College Pitcher and Coaches Get Into Screaming and Pushing Match
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I was a catcher at a small college and our Head Coach insisted on calling every pitch. I hated it and the pitchers hated it even more. The worst thing about it was our HC was a giant narcissist and if we had a clean inning he would verbally credit himself for calling a great game as we were walking back to the dugout, and wouldn't hesitate to scold the pitcher if he started to get hit around. This guy was also an assistant on my HS team so i knew he was an ass, but once he got a HC job his ego went through the roof. Not saying these coaches are that, but whenever i see a coach calling the game from the dugout i get triggered lol...that guy scarred me for life
I’m grateful to this day I was allowed to call pitches. I’d rather talk with my pitcher than a coach guessing and not being in the middle of the action.
I was an all state catcher as a Junior in high school. My senior year we had a new pitching coach who insisted on calling every pitch. I had been playing the same guys on club teams since I was 9 years old and knew every batter... so I ignored him. Five innings in to our first game, our pitcher was throwing a no hitter. After the side we came back to the dugout and that pitching coach grabbed me... much in the same manner that the Cajun pitching coach grabbed that player. I gave him a warning not to touch me and he gave me shove... so I knocked him out cold.
Yep I got kicked off the team. Yup I got suspended. I did not get charged with assault because my teammates had my back with the police. Yes I lost potential scholarships for it. Ya know what though... I'd do it exactly the same. You don't grab a man like that and expect there not to be consequences. Our team went from winning the conference the previous year to having a .500 season. After I graduated, that tool got busted for messing with a student and went to jail. I played county league for a year then went to school for a degree in Chemistry.
All it takes is one bad coach to turn a season, and players lives, upside down.
What about this- did you try to talk to him before hand and tell him you knew all the batters? I wonder how he would have responded
I’m not sure I got a good look…. Can you show the pitcher walking into the dugout again ? ?
I had to rewatch the middle of this a few times to catch it, I wished he showed it at least 12 more times.
Yes I will make sure next time to add a few more for you 😂
@@AntonelliBaseball I'm not sure what else you could have added. I have not seen any update on the fallout of this story. Any info?
There’s nothing left to add to this analysis. You hit every single perspective.
This is why sports provides great management lessons for life.
Sometimes you have to let a player/employee let off some steam. But it always needs to be done in private.
I was actually the camera guy who shot this, and I can confirm he said that stuff.
Seriously?
No, because I was the camera guy@@tonythackerson6246
The pitching coach wants to grab you right now.
@@tonythackerson6246 yes
Dumb & Dumber reference was legendary!
Having been a D1 pitcher, this topic is dear to my heart. I was always confused on how a college coach could sit in a dugout 50-100 feet away from the catcher and see exactly where my pitch missed. If he asked for a curve ball down in the zone for a strike, could he really tell weather I missed in or out? Because of this, I always believed the coach should teach his guy how to pitch not call the pitches. Of course I want to think two pitches ahead but if I miss my spot it changes the entire strategy. At least let the pitcher shake off and if your catcher thinks it’s a bad shake, then call time-out and go talk to him. I appreciate Matt’s view on the matter. Hopefully the coach can take a deep breath, and refrain from disciplining a young man who is obviously passionate about competing.
Don’t just coach, teach.
a a pitcher i had a coach that wanted to call every pitch with no chance of shaking off the pitch he called. That lasted 1 game and i told him after the game that i was not coming back and i would just wait and play summer ball. that was my freshman year and i made it clear to my pitching coaches from that point forward that if they were not good with that then i would just play at third base. I lettered 9 times in high school 4 football, 3 baseball 1 track,1 basketball.
Not disagreeing with anything you said. I'm curious, at this level would the coaches have tablets in the dugout showing the pitch locations?
@@partytoparty i played back in the late 70s early 80s so we did not have that . most coaches that i had ( i attended seven different high schools 4 different states) did not call pitches the catcher did with the pitcher shaking of pitches he did not agree with. I had a plan for each batter after the first time through line up and discussed it with my catcher before the inning started so we would be on the same page. Usually the coach and the catcher spoke between innings about how the game was going and if the pitcher was getting tired or wild.
Don't most colleges have systems built into their stadiums for pitch tracking and hit tracking? It is my understanding that these systems have replaced radar guns for pitch speed etc.
If coaches have access to that data, they can tell where the pitch was and monitor other things like spin rate and other metrics.
