Druid City Games ma man great job on this game and i cant wait to have it home (in Portugal) Said that it didn't got the seal of excellence despite all the praise in this video but 8/10 is still awesome. Congrats =)
I keep seeing Tom have trouble mentioning there being 4 little pigs when mentioning this game, but I thought I recall it being explained that the players are actually 4 different relatives of the original 3 little pigs. That's why the it isn't just 3 male pig pieces like the story we know.
"The three...uh...four little pigs." I personally appreciate the overproduction on this game. It's refreshing to have something with this level of component quality (and minis!) that's so accessible and that I can easily share with my non-gamer friends. It's a nice reminder of what even simple games can be on an artistic level.
Thanks Tom! This looks just light enough my group will still enjoy...and if it has take that...that’s even better! I also am a sucker for a good box insert!
Watching the Dice Tower reviews and adding games as I go along to my Amazon wish list - so far I've added a good handful and this game went on the list.
We played where the foundations cost 2, the walls cost 4, and the roofs cost 6, not 2 each. The other way sounds better maybe for a quicker game but honestly it was still pretty fast at least for adults with the higher resource costs, and more time to gather and play cool cards.
Glad I backed this on Kickstarter and look forward to getting my copy. I waffled and wasn't sure about backing bc of the take that but then decided to back it based I think on Suzanne's comments somewhere. Turns out my kids really now like take that so this is a welcome addition to our collection!
Just to be sure I understand this, once you sleeve the cards, the cards no longer fit in the trays and you might have to throw them away so the game components fit inside the box? Sounds like a waste, right?
Tom, I'm surprised this isn't a seal of excellence by the words you said during the review, do you mind clarifying? I would have thought "the bar for components", "11/10 components", "should be in any family's home" and seemingly very positive comments about the gameplay would warrant an 8.5+/10. Is it because it's a light kid's game and a bit simple? But surely this is what the game is, and should be, aiming for as a family game? Thanks
Vimesey17 I was thinking the same thing. But he did say that to get a seal of approval maybe a game that he'd want to play at any point in time. And this review he said that he wouldn't play this game at any time just when the occasion is kind of right. And that would, with the new scaling, cause it to not get a seal at all. But I think because of the game being such high quality and such great for family's it got the seal of approval.
Yeah, am 8.5+ game is one you want to play more than almost any other. One you’d play at the drop of a hat again and again and again. I think this is a bit too light to warrant that.
So in that case - yes it would mean, ipso facto that a family game can't be excellent simply due to it being created for a family scenario. How is that any more sensible than excluding heavy Euro games cos they are only suitable for experienced gamers with a penchant for that genre? The seal of excellence shouldn't depend on who is reviewing the game but whether it fulfils its role for the target players. So I'm sorry but I think your argument is fatally flawed.
WolfGratz So you’re saying that a reviewers review is invalid because it’s based on that reviewers opinion? And if any one person out there loves a game, every reviewer should give it a 10? I can’t help but think that may be a flaw there too. Eric reviewed Stuffed Fables recently as a family game and loved it (I’m not sure if he issues Seals). Tom has loved family my games in the past. This game he probably rates an 8, that’s a great score! is that really the end of the world? Does it invalidate anyone else loving it? Does it mean anyone who Kickstarted it is an idiot? Of course not. It really does seem these days that if Tom doesn’t give a Kickstarted game a 10 people get really upset.
Why would I be upset? It's no skin off my nose. All I'm saying is that the logic behind rating a game based on whether the reviewer would personally want to play a game over and over again is flawed. It's perfectly ok for you or I as individuals to make a decision on that basis but in my opinion the job of a professional reviewer is to make clear to his or her audience which area of the market the game is aimed at and then rate that game based on how well it fulfils that aim. It seems to me this particular game is aimed at families who like light games and does that excellently. I'm perfectly ok with Tom disagreeing with that - after all he is being paid for his professional opinion. But I'm not so ok with the idea that that opinion should be based on whether it will hit his table on a regular basis.
Thanks for the review Tom, hadn't heard about this one.. It would be nice if you included your opinion of the ages of children it would be suitable for, especially for family style games..
