole stigma that men control women
fucking tell me about it, I watched two commentaries here on youtube, one by a girl and one by a guy, the reactions were completely different and shows exactly how the lack of female perspective causes people to dismiss the whole context of a film, the guy who is someone I watch quite frequently just made fun of everything, gushed about the male actors and joked about how hot the lesbianism was,so disappointed honestly.
This interview absolutely broke my heart. No matter what you think of her, Megan did not deserve to have her career and personal life/image attacked the way she did. NO ONE does. She was reduced to a constricting and unwanted archetype that she felt like she didn't fit in and was relentlessly scourged for it. And she for sure is not the only woman in Hollywood to go through this same toxic behavior. The industry really did her dirty...
G CAT Oh yes because her having money means she wasn’t hurt by loads of uncalled for abuse and backlash. She was treated awfully for being the feminist lots of people claim to be today. Stop coming on this video and commenting you sad, sad human being
Michael Bay is to blame for her downfall of sorts. She came out about him before the metoo movement which wasnt great for her because he was huge at the time. If she had come out with her story about him and how he made her audition for Transformers during the movement things would have been so different for her. And if Diablo had released Jennifer's Body during the me-too movement things would have been so different for her. They were both way head of the times.
I meant these men totally used their power to blacklist her. And nobody did a shit about it. If it happens during this era, people would be more vocal about it.
I don’t think it’s easy to talk about a project you worked so hard on, and to admit the extreme level of disappointment felt when hearing that it wasn’t well received. I appreciate the honesty in this discussion from you both! And yes; I would put it at the level of cult classic!
Diablo Cody sat there pretending that she genuinely believes her movie was mis marketed to "frat boys" who want to see more boobs, while previously stating she very deliberately cast Megan Fox. First of all, that's probably a very large audience for horror movies in general, then u add Megan to it & that's OBVIOUS to a 5 year old that those "frat boys" r the majority of her audience. She's either trying to pretend that she doesn't/didnt realize that, or even worse, she not only realized it but was banking on that to make her movie a huge box office hit. The fact u can observe her intellect in this video, mixed with everything else tells me this woman is dishonest. & a huge part of the inequality problem between men & women in Hollywood! It was simply a bad movie, & very few people enjoyed anything about the actual movie as a whole. To pretend that u made an incredible masterpiece that is just underappreciated because it was mis marketed is what gives men a reason to under value woman! Because only any IDIOT wouldn't realize who the audience is going to be for a horror movie starring Megan Fox, & to pretend she doesn't know or that it wasn't actually a strategic move on her part makes her a LIAR. & of course men r gonna look down on "idiots" & "liars," therefore look down on woman! Please be a better example for woman in Hollywood, & just woman in general!!!
this was so heartbreaking. its hard listening to what the both of them had to go thru. I see things on twitter all the time about how megan deserved better and how she was treated and blackballed in Hollywood for not taking shit but I never understood the extent. I hope she knows that we love her so much. also she has the coolest kid in the world.
@@tekgid433 um it was literally the opposite. if she was soo desperate for fame she could've easily just been the person they wanted her to be sooo bad, and let what happened to her go without attempting to speak out.
Ikr? 💜 at first I was like, "But scientifically weeds are not flowers" then I realized that I'm bad at science so I made a little research and vôila: there are really weeds that are also flowers!
@@thebinlgbtisbabadook7832 the real reason weeds are weeds if you wanna get technical is actually because they "grow like weeds" they grow over the roots and block other plantlife from being able to grow effectively completely taking over the landscape... so really weeds are like the colonizers that came to America and spread disease and war killing off a massive amount of the native population. It's still a sweet metaphor though if you don't take it literally
@@Roblox-jb2vf that’s an invasive species. “Weeds” that aren’t invasive that grow like weeds are just the native plant life growing where someone decided it shouldn’t.
I personally think they treated Megan like shit because she is one of the most beautiful women alive and people hate beautiful women when they're not sexualizing them. Especially other females who view beauty as a social currency.
its not just other women who view beauty as a social currency its society as a whole lol. people have set up a system where they treat physically attractive women so much better and we all know it.
It had more to do with what she said about Michael Bay and how he made her look after she compared him to Hitler. She should have told her story about him during the me-too movement if anyone deserved to be taken down it was him. She didnt deserve the negative backlash that she got after transformers.
@@suckkmycandles no, i know that. but i was referring to the part where she said other women, and "feminists", treated her like garbage when she spoke out about what happened to her. and i disagree. in some ways they are, but in a lot of ways they simply aren't. it's a win/lose situation.
@@ITzDECORT she's been blackballed by the industry for the last 10 years. just because she had one relatively large pay day doesn't make up for that. dont be daft
I LOVED this discussion and also appreciate how open they both were on a personal and professional level!! I was a fan of Jennifer’s Body from the start but as an adult I understand it even more now. Everything they’ve talked about is something everyone especially women can resonate with. I just cannot wait for Megan to keep on starting to enjoy her stardom more and more. It’s women like this that we need to be voicing their opinions publicly!!
I like how everyone judged Megan then thinking she was a viper and deserved hate when in reality she's a magical human being and is considerably sensitive. Very intuitive and empathic.
Megan is so insanely beautiful. I know what Diablo Cody means by “she has mystique”, she really does, she has a certain “je ne sais quoi” that makes her hypnotizing. I’m happy she’s at a better place.
TheRealist 811 could you clarify what you meant by “cool for a woman”? it sounds like you generally don’t like women so i want to make sure you have a chance to correct yourself
“Why can’t I be part of the group?” This line just goes to show you that even though she has this beauty people have marketed as enviable, unnatural, and almost unfair, she still feels outcasted by the groups she would like to infiltrate. In the same way children want to find a group to mesh with or form circles of friends to find comfort in, she clearly just wants to find her place and have female friends who understand her on an emotional level. She has nearly all the male adoration in the world, yet what she actually desires is genuine female friendship. We need to welcome women of all ages, shapes, sizes, and colors into our spaces and into the conversation. Megan is not the enemy here; she’s our ally.
Men adoration which is not Real considering they praise her looks and view her as dumb or stupid. If you read the comments the transformer director made, you can ser he was an ashole who only liked megans body, since she was 15.
I think the reason why they don’t want her to be part of the group is bc they’re jealous of her beauty, intellect and talent and they don’t bother when she was pressured, sexualized and objectified. How hypocritical those “feminists” are.
If you're pretty then you are just expected to show up and shut up. Pretty ppl don't need to be heard especially back then it seemed to be how they treated her.
Just because she took certain role didn’t mean other women didn’t take better roles. A lot of women became famous, high paying women. Just because Megan took the sex pot role doesn’t mean other actress were oppressed
if jennifers body was released today, it would be a groundbreaking movie. way before its time. in this generation with insta baddies, girls with true confidence and modern day feminism, it would truly SHINE. i love this film.
It sucked then and now. Is for the hot horny girls hiding in secret .... just like the 50 shades of different sex..... why pick this girl? This movie wasn't ahead of its time.. it needed a low intellect audience.....10yrs later you have the civilization of idiots born.
@@YasminMahnaz what are you on? The movie is great and the only reason it flopped back in 2009 was because of the directing and the way it was promoted. If u actually watched the interview u would know
@@catherine756 anyone that uses the word badddddies is a twat .. u guys 12?. Sorry can't tolerate garbage or sh**** movies. Go watch teletubbi maybe baby sitter club ..... or harry Potter.
