I've been a roofer for 50 years and I'm only 40 😂, there's nothing wrong with what you've done, this is a great informative and relaxing video, keep up the good work 😊
Nice video and good for you unpicking a problem and with logic and probably TH-cam fixing it without shelling out thousands. I have n old 1960 bungalow and going through the same problem.
He's a tryer 🤣 I did think about using soakers but when you're like me and have no clue what you're doing I didn't know if that would be a good idea or not
I had a little water coming into my loft where the lead was covering the tiles where you put the flash banding (water was tracking underneath like yours for the same reason - not enough overlap), but I used some leadmate caulking between the tiles and the lead flashing. It did the trick and has lasted a few years, but I might try the flash banding you used next time - I don't know if it was around when I used the leadmate. As a DIYer myself, I was impressed by how you interpreted how things went together, why, and how you could make it better. Keep up the good work!
Yeah it should be on top, need to redo the mortar on the whole gable. If any water gets in there's a channel flowing down to the final asbestos board and it'll run straight out
i have been roofing for 17 years and im so glad that is your own house tiles not cemented back down felt layd wrong not ovapaped this churts my eys please do it right
In the greater scheme of things, I respect all professions, whether £1.2K is a lot or fair price it’s just getting roofers, pun intended, who hold the ‘high ground’, and some seem to enjoy telling people that there roof is not in a great condition but only want to attend a property for one side or full roof job, and in some cases ask for this to be a cash transaction, and work is often not insured. So thanks for this, it helps those that have to take an alternative to save on stress,and protect their well-being by having a ‘roof’ watertight one, over their head. Some people depend on patch work until they can afford it. I’ve lost many a night, and day trying to resolve my roofing situation.
Have people on here not realised this was a DIY job? Nicely done, some issues yes, but it'll be watertight until the life of the roof comes to an end and probably saved you not much change out of a grand 👍
Why not do it in lead though? It's been tried and trusted for centuries. Thats where the word "Plumber" comes from. I think its Latin for "Worker in lead". Flashband is a temporary fix. I've done many dormers in lead with either soakers,secret gutters or like you've done with lead dressed on top depending on the slate/tiles. As one of my old plumbing mentors used to say " Imagine you're a raindrop trying to get in!"
Quick and easy fix for now. I really want to redo all the plastic and lead on the dormers and at the same time see if I can insulate better. I'll get some code 4, 400mm at some point and have a go at dressing the lead. Any tips to make it look good?
@froywhernside You will be better with 5 lb if you're dressing it. Maybe 4lb if leadburning but both are are not for the fainthearted! I don't think many plumbers do it nowadays but it was all part of our apprenticeship back in the 70s. I can't help you from afar but best to let the lead warm.up a bit in the sunshine to make it more malleable. I'll see if I have an old video of us making a chimney Apron a few years ago. (Dressed)
You got to wonder why professional roofers are watching these videos and then criticising 🤔🤣… he found the leak and fixed it. I’ve had several ‘professional’ roofers do several bodge jobs and not fix a thing.
NEVER AGAIN. EVER! We bought the house because it's got a bigger garden than normal and it was in a sorry state so, also cheaper than normal. But no, never will I buy a house with dormers again, definitely more maintenance and cost required
I have no idea, I'm not a roofer. What I do know is that the other week, during storm Bert, water was wetting my carpet on the landing. There appeared to be a tile missing, and two holes in the backing. A quick fix turned into £8,000, including new tiles all over. Yes professionals charge a lot, but your roof is the most important and costly things you need to maintain. And I would never entertain trying it myself unless perhaps I was a retired roofer by trade.
"In the bathroom now /slash workshop " made me laugh . It's ironic you made the statement in the toilet. Growing up, "slash" meant going for a pee , yes I know I'm infantile . Apart from that , new to your channel , enjoyed you video 👍 Have to respect your honestly when you announce that you are out of your depth when it comes to fixing the roof , good on you .At present working on a 1969 property . All the very best.
Subscribed - do you live in my house??! :d We live in a house that looks pretty much exactly like yours, ours was built in the late 60s. We have flat roof dormers front and back covered with felt and with the same stupid design where the water runs to the back of the dormer and is then supposed to drain off the sides. Inevitably the water just ends up pooling on the flat rooves at the back. On the north side, where the back of the flat roof meets the tiles it is just a mass of moss and horribleness. We haven't had any leaks yet (been here 5 years), but it's only a matter of time I feel and so we need to do something. Some of our neighbours have gone the whole hog and have replaced the flat dormers with tiled pitched roofs up to the ridge - but I think that is a huge massive expense and overkill. Instead we are currently looking at replacing the felt with epdm and changing the pitch slightly to take the water forward (and put a gutter on the front). Are you thinking of doing anything similar with your roofs? be interested to hear!
