Duke is such an alpha. I appreciate him steering the conversation away from the red pill concept of just critiquing women looking to be in relationships.
@@DFOlover1it was moreso a lack of understanding about what women mean when that statement is made. I definitely wish they would’ve gotten more insight for that first 15 mins, but overall the episode was great.
It depends how you view dating or courtship. It's honorable to want to save somethings for one person. That doesn't change your code or how you showing up as your best self but is a reflection of what you do with things sacred to you. It's a balance. Maybe you cook for your man sometimes but not everyday. New levels. New responsibilities. New requirements.
I think the intention of the statement discussed is "I'm not doing wifely things until i receive the same energy in return from a potential husband". Being a wife is not an award or trophy but an entry to a life partnership. If you spend your time praying, comforting, assisting, advising, worrying over a person...you want to make sure you are receiving the same thing. Even cooking and cleaning (or other chores) takes a level of consideration that you would want in return. She's not doing it simply it needs to be done but because she wants to be of service and assistance to her partner. A woman waiting until shes a wife for some (or all) of these things means she wants to wait for that consideration. Being a gentleman may be a false equivalent to this.
I love the different perspectives for this episode. I agree that taking sex off the table or slowing down (whichever suits you) is a wise decision. It helps you to see, hear, and understand clearly. Great episode! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
I been saying this to my friends, cut out the physical aspect and you'll be able to see clearly if the person truly embodies the partner you want in your life.
We name all of the outstanding benefits of waiting till marriage for sex for both sexes but then still say, “I’m not for it or against it”. 🤔There’s something behind that statement we are not talking about. Why not support waiting for marriage for sex? Is it because we don’t want to seem as hypocrites because then we wouldn’t be practicing what we are preaching?
I enjoyed this one! Especially as a woman who have heard several of my friends say this. I don’t think they mean it literally, I think what woman mean to say when they say this is I won’t do wifely things until I know for sure this person wants me. Some woman tend to come out the gate doing these things & what some men will do is benefit and enjoy what your giving w/ out giving anything in return. So it’s def a defense mechanism, I think a woman that desires to be a wife will always no matter do things to show this.
I like how Omar is very spiritually aware. You can tell he does a lot of shadow work but is also aware on how it can be hard for others to overcome their shadows too 👌🏽
Anything you have to announce you aren't fully committed to yet anyway. But ladies you shouldn't let men test you out. When we were dating my husband knew I could cook because I made him dinner, but i didnt consistently cook for him until I was his wife.
I do believe there are wife duties and i also agree you have to show a man that you are qualified. But i also feel like you can do certain things to show that you have the skill set to be a wife but don’t have to do the duties to the fullest. For example cooking you can cook for a man so he knows you know how to cook but cooking for him every night i think is a wife duty. Moving in is also a wide duty. I think spending a lot of nights at each other house can show that you guys can co exist. I think there a levels to it for sure. As woman i don’t think it’s safe to go all in if you don’t have the ring or the man hasn’t even leaned towards marriage.
Have been a girlfriend ,fiancé and then wife . The duties are different and can be subjective but yes the level of duty is definitely advanced as you grow in your relationship .
As a woman that loves and revere's God, my boundaries are no sex (and therefore pregnancy), cohabitation (so no cleaning each other's places), or combining of finances before marriage. My man is a man after God's heart that beliefs and practices the same things. Neither of us are virgins. Before we even met, we decided to give up those temporary physical pleasures and inevitable emotional hurt to do it God's way. Other than that, we're all in. Prayer every morning and night, bible study and date night once a week, checking on each other and building each other up daily, checking on each other's mental health, encouraging self care and time with friends, asking about each other's families, catering to each other's love languages, practicing good communication and working through our differences and disagreements, making future plans keeping each other in mind, discussing finances. We value acts of service so cooking for each other is out of love for each other and the food lol😄. We don't live together, so no folding his drawers just yet. When I'm his wife, I'll happily fold them because I'm not trying to unclog no shower drains honey😄. My man is handy and saves hundreds and thousands doing alot of work himself. God is good🙌
Thank you guys!! This opened my eyes because I was definitely that woman who said that. But y’all helped me realized that I was speaking and seeing through my past hurt.
Wow you guys this was an eye opener. You expanded the cliche way of thinking when it comes to this topic. Also, allowing me to be honest with myself as a woman. Thank you❤
This was such a great episode and much needed conversation! A lot of times us as women know how to go and get all of the degrees and accolades but when it comes to a man we don’t know how to vet a man. But I actually like the mics! Love y’all! Be safe and be blessed
Yes, i appreciate Omar's perspective. I work with foster youth and I am fully aware of the lack of love people receive in their childhood. There are also levels to ignorance...Many of these people don't know that they don't know....so they don't even have the awareness to seek healing or self-development.
