Smooth Understeer. In sim racing I always need a car with a strong rear end. I like to rotate the car with the brake pedal (trail braking). I need the have trust at the rear
That's really interesting. I always assume, in sim, people like to "catch the drift" Also I'm not much into F1 sim, but rally, and there, even with trail braking, you got to have the rear sliding, unless you like to hand brake every 10 seconds.
@@giorgospapadopoulos7709 in sim u can also know what the rear is dowing in different ways depending on the sim u play and ur setup, Asseto Corsa for example has a setting that excedarates over/understeer feeling in the steering wheel almost guiding u like its steering for u to compensate for not being able to feel the rear because its not irl. Iracing doesnt do this but u can still feel more similair to irl the steering wheel getting lighter or heavier and 1 thing Max once said he uses is audio, by turning up the tyre volume in the settings and turning down engine volume u can hear quite loud and clearly the tyres scream when they are sliding, then use a suroundsound headset or something where u can hear direction and now u can hear front left or front right, or rear left or right rear, or a combination of them sliding and u can make adjustments based on that. Also in combination with what u feel in the steering wheel, see with ur eyes, and predict based on how the car reacted to different inputs on previous laps u can get a prety good idea and in a way feeling of what the car is doing.
As a sim racer, what really matters is predictability. It doesn't matter what the vehicle does. What matters is that you can predict what the vehicle will do.
I don't think driving styles are a fixed thing, many professional drivers change their styles based on the car they are in, especially outside of single seaters where the weight distribution is similar in every car. My personal experience is that on the sim rig I used to drive mid engine/single seat with an extremely oversteer setup, and I barely move my steering wheel at all comparing to professionals on telemetry. This year I got into the 992 and I start to need aggressive counter steer everywhere. I don't think that my driving style actually changed, because the need for "aggressive" driving isn't a choice or a habit, it's just because I am more comfortable and confident controlling the yaw axis than the longitudinal axis. I am just reaction to how aggressively I need to drive to make sure I am not understeering at any stage of the corner because I am very bad at guessing where the car would end up if the front end starts to plow, so the setup of the car is based on my need, and how aggressively I'm driving is just me reacting to what the car is letting me do.
This made me think I might be the closest to smooth understeer. My style comes primarily from rally, where pivoting the car around with its brakes is natural, so I think I learned to instinctively induce oversteer in understeering cars. It also means I have to have a stable rear so I could put the power down as soon as possible.
Guessing driving styles differs in rallying as well!😄 Because I prefer to rotate on throttle rather than on the brakes. This also means that I tend to run setups with a fairly strong/tight rear differential. However rallying has made me quite bad at tyre management, I’m also quite bad on the brakes resulting in frequent lockups. Not a problem in rallying ofcourse but when it comes to circuit racing oh man…😅
I think that this information is very valuable to know what the driving style of each F1 driver would be, and also to know and understand your own driving style in F1. Also, I think I love Understeer-Aggressive driving style.
Since I started, I ever only was comfortable with the agressive oversteer style, even if it caused me some problems in the past (correcting mid corner while being side by side...)
I always thought of myself as an understeer guy, but with your video turns out i'm more of a smooth oversteerer. Nice video! PS: Aggressive understeer is the fucking worst way to drive, feels terrible, how can those guys be fast driving like that? lol
I use aggressive oversteer because it's the only thing I'm comfortable with, but it's slow, slow, slow to learn if you don't want desintegrating to be part of your training lol
Im not sure it doesnt make much sense to me neither, i feel like if the car is more oversteered i tend to be more smooth and try to avoid excesive oversteer by being smooth and corecting it early, when the car is understeered i still try to be smooth but its more about timing i feel like, about using brakes and the right timing and amount of steering the induce rotation in the car, in a way i get a understeered car to rotate more by being smooth then agresive, smashing the brakes and being overly agresive on the steering just makes it understeer more plus i now have the rear doing strange things.
