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1176 setting used here is CLA Vocal preset in Waves CLA-76 Bluey.
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This is the only channel I have found which gives good production tips. You cut it straight to the point and give really good examples.
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@@infared4ohell no 💀
Damn, you’re missing out then.
your the best I've seen bro, I've seen a lot of engineers, nothing like u. i can't lie u changed the way i think an mix. got me together quick. ty
Thanks for sharing this! Great bonus explanation of how limiting in the mixing stage can help yield to louder masters!
Yeah works great
Never knew why to limit vocals during the mixing process. Thank you for enlightening me! Please explain more about this topic 🙏🏽
He's actually doing more clipping than limiting. The Pro L hard clips anything that the attack settings miss. As you can see, he has thebattack set as slow as possible, which is allowing a good bit of the signal to bypass the limiter and hit the clipper
An impressive tutorial, this video should have 15 thousand likes, because it is valuable information, given for free. Regards from BR
Nice video 💪🏽 most importantly, you must never lose this beard 🔥
Thx 🙏
Man, those vocals sound processed already.. Wow, that's outstanding Streaky.. I forgot you already get polished vocals.. I have an issue with an untreated room and just getting the vocal to sound right..
I've recently started to mess with waves MV2 and that is also an amazing plugin for vocals, it also really cuts them through the mix, just turn up the low level threshold fader, it upward compresses the signal only below the the level you set with the low level fader. Get some great sounding vocals, give it a shot.
Mv2 brings those deep lows up for balance. Best plug wavs has imo
@@gullcreekstudio1391 And highly underrated and under used
Everyday is a school day... thanks for this :)
The 1176 Rev A is good when you want to add more grit and brightness. Otherwise I’d reach for the Rev E. The compressor that usually wins for me is the UAD LA-2A Gray.
Great vidio Streaky, so helpful to get those vocals sitting perfect in the mix
If you don’t like the breaths there is Nectar breath control from Izotope, that eliminates having to do the breath deletions manually. For some reason I am not liking the 1176, there are others but that was the first. An option I use is the Lindell 254E plug in alliance. And API 2500 as bus compressor. I do like the Fairchild 670 and the teletronix la2a but I have to pay attention on how to apply them, just because I’ve seen the pros do it that way for example doesn’t mean its the way I should be doing it. I do like the Pultec Eq1
This is a well-known technique.
There's a singer I work with and his voice just shines with a 12:1 ratio on the 1176. I then send that in to a CL 1B and just set it until it sounds "right." After that I use the Waves MV2. I'll do any automaton where necessary.
When i compress vocals i use 3 compressors.
1.1176 to reduce peaks
2. Pulltec or l2-2a
3. Distressor on pararel compression to push vocals upfront.
What you think about that.?
Nice combo
UAD 1176 is on sale (80% off) now at £39 in a bundle with two limiters. 🧡 Bargain!
This setup is so good guys!
Tried these settings myself to great results!
Cheers bro!
Same 1176 setting that CLA uses on his hardware.
Very clear and right as usual! ❤
Who can argue with this? Hell, it's working perfectly..
Song itself is fire
From the waveforms of the vocals, they have been compressed on the way in already. This is more important and the reason for "louder" vocals. The 1176 and the limiter are just the icing on the cake. Trying this basic method on raw recorded vocals will not achieve the same results.
so, is the slow attack and quick release the thing that makes the compression sound less obvious? what happens if the attack is quicker?
I wouldn’t even use a limiter on vocals just the 1176 and a second light compressor but each to there own
Yeah that’s another way 👍
@@Streaky_com i do love the ll76 setting though!
man i believe you have the best mixing tutorials on TH-cam!! you are the GOAT !!
Beards looking good my friend:)
Cheers
I'm really really waiting for this track to be out
It never will be its homemade from samples soz
@@Streaky_com you better be kidding me
When you say normalised, normalised to what level of db?
Thank you Streaky 🙏
2:52 i wouldnt add a limiter but a clipper.