Sad to see so many people including OP completely miss the point of the film. It's not about instagram internet baddies or other bullshit it's about how very young girls are hypersexualized and objectified and how female socialization has such a negative impact on the development of young girls self-concept, self-esteem, self-confidence, and identity. Y'all are so dense it's really painful to watch.
I just want to give these women a hug…I’m tearing up just listening to how they feel, and how they’ve essentially been bullied in their lives/careers without any merit. To feel like you don’t have a place in feminism is a downright shame. Shame on those feminists who choose to beat down on other women and exclude them just because they’re not the typical stereotype of a feminist. I hope they both create more and more films. Jennifer’s body has so much symbolism and I still watch it from time to time on Halloween. Really great interview too, love hearing them speak so openly and genuinely.
"I haven't been given that type of freedom since"😭 this is so damn sad to me. These two women deserve so much better in the their careers. This movie was really ahead of it's time.
This shows that no one can have everything. Nothing is perfect. Megan was sexually objectified into oblivion. She has always been smart and intelligent she was naive and came up in a bumpy era. She reminds me of Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears how we as a society broke them into pieces. This talks about how humans must deconstruct themselves literally change or create personalities or identies to be accepted into society. Let’s start changing this. We can be okay just as we are.
I keep coming back to this whenever I need to relax and feel joy. It's not just about how satisfying it feels to see this movie being rediscovered, revalued and appreciated now, achieving cult status only 10 years after its release, but it's also about how awesome, intelligent and ahead of their time these 2 women are. It's a genuine pleasure to see them just chatting and revealing their deeply human and bright side that the mainstream failed to recognize. This movie is my ultimate comfort movie... It manages to be unpretentiously smart and complex while also being pure popcorn fun. I just can't get enough of it
You can just feel that Megan has so much pent up hurt, anger, and loneliness that she has to express, and Diablo is just blown away at how thoughtful everything she says is
@TheRealist 811 I don't see what her procedures have to do with the point being made here. That being said there's no shame in getting "plastic" anyhow :) plus she looks fantastic
i remember when jennifers body came out i saw the trailer and i was like "oh, its just a movie about Megan Fox being sexualized again" so i didnt watch it, but years later i finally gave it a chance and i fucking loved it. the movie shouldve been marketed to girls! what a waste
I agreeeee... I remember watching the trailer and was like.. Ofc.. Megan Fox being the sexy lead character seducing the guys🥱. . But then I watched it and was soo damn surprised how the movie was waay more than some typical high school pretty girl makeover movie👍👍👍... That movie was so fun and so refreshing! Ofc it tanked.. But it was never meant to be for the "commercial" market anyway.. So glad it got the cult following that it did and finalllly people realising how damn good the movie is now🌟🌟🌟🌟
Jack FelixnAtlas Megan fox as ivy 😱yes please ...I probably was not old enough to see Jennifer’s Body when I saw it but it made me feel powerful in middle school being an insecure 👧.
I don't get why or how people hated it, at the time my friend and I watched it and loved it, watched it again just now randomly and it's still awesome. Scary and hot and epic.
Yeah, same. I was 18 when it came out and I loved it! It's al ways been one of my favourite movies. I love Megan Fox but even aside from that, the movie was just iconic.
What a genuine interview. Props to Megan and Brook for being so open and honest. It takes a lot of courage to open up like this. This was very inspiring to watch. Thank you guys. 🙏
The face megan makes at 7:50 in response to the 'megan fox hot' email says it all. She's been objectified and berated throughout so much of her career. She deserves so much more. It's absolutely heartbreaking
Dude she has benefitted and been an active participant in her own objectification. Don’t act like she’s some victim. She picked her movies. She got plastic surgery to enhance her perception of being beautiful.
Diana M I still think she deserved better even if her talent isn’t there. At the end of the day, she’s a person, she’s passionate about what she does, and what Michael Bay did was wrong. Edit: I saw the movie on Halloween. It’s amazing and can totally imagine it having a sequel. That needs to happen.
I’m so very impressed with their conversation; each of them taking their time to express what they have to say, and both listening intently to the other ❤️
This is SUCH a treat for long time fans. A lot of us (especially LGBTQ+ fans, and women) were riding for this film since we saw it a decade ago. Many people unfairly wrote it off...but can you think of a film that has had it's impact? Ginger Snap narratively is a proto-JB but this film has such an impact with youth culture, it's inspired entire aesthetics and references. Fox is right, it's beyond a cult classic. It's simply a fkn classic!
THEY SHOULD RE-RELEASE THE MOVIE IN THEATERS DURING HALLOWEEN!!!!
Sonia Anastasia I wonder what the ticket sales would be today compared to 10 years ago. I bet it would make way more money. It’s a cult classic.
Truth!!! It's a totally different viewership then what original executives thought.
Sonia Anastasia Y E S
Yessss! And maybe in 3d or 4d.
GENIUS.
jennifer’s body was way before it’s time honestly
I believe that too!
yes. If Jennifer's Body was released today, it would be a total hit
I agree it’s a classic
Strawberry Jam like the subject matter itself, the nostalgia of that specific early to late 2000's era that the movie captures is kinda what draws me to it. i see what u mean but i don't think it'd be the same if it was released today.
It really was. It is a brilliant piece of art, it's so clever and witty and sarcastic and fun! And it was very much a feminist film, in the true sense of the word (not the misogynistic interpretation of it), which may have been what bothered the menfolk so much that they couldn't stop hating on it.
jennifer’s body made an entire generation of girls emo and gay, it’s a classic
cass scribner yesssss!
Me, included
Proud gay Jennifer's body Stan here ✋
Catty Lynn very cool, congrats
Catty Lynn nobody was asking for ur comment so
Feminists that don't want you in their "group" don't deserve to even call themselves feminists, Meghan. We, feminists, love you and respect you.
Absolu-frickin-loutely.
I second that
Yes I agree. At first, I was jealous of Meghan because my husband had a crush on her. After watching this movie, I saw another side of Meghan. She is funny, she can make me feel for the character "Jennifer", and can be down to earth. Because of the media... I only saw the "drunk" or "out of control" Meghan. The men that hurt Meghan didn't want the truth to come out just another negative story to distract or hurt her integrity. I like that Meghan talked about being a mother and how hard it is to be a mother in the industry/ get a minute to breast pump.
Amen 🙌
💯
You could tell how degraded and dehumanized Megan felt having her talent and work reduced down to those 3 words. She's always deserved better.
Chloe E. Her face totally sunk and it made me so mad that she had to go through that.
That face hurt me
her face said it all
I genuinely feel sad for her. Anyone who bothers to listen to her for five minutes could tell she's perceptive and wary. She's a person with feelings who has been reduced to just her appearance on a daily basis, and that's made her have to toughen up to preserve her self-esteem and avoid further exploitation. She's kind of forced to be defensive or avoidant because of the superficiality of others.
Then she should have worked on her acting skills instead of her face. She's a bad actress, bro. You guys, she sexualized herself until she realized it didn't work out the way she hoped it would.
"What is feminism? What is supporting other females if there's only certain women you support? If I have to be an academic or non-threatening to you in some way... why do I have to be dismissed?" YES preach Megan.
