Hope you all enjoy getting two Dodge performance vehicles in less than 24 hours! Just incase you missed it, here is the link to the 2020 Charger Hellcat Widebody: th-cam.com/video/yO72LQ_aqXA/w-d-xo.html Nearly 500 HP is plenty in this car and we much prefer the Scat Pack over the Hellcat but feel free to tell us which you like more.... Hellcat or 392 Scat Pack??
Same I currently own a v6 mustang. Was my first car but I’m ready to trade it for the charger. With kids need the 4 door while also being able to have fun with a v8
As an owner of a narrowed scatpack and a hellcat Challenger, this review is spot on. I enjoy taking the scatpack on more trips. And in ECO mode, I've scored as high as 25.6 MPG. Awesome to think this is still offered
@@ormand3000 there is no actual proof to back up the claims of the newer 5.7’s and 6.4’s having mds issues. We’ll be enjoying our scat packs while you drive your mom’s minivan
LetsGoToMarsMan yeah I saw some used some had 18k-20k miles but you gotta think those were some hard miles. Driving this car is so much fun. Everywhere you’re driving you’re trying to punch it. So I’m not so sure about used.
LetsGoToMarsMan hell fucking now you can not . I wish I’m sure we both do , they’re still in the mid 40s on average. The gt500 has reached 30k just now .
Just tell them they do have awd muscle cars the Jeep Grand Cherokee and Dodge Durango both come in the 5.7, 6.4 and Grand Cherokee trackhawk 6.2 supercharged
Paul Lubbers people today don’t know how to properly drive RWD, and because of that always want AWD to save them and make them think they’re a better driver than they actually are.
It’s an outstanding transmission. I’ve had a lot of auto transmissions over the past 36 years, usually with a high stall converter for the track. This is the first auto trans that I’ve owned that can 60 ft as well as my other autos without a stall converter. It knows when to up/down shift. It’s so good.
Just remember when he says it scares him... that’s a good scare not a bad scare. The only scary thing is the 20k difference between both of these vehicles. Another informative review by the way.. keep them coming.
4.3 second 0-60 is very conservative for the scat pack. Especially with the widebody. I have a 2019 scat pack charger and I put 275 all season continental extreme contact tires on it. I got 4.0-4.2 seconds for the most part. One time I hit 3.9!
Glad to see someone else couldnt get launch control to work either. I had it in my 2015 challenger and couldnt get it to work, I just spun the wheels (I assumed I was doing it wrong). I've never tried launch control on my scat pack charger though, I feel no need to use it. They did such a good job with traction control in this car. It really is there just to prevent you from killing yourself. It still let's you burn out and even slide a bit without cutting power. I think it's really just designed to keep you straight-ish (which is what you want) I remember traction control systems that would kill the power at the slightest slip and it was awful
Thank you Sofyan, thank you so much for giving the engine specs and discussing the exterior first and then going into the interior. My OCD used to kill me when you used discuss the engine after doing the exterior and then the interior and then the engine. It just used to feel in organized. Love your reviews. Never miss it.
Loved the drive of this vehicle. It reminds me of the smoothness that older American sedans had. I drove a Scatpack (non-widebody) and even in that car the power was really good. I think there needs to be an AWD variant for all that power. If you own one of those in a climate where the seasons change you could really wind up in major trouble with just RWD. The build quality is the biggest thing that pulled me away from it when I drove it though. The center stack trim piece seemed to be misaligned. When I went to straighten it the whole thing started to come apart. NOT what you want, especially in a 50k+ car. The other thing was the 🦵 room. As big as it looks if you’re a taller front seat driver the rear seat room is very GTIish. Thanks for continuing to bring us all the cool stuff we want to see 🤟
L.A. Gaming they get 8 because the reviewers punch on it and leave them idling for a long time they average about 15-18 mpg and that’s with hard driving
i ordered my 2019 scat pack when they opened up at my dealer and absolutely love it! ive since upgraded the suspension with Eibach springs, and put some beefy 315s in the back with 295s up front on some Feradda wheels. cant wait to do my big cam with intake and longtubes next year! she runs 12.3 in the quarter now
@@williamrose7818 i think its a timing thing, just a bit of operator error haha. My PB is 12.33, im close! But there arent many stock scats breaking 11s
That was a great review, we don't get these in Australia but we get the same setup in a Chrysler 300 SRT with the same specs. I have just purchased one and love it.