I really appreciate the early arguments and perspectives. I think it more so speaks to the women who have not been giving the best to their partner Vs. someone who has and have not received a ring in return. I think wifey duties vary from person to person. What women are trying to say is that they are tired of being taken advantage of and nobody wants to be strung along. We should be taking our time in the beginning , gradually build, and using discernment . That’s why I feel you should never do something for anyone looking for something in return . It should always be from the kindness of your heart and with the understanding that a person does not owe you anything, even if you are doing “wifey activities.” The only things I feel can be withheld during the dating stage are serious financial commitments that can harm you, and drastic decisions that can be lifelong. Everything else should just be you being the best version of you to yourself and your person.
This just became my new favorite episode. All of y’all were on point. It was such a calming, therapeutic conversation. Excited for the recap of tomorrow’s event 🥃🥃🥃
This episode is beautiful and I love the conversation around steps, and different levels we have to get through. Jalon spoke about sports, and how athletes prepare all seasons. And a lot of gems were dropped . However Emotions matter, therapy also matters. But I think when women say I am not going to do wifey things for me, again who aren’t their husbands, is a very valid point to make. Two different behaviors come in especially when one doesn’t or didn’t grow up with a father. So you have to matter enough and hold values that would make her look and go hmm “okay you hold values and principles “. Again gender roles matter, but it doesn’t have to be unjust.
The audio isn’t working properly, when I wear headphones I can only hear audio in the left ear. But I hear in both ears when commercials play. Any one else having that issue?
On this Monday, I started my day by drinking some water, conducting some personal hygiene, prayed and then i was like , let me listening to the Nice and Neat Podcast. This episode was so so so good. I mean I have to watch it again. Amazing gems was dropped. Most importantly I learned a lot from this episode. Keep doing what you all are doing.
I highly disagree with them saying women won’t become wives if they don’t do wife things. It’s all about the qualities of being a wife, which can be shown and not done. It’s nothing for a woman to do wife things but still lack those qualities that are important in being a wife.
I completely agree. When women say I’m not doing wife duties as a gf, it means no cooking/ cleaning up after you. She’s not changing who she is as a person, but she’s not giving those things to you. The same can be said for men.
This convo correlates to a discussion I was having with a woman. I asked if she believes women should wait until a man loves them before they start liking him. She replied, “yes”.
Omar dropping gems ! 👏🏾 We do often forget the Law of the Universe. "In order to receive, you must give." When you forget that one simple rule you do put yourself in a position where you come from a place of pettiness and frustration. You drop your emotional intelligence and start to operate from a place of hurt and defensiveness because you're in the thick of it and you lose foresight. That paired with thee analogy regarding champions being made during the off season,. Yeah, That hit home! Plus .. "Stop having sex!" Statement!!! You got down to the root of it!!! Wow.. Omar was on fire this episode! He must have just came from the gym! Mind open and reflective. Great conversation.i
Yo O served us Gems man I love this and y’all really do need a talk show. I do hope you all understand that there are really men out here that would only be comfortable with a good situation your giving everything and they still just comfortable. Or say I can’t give you a full compliment or you’ll be feeling ya self… some men are seriously not worth being good to. Duke you are right though u have to be you no matter how the other person acts it’s a catch 22 I think.
Loved this conversation between all three of you. I related a lot about having to unlearn a lot of negative self talk through relationships. As a military child, I kept moving around so much that stability was new to me. I never understood what it meant to have roots in one location. I have been blessed to see the world from so many view points that I can now recreate my own version of stability. But it definitely took time and patience with myself mentally and physically, just to trust myself over and over again with the lessons that life has taught me.
I agree that cooking is a life skill not just a wife skill. I think the biggest issue with cooking, as I have seen for myself and from many conversations with other women, is time and energy. Most people are working full days and cooking does require shopping and cleaning constantly before, during, and after. And again after you eat and that’s just the kitchen. It’s a lot of effort after a long day and then you smell like food so you won’t feel going to movies after or dressing up to be cute or go get your nails done etc. It’s clean, go to bed so you can work in the morning. Cooking and cleaning is exhausting and keeps you in the house. I think that women who sense a low investment from men would rather dine out and enjoy evening than to be stuck in the house for a person who doesn’t say you’re my gf🤷🏽♂️ Opening a car door takes 10 seconds 🤷🏽♂️
C'mon, Omar!!!! Preach, preach, preach!!! I 100% agreed with your point of view when you started talking at the 27:00 min mark. Such a good episode. Nice & Neat is hands down one of the best men's podcast out here. The conversation is healthy and mature. In my opinion, in order to experience and build a great relationship, partners should strive to be the best they can be for each other. If you want to be married one day, "wifely skills" should be practiced before marriage. You will not automatically be an amazing wife as soon as you get married. For you to get to that point, is because your partner saw great qualities in you to make him want to marry you. How does it make sense to say "I'm not doing wifey duties" but you ultimately want to become a wife one day? How can your partner truly experience you if you're picking and choosing what to provide? The better you treat a man, the better he will treat you in return. I see it as a simple life rule that goes for everything!