@@Ze_Techno honestly i learned aggressive oversteer because i was terrible at setup ing my car, i used to play this game assoluto racing which is somewhat realistic and my car (AE86) just oversteers very bad that i basically learned how to drive smooth lol, eventually i got gran turismo and because of my habit it's almost impossible to me to drive understeer cars unless it helps with a stable rear, but it doesn't really matter because i dont really mind the back stepping out lol
Amazing video mate! Yes, my driving style is now smooth oversteer, but I want to delete those few corrections I sometimes do in corner entries (but remember I used to have an aggressive oversteer driving style). Anyway, I hate understeer but seeing Alonso's driving style makes me want to try it sometimes, just for fun. 😂
Im aggressive oversteer, i have played NASCAR games for most of my life and you have to yeet the car around tracks like Sonoma if you want to not be last, that has transitioned into my f1 gaming experience as it's Basically muscle memory to Absolutely put the car on Its limit, a lot of times I push the car to much and spin coming out a corner when playing f1, but in cars that are similar to a nascar stock car *Gt cars,supercars,etc* im even more confident, this also transitions into how i exit corners, since im Absolutely throwing the car in every corner im on the edge of grip and so i Typically get as close to the curb/wall as possible or just slightly dripping my right front on the grass
While crucial to know your preference and perhaps best, I think the true greats that transcend the category of racing they participated in require the ability to drive at least more than one style. See Jim Clark, Mario Andretti, Juan Pablo Montoya, and perhaps the best example now is Alex Palou. They would always be at the front because no matter how the car was handling they could extract everything the car had to give. Track/Car combos probably dictate what the true limit for each is and which is therefore the fastest style (talking several tenths delta over ~90 second laps).
I use a controller (mapped as a wheel, weirdly enough) on Assetto Corsa, so whatever that allows me to push my stick to I guess. It's not that bad, except for the fact that it really doesn't allow me to steer that much in hairpins (ie. Red Bull Ring - Turn 3) where I would pretty much have to wait for the car to turn. On the bright side, throttle and braking inputs are pretty consistent for me, so that's good.
I prefer understeer, as I tend to spin off at turn 4 in Sepang (sharp right uphill corner) in an oversteer setup. And I handle the steering wheel like a madman who don't know how to drive (literally), leaving behind aggressive understeer
Agressive oversteer, i like to brake late and induce rotation by the rear brake balance, when work its very fast, but its very unstable, i think i can still evolve it
I been wanting to make a video about to do set ups in the F1 games by understanding driving style. I do semi pro sim racing in the F1 games, I am usually in the top 1-2% of drivers and would love for you to analyze my driving style. I know I tend to tweak the set ups to have a strong rear end and I tend to do my best when the front end is heavy and which can cause understeer. My friend made me a set up for Qatar that was extremely heavy on the front and instantly improved from the Top 12% to the Top 3% in like 4 laps it was crazy lol
If I ask you for analyzing my driving style: What kind of footage do you like to get? Footage of me driving when feeling very comfortable? Does it help, if I provide footage of me driving different kind of cars? I have done a lot of sim racing in 1980s and newer cars but I do races in AC with a 1950s F1 car as well
Tbh i am starting to think i dont have a driving style I just have certain preferences in a car . Like slightly twitchy under braking but nothing to crazy, however i need a car with enough traction where i can quickly burry the throtte . i am generally smoother with my steering especially during a race . And when it comes with my line it just varies a lot sometimes i take u , sometimes a half u half v is what i call it it is kida hard to explain . What category would you put this in ?
proof that people don't watch F1. Lewis only drove the McLaren because they wouldn't change the car in 2007 to 2009, because they were still in love with Kimi.
Thanks for all of you videos. I have an excel sheets with some drivers ranked in drinving categories and I can compare two driving style now and improve my own style in go-kart or sim. If you want the excel just write your email. I'll send it to you
Smooth Understeer. In sim racing I always need a car with a strong rear end. I like to rotate the car with the brake pedal (trail braking). I need the have trust at the rear
Sim is different, in real life you feel the rear moving with your body.
That's really interesting. I always assume, in sim, people like to "catch the drift"
Also I'm not much into F1 sim, but rally, and there, even with trail braking, you got to have the rear sliding, unless you like to hand brake every 10 seconds.
@@giorgospapadopoulos7709 in sim u can also know what the rear is dowing in different ways depending on the sim u play and ur setup, Asseto Corsa for example has a setting that excedarates over/understeer feeling in the steering wheel almost guiding u like its steering for u to compensate for not being able to feel the rear because its not irl. Iracing doesnt do this but u can still feel more similair to irl the steering wheel getting lighter or heavier and 1 thing Max once said he uses is audio, by turning up the tyre volume in the settings and turning down engine volume u can hear quite loud and clearly the tyres scream when they are sliding, then use a suroundsound headset or something where u can hear direction and now u can hear front left or front right, or rear left or right rear, or a combination of them sliding and u can make adjustments based on that. Also in combination with what u feel in the steering wheel, see with ur eyes, and predict based on how the car reacted to different inputs on previous laps u can get a prety good idea and in a way feeling of what the car is doing.