UPDATE: I accept Tom's explanation. He called it an 8 in a later video and asked not to get hung up on ratings and seals. Fair enough. Meanwhile, 8 is a great rating and just missing the excellent seal seems reasonable. In any case, I am really looking forward to getting this game in the mail and putting my own opinion together. Thank you Tom for patience with us. Original: Only a Seal of Approval, Tom? You went on and on about this game and yet only an approval? That seems disappointing.
Yeah, I get that the Seal of Approval is a good thing. Zee put the Seal of Excellence on Santa Maria yet seemed to have more issues with that game than Tom did this with this one. Something seems amiss. Oh well. It's your rating system.
I was thinking the same thing as Brian. Oh well, nothing wrong with being a very good game in the family-game genre (that puts it on par with Takenoko). What family-games do earn the seal of excellence from the Dice Tower? Ticket to Ride and Carcassonne and ???
I think the only difference is the kickstarter version comes with a box sleeve to make it look like a book otherwise retail and kickstarter are identical
I wish they used some sort of symbology for the cards to make the game text free and language independent. I would have made it more appealing to a larger audience. There are much more heavy games that don't use any text and can still offer complex interactions. Great Western Trail is an example that comes to mind.
Interestingly, it was the Grimm brothers who actually sanitized and popularized a lot of the traditional fairytales (until Disney came along). Mothers were changed to step-mothers and they removed a lot of the gory details.
Why would any one give this a seal of excellence... is pretty but kinda light its ok hes happy because is a great game for ppl who not into hobby... chill people im glad is now harder to get excellence seal for amazing games...
Tom, please let us know if the trays cannot accept sleeved cards. I hate it when such a great tray cannot use sleeved cards. Game makers should make trays with space allowance for sleeved cards.
Many complaints below about the game being "over-produced". But what the complainers fail to acknowledge is that the over-production doesn't come at any extra expense. The game's "price point" was established before the Kickstarter campaign even began. It's because of all the money raised during the Kickstarter, is why and how the extra minis are included... essentially for free for everyone. So if the game is *not* costing any more with the minis than it would without, I'm puzzled why people are complaining?
For such a simple game there are way to many components, and indeed the whole game is overproduced (but gorgeous to look at). It can easily scare away more casual players, even though the game is casual in it's core. Can't say I was overly impressed with the game but that might because of the wrong crowd. I would still recommend it.
Tom made a weird comment in the very beginning like "although it is called Grimm Forest... bla bla" - I hope he understand it is not "grim" but "GRIMM" as in the Brothers Grimm... Jacob and Wilhem Grimm, who compiled these stories in Germany in the 19th century...
I was surprised & bummed to see it only got a "Seal of Approval" and not the gold "Excellence" after that glowing review. Either way, I'm REALLY glad I jumped in the Kickstarter on this one! I can't wait until it arrives at my door!!
Kevin Maxwell If Tom game a Seal of Excellence to every game that Kickstarters Backers were really happy to back and spoke highly of it would lose all value. 😁
Cthulwho? That has nothing to do with it... He gave a near-perfect review -THAT was why it was a surprise. Yeah, I'm excited to get it and try it, but HE PLAYED IT ALREADY and gave it incredible comments, then suddenly fell flat on the Seal... but yeah, you're right somehow...?? Whatever dude
I apologise for humour. But if you want to go into it, he said “this may not be a game I’m going to be wanting to play the whole time”. Saying it’s a game he doesn’t want to play is NOT a near perfect review. He also said if he was reviewing it just on the components it would be a 10. But he’s not, components do not (and should not) make up for game play deficits. I agree as components go it’s amazing, but I’m not willing to pay top dollar for components if there’s no game attached. The dragon figure does what exactly? What’s the point of the Big Bad wolf figure? As far as I can tell someone says “the wolf appears at the brickyard, you lose your friend” and that’s it? You don’t need a figure for that!
And I speak as someone who rates Love Letter as a 10 because it does its job (quick filler) in a small package for a pocket money price and with no extraneous fluff. I’m not adverse to light games. But If they had made it a big box game and included a princess figure to award the winner for 10 seconds before packing the game away, and a figure of a guard to place in front of someone when accusing them after you played a Guard card and a ladies fan to wave after discarding the Countess and so on and charged three times the amount for the game, I wouldn’t rate it as high. It would still probably be an 8, as this one probably is with Tom, just not a 10.