I can understand that certain women probably should be dismissed from being a part of feminism for a multitude of justifiable reasons, but you shouldn't deliberately call attention to those people or demean them, because then it's an example of using feminism as a weapon rather than a tool. And Megan wasn't included because of the slut shaming side of feminism as well as the side that says that you have to be perfect all the time, two sides that are not justifiable in the slightest.
L7 Weenie exactly! Feminism should be about respecting all women, even women who are not tomboys or academics and who are feminine or have been oversexualized. Then again, there are different branches of feminism and there are a few who are starting to support her. She's talking about a specific, vocal branch.
When she said this is literally screamed YES 😫👌🏼
@@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168 there is a perfectly valid feminist criticism of women who capitalise on sexualisation and objectification of women, as Megan Fox did. But it wasn't feminists who hounded Megan, it was tabloids and celebrity blogs just as she points out.
@@redfoxonstilts Yeah, you're right, I don't entirely stand by what I said.
This is 35 minutes of two women discussing their shared trauma.
well it needed to be spoken about.
And I love it
It really is, its so upsetting
Indeed.
I loved this interview between megan and diablo cody it,s not fair how hollywood treated megan as a object megan is a queen for me ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
If Jennifer's Body was released at this day and age, it would be a big hit. I think a lot of people will appreciate the movie deeper than what it was and can understand and dissect parts of the movie that caught their attention. A lot can appreciate way past "sexiness" and past the "teenage flick" and "supernatural elements" it had going on.
it had an awful script lol
@@gee2541 some of the humor was corny . And it wasn’t scary enough to be a memorable horror movie but it was the first in many ways in female horror and the story was original enough . It was more about jealousy and loyalty . Jennifer didn’t want anyone else to have needy and was too insecure and didn’t want needy to have anyone because she couldn’t comprehend why she who had it all, was worthless to everyone . It’s pretty feminist in regards to the script albeit corny
We owe Diablo an apology too man she wrote a movie that linguistically feels just as relevant if not more 10 YEARS LATER
Jarin I was thinking just that. Diablo had to tone down who she was (her past work used against her integrity ?) and you can tell throughout the interview how it changed her. We can’t say if for good or bad because humans are more complex than that. But agreed, an apology is good to start.
I agree! I feel so bad for her and the emotional trauma it caused her afterwards.
I wish they had been given more comfortable chairs for such an important conversation.
They just could have balanced on the sticks they have up their asses.
fr like give them fucking couches lmao
Ikr 🙄
Maybe so they could show the shrine in the back with the baphomet (satan) statue in the locker in the background.
im one minute in and all I could think was how uncomfortable I’d be sitting on a stool for more than 10 minutes lmao
"I don't feel like there's a space in feminism for me"
That absolutely broke my heart.
hey
Michelle Dominique this is exactly why people do not take feminism seriously. Meghan has always considered herself a “tomboy” and after these interviews I can certainly see why
She said something really deep, even when She assumes herself as feminist, She has felt like misfit there......
Ana Luisa Yeah because women probably treated her worst of all as she came up. Can you imagine the jealousy from other actresses etc? “I’m trying SOOO hard and SHE just gets parts because she’s hot!” SMDH. The thing people never realize, as beautiful as she is, there are millions of girls as beautiful... you know why they’re not all famous? Because maybe they have no talent. Or no personality. Or maybe they’re good at math lol. But you see my point. It isn’t just bc she’s gorgeous. It’s because she’s gorgeous and special.
@@speeeee35 yeah I got that, the fact is She's so much more than her physics. But not all feminist are like this, I hope She finds a groyp of people who accept her besides her family, people need friends
"I don't feel like there is a space in the feminism for me, you know, though I consider myself a feminist. I feel like feminists don't want me to be a part of their group". That part breaks my heart.
I want her to be part of my group!!
Asked her age , it's weird ohhhh
Here's it's safe
It's because equality feminism sucks. There is absolutely a place for megan fox in radical feminism.
jennifer’s body is so ahead of time now people like it so much
Abby Dadoll
I loved it when I first seen it theaters
I was obsessed when I saw it in theaters
Yup!
It's now considered a cult classic
Idk about ahead of it's time. I remember when it came out and I enjoyed it. It came out at right time. That's how it was suppose to happen.
Nah am pretty sure i liked it when it was released
NEVER saw the film as a failure.
Jennifer's Body is ICONIC!
At the time it was released it was a tremendous failure
Skilled Magician I think we watched the same interview...thank u captain duh lol
@@ianhartdige lmao
It was a failure for critics but I liked the movie.
the critics clearly have no taste
I hope megan knows that the girls and the gays LOVE her
the girls and the gays are the actual audience for jennifers body ngl
Like genuinely have love for her
As a girl when I watched that movie, I genuinely found Jennifer extremely hot. lol
@@kaiara111 good, thats the exact audience it's for
Especially the gay girls :D
this is the first interview where megan wasn’t being interrupted the whole time n she seems honestly comfortable i love it!!
Facts. But mainly because its not an interview. Its just a conversation betweet two people that worked together and went through similar experiences
Megan's face when Diablo said "Megan Fox hot" was painful to watch.
i thought she was gonna cry 😔
Time stamp?
Which Minute?
go watch the whole interview!
7:48
I truly hopes she makes a big comeback in film. She deserves so much more than what she has been given.
Alex maybe not in a film... they are just gonna use her . I want to see her starting her own business or direct her own film
She just has to find other non dickheads to work with..
Diablo? I would love to see what she would write next
I wonder how Christopher Nolan would use her... I believe if Nolan wanted he could bring out something really special out of Megan... Like in an action film or even an action trilogy starring Megan Fox... I'd watch... But, i really want Megan to play POISON IVY in the DCEU... I can't think of a better actress for the role...
I want her to be on american horror story
She’s so smart and well articulated. Hollywood really downplayed her in every sense of the word.
They don't understand what it's like to be her
It’s honestly exactly like Marylin Monroe. A big part of what started to drive her nuts in the end was proving she was a good actress (and she actually was).... She started going to acting schools and hardcore serious acting classes.... with like regular people who were hoping to get to her position!!!!
I used to wonder why Megan kind of disappeared at like seriously around 25.. but I get it. They’d have been terrible to her if she continued and just rode out the “sexpot” thing bc the SECOND she had one wrinkle or looked a little different from surgery or whatever theyd be like “FOX NO LONGER HAS ANYTHING TO OFFER!”
It’s weird- it’s almost like there’s a cutoff for being beautiful. Up to a point, it makes your life easy and you get whatever you want.... but past a certain point.... everyone is jealous of how beautiful you are so they literally won’t ALLOW you to have anything else. It’s like past a certain point people refuse to take you seriously.
i was literally typing “she’s so articulate and well spoken she deserved better” then i saw ur comment omg
Drats Smithsonian marilyn didn’t ‘go nuts’ because of media, she had a severe mental illness
Magen Fox is gorgeous
Hearing Megan say this is her favourite project she's ever done just makes me stan the craftsmanship that is Jennifer's Body even more.
Jennifer's Body aged really well
Maximus Prime sighhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Movie's terrible. But I love it
Touché
@Maximus Prime then why it's so present on 2019 among girls that are being objectify since forever for being "hot". Why the movie is a way to get with reality for "hot girls" in 2019?