@@swolf2004 in my opinion the catcher is still the one with the best knowledge of the pitchers condition during the game.
I'm so glad I played before anyone told me what to throw. My attitude: if you want to decide what pitch to throw, suit up and get on the mound yourself.
Little league was a good time for you.
I’m glad I played before everyone became so entitled and unapproachable for fear of being “disrespected.”
The guy calling pitches for Louisiana was one of the greatest pitchers in program history. youre soft
As if you knew the scouting report on every batter you faced. lol your soft and seems like you’re from this generation.
I pitched d1. My head coach called pitches as he also preferred to be pitching coach... Then with guys on base you're getting signs from the infielders... I wasn't allowed to shake ANYTHING off.. So I get this kid's frustration 😂
Where did u pitch????😀
@@mrsmukk in the MAAC
Did you ever go to your coaches though and say “what the f are you doing?”
He wasn’t following the script.
@@aristotlewasnotafanofplato3661 i didnt say anything about grabbing anyone. Im talking about what the player did.
I agree with your assessment. Flared up quick and died down quick. It happens when emotions are high. Love the D&D reference
As a former college pitching coach, I started every season calling pitches and it always ended up with the catcher and pitchers asking if they could take over that responsibility. I believe that worked well for us because they were taking ownership of decision making.
If you called a bad game were you also taking responsibility? Or was your pitcher not executing?
Good stuff coach
@samgardner4667 Hi Sam. Yes, I shared in the responsibility when things didn’t go well. Like I said, I gave control back to the players and would usually just give suggestions between innings and during mound visits.
You should count yourself lucky and be proud, because your pitchers had the balls and confidence to approach you so they can call their own game. Well done mate. That’s a coach. 🥇
How does the coach call pitches? Like does he give hand signals? And from where?
Thanks for the behind the scene perspective
I was an asst. and a JC in Washington, our HC called the pitches. In one game we had, a kid who shook off the HC. The HC ran out to the mound, and subsequently got into a yelling match with the kid being kicked off the team immediately. I had never seen that happen before. The kid left in the 3rd inning with his dad, never to return
Good
Good insight.
We saw the same scene 50 times. Nice video.
The old glove over the mouth never fails. I don't think this is the first time they haven't seen eye to eye.
I think the context is wrong. I think the pitching coach wasn’t prepared and he only got 4 warmups in the pen, then whatever his allotted amount is from the mound. So he said “What the F are we doing? What the F are we doing?” “I got 4 F’ing pitches.”
He gave up the homer and as he got warmed up he stared shutting them down.
Sounds to me, but then the video is a total 'oooops' that needs revision...)
The problem is that the pitching coach grabbed the player in front of a camera that was filming the whole thing at close-up range. Any university administration that sees this film--and they will--will get rid of that pitching coach, as he's now a potential liability and lawsuit waiting to happen. If it happened behind closed doors, that's one thing. But this is on film. That's assault, regardless of the context. At the university admin level, it's all about business.
I was in the Marine Corps. In boot camp, DIs have to form a platoon of Marines out of all sorts of sloppy, lazy, weak, scared civilian recruits. And they manage to do it without ever laying their hands on you. These ego maniac coaches who think they are teaching a young man a valuable life lesson, probably need to sit and listen to their own advice. And probably be fired.
This a channel about baseball. Leave your G.I. Joe talk at the VFW bar!
Really .I wish u were there when I was there
@@Great1Duane reported DEC 27 1987
Semper Fi…..nicely put.
2016 DI’s were still laying hands on guys bro I’ve seen someone get fucking drop kicked for asking a dumb question
Btw Matt you recruited and signed at Holy Cross one of my students Dan Vucovich. Crazy to think.
On this one, I think you nailed it.
Teach kids to call their own game.
Um… listen to Matt’s breakdown?
Grandson pitches 10U in PG. He has 1.5 pitches. Main coach in a former D1 pitcher whose son also pitches on the team. At 10U they're already getting the starting catcher to sort of call for the pitchers as a way to keep them focused off of everything that can distract a young kid from the task at hand, and calm on the mound. Main thing the coach will do is vocally prompt form and technique reminders from the dugout.
