Wait, let me get this straight. If this is all just Jennifer's memory then... back then Jennifer and Wendy were best friends, right? Until Jennifer found Brown and he became Jennifer's new favourite. Wendy, consumed with jealousy, plotted with the help of the Aristocrats to get Jennifer back. She is obsessed with Jennifer, and if she can't have her, no one can, right? So as punishment for betraying her, Wendy killed Brown. Is that right? Then the slap in the face happens, they split up, the end?
Blu berryStar Personally, I think killing Brown was more of a twisted, "Now he's out of the way, so we can be friends again!" thing. But yeah, that description sounds about right.
Blu berryStar Yeah i guess. Basically the whole story, in my opinion, is about the many faces of love, the concept of unrequited love, and apparently forms of escapism from a morbid reality, in this case, the many ways the kids had to cover their shitty realities. I didn't find the game disturbing at all, and i also liked how it included abandoned orphanage elements as a background, it makes you think: if in that epoch things could be as shady as they were in the game, could minor incidents like the ones in the game not been widely known? What if things like that actually happened? Also, compared to the number of the orphans and the minimal staff, the manor in which the orphanage is actually set is huge and extremely fancy, apart from the parts that the kids doodled over or trashed, and more incredible is that it looks realistically as if people live in it, as opposed to the spotlessness of the common haunted videogame mansion. Anyway, great game, it makes you think: what if a society were run by children?
Blu berryStar Of course one can't actually tell what is really happening in the game, since you can argue that it can be simply a ghost-story being told by Gregory, or maybe Jennifer is dreaming in the mode of being a story told by Gregory, we can also say that Wendy might be in control of the narration, and that she's leading Jennifer to the repressed memories and feelings while simultaneously taking part in those memories as if unaware of her active engagement in facilitating them, also it's interesting to note that Jennifer is the lone survivor of not only the orphanage massacre but the airship crash that was thought to have no survivors.
I completely forgot about the airship. It's as if they died twice. But why would an airship carry orphaned children in the first place? I know it's in the news clipping but it still doesn't make sense. It could be the imagination or story from one of the children? Since there are so many drawings of the airship fish pinned on the wall. This game confuses me...
Blu berryStar The orphans aren't on an airship, Jennifer is recollecting events that happened to her years ago she's repressed. Now at the age of 19-20, she remembers her childhood. But like how real memories from long ago work, she's mixing-up memories of things that were similar that appeared around the same time. Jennifer became an orphan because she and her parents were on an airship that crashed. Her parents died in the accident, and Jennifer was the only survivor. The crash landed near Gregory's cabin, who took her in and dressed her and treated her like his dead son, Josh. Jennifer sensed he was a kind but confused and mentally unstable man after the death of his son, and ultimately was found by Wendy, who began to treat Jennifer (dressed as a boy) as a prince in a castle she would rescue as a princess. They ran away together to the orphanage, and it goes on from there..
I love this game. Most people complain about Jennifer being 'weak' when they don't seem to realize that these are literally Jennifer's memories trying to resurface. So even though she's now 19, and we see her as 19, in this scene, as a child, that's how she looks to everyone else. She couldn't fight back against the girls because back then she didn't, and we were reliving her memories, if not in a twisted away. They also don't think about the era the game takes place in. She's actually a very strong character. One of my favorites.
the reason why she keep took the pain is becoz of her love..she just thinks its fine coz they just role playing..she love that blondie..but that blondie mandy waka lala bimbang is a psychopath that jealous of her browneis dog..
Well. She was meant to be weak. After the abuse and trauma she had in the orphanage she grew up to be this weak-willed adult to scared to impose herself, and the game is her trying to find anything in her past that can make her stronger. Hence, comes Brown. A pivotal character in her development that, being a dog, represents loyalty, courage and the protection she desperately needs. In the last chapter, after all her traumas being revisited, Jennifer is able to hold the good memories of her childhood. That's why the atmosphere is so nostalgic in the last chapter right before the end. I see it as Jennifer finally finding the little happiness she had in the orphanage. And she then chooses to keep Brown treasure deep inside of her fondest memories.
Also, due some of the costumes in the game. I like to think they are references to what kind of adult Jennifer grew into. The fancy sports lady, i think should symbolize Jennifer getting adopted by someone rich enough to finance this hobby. That i imagine her being quite bad at it, since she's so frail and easily startled. The Maid Outfit could refer to Jennifer trying out to sustain herself by becoming a hired maid for someone. Since she is very well experienced in cleaning. That was her main chore around the orphanage which i think it makes her good at it or at least familiar enough so that it's her career of choice. The nurse outfit could refer to Jennifer finally moving up in life a bit, by choosing a more profitable and more charitable path by aiding wounded people. Probably in World War II, since the game takes place in 1930ish. However, i can't think anything about the Octopus Costume. Maybe it's a joke alternative costume like the magical girl for Heather in Silent Hill 3. The Ragdoll is obviously a reference to the humanlike dolls that the orphans drag around and beat. I think that's most likely how Jennifer sees herself due to her low self-steem. Just something that others punish without a reason or just to get some steam off.
This scene is so fucking powerful. I love how, as an adult, she cries and sobs and looks utterly helpless in front of a group of snickering children, but than when she hits her tipping point, where before in the past she might have become a sobbing heap, she finally lets her sorrow manifest into anger as she balls up her fist shaking with fury, and finally rises to her feet in defiance to the children who put her through so much pain, and meets them face to face in the body she was hurt in. This scene perfectly captures what it's like as an adult to go through and experience the memories of the abuse you went through as a child. And just how powerful it is to let all that pain become rage and refuse to forgive the people who hurt you. Everyone who is responsible in making this scene happen has my highest respect. I feels good to see trauma done right for a change.
This is BY FAR my favourite scene in the whole game. After so much abuse, bullying, and death threats, killing Brown was the straw that broke the camel's back. I absolutely love Jennifer here. She realises she can't grin and bear it, and has to face up to them and FORCE them to back off by beating up their own leader. Wendy deserved it quite frankly. If you want your friend back, you don't make them the scum of the orphanage.
Wendy was awful and obsessive. She deserved a bit more than a slap in the face, but I guess that's what she got when he later plan for revenge ended up getting her killed. The only time she actually regrets her actions is when she gets the rest of the children killed. She really is a terrible person.
