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I just realized the Tiermaker logo is literally the Dematerializer icon... 😯
its definitely CNS’ work, mastermind behind everything
fricking genius
Demat NEED some sort of counter play other than another Demat
Maybe glitch grenade/barrel cancel out the demated wall? And disable the walls around that area
I actually love that idea. Glitch grenade realistically should cancel the demat
Yes there definitely needs to be something to counter it, nerfing it is where I don’t want them to go though
Heard of goo? You throw a nade and a massive goo wall appears.
@@ADDISON396 good luck throwing a goo grenade after getting beamed from a wall 😭 then they just can demat another wall since you have 3 anyway
@@spacenumber1149 I’m not quite sure but once I threw glitch barrel to dematerialized area and it hindered me to demat that area again. I’ve never tried that again maybe it was just a misunderstood.
Dash C Tier 💀
Its 100% S teir and the best spec for light lmao. Most annoying spec in the game if anything and second place is the goo gun and the people who are cracked CCing you from across the map as they close the distance to smack you with the sledge lmao.
Its 100% not. You know why? Becouse he knows better. You are the noob and he is the pro😅
Bro you come up against anyone in the top 200 and dash isn’t it. Cloak is good because it makes you hard/impossible to see, you can get in and out of positions, you can set up a gateway play, you can sneak and stun, you can do so many things with it. The only way to go invis with dash is to take invis bomb and the other gadgets are too good to replace with invis bomb. Cloak is the way forward for effective team play as a light. Dash is good for solo WT and whatever, but coming up against good teams with dash, you’ll get cooked too quick.
@@uhToxyy Were you an old member of ANML? That pfp brings me waay back lol
Where does the bald aimbotter specialisation rank on this?
LOL BRUH
Rank #1 in my ❤️
Is scruy actually hacking or nah?
GOOD QUESTION
mesh having no cooldown again with sa12 is one of the most fun things ever, but the tiny delay after dropping shield stopping you from shooting, its only there for like 0.2 seconds, and i don't know why bc its really clunky, they already disincentivized dropping it with the -200 health penalty so there's no reason to have it
I hope they add a new specialist for the light class. I feel like the light class doesn’t do enough for the team, like give them the ability to spawn a fake clone or something that’s a 50hp clone that’s see through kinda. It’ll be a cool concept
That bit about the guardian turret got me thinking, what if we get it some mild recon capabilities by highlighting damaged enemies for a short while, like the other scan gadgets yk. To compensate it would FOR SHURE need a slight damadge or health nerf though, depending on where it will sit in the meta. Either way could be cool to see turret being more usefull in comp. (edit) Actually, by doing this you make the turret way more of a team supportive gadget, even when casual and beginner players use it. So embark, HIT ME UP WE NEED THIS
@Soarlex_ I sense disturbance in force named recon sense. We miss her so much
The audio que works like that. Its like an alarm
@@user-ne9sd4ow1o well fair, but having a way more precise scan would definatly be a big buff, since the ping of locking on to someone can be very unspecific, depending on the situation ofc. Plus, giving it recon capabilities would give medium a reason to use smokes as a gadget since that badboy is kinda untouched rn as well.
Let's not
There's the motion sensor for that.
Charge and slam gotta be at least in A it's literally insta 130 damage button and more if you hit more and slam. It can really change the outcome of a fight 💪 but really good list 👍
Maybe in lower ranks, but in higher ranks most people know to stay clear and how to avoid it. High ranks usually use it as a movement tool more than anything.
Charge definitely deserves a higher spot. It may be quite braindead but there is so much use for it. It can win you fights that are unwinnable sometimes. Stalls cashouts so well also.
You missed the point of the video. This isn't a list for what's good/great in 1v1 situations. Cause yeah, in a 1v1, it's often times a A+ tier just cause it can cancel out so much progress the enemy may have to put out.
But in terms of where it stands in team comp offerings and game changing ability, it's non existent compared to the other things.
Turret isnt good, but I still use it.I stopped being a healbitch in s2 and for demat, I dont have the eye for the best uses in some situations. So I stick with turret, either it does something or not. Its not in my hand after I place it.