First video I’ve seen from this channel &’ just subscribed! I agreed with everything that was said and I especially loved the fact that it was said women feel they are taken advantage of or used once sex is involved when it comes to relationships. I feel like we can cook, clean, etc. without feeling like we were used when we walk away but the second we feel a man has “used” us for sex then walks away we get very defensive that we start telling others men can’t get the cow…. This was a great podcast and I’ve learned a few things from it, thanks!
This was an amazing episode however some people don't even realize they are struggling with self worth or trauma until they reflect and look back at patterns or around people with healthy upbringings. The more I'm around my friends and see their family dynamics I realize the things I lacked as a child.
But this isn’t even always a trauma response. Some people with this mindset DO know their self-worth and they’ve realized that they should be pulling back because they’re not being appreciated. This is definitely a relative mindset. It’s not a blanket statement from one perspective.
@@jazzyj904 you have a point, I can agree! But I was referencing the ending when they were talking about self worth and how the way their parents poured into them helped with that. He mentioned people have to stop making excuses and pour into themselves if they didn’t get affirmed as kids.
@@jazzyj904no… they need to continue the inner work to figure out why they keep choosing that type of man. Discernment prevents the need for that wall to go up!
Good episode…I know you guys aren’t Bible thumpers! But the word of God says don’t awaken love before it’s time also the Bible speaks of don’t give your pearls to Swan I say this to say there’s boundaries in everything we do! We spend soooo much time giving to the wrong people then find ourselves hurt and guarded in an unhealthy way! It’s ok to guard your goods in a healthy way!
This episode was fire guys🔥 .. . I’m glad you guys are discussing s*x is not everything to a connection.. A lot of people do it, just to feel like its what “expected” in liking someone.. . Ladies, snatch the cat back 😂.. You will see if you actually have a true connection.. . I also think that cooking, cleaning etc, are not necessarily “wife” duties but just about the quality of thee relationship.. I see wife duties as carrying children (that’s old school nowadays), combining bank accounts,merging assets, donating organs etc. . Great episode 😊
KEEPS THE MICS! Great convo! Stepped into this relationship and took sex off the table and the connection has been greater! Don’t feel like given up anything significant and it’s something to look forward to after marriage. It’s NOT easy and it’s a challenge to stay abstinent but it feels different in a good way.
1 This was one of y’all’s best episodes!! So many many gems dropped, I had to pull out a pen and paper. 2 This was Omar’s episode, he was in his big bag. 3 Fav takeaways: It’s impossible for you to be in a place of abundance from a physical, emotional, and spiritual stand point without giving anything; in order for something to come in you have to make space for it. You’re stupid of you go to war and don’t use your best weapons! Did you take a loss or did you learn a lesson? Your wants have to be bigger than your circumstances.
Would have been nice to have the ladies on for this. It’s easy to speak on the opposite sex futures or expected responsibilities. Appreciate hearing a man’s perspective as well.
The convo about “having a switch” 🚩- I DEFINITELY switched into Suzie Homemaker over night when my dude showed me he was worthy of that. Pulled out skills/behaviors he never knew existed within me. Now maybe the emotional aspect is more gradual.. but nah. It exists for some of us 😌
This is my second time listening to this TODAY!!!! You guys gave so much wisdom in this episode I had to watch it again and send it to my Friends. Love you guys.
I personally am a little disappointed by this episode. This is a very risky conversation to have without a women in this conversation. Doesn’t tackle any of the real life issues and challenges women really have to even create a statement like this.
I definitely think a woman’s insight was needed to hold space for why this mentality is valid. These men are the exception to a lot of other men (and women) who do not uphold marriage in the same light. So many men will benefit from a woman’s wifely qualities and be quick to tell her a piece of “paper” won’t change anything when she ask about the commitment of marriage. And most importantly a woman’s biological clock is at stake in all this.