As a sim racer, what really matters is predictability. It doesn't matter what the vehicle does. What matters is that you can predict what the vehicle will do.
I don't think driving styles are a fixed thing, many professional drivers change their styles based on the car they are in, especially outside of single seaters where the weight distribution is similar in every car.
My personal experience is that on the sim rig I used to drive mid engine/single seat with an extremely oversteer setup, and I barely move my steering wheel at all comparing to professionals on telemetry. This year I got into the 992 and I start to need aggressive counter steer everywhere. I don't think that my driving style actually changed, because the need for "aggressive" driving isn't a choice or a habit, it's just because I am more comfortable and confident controlling the yaw axis than the longitudinal axis. I am just reaction to how aggressively I need to drive to make sure I am not understeering at any stage of the corner because I am very bad at guessing where the car would end up if the front end starts to plow, so the setup of the car is based on my need, and how aggressively I'm driving is just me reacting to what the car is letting me do.
This made me think I might be the closest to smooth understeer. My style comes primarily from rally, where pivoting the car around with its brakes is natural, so I think I learned to instinctively induce oversteer in understeering cars. It also means I have to have a stable rear so I could put the power down as soon as possible.
Guessing driving styles differs in rallying as well!😄 Because I prefer to rotate on throttle rather than on the brakes. This also means that I tend to run setups with a fairly strong/tight rear differential.
However rallying has made me quite bad at tyre management, I’m also quite bad on the brakes resulting in frequent lockups. Not a problem in rallying ofcourse but when it comes to circuit racing oh man…😅
Aggressive oversteer is the only way 😅
I think that this information is very valuable to know what the driving style of each F1 driver would be, and also to know and understand your own driving style in F1.
Also, I think I love Understeer-Aggressive driving style.
I guess I'm an aggressive oversteer guy. When all went good I was fast, but I crashed a lot, on sim and on karts too lol
I’m aggressive understeer. I don’t like a snappy car because I like to aggressively drive the car myself
Since I started, I ever only was comfortable with the agressive oversteer style, even if it caused me some problems in the past (correcting mid corner while being side by side...)
I always thought of myself as an understeer guy, but with your video turns out i'm more of a smooth oversteerer. Nice video!
PS: Aggressive understeer is the fucking worst way to drive, feels terrible, how can those guys be fast driving like that? lol
Thank you! Glad you found your driving style.
I like Aggressive understeer but I clearly need to train more on the turn in and the setup to be as quick as most of other drivers and friends
I use aggressive oversteer because it's the only thing I'm comfortable with, but it's slow, slow, slow to learn if you don't want desintegrating to be part of your training lol
Im not sure it doesnt make much sense to me neither, i feel like if the car is more oversteered i tend to be more smooth and try to avoid excesive oversteer by being smooth and corecting it early, when the car is understeered i still try to be smooth but its more about timing i feel like, about using brakes and the right timing and amount of steering the induce rotation in the car, in a way i get a understeered car to rotate more by being smooth then agresive, smashing the brakes and being overly agresive on the steering just makes it understeer more plus i now have the rear doing strange things.
@@Ze_Techno honestly i learned aggressive oversteer because i was terrible at setup ing my car, i used to play this game assoluto racing which is somewhat realistic and my car (AE86) just oversteers very bad that i basically learned how to drive smooth lol, eventually i got gran turismo and because of my habit it's almost impossible to me to drive understeer cars unless it helps with a stable rear, but it doesn't really matter because i dont really mind the back stepping out lol
Amazing video mate! Yes, my driving style is now smooth oversteer, but I want to delete those few corrections I sometimes do in corner entries (but remember I used to have an aggressive oversteer driving style).