The components are excellent, the game itself is less so. Its a fairly basic resource and build game. It has nowhere near the level of complexity or elegant design I would expect from Seal of Excellence games. If this game was not slam packed with minis and artwork it would be very average.
This game is wonderful! If it was half the price it would be a no brainer. But at $50 is too steep for what is here. The price point ALONE is what keeps me away. This is a light game and shouldn't cost anywhere near this.
So people used to complain too many seals were given, then when it changes, they complain about that too. Can we all say it’s a fair complaining system at least? ;)
Not trying to be a naysayer, but as someone who will never paint a miniature I would have been happy with colorful standees and a cheaper price point. A bunch of gray plastic doesn't really do anything for me. Sorry!
This seems like a very light game, so light that it’s clearly overproduced. This is a $15 card game that was pushed by Kickstarter to have miniatures, boards and inserts for no reason. Oh well, I’m sure kids will like it but it’s so light that I’m afraid it won’t get much playtime.
I agree. I was waiting though the review for the gameplay and at the end thought is that it? Look at all these super excited kickstarter commentors though. Hopefully they like it, or their kids like it.
Yup, miniatures that exist only to be placed on a location for mere seconds as you explain what they do then taken off again. It could so easily be played without 60% of the contents. Now that’s lovey and all, and if I were given it free I’d be more than happy to play it a couple of times, but I wouldn’t be happy to pay the price of those overproduced components for such a light game.
This game does have a straightforward rule set, though I think it belies its true nature. The notion of pushing extraneous add-ons in Kickstarter is a real concern though here it did not strike the same cord considering the audience. Chess can be played with a $2 set; Checkers and Go with rocks. Many of our hobby games could be made with $5 worth of cardboard and paper. These and others are often sold in packages or sets far above what is required. Most games tend to be overproduced if viewed though the lens of what you need to play. Just because something can be minimized does not mean it should be. This is an example of a hobby game that is 'overproduced' for good reason. Families with young children (the target audience IMO) will relish the experience of getting to play the giant out onto a location if even for a moment. With no repeated art, they will be able to enjoy each individual card and even discuss the fairy tales in question. The vibrant art elevates the production like a quality storybook. Additionally, the tactile feedback of building houses piece by piece lends a sense of accomplishment. The insert will help children visually check for the pieces when tidying up and will help keep the box supported under the crush of a shelf of board games. None of these are required and the game could be exclusively cards but children (and some adults I know) would surely be less engaged by that product. I think this common complaint may only be valid if you misunderstand the audience or the impact the components will have. This production is not trying to be a an old maid style throwaway - with so many custom abilities and a high price tag this game is encouraging adults to make an informed buying decision and include themselves in the game experience. Regardless, it seems to me that with modern designs game play alone is no longer the controlling interest when the publishing decision is made.
I think the components are great but I have to say that such elaborate miniatures seem a little out of place in a family game. Enthusiasts tend to freak out over great minis, but for whatever reason other people either don't care or are even turned off by the overdone models. For a family game I would have probably preferred something a little simpler, but otherwise the game looks very enjoyable.
I hate it that the miniatures have this lifeless grey colour, which makes it near obligatory to paint them. Couldn't they have made them, say, beige or some other nicer colour?
@@airbornegr4815 A downvote for the video isn't a review of the game though. Upvotes and downvotes are meant to represent the quality of the content, not the topic or subject of the video. Petty ass people, geez.
@@airbornegr4815 Nah, you just mad cause they didn't share your opinion. But whatever it doesn't really matter, just an observation that I made, people can agree or disagree, I just think it's poor taste to down vote game review videos based on the game, rather than the content and quality of the video.
Thanks for the review Tom! Glad you enjoyed it!
Any updated on delivery? Its been a month :-)
Any updated on delivery? Its been a month :-)
Bryan Hearn update coming this week.
Druid City Games ma man great job on this game and i cant wait to have it home (in Portugal)
Said that it didn't got the seal of excellence despite all the praise in this video but 8/10 is still awesome.