Great podcast, I would like to see the men be more candid tho.Duke asked a great question at 35:30 and they all lied!No way duke and Omar are going 5 & 6 years w/o sex all while living with a beautiful woman like cmon fellas , let’s not cap or pander !
@@tessa4181 lol you can fall for the wordplay and semantics I know better , and I’m realistic it’s a fancy way of saying no to make it sound more appealing to women!!!
@@Essy_B we don’t know that , it such a rare concept to actually see, but I know most men aren’t going 6 plus years with a beautiful women and no sex lol
@@deionjohnson8683 you’re right they’re not going that long because men and women who practice celibacy aren’t even waiting 6 years until marriage. They’re dating intentionally and they’re most likely locking it in within a year not 6 years. I know this cause I’ve known real intentional Christian women and men who practiced celibacy until marriage and the men married much sooner cause they both found their life partners so they knew there’s no use in wasting time. WYKYK.
disagree duke I know lots of guys who are getting the mil and still haven't bought the cow . Women who want to be wives don't want to stay girlfriends forever. But many men are quite happy to do that. I think the issue is women need to sent a deadline on how long they are prepared to be a girlfriend before they bounce if there objective is to become a wife
I think the overhead mics would be better cuz it’ll look more like y’all are having a conversation with each other. Idk if that made sense lol but like it’d be like y’all just met up and started talking and we just watching/listening in
I love the podcast and the episode. My biggest thing is when I hear “I’m not going to do wifey things until I’m a wife” is what is wifey things and where/who are you getting the concepts from. Someone can be a wife with a tough ass career (doctor, high power lawyer, educator, etc). Or someone could be wife that’s an entrepreneur or stay at home. Either way you don’t know what duties that “wife” does behind closed doors to support/hold up their family. What are the wifey duties you’re holding back? I love to cook and love cleaning, kind of therapeutic to me… if a woman I was involved with thought “wifey duties” included household chores they’d be highly disappointed lol
To me, wife duties is going to be things like her being my extra set of eyes because I may not see everything that’s going around me, being there for me win I’m going through something, showing up and being available emotionally not just for myself, but if we have children, Being someone that can give a different perspective on a situation/problem.
Duke is such an alpha. I appreciate him steering the conversation away from the red pill concept of just critiquing women looking to be in relationships.
Sounds like you were feeling the heat of accountability and needed someone to change the subject 😂
@@DFOlover1it was moreso a lack of understanding about what women mean when that statement is made. I definitely wish they would’ve gotten more insight for that first 15 mins, but overall the episode was great.
@@Yeahokaiight Yes definitely still a good episode
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The way I laughed when Duke said "You just a cow he don't like"😂😳🤣🤣🤣🤣
It depends how you view dating or courtship. It's honorable to want to save somethings for one person. That doesn't change your code or how you showing up as your best self but is a reflection of what you do with things sacred to you. It's a balance. Maybe you cook for your man sometimes but not everyday. New levels. New responsibilities. New requirements.
Nicely said!
I think the intention of the statement discussed is "I'm not doing wifely things until i receive the same energy in return from a potential husband". Being a wife is not an award or trophy but an entry to a life partnership. If you spend your time praying, comforting, assisting, advising, worrying over a person...you want to make sure you are receiving the same thing. Even cooking and cleaning (or other chores) takes a level of consideration that you would want in return. She's not doing it simply it needs to be done but because she wants to be of service and assistance to her partner. A woman waiting until shes a wife for some (or all) of these things means she wants to wait for that consideration.
Being a gentleman may be a false equivalent to this.
I love the different perspectives for this episode. I agree that taking sex off the table or slowing down (whichever suits you) is a wise decision. It helps you to see, hear, and understand clearly. Great episode! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
THIS WAS a GREAT point!
I been saying this to my friends, cut out the physical aspect and you'll be able to see clearly if the person truly embodies the partner you want in your life.
The wife is the helpmate so her duties are the things that help her husband grow into his divine purpose
We name all of the outstanding benefits of waiting till marriage for sex for both sexes but then still say, “I’m not for it or against it”. 🤔There’s something behind that statement we are not talking about. Why not support waiting for marriage for sex? Is it because we don’t want to seem as hypocrites because then we wouldn’t be practicing what we are preaching?
I enjoyed this one! Especially as a woman who have heard several of my friends say this. I don’t think they mean it literally, I think what woman mean to say when they say this is I won’t do wifely things until I know for sure this person wants me. Some woman tend to come out the gate doing these things & what some men will do is benefit and enjoy what your giving w/ out giving anything in return. So it’s def a defense mechanism, I think a woman that desires to be a wife will always no matter do things to show this.