I constantly see this movie being quoted by Gen z and people in their 20's . And I think that have major impact
It was low buget marketed for young men. But just like neon demon movie Jennifer so body was meant to be for younger generations that have another view on what beauty meant for them. Gen z see beauty as an asset without guilt like every last generation.
Go watch director interview about neon demon to learn more about gen z and the difference between past generations because they use that data in marketing
conexos2007 haha this is like magic. First and foremost you completely missed the joke. Secondly, the person you’re replying to also missed the joke. Achievement!
Hollywood didn’t like her because she didn’t fit the ‘pretty’ archetype, she actually has her own brain.
Hollywood - A woman can't be attractive and have her own identity.
Megan - Hi.
Hollywood - I'm about to destroy her whole career.
The thing is all women in Hollywood are extremely smart! The thing is Megan was vocal! She refused to be sexually harassed and pigeonholed! So many women in Hollywood feel like they have to suck it up, and the men are dangerous and powerful! So many women want to maintain success and keep quiet because of the environment that has been created around the industry
@@smthngtosay exactly, its not that women in hollywood are dumb, but its such a competitive field with mostly men in power. its hard to speak up, Megan was blacklisted by so many people because of Michael Bay
I'm actually blown away by how smart & strong Megan is! I dislike and lose respect more and more for Hollywood!
Nope, she was just a bad actress. I mean smart women are actresses. Like Angelina Jolie, ann Hathaway, etc.
whomever works at ET and saw the opportunity to take advantage of interviewing these two over this film is a genius. With the ME TOO movement and women equality on a rise, this project is sort of perfect for this.
Agreed
YES. THIS!!!
True
Right!
She really was mistreated , misunderstood and objectified so much that it actually traumatized her , she needs a comeback role in a big movie , tbh I miss her acting because when she’s in her element , like in Jennifer’s body , she is amazing
Megan Fox was hated because of pure jealousy. Point blank
and misogyny
Period
@Ms Rana Right. I like Megan I mean she's beautiful and she's successful, but it's a damn shame that one got her blacklisted from hollyweird.
I’m glad she was black listed from hollyweird. She actually lucked out from the trash.
Jealous of what?
I’d pay for Megan to create a TH-cam channel where she shares wisdom and advice and her favorite teas...I can listen to her talk forever. She’s so insightful and still so beautiful.
Then you can ask her how she and her husband could discard her stepson, not let him know where they live but only be seen with him on occasion in public events for about ten years, not pay any child support, and not ever had him meet his youngest brother.
@@EMunaBee where did u know about this all information lol ??
@@effyblack5855 I found out a few years ago from the son and his real family and extended friend family who take care of him and who he takes care of. He's a really great guy, so it's not something he did. The Fox-Greens went in for full custody like ten years ago, didn't get it and pretty much dropped him without any normal explanation - on the plus side, he has a father figure in his life, but he was still pretty much discarded by his biological father and stepmother who used to really seem to connect with him and love him. It's all confusing and sad.
SAME
Emuna Bee get outta here rat
Megan fox in American horror story.... I would die 💀
Austin James why?
YESSSSSS!!
OMG THAT WOULD BE PERFECT
YES WTF!!!!!!!!!
OMG THAT WOULD BE AMAZING WHERE CAN I SIGN THE PETITION
My favorite quote ever is:
-You’re killing people...
-No, I’m killing boys.
Honestly our savior
👑👑👑👑👑👑
wat?
@@Hutchdh watch the movie.
What does that line have to do with her being a savior lmao
My favorite lines are “I am a god” “ok…”
Breaks my heart that Megan feels there’s no space for her in feminism.
Mine too I love her.
@@MechaSegaNite you are free to love whoever you want, feminism is about equality between the sexes.
It’s because she’s a gorgeous woman with strong opinions and people are jealous it doesn’t surprise me it happened to me too and I tried to ugly myself down again
A lot of girls hate pretty girls and assume life is automatically easy for them. It is sad.
@Sierra Miles I’m pretty sure womanism is only for black woman 🤷🏾♀️
It's so depressing that this movie flopped but it's not surprising. Guys went to watch this movie for gratuitous tiddies and hair flips but instead they got something that shat all over their misogynistic behaviour, those negative reviews were a whole bunch of bruised egos. But fuck it I'm so glad we get a video like this where it can be discussed candidly and praised for what it was, an incredible movie that was sadly too progressive for it's time
Well said sister! 👏👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️❤️
AMEN!!
Men are wired to like beauty and fertility. Nature is not misogynistic. Its just not fair for none attractive women.
@@Nelcomarproductions 🖕🏻😊🥰
@@Nelcomarproductions “not attractive women” can live “fair” and happy lives. It’s not just men
Megan Fox has an incredible amount of depth to her beyond her looks..Its sad that she's just a hot girl to the industry.
@Maximus Prime indeed I don't understand Why people are making her the victim, she wanted fame clearly.
Maximus Prime She chose to be an actor, she didn’t choose to be bullied and treated like an object by the industry and the public.
@Maximus Prime did she choose her path or was her path chosen for her. It's widely known that actors are put into boxes and it is really difficult to change your box. She chose to have a career, she didn't choose the roles that were available to her.
@@cybramir omg I love you Angel
@@raaid22 so true! valid point
Megan needs to start a podcast. I could listen to this woman swear her way through stories of the industry, the patriarchy and trauma for hours.
Its cute the way she swears! The way real people do!
She’s so strong honestly, she’s been dragged through sooo much shit and she’s come out so much stronger and wiser. She’s truly an icon and someone to look up to. Diablo is amazing herself. Two real feminists
Yeah, she hates men so much she made her son wear a dress to school. Smh
SMAKS EM SILLIFIED lmao... “made” ?? Noah chooses to wear what he wears. She only supports it. Hate men? She said she’d rather have sons than daughters because daughters seem harder to raise. Try again;)
@@flungoutofspace8469 6 year olds don't choose this junk and you know it. Or perhaps you have never raised a 6 year old. This kid more or less begged his mom to stop pushing it on him and she responded by telling him to get stronger.
she's a nut case, and so is anyone else that does this to a small child.
Jody Williams LOL. “Don’t choose” - I’m a female who chose to wear “boy” clothes occasionally when I was his age and younger. I have several cousins who prefer “girl” toys or “girl” clothing over other things. You make no sense.. seriously.
Flungoutofspace amongst those of us without major mental health issues, I make perfect sense, and people like her are child abusers.
“Megan Fox Hot” the fact they couldn’t even be bothered to include “is”, really just speaks volumes of how little they thought of her 💔😢
Exactly, and I feel sorry for the screenwriter as well for them completely dismissing her work just so they could objectify a woman in order to satisfy the horny male audience. They both deserved so much more.
Megan fox hot seriously?! Why not megan fox intelligent, very bright, brave ,amazing whoever wrote that is a showinistical bastard !!!😠😠😠 Respect to megan the queen fox♥️♥️♥️♥️
I feel like Jennifer's Body actually paved the way for more horror films exploring womens' trauma, like Us, Midsommar and The Witch - which have been more well-received.
I agree. It was before its time, but it helped bring that time about, and Megan Fox was I think NECESSARY to help it get enough attention to be influential.