Great design isn't it!! 😵💫 So, we had the dormer flat roofs re-felted a couple of months ago because the neighbours also had leaks and we combined forces so we don't have horrible joins between the two houses. Cost £1300 front and back. I'd love to get rid of the flat roofs but like you say, the cost can't be justified. The felt roof should last at least 10 years if done properly. Refelting every 10-15 years wouldn't be a major thing. I did ask the roofer about pitching the roof towards the front but the added cost of all the sheet timber, tiles amendments will quickly move in to thousands of pounds, he also said they're not designed to run off the front so we could cause more problems with running water down the front of the dormers.
@@froywhernside That's great information, thanks so much for replying. This design must have been all the rage in the 60s. You are right in that a couple of quotes for replacement epdm, change pitch, add extra insulation while up there etc. ran to thousands of pounds!! I hadn't really considered replacing the felt though - but maybe I should until I win the lottery! Out of curiosity, did you find out what was underneath your felt (wood deck or asbestos or something??) and was it OK condition? And by the way, you are very brave to attempt what you've done in your videos, so impressive! Oh and we also suffer from the green algae!!!
Certainly "cheap" to replace the felt in comparison, I probably paid over the odds as well to be honest. Under the felt was wooden boards a bit like floorboards so, no damage because the water was able to run in-between the boards and straight through the insulation and on to the plasterboard ceiling. Brave... Stupid more like 🤣
@@froywhernside Thanks for the info! Really helpful. This morning I replaced a cracked tile on the very front below the dormers - and just like yours there are no eves protectors and the felt has collapsed creating a sort of u-shaped trough. The tops of fascia boards are rotten. Quite pleased to have replaced a tile though - they are unwieldy buggers. And just like yours they weren't nailed down either.
@@froywhernside made from plastic it goes on top of the batten just have to leave it short about 50 mm away from the dormer side so the channel on the gutter can fit in and then tile into it and then siding over top if you search online you will see
How to devalue your home 1.01 so much wrong with this video don’t follow this guy at all hasn’t got a clue and I doubt his fixed his issue the leak is coming from further up the roof
I did find the leak... And fixed it. Magic 🤯 True, I've no clue what I'm doing but I'd rather make a hash of it and then correct it later than not even try.
I've been a roofer for 50 years and I'm only 40 😂, there's nothing wrong with what you've done, this is a great informative and relaxing video, keep up the good work 😊
Now that I remember, I've been a roofer for 51 years 🤣
It's not perfect but, it'll do for now, thanks 👍
It’s WRONG ! Find another trade cos you clearly ain’t a roofer !
Proper bodge up but that's coming from a real roofer.
Nice video and good for you unpicking a problem and with logic and probably TH-cam fixing it without shelling out thousands. I have n old 1960 bungalow and going through the same problem.
Still leak free ;-)
Good job fella.
Well done! Great to see you did by yourself and did a fantastic job!
You could have put the tiles on top of the lead and made it a gutter but you look to have it watertight so well done for trying
He's a tryer 🤣
I did think about using soakers but when you're like me and have no clue what you're doing I didn't know if that would be a good idea or not
I had a little water coming into my loft where the lead was covering the tiles where you put the flash banding (water was tracking underneath like yours for the same reason - not enough overlap), but I used some leadmate caulking between the tiles and the lead flashing. It did the trick and has lasted a few years, but I might try the flash banding you used next time - I don't know if it was around when I used the leadmate. As a DIYer myself, I was impressed by how you interpreted how things went together, why, and how you could make it better. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! No harm in giving it go... it's a goes wrong, pay a pro!
super bodge , fantastic attitude👍
Nothing but the best!
Nicely done kid.
Amatuer hour at its finest 😂
What happened to the felt on gable end if water gets under the tiles it be through the roof
Yeah it should be on top, need to redo the mortar on the whole gable. If any water gets in there's a channel flowing down to the final asbestos board and it'll run straight out
i have been roofing for 17 years and im so glad that is your own house tiles not cemented back down felt layd wrong not ovapaped this churts my eys please do it right
I've been bodging for 17 years, keeping people you like in a job, you're welcome 😂
@@froywhernside ha ha ha good man
i think you have done a very good job of that well done
Sarcasm? I'll take it 😂
Well done 👍
I was quoted £1200 to do this!!! Jokers!