Kids are stupid 😊
I’ve played at the college D-2 level and my son has played at the D-2 level too my opinion is that many college coaches that I’ve observed have gigantic egos that manifest itself with massive control issues that can be abusive. I personally don’t like coaches calling pitches generally. However, there are many situations where the coaches have charted tendencies, or spotted weaknesses, or have defensive plays they want to happen and then it’s the right thing to do…always. In college, the pitching coach should go over each upcoming batter with the pitcher and catcher so they are all are on the same page. Having said that, we all know that pitchers, all pitchers, are head cases and what goes on inside those delicate, weird heads directly translates to their effectiveness on the mound. Any coach who doesn’t understand the psychology of pitchers is doomed to fail. And any pitcher who has lost touch with his mental zone of perfection should be removed immediately. The pitching coach’s primary job is to get their pitcher into that zone and ride that wave as long as he can sustain it. It frequently requires the pitching coach to be egoless and from what I saw on this video, those coaches are more ego than is healthy for a good relationship between and among the players. Don’t you think the other pitchers and players are watching what is going on? This is not healthy environment.
Nah you and your heathen child have the egos
How many times do we need to see pitcher walk down the steps?
Cajuns got it figured out! ABSOLUTELY ROLLING NOW! #14 in a Country! Gunner is a Young Coach …grabbing jersey at a big deal
I’m glad Dave Van Horn allows his guys to call their own game. It eliminates a lot of this stuff. But it puts a lot of work on the pitchers and catchers to know their stuff though.
What with the hands on stuff?
Every day is an interview, scouts are watching and your baseball career can disappear in college or any level depending on your attitude. As you said, the player is busy with athletics and academics and the coaches jobs are statistics and scouting and everybody wants to win so check your attitudes.
I’d have more of a problem with the picture screaming at his coach if he wasn’t correct. A two strike breaking ball, a 1-0 change up, and a 3-2 fastball are all horrible (and obvious) pitch calls. The pitching coach is wrong in this situation and he’s wrong twice. One he’s wrong for grabbing the kid. Two he’s wrong for his pitch selection and he should be held accountable as well.
That pitcher and teammates should went hands on with that coach you got to take up for your teammates . You gone put your hands on somebody you better expect grown things to happen .
DAMN STRAIGHT!!! I won't give his name, but he played running back in the SEC. Told a story about a coach in college grabbing his facemask and pulling him to the sideline bench. His helmet went sideways and he could not see anything. He said his natural instincts kicked in and he pulled back took a swing at the coach. Yanked his hands off his facemask . He didn't want to hit him - but THAT was his reaction.
@@dusterbuster no doubt .
That couldn’t be my kid. You’re damned right; grown men things would have been happening. You can say whatever you want. Going hands on gets you into things you don’t want and for what? A Baseball game. You want to win, but it’s not that serious. If he can’t control his emotions; then is he the right person to teach? Probably not.
@@juggernautabc5007no you would not 🤣
@@juggernautabc5007 nope he don’t need teach or he needs to grab the right kid lol .
My 2 girls I’m raising know to fisty hands if somebody puts hands on or is picking on you . We will work other details later. Put them fist to work don’t say word just go to work I’m not raising sissies.
Mike: I know this is a newbie question but I've been trying to find the general answer. Could you explain and produce a video of why its important for a left handed pitcher to pitch against a left handed batter (and stuff of this sort)? Why is this important to coaches/managers? Does it really make a difference?
It matters, mostly due to the way breaking balls break into OR away from the hitter depending on the arm-side.
When u pitch to someone who bats the same as you throw it’s harder to see the ball.
@@sz6738 Sincere thanks and gratitude for simplifying it for me! Because of you, I'll now be able to watch baseball matchups ⚾ in an entirely brighter light for the rest of this lifetime 🧬! I'm smarter bc of you. I appreciate you 🙏🙂
This stigma over the last 10 years with coaches demanding their pitches called being thrown and "don't shake me" mentality is absolutely ridiculous. It's not their game it's not their stats. I can 💯 tell this pitching coach has an ego and has a culture that his pitch calling is not questioned. How'd that work out for him? I preach the same as Matt is saying to my students and it is the same as I was taught. If you don't have conviction feel free to shake until you get what you want. If you give up a knock it's on you then but that is how the game should be.
If you get near a baseball dugout yiu can always detect the scent of vinegar and water, not sure why.
did he go back in next inning or was there a change?
Gotta love three grown men who feel that they need to put their hands on a kid in response to words spoken out of frustration.