Yeah don't forget ginger snaps I'm pretty diablo took some of that movie and ran with it
Interestingly, all those movies were written and directed by men. I’m not saying that’s the only reason why they were successful, but still
Crow Ginger Snaps was amazing
The movie TEETH as well
I was 16 and in high school when this movie came out. I was instantly obsessed. So obsessed that I would paint my nails just like Jennifer. Hot pink with the middle finger being painted black. I felt so empowered after watching it. It helped give me confidence and basically not let “boys” walk on me. Everyone else around me just didn’t get it. 10 years later I am so proud that it’s getting the respect and recognition it’s getting. Been a JB fan since day one🖤
I was 10 and I have the same experience haha
Just found out Jennifer's Body wasn't a banger 10 years ago wtf.
It was, a banger just not with who they marketed the film to. I remember the promotional trailers and posters, my mum wouldn’t let me go because she thought it would be a soft porn, I guess you could compare to 50 shades of grey so my older friend hustled me in. My friend and I were Amanda and Megan fans which is why we went, we raved about the movie for weeks afterwards and weren’t disappointed at the theatre but the blokes who went expecting transformers or soft porn or whatever walked out on the movie.
I saw this when it came out I was 11 I understood it was a great movie I can't believe others didn't.
It def was for me!
Lol sadly yeah.. I was 13 and loved it and my sister who was 11 at the time as well lol and to see it 10 years later being loved,reallt makes me happy. It was a great horror movie
I thought it was with all the trailers they had out
She deserved a career like Jennifer Lawrence.
You're delusional. She's an awful actress, and Jennifer Lawrence isn't any better.
Jody Williams obviously you’re better than them
I am with you L L
@@jodycwilliams Jennifer was great in Winter's Bone and American Hustle
Facts!
Honestly, this comments section is so wonderfully positive.
Yep :))
Yeah thank god it’s not megan looks old or Megan looks good for her age
l love how comfortable Megan is with her son wearing dresses, l wish my mom was like that /:
I am your mom now :) and i bet ur dresses are very pretty
She is abusing the poor kid.
You people are CRAZY.
@@wwtory u are crazy
@@wwtory oh! the horror!!! boy wearing dress?!?!?!!,&;&? pray tell it’s not true !!!
@@wwtory Agree. )))
the film's demographic consists of teenage girls and gays who, like megan, have a general dislike and distrust for men, and have a general love for lipgloss and gore. if they actually make a tv series spin-off of jennifer's body, i hope to the demons of hell that alexa demie is casted as jennifer.
This gave me chills... PLEASE CAST ALEXA
This. So spot on. And a massive fuck yes to Alexa.
i love this so fucking much wow
Omg ALEXA WOULD BE PERFECT
hell yess
The fact that Megan feels there’s no room in feminism for her is tragic. If you don’t support Megan as much as you support the stereotype of the academically inclined, glasses-wearing girl writing a think piece about whatever pissed me off that day, then straight up you’re not a feminist.
I agree
each have their own shortcomings: pretty ones are objectified and not conventionally pretty are ignored
both are not taken as seriously as men. So yeah i agree.
So sad, really. Feminism has so much room for women like Megan but the problem is that the word gets hijacked by people who want the credibility but don't want to put in any of the work to truly understand it and understand the theory... which would clearly include _all_ women. Intersectional feminism - sex-positive feminism... it's not just a hashtag that started on Tumblr. People don't get it. There is LOADS of room for women like Diablo Cody and Megan Fox - in fact there is a void in it that very much needs them and their voices.
damn, that's true, thank you .
I agree! Feminism is for ALL WOMEN! And if women decide to turn another woman away because she is seemingly gorgeous and “perfect”, then they are not real feminists! We are all in this together!
How Megan asks, "What made you think I could play a psychopath?" Makes me so sad. She looks like she's dreading the answer or looking for confirmation of her abilities. I hate what the industry has done to her, cuz she's so beautiful and so talented. I hope she gets her second break
it was a joke, even then it's still upsetting that she resorts to degrading herself.
We really need a book by Megan. She is so well spoken and intelligent. I bet she has a lot to say.
Yes! Aside from her incredible personal story, she’s also incredibly well educated about different philosophies and spiritual beliefs. I’d honestly love to hear her thoughts on all that and then some.
I want her to start a podcast or youtube channel or something, she's so cool and intelligent. Literal icon 🥺
Not that she has anything to prove but I’d love for her get a degree
Are you being ironic??
@@sailorgillan LMFAO😂😂😂😂
“Juno” and “Jennifer’s Body”...two of the greats that most definitely fall into the “cult classic” category!
this movie aged well. this is the exact type of humor thats popular nowadays. if this movie wouldve been made this year, it would be a huge hit. its still one of my all time favorite movies. i owe it a lot.
"You delivered like Domino's, baby". Even when talking about her favorite quotes from the movie, Diablo Cody made another great quote. YOU CAN'T STOP THIS WOMAN!
I was thinking this too XD she's so witty
If jennifers body became a tv series i would pay a million dollars to watch it
This needs be a thing!! @netflix where you at?
I will contribute to this crowdfunding.
Megan Fox has a show that's on right now. It's a history/travel show called, "Legends of the Lost." It's really good!
I'm all for a Jennifer's Body series if they could convince Megan to be on it!!!!😁
Seconded
This made me tear up a little when Megan asked what she ever really did, because the answer is that she stood up for herself and the Hollywood dude-bros didn't like it. People think that being pretty negates her intellect and her agency. When she didn't just shut up and look good, they destroyed her career.
was thinking this exactly
TRUTH!!
you said it 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Same. I’m actually trying really hard to not cry but she’s just so inspirational and deserves her time. I think a writer just needs to use her correctly in a real film.
@@mandyylolo her acting is not terrible…
Crazy how Megan Fox thinks feminists wouldn’t want her involved and thinks there isn’t a space for her in the movement. She doesn’t realize that to many people she is now considered a feminist icon. Probably has to do with how she doesn’t check social media which is imo a GREAT choice of hers, but if I ever meet her in person (and don’t immediately pass out), I’ll be sure to mention that she is pretty much a feminist icon, because she deserves to know, especially with everything she’s been through in the industry.
It depends on the wave of feminism.
right! now a days people go uppppp for her, i wish someone would show her
@JORGE LIMAS Not all feminists though. You know there are different groups within feminism, right?
So many women at the time loved to shit on her bc she was always branded as a promiscuous vixen who was made for men. Feminism was still heavily looked down upon and the only voices that ever spoke up were in opposition to her. Honestly Diablo Cody was probably the only woman in the industry that took her seriously at that time.
@JORGE LIMAS No, there's never been "just one".
You can really see the tears in her eyes and hear the pain when Megan says that she feels that feminists make her feel like they don't want her to be a part of their group. There are groups within feminism that act super elitist and hypocritical. I've seen it many times. They're not interested in defending all women, only the ones that hold the same beliefs as them. I've seen a lot of hatred spewed in online feminist groups. It's really unfortunate, and honestly just adds more harm. Megan deserved better when she was struggling.
What's worse is in some cases, it is not even about being puritanical about beliefs, but a lack of acceptance that someone may be a feminist and hold the same or very similar values to you, but just look different... Ironically, and hypocritcally, this brand of feminism becomes just as shallow as what it is trying to condemn
It’s so weird bc weve all been made aware of the societal advantages of pretty privilege, but Megan shows that it can work against you too.
it definitely can.