I daily my ‘17 Scat Pack with no regrets. Puts a smile on my face each and every drive. It sounds like Dodge has improved the exhaust note even more in this evolution of the Scat. I wouldn’t mind owning a Hellcat one day, but it’s kinda hard to justify the extra $20K, unless I go for a used one.
I believe they don't offer the AWD in the ScatPack because it would be too close to the Hellcat in terms of 0-60 times. It would take away from the sales of the Hellcat and customers would opt for the AWD Scatpack since it would be much safer than the Hellcat, and you would be able to drive it in the winter too, whereas the Hellcat, its too difficult to drive in the winter, and people store it away until summer (In Canada at least). I could be wrong, but thats my guess :). Btw awesome videos! Cheers!
Going awd will take away some of that excitement imo. And just take a look at the engine placement in comparison to the shock towers or front wheels. Youd have to put that engine way forward to be able to fit half shafts and not to mention all that suspension and knuckle work that needs to be done for clearance. Slapping awd with the longitudinal mounted v8 will just ruin the balance.
Fantastic Review! Classifying the Scat pack as “so old school, so charismatic” is spot on! Try not to smile while driving one of these...I just bought one 😂
I like my center stack. Everything is where I want it and it works quick. No AWD in a V8 model because there’s no room. Also no spare because in the V8 models no room for the battery up front, so it goes in the back and leaves no room for a spare.
went to the dealer to get a 2019 Hellcat, left with a 2019 scatpack, after test driving the scatpack I didnt bother with the Hellcat, the price and power combination couldnt be beat.
smart man most want a hellcat jus to say i got one and probably will never really enjoy the full potential of it on the street thats more a track car ...scatpack is plenty i got one as well enjoy salute
X1-800-GETWRECK don’t get me wrong I love what dodge doing period & I love dodge performance side ..but I still believe the 392 is plenty for most it jus really depends what fits the individual...I enjoy the hell out a 392 still plenty fast & faster then most I’m content ...
485hp in a Scatpack is no laughing matter and is pretty much the sweet spot when it comes to power and speed...BUT...the SRT Hellcat is certainly the hot🔥spot for me,in my opinion! Lol I would still take a Scatpack any day! I just hope Dodge doesn't go electric in the future. If it's not broken,and you're winning,why fix anything?
Sadly that's mated to the garbage 5 speed. Any advantage you might get from awd would be lost on the 5 speed which is significantly slower than the 8 speed. Plus, it's in the 5.7L which is still fast and fun but really has no need for awd. I never had an issue with my 5.7L charger or challenger, I even got snow tires for the challenger and it was serviceable in light snow. The wide body scat pack doesnt really need awd either as the fat tires do more than enough to put the power down.
@@sweatervestguy I was in Massachusetts... the key to remember is that AWD in one of these cars wouldn't make a damn bit of difference with the tires they have. They are not meant for snow or even cold weather. So if you need to buy snow tires anyways, you dont really need awd. I drove my challenger in up to 3 inches of snow. If you need to drive through anything else you should have an suv and not a low slung charger with 485 or 707 hp...
The reason why awd is not offered in the v8 models is because muscle cars are supposed to be v8s and rwd only just like back in the day. You add on awd, and its not classified as a muscle car anymore
eric ch true I wouldn’t buy it either. I don’t even like sunroofs especially living in Las Vegas where it’s too sunny and hot to even use it... I was just curious as to why it wasn’t offered.
I prefer the Scat Pack as a daily driver over the Hellcat because you can floor it and not lose traction like you do on the Hellcat... Also you can save money on, gas, tires and insurance costs... If I was going to the track everyday then I would get the Hellcat..
In my opinion you should get the scat pack Because you can a hellcat blower for about 2500 and a adapter kit for about 3500 so therefore for 6K you can basically get well into the 600hp range not including other bolt ons that would complement it
For the Infotainment screen and layout, to me looks simple but modern. Bigger screen and updated technology comes with a cost. There is only so much real estate in the center stack. That cost would probably be A/C vents. As for the no AWD…..my logic would be that is the weather is bad enough to need AWD it might be a reason to think about whether you should be out driving at all. Besides….would you want to risk damage or an accident with a muscle car of this caliber? It’s not my driving during weather that I am worried about…..it’s the other drivers!