I bet Wendy didn't expect Jennifer would still retain the spirit and confidence from loving her dog when she slapped her. She thought that she would run back to her and love her like before. That scene was satisfying to watch after what poor Jennifer went through
Oh absolutely not. I mean look at Amanda, she's on the same level as Jennifer (if not maybe a hair higher) and she's the biggest suck up and henchmen to Wendy. If Amanda is gonna follow any instructions, then why wouldn't Jennifer?
I'm kinda glad they changed the main character into being an adult through most of the game, because this scene is so much more poignant with the character change. Like, there's added levels of depth and complexity to the plot. In short: Much sadness, such good, wow!
I adopted a brown pup a few months before I got this game and played it with him at my side. Such emotional power, vulnerability, anguish. And it's way of attaching you to a supporting character and then taking it away. I probably sat on my chair a good 15 minutes after I first saw this scene, processing all the events that lead up to this. And hugged my pup. Had a big impression on me. Jennifer was relatable. Masterpiece. Back in good ole 2006.
It's the single scene in the entire game where Jennifer actually pushes back against the constant bullying from the other girls (and boys, presumably) at the orphanage. Sadly, Brown dying had to be the catalyst. Makes Jennifer a bit less likable to me. It's only after they kill her dog that she finally has enough? She's a very pathetic character and that's in no way an exaggeration, it's by definition.
@@heyhey7708 You two are idiots. You don't excuse the abusive behavior of children, psychopathic behavior I might mention (most serial killers were cruel to animals, even killing them), because "they're just kids". If they were real, they would have been sent off to get serious psychological counseling. I pray to fucking *God* you two don't have kids of your own if you let something like this slide. You are clearly not equipped to be in charge of another human's life.
In video games I've had to fight psychopaths, tortured spirits and hell creatures. But nothing has stuck in my mind as being as cruel and hate worthy as Wendy.
even though Wendy deserved this for her wrongdoings, i still feel pity for her. Jennifer was her one and only friend, but she destroyed their friendship/love by ordering the others to bully Jennifer and by killing Brown. i don't know... this scene really makes me sad and the voice acting is so good, that it makes me shiver.
They are kids in an orphanage with no good adults to be there for them. They're not properly educated nor taken care of properly (by Martha and Hoffman). Those children just don't know any better (because of the adults don't taught them properly). I wish I can hate all of them, but all I can muster up is just pity for them. But I do truly hates the caretakers for neglecting their needs. That horrible Martha and that sexual predator Hoffman is not going to be a good role model for those poor children.
Dude, kids are sadistic, especially since the adults in the game don't care about them and abandoned them just like that in the orphanage, god, all the kids are so pitiful and had a terrible life..I'm gonna cry..
I still don't get why a game like this got banned. We get violent games like Grand Theft Auto, (a game where you can literally murder everyone walking on the street) which are loved by the media, yet a game that includes violence with children is quickly considered to be "evil" or whatnot.
They banned for brief scenes taken out of context, claiming it was "sexualizing minors, and encouraging pedophilia" even though it very much so was not.
Not only Wendy deserved such punishement from Jennifer,but all the other girls should get a good slap in the face.I am no violent woman,but if I were Jenny,I would of probably lost it due to my anger and punch Wendy instead of slapping her.
maybe she blame more to wandy blondie mandy wakala la la bim bang coz she is the leader of the group..plus they are all lesbian becoz of that pervy mofu teacher..
Poor Brown… I could never ever forgive those girls for doing that to my dog. I'd probably do worse than what Jennifer did. If I was in Jennifer's spot, it wouldn't just be Wendy getting slapped that's for damn sure. Slapping wouldn't be an option but punching would. What those girls did was absolutely horrible.
+ArtisticSpark Actually, the tragic element everyone seems to miss but is VITAL to understanding the plot and message of the entire game is that although Wendy sets up brown as the requested monthly offering and the girls kill brown, it's actually Jennifer who fulfills the request and offers him up. Yeah I know. It's screwed up! This is how she "broke the promise" to Brown, why she's called a "bad girl" by her memories, and why she says she's angry with and can't forgive herself. So freaking sad!!
+Callie Myers (CaliCat) It makes sense. Although Jennifer, at the very end of the game, left Brown on a lease and trapped him in the room alone forever in order to protect him, but seems like she's slowly killing him by starvation as if she was repeating the same mistake when giving away Brown as an offer to Windy and the other girls. Or the actions she's making doesn't justified her past mistakes. But either way I think she killed Brown regardless of it being accidental or not.
+Callie Myers (CaliCat) It makes sense. Although Jennifer, at the very end of the game, left Brown on a lease and trapped him in the room alone forever in order to protect him, but seems like she's slowly killing him by starvation as if she was repeating the same mistake when giving away Brown as an offer to Windy and the other girls. Or the actions she's making doesn't justified her past mistakes. But either way I think she killed Brown regardless of it being accidental or not.
+Callie Myers (CaliCat) It makes sense. Although Jennifer, at the very end of the game, left Brown on a lease and trapped him in the room alone forever in order to protect him, but seems like she's slowly killing him by starvation as if she was repeating the same mistake when giving away Brown as an offer to Windy and the other girls. Or the actions she's making doesn't justified her past mistakes. But either way I think she killed Brown regardless of it being accidental or not.
This story is so depressing. I cant even hate Wendy because of how horrible her upbringing must have been, as well as the rest of the "Aristocrats," no matter the horrible things they do
I honestly love the sound of this one slap as it contrasts with the cartoonish sound effects of the game; this one sound is harsh, real, and satisfying. One crash of a slap brought down tyranny while the rest were empty.
Rule of Rose deals with complicated human themes through an interesting lens in its narrative, in part since it stars a protagonist looking back at repressed trauma they have that's blurred together in her mind. An aside, I thought I recognized your name when I was catching up on my TH-cam comments. Believe it or not, I had seen your animations a few months ago when I was going down a small rabbit hole of TH-cam animations that might help connect some dots and inspire some ideas. I found the things you've made very inspiring, though I know you're just barely taking off the ground with the things you make. Don't be too hard on yourself, though I realize the lens of depression and self-hatred can be quite blinding. But from one stranger to another, just know I like what you create, and it's meant something to me. I hope times are good for you.