Thats why its the worst specialization for ranked. There are situations where you get absolutely 0 use from it. Demat/Heals tho, always get some sort of use for each engagement
@rizzleybear i know.i explained why I still use the turret.
@@diegradebananeit’s good if you’re bad
@@JeuneF No its still Bad then.
Surprised to see grapple so low. I feel like the positioning and macro movement options of it really lend itself to a much more map-mobile and versaitle light team mate. When considering how much more important it is for lights to have good positioning when compared to other classes, it seems weird that a specialization dedicated to positioning would be so low.
Yeah the grapple is an excellent tool to bug out of a fight. It also lets you very quickly reach enemies who take a high ground and keep them from sniping your teammates
If you're doing a Gadget tier list afterwards, I'd be incredibly interested in your rating on Defib in particular. This season it went from the must-run utility, to feeling so bad I swapped it out for Goo nades.
Its still good, just move the body somewhere before rezzing. Its good for stopping the medium spam making it feel like you're fighting 3 teams when its MMM lol. Coming from a medium main too.
Everyone make sure to ask for the finals devs to implement hidden rank score to help high Elo lobbies
I think goo gun should be higher based on its potential. It can counter the demat by blocking areas that are denatured
takes way too long for goo players to do that and equip time usually is enough to get some shots in on the goo players even when they do see you demat the wall, best thing for them to do is just shoot back
Personally, dash is only a good special if you have a fast killing weapon such as the double barrel or the throwing knives, in ranked and high elo, the cloak wins by a mile just because you can back in and out of fights with your team and reposition.
Love the videos, stopped playing this season after the QP spawn changes, but looking forward to coming back if they change it back.
I'm still playing but this is 100 percent a big issue for me currently.
@@michaeljones1753 I haven't played QP in ages, what did they do to the spawns and why is it so bad?
Lol
@@mikeormoab Spawns are close, if you win the early vault fight depending of the spawn, sometimes enemy team can be faster to cashout so you don't have time to setup. Downsides is that you don't get to setup & no chill, upsides is that there is more action per minute of game played. I think it's OK, it's not that bad, usually if you win fight the best (at least in World Tour), is to kill two people then 1 guy moves with the box, while other 2 disengages generally to buy as much time.
Ohh didn't expect googun to be at B tbh. I'm happy
hi Appoh! great work with the video, could you make a post or a video explaining the different call-outs or terms that the pro players use when playing The Finals?
-good hearing from you!
With piggyno longer playing, finally we have a new top player making tierlists
Evasive dash definitely needs some sort of buff to make its skill ceiling higher.
Right now it’s a compensation tool for bad movement and bad positioning. It needs to be more than that.
A possible solution would be to have more charges but less travel distance to create a micro movement tool. That can’t fix your bad movement/ positioning but can boost your survivability and your positioning skills
Demat doesnt feel extremely skill based tbh, maybe for super cheeky niche stuff? But realistically its about as simple push button go place ypu initially couldnt with nearly 0 counterplay.
Still shocked its as strong as it is, near silent gadget in the middle of fight capable of getting some insane angle or ambush up to 3 times that cannot be glitched out. Insane
Console only Tiers and PC tiers are definitely different.
Dash is 100% up there for consoles players.
No it's not because you're missing the point of this tier list. Cloak will always provide the most value in this team based and objective based game
comp tierlist next?
nice tierlist but how about embark updates fsr2 to fsr3.1.3
They were waiting for u to comment this to update it
bro u are everywhere 😭😭😂😂
Guardian turret needs a rework
2:17 wait, does standing still is completely invisible or u mean like is people can catch me when im start stop moving from moving?
When you cloak, the more you move, the more noise the cloak makes (that disoriented wobble sound). Also when you are cloaked, you also emit a hazy outline around your character. The faster you move, the more the outline shows. So when you are completely still, the outline and noise is still there, but it is very hard to see and hear unless you are actively searching for it!