That’s a good price
I was going to say that
not jokers sir you are
In the greater scheme of things, I respect all professions, whether £1.2K is a lot or fair price it’s just getting roofers, pun intended, who hold the ‘high ground’, and some seem to enjoy telling people that there roof is not in a great condition but only want to attend a property for one side or full roof job, and in some cases ask for this to be a cash transaction, and work is often not insured.
So thanks for this, it helps those that have to take an alternative to save on stress,and protect their well-being by having a ‘roof’ watertight one, over their head. Some people depend on patch work until they can afford it. I’ve lost many a night, and day trying to resolve my roofing situation.
I'll pay a professional when it's time for a whole new roof, until then, DIY it is
At last somebody on here has as many roof problems as me and can't find help to do it.
The gift that keeps in giving
Have people on here not realised this was a DIY job? Nicely done, some issues yes, but it'll be watertight until the life of the roof comes to an end and probably saved you not much change out of a grand 👍
Hence, DIY... No harm in having a go, thank you
Great work!
Felt on top of soffit strip
I'll do that when it comes to redoing the mortar 👍 I'd like all the asbestos removed but no doubt that'll be ££££
Flashband?!!! Oh, no.
You think that's bad, wait until I have a go at lead flashing next summer 😬🤣
Why not do it in lead though? It's been tried and trusted for centuries.
Thats where the word "Plumber" comes from. I think its Latin for "Worker in lead". Flashband is a temporary fix. I've done many dormers in lead with either soakers,secret gutters or like you've done with lead dressed on top depending on the slate/tiles. As one of my old plumbing mentors used to say " Imagine you're a raindrop trying to get in!"
Quick and easy fix for now. I really want to redo all the plastic and lead on the dormers and at the same time see if I can insulate better.
I'll get some code 4, 400mm at some point and have a go at dressing the lead. Any tips to make it look good?
@froywhernside You will be better with 5 lb if you're dressing it. Maybe 4lb if leadburning but both are are not for the fainthearted! I don't think many plumbers do it nowadays but it was all part of our apprenticeship back in the 70s. I can't help you from afar but best to let the lead warm.up a bit in the sunshine to make it more malleable. I'll see if I have an old video of us making a chimney Apron a few years ago. (Dressed)
Tuck and lap any flashing on a tiled roof paper always runs horizontal
I know but I wanted minimal joints, no leaks since 👌
Redland Renown, where do you get yours?
Someone painted these gems the glorious red they are 😤
It looks like the ingres of water was coming in from the gable end verge going by the water track marks on the old felt
You might be right, all I know is it's water tight, for now 😬😁
I have the same house with same problem but it was nice to see someone with patience and know how great vid thanks
"know how"... that's a stretch! Amateur hour at it's finest over here
good job 👍👍
Thanks
You got to wonder why professional roofers are watching these videos and then criticising 🤔🤣… he found the leak and fixed it. I’ve had several ‘professional’ roofers do several bodge jobs and not fix a thing.
It's certainly better than previous bodge merchants that had a go, at least it's an A* bodge now 😂
Now you know why they're on here 😅😅😅
Surely coming from the top where the flat roof meets the crop
No, it was running through the hole in the membrane, water was working its way under the tile higher up but, leak free now!
if you had a choice would you have bought a house with dormers? They look like trouble.
NEVER AGAIN. EVER!
We bought the house because it's got a bigger garden than normal and it was in a sorry state so, also cheaper than normal.
But no, never will I buy a house with dormers again, definitely more maintenance and cost required
I had 8 dormers but I sold before they needed tlc
should have put the felt over the top of the asbestos
Yep, lesson learned 👍
Should have pulled the felt over the gable end and put tin Soakers down the dormer side then the led over top
True
I have no idea, I'm not a roofer.
What I do know is that the other week, during storm Bert, water was wetting my carpet on the landing.
There appeared to be a tile missing, and two holes in the backing.
A quick fix turned into £8,000, including new tiles all over.
Yes professionals charge a lot, but your roof is the most important and costly things you need to maintain.
And I would never entertain trying it myself unless perhaps I was a retired roofer by trade.
Felt suport tray installed wrong
Because?
If u have 325mm spacings and over then u don't have enough cover on most tiles
The whole roof is horrible. Wish I could afford to get some pros in to redo everything
"In the bathroom now /slash workshop " made me laugh . It's ironic you made the statement in the toilet. Growing up, "slash" meant going for a pee , yes I know I'm infantile . Apart from that , new to your channel , enjoyed you video 👍 Have to respect your honestly when you announce that you are out of your depth when it comes to fixing the roof , good on you .At present working on a 1969 property . All the very best.