I like how Omar is very spiritually aware. You can tell he does a lot of shadow work but is also aware on how it can be hard for others to overcome their shadows too 👌🏽
Anything you have to announce you aren't fully committed to yet anyway. But ladies you shouldn't let men test you out. When we were dating my husband knew I could cook because I made him dinner, but i didnt consistently cook for him until I was his wife.
I do believe there are wife duties and i also agree you have to show a man that you are qualified. But i also feel like you can do certain things to show that you have the skill set to be a wife but don’t have to do the duties to the fullest. For example cooking you can cook for a man so he knows you know how to cook but cooking for him every night i think is a wife duty. Moving in is also a wide duty. I think spending a lot of nights at each other house can show that you guys can co exist. I think there a levels to it for sure. As woman i don’t think it’s safe to go all in if you don’t have the ring or the man hasn’t even leaned towards marriage.
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These are my exact sentiments & I am a wife.
Have been a girlfriend ,fiancé and then wife . The duties are different and can be subjective but yes the level of duty is definitely advanced as you grow in your relationship .
This episode blessed me in so many ways. Y’all were preaching today. I love it and it absolutely changed my perspective in a few areas.
As a woman that loves and revere's God, my boundaries are no sex (and therefore pregnancy), cohabitation (so no cleaning each other's places), or combining of finances before marriage. My man is a man after God's heart that beliefs and practices the same things. Neither of us are virgins. Before we even met, we decided to give up those temporary physical pleasures and inevitable emotional hurt to do it God's way.
Other than that, we're all in. Prayer every morning and night, bible study and date night once a week, checking on each other and building each other up daily, checking on each other's mental health, encouraging self care and time with friends, asking about each other's families, catering to each other's love languages, practicing good communication and working through our differences and disagreements, making future plans keeping each other in mind, discussing finances. We value acts of service so cooking for each other is out of love for each other and the food lol😄. We don't live together, so no folding his drawers just yet. When I'm his wife, I'll happily fold them because I'm not trying to unclog no shower drains honey😄. My man is handy and saves hundreds and thousands doing alot of work himself. God is good🙌
Yall really good at having those convos fellas 👏🏾 really capturing the viewers attention
Duke’s delivery was amazing!! He is so connected to spiritual growth. All of you were amazing but he had some points that I could relate to ❤
Thank you guys!! This opened my eyes because I was definitely that woman who said that. But y’all helped me realized that I was speaking and seeing through my past hurt.
Omar was on a roll in this one lol & keep the mics!! Love this podcast!!
Agree, agree!
This was such a great conversation. Thank you for the gems. Many blessings to you all.
Wow you guys this was an eye opener. You expanded the cliche way of thinking when it comes to this topic. Also, allowing me to be honest with myself as a woman. Thank you❤
Balance… you have to give to receive. One should not give overly beyond what they receive.
This was such a great episode and much needed conversation! A lot of times us as women know how to go and get all of the degrees and accolades but when it comes to a man we don’t know how to vet a man. But I actually like the mics! Love y’all! Be safe and be blessed
Yes, i appreciate Omar's perspective. I work with foster youth and I am fully aware of the lack of love people receive in their childhood. There are also levels to ignorance...Many of these people don't know that they don't know....so they don't even have the awareness to seek healing or self-development.
Wow! This conversation was epic! So much information, knowledge and authenticity.
I really appreciate the early arguments and perspectives. I think it more so speaks to the women who have not been giving the best to their partner Vs. someone who has and have not received a ring in return. I think wifey duties vary from person to person. What women are trying to say is that they are tired of being taken advantage of and nobody wants to be strung along. We should be taking our time in the beginning , gradually build, and using discernment . That’s why I feel you should never do something for anyone looking for something in return . It should always be from the kindness of your heart and with the understanding that a person does not owe you anything, even if you are doing “wifey activities.” The only things I feel can be withheld during the dating stage are serious financial commitments that can harm you, and drastic decisions that can be lifelong. Everything else should just be you being the best version of you to yourself and your person.
This just became my new favorite episode. All of y’all were on point. It was such a calming, therapeutic conversation. Excited for the recap of tomorrow’s event 🥃🥃🥃
I think the mic’s are fine. Main thing is keep delivering the quality content; however you choose. Appreciate y’all doing God’s work like this.
This episode is beautiful and I love the conversation around steps, and different levels we have to get through. Jalon spoke about sports, and how athletes prepare all seasons. And a lot of gems were dropped . However Emotions matter, therapy also matters. But I think when women say I am not going to do wifey things for me, again who aren’t their husbands, is a very valid point to make. Two different behaviors come in especially when one doesn’t or didn’t grow up with a father. So you have to matter enough and hold values that would make her look and go hmm “okay you hold values and principles “. Again gender roles matter, but it doesn’t have to be unjust.