The worst thing is people aren't even ready to accept that there could be negative repercussions to being pretty. Like okay if you don't understand but how about you try to listen??
Women are allowed to be pretty or intelligent but not both. Society still refuses to see us as multifaceted beings so instead hyperfixates on our most obvious trait to the detriment of all others.
@@froglodyte this 👏
it’s a part of misogyny for sure
It was a "commercial failure" but I loved it since the beginning. It was just...not the right time for it. And for all the crap Megan has put up with over the years, she's one that I've always respected. She was an object from the second she was put on film/screen and it's disgusting that so much agency was taken from her.
Just like neon demon it's made for gen z and younger audience that see beauty with other perspective not just as 2 bwbs
If this movie had come out right after the me-too movement started it would have done so much better.
Kendra Lewellyn Same I loved that movie since the beginning as well it came out when I was 17, and bought it on itunes the unrated version. I watch it every year! I want a sequel
I remember I got the DVD and friends would have to come over to my house cause they weren't allowed to watch it at home.
Michael Bay did her dirty, and I think that was the start of her being "blacklisted and bashed." Megan is great and deserves to be at the top, hope to see her in some good roles soon.
Michael bay traumatised a lot of people look
Just ask the VS angels.. They have stories on MB
Megan pulled a "Constance Wu" on the Transformers franchise after she cashed her check. Michael Bay defended his work and franchise, nothing more.
@@Kidsinamerica this is aboslutely not true and since u wanna talk about constance it breaks my heart that shes 30+ has been in the industry for years and wants to branch out but is trapped in a show that has had 0 development in years . women can never catch a break without being called a diva
Constance Wu is making MILLION$ of dollars bringing an Asian-centric, Asian-created, Asian-written and Asian-cast TV show to primetime America. It's a smash-hit. FULL STOP. The fact that you don't recognize that monumental achievement, and respect it, doesn't bode well to your comment. Wu was stupid in her comments, and had to walk them back. Megan did the SAME THING - she bad-mouthed the very people who gave her fame, wealth, and opportunity that most-all of us will NEVER have. In case you forgot, Transformers was a block-buster hit and without that movie, Megan Fox wouldn't be half the 'movie star' she is now.
I’m 17 and I’d always assumed this movie was an instant classic - I had no idea that there was such a fiasco with the marketing and image of it. It’s crazy unfair that this movie didn’t do well originally. I guess it was just ahead of its time.
The fact that "Jennifer's Body" was so deeply misunderstood and intensely despised and made fun of when it first came out still astounds me to this day. To me, it was instantly OBVIOUS that it was a dark comedy/horror-comedy flick, and yet critics and the public shat all over it because they clearly did not get that. All the sarcasm, wit, self-deprecation, female empowerment, incisive social commentary, and intentional parody of the horror genre as a whole went completely over people's heads. Honestly, it's just further proof of how incredibly stupid and oblivious the public and Hollywood both are. I fell in love with this movie IMMEDIATELY, from the moment I sat down and the soundtrack kicked in, to the closing end credits. I watched that movie 3 times in theaters - first on opening night with my friends, and then 2 more times by myself later on because I was obsessed with it. In fact, I was so in love with this movie that I also bought the soundtrack (still listen to it, it's amazing) as soon as I got out of the theater the first time, I rented the DVD from Hollywood Videos (back when us elderly folk still watched - and rented - DVDs), and have dropped whatever I was doing anytime it came on TV. It's brilliant and one of my all-time favorite movies. It's a f*cking masterpiece, and Diablo Cody and the actors were really done dirty by the industry and the public.
Right! It was great this movie had so much wit and great acting.
H A D A S S A women directed this movie... which is female empowerment in the film industry, and in the movie, jennifer had all the power over men... which breaks the whole stigma that men control women
Because the critics are all men.
fucking tell me about it, I watched two commentaries here on youtube, one by a girl and one by a guy, the reactions were completely different and shows exactly how the lack of female perspective causes people to dismiss the whole context of a film, the guy who is someone I watch quite frequently just made fun of everything, gushed about the male actors and joked about how hot the lesbianism was,so disappointed honestly.
@@erikavaldez8175 shit, well I hope you unsubbed from him! He sounds like a true misogynist.
This interview absolutely broke my heart. No matter what you think of her, Megan did not deserve to have her career and personal life/image attacked the way she did. NO ONE does. She was reduced to a constricting and unwanted archetype that she felt like she didn't fit in and was relentlessly scourged for it. And she for sure is not the only woman in Hollywood to go through this same toxic behavior. The industry really did her dirty...
SHAME the poor little millionaire. SO SAD and TOXIC REEEEEE
G CAT Oh yes because her having money means she wasn’t hurt by loads of uncalled for abuse and backlash. She was treated awfully for being the feminist lots of people claim to be today. Stop coming on this video and commenting you sad, sad human being
@@TH-camPremiumMem lol how delusional must you be
@@TH-camPremiumMem She's a survivor, money doesn't make a difference and money doesnt heal a person
I keep thinking about how great Megan's career would be if disgusting Hollywood execs didn't objectify and dehumanize her constantly
Michael Bay is to blame for her downfall of sorts. She came out about him before the metoo movement which wasnt great for her because he was huge at the time. If she had come out with her story about him and how he made her audition for Transformers during the movement things would have been so different for her. And if Diablo had released Jennifer's Body during the me-too movement things would have been so different for her. They were both way head of the times.
You know she could just say no, right? Don't blame others for her actions.
Or if she actually got better acting classes
@@mj-ix4pe She can say no to roles and wardrobe choices that portray her in a certain light. That's something she does have control over.
I meant these men totally used their power to blacklist her. And nobody did a shit about it. If it happens during this era, people would be more vocal about it.
I don’t think it’s easy to talk about a project you worked so hard on, and to admit the extreme level of disappointment felt when hearing that it wasn’t well received. I appreciate the honesty in this discussion from you both! And yes; I would put it at the level of cult classic!
Diablo Cody sat there pretending that she genuinely believes her movie was mis marketed to "frat boys" who want to see more boobs, while previously stating she very deliberately cast Megan Fox. First of all, that's probably a very large audience for horror movies in general, then u add Megan to it & that's OBVIOUS to a 5 year old that those "frat boys" r the majority of her audience. She's either trying to pretend that she doesn't/didnt realize that, or even worse, she not only realized it but was banking on that to make her movie a huge box office hit. The fact u can observe her intellect in this video, mixed with everything else tells me this woman is dishonest. & a huge part of the inequality problem between men & women in Hollywood! It was simply a bad movie, & very few people enjoyed anything about the actual movie as a whole. To pretend that u made an incredible masterpiece that is just underappreciated because it was mis marketed is what gives men a reason to under value woman! Because only any IDIOT wouldn't realize who the audience is going to be for a horror movie starring Megan Fox, & to pretend she doesn't know or that it wasn't actually a strategic move on her part makes her a LIAR. & of course men r gonna look down on "idiots" & "liars," therefore look down on woman! Please be a better example for woman in Hollywood, & just woman in general!!!
this was so heartbreaking. its hard listening to what the both of them had to go thru. I see things on twitter all the time about how megan deserved better and how she was treated and blackballed in Hollywood for not taking shit but I never understood the extent. I hope she knows that we love her so much. also she has the coolest kid in the world.