Anyway, I hate understeer but seeing Alonso's driving style makes me want to try it sometimes, just for fun. 😂
I feel like I’m aggressive understeer but sometimes I also run an oversteery setup and get similar lap times
Im aggressive oversteer, i have played NASCAR games for most of my life and you have to yeet the car around tracks like Sonoma if you want to not be last, that has transitioned into my f1 gaming experience as it's Basically muscle memory to Absolutely put the car on Its limit, a lot of times I push the car to much and spin coming out a corner when playing f1, but in cars that are similar to a nascar stock car *Gt cars,supercars,etc* im even more confident, this also transitions into how i exit corners, since im Absolutely throwing the car in every corner im on the edge of grip and so i Typically get as close to the curb/wall as possible or just slightly dripping my right front on the grass
While crucial to know your preference and perhaps best, I think the true greats that transcend the category of racing they participated in require the ability to drive at least more than one style. See Jim Clark, Mario Andretti, Juan Pablo Montoya, and perhaps the best example now is Alex Palou. They would always be at the front because no matter how the car was handling they could extract everything the car had to give. Track/Car combos probably dictate what the true limit for each is and which is therefore the fastest style (talking several tenths delta over ~90 second laps).
I use a controller (mapped as a wheel, weirdly enough) on Assetto Corsa, so whatever that allows me to push my stick to I guess.
It's not that bad, except for the fact that it really doesn't allow me to steer that much in hairpins (ie. Red Bull Ring - Turn 3) where I would pretty much have to wait for the car to turn.
On the bright side, throttle and braking inputs are pretty consistent for me, so that's good.
I prefer understeer, as I tend to spin off at turn 4 in Sepang (sharp right uphill corner) in an oversteer setup. And I handle the steering wheel like a madman who don't know how to drive (literally), leaving behind aggressive understeer
Agressive oversteer, i like to brake late and induce rotation by the rear brake balance, when work its very fast, but its very unstable, i think i can still evolve it
Smooth oversteer
I been wanting to make a video about to do set ups in the F1 games by understanding driving style. I do semi pro sim racing in the F1 games, I am usually in the top 1-2% of drivers and would love for you to analyze my driving style. I know I tend to tweak the set ups to have a strong rear end and I tend to do my best when the front end is heavy and which can cause understeer. My friend made me a set up for Qatar that was extremely heavy on the front and instantly improved from the Top 12% to the Top 3% in like 4 laps it was crazy lol
Hey there, sorry but I don't do analyses anymore. Simply have no time for it :(
I am an aggressive understeer driver lol.
Smooth Oversteer 😎
I just keep my foot on the pedal and hope for the best
Im definitely aggressive under steer
If I ask you for analyzing my driving style: What kind of footage do you like to get? Footage of me driving when feeling very comfortable? Does it help, if I provide footage of me driving different kind of cars?
I have done a lot of sim racing in 1980s and newer cars but I do races in AC with a 1950s F1 car as well
Any car! send it through to this link www.driving-style.com/free-personal-driving-style-analysis
My style is R A L L Y rally rally asf vroom jump and shit 💥💥💥💥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 running fans off HELL YEAH🫀📈🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Tbh i am starting to think i dont have a driving style I just have certain preferences in a car . Like slightly twitchy under braking but nothing to crazy, however i need a car with enough traction where i can quickly burry the throtte . i am generally smoother with my steering especially during a race . And when it comes with my line it just varies a lot sometimes i take u , sometimes a half u half v is what i call it it is kida hard to explain . What category would you put this in ?
Was JP Montoya a good example of aggressive oversteer?
Wb guys like Vettel and Hamilton?
Yep JPM was aggressive
I'm just slow 😂😂
whats the best way for keyboard control?
I have not played on Keyboard, so I wouldnt know.
Where would put Vettel in as you said he has a unique driving style, which suits more styles in different parts of the corner?
Aggressive Understeer, but close to neutral.
@@WolfeF1Explained neutral in terms of aggression or neutral in terms of balance? or both?
I got Smooth Oversteer. How's the book?
Good thanks! A few weeks away from publishing.
Im Aggressive oversteer
Is gamepad control accepted?)
Yes
Hamilton - understeer?? are you serious?
He does like a strong rear on entry.
That’s true to my knowledge dude.
proof that people don't watch F1.
Lewis only drove the McLaren because they wouldn't change the car in 2007 to 2009, because they were still in love with Kimi.
Thanks for all of you videos. I have an excel sheets with some drivers ranked in drinving categories and I can compare two driving style now and improve my own style in go-kart or sim. If you want the excel just write your email. I'll send it to you