Congrats =)
The dice is used in a 2-player game. There is no solo variant, just FYI.
I keep seeing Tom have trouble mentioning there being 4 little pigs when mentioning this game, but I thought I recall it being explained that the players are actually 4 different relatives of the original 3 little pigs. That's why the it isn't just 3 male pig pieces like the story we know.
"Some of the best components I've ever seen in any game" - Tom Vassel Wow!
"The three...uh...four little pigs."
I personally appreciate the overproduction on this game. It's refreshing to have something with this level of component quality (and minis!) that's so accessible and that I can easily share with my non-gamer friends. It's a nice reminder of what even simple games can be on an artistic level.
Some very high praise here. Congrats to James Hudson and his team over at Druid City for knocking this one out of the park!!
Thanks - it was a blast working on this one!
Great review, looks like a blast! I wonder if this would have gotten a seal of excellence under the old system.
I thought the same thing...
I even thought it'd get "the seal of excellence" under the new system too for how highly he described it!
Randy Bieri Agreed! There was no real criticism. The greatest components and a good family weight game.
Prob not, too light of a game I think.
My family just blind bought this over the weekend and had a blast playing it yesterday! Great game.
Thanks Tom! This looks just light enough my group will still enjoy...and if it has take that...that’s even better! I also am a sucker for a good box insert!
Watching the Dice Tower reviews and adding games as I go along to my Amazon wish list - so far I've added a good handful and this game went on the list.
Got my Kickstarter copy recently and too was blown away by the production quality. My family is excited to officially play it soon.
Great Once Upon a Time reference
We played where the foundations cost 2, the walls cost 4, and the roofs cost 6, not 2 each. The other way sounds better maybe for a quicker game but honestly it was still pretty fast at least for adults with the higher resource costs, and more time to gather and play cool cards.
Never really seen Tom act this excited during a game review before. He must love it
Glad I backed this on Kickstarter and look forward to getting my copy. I waffled and wasn't sure about backing bc of the take that but then decided to back it based I think on Suzanne's comments somewhere. Turns out my kids really now like take that so this is a welcome addition to our collection!
Boardgame Fan Girl the take that is light hearted and doesn’t set you back terribly so I found most people don’t mind it.
I'm sold! Yeah, I noticed the beautiful art right away and great theme!
Just to be sure I understand this, once you sleeve the cards, the cards no longer fit in the trays and you might have to throw them away so the game components fit inside the box? Sounds like a waste, right?
Great production and gorgeous card art. Kids will have a blast playing with this game.
Man, I was expecting the seal of excellence after such a high praised review! Game looks wonderful :) 🧙♂️
Tom, I'm surprised this isn't a seal of excellence by the words you said during the review, do you mind clarifying?
I would have thought "the bar for components", "11/10 components", "should be in any family's home" and seemingly very positive comments about the gameplay would warrant an 8.5+/10.
Is it because it's a light kid's game and a bit simple? But surely this is what the game is, and should be, aiming for as a family game?
Thanks
Vimesey17 I was thinking the same thing. But he did say that to get a seal of approval maybe a game that he'd want to play at any point in time. And this review he said that he wouldn't play this game at any time just when the occasion is kind of right. And that would, with the new scaling, cause it to not get a seal at all. But I think because of the game being such high quality and such great for family's it got the seal of approval.
Yeah, am 8.5+ game is one you want to play more than almost any other. One you’d play at the drop of a hat again and again and again. I think this is a bit too light to warrant that.
So in that case - yes it would mean, ipso facto that a family game can't be excellent simply due to it being created for a family scenario. How is that any more sensible than excluding heavy Euro games cos they are only suitable for experienced gamers with a penchant for that genre? The seal of excellence shouldn't depend on who is reviewing the game but whether it fulfils its role for the target players. So I'm sorry but I think your argument is fatally flawed.
WolfGratz So you’re saying that a reviewers review is invalid because it’s based on that reviewers opinion? And if any one person out there loves a game, every reviewer should give it a 10? I can’t help but think that may be a flaw there too.
Eric reviewed Stuffed Fables recently as a family game and loved it (I’m not sure if he issues Seals). Tom has loved family my games in the past. This game he probably rates an 8, that’s a great score! is that really the end of the world? Does it invalidate anyone else loving it? Does it mean anyone who Kickstarted it is an idiot? Of course not.