@@TheSIyFoxand depending on your graphics settings
@@TheSIyFoxi think if you're standing still then you're completely invisible but enemies can still hear you but they have to be like 1 meter away from you not further
Charge n slam isn’t S tier because pro players are scared to brawl
You know it’s a good day when appoh uploads
I think medium really needs another specialisation. Dematerialiser is super fun but the other two are just kinda boring. Medium also doesnt really have any weapon that pairs well with their specialisation except for demat and literally every weapon and gadget. Maybe a health buff armour thing that slows you down? I have no idea what it should look like sadly, and im sure the devs are also having a hard time coming up with one that's fun
Thank you for the video, very infromative. If one day I am to reach the top 500 players, it would in part be because of you
Isn't the dash the best for lights in terms of combat stats, if you have good aim should you not be able to start shooting, and when they fire back you dash and realign your aim to dodge damage? Of course the enemy can still track you after you dash but you know when and where you're dashing in advance so you should always be able to realign your aim before they do. Though it is def more kill-centric and less team synergy.
If this game was TDM centric, it'd be the best. But it's about what's best for your team and objectives. Cloak tops all
grapple hook is s tier for fun
recon senses where?
Embark: “last Christmas, we gave you our heart (recon sense). The very next day, you asked for nerfs anyway”
I wish they reworked it and readded it, so many balanced possibilities...
@silverwoomy0they said it will be reworked and bring back into game
I'd love to believe that, however it's been 4 seasons and I'm losing hope
@silverwoomy0 don’t lose faith my friend I sense that before summer, our prays will be answered.
Thank you for putting in some actual effort into your tutorials. You are by far a smurf in TH-cam surrounded by noobs.
Demat is just made for this game
What does "plug" meta mean?
Also 'kite' lmao
plugging is just putting the cash box into the cashout. Since it gives you 30% money it's very valuable to chase after those "plugs".
@@colesegulin5985 kiting is when that tryhard medium with the model is constantly coming in and out of walls with demat, getting a cheeky shot or two off, then fucking off again for another 5 seconds (good luck chasing them)
@@colesegulin5985 kite is an old mmo term for hitting an enemy and having them chase you, as if you're just holding a kite in the sky and bringing it around the park
Most part of the players are D "no hands" torrets
well made video, really enjoyed this
Good video
Merry Christmas ⛄🎄!!!!
Mesh to high, na cope
8:04 IT IS CALLED A MAGAZINE
Jooo appoh nice Vid! Can you also do a gadget tierlist?
Ill never understand your logic….. putting dash at C is wicked work
sword users are impossible to hit when they're dashing thru you
I’d say niche specialization. It’s good if you know how to maximize on it. If you suck at it, you’re just going to dash yourself off the map or, right into the enemy
@ exactly
Your logic for how to combat turret is crazy flawed….. everyone doesnt carry turrets counter and people who use current either uses it for cover or like an alarm system….
Surprised to see Cloak so high when its easy to counter with good proxy mine and glitch traps.
Yeah it's simply wrong. Not only because of that, but because people can hear and see the invis light... I mean Appoh put dash to C tier because he thought high rank players can easily understand and counter it, but same thing applies to cloak too. It's actually easier to play against cloak than dash because dash can be unpredictable in some situations but cloak is just cloak. Either someone is standing still and hiding or running around with 90db sound lol
The truth is, all the light specializations are Low A / High B tier. But I think it wouldn't be cool to show that it was like that so he separated them.
Because it complements the most effective light playstyle for higher elo which is sitting back at close-mid range and looking for picks while flanking. Cloaking lets you reposition and always shoot people first from off angles. Obviously if you get super close to the enemy then you are in a bad spot but you just run away at that point or use a safety gateway to quickly reposition
Ahhh i see…. Medium main Detected
No way, the turret finishes kills for me its a A tier specializations
instead of turret we should get a soldier 76 type ult with high cooldown
idk if this is supposed to be a joke, but if it's not, let me tell you why it's bad. Having a spec that literally makes the game less fun and skill expressive for everyone is, well, not a good thing. You could make the CD 2 minutes. That means every 2 minutes, you win every fight. Then it just becomes a balancing nightmare between how many shields and aimbot specs you need to win any fight. As I said before, not a good thing. If you can somehow think of a non-problematic way to implement this, I'm all ears!
:)
what if dash gave you a few i-frames
First