I wish this game wasn't so rare so more people could enjoy this game. I just finished it with the Good Ending. Wow, I never suspected this game would have such a deep impact and pull my heart strings so much, I'm speechless. One of the most poignant game stories, hell ANY STORIES, I've ever experienced. "Everlasting true love. I am yours." T_T
I love the comment section here. Everybody is so concerned about the plot and timeline. Massive props to you +AestheticGamer for seeming to completely understand it all and explain it clearly. I reviewed the game on my channel sometime over a year ago (Damn thing was half an hour long) and I dedicated the last 10 minutes to putting the game in chronological order. I really hate the way I edited the video, but your comments give me faith that I landed on the right theory.
Honestly this was so sad tho. The only really unlikable character was Hoffman, and he somehow escaped with receiving the assbeating he so richly deserved. :/
+Chika Okechi but there is also the theory Hoffman the rapist is killed by the children. however, if the children are capable of doing such a thing is unknown. but yes, this game is leaving a sad aftertaste that would last for a while.
rkb 1723 that is...kinda true and kinda not true, in one of the letters during "once upon a time" chapter it was stated that Hoffman left saying "all the children are growing up fast, there is no need for me to be here". why would Hoffman wrote this if he is led to be killed by the madman? And was the kitchen a mess when there is no adult managing the place during the last chapter?
Linalool Gemini I know about that theory, but I honestly don't think any of the kids killed anybody (no humans, anyway). The narrative goes through great pains to avoid portraying any of them as wholly unsympathetic, and since they didn't go the route of cheap thriller whose antagonist is murder children because "children are scary," I'm not convinced the implication is that Hoffman is dead. Or that Martha was murdered for...no apparent reason. The reason the game is so sad (at least to me) is that it revolves around traumatised/abused kids who are too young to learn coping strategies/know how to end the cycle of abuse, and so end up inflicting harm on the people (who are also kids) around them. I kinda think that Hoffman was only a boss fight because at one point (or maybe multiple), he assaulted Jennifer, but the more I think about it, the more depressed I get, so I'mma go 'head and leave that alone.
Chika Okechi(hug) that is exactly how I felt after finishing the game. this game made me want to help kids in need. the saddest part is when Jennifer "locked" up her best memories, and her best memories consisted only a handful of objects and people (Wendy and Brown).
nerdy _posta With Jennifer, yes, but Amanda still took joy in what she did (you can see her clearly smiling when sge tells Jennifer her dog was killed), and Wendy deserbed that beating a lot. She was a selfish sociopath who took out people in her way.
Even though Wendy was a complete ass , I still felt sorry for her. I mean, she killed Brown and that is... UNFORGIVABLE!!! But she was so lonely, Jennifer had been her only friend and she might have even loved her. But Jennifer eventually favoured Brown over Wendy and that's when it all went downhill...
This is by far my most favorit scene, because finally Jennifer does what I wanted to do since the beginning, but I wanted to slap the other as well, especially Diana and Amanda (DX) It surprises me to see that the other girls don't defend her and just look at the scene and then to stand back when Jennifer took off her brooch and throws it at Wendy
Very late response but I was returning to this video. While the children all do some bad things, they aren't bad children per say. There's evidence that Wendy's possessive behavoir towards Jennifer stems from being abandoned by her parents, she's sickly and was likely abandoned by her parents forever because she wasn't "good enough" for their love due to her frail condition, inability and higher needs due to her bad health. She's still a child and doesn't fully understand exactly what her parents did, but even a child can understand when they're unwanted and unloved. Her possessiveness of Jennifer and getting jealous over a dog stems from her insecurity and need to be love after being abandoned by the people who should've been the one to love her most, she actively wants love but doesn't understand as a child, and one who grew up lacking unconditional love, and frankly who's mind's been twisted by abusive caretakers at the orphanage. There's a reason after everything has been said and done, the more mature Jennifer at 19 recollecting these memories realizes they all were victims, and chooses to forgive all of the children at the orphanage despite all they did to her, she decides to forgive and to live on remembering them. Though they did some bad things, all of them were damaged and uncared for by the people who were supposed to be closest to them, failed by their parents, failed by the system for children without parents, and failed by the world as a whole, all of which simply didn't care about them or gave any of them the help, love, support or guidance they needed.
Including Wendy, they are just kids in an orphanage with no good adults to be there for them. They're not properly educated nor taken care of properly (by Martha and Hoffman). Those children just don't know any better (because of the adults don't taught them properly). I wish I can hate all of them, but all I can muster up is just pity for them. But I do truly hates the caretakers for neglecting their needs. That horrible Martha and that sexual predator Hoffman is not going to be a good role model for those poor children. That's why most if not all of the children ends up twisted like that. It's pretty sad.
This is definitely one of the best scenes besides the Orphanage (masacre) in the game. Jennifer finally fighting back against the bullying and standing up to the club was fantastic.
1:22 - 1:25 are the best scenes. When I first played it and which would've been more awesome if she went super saiyan on them and punched Wendy so hard they all turn dust and ash.
I love this game- I’m a Gen Z 98 but was poor growing up to owe consoles as a first generation American- But now as an adult and thankfully modifying my ps3 I was able to play this game. ❤ No ps1,ps3,ps4,ps5 games have ever showed me anything more powerful and relatable than this lost ps2 game.
Nunca antes me había sentido tan bien al ver como le dan su merecido al antagonista, Jennifer se ganó mi simpatía cuando abofeteó a Wendy lo único que podía pensar es, sí sigue golpeando a esa perra.
Jesus christ game! that's really depressingly messed up & sad Jennifer's past memory strongest to her hatred over her friends like that what the heck game?!?!O.O
If she'd killed my dog I'd probably beat her really badly and maybe even strangle her until I'd satisfaction... And I want to do it right now... Damn my anger issues.
+Anonimek KY Actually, the tragic element everyone seems to miss but is VITAL to understanding the plot and message of the entire game is that although Wendy sets up brown as the requested monthly offering and the girls kill brown, it's actually Jennifer who fulfills the request and offers him up. Yeah I know. It's screwed up! This is how she "broke the promise" to Brown, why she's called a "bad girl" by her memories, and why she says she's angry with and can't forgive herself. So freaking sad!!
