The engine on the bracket is actually at the same height- or it should be- below the waterline as if it was transom mounted. The reason a bracket-mounted outboard often has a higher top end is there's more moment/ lever arm between the props and hull to get the bow out of the water, with the transom acting as the pivot point, and props pushing up, and the hull rotating on this horizontal axis to raise the bow. Less immersed hull means less frictional resistance and therefore more speed. The is probably no such thing as "cleaner water flow" to the prop, certainly not in any meaningful way when there prop and ventilation plate are at the right depth below the dynamic (on plane) waterline. "Performance" includes more than just top speed. Transom mounted outboards can let you get up on plane at a much lower speed (11-12 kts vs 16-20 kts), and without the need for tabs (which also act like brakes) to get the bow down so you can see ahead of the boat somewhat, and this is great when slogging your way home as the seas are building. Transom mounted engines are also easier to handle precisely and predictably around a marina, with the bracket outboards sending their wash up against the transom (trim the engines all the up to mitigate this) and being practically impossibly to back predictably, especially downwind. The pivot point when backing can actually shift to a point aft of the boat which generally is not good. Brackets also make it harder to work a fishing or dock line around the stern. Regulator builds a great boat, however, and their market obviously likes the top speed advantage.
The theory that the bracket should be raised 3-4" up from the hull is wrong wrong wrong . I have been designing hulls for many years and the latest was the Splendor full planing Catamaran . Engine bracket flush with the bottom and one of the best handling boats on the market. I am presently building a bracket for a 1957 Lone Star and the bracket will be flush like it needs to be.
Hallo Mr. Miller Are you designers for the bracket? I have the boat with the outboard, but the whole motor doesn't get out from the water. So I have to move the motor backwards. One of the solution is transom bracket. But I don't know who can design it. Can you help?
@@iztokmil , I am not sure how to help you you here. I suggest that you look at the many videos here on TH-cam that show how to do this. Just type in " DIY outboard motor bracket extension and you will see.
@@iztokmil Question. Based on what you are saying, I understand the pod should be down to the bottom of the hull and match the deadrise so the flow of water is un-interrupted. But what do you do with the drain plug at the lowest point? I ask because I am about to start the process of pulling an I/O and welding up my own pod.
Appreciate the input, Jim. But as I'm sure you're aware - different style hulls have different goals in mind. ALL Regulators are designed by Lou Codega - one of the top naval architects in the world with over 35+ years of experience. And with over 5000 Regulators on the water, the design has proven itself to be incredible and works best to the overall performance(ride, speed, handling and maeuverability, fuel efficiency, etc.) that our customers love and have come to expect from a Regulator.
@@RegulatorMarineNC , I agree with you Sir however the step up can be incorporated at the furthermost rear of the pod while the front of the pod is flush with the hull. I prefer to keep more bottom surface on the water for more stability and the rise for more motor lift and I use a hydraulic jack plate to gain lift.On the current build I am doing on a 1957 Lone Star ElDorado it is very aft heavy in the water so I want more aft surface to help compensate.I have built many full planing Cats that were the same way and our pods were flush with the hull
If that bracket was that great of a thing all manufactures would be using them. The reality is very few use them. I do like the boats though came close to putting a deposit down on a new 34, but the cobia 350 was 100k cheaper for pretty much the same specs.
@@NotSure2030-kw9yh Two maybe but three engines, nah. Here in UK we usually only have 1 plus a smaller auxiliary motor. Some have two. No-one has three or more.
I am with Jim Miller. bracket are not good. you can see on your own regulator boat video how yours boats are porpoising all the time. I am sure bracket contributed to porpoising a lot
Aahhh, but we beg to differ, Mr. Peter. The bracket is vital to the performance of our Regulators. It not only enhances engine performance, but also allows us to give you more usable space on deck. That's more room for fishing, storage, and good times aboard your Regulator. We see this as a big WIN! No laziness here. Our engineers meticulously plan out every part of a Regulator to ensure our customers have an incredible offshore experience. Hope you'll get out and ride one to feel it for yourself!