I thought exactly the same myself. Similarly infantile here.
Ha! Love a good slash :-D
Thank you!
👍
Where are you based?
In the warmest part of the UK, and it's still cold 🥶 😁
In Dorset? If so, do you do quotes? @@froywhernside
@@omabdulgani no, I have a go at wrecking my own home but that's all. Checkatrade is your best option for quotes
Well done mate. Good job.
Thanks 👍
The lead flashing is way too long ,1.5 metres maximum length
Certainly was a heavy SOB
rough job
Thanks? 🤠
Subscribed - do you live in my house??! :d We live in a house that looks pretty much exactly like yours, ours was built in the late 60s. We have flat roof dormers front and back covered with felt and with the same stupid design where the water runs to the back of the dormer and is then supposed to drain off the sides. Inevitably the water just ends up pooling on the flat rooves at the back. On the north side, where the back of the flat roof meets the tiles it is just a mass of moss and horribleness. We haven't had any leaks yet (been here 5 years), but it's only a matter of time I feel and so we need to do something. Some of our neighbours have gone the whole hog and have replaced the flat dormers with tiled pitched roofs up to the ridge - but I think that is a huge massive expense and overkill. Instead we are currently looking at replacing the felt with epdm and changing the pitch slightly to take the water forward (and put a gutter on the front). Are you thinking of doing anything similar with your roofs? be interested to hear!
Great design isn't it!! 😵💫
So, we had the dormer flat roofs re-felted a couple of months ago because the neighbours also had leaks and we combined forces so we don't have horrible joins between the two houses. Cost £1300 front and back.
I'd love to get rid of the flat roofs but like you say, the cost can't be justified. The felt roof should last at least 10 years if done properly. Refelting every 10-15 years wouldn't be a major thing.
I did ask the roofer about pitching the roof towards the front but the added cost of all the sheet timber, tiles amendments will quickly move in to thousands of pounds, he also said they're not designed to run off the front so we could cause more problems with running water down the front of the dormers.
Whilst I still can, I'll get up there once a year to clean and inspect, do what I can to keep it in good shape.
@@froywhernside That's great information, thanks so much for replying. This design must have been all the rage in the 60s. You are right in that a couple of quotes for replacement epdm, change pitch, add extra insulation while up there etc. ran to thousands of pounds!! I hadn't really considered replacing the felt though - but maybe I should until I win the lottery! Out of curiosity, did you find out what was underneath your felt (wood deck or asbestos or something??) and was it OK condition? And by the way, you are very brave to attempt what you've done in your videos, so impressive! Oh and we also suffer from the green algae!!!
Certainly "cheap" to replace the felt in comparison, I probably paid over the odds as well to be honest.
Under the felt was wooden boards a bit like floorboards so, no damage because the water was able to run in-between the boards and straight through the insulation and on to the plasterboard ceiling.
Brave... Stupid more like 🤣
@@froywhernside Thanks for the info! Really helpful. This morning I replaced a cracked tile on the very front below the dormers - and just like yours there are no eves protectors and the felt has collapsed creating a sort of u-shaped trough. The tops of fascia boards are rotten. Quite pleased to have replaced a tile though - they are unwieldy buggers. And just like yours they weren't nailed down either.
Don’t give up your day job
Should have used a secret gutter
What's that? Assuming a gutter under the tiles... Made of what? Lead?
@@froywhernside made from plastic it goes on top of the batten just have to leave it short about 50 mm away from the dormer side so the channel on the gutter can fit in and then tile into it and then siding over top if you search online you will see
He did, but kept it quiet 🤫 😂
@froywhernside I think it's called an abutment gutter. Like so th-cam.com/video/zLCKHr3a1e4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=fA4-tgvyWfmhj9iU
@@plummetplum nob head
I hope you don't call yourself a roofer
Nope, professional roofer 👌😂
😊
Still not professional work done 😉
I teach the pros 😉🤣
How to devalue your home 1.01 so much wrong with this video don’t follow this guy at all hasn’t got a clue and I doubt his fixed his issue the leak is coming from further up the roof
I did find the leak... And fixed it. Magic 🤯
True, I've no clue what I'm doing but I'd rather make a hash of it and then correct it later than not even try.
What needs correcting?
Has this leaked again since you done it
Dormers and conservatories a waste of time and money.
This is what pension tax free lumps sums are for, finally sorting out properly all the temporary house repairs done during your younger years 😄