"I never lose. I either win or I learn." - Nelson Mandela
The audio isn’t working properly, when I wear headphones I can only hear audio in the left ear. But I hear in both ears when commercials play.
Any one else having that issue?
I’m having the same issue. So weird
Omg I thought my right air pod died😭
On this Monday, I started my day by drinking some water, conducting some personal hygiene, prayed and then i was like , let me listening to the Nice and Neat Podcast.
This episode was so so so good. I mean I have to watch it again. Amazing gems was dropped. Most importantly I learned a lot from this episode. Keep doing what you all are doing.
I highly disagree with them saying women won’t become wives if they don’t do wife things. It’s all about the qualities of being a wife, which can be shown and not done. It’s nothing for a woman to do wife things but still lack those qualities that are important in being a wife.
I completely agree. When women say I’m not doing wife duties as a gf, it means no cooking/ cleaning up after you. She’s not changing who she is as a person, but she’s not giving those things to you. The same can be said for men.
Always appreciate these profound conversations. ❤
I love hearing the male point of view, this conversation was so needed
This convo correlates to a discussion I was having with a woman. I asked if she believes women should wait until a man loves them before they start liking him. She replied, “yes”.
Omar dropping gems ! 👏🏾
We do often forget the Law of the Universe. "In order to receive, you must give."
When you forget that one simple rule you do put yourself in a position where you come from a place of pettiness and frustration.
You drop your emotional intelligence and start to operate from a place of hurt and defensiveness because you're in the thick of it and you lose foresight.
That paired with thee analogy regarding champions being made during the off season,. Yeah, That hit home!
Plus .. "Stop having sex!" Statement!!!
You got down to the root of it!!! Wow.. Omar was on fire this episode! He must have just came from the gym! Mind open and reflective.
Great conversation.i
Yo O served us Gems man I love this and y’all really do need a talk show. I do hope you all understand that there are really men out here that would only be comfortable with a good situation your giving everything and they still just comfortable. Or say I can’t give you a full compliment or you’ll be feeling ya self… some men are seriously not worth being good to. Duke you are right though u have to be you no matter how the other person acts it’s a catch 22 I think.
Loved this conversation between all three of you. I related a lot about having to unlearn a lot of negative self talk through relationships. As a military child, I kept moving around so much that stability was new to me. I never understood what it meant to have roots in one location. I have been blessed to see the world from so many view points that I can now recreate my own version of stability. But it definitely took time and patience with myself mentally and physically, just to trust myself over and over again with the lessons that life has taught me.
35:00 Omar you get it completely, I see the growth! Ladies please listen to what he’s saying at this time stamp!!!
I agree that cooking is a life skill not just a wife skill. I think the biggest issue with cooking, as I have seen for myself and from many conversations with other women, is time and energy.
Most people are working full days and cooking does require shopping and cleaning constantly before, during, and after. And again after you eat and that’s just the kitchen. It’s a lot of effort after a long day and then you smell like food so you won’t feel going to movies after or dressing up to be cute or go get your nails done etc. It’s clean, go to bed so you can work in the morning. Cooking and cleaning is exhausting and keeps you in the house.
I think that women who sense a low investment from men would rather dine out and enjoy evening than to be stuck in the house for a person who doesn’t say you’re my gf🤷🏽♂️
Opening a car door takes 10 seconds 🤷🏽♂️
C'mon, Omar!!!! Preach, preach, preach!!! I 100% agreed with your point of view when you started talking at the 27:00 min mark. Such a good episode. Nice & Neat is hands down one of the best men's podcast out here. The conversation is healthy and mature. In my opinion, in order to experience and build a great relationship, partners should strive to be the best they can be for each other. If you want to be married one day, "wifely skills" should be practiced before marriage. You will not automatically be an amazing wife as soon as you get married. For you to get to that point, is because your partner saw great qualities in you to make him want to marry you. How does it make sense to say "I'm not doing wifey duties" but you ultimately want to become a wife one day? How can your partner truly experience you if you're picking and choosing what to provide? The better you treat a man, the better he will treat you in return. I see it as a simple life rule that goes for everything!
Omar put this episode on his back! Shoutout to the boy foreal!