Safety is one of Regulator Marine's core values and we take it very serious. We have many safety measures in place for when we're out on the factory floor. Safety glasses are mandatory on the factory floor at all times. So I guess you could say we do 'look the part' 👍
With an integrated transom ( which is a fancy name for a molded bracket), they include that in the boats advertised length, so if it’s a 28’ boat with 3’ of integrated transom. you pay for a 31’ boat. If you buy a 28’ boat with a bracket, you are still paying for a 28’ boat. Both have the same useable area, you just pay more. That, my friend, is the industry ripping you off!
@@Slipmahoney21 what do you prefer a shorter woman with the right body or a tall one with an ugly body? I rather loose a couple feet and have a sexy boat. No counting the maintenance issues when you have a bracket. Brackets are plain ugly and old fashioned.
Wouldn't this be an industry standard then? Why are companies like Grady White and Boston Whaler not doing this? Wouldn't cgi simulations and such prove this to be the better design to go with?
It is more economical to build boats without brackets. Many brands and customers choose to go the economical route. Regulator's ride and performance is tried and true, and the bracket is a contributing factor of that.
You saying like is gw and bw Are the best boats. Gradys are soft spot city and Boston w got the ugliest hulls ever designed. You obviously haven't noticed that boats like intrepid, see vee, etc have transoms that are bracket like only they are integrated in the hull. Industry standard sounds like boredom, you look at a Regulator boat you know that's for a serious fisherman that don't need to ask his wife about buying a boat because he got himself some real fishing machinery. I mean, look at that chrome belt that boat is wearing all around his waist. 😂
The engine on the bracket is actually at the same height- or it should be- below the waterline as if it was transom mounted. The reason a bracket-mounted outboard often has a higher top end is there's more moment/ lever arm between the props and hull to get the bow out of the water, with the transom acting as the pivot point, and props pushing up, and the hull rotating on this horizontal axis to raise the bow. Less immersed hull means less frictional resistance and therefore more speed. The is probably no such thing as "cleaner water flow" to the prop, certainly not in any meaningful way when there prop and ventilation plate are at the right depth below the dynamic (on plane) waterline. "Performance" includes more than just top speed. Transom mounted outboards can let you get up on plane at a much lower speed (11-12 kts vs 16-20 kts), and without the need for tabs (which also act like brakes) to get the bow down so you can see ahead of the boat somewhat, and this is great when slogging your way home as the seas are building. Transom mounted engines are also easier to handle precisely and predictably around a marina, with the bracket outboards sending their wash up against the transom (trim the engines all the up to mitigate this) and being practically impossibly to back predictably, especially downwind. The pivot point when backing can actually shift to a point aft of the boat which generally is not good. Brackets also make it harder to work a fishing or dock line around the stern. Regulator builds a great boat, however, and their market obviously likes the top speed advantage.
This is a very clear mechanical reference, presented in a very pleasant way. Thank you so very much. I have subscribed. Cheers
You have good points for installing a bracket on a boat. I will do the same on my Sundowner 195, this month. Thanks for the tips.
that lever you are talking about is in deed the transom and is lifting the bow every time
The best reason for outboard pod is it effectivly increases lengh to beam ratio
Smart ! Thanks for the video
Good show, I'll build a bracket for a tenth for the price.
The theory that the bracket should be raised 3-4" up from the hull is wrong wrong wrong . I have been designing hulls for many years and the latest was the Splendor full planing Catamaran . Engine bracket flush with the bottom and one of the best handling boats on the market. I am presently building a bracket for a 1957 Lone Star and the bracket will be flush like it needs to be.
Hallo Mr. Miller
Are you designers for the bracket? I have the boat with the outboard, but the whole motor doesn't get out from the water. So I have to move the motor backwards. One of the solution is transom bracket. But I don't know who can design it. Can you help?
@@iztokmil , I am not sure how to help you you here. I suggest that you look at the many videos here on TH-cam that show how to do this. Just type in " DIY outboard motor bracket extension and you will see.
@@iztokmil Question. Based on what you are saying, I understand the pod should be down to the bottom of the hull and match the deadrise so the flow of water is un-interrupted. But what do you do with the drain plug at the lowest point? I ask because I am about to start the process of pulling an I/O and welding up my own pod.
