Supercool method! i have spent many hours on the bandsaw cutting gears with uneven results, they work but it takes a day to cut 128 teeth... Would be interesting to see you develop the wider teeth and taper idea, all the best/ Martin
+Wintergatan - Thanks Martin! It was insane watching you piece together those giant gears in your machine. I can imagine it’s not easy or quick work… what we really need is a massive CNC setup ;)
I've been trying to design my own router jig for gear cutting. The trapezoid guide is brilliant, and I believe that borrowing this idea will help my overall project. Thank you for sharing.
very nice and clever. I bought Matthias Wandel's plans for the tilting router lift, but had the same problem. I don't have a bandsaw. Eventually I made the gears with my jigsaw mounted on a simple piece of plywood with a hole in it. Then add a blade guide as suggested by Matthias in one of his videos. It worked surprisingly well, I must say. But after a winter in my unheated shop, I guess the wood started working, and now the gears jam. As I now have a router table, I might try your idea to make new gears.
You are one smart young man. You should be very proud of yourself. Keep up your education and your future is unlimited. I’m impressed. Keep up the good work.
I like the trapezoid guide idea. But I'd make the teeth wider on the big gear. And I'd probably use my bandsaw instead of a router (not fond of cutting with a router)
+Matthias Wandel Hi Matthias! You're right - if I am to do this again I would make the teeth wider, and tapered. I realized later how easy it would be to introduce a taper by just changing the angle of the trapezoid.
+Man na Please don't discriminate against anyone's tools on my channel. If I had a bandsaw I would use it. I don't, and this video shows my way around it. I'm happy you like the video, but please don't go off starting fires.
Very nice process! A subtle improvement to the accuracy of the cuts would be to aim the pointer at the far out part of the printed lines, not the inner part. Given that there will always be a slight inaccuracy of lining up the pointer to the line by eye, any slight misalignment will be amplified the further toward the centre you are, and reduced the further toward the edge of the circle you are.
I enjoyed your video and it showed me I need to broaden my wood workings skills! Thanks for always be so pleasant and clear in your video's, some are not . ~DFolly
I've really enjoyed watching your videos. Your creative solutions are always entertaining to watch. You have mad skills for someone so young. Cannot wait to see how you progress. Thanks for sharing.
Two quick suggestions: 1. Some spray on adhesive might do a bit better for your template than tape. It would give a bit of extra insurance that the template won't wander, and it would give you adhesion over the whole work surface. 2. After the initial cut, going back over the teeth with a rounded bit in your router would likely help the teeth mesh together better and help prevent them from binding up.
I love every aspect of your design and I would like to make one for myself. It is on my list!-this means it will probably be a year before I can get to it as I have at least 5 other "MUST do's"-I particularly liked the way you designed the jig for lowering the Router-that was the kind of "Clever" which I admire because it really gets my creative juices flowing so, Very Well Done! and thanks for the inspiration.
Great job kid. . .I really enjoyed watching your video. Keep up the good work. I enjoy building clocks. . .though your gears are a little large for my purpose, I still admire your work!
Great idea! You may want to play with the angles a little. Wider bases on the teeth may allow for more strength, fuller engagement, and less play. But the setup is beautiful.
Great project! You would get better accuracy if your pointer were farther away from the center of the gear, or even better, a clear plastic piece with a line down the center.
You don't have a scroll saw but you do have a jig saw. Drill a hole in a piece of plywood the size of the jig saw blade or cut a slot it in it. Place your jigsaw blade within the hole or slot. Fasten the jigsaw to the board so it won't move. Flip the board upside down so that the blade is pointing towards the ceiling. Now you have a makeshift scroll saw. Having seen several of your videos; I'm surprised you didn't think of that! Either way, your router jig is a workable plan.
I have often thought of making a jig for cutting gearwheels on my home-made bandsaw (from a plan by Matthias Wandel). Until now, however, I have never had occasion to make a gearwheel. At 4:06, you say "I have a perfectly shaped gear". Perfectly shaped gears have teeth that mesh almost down to the root, using the entire depth of the tooth. Also, the sides of ideal gear teeth are curved, following a shape called the involute of the circle that follows the root of the teeth on each meshing wheel. This makes the edges of the teeth roll against one another with no sliding. It's explained on Wikipedia. Your method is clever, and I think it could be used to make much better gear teeth, but it needs a little head-scratching yet. Great work so far, though. If you improve the method, please post your results.
A very ingenius method of making gear teeth without using a bandsaw. But needs must 😊 I look forward to seeing what you are planning to do with your homemade gears. Great video. Cheers, Dave 😊
I like your approach here, and it will be helpful for many people who have routers but not band saws. But I don't understand the reasoning for not doing it with a jig saw. Drilling holes to form the base of the teeth then cutting out the rest with a jig saw or band saw is a tried-and-true technique. If your jig saw was in as rough shape as mine (definitely time for a new one) I could understand your desire for another solution. But you have a Festool jig saw which appears to be in pristine condition and perfectly capable of accurate cuts. All you need are a couple of guides, just as you made here. And, as Mathias has addressed many times, routers aren't particularly effective cutting tools. Obviously your approach worked but I think the same concept with your jig saw would have been just as effective. Also scroll saws aren't particularly expensive, especially considering the price tag of most of your tools. And there are some great designs for building your own.