Had a 2016 Scat Pack loved it but it had 245's and would never hook up as you would expect...still not impressed that even with 305's never gonna get a 4.3 on a street with it...only track I guess which is a shame. I traded it in for the 2018 Durango SRT and it does not disappoint...I can pull consistent 4.3 0-60 with no upgrades on any street.
They dropped the V8 AWD system as an option for the Charger when they switched from the 5 speed auto to the larger ZF 8 speed, because there's simply not enough room in the chassis. That iron 5.7/6.2/6/4 Hemi block is HUGE compared to the 3.6 V6. You also forgot to mention that the Widebody package on the Charger also includes the formerly SRT-exclusive 3-mode adaptive suspension along with the 11" wide wheels and 305 tires and 6-pot Brembos (big Brembos are a $$ option on the narrow body), and that the base Scat still comes with 245/45R20 rubber on 9" wide wheels as standard. To get the big brakes, adaptive suspension and 275/40r20 on 9.5" wheels on a narrow body is about $3500. So there's a lot of bang for the buck opting for the $6000 Widebody package.
I don’t care about the difference, they both look awesome. I could easily do a drive by in this one, my Range Rover broke down in the same block that I did a drive by on,
I complained about no V8 with AWD as well. I think they don't do it because of the 8 speed being so long, they can't fit a transfer case behind it with the added cylinders (overall length). I also sat in a V6 AWD charger and it didn't feel like it had much legroom. I wonder if the AWD V6 models also have different firewall locations.
Plus Package? That price is hard to believe. Even if you could qualify for all the rebates I don't think you could get a well equipped scat pack for that price.
I really hope Dodge doesn't redesign the challenger like what they did to the charger, I hope they keep the current challenger look for the next 5+ years.
That was a mistake taking away the fog lights. That’s one thing I hate about my 19 SP Charger.. the headlight output is horrible! Compared to my 18 Accord Sport.
@@NS3825 oh gosh yea. He said they were standard in the video but idk. My challenger had halogen and they were terrible. Never ever buying another car without hid or led lights. (My 2018 has hid and led fogs though). The fogs are bright enough to be headlights, lol
It would be nice for them to offer awd versions but I understand why the V6’s only get it. The scat packs and above are meant for the drag trip and track. Awd is just more weight and more parts for the engine to operate which will lower both its 0-60, top speed, and cornering capability.
Hope you all enjoy getting two Dodge performance vehicles in less than 24 hours! Just incase you missed it, here is the link to the 2020 Charger Hellcat Widebody: th-cam.com/video/yO72LQ_aqXA/w-d-xo.html
Nearly 500 HP is plenty in this car and we much prefer the Scat Pack over the Hellcat but feel free to tell us which you like more.... Hellcat or 392 Scat Pack??
I see the red one too so I am guessing a 3th video is coming soon
yo love the reviews my man. quick question though... whats the point of having a wide body? does it improve performance?
@@rubberbandman097 wide body means wider tires. More grip for all that power going to the back wheels.
Hellcat anyday!
Redline Reviews bro shorten the title
I can't wait to walk into the Dodge dealership and ask for the 6.f**k litre V8.
Same
Juan Herrera why did he even censor that XD
Same I currently own a v6 mustang. Was my first car but I’m ready to trade it for the charger. With kids need the 4 door while also being able to have fun with a v8
Grass 2988 lol I also got a V6 new edge.
Grass 2988 I can see why you would need a car but I don't see why you need kids
As an owner of a narrowed scatpack and a hellcat Challenger, this review is spot on. I enjoy taking the scatpack on more trips. And in ECO mode, I've scored as high as 25.6 MPG. Awesome to think this is still offered
I got 28.2 on my 2012 charger srt, on my trip yo California last year. IT was great.
Good luck with the MDS issues in your Scat Pack
@@ormand3000 thanks.
@@ormand3000 there is no actual proof to back up the claims of the newer 5.7’s and 6.4’s having mds issues. We’ll be enjoying our scat packs while you drive your mom’s minivan
@Nelsonic bro allergic to eco mode
As much as I want that Hellcat, this is probably as close as I’ll get.