Okay, first off, this whole Aristocrat Club is screwed up. Almost everything bad happen because of them. But it's beautiful story, I must tell. Have something very artistic in it. Anyway, you kinda cleared everything for me, thanks you. I don't really remember the plot anymore, everything kinda blurred out so I must admit, I forgot this part. Thanks again... Damn, this game is dark.
Jennifer = The Thundercats Fans The Dead Dog = Thundercats 1985 Wendy = Cartoon Network The Roses = Thundercats 2019 / #ThundercatsRoar Only Thundercats Fans Will Understand... P.s I'm Not a Thundercats Fan...
Wait so the whole story in the entire game was that Jennifer is a little girl after all???, like the character we were playing was not the present Jennifer but the future??? Or is it still the older Jennifer but she just recalled those memories??? Oh may gah I'm so confused halp😭😭😭
Jennifer repressed her memories of several traumatic tragedies that occurred close together in her past. The game is Jennifer, now 19-years old, sitting on a park bench alone, remembering from a bush of roses something from her childhood, and the whole game is her recollection of her past she'd repressed. But like how memories in the real world blur together sometimes when trying to remember things from childhood which were closely together and related, things sorta' blur together for her in her recollection. Simply put, the whole game is her reliving memories she repressed years later to face them finally and come to accept what happened to her.
.... remember Lucy from Elfen lied when she killed those kids for killing the puppy?? Well...thats nothing compared to what IM gonna do to these brats for hurting this dog..... there will be a lot of blood and rape...and broken bones
I've watched this scene a lot of times and thought what they were dragging was a bag where brown was. I turned resolution to 720 and was shocked it was just his body and not in a bag. Too graphic :'( huhu
Ok so I think this is another spoiler alert. So wendy told the girls that a wild dog will come but they were all lies until the girls go outside and start screaming because they get killed by a man..... I know its weird but that is the wild dog. So then Jennifer has to fight him and of course BROWN COMES BACK!!!!!! oh yeah and of course again Jennifer wins. But then Jennifer has to fight him again..... wendy dies when the man... takes her away after giving a gun to Jennifer.
Wait, can someone explain the game to me? I watched it a few years back, and then i didnt know english very well so i remember the events and what happens, but i don't get the story and i don't really have time to watch/play it all over again. Someone plz explain
Jennifer is relieving her childhood trauma, she completely blocked her memory from her past, Wendy and Jennifer were good friends in the past, despite how Jennifer was treated, she is fond of everyone weirdly, so Wendy loves Jennifer for that, then Jennifer got a dog named Brown and Wendy was jealous of Brown, so Wendy killed Brown, thinking Jennifer is just gonna accept every bullying that Wendy inflicted because she is viewed as meek and hopeless, but that backfires thus this scene
Wait, let me get this straight. If this is all just Jennifer's memory then... back then Jennifer and Wendy were best friends, right? Until Jennifer found Brown and he became Jennifer's new favourite. Wendy, consumed with jealousy, plotted with the help of the Aristocrats to get Jennifer back. She is obsessed with Jennifer, and if she can't have her, no one can, right? So as punishment for betraying her, Wendy killed Brown. Is that right? Then the slap in the face happens, they split up, the end?
Blu berryStar Personally, I think killing Brown was more of a twisted, "Now he's out of the way, so we can be friends again!" thing. But yeah, that description sounds about right.
Blu berryStar Yeah i guess. Basically the whole story, in my opinion, is about the many faces of love, the concept of unrequited love, and apparently forms of escapism from a morbid reality, in this case, the many ways the kids had to cover their shitty realities.
I didn't find the game disturbing at all, and i also liked how it included abandoned orphanage elements as a background, it makes you think: if in that epoch things could be as shady as they were in the game, could minor incidents like the ones in the game not been widely known? What if things like that actually happened? Also, compared to the number of the orphans and the minimal staff, the manor in which the orphanage is actually set is huge and extremely fancy, apart from the parts that the kids doodled over or trashed, and more incredible is that it looks realistically as if people live in it, as opposed to the spotlessness of the common haunted videogame mansion. Anyway, great game, it makes you think: what if a society were run by children?
Blu berryStar Of course one can't actually tell what is really happening in the game, since you can argue that it can be simply a ghost-story being told by Gregory, or maybe Jennifer is dreaming in the mode of being a story told by Gregory, we can also say that Wendy might be in control of the narration, and that she's leading Jennifer to the repressed memories and feelings while simultaneously taking part in those memories as if unaware of her active engagement in facilitating them, also it's interesting to note that Jennifer is the lone survivor of not only the orphanage massacre but the airship crash that was thought to have no survivors.
I completely forgot about the airship. It's as if they died twice. But why would an airship carry orphaned children in the first place? I know it's in the news clipping but it still doesn't make sense. It could be the imagination or story from one of the children? Since there are so many drawings of the airship fish pinned on the wall. This game confuses me...
Blu berryStar The orphans aren't on an airship, Jennifer is recollecting events that happened to her years ago she's repressed. Now at the age of 19-20, she remembers her childhood. But like how real memories from long ago work, she's mixing-up memories of things that were similar that appeared around the same time. Jennifer became an orphan because she and her parents were on an airship that crashed. Her parents died in the accident, and Jennifer was the only survivor. The crash landed near Gregory's cabin, who took her in and dressed her and treated her like his dead son, Josh. Jennifer sensed he was a kind but confused and mentally unstable man after the death of his son, and ultimately was found by Wendy, who began to treat Jennifer (dressed as a boy) as a prince in a castle she would rescue as a princess. They ran away together to the orphanage, and it goes on from there..
I love this game. Most people complain about Jennifer being 'weak' when they don't seem to realize that these are literally Jennifer's memories trying to resurface. So even though she's now 19, and we see her as 19, in this scene, as a child, that's how she looks to everyone else. She couldn't fight back against the girls because back then she didn't, and we were reliving her memories, if not in a twisted away.
They also don't think about the era the game takes place in. She's actually a very strong character. One of my favorites.
It took me forever to realize this about Jennifer. I hated her back when I first got this game, but now she's one of my favorite characters.
the reason why she keep took the pain is becoz of her love..she just thinks its fine coz they just role playing..she love that blondie..but that blondie mandy waka lala bimbang is a psychopath that jealous of her browneis dog..