Sounds great but try the MDWDRC2 from George Massenburg. Next level on vocals. Not cheap though.
Best thang I have discovered to find what i have searchin, its to use these damn buses. I go positive dB and then drop it to the 0dB level. Is it good? Can You do an episode about that?
Great video, bro 👏🏼
Thanks 🎉
This great Streaky...Question...would a clipper work better...?...If not, why...?
that's it? the vocals were tracked with any other compressor? just -20db on the 1176 and -3db in pro L2 ?
From the looks of the waveform, I'm a guess they had one on the mic vocal chain on the input...
I would be fair to say that a limiter on a vocal chain can squash the vocals since it's a heavy ratio compressor. I would say having a compressor after your surgical eq to shave off peaks for a -4 reduction so that it's leveled the right way after you process down the chain then again everyone's mixing and mastering is different. All love tho and I use your highend tip streaky it saved me wonders in masters
Yeah this gives a super flat sound for radio but not the prettiest
@@Streaky_com It is a good way to reduce volume without automation it’s just like you said too it’s not prettiest sound even on platforms too
What about using a clipper instead a bw limiter to deal with peaks?
Guys, bear in mind that with the CLA-76 it's (almost) always needed a good de-esser at the end of your vocals chain because the esses will sound wild after compression. I love this compressor but I'm not a big fan of super autotuned vocals xD
I'm a little confused with the attack settings on the limiter, it looks like its set to 10 seconds? Would this not just let too much transient information through? I may have misunderstood though! Sounds great either way!
Cant you break down the full mix for this one??
If I'm using the 1176 LN Legacy and LA-2A L from UAD console. Am I supposed to be using Mono or Record. I'm using Logic then there's off course the plugins from Logic such as waves, Fabfilter, etc. Thank you for any guidance.
@Streaky
Thank you for this! Can I ask? This in combination with light settings on Wavesfactory's Trackspacer on heavily percussive tracks (just for peace of mind) pros and cons for the vocals and drums?
Do you have any tips for bass or baritone voices, or does this work just as well for those?
these are the exact settings john hanes used on butter by BTS and some taylor swift track
not that a 1176 has a lot of variation in possible settings but random funfact
These are THE 1176 settings
The info is good but it doesn’t help someone understand “why” if they don’t grasp level matching to be able to hear what it’s doing to their material.
Example: you boosted gain into the limiter to hit the threshold. It got louder because of gain too.
Then your rebalance had the fader go up from 16 in the beginning of the video to 12 by the end. So the processing is not heard as much as the gain is. Yes it’s got more crest factor, and the peak was lowered so can turn it up again, but there’s no comparable amount the viewer can grasp. YOU know how to re level of course because you have the knowledge with which how to apply. But without the in between insight, people will just use your settings and not grasp why.
this. videos like these confuse the sh** out of beginners.
The processing is obviously heard the first time he shows you what the compressor is doing to the vocals, so now that the vocals level has changed obviously one is going to have to adjust the volume of the vocals in the final mix. If you are asking how to "re-level" that just comes from experience and a mixers personal taste and style, also if you want a ball park figure on where to start, if the song has a good snare in it, the vocals should be at least as loud as the snare, but not all songs have a good snare/clap in it, then you have to rely on your own intuition
@@mod3l Well you need to get a good grasp on the basics first, in this case how do compressors work, there are tons of videos out there explaining that.
@@DjJay my point is that it is not “obvious” to anyone who doesn’t already know this method. Any tip can always take 20 more seconds to demonstrate what I said. Just in case, it’s not obvious. A lot of newcomers will come across a title like this and click long before they go through the ear training of learning compression. I say this with love for Streaky. I support his videos overall.
@@DjJay when a video is telling you to "use these settings and get results" one would assume that there's no other variables. But this is just not the case here. Especially when using something like 1176, where the input is highly dependent on the source level. Streaky and a lot of other creators are guilty of this and you really can't take these videos at face value.