Cold Vein you can get a hellcat for 30k now
LetsGoToMarsMan yeah I saw some used some had 18k-20k miles but you gotta think those were some hard miles. Driving this car is so much fun. Everywhere you’re driving you’re trying to punch it. So I’m not so sure about used.
For the extra 20k get the hellcat, fuck it....a race car is worth a Payment plan.
LetsGoToMarsMan hell fucking now you can not . I wish I’m sure we both do , they’re still in the mid 40s on average. The gt500 has reached 30k just now .
Money aside I would rather the Scat because it is more pleasing to drive in that it "feels" more powerful with a more torque feel
He is spoiling us Mopar fans😍😍😍, I want the hellcat.
Almost look like a Camaro from the front
Darion Smith the camero looks like the charger because it came out after the charger.
Do you have the scatpak?
moescolla no I had a 15 Hellcat Charger but traded it for a 19 Alfa Romeo Giulia. Bad idea kinda 😩😩😩
007 oh ok
I’m sure that Giulia is still fun though
The next person who says they want all wheel drive muscle cars I'm blowing up their she shed
Just tell them they do have awd muscle cars the Jeep Grand Cherokee and Dodge Durango both come in the 5.7, 6.4 and Grand Cherokee trackhawk 6.2 supercharged
4 wheel drive wagon
Amen Paul !! Corn Ballitis !!!
Paul Lubbers yeah nothing is wrong with the option though. You don’t think about it bc you probably don’t deal with the snow
Paul Lubbers people today don’t know how to properly drive RWD, and because of that always want AWD to save them and make them think they’re a better driver than they actually are.
This dude must be short because he keeps complaining about how big the car is.
With the hood open, the car blocks his sunlight there's your answer.
LOLOL
He is short lol
Yeah he is probably 4"9
I'm a short guy and my friend's 300C feels like a big car lol
That torque flight ZF is a monster.
It snaps through the gears
Best bang for my money
It’s an outstanding transmission. I’ve had a lot of auto transmissions over the past 36 years, usually with a high stall converter for the track. This is the first auto trans that I’ve owned that can 60 ft as well as my other autos without a stall converter. It knows when to up/down shift. It’s so good.
jeff grabowski yes sirrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Love it on my JGC. Just pop her into sport mode and go.
That engine sounds so good.
Just remember when he says it scares him... that’s a good scare not a bad scare. The only scary thing is the 20k difference between both of these vehicles. Another informative review by the way.. keep them coming.
4.3 second 0-60 is very conservative for the scat pack. Especially with the widebody. I have a 2019 scat pack charger and I put 275 all season continental extreme contact tires on it. I got 4.0-4.2 seconds for the most part. One time I hit 3.9!
If you put them on 305s or 315s you’ll surely get 3.5
😂
@@tristonmanuel6813 😂
Keeping the mistakes in, I like it.
The scatpak actually puts out 500+ hp at the crank and 425-430ish at the wheel.
Can’t beat that for 40Gs
moescolla they going as low as 30k in Va , 2019 models, can’t beat it best bang for the buck
Keon Linyear no doubt
Got mine over the summer for 36k w/ Memorial Day discount
Not brand new brand new you’re paying over 40 for it I just bought one
William Rose Dealership In Stafford, Va got them goin for a little over 30k
@@williamrose7818 i got mine brand new for 36K
“Rob I’m trying to film!”
I would be Rob “I’m sorry, I couldn’t resist” 🤣
@Ag Performance 6:24
Glad to see someone else couldnt get launch control to work either. I had it in my 2015 challenger and couldnt get it to work, I just spun the wheels (I assumed I was doing it wrong). I've never tried launch control on my scat pack charger though, I feel no need to use it. They did such a good job with traction control in this car. It really is there just to prevent you from killing yourself. It still let's you burn out and even slide a bit without cutting power. I think it's really just designed to keep you straight-ish (which is what you want) I remember traction control systems that would kill the power at the slightest slip and it was awful
The only disappointment with dodge is no interior updates.
The interior is toooo old.