Appreciate the input, Jim. But as I'm sure you're aware - different style hulls have different goals in mind. ALL Regulators are designed by Lou Codega - one of the top naval architects in the world with over 35+ years of experience. And with over 5000 Regulators on the water, the design has proven itself to be incredible and works best to the overall performance(ride, speed, handling and maeuverability, fuel efficiency, etc.) that our customers love and have come to expect from a Regulator.
@@RegulatorMarineNC , I agree with you Sir however the step up can be incorporated at the furthermost rear of the pod while the front of the pod is flush with the hull. I prefer to keep more bottom surface on the water for more stability and the rise for more motor lift and I use a hydraulic jack plate to gain lift.On the current build I am doing on a 1957 Lone Star ElDorado it is very aft heavy in the water so I want more aft surface to help compensate.I have built many full planing Cats that were the same way and our pods were flush with the hull
hey men very good tip about this part of a boat, thanks very much, awesome boats by the way
If that bracket was that great of a thing all manufactures would be using them. The reality is very few use them. I do like the boats though came close to putting a deposit down on a new 34, but the cobia 350 was 100k cheaper for pretty much the same specs.
boat makers dont add cost, even when its the best thing. thanks for playing
Bizzare obsession with multiple engines in the US. Motor manufacturers taking you for a ride.
when your life depends on getting home, what better insurance?
@@NotSure2030-kw9yh Two maybe but three engines, nah. Here in UK we usually only have 1 plus a smaller auxiliary motor. Some have two. No-one has three or more.
I am with Jim Miller. bracket are not good. you can see on your own regulator boat video how yours boats are porpoising all the time. I am sure bracket contributed to porpoising a lot
This is gobbledygook.
It’s a simple answer. Because your hull design is outdated and you’re too lazy to invest in a newer hull design
Aahhh, but we beg to differ, Mr. Peter. The bracket is vital to the performance of our Regulators. It not only enhances engine performance, but also allows us to give you more usable space on deck. That's more room for fishing, storage, and good times aboard your Regulator. We see this as a big WIN! No laziness here. Our engineers meticulously plan out every part of a Regulator to ensure our customers have an incredible offshore experience. Hope you'll get out and ride one to feel it for yourself!
Regulator Marine
Plus, I also see the advantage of getting in and out of the water with that platform.
Why do you have safety glasses on? Too look the part? Scared of the haters on youtube.... wear your ppe?
Safety is one of Regulator Marine's core values and we take it very serious. We have many safety measures in place for when we're out on the factory floor. Safety glasses are mandatory on the factory floor at all times. So I guess you could say we do 'look the part' 👍
Because you are too cheap to invest in a new mold. Those bracketed boats look very old. Also you should consider taking some weight out.
With an integrated transom ( which is a fancy name for a molded bracket), they include that in the boats advertised length, so if it’s a 28’ boat with 3’ of integrated transom. you pay for a 31’ boat. If you buy a 28’ boat with a bracket, you are still paying for a 28’ boat. Both have the same useable area, you just pay more. That, my friend, is the industry ripping you off!
@@Slipmahoney21 what do you prefer a shorter woman with the right body or a tall one with an ugly body? I rather loose a couple feet and have a sexy boat. No counting the maintenance issues when you have a bracket. Brackets are plain ugly and old fashioned.
Aquila and Azimut doing the same. Subbed.
Wouldn't this be an industry standard then? Why are companies like Grady White and Boston Whaler not doing this? Wouldn't cgi simulations and such prove this to be the better design to go with?
It is more economical to build boats without brackets. Many brands and customers choose to go the economical route. Regulator's ride and performance is tried and true, and the bracket is a contributing factor of that.
You saying like is gw and bw Are the best boats. Gradys are soft spot city and Boston w got the ugliest hulls ever designed. You obviously haven't noticed that boats like intrepid, see vee, etc have transoms that are bracket like only they are integrated in the hull. Industry standard sounds like boredom, you look at a Regulator boat you know that's for a serious fisherman that don't need to ask his wife about buying a boat because he got himself some real fishing machinery. I mean, look at that chrome belt that boat is wearing all around his waist. 😂