Well. She was meant to be weak. After the abuse and trauma she had in the orphanage she grew up to be this weak-willed adult to scared to impose herself, and the game is her trying to find anything in her past that can make her stronger. Hence, comes Brown. A pivotal character in her development that, being a dog, represents loyalty, courage and the protection she desperately needs.
In the last chapter, after all her traumas being revisited, Jennifer is able to hold the good memories of her childhood. That's why the atmosphere is so nostalgic in the last chapter right before the end. I see it as Jennifer finally finding the little happiness she had in the orphanage.
And she then chooses to keep Brown treasure deep inside of her fondest memories.
Also, due some of the costumes in the game. I like to think they are references to what kind of adult Jennifer grew into.
The fancy sports lady, i think should symbolize Jennifer getting adopted by someone rich enough to finance this hobby. That i imagine her being quite bad at it, since she's so frail and easily startled.
The Maid Outfit could refer to Jennifer trying out to sustain herself by becoming a hired maid for someone. Since she is very well experienced in cleaning. That was her main chore around the orphanage which i think it makes her good at it or at least familiar enough so that it's her career of choice.
The nurse outfit could refer to Jennifer finally moving up in life a bit, by choosing a more profitable and more charitable path by aiding wounded people. Probably in World War II, since the game takes place in 1930ish.
However, i can't think anything about the Octopus Costume. Maybe it's a joke alternative costume like the magical girl for Heather in Silent Hill 3. The Ragdoll is obviously a reference to the humanlike dolls that the orphans drag around and beat. I think that's most likely how Jennifer sees herself due to her low self-steem. Just something that others punish without a reason or just to get some steam off.
@@Poetabrasileiro Octopus outfit: Jennifer discovered anime.
The voice acting gives me chills.
This scene is so fucking powerful. I love how, as an adult, she cries and sobs and looks utterly helpless in front of a group of snickering children, but than when she hits her tipping point, where before in the past she might have become a sobbing heap, she finally lets her sorrow manifest into anger as she balls up her fist shaking with fury, and finally rises to her feet in defiance to the children who put her through so much pain, and meets them face to face in the body she was hurt in.
This scene perfectly captures what it's like as an adult to go through and experience the memories of the abuse you went through as a child. And just how powerful it is to let all that pain become rage and refuse to forgive the people who hurt you.
Everyone who is responsible in making this scene happen has my highest respect.
I feels good to see trauma done right for a change.
This is BY FAR my favourite scene in the whole game. After so much abuse, bullying, and death threats, killing Brown was the straw that broke the camel's back. I absolutely love Jennifer here. She realises she can't grin and bear it, and has to face up to them and FORCE them to back off by beating up their own leader. Wendy deserved it quite frankly. If you want your friend back, you don't make them the scum of the orphanage.
Wendy was awful and obsessive. She deserved a bit more than a slap in the face, but I guess that's what she got when he later plan for revenge ended up getting her killed. The only time she actually regrets her actions is when she gets the rest of the children killed.
She really is a terrible person.
Yes she is
I searched "rule of rose Wendy gets rekt" and this came up. Thanks, youtube! helped me find the cutscene.
+Rubyred123 lol
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a true visionary of the time.
I bet Wendy didn't expect Jennifer would still retain the spirit and confidence from loving her dog when she slapped her. She thought that she would run back to her and love her like before. That scene was satisfying to watch after what poor Jennifer went through
Oh absolutely not. I mean look at Amanda, she's on the same level as Jennifer (if not maybe a hair higher) and she's the biggest suck up and henchmen to Wendy. If Amanda is gonna follow any instructions, then why wouldn't Jennifer?
I'm kinda glad they changed the main character into being an adult through most of the game, because this scene is so much more poignant with the character change. Like, there's added levels of depth and complexity to the plot.
In short: Much sadness, such good, wow!
I adopted a brown pup a few months before I got this game and played it with him at my side. Such emotional power, vulnerability, anguish. And it's way of attaching you to a supporting character and then taking it away.
I probably sat on my chair a good 15 minutes after I first saw this scene, processing all the events that lead up to this. And hugged my pup. Had a big impression on me. Jennifer was relatable. Masterpiece.
Back in good ole 2006.
"best scene"
*opens with dead dog *
me: ok
Julian Doyle :"v
It's the single scene in the entire game where Jennifer actually pushes back against the constant bullying from the other girls (and boys, presumably) at the orphanage.
Sadly, Brown dying had to be the catalyst. Makes Jennifer a bit less likable to me. It's only after they kill her dog that she finally has enough? She's a very pathetic character and that's in no way an exaggeration, it's by definition.
Lucifronz they are just kids
@@Lucifronz chill. Yeah they're just kids.
@@heyhey7708 You two are idiots. You don't excuse the abusive behavior of children, psychopathic behavior I might mention (most serial killers were cruel to animals, even killing them), because "they're just kids". If they were real, they would have been sent off to get serious psychological counseling.
I pray to fucking *God* you two don't have kids of your own if you let something like this slide. You are clearly not equipped to be in charge of another human's life.
“ARISTOCRATS???? YOU’RE JUST THE OPPOSITE!!!”
Fucking sick burn right there. They’re all just poor orphans 😂😂🤣
In video games I've had to fight psychopaths, tortured spirits and hell creatures. But nothing has stuck in my mind as being as cruel and hate worthy as Wendy.
even though Wendy deserved this for her wrongdoings, i still feel pity for her. Jennifer was her one and only friend, but she destroyed their friendship/love by ordering the others to bully Jennifer and by killing Brown. i don't know... this scene really makes me sad and the voice acting is so good, that it makes me shiver.
They are kids in an orphanage with no good adults to be there for them. They're not properly educated nor taken care of properly (by Martha and Hoffman). Those children just don't know any better (because of the adults don't taught them properly). I wish I can hate all of them, but all I can muster up is just pity for them. But I do truly hates the caretakers for neglecting their needs. That horrible Martha and that sexual predator Hoffman is not going to be a good role model for those poor children.
Here's where we say "The Queen is Dead, Long Live the Queen." This was such a good psychological game.
Dude, kids are sadistic, especially since the adults in the game don't care about them and abandoned them just like that in the orphanage, god, all the kids are so pitiful and had a terrible life..I'm gonna cry..