Trenton.T Channel it hasn’t been any longer than any other vehicle. 4 years and they changed minor things last year
False 2015 was a good update and minor update this year for 2019. Why change what’s not a problem
Would love the Carbon Fiber like the Ford bit*hes !!
Interior and hp thats all they really need
I like dis 1 better than the cat😎
Thank you Sofyan, thank you so much for giving the engine specs and discussing the exterior first and then going into the interior. My OCD used to kill me when you used discuss the engine after doing the exterior and then the interior and then the engine. It just used to feel in organized. Love your reviews. Never miss it.
Loved the drive of this vehicle. It reminds me of the smoothness that older American sedans had. I drove a Scatpack (non-widebody) and even in that car the power was really good. I think there needs to be an AWD variant for all that power. If you own one of those in a climate where the seasons change you could really wind up in major trouble with just RWD. The build quality is the biggest thing that pulled me away from it when I drove it though. The center stack trim piece seemed to be misaligned. When I went to straighten it the whole thing started to come apart. NOT what you want, especially in a 50k+ car. The other thing was the 🦵 room. As big as it looks if you’re a taller front seat driver the rear seat room is very GTIish.
Thanks for continuing to bring us all the cool stuff we want to see 🤟
Great Review! I'm interested in Dodge Chargers now. The Scat pack Wide body to be exact.
This sounds better than the Hellcat to me. Definitely the sweet spot. But those tires are probably $$$...
lol did u see the mpg 8.5 premium fuel only oof
L.A. Gaming lol yup but I think people who buy these vehicles buy them to have fun in them I don’t think they care about the MPG.
On the video yes.
In person no.
I have a ‘17 T/A 392, I usually average about 17mpg, and I do get on it. I don’t know what they did to get 8 mpg
L.A. Gaming they get 8 because the reviewers punch on it and leave them idling for a long time they average about 15-18 mpg and that’s with hard driving
Hell yeah its better! Naturally Aspirated over Forced Induction anytime.
i ordered my 2019 scat pack when they opened up at my dealer and absolutely love it! ive since upgraded the suspension with Eibach springs, and put some beefy 315s in the back with 295s up front on some Feradda wheels. cant wait to do my big cam with intake and longtubes next year! she runs 12.3 in the quarter now
You’re telling me you’re not in the 11s with 315’s? I pulled 12.3 with 245s... With 305 I guarantee you I’ll get this in to the mid 11 range
@@williamrose7818 i think its a timing thing, just a bit of operator error haha. My PB is 12.33, im close! But there arent many stock scats breaking 11s
Just found your channel, I’m not even half way through and I think I’m in love with it. Keep up this content, man!
I’ll be getting my 392 scatpack at the end of this month !! Can’t wait
Did you get it
Lol
@@menacemafia5672 I hope he did
How’s it been so far dawg?
Can’t wait to get the new HellCat in Forza Horizon
I’m not a noob they should add the widebody charger
They need to fix the sound first
I’m not a noob I can’t wait for forza 8 these cars are way too outdated
I’m not a noob what new hellcat
😂😂😂😂😂
13:50 that frieza laugh tho💯
Nomo 4u good catch 😂
Lol
That’s the sound of freedom coming from those tail pipes baby 🇺🇸
Freedom pipes?
That was a great review, we don't get these in Australia but we get the same setup in a Chrysler 300 SRT with the same specs. I have just purchased one and love it.
Sofyan--"ROB I'M TRYING TO FILM!" OMG DEAD 💀
I drive 6spd black Challenger T/A and I love my life. THANK you Dodge.
Did I just watch a charger review? Yes.
Am I gonna watch this one as well cuz it's redline reviews? Yes.
Great review! I own a ‘16 Scat Pack and I’m thrilled with the power. I will be getting the widebody Hellcat sometime next year.
A lot of Scat Pack owners said that getting a Hellcat was a mistake. More power, but there's something about an NA engine that screams old skool.
Pick me up? Stop being selfish
Glen English why not just keep the scat pack?
JUSTSWITCHED! I am.... getting both. Wifey wants a Hellcat! Who am I to argue? It’ll be here tomorrow
I daily my ‘17 Scat Pack with no regrets. Puts a smile on my face each and every drive. It sounds like Dodge has improved the exhaust note even more in this evolution of the Scat. I wouldn’t mind owning a Hellcat one day, but it’s kinda hard to justify the extra $20K, unless I go for a used one.
how's it holding up?