First video I’ve seen from this channel &’ just subscribed! I agreed with everything that was said and I especially loved the fact that it was said women feel they are taken advantage of or used once sex is involved when it comes to relationships. I feel like we can cook, clean, etc. without feeling like we were used when we walk away but the second we feel a man has “used” us for sex then walks away we get very defensive that we start telling others men can’t get the cow…. This was a great podcast and I’ve learned a few things from it, thanks!
This was an amazing episode however some people don't even realize they are struggling with self worth or trauma until they reflect and look back at patterns or around people with healthy upbringings. The more I'm around my friends and see their family dynamics I realize the things I lacked as a child.
But this isn’t even always a trauma response. Some people with this mindset DO know their self-worth and they’ve realized that they should be pulling back because they’re not being appreciated. This is definitely a relative mindset. It’s not a blanket statement from one perspective.
@@jazzyj904 you have a point, I can agree! But I was referencing the ending when they were talking about self worth and how the way their parents poured into them helped with that. He mentioned people have to stop making excuses and pour into themselves if they didn’t get affirmed as kids.
@@jazzyj904no… they need to continue the inner work to figure out why they keep choosing that type of man. Discernment prevents the need for that wall to go up!
“Maybe you’re just a cow that he don’t like” is HILARIOUS 🤣
Lol 😂 I laughed hard!!
Woooow what a mind blowing episode.. the perspective and perceptions so many gems and nuggets
Best episode yet!!!! All the guys were saying FACTS!!! Love this podcast❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Omar Dropped GEMS On This Episode
This all is so good! Great conversation!
Wife behavior and wife benefits are different tho.
Since you asked about the mics, the audio on this one was funky. Just letting you know 😊
Btw, What happened to “Dem the rules” and “halftime”?
Yessss!! Miss those. Makes it so unique
Good episode…I know you guys aren’t Bible thumpers!
But the word of God says don’t awaken love before it’s time also the Bible speaks of don’t give your pearls to Swan I say this to say there’s boundaries in everything we do!
We spend soooo much time giving to the wrong people then find ourselves hurt and guarded in an unhealthy way! It’s ok to guard your goods in a healthy way!
Omar you was talking that sh*t this episode, good job. Love the perspective!❤
Can you guys make an episode on 50/50 relationships? (Regarding to finances not effort)
This episode was fire guys🔥 ..
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I’m glad you guys are discussing s*x is not everything to a connection.. A lot of people do it, just to feel like its what “expected” in liking someone..
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Ladies, snatch the cat back 😂.. You will see if you actually have a true connection..
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I also think that cooking, cleaning etc, are not necessarily “wife” duties but just about the quality of thee relationship.. I see wife duties as carrying children (that’s old school nowadays), combining bank accounts,merging assets, donating organs etc.
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Great episode 😊
This left ear audio🎧✨
This ep. had some great moments overall. But Omar really shined with some thoughtful gems for sure 💯💯
26:37 🔥🔥🔥🥃🥃🥃 y’all always come all the way through with the game❤️
The most reasonable group of black American men I have seen on media 😁😁.
“You just a cow that he don’t like. 👏🏼😂
The realist… but Omar’s face right after tho 😂😂😂😂
The big brother game is unmatched. Brb, going to cook for my man!
KEEPS THE MICS! Great convo! Stepped into this relationship and took sex off the table and the connection has been greater! Don’t feel like given up anything significant and it’s something to look forward to after marriage. It’s NOT easy and it’s a challenge to stay abstinent but it feels different in a good way.
1 This was one of y’all’s best episodes!! So many many gems dropped, I had to pull out a pen and paper. 2 This was Omar’s episode, he was in his big bag. 3 Fav takeaways: It’s impossible for you to be in a place of abundance from a physical, emotional, and spiritual stand point without giving anything; in order for something to come in you have to make space for it. You’re stupid of you go to war and don’t use your best weapons! Did you take a loss or did you learn a lesson? Your wants have to be bigger than your circumstances.
And keep the mics!
Woooooooo!!! Y’all really went thereeeeee on this one!! #TheNice&NeatWay 🥃🥃🥃
Mics just be sure they go into both sides. I couldn't hear in my right side. 😊 Good show guys.
You guys should have a billion subs...#nice&neat
I had to run the intro back and then go listen to the full song lol I’m obsessed 😂
They really raising the standard for men. If he ain’t on this level, mindset, energy, maturity, openness… I dont want it.
Totally enjoyed this episode. 👏🏾👏🏾
Great episode 🔥🔥
Would have been nice to have the ladies on for this. It’s easy to speak on the opposite sex futures or expected responsibilities. Appreciate hearing a man’s perspective as well.