I still don't get why a game like this got banned. We get violent games like Grand Theft Auto, (a game where you can literally murder everyone walking on the street) which are loved by the media, yet a game that includes violence with children is quickly considered to be "evil" or whatnot.
Lesbians :v
Yet we have games like Alice: Madness Returns
They banned for brief scenes taken out of context, claiming it was "sexualizing minors, and encouraging pedophilia" even though it very much so was not.
Bloody Luna bullshit
I´ts all in the presentation.
GTA back in the day had cartoonish graphics while RoR had more realistic visuals.
Not only Wendy deserved such punishement from Jennifer,but all the other girls should get a good slap in the face.I am no violent woman,but if I were Jenny,I would of probably lost it due to my anger and punch Wendy instead of slapping her.
but all of them died so
extratao50 I meant before they died.
:O jajaja i understand
maybe she blame more to wandy blondie mandy wakala la la bim bang coz she is the leader of the group..plus they are all lesbian becoz of that pervy mofu teacher..
This is still, to this day, my favourite horror game and my most precious PS2 treasure. Such an unforgettable scene.
Poor Brown… I could never ever forgive those girls for doing that to my dog. I'd probably do worse than what Jennifer did. If I was in Jennifer's spot, it wouldn't just be Wendy getting slapped that's for damn sure. Slapping wouldn't be an option but punching would. What those girls did was absolutely horrible.
+ArtisticSpark Actually, the tragic element everyone seems to miss but is VITAL to understanding the plot and message of the entire game is that although Wendy sets up brown as the requested monthly offering and the girls kill brown, it's actually Jennifer who fulfills the request and offers him up. Yeah I know. It's screwed up! This is how she "broke the promise" to Brown, why she's called a "bad girl" by her memories, and why she says she's angry with and can't forgive herself. So freaking sad!!
Her mistake does reflect real life mistakes that we can never fix except move on in life :(
+Callie Myers (CaliCat) It makes sense. Although Jennifer, at the very end of the game, left Brown on a lease and trapped him in the room alone forever in order to protect him, but seems like she's slowly killing him by starvation as if she was repeating the same mistake when giving away Brown as an offer to Windy and the other girls. Or the actions she's making doesn't justified her past mistakes. But either way I think she killed Brown regardless of it being accidental or not.
+Callie Myers (CaliCat) It makes sense. Although Jennifer, at the very end of the game, left Brown on a lease and trapped him in the room alone forever in order to protect him, but seems like she's slowly killing him by starvation as if she was repeating the same mistake when giving away Brown as an offer to Windy and the other girls. Or the actions she's making doesn't justified her past mistakes. But either way I think she killed Brown regardless of it being accidental or not.
+Callie Myers (CaliCat) It makes sense. Although Jennifer, at the very end of the game, left Brown on a lease and trapped him in the room alone forever in order to protect him, but seems like she's slowly killing him by starvation as if she was repeating the same mistake when giving away Brown as an offer to Windy and the other girls. Or the actions she's making doesn't justified her past mistakes. But either way I think she killed Brown regardless of it being accidental or not.
Will never be able to get over the fact of how AMAZING the voice acting was in this scene.
I cried when I finish this game.
+AlkaizerEX me too
especially good ending
I agree, the most satisfying scene in the game. Damn, I gave a round of applauds for Jennifer!
damn is almost like a decade already... such a great game loved it , and i still have it with my PS2, this scene was just great
This story is so depressing. I cant even hate Wendy because of how horrible her upbringing must have been, as well as the rest of the "Aristocrats," no matter the horrible things they do
1:33. Now you can replay it till your hearts content.
SLAP SLAP SLAP SLAP SLAP
Yes please, and repeat.
it's cruel but I like it lmao
Best gift ever.
Now, can you excuse me for a sec?
Slap, slap, slap, slap (...)
I honestly love the sound of this one slap as it contrasts with the cartoonish sound effects of the game; this one sound is harsh, real, and satisfying. One crash of a slap brought down tyranny while the rest were empty.
Oh that is so satisfying!
2:07 this line hit way too close to home...
Rule of Rose deals with complicated human themes through an interesting lens in its narrative, in part since it stars a protagonist looking back at repressed trauma they have that's blurred together in her mind.
An aside, I thought I recognized your name when I was catching up on my TH-cam comments. Believe it or not, I had seen your animations a few months ago when I was going down a small rabbit hole of TH-cam animations that might help connect some dots and inspire some ideas. I found the things you've made very inspiring, though I know you're just barely taking off the ground with the things you make. Don't be too hard on yourself, though I realize the lens of depression and self-hatred can be quite blinding. But from one stranger to another, just know I like what you create, and it's meant something to me. I hope times are good for you.
@@AestheticGameromg tysm idk what to say dw I’m not as depressed as I used to be. But I do use those subjects as good storytelling ideas.
I wish this game wasn't so rare so more people could enjoy this game. I just finished it with the Good Ending. Wow, I never suspected this game would have such a deep impact and pull my heart strings so much, I'm speechless. One of the most poignant game stories, hell ANY STORIES, I've ever experienced.
"Everlasting
true love.
I am yours."
T_T
if john wick was the protagonist in this game this wont end well for them even though their kids
Yoda Woda yea I could see it ending badly
The kids would've been deleted immediately
I love the comment section here. Everybody is so concerned about the plot and timeline.
Massive props to you +AestheticGamer for seeming to completely understand it all and explain it clearly. I reviewed the game on my channel sometime over a year ago (Damn thing was half an hour long) and I dedicated the last 10 minutes to putting the game in chronological order. I really hate the way I edited the video, but your comments give me faith that I landed on the right theory.
Honestly this was so sad tho. The only really unlikable character was Hoffman, and he somehow escaped with receiving the assbeating he so richly deserved. :/
+Chika Okechi but there is also the theory Hoffman the rapist is killed by the children. however, if the children are capable of doing such a thing is unknown. but yes, this game is leaving a sad aftertaste that would last for a while.
rkb 1723 that is...kinda true and kinda not true, in one of the letters during "once upon a time" chapter it was stated that Hoffman left saying "all the children are growing up fast, there is no need for me to be here". why would Hoffman wrote this if he is led to be killed by the madman? And was the kitchen a mess when there is no adult managing the place during the last chapter?