Dodge needs to make the two fronts seats thinner to maximize rear leg capacity. Those seats are so thick.
I own one, i agree.
This Is beautiful. Wide body cars really aren't my cup of tea but this I'm liking. I love what FCA has done with this platform.
Why the beep there ? 6.what ?? :P
That's what I'm saying
We accidentally said 6.2L instead of 6.4L lol
Redline Reviews da disrespect! looool
@@theredline I honestly thought you said 6.f*ck liters.... I think that will be better than 6.2.
@@mikeb7943 yeah that would've been the more American thing to say anyway
I believe they don't offer the AWD in the ScatPack because it would be too close to the Hellcat in terms of 0-60 times. It would take away from the sales of the Hellcat and customers would opt for the AWD Scatpack since it would be much safer than the Hellcat, and you would be able to drive it in the winter too, whereas the Hellcat, its too difficult to drive in the winter, and people store it away until summer (In Canada at least). I could be wrong, but thats my guess :). Btw awesome videos! Cheers!
Cant wait for straightpipes review on these
6.4 N/A V8 is the sweet spot !
Powerful engine with the amazing exhaust note and it's reliable.
Going awd will take away some of that excitement imo.
And just take a look at the engine placement in comparison to the shock towers or front wheels. Youd have to put that engine way forward to be able to fit half shafts and not to mention all that suspension and knuckle work that needs to be done for clearance. Slapping awd with the longitudinal mounted v8 will just ruin the balance.
God that sound coming out of the charger is orgasmic!!!!
Fantastic Review! Classifying the Scat pack as “so old school, so charismatic” is spot on! Try not to smile while driving one of these...I just bought one 😂
You can literally buy a decently used 2015-17 hellcat for $45-50k and spend a good $5-6k for an aftermarket widebody kit. That price tag is crazy.
If you buy a used hellcat you’re buying yourself into a nightmare of problems.
Ahh I was waiting for this one!
I like my center stack. Everything is where I want it and it works quick. No AWD in a V8 model because there’s no room. Also no spare because in the V8 models no room for the battery up front, so it goes in the back and leaves no room for a spare.
I’d take the RT scat pack 😍. But to be safe I’d take it with all the safety tech.
"This car literally is a huge middle finger to electrification" 😊😍
Sofyan, you are so right. ScatPack has huge balls!
Thank you, excellent review!
went to the dealer to get a 2019 Hellcat, left with a 2019 scatpack, after test driving the scatpack I didnt bother with the Hellcat, the price and power combination couldnt be beat.
smart man most want a hellcat jus to say i got one and probably will never really enjoy the full potential of it on the street thats more a track car ...scatpack is plenty i got one as well enjoy salute
SkatZilla_392 the best thing about owning a hellcat is that you can be all the cocky 392 owners 😁
X1-800-GETWRECK don’t get me wrong I love what dodge doing period & I love dodge performance side ..but I still believe the 392 is plenty for most it jus really depends what fits the individual...I enjoy the hell out a 392 still plenty fast & faster then most I’m content ...
They definitely lied about that 40 inches of backseat legroom.
Its probably based on your average height person, not with the seat all the way back. Everything in cars is based off of average people...
"Rob I'm trying to film" sounded like "mom I'm trying to film" 😁
I saw a redeye charger at cvs last week. What a car
An outstanding look at the best value big HP Chargers, very informative!
Mopar sure do make a great sounding V8. Wish we got them in Aus, though the sales volume would be tiny.
I believe you still get the 300 SRT don't you?
This is my dream car!
Greetings from Panama
Same here. 😁
I drive a 2018 RT+, definitely will be looking into getting a widebody Charger in the upcoming years
485hp in a Scatpack is no laughing matter and is pretty much the sweet spot when it comes to power and speed...BUT...the SRT Hellcat is certainly the hot🔥spot for me,in my opinion! Lol I would still take a Scatpack any day! I just hope Dodge doesn't go electric in the future. If it's not broken,and you're winning,why fix anything?
Damn bro, this comment age perfectly
Sofyan has officially taken the tittle as the best car reviewer keep up the good work team
Great review as always. Not sure I'd want to lug around 4300lbs. But its a bad ass car.