+Jon Miller I'd have to try the jigsaw approach to know for sure, but I was concerned I can't control it precisely... one wrong cut and the workpiece is destroyed. For a band saw/scroll saw, I just don't have the space.
Thanks Toolify! I had the same idea to use a router bit to make wood gears and it led me here :) Have you considered the potential of custom made router bits that match the profile of gear teeth? You could only cut one tooth profile per bit though it could be more accurate, reproducible and require fewer cuts than this method. To clarify, the router bit would be the same shape as the gap between two teeth.
As you are using the right fence to guide the trapezoid, the router is not cutting along the central axis of the tooth. The resultant teeth are cut with a fixed angle. Would have been better not to both with the trapezoid as a depth limiter, but a parallel side-guide and end stop.
I'm surprised that a bandsaw isn't in your disposal. That was the first power tool I got before anything else. Anyway, interesting solution for a problem that you have
I suggest that you cat a slit into the pointer'(at 1:40). With that you get better equal reading first, and highest accuracy for any given radius (the larger the radius, the more accurate is the angle).
Hello there my friend. I want to say that I have enjoyed the vids that you have produced and posted. They are very clean and to the point in the presentation of information and your ability to speak clearly makes it interesting without a lot of fluff (like: hems and hahs!). Question though for you and your readers/followers: Has anyone come across a special 4-jaw chuck for a drill? Some drills use a taper and some use a threaded shaft, and maybe some use a pinned shaft too. I have searched (in google and sometimes my own travels) for this type of chuck and can't find anyone to admit to having ever come across one. One thing that I want to use it for is driving taps to thread holes using a drill to be more precise than the normal T-handle normally used. And it would be more positive and non-slip. Thanks, RogerO.
+Robert Echten I used the router bit I have and designed the gear around it. I'll have some more information regarding gear design in the AutoCAD video on my second channel next week. But I admit - I'm no expert in gear design, there are definitely more reputable resources around the web (like Matthias Wandel).
Excellent work! One suggestion though: Your pointer stretches too far over your template. You are loosing pointing accuracy that would be improved if you aligned to the outer edge of the printed template. A straight edge for alignment would allow you to use large and small templates with the best accuracy possible given alignment tolerances.
Hey, i may be a long way past due on this comment but why not use the trapazoid for centering then use a fence on the router and a dowel as your tooth place holder, like a box joint jig? i suppose you would only need the one side of the trapazoid anyways and if done right it would shape your gears to the same profile as the dowel and the first tooth cut profile.
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Supercool method! i have spent many hours on the bandsaw cutting gears with uneven results, they work but it takes a day to cut 128 teeth... Would be interesting to see you develop the wider teeth and taper idea, all the best/ Martin
+Wintergatan - Thanks Martin! It was insane watching you piece together those giant gears in your machine. I can imagine it’s not easy or quick work… what we really need is a massive CNC setup ;)
This is a briliant design and idea to cut uniform gears. The jig design is simple yet perfect.
Amazing tutorial !! Great to chill Saturday!
+jimmydiresta - Likewise! Had an amazing day.
jimmydiresta maybe you should feature this kid in your channel
I've been trying to design my own router jig for gear cutting. The trapezoid guide is brilliant, and I believe that borrowing this idea will help my overall project. Thank you for sharing.
Love the idea. Especially how you walked though to determine the right tool within your current tool set to make it work.
I agree very smart use of the tools you have, great video!
That last shot of them spinning was satisfying. 😄👍
What an awesome approach to gear cutting. Thank you for your demonstration.
The overlap between the gears is pretty mesmerizing
very nice and clever. I bought Matthias Wandel's plans for the tilting router lift, but had the same problem. I don't have a bandsaw. Eventually I made the gears with my jigsaw mounted on a simple piece of plywood with a hole in it. Then add a blade guide as suggested by Matthias in one of his videos. It worked surprisingly well, I must say. But after a winter in my unheated shop, I guess the wood started working, and now the gears jam. As I now have a router table, I might try your idea to make new gears.
+Bartel Eeckhout - Oh no, I can imagine how it felt to have the gears jam. I'm glad you think this video and technique can help out!
You are one smart young man. You should be very proud of yourself. Keep up your education and your future is unlimited. I’m impressed. Keep up the good work.
I like the trapezoid guide idea.
But I'd make the teeth wider on the big gear. And I'd probably use my bandsaw instead of a router (not fond of cutting with a router)
+Matthias Wandel Hi Matthias! You're right - if I am to do this again I would make the teeth wider, and tapered. I realized later how easy it would be to introduce a taper by just changing the angle of the trapezoid.