Linalool Gemini I know about that theory, but I honestly don't think any of the kids killed anybody (no humans, anyway). The narrative goes through great pains to avoid portraying any of them as wholly unsympathetic, and since they didn't go the route of cheap thriller whose antagonist is murder children because "children are scary," I'm not convinced the implication is that Hoffman is dead. Or that Martha was murdered for...no apparent reason.
The reason the game is so sad (at least to me) is that it revolves around traumatised/abused kids who are too young to learn coping strategies/know how to end the cycle of abuse, and so end up inflicting harm on the people (who are also kids) around them. I kinda think that Hoffman was only a boss fight because at one point (or maybe multiple), he assaulted Jennifer, but the more I think about it, the more depressed I get, so I'mma go 'head and leave that alone.
Chika Okechi(hug) that is exactly how I felt after finishing the game. this game made me want to help kids in need. the saddest part is when Jennifer "locked" up her best memories, and her best memories consisted only a handful of objects and people (Wendy and Brown).
There is a theory based on the story sir peter (which hints to him being a pedophile) that he hung himself because sir peter is hung from a noose.
I could watch this scene so many times. It's a true work of art this game's story.
This scene makes me feel sad in side. Poor jennifer, the fat kid, and the red dress girl. :(
nerdy _posta With Jennifer, yes, but Amanda still took joy in what she did (you can see her clearly smiling when sge tells Jennifer her dog was killed), and Wendy deserbed that beating a lot. She was a selfish sociopath who took out people in her way.
And then the stray dog kills everyone
=V
Once Upon a Time...
aroukar47 a girl smacked a red dressed bitch for killing her dog.
@@bluerosekoro8875 😂 you made my day bro !!
A girl straight up bitch slapped her with her right..and left
GIVE HER THE CHAIR, JENNIFER!
TIGER-DRIVE THE SHIT OUT OF THAT BITCH!
RagnaRox brought me here. This scene is giving me hardcore Elfen Lied vibes. Maybe this was the inspiration for it. Both heartbreaking and empowering.
THIS IS ART.
Even though Wendy was a complete ass , I still felt sorry for her.
I mean, she killed Brown and that is... UNFORGIVABLE!!!
But she was so lonely, Jennifer had been her only friend and she might have even loved her. But Jennifer eventually favoured Brown over Wendy and that's when it all went downhill...
This is by far my most favorit scene, because finally Jennifer does what I wanted to do since the beginning, but I wanted to slap the other as well, especially Diana and Amanda (DX) It surprises me to see that the other girls don't defend her and just look at the scene and then to stand back when Jennifer took off her brooch and throws it at Wendy
Lord of the Flies but with little girls, so even creepier.
I don't know why, even with Wendy wrongdoings, I still kinda pity her for those... :(
Very late response but I was returning to this video. While the children all do some bad things, they aren't bad children per say. There's evidence that Wendy's possessive behavoir towards Jennifer stems from being abandoned by her parents, she's sickly and was likely abandoned by her parents forever because she wasn't "good enough" for their love due to her frail condition, inability and higher needs due to her bad health. She's still a child and doesn't fully understand exactly what her parents did, but even a child can understand when they're unwanted and unloved. Her possessiveness of Jennifer and getting jealous over a dog stems from her insecurity and need to be love after being abandoned by the people who should've been the one to love her most, she actively wants love but doesn't understand as a child, and one who grew up lacking unconditional love, and frankly who's mind's been twisted by abusive caretakers at the orphanage.
There's a reason after everything has been said and done, the more mature Jennifer at 19 recollecting these memories realizes they all were victims, and chooses to forgive all of the children at the orphanage despite all they did to her, she decides to forgive and to live on remembering them. Though they did some bad things, all of them were damaged and uncared for by the people who were supposed to be closest to them, failed by their parents, failed by the system for children without parents, and failed by the world as a whole, all of which simply didn't care about them or gave any of them the help, love, support or guidance they needed.
@@AestheticGamer Thanks man!
Including Wendy, they are just kids in an orphanage with no good adults to be there for them. They're not properly educated nor taken care of properly (by Martha and Hoffman). Those children just don't know any better (because of the adults don't taught them properly). I wish I can hate all of them, but all I can muster up is just pity for them. But I do truly hates the caretakers for neglecting their needs. That horrible Martha and that sexual predator Hoffman is not going to be a good role model for those poor children.
That's why most if not all of the children ends up twisted like that. It's pretty sad.
This is definitely one of the best scenes besides the Orphanage (masacre) in the game. Jennifer finally fighting back against the bullying and standing up to the club was fantastic.
oh I could watch this scene again and again
That's right Wendy, go cry to Mother.... oh wait, they're orphans, she has no mom, Ha-ha-ha!
Dude.... Why?
Demonos3 to far
HAHAHAH calm dude HAHAH
That's way too far...
I SALUTE YOU 😈
dark jokes...
This is the most beautiful video game of all time and it NEEDS a film adaptation.
For real, it's a shame this amazing story is hidden below an okay (at best) game
Omg, how I hate those girls!! Wendy is sick
Joana Kaulitz literally. xD
She has tuberculosis or something. She's always coughing' xD So yeah! Sick in the body and sick in the mind. Damn Sociopath.
1:22 - 1:25 are the best scenes. When I first played it and which would've been more awesome if she went super saiyan on them and punched Wendy so hard they all turn dust and ash.
Wendy is the perfect definition of SICKED TWISTED LOVE.
Press 6 as many times as you want. >:)
Brown only sacrifice was helping Jennifer to fight back
poor children...I think I now know why the heck I cried during the last chapter after the good ending
I love this game- I’m a Gen Z 98 but was poor growing up to owe consoles as a first generation American- But now as an adult and thankfully modifying my ps3 I was able to play this game. ❤ No ps1,ps3,ps4,ps5 games have ever showed me anything more powerful and relatable than this lost ps2 game.
Wendy obviously hasn't seen John Wick. She's lucky she only got the shit thwacked out of her.