I been here since the 13 optima sx review and to see how far this channel has come is amazing
Love it for 50k and almost 500 hp it's a win😏👌👏
I’m actually buying this car this week. I had the 2016 Charger Scat Pack. Going to the wide body, I’m really excited.
The Dodge Charger Pursuit (police package) comes with a 5.7 Hemi and AWD
Ryan T they the police need the base engine with 300hp, I need a slight chance to get away
Sadly that's mated to the garbage 5 speed. Any advantage you might get from awd would be lost on the 5 speed which is significantly slower than the 8 speed. Plus, it's in the 5.7L which is still fast and fun but really has no need for awd. I never had an issue with my 5.7L charger or challenger, I even got snow tires for the challenger and it was serviceable in light snow. The wide body scat pack doesnt really need awd either as the fat tires do more than enough to put the power down.
@@VanquishedAgain That awd is welcomed up in the northern states. Nothing light about our snow.
@@sweatervestguy I was in Massachusetts... the key to remember is that AWD in one of these cars wouldn't make a damn bit of difference with the tires they have. They are not meant for snow or even cold weather. So if you need to buy snow tires anyways, you dont really need awd. I drove my challenger in up to 3 inches of snow. If you need to drive through anything else you should have an suv and not a low slung charger with 485 or 707 hp...
THAT'S the one i'd get
This guy is the best reviewer. Period.
He's not the best, But he is good.
You are so lucky in states, in France the driver is drowning under the taxes. We will soon have to ride on horseback.
@mike a No, lol it's not free ! you've have to pay monthly xD
My mom passed away a few weeks ago and this week I inherit half a million dollars. Fuck it I’m buying it
Shane Arnold damn man.
5:17 i like how the MPG goes down in real time as you floor it lol
The reason why awd is not offered in the v8 models is because muscle cars are supposed to be v8s and rwd only just like back in the day. You add on awd, and its not classified as a muscle car anymore
I always wondered why they don’t offer a panoramic sunroof on the Dodge Charger when it is available on a V6 Chrysler 300S..
I wondered the same thing may be a different roof or something
Wonder if it has to do with weight.
Even if they offered it, I wouldn’t option it. I don’t want less structural rigidity and glass above my head in a 500hp car
eric ch true I wouldn’t buy it either. I don’t even like sunroofs especially living in Las Vegas where it’s too sunny and hot to even use it... I was just curious as to why it wasn’t offered.
717 flyer yea that’s my guess , weight and dangers of having so much glass in a performance car.
I really enjoyed your review. Nice job.
I prefer the Scat Pack as a daily driver over the Hellcat because you can floor it and not lose traction like you do on the Hellcat... Also you can save money on, gas, tires and insurance costs... If I was going to the track everyday then I would get the Hellcat..
How was the wine? Ha ha!!!!! You are the best in all actuality. I look for redline reviews. This is what I was looking for. Thanks
That screetch "Rob, I'm trying to film" at 6:27 automatically precludes you from ever driving something with more than 200hp ever again.
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In my opinion you should get the scat pack Because you can a hellcat blower for about 2500 and a adapter kit for about 3500 so therefore for 6K you can basically get well into the 600hp range not including other bolt ons that would complement it
Go on..... 👀
“The middle seater is shafted” i see what you did there because when I get that terrible seat you get f*cked lmao, great video
For the Infotainment screen and layout, to me looks simple but modern. Bigger screen and updated technology comes with a cost. There is only so much real estate in the center stack. That cost would probably be A/C vents.
As for the no AWD…..my logic would be that is the weather is bad enough to need AWD it might be a reason to think about whether you should be out driving at all. Besides….would you want to risk damage or an accident with a muscle car of this caliber? It’s not my driving during weather that I am worried about…..it’s the other drivers!
Finally Dodge went for the flat bottom steering wheel.
It's better if price is your main concern and you want rear cup holders. Otherwise, not even close.
In my opinion the 6.4 sounds better then hellcats 6.2
Had a 2016 Scat Pack loved it but it had 245's and would never hook up as you would expect...still not impressed that even with 305's never gonna get a 4.3 on a street with it...only track I guess which is a shame. I traded it in for the 2018 Durango SRT and it does not disappoint...I can pull consistent 4.3 0-60 with no upgrades on any street.