Here’s the question I’ve been meaning to ask for a while now….. Should we be track using outboard gear (EQ and compressor) going into recording vocals or should we keep it raw when going into the box? Bcuz if we compress or eq going in do we have to that going into the box?
Depends how brave / experienced you are, but tracking a vocal nicely out the box in the first place is nice
@@Streaky_com Ok thank you for responding. I’ve been using compression and eq while recording/tracking vocals for a while now. I use both lightly while tracking though
And the ProMb before?
why not use a clipper instead of a limiter so that you don't need to push up the volume in the limiter and then drop it back down in the buss?
Is there parallel compression also (from the last video showing the vocal processing ) as well as the 76 in the vid?
Great stuff! The usual silly comments about breaths etc. 😂
i set my 1176 when tracking on 1 for attack and 7 for my release for hip - pop vocals streaky should i use anything besides that it always seems to work?
When you’re attack on L2 is that low you’re just softclipling, rather than limiting
Great one streaky! Get rid of that breaths 😅
is this the first compressor in the chain ?
Saturn would pop those vocals out even more 👌🏽
But Saturn often occludes Uranus.
@@cortical1lol
The song is already good
Thanks
Thanks for the video. Useful! But if you don't have that compressor (I don't), what settings would you use on a standard compressor, such as the Logic compressor? Or wouldn't you use that one at all?
i guess you can use any compressor - he said slow attack and fast release, and ratio was like 4:1, so GR was i guess 10dB
Any compressor with attack and release parameters with these settings:
Attack - 0.6 to 1ms
Release - 40 to 60ms
Ratio - 4:1
GR - 10 to 20db
Insane 😮
Man, do I ever. I need weak, barely audible vocals. What’s that formula?
wow
Leveled out, yes - but level matched, no. Would be great to see what it would be like starting with the vocals on top of the music from the start
why did u start with vocals out of balance like that?
is the singer with a congested nose?
thank u bro
i dont understand how do the dry vocal look like there is compresion on it my vocals is not like that when they are dry thats for shure
It was compressed on the way in with outboard gear. And compressed pretty hard..you can tell by how round things are in the wave
Is it not to much when i take my serial compression and this compression from you and is it not so that every vocal is different and needs different compression?
Depends how it sounds
Nice 🔥
Who did that song? Is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
This technique is only one puzzle in the whole picture.
I have a question. Is it ok to high pass bass like 808 around 80hz?
It’s alright to do anything just do it whilst the mix is playing so you can hear what you lose or gain
Shelves are also good friends, if you high pass do it knowing how you're affecting the phase. For example, try taking your 808, check your peak value, then high pass it, and see how this peak value jumped whereas you're supposed to take some frequencies off
Do you leave those loud inhale/breath sounds in the final track?
Yeah if they are not too distracting
@@Streaky_com Hi, looks like they are a bit distracting... I was about to write the same comment, not necesserly have to remove them completly but automate them imho.
Very loud breaths
Can sound great in the mix
Breathes are all an artistic style depending on the mix you may want those for a natural sound or you can go edit them to remove or turn them down. An engineer will always do those things. There's no such thing as a set and forget it when it comes to recording any part of a song. 80 percent of my mixing is "fixing" things to get a better sounding performance.
😂😂😂😂
I was wondering why you aren't doing Serial. Compression here to make vocals easy and smoother and cleaner and bolder
Automate mate
Do those settings work for rap as well
Yes. But if you want west coast clarity use a DBX160 like Dre. If you want east coast grit use a Distressor like Nas.
@@NoQualmsTheArtist No CL1B for Dre and Nas?
@@martijn_nl nope. That's more used for pop, r&b and trap. Still a great compressor tho.
Who ever wants to have dynamics in their music? We can't be competitive like that
maybe sidechain it to the music afterwards?
Dang. I was hoping for the weak, barely audible vocal tip. Maybe next time 😢
😂😂
This is loudness war, not enginerring.