How? She wasn't forced to do anything ever. She should just admit she was desperate for fame.
@@tekgid433 um it was literally the opposite. if she was soo desperate for fame she could've easily just been the person they wanted her to be sooo bad, and let what happened to her go without attempting to speak out.
Megan did not deserve all that harassment my heart is breakingggg
Vanessa M Same
My boner just went down...Youre so right.😢
Titan29V No one cares about your erectile dysfunction.
"the only difference between a flower and a weed is a judgment " awww
Ikr? 💜 at first I was like, "But scientifically weeds are not flowers" then I realized that I'm bad at science so I made a little research and vôila: there are really weeds that are also flowers!
Such a genius reference
@@thebinlgbtisbabadook7832 the real reason weeds are weeds if you wanna get technical is actually because they "grow like weeds" they grow over the roots and block other plantlife from being able to grow effectively completely taking over the landscape... so really weeds are like the colonizers that came to America and spread disease and war killing off a massive amount of the native population. It's still a sweet metaphor though if you don't take it literally
@@Roblox-jb2vf that’s an invasive species. “Weeds” that aren’t invasive that grow like weeds are just the native plant life growing where someone decided it shouldn’t.
megan is so genuinely smart and well-spoken, this is such an amazing discussion
It was advertised badly and made up to be some male pandering teen horror when it wasn't remotely
The whole entertainment industry should say sorry to Megan Fox
I agree
Yep.
I personally think they treated Megan like shit because she is one of the most beautiful women alive and people hate beautiful women when they're not sexualizing them. Especially other females who view beauty as a social currency.
its not just other women who view beauty as a social currency its society as a whole lol. people have set up a system where they treat physically attractive women so much better and we all know it.
It had more to do with what she said about Michael Bay and how he made her look after she compared him to Hitler. She should have told her story about him during the me-too movement if anyone deserved to be taken down it was him. She didnt deserve the negative backlash that she got after transformers.
@@suckkmycandles no, i know that. but i was referring to the part where she said other women, and "feminists", treated her like garbage when she spoke out about what happened to her. and i disagree. in some ways they are, but in a lot of ways they simply aren't. it's a win/lose situation.
sorry but she made millions because she fucking hot
@@ITzDECORT she's been blackballed by the industry for the last 10 years. just because she had one relatively large pay day doesn't make up for that. dont be daft
I LOVED this discussion and also appreciate how open they both were on a personal and professional level!! I was a fan of Jennifer’s Body from the start but as an adult I understand it even more now. Everything they’ve talked about is something everyone especially women can resonate with. I just cannot wait for Megan to keep on starting to enjoy her stardom more and more. It’s women like this that we need to be voicing their opinions publicly!!
I like how everyone judged Megan then thinking she was a viper and deserved hate when in reality she's a magical human being and is considerably sensitive. Very intuitive and empathic.
Megan is so insanely beautiful. I know what Diablo Cody means by “she has mystique”, she really does, she has a certain “je ne sais quoi” that makes her hypnotizing. I’m happy she’s at a better place.
TheRealist 811 could you clarify what you meant by “cool for a woman”? it sounds like you generally don’t like women so i want to make sure you have a chance to correct yourself
@TheRealist 811 I'm surprised you managed to put all these words together and every single one is wrong
@TheRealist 811 Pretty cool for a woman? Almost like you missed the point of the entire interview.
TheRealist 811
I get what you mean. Like, you’d ALMOST chill with her even if she wasn’t a smokeshow. Almost...
“Why can’t I be part of the group?” This line just goes to show you that even though she has this beauty people have marketed as enviable, unnatural, and almost unfair, she still feels outcasted by the groups she would like to infiltrate. In the same way children want to find a group to mesh with or form circles of friends to find comfort in, she clearly just wants to find her place and have female friends who understand her on an emotional level. She has nearly all the male adoration in the world, yet what she actually desires is genuine female friendship. We need to welcome women of all ages, shapes, sizes, and colors into our spaces and into the conversation. Megan is not the enemy here; she’s our ally.
Emily wonderfully put
wow i love this
All ages, shapes, sizes, and don't forget intelligence. She's super intelligent and super articulate. Something I envy more than beauty.
Men adoration which is not Real considering they praise her looks and view her as dumb or stupid. If you read the comments the transformer director made, you can ser he was an ashole who only liked megans body, since she was 15.
I think the reason why they don’t want her to be part of the group is bc they’re jealous of her beauty, intellect and talent and they don’t bother when she was pressured, sexualized and objectified. How hypocritical those “feminists” are.
The look of horror on Diablo’s face when Megan is talking about people hating her & abusing her
Real feminist ally right there.
I really need a Megan Fox Renaissance NOW!
A Meganaissance!
A Meganaissance ? 😁 You're welcome.
Damn it I did see the guy above me... shit.
YESSSSS
Fuck yessssss We need to see more of her amazing work!!
It is really unfortunate that Megan Fox truly got treated so horrible in Hollywood just because of how beautiful she is. That's ridiculous. :/
Roger Jaén Because these nobodies are either jealous women, disgruntled gay men, or disgruntled straight men.
@Roger Jaén Which is ridiculous tbh. :/ You get bullied for being ugly and for being too pretty! You can never win in this world.
If you're pretty then you are just expected to show up and shut up. Pretty ppl don't need to be heard especially back then it seemed to be how they treated her.
The Fandom Girl same
when she said Megan Fox hot, I thought megan was gonna cry so I immediately started crying and then she didn't I felt stupid
Hahaha fr!
time stamp?
@@_Nosferatu_ 7:48
Because you are.
I thought she was going to cry, too -- I think that emotion was there. Her voice shakes, too.
God, Megan is still so young, I really hope her career gets a revival it deserves
It’s already happening :)
Are you talking about her age or looks or both? She's amazing regardless.
It won't, because she doesn't make the best choices & unfortunately in Hollywood that shit doesn't fly when you're a woman.
Megan was so ahead of her time. It's sad how hollywood not even that long ago treated women the way that they did
let's not pretend like they still don't treat women that way ...
@@kingsleyseow4715 I don't think your input is relevant since you're a man tbh
@@kingsleyseow4715 damn you really made this about men somehow... have a nice day
@Tania Moldovan they just said they weren't a man tho...
Just because she took certain role didn’t mean other women didn’t take better roles. A lot of women became famous, high paying women. Just because Megan took the sex pot role doesn’t mean other actress were oppressed
I want more interviews like this one. Women speaking about the entertainment industry in an honest way. Loved it.
if jennifers body was released today, it would be a groundbreaking movie. way before its time. in this generation with insta baddies, girls with true confidence and modern day feminism, it would truly SHINE. i love this film.
It sucked then and now. Is for the hot horny girls hiding in secret .... just like the 50 shades of different sex..... why pick this girl? This movie wasn't ahead of its time.. it needed a low intellect audience.....10yrs later you have the civilization of idiots born.