Don’t put your hands on people you’re supposed to be a guardian of. It’s never appropriate.
Agreed. Scum bags in my book
The "kid" is a grown man too. This isn't middle school lol. Most of the D1 starters are 21-23 and big dudes. Agree with what you said, but stop saying "kids".
Pitcher could have handled it better
But just because someone cusses or disagrees/disrespects you doesn’t give you the right to put hands on them
That was the moment the coaches lost the argument regardless of what the kid said.
@@chrisconley8583 Yep. Plus what's this BS about don't show up the coaches on TV? The coaches did that to themselves. All TV showed was the kid saying something at the top of the steps. No idea what he said to who or why. No one would have noticed or cared until Mr. Toughguy Coach got handsy.
That was one of the most outrageous things I’ve ever seen in baseball by a coach. And the pitcher didn’t even do anything wrong, he was just making a case. Never never ever lay your hands on a player like that!
You guys are so soft. Go have another glass of soy milk. And then have a seat in your safe space.
@@flossdaly8274 whatever, a kid losing his cool, that’s expected. If the coach can’t handle that then they suck. Sorry that you favor inferior ways of teaching a kid.
Step 1 in effective communication: grab their jersey angrily....
pitching coach: check
head coach: check
Reminds me of the Tatis and Machado getting caught going at each other on a cell phone a couple of years ago.
This coaching staff seems very touchy handsy.
They really need to keep their damn hands off of him. Props to that pitcher for not slugging one of them.
The are probably pedophiles
I was thinking that exact same thing word for word. What is up with grabbing a player by the jersey, and the head coach actually shoving him backwards? Not very professional at all.
@@aristotlewasnotafanofplato3661no they weren't. Go watch football practice every day
Never show up your coach!
It’s called battery (applied force) over what; a comment by the pitcher over pitches called? Suspensions are in order, at the least.
Snowflake
Battery? You have to be kidding me 😂
Omg are you serious?? Battery? Get a life
lol battery
Well, if you grabbed my kid , the only thing you'd be worried about is if I let you live to see the next day@@3kidsandadad
Matt you know as well as I do No Pitcher wants anyone calling his game and I agree.
I could be wrong .... but this kid has some nice stuff. His curve or breaking ball is nice. He just does not have major league gas. I take it he wanted to use the curveball more. ?
Not one, not two, but three coaches putting hands on you is excessive. And they weren’t holding him back they were the aggressors. And then to have to go in the tunnel. Yeah that’s not where I’d want to be. It’s like getting jumped in the bathroom. The optics here aren’t good.
They grabbed his jersey. No one attacked him. You are soft like the kids
@@Michael-tj5bk wrong. only person soft here is the pitching coach and others not yelling back without being physically aggressive. if a pitcher comes at you like that, you either deescalate and tell him to stop and you'll talk about it after the game. or you can yell back at him a bit, i've seen that happen in our d1 games as well. what you don't do is put your hands on him.
I'm totally exhausted watching this loop.
Can you imagine if Bobby Knight, Woody Hays or Earl Weaver was coaching today? People would lose their minds.
You still don't need to put your hands on someone to get their attention. If you're an effective communicator, you’ll keep your hands to yourself.
People would be correct to lose their minds. You can't throw things like a toddler(Bobby Knight).
I never saw Earl Weaver try to throw around any of his players so don’t put him in the same category as those two idiots.
Nick Saban certainly got players' attention. He screamed like a madman, but you never saw him put his hands on a player like that.
@@Bruss813Woody was worse; he shoved media members and punched an opposing player. He also taught Knight all about petulant behavior.
This is to a lesser extent but my sons senior year in HS the HC brought on an assistant who was supposedly a really good player 10 years prior. He let him call the pitches. My son played first but also pitched and said the assistant called for outside corner pitches like 90% of the time. Asked the other pitchers Including a kid who was drafted in 10th round by KC a few years ago. They all said the same thing. No wonder they all had their worst seasons.
This looks the continuation of something with that player, with the way the coaches reacted.
They should leave it up to the pitcher and catcher. Coaches have to trust them at some point.
attitude is a reflection of leadership, clearly that is not a happy dugout.
What was the 4th? The Knuckleball?
Tons of college guys have four pitches
U can take my scholarship but NO COACH will ever grab my shirt like that, the glove will come off and his ass will get handed to him. All 3 of those idiots who grabbed him will definitely get fined, they all including the young man pitching could have handled it better but the coaches need to understand it was in a heat of the moment situation.