It really does seem these days that if Tom doesn’t give a Kickstarted game a 10 people get really upset.
Why would I be upset? It's no skin off my nose. All I'm saying is that the logic behind rating a game based on whether the reviewer would personally want to play a game over and over again is flawed. It's perfectly ok for you or I as individuals to make a decision on that basis but in my opinion the job of a professional reviewer is to make clear to his or her audience which area of the market the game is aimed at and then rate that game based on how well it fulfils that aim. It seems to me this particular game is aimed at families who like light games and does that excellently. I'm perfectly ok with Tom disagreeing with that - after all he is being paid for his professional opinion. But I'm not so ok with the idea that that opinion should be based on whether it will hit his table on a regular basis.
Really looking forward to getting this one when my KS copy arrives, thanks for the review, Tom - Druid City Games is rocking it!
But does the insert hold sleeved cards?
Saw this about 2 years ago and backed it as soon as it came to KS. SO many mechanics effectively mixed with a fun theme.
Anxiously awaiting this game's arrival. Not the big hammer! Nooo!!!
Nice review. I am happy that I had the chance to backed and did it =D
Does all the minis come with the retail version? Looking forward to getting my hands on a copy. Love the artwork. Good review,as always 😃
Yes it does!
Because that insert is definitely not being thrown away -- do sleeved cards fit in those compartments?
Can you tell me which material is used in making this minis?
Wow. That's high praise especially for the components! Congrats to Druid City games for that. This game is officially on my radar. Awesome review.
The Dice Odyssey thanks :)
Anytime guys! The game looks awesome. Imma bug Jimmy to let me play it if he gets it, he's like an hour away from me lol!
Excited for my KS copy to arrive. Looks great
What happens if two or more players go to the market? How do you split up the resources?
I'm new here, but I gotta say I really like the way you do the reviews! The game looks really cool!
Thanks for the review Tom, hadn't heard about this one.. It would be nice if you included your opinion of the ages of children it would be suitable for, especially for family style games..
UPDATE: I accept Tom's explanation. He called it an 8 in a later video and asked not to get hung up on ratings and seals. Fair enough. Meanwhile, 8 is a great rating and just missing the excellent seal seems reasonable. In any case, I am really looking forward to getting this game in the mail and putting my own opinion together. Thank you Tom for patience with us. Original: Only a Seal of Approval, Tom? You went on and on about this game and yet only an approval? That seems disappointing.
These days, approval is an excellent logo.
Yeah, I get that the Seal of Approval is a good thing. Zee put the Seal of Excellence on Santa Maria yet seemed to have more issues with that game than Tom did this with this one. Something seems amiss. Oh well. It's your rating system.
I was thinking the same thing as Brian. Oh well, nothing wrong with being a very good game in the family-game genre (that puts it on par with Takenoko). What family-games do earn the seal of excellence from the Dice Tower? Ticket to Ride and Carcassonne and ???
I like it when Tom tells us why he's giving a game a seal of approval or a seal of excellence.
Probably due to the simple ho-hum gameplay.
where can i buy it?? :)
That’s a sturdy table to stand up to that hammer of judgement!
How has this game aged, Tom?
Is this a kickstarter version? And if it is what is the difference with normal retail copy?
I think the only difference is the kickstarter version comes with a box sleeve to make it look like a book otherwise retail and kickstarter are identical
Jessiah is correct.
I wish they used some sort of symbology for the cards to make the game text free and language independent. I would have made it more appealing to a larger audience. There are much more heavy games that don't use any text and can still offer complex interactions. Great Western Trail is an example that comes to mind.
what happens if 2 (or more) ppl go to the market how are the stuff splitt (or are still everyone gets 1 of each) that wasn clear
Draft the resources in turn order.
This looks beautiful! Great job Druid City Games!
Interestingly, it was the Grimm brothers who actually sanitized and popularized a lot of the traditional fairytales (until Disney came along).
Mothers were changed to step-mothers and they removed a lot of the gory details.
Thanks for the review. Have the Kickstarter version that I have yet to play.
It's shipping already?