I like the mics, they go well with the overall concept of the podcast
This is one of my fav episodes…
The convo about “having a switch” 🚩- I DEFINITELY switched into Suzie Homemaker over night when my dude showed me he was worthy of that. Pulled out skills/behaviors he never knew existed within me.
Now maybe the emotional aspect is more gradual.. but nah. It exists for some of us 😌
All hits no misses!❤
I say keep the mics
This is my second time listening to this TODAY!!!! You guys gave so much wisdom in this episode I had to watch it again and send it to my Friends. Love you guys.
If there’s a part two to this please add a woman, preferably one whose married. Y’all need that
Perspective.
I’m cool with the mics but however y’all feel comfortable delivering the content is alright with me. Love you guys! That you for your insights 💕
This episode is so nice and neat ❤love it
realest episode , forsure on point(round of applause).
I personally am a little disappointed by this episode. This is a very risky conversation to have without a women in this conversation. Doesn’t tackle any of the real life issues and challenges women really have to even create a statement like this.
There were a lot of double standards in this episode that wasn’t addressed
I agree this episode missed the mark and they were being purposefully obtuse.
I definitely think a woman’s insight was needed to hold space for why this mentality is valid. These men are the exception to a lot of other men (and women) who do not uphold marriage in the same light. So many men will benefit from a woman’s wifely qualities and be quick to tell her a piece of “paper” won’t change anything when she ask about the commitment of marriage. And most importantly a woman’s biological clock is at stake in all this.
If you’re a woman and had that same mindset, just check your own judgement, your discernment to whom you’re providing the wifey things to.
Great podcast, I would like to see the men be more candid tho.Duke asked a great question at 35:30 and they all lied!No way duke and Omar are going 5 & 6 years w/o sex all while living with a beautiful woman like cmon fellas , let’s not cap or pander !
They said they can, they didn’t say they would lol
@@tessa4181 lol you can fall for the wordplay and semantics I know better , and I’m realistic it’s a fancy way of saying no to make it sound more appealing to women!!!
Even if they would they wouldn’t be living with their women. Most ppl who practice celibacy until marriage don’t for reasons of not being tempted.
@@Essy_B we don’t know that , it such a rare concept to actually see, but I know most men aren’t going 6 plus years with a beautiful women and no sex lol
@@deionjohnson8683 you’re right they’re not going that long because men and women who practice celibacy aren’t even waiting 6 years until marriage. They’re dating intentionally and they’re most likely locking it in within a year not 6 years. I know this cause I’ve known real intentional Christian women and men who practiced celibacy until marriage and the men married much sooner cause they both found their life partners so they knew there’s no use in wasting time. WYKYK.
I see nice and neat being the male talk show that the brothers out here need. 1st of its kind ( can I get 10% for this idea😂)
Don't get rid of the mics. They create a more intimate atmosphere that is crucial for these types of conversations
Just simply a Powerful episode.
disagree duke I know lots of guys who are getting the mil and still haven't bought the cow . Women who want to be wives don't want to stay girlfriends forever. But many men are quite happy to do that. I think the issue is women need to sent a deadline on how long they are prepared to be a girlfriend before they bounce if there objective is to become a wife
12:53 Yet. #destiny #fate
I love Jalon!!! 😂😂😂 🙌🏾🙌🏾🗣🙌🏾
I think the overhead mics would be better cuz it’ll look more like y’all are having a conversation with each other. Idk if that made sense lol but like it’d be like y’all just met up and started talking and we just watching/listening in
This was really a great episode!!
Omar was cooking😂 good episode
I love this podcast!! When do you think as a man you are doing husband duties or feel as tho you may be “too good” for a person you’ve been dating?
What happen to dem the rules lol 56:52
THIS IS SO GOOD!!!!
I really love this episode ❤️
😂 definitely came to pod 😂
O said lock it up!! 🔒🔒🔒
I love the podcast and the episode. My biggest thing is when I hear “I’m not going to do wifey things until I’m a wife” is what is wifey things and where/who are you getting the concepts from. Someone can be a wife with a tough ass career (doctor, high power lawyer, educator, etc). Or someone could be wife that’s an entrepreneur or stay at home. Either way you don’t know what duties that “wife” does behind closed doors to support/hold up their family. What are the wifey duties you’re holding back? I love to cook and love cleaning, kind of therapeutic to me… if a woman I was involved with thought “wifey duties” included household chores they’d be highly disappointed lol
To me, wife duties is going to be things like her being my extra set of eyes because I may not see everything that’s going around me, being there for me win I’m going through something, showing up and being available emotionally not just for myself, but if we have children, Being someone that can give a different perspective on a situation/problem.
I really really love this💯💯