Nunca antes me había sentido tan bien al ver como le dan su merecido al antagonista, Jennifer se ganó mi simpatía cuando abofeteó a Wendy lo único que podía pensar es, sí sigue golpeando a esa perra.
no era tan mala, sólo quería amor
Jesus christ game! that's really depressingly messed up & sad Jennifer's past memory strongest to her hatred over her friends like that what the heck game?!?!O.O
wendy has NO RIGHT to cry. honestly. THE POOR DOG
“Aristocrats?? You’re just the opposite!!” She Thanos snapped with that one line. 💀
I cry every time I see this scene.
Besides all the bad things Wendy did, i still fell bad for her.
I mean, How would *you* react If you Best friend replaced you for a dog?
She wasn't replaced. It's that she didn't know how to share love.
Especially when he finds out it was Wendy, the one person he thought was nice!
If she'd killed my dog I'd probably beat her really badly and maybe even strangle her until I'd satisfaction... And I want to do it right now... Damn my anger issues.
+Anonimek KY Actually, the tragic element everyone seems to miss but is VITAL to understanding the plot and message of the entire game is that although Wendy sets up brown as the requested monthly offering and the girls kill brown, it's actually Jennifer who fulfills the request and offers him up. Yeah I know. It's screwed up! This is how she "broke the promise" to Brown, why she's called a "bad girl" by her memories, and why she says she's angry with and can't forgive herself. So freaking sad!!
Okay, first off, this whole Aristocrat Club is screwed up. Almost everything bad happen because of them. But it's beautiful story, I must tell. Have something very artistic in it.
Anyway, you kinda cleared everything for me, thanks you. I don't really remember the plot anymore, everything kinda blurred out so I must admit, I forgot this part.
Thanks again... Damn, this game is dark.
And suddenly, I liked Jennifer about a thousand times more than before (and I already liked her... even if she was a doormat).
Little Jennifer is a BADASS :D
Jennifer = The Thundercats Fans
The Dead Dog = Thundercats 1985
Wendy = Cartoon Network
The Roses = Thundercats 2019 / #ThundercatsRoar
Only Thundercats Fans Will Understand...
P.s I'm Not a Thundercats Fan...
Good he's taking a break.
so we play as 19 years old jennifer whole time till this scene show what kid jennifer look like?
Wait so the whole story in the entire game was that Jennifer is a little girl after all???, like the character we were playing was not the present Jennifer but the future??? Or is it still the older Jennifer but she just recalled those memories??? Oh may gah I'm so confused halp😭😭😭
Jennifer repressed her memories of several traumatic tragedies that occurred close together in her past. The game is Jennifer, now 19-years old, sitting on a park bench alone, remembering from a bush of roses something from her childhood, and the whole game is her recollection of her past she'd repressed. But like how memories in the real world blur together sometimes when trying to remember things from childhood which were closely together and related, things sorta' blur together for her in her recollection.
Simply put, the whole game is her reliving memories she repressed years later to face them finally and come to accept what happened to her.
He ended up being far too drunk to be that mad...
Oh no, Cry's gonna be sad :(
1:35 the colors are alluding to the french revolution
Bully Jennifer:Jennifer calm
Blame Jennifer: Jennifer calm
Kill brown : RAGE Jennifer
.... remember Lucy from Elfen lied when she killed those kids for killing the puppy??
Well...thats nothing compared to what IM gonna do to these brats for hurting this dog..... there will be a lot of blood and rape...and broken bones
I've watched this scene a lot of times and thought what they were dragging was a bag where brown was. I turned resolution to 720 and was shocked it was just his body and not in a bag. Too graphic :'( huhu
Took Jen long enough to stand up to the Aristocrats, even though she did shrink a bit.
That little girl is slapping the skin off her face
ps 2 game is so gold......
Beat the shit out of her!! Murder that bitch!!
Jonathan vs Dio in AU Phantom Blood
For a little kid those slaps hit hard, I actually when from uh oh to oh holy crap
Ok so I think this is another spoiler alert. So wendy told the girls that a wild dog will come but they were all lies until the girls go outside and start screaming because they get killed by a man..... I know its weird but that is the wild dog. So then Jennifer has to fight him and of course BROWN COMES BACK!!!!!! oh yeah and of course again Jennifer wins.
But then Jennifer has to fight him again..... wendy dies when the man... takes her away after giving a gun to Jennifer.
Wait, Rule of Rose is a game?
I thought it was just a series made by Strawberry Nightmare/StrawberrySuicide115
Damn it reminds me of A Plague Tale
Here bc I read that this game was extremely controversial
i love Wendy
man i didnt think it was in her
Yeah... Cry bitch cry.. You deserve more than that (Wendy is hideous)
You are just the opposite.
I hate you, and i hate you, and you!
My favorite villain defeat.
DEFINITELY TE BEST SCENE!! DAT GURL DESERVES EVERY SLAP YO
HEAD-HEAD-HEAD-HEADSHOT
these girls are too sadistic for being so little for god's sake...wtf is going on in this game??
I want a girl friend that's as crazy and obsessed with me as Wendy was-
Jennifer derroto a Wendy xc
1-hit ko
God damn, thats all I can say
All I did throughout this scene was nod my head. Honestly, I was just so... GLAD. Proud. Of Jennifer...
I love this scene...so fucking much. It's just...so good. :.O
that game is crazynuts
once cry sees this in the walk though he is doing he might jump in the game and beat the shit out of every last one of them.
i don't really know this game that much.
Wait, can someone explain the game to me? I watched it a few years back, and then i didnt know english very well so i remember the events and what happens, but i don't get the story and i don't really have time to watch/play it all over again. Someone plz explain
Jennifer is relieving her childhood trauma, she completely blocked her memory from her past, Wendy and Jennifer were good friends in the past, despite how Jennifer was treated, she is fond of everyone weirdly, so Wendy loves Jennifer for that, then Jennifer got a dog named Brown and Wendy was jealous of Brown, so Wendy killed Brown, thinking Jennifer is just gonna accept every bullying that Wendy inflicted because she is viewed as meek and hopeless, but that backfires thus this scene
th-cam.com/video/I3yGE_VHN4M/w-d-xo.html
This guy here explanied the game beautifully, and the last 20-25 mins explains the plot. Hope you like it!
man! I wanna play this game so badly D'x but its 200 monies now T_T ... makes no sense... D:< I blame the neckbeards xD
When she slapped her I was like "you go girl keep hitting her HIT ALL OF THEM!!!"