Kickstarter versions have not shipped yet.
Tom Landy sorry. I did mean I have ordered my copy from Kickstater and waiting for it to come.
Good review Dice Tower....I said GOODDAY SIR!!
Why would any one give this a seal of excellence... is pretty but kinda light its ok hes happy because is a great game for ppl who not into hobby... chill people im glad is now harder to get excellence seal for amazing games...
Beautiful game! Anxiously waiting for mine!
This game looks awesome. I'm a big Grimm brothers fan
Tom, please let us know if the trays cannot accept sleeved cards. I hate it when such a great tray cannot use sleeved cards. Game makers should make trays with space allowance for sleeved cards.
played my friends copy yesterday.. she had sleeved cards and the fit into the tray..
If you think the components/storage here is amazing then you should check out Wasteland Express.
Many complaints below about the game being "over-produced". But what the complainers fail to acknowledge is that the over-production doesn't come at any extra expense.
The game's "price point" was established before the Kickstarter campaign even began. It's because of all the money raised during the Kickstarter, is why and how the extra minis are included... essentially for free for everyone.
So if the game is *not* costing any more with the minis than it would without, I'm puzzled why people are complaining?
For such a simple game there are way to many components, and indeed the whole game is overproduced (but gorgeous to look at).
It can easily scare away more casual players, even though the game is casual in it's core.
Can't say I was overly impressed with the game but that might because of the wrong crowd. I would still recommend it.
Tom made a weird comment in the very beginning like "although it is called Grimm Forest... bla bla" - I hope he understand it is not "grim" but "GRIMM" as in the Brothers Grimm... Jacob and Wilhem Grimm, who compiled these stories in Germany in the 19th century...
The weird thing is that It goes WAY beyond the brothers Grimm though. It should be called Disney Forest.
I was surprised & bummed to see it only got a "Seal of Approval" and not the gold "Excellence" after that glowing review.
Either way, I'm REALLY glad I jumped in the Kickstarter on this one! I can't wait until it arrives at my door!!
Kevin Maxwell If Tom game a Seal of Excellence to every game that Kickstarters Backers were really happy to back and spoke highly of it would lose all value. 😁
Cthulwho? That has nothing to do with it...
He gave a near-perfect review -THAT was why it was a surprise. Yeah, I'm excited to get it and try it, but HE PLAYED IT ALREADY and gave it incredible comments, then suddenly fell flat on the Seal... but yeah, you're right somehow...??
Whatever dude
I apologise for humour. But if you want to go into it, he said “this may not be a game I’m going to be wanting to play the whole time”. Saying it’s a game he doesn’t want to play is NOT a near perfect review.
He also said if he was reviewing it just on the components it would be a 10. But he’s not, components do not (and should not) make up for game play deficits. I agree as components go it’s amazing, but I’m not willing to pay top dollar for components if there’s no game attached. The dragon figure does what exactly? What’s the point of the Big Bad wolf figure? As far as I can tell someone says “the wolf appears at the brickyard, you lose your friend” and that’s it? You don’t need a figure for that!
And I speak as someone who rates Love Letter as a 10 because it does its job (quick filler) in a small package for a pocket money price and with no extraneous fluff. I’m not adverse to light games.
But If they had made it a big box game and included a princess figure to award the winner for 10 seconds before packing the game away, and a figure of a guard to place in front of someone when accusing them after you played a Guard card and a ladies fan to wave after discarding the Countess and so on and charged three times the amount for the game, I wouldn’t rate it as high.
It would still probably be an 8, as this one probably is with Tom, just not a 10.
The components are excellent, the game itself is less so. Its a fairly basic resource and build game. It has nowhere near the level of complexity or elegant design I would expect from Seal of Excellence games. If this game was not slam packed with minis and artwork it would be very average.
This game is wonderful! If it was half the price it would be a no brainer. But at $50 is too steep for what is here. The price point ALONE is what keeps me away. This is a light game and shouldn't cost anywhere near this.
So people used to complain too many seals were given, then when it changes, they complain about that too. Can we all say it’s a fair complaining system at least? ;)
Surprised it didn't get a seal of excellence
Miniature painters delight, game players “meh”.