Cajuns had a tough weekend. Went 0-3 with a handful of one run losses
I think them Cajuns got sharp adadis uniforms😮
I understand the pitcher’s emotions. I’ve been rocked before, and it’s demoralizing and even humiliating. But you can’t openly show contempt towards coaching staff or anyone else, for that matter. Likewise, I’ve been called out before, and I didn’t care for that either. But you can’t go around putting your hands on people like the coach did. This is bad all around, but I’m sure that it’s all water under the bridge now-after the pitcher ran a few dozen laps or so and had his scholarship threatened.
We rarely see the follow up and it did look like the pitching coach came to his senses eventually.
The head coach has to be more chill though, lol! As you pointed out, there are other ways to get the kid’s attention than what was done here.
I would have been in that coaches face immediately after the game if it was my son. If my son came at you using his mouth (even in that lapse of judgement), you should admonish him without putting your hands on him. It is no longer about what my son said. I will deal with that later. It is about why you are grabbing and shoving my kid.
No coach should ever put an aggressive hand on a player. Even if the player was incorrect in their actions, the coaches have to remain calm and manage the situation.
don’t shelter them, if he is being uncoachable and blatantly disrespectful, nah bro, put him in his place. These aren’t kids, these are grown ass men 18+ years old. Good job coaches!
They are 18+ exactly why you dont put your hands on them might bwe swallowing you teeth with right MAN
So, did the kid come back in the next inning?
You’re right to be careful about grabbing players. I’ve seen football coaches do a lot worse than this, but it’s rarely going to end well.
This? It wasn’t really out of line, but the HC was able to take control before it escalated.
Agree 100%. I don’t like coaches grabbing players but sometimes it is warranted, especially when a player is trying to publicly call out and discredit a coach. You take the coach aside and explain your concern away for people and cameras. You should expect escalation (grabbing) if you approach a coach that way.
Looks like a direct result of a kid whose father never put him in his place. BTW, coaches usually notice a player like this and will all have the same approach if they are on the same page (like they did).
High School, College and definitely not the major's should a coach be calling pitches. It's all about the feel of the game.
Well its out there.. we'll see ehat happens.
My son is having a similar issue with his high school coach. He has 3 or 4 pitches. FB, slider, change up and sinker. But his coach only calls FB or slider. He would never yell at his coach but he is getting frustrated at being limited to 2 pitches. Especially when is going through the order a second or third time.
Is his change up and slider any good. Coach might not feel he is confident in those pitches.
@@chriseasterly5142 dose not matter how confident the coach is in a pitch it only matters that the player is. your best pitch can change from game to game and from one inning to the next. That is the way it works in the real world. When you have a pitch that is not doing what it is supposed to do or you can not locate it well that day or that inning ,you either don not throw it or you throw it off the plate for show,. The fact is that there will be days nothing works and days where every pitch works.
I used to come in to pitch when we were getting our asses whupped and we needed to save arms. I'll be dammed if they are gonna call my pitches from the bench. I'm going to throw my emphus pitch dammit!
I coached HS ball and whether or not I called the pitches was dependent on the intelligence of my catcher. Most of the time I called the pitches, but I did have one catcher who was just super intelligent when it came to the game. I allowed him to call his own game and I would have called the same pitches he did about 95% of the time. When I did call pitches the pitcher was allowed to shake it off, for the same reasons you outlined about confidence.
If my son is fortunate enough to pitch in college, and his coach grabs him by the shirt, he learns real quick who is the daddy around here.
Don’t worry, your son won’t likely be pitching in college.
I’m totally fine with the coach grabbing the player. The kid is emotional and wants to compete. You’ve got to love that. It’s all good here…
@@paddyb456 Prison? I think that a little extreme. This is the highest level of college baseball and the kid pitching just gave up the go ahead runs. He wants to compete with his best stuff. I didn’t see punches, just a coach trying to calm his pitcher down. If this bothers you, you’d have a heart attack on the sidelines of a college football game. All the parties involved want to win and it got a little heated but it happens and you move on. I guarantee you the player will apologize and the pitching coach will reciprocate and apologize to the pitcher…. And you move on.
Everyone arguing about who is right and who is wrong in this situation.