At that "Launch" segment he looks as if he was holding on for dear life---ROTFL
They dropped the V8 AWD system as an option for the Charger when they switched from the 5 speed auto to the larger ZF 8 speed, because there's simply not enough room in the chassis. That iron 5.7/6.2/6/4 Hemi block is HUGE compared to the 3.6 V6.
You also forgot to mention that the Widebody package on the Charger also includes the formerly SRT-exclusive 3-mode adaptive suspension along with the 11" wide wheels and 305 tires and 6-pot Brembos (big Brembos are a $$ option on the narrow body), and that the base Scat still comes with 245/45R20 rubber on 9" wide wheels as standard. To get the big brakes, adaptive suspension and 275/40r20 on 9.5" wheels on a narrow body is about $3500. So there's a lot of bang for the buck opting for the $6000 Widebody package.
1:56 I guess the Shelby GT350R Mustang isn’t included??
I took down a Shelby GT 350 mustang with my 2019 scat
I don’t care about the difference, they both look awesome.
I could easily do a drive by in this one, my Range Rover broke down in the same block that I did a drive by on,
4:06 misaligned panels but, to be expected with Dodge.
I hate how the Challenger taillights are misaligned. Seems so common with these cars
He said 6.2. What a great review
Great car but I’d wait for interior update before buying one.
You might be waiting forever. This is the 2020
@@NetomaMusic I'd argue that anyone could afford one, It's not far from an RT, it's just a matter of being able to pay for maintenance.
I got a Camaro because the interior was so beautiful. As soon as the charger looks like a 50-60k car, I’ll upgrade.
HempWorkouts makes sense, I’ve heard 2021 for total makeover. 🤞
I complained about no V8 with AWD as well. I think they don't do it because of the 8 speed being so long, they can't fit a transfer case behind it with the added cylinders (overall length). I also sat in a V6 AWD charger and it didn't feel like it had much legroom. I wonder if the AWD V6 models also have different firewall locations.
Just got a 2019 destroyer grey scatty for 34k plus package too 😉
What package?
i hope you destroy it
@@Abdullah-S503 your sarcasm is great but c'mon lol
How much did you get off MSRP? I'm looking for a Challenger Widebody manual. Looking to get 16k off MSRP if I can get it with employee discount
Plus Package? That price is hard to believe. Even if you could qualify for all the rebates I don't think you could get a well equipped scat pack for that price.
I really hope Dodge doesn't redesign the challenger like what they did to the charger, I hope they keep the current challenger look for the next 5+ years.
It’s time for a new platform and new interior design
Totaled my scat pack last month in the rain , be careful insurance will refuse to fix or replace all parts . Getting another one
I dunno how many versions of a old car Dodge can expect to do
Had to subscribe, amazing review
looool should’ve showed this video before the Widebody Hellcat
That thing revs really dang fast!
So they have a RT, GT, 392 scatpack, hellcat ,demon, and a redeye ??dodge got the finess of the year
Mac Thomas chargers don’t have a demon or redeye model
Don't forget the basic sxt v6 also.
I haven’t watched any of your videos in a while but still subbed lol wow your videos are way more fun now
Welcome back! We try to continuously improve and make the videos more fun with each one ;) Hope you enjoyed it!
That was a mistake taking away the fog lights. That’s one thing I hate about my 19 SP Charger.. the headlight output is horrible! Compared to my 18 Accord Sport.
So they really did? I love the LED fogs on my 2018 Scat
Do you have factory hids? If not consider getting some or retrofit better projectors and bulbs
@@NS3825 oh gosh yea. He said they were standard in the video but idk. My challenger had halogen and they were terrible. Never ever buying another car without hid or led lights. (My 2018 has hid and led fogs though). The fogs are bright enough to be headlights, lol
Landon Scott They look terrible compared to your Accord bc the Honda has LED headlights versus the HIDs on your Charger.
I like a nice set of bright driving lights on any sports car!
It would be nice for them to offer awd versions but I understand why the V6’s only get it. The scat packs and above are meant for the drag trip and track. Awd is just more weight and more parts for the engine to operate which will lower both its 0-60, top speed, and cornering capability.