Not trying to be a naysayer, but as someone who will never paint a miniature I would have been happy with colorful standees and a cheaper price point. A bunch of gray plastic doesn't really do anything for me. Sorry!
Stop throwing with the components!!
Treat your boardgames with love and care man :P
Other than that, awesome review!
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This seems like a very light game, so light that it’s clearly overproduced. This is a $15 card game that was pushed by Kickstarter to have miniatures, boards and inserts for no reason. Oh well, I’m sure kids will like it but it’s so light that I’m afraid it won’t get much playtime.
I agree. I was waiting though the review for the gameplay and at the end thought is that it?
Look at all these super excited kickstarter commentors though. Hopefully they like it, or their kids like it.
Yup, miniatures that exist only to be placed on a location for mere seconds as you explain what they do then taken off again. It could so easily be played without 60% of the contents.
Now that’s lovey and all, and if I were given it free I’d be more than happy to play it a couple of times, but I wouldn’t be happy to pay the price of those overproduced components for such a light game.
This game does have a straightforward rule set, though I think it belies its true nature. The notion of pushing extraneous add-ons in Kickstarter is a real concern though here it did not strike the same cord considering the audience.
Chess can be played with a $2 set; Checkers and Go with rocks. Many of our hobby games could be made with $5 worth of cardboard and paper. These and others are often sold in packages or sets far above what is required. Most games tend to be overproduced if viewed though the lens of what you need to play. Just because something can be minimized does not mean it should be.
This is an example of a hobby game that is 'overproduced' for good reason. Families with young children (the target audience IMO) will relish the experience of getting to play the giant out onto a location if even for a moment. With no repeated art, they will be able to enjoy each individual card and even discuss the fairy tales in question. The vibrant art elevates the production like a quality storybook. Additionally, the tactile feedback of building houses piece by piece lends a sense of accomplishment. The insert will help children visually check for the pieces when tidying up and will help keep the box supported under the crush of a shelf of board games. None of these are required and the game could be exclusively cards but children (and some adults I know) would surely be less engaged by that product.
I think this common complaint may only be valid if you misunderstand the audience or the impact the components will have. This production is not trying to be a an old maid style throwaway - with so many custom abilities and a high price tag this game is encouraging adults to make an informed buying decision and include themselves in the game experience. Regardless, it seems to me that with modern designs game play alone is no longer the controlling interest when the publishing decision is made.
I've got triplet 7 year olds that will just love this...
Noel Dillabough The theme yes, but bluffing, special effect cards and take that might not be the best mechanisms for that age.
7:28 solo game
I think the components are great but I have to say that such elaborate miniatures seem a little out of place in a family game. Enthusiasts tend to freak out over great minis, but for whatever reason other people either don't care or are even turned off by the overdone models. For a family game I would have probably preferred something a little simpler, but otherwise the game looks very enjoyable.
I hate it that the miniatures have this lifeless grey colour, which makes it near obligatory to paint them. Couldn't they have made them, say, beige or some other nicer colour?
"But are you telling the truth!......."
2:02 bauerschwein :D
Good game to play with the kids, but the play is too easy for adults.
Who downvotes a video like this?
Those that have played the game and realize it sucks
@@airbornegr4815 A downvote for the video isn't a review of the game though. Upvotes and downvotes are meant to represent the quality of the content, not the topic or subject of the video. Petty ass people, geez.
@@Nightbringer2000 the video imo fails to get its job done, review the game, so
@@airbornegr4815 Nah, you just mad cause they didn't share your opinion. But whatever it doesn't really matter, just an observation that I made, people can agree or disagree, I just think it's poor taste to down vote game review videos based on the game, rather than the content and quality of the video.
It always makes me cringe when you dump your games on the table.
That hat is the worst.
Described as an excellent game, receives only a Seal of Approval.
Tom Vasel has become the IGN of board games.
Watch my video I posted this week about our seal changes?
No he said the components were excellent and the game simple but good. He does seem to like it a lot though.
Hahaha, all the praise and it isn't even an Excellent game
Where can I get a copy of this game? I love grimm fairy tales. This is a must buy for me!!!
Jan I dont know if you ever found this game...check a comic book store. Typically they have some dope ass games inside.