I was here first 😂🎉
Not my cup of tea. Vocal sounds over compressed. There's a reason why manual riding was king in the 70s-90s. Peaks are musical. Now I'm not saying don't compress (or heavy compress) at all. I'm just saying, at least mix that compression in to about 65%, and you get best of both worlds if you're looking for a quick fix. However manual riding before a compressor is still the most musical (yet time-intensive) way to go. To assist in your compression riding technique you can put a fader before a compressor, and in parallel without effects add a -12db pink noise generator. Ride the vocal manually so that all syllables and words are barely heard through the pink noise. It takes practice, but worth the effort. Pro engineers have a distaste for compressors. Build the discipline, it will reward you.
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I am looking for someone to master my song. The producer gave me mp3. And I didn’t want to go into what he was asking. He wanted me to pay more and he will make another song which again ruined. Anyone who can master mp3 on affordable price.
What's your offer
Can I have a listen of the mixed mp3?
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you need to learn mixing and mastering not just mastering.... :) my little friend... and if you dont pay instruments and produce you are nothing special ... ;) my uk friend
Obviously I’m not your friend as I wouldn’t have one like you…ps you win loser come moment of the month 🙏😂
@@Streaky_com its my job to do this :) after this you gona grow bigger.. if you know me in real life you woud like to me my friend.. i promise
Autotune vocals......prffff it still sounds so damn annoying. Respect for making it sound a bit more proper and listening to it for probably, a lot of time.
Sometimes we have to work with what we are given 🤷♂️
@@Streaky_com Yes, I would do it for the challenge too. Do you mix/ master every genre?
You guys have to realize he’s not even close to the final product 😂 this is to show THE COMPRESSION
It’s brought up the breaths too much.
The pitch correction is just too heavy, not natural and robotic. I wish the singer is capable and can deliver a very soulful performance. Also I'm confused the first time I heard whether the singer is male or female. Song, music and mix is good but not the vocal performance.
Artistic Decision?
It’s becoming a robotic world.
Like it or not, show business looks to the future not the past.
@@_RZ____ yeah, artistic decision because art is subjective. Not many can sing live these days, mostly lip sync and as long as there’s ticket sales. On studio recordings, only a few can make top producers get the goose bumps when the singer is singing from the heart and soul. Music education is also important, like vocal classes teaching proper vocal techniques. Show biz is all about popularity. Music industry is the dirtiest business. You got money, we can produce your tracks even if you can’t sing. My AI will assist you.
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without those expensive equipments you're not gonna record vox that clear 😢 anyway video is good though
You’re just making excuses with a comment like that - I get crystal clear vocals like that with a simple Audient interface and a Rode mic. You don’t need expensive gear!
@@planeguy95 that's why we're poor because you don't know what's crystal clear.
@@Mr.Kinetic you’re talking bs. Stay stuck in that defeatist mindset if you wish
Sorry Streaky, but this is the fifth video about compression vocals. No, it's even the fifth video about the best vocal chain. Dude what's the deal now?
Sorry no more I promise
If it’s good information and deals with different plugins and hardware and uses, I don’t see the problem.
@@Streaky_comthe more info you give us the better, don’t listen to this guy
Why you complaining? He is giving us the sauce in different flavors. Appreciate what he give provides. Streaky keep doing what your doing. Post whatever you want.
@@Streaky_comno , no , your doing great Streaky keep doing what your doing . I’m learning, what’s the deal with that mo…ker. Have to come someone how thinks he now’s everything. And now I have to pay for his msg . Every topic no matter what , I learn something new.
Compression can be done , I think also on effects ? I haven’t done that , I will like to know the correct way to do so .
Please , don’t listen to people like this , there is new Engeneers that will love to know , and how can be better then you ?? I don’t trust every video I see . So keep the compression. Thx Streaky
Too harsh vocals
So much tuning and truncation....
Yeah battered…
Seriously? Set rules? C'mon , man.
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too much auto tune that vocal streaky, yuck