I have a feeling that this is the epitome of "When assholes collide"
4 pitches
Stop calling guys old enough to serve their country , kids. They are young men. Maybe, if we did that they would stop acting like 12 year olds.
Man, Even when i played D3 i called my games along with my Catcher. If i had a dictator telling me what to throw i wouldn't have played.
Okay so does Louisiana have a dysfunctional team?
Theyre good tho no cap
Brought to mind the 1960 Topps #115 baseball card titled, "Fork & Knuckler" (~$4), featuring Elroy Face and Hoyt Wilhelm, respectively: maybe a subliminal hint for the young hurler.
The pitcher learned a lesson today on professionalism. Hope it sticks. Its not his team.
Right or wrong the best part was all of the coaches fighting to get a piece of the kid😂 after the 1st coach grabbed him the 2nd coach literally shoves him out the way to hem him up then the 3rd coach reached over the 2nd coach just to push him💀💀
This is my hometown team. This may cause a big stink. There is more to this story. About 4 years ago the softball coach got fired for basically the same reason. It was a major story. Law enforcement got involved. This player holds the careers of these coaches. He could stir the pot if he chooses
Yeah that softball Coach was a piece of you know what. My daughters attended his so-called summer camp and he was a total jackass. I knew a few who played for him and he got off easy. The stories were horrible. My daughter got a full ride to South Alabama and that Coach was a bully too. One of the star players at South Alabama said it was the worst 4 years of her life playing there and urged my daughter to get out after her Freshman year. Not sure I could have done anything but I found out too late.
All the coaches grabbed him. Not just one of the coaches.
Maybe something about that particular kid. Maybe not.
They know the kid !
@@luisgomez-kq5nz We don’t know how close or not close they are. We are in no spot to characterize anything about the relationship.
This is a tough one. First and foremost, if you physically grab someone you better be ready for whatever comes next. I don't care if it is a "kid" who is 20 years old or not. Both are grown men and you don't grab a grown ass man who is 6'4" and 220 unless you are ready for whatever he has for you. The kid may have publicly torched him, but at least he didn't rag doll the guy after he grabbed onto him. The kid may not have handled it in the best way possible, but the coach is 100% in the wrong. I guarantee you he isn't grabbing a guy like that on the street. He had the position of authority and he abused it plain and simple. I'm not soft, that just isn't coaching. Second, it was either a terrible call or the kid missed his location by a mile. Throwing a 3-2 fastball above the belt on the inside of the plate can't be the call with a power hitter at the plate. You know he is selling out fastball. Based on the catchers posture on that pitch versus the other pitches for strikeouts, he was expecting it in and not low. Last but not least, this doesn't seem like something that came from that scenario by itself. There was underlying anger there on both sides.
Wow. Surprised at the pushback with being okay with this, especially the emotional reactions of some. I wonder if this is subject to a generational divide or else a strong reaction by those who received brutal treatment themselves and now are opposed to any contact at all. It’s all very interesting.
The first and second coach, were escalating this situation.
Ragin Cajuns indeed.
I liked these videos way better when it was done the first time; by Jomboy
They should've taken him into the tunnel right away, then do whatever you want. I'm sure there's history here, but that's embarrassing from those coaches. All THREE of them had to put their hands on him? Weird. How about being an adult amongst these college kids? At least take it into the tunnel away from the cameras.
When I pitch, I rarely shake off the catcher. Granted, it's franchise mode of MLB the Show, but still.
Here is a cautionary tale, kids.
If you want to call your own pitches, it's your responsibility to talk to these coaches, and find out what system they use, before you ever step foot on campus.
After that, you are choosing to use the system those coaches use, so dont complain afterwards.
Do you have any other video of this situation besides showing the same thing 50 times.
Got it....he came off yelling....saw it the first time, didn't need to see it an additional 50 times.
Imo they all need a simple sit down.
Pitcher needs to yap one on one. Away from the team.
Coach didn’t need to grab him. Should have said let’s take a walk.
It’s all a bad look for the team but I say let them handle it internally and move on.
Just my take but I’m not from a baseball background. Basketball but same sort of thing can happen.
I’m all about a sit down and clear the air. Hopefully shake hands.
Have a quick team discussion on the matter. Then drop it.
Kid pitched good game. Had one bad inning. Pitchers and Catchers should ALWAYS be allowed to call games, period. Managers should limit pitch calling. Its a 3-0 game and teams have big innings. It happens. Now the team from behind should get its big inning.