Ps she's hot plastic and all...I like her. U wish. I wish she did more but she had kids after
@@YasminMahnaz what are you on? The movie is great and the only reason it flopped back in 2009 was because of the directing and the way it was promoted. If u actually watched the interview u would know
@@catherine756 anyone that uses the word badddddies is a twat .. u guys 12?. Sorry can't tolerate garbage or sh**** movies. Go watch teletubbi maybe baby sitter club ..... or harry Potter.
Sad to see so many people including OP completely miss the point of the film. It's not about instagram internet baddies or other bullshit it's about how very young girls are hypersexualized and objectified and how female socialization has such a negative impact on the development of young girls self-concept, self-esteem, self-confidence, and identity. Y'all are so dense it's really painful to watch.
I just want to give these women a hug…I’m tearing up just listening to how they feel, and how they’ve essentially been bullied in their lives/careers without any merit. To feel like you don’t have a place in feminism is a downright shame. Shame on those feminists who choose to beat down on other women and exclude them just because they’re not the typical stereotype of a feminist.
I hope they both create more and more films. Jennifer’s body has so much symbolism and I still watch it from time to time on Halloween. Really great interview too, love hearing them speak so openly and genuinely.
"I haven't been given that type of freedom since"😭 this is so damn sad to me. These two women deserve so much better in the their careers. This movie was really ahead of it's time.
Right?! Diablo needs to write a new brilliant teen film. Juno and Jennifer's Body were both 2000s brilliance to the max
Ugh no it wasn't these stories literally are proofs of the problems are you ten
This shows that no one can have everything. Nothing is perfect. Megan was sexually objectified into oblivion. She has always been smart and intelligent she was naive and came up in a bumpy era. She reminds me of Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears how we as a society broke them into pieces. This talks about how humans must deconstruct themselves literally change or create personalities or identies to be accepted into society. Let’s start changing this. We can be okay just as we are.
She seems like she came out ok tho. Unlike Brit and LL but pretty sure they were abused worse.
Listen what the media did to Britney Spears broke my heart. The media bullied Michael Jackson into his grave as well. Mass corporate media is sick.
Probably one of the most important discussion ET has ever put out.
I keep coming back to this whenever I need to relax and feel joy. It's not just about how satisfying it feels to see this movie being rediscovered, revalued and appreciated now, achieving cult status only 10 years after its release, but it's also about how awesome, intelligent and ahead of their time these 2 women are. It's a genuine pleasure to see them just chatting and revealing their deeply human and bright side that the mainstream failed to recognize. This movie is my ultimate comfort movie... It manages to be unpretentiously smart and complex while also being pure popcorn fun. I just can't get enough of it
It’s so sad that Jennifer’s body flopped at first, but it’s good that it’s popular now
This is great. Didn't know other people appreciated this film as much as I until I got on Tumblr.
Ugh, you spelled cancer wrong
EeT right?
It’s one of my guilty pleasures, I watch it a few times a year 😆
SMAKS EM SILLIFIED wow you’re so edgy
The only difference between a flower and a weed is a judgement wow
Ikr she really hit us with that
True.
This is one of my favorite conversations ever. Megan needs a podcast.
You can just feel that Megan has so much pent up hurt, anger, and loneliness that she has to express, and Diablo is just blown away at how thoughtful everything she says is
I thought the first part of your comment about the writer but it was hard to tell for Megan
An intelligent and observant queen who articulates herself so well? No choice but to stan.
Megan Fox expressed how she felt so graciously and articulately. What a Queen.
@TheRealist 811 I don't see what her procedures have to do with the point being made here. That being said there's no shame in getting "plastic" anyhow :) plus she looks fantastic
7:49 Her face here broke my heart 💔
i remember when jennifers body came out i saw the trailer and i was like "oh, its just a movie about Megan Fox being sexualized again" so i didnt watch it, but years later i finally gave it a chance and i fucking loved it. the movie shouldve been marketed to girls! what a waste
Same
SAMEEEE
I had the exact same experience. I’m so sorry I missed out on it when it came out.
I agreeeee... I remember watching the trailer and was like.. Ofc.. Megan Fox being the sexy lead character seducing the guys🥱. . But then I watched it and was soo damn surprised how the movie was waay more than some typical high school pretty girl makeover movie👍👍👍... That movie was so fun and so refreshing! Ofc it tanked.. But it was never meant to be for the "commercial" market anyway.. So glad it got the cult following that it did and finalllly people realising how damn good the movie is now🌟🌟🌟🌟
Sameee
I can definitely see Megan Fox playing a villain with Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn being bffs
Jack FelixnAtlas Megan fox as ivy 😱yes please ...I probably was not old enough to see Jennifer’s Body when I saw it but it made me feel powerful in middle school being an insecure 👧.
I think she should be hunterss
Sherene Madramootoo she would make a perfect poison Ivy, catwoman, or the cheetah(Barbra Minerva)
She is my poison ivy
Poision Ivy😍😍
I don't get why or how people hated it, at the time my friend and I watched it and loved it, watched it again just now randomly and it's still awesome. Scary and hot and epic.
Bad marketing :( people were expecting "Megan body hot" because of the trailer
I think alot of people just didn't give it a chance because they assumed it wouldn't be good
Exactly. But I guess the marketing was all wrong
Yeah, same. I was 18 when it came out and I loved it! It's al ways been one of my favourite movies. I love Megan Fox but even aside from that, the movie was just iconic.
I agree
What a genuine interview. Props to Megan and Brook for being so open and honest. It takes a lot of courage to open up like this. This was very inspiring to watch. Thank you guys. 🙏
This felt like a therapy session more then a reunion lmao
No,it was expressing how they were shitted on.. and now the movie is loved
it definitely felt like megan fox finally being able to talk to someone about hollywood fucking her over
The face megan makes at 7:50 in response to the 'megan fox hot' email says it all. She's been objectified and berated throughout so much of her career. She deserves so much more. It's absolutely heartbreaking
same omg she looked on the verge of crying :((((
Dude she has benefitted and been an active participant in her own objectification. Don’t act like she’s some victim. She picked her movies. She got plastic surgery to enhance her perception of being beautiful.
Straight men are a subspecies of humans i swear
27:44
Transformers really did ruin Megan Fox’s opportunities.
No, Michael Bay did.
Her not selling her soul may have been a bigger reason
But she isn't this incredible actress either, so maybe that's it?
Diana M I still think she deserved better even if her talent isn’t there. At the end of the day, she’s a person, she’s passionate about what she does, and what Michael Bay did was wrong.
Edit: I saw the movie on Halloween. It’s amazing and can totally imagine it having a sequel. That needs to happen.
@BØRN Agreed. Some of the earlier Transformers cartoons and newer comics are really good.
I’m so very impressed with their conversation; each of them taking their time to express what they have to say, and both listening intently to the other ❤️
This is SUCH a treat for long time fans. A lot of us (especially LGBTQ+ fans, and women) were riding for this film since we saw it a decade ago. Many people unfairly wrote it off...but can you think of a film that has had it's impact? Ginger Snap narratively is a proto-JB but this film has such an impact with youth culture, it's inspired entire aesthetics and references. Fox is right, it's beyond a cult classic. It's simply a fkn classic!
YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS BISH MY GAY ASS LOVES THIS MOVIE
dope movie loved it and not because im gay smh I can watch gay porn for that
I grew up watching this movie and I’ve always loved it
Thank you for talking about Ginger Snap. God I love that movie