The old "everybody involved is both right and wrong at the same time" scenario...
I pitched from little league to highschool and at age 13 I played travel baseball for coaches that played pro or college. But most of the time when I was playing travel baseball it was mostly me and the catcher before games would go over what we want to throw and we would go over the game plan. But lots of times the coach would call the pitches most of the time from the dugout now I never made it to the college or pro level. But I know in the college and pro levels that there is a ton of scouting reports that goes on before that pitcher even takes the mound. Because they want to know how to attack each hitter
Yes...we have had a ton of success calling pitches in high school because we have the data in front of us in the dugout. In my opinion you should force young pitchers to throw pitches at times they not comfortable. I never believed in the whole conviction thing
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Well I think it depends on the situation because if they don't have a good off speed pitch or breaking pitch and they leave it belt high all the time. Well then your going to be reluctant in calling that pitch that he's not comfortable in throwing. But I remember especially when I was playing travel baseball that if I was going to pitch the next game our coach would make us do a scouting report on the team that I was pitching against
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That’s a Raging Cajun. 😂
I'm sure this wasn't the first time for this pitcher to get upset. We got to many soft folks around here. This was not bad and no need to get crazy about it.
Look all athletes have that alpha mentality or competitive mentality and ego because of being on TV in front of a bunch of fans. Well at least at the college level they should. So this is just a chill out grab and bring him back into focus. Plus you need to re-establish the pecking order of who’s the leader of the team. Once you allow this behavior to happen it could potentially open the door to all kinds of problems with players disrespecting the coaching staff. But it’s safe to say them Cajuns were definitely Ragin!! 😂
Can’t do that as a player. Inexcusable. I do understand the frustration of having to “obey the wristband” though. You mentioned 3 of his pitches getting hit, but the situation of the pitch is important, and if he has a sinker, slider, or another dark horse pitch, you need that when facing high quality hitters.
Ya….we’re in the Rockies!!😂😂 classic
Seems like they did this inning after inning? WTF? Oh wait. you just replayed it a million times.
Between men who are teammates in competition this is perfectly fine. Nothing was painful or violent this is just high emotion competition stuff. Anyone offended by this has never done something physically competitive at a high level in their life.
Just because you had shitty coaches who couldn't coach without being physically aggressive, doesn't mean this is the best way nor the only way to find success. Even at the highest levels of competition. Yelling, I understand. Physically grabbing someone isn't part of Baseball. Period. Read @hayfielddraw4364 's comment about the Marine Corps, great example of men training without needing to get physical.
you are wrong
@@mseriously911 It wasn’t grabbing someone’s neck or something. I wouldn’t grab someone’s shirt but what I said is it doesn’t offend me or get me all up in arms about it. People are so damn soft now this was a huge nothing burger, no one was ever in any danger and nothing violent happened. I see bigger confrontations during YMCA basketball.
Carlos zambro?
@@ChosenPlaysYTIts disrespectful! Its like saying" you wanna fight?"
pitching coach has a great grasp on The Chain of Command
I always hated it when coaches called pitches from the bench. A certain rhythm can be attained when a pitcher and catcher have a good chemistry and are feeling the flow of the game. That is hard to simulate from the bench. The catcher can pick up on things the coach just doesnt have the perspective to pick up
On one hand, Without your players. You have nothing Dont treat them this way. On the other hand The player is an adult you get what you asked for.
This wouldve never happened under Coach Tony Robichaux rip
I think all were wrong from what you said. This starts in the club house and how the coach and player communicate. A good coach would have an understanding about the system of the calls would go. Also he would let all players know that if there are issue that need to be talked about that coming off the field like that, is one that would not be tolerated. I think all are at fault. Now we don't know if this is a testy player and he has shown this behavior before. He could be one of the players that he thinks he is better than everyone else. In that case, it is a whole other situation that needs something else to take care of it. Could be that the player and the pitching coach don't get along. Again that is another factor that needs to be addressed. In the end, there is most likely much more to this story than what we see.
So let's see: ALL 3 of (what appeared to be) coaches put their hands on a player. That's a material breach of their contract and a firing offense. An AD MUST act. I don't care what the player said. You can suspend the player if you feel the need, but you can never let the coaches behave like that. (Don't give me the "in my day..." crap; I lived through those days, too. I saw and experienced way worse but it was all wrong. It has to be stopped).