+Man na Please don't discriminate against anyone's tools on my channel. If I had a bandsaw I would use it. I don't, and this video shows my way around it. I'm happy you like the video, but please don't go off starting fires.
With this method do you think you could swap out the straight bit for an angled cutter, and then make bevelled gears?
@Barry Manilowa Yeah but he is right. So.......
@@toolify He isn't discriminating he is making a simple statement.....you shouldn't be so sensitive....I believe the router is a cleaner way to do it
9 years later...still being watched. Smart way to create wooden gear.
This proof of concept is quite cool. Works wonderfully.
I know this video is 5 years old now but that's awesome! I think you explained how to do this perfectly! Thank you
all i can say is WOW...your so smart,I'm a beginner in carpentry so i want to learn more,thanks for your helpful video...
Very nice process! A subtle improvement to the accuracy of the cuts would be to aim the pointer at the far out part of the printed lines, not the inner part. Given that there will always be a slight inaccuracy of lining up the pointer to the line by eye, any slight misalignment will be amplified the further toward the centre you are, and reduced the further toward the edge of the circle you are.
That is a pretty smart way to make a gear!
+Make Something Hi David! Thanks!
I liked the concept and i can't wait to see what you do with the gears you made.
Clever chap. Nice bit of ingenuity! Keep up the great work son!
Stick with it, kid! You're very intelligent and talented.
Woodworkerstoolengineer (new word) in the making! Youre a smart fella. Curious what youre gonna be inventing else in the coming years!
I think this has great potential. You're one smart kid!
+Wooden Tool Man - Thank you Wayne!
I enjoyed your video and it showed me I need to broaden my wood workings skills! Thanks for always be so pleasant and clear in your video's, some are not .
~DFolly
Well done and I am looking forward to seeing what you do next month.
I really enjoy your unique approach to woodworking. You are very clever and entertaining. Good work!
+Chuck Bell Thanks Chuck!
I've really enjoyed watching your videos. Your creative solutions are always entertaining to watch. You have mad skills for someone so young. Cannot wait to see how you progress. Thanks for sharing.
+Jerry Whitby - Thank you for the kind remarks, Jerry. I'm really excited about the future!
Two quick suggestions:
1. Some spray on adhesive might do a bit better for your template than tape. It would give a bit of extra insurance that the template won't wander, and it would give you adhesion over the whole work surface.
2. After the initial cut, going back over the teeth with a rounded bit in your router would likely help the teeth mesh together better and help prevent them from binding up.
+Urahara1001 - I like that! The roundover bit sounds like a great idea. Thanks!
Your a cute little fella. That's a real clever way to make gears
Bravo young man incredible workshop also your tools are top of the line very professional
very nice trapezoid idea, I'll use that in the future. Look at you kid! you got the famous Matthias Wandel to watch your video and comment...nice job.
I love every aspect of your design and I would like to make one for myself. It is on my list!-this means it will probably be a year before I can get to it as I have at least 5 other "MUST do's"-I particularly liked the way you designed the jig for lowering the Router-that was the kind of "Clever" which I admire because it really gets my creative juices flowing so, Very Well Done! and thanks for the inspiration.
Great job kid. . .I really enjoyed watching your video. Keep up the good work.
I enjoy building clocks. . .though your gears are a little large for my purpose, I still admire your
work!
u must be the lovechild of Mathias and Izzy , love ur video's man !
+mario morijn Haha! This made me laugh :)
Not even close- that is the worst, weakest gear I have ever seen. Izzy or Matt have done much better work.
Inkscape has a great gear generator.
Great video.
Great idea!
You may want to play with the angles a little. Wider bases on the teeth may allow for more strength, fuller engagement, and less play.
But the setup is beautiful.
Brilliant tutorial and very very clever and inventive. Its helped me ...a lot, thank you.
love the creative thought you put into this, well done, you gained a new viewer.
Ok . It is a very good work done with the tools you have . Thanks sharing with us !
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
Great project! You would get better accuracy if your pointer were farther away from the center of the gear, or even better, a clear plastic piece with a line down the center.
Nice Job. Excellent problem solving. Keep up the good work.
Dude, have you approached Festool for a sponsorship? You should. Great video. Subscribed. :)
Very clever ! Congratulations !
Really cool tools you have there young man.
the best method so far..thanks!!!!
Pretty cool idea, thanks for share it.
You are awesome and whoever mentoring you too
You don't have a scroll saw but you do have a jig saw.
Drill a hole in a piece of plywood the size of the jig saw blade or cut a slot it in it.
Place your jigsaw blade within the hole or slot.
Fasten the jigsaw to the board so it won't move.
Flip the board upside down so that the blade is pointing towards the ceiling.
Now you have a makeshift scroll saw.
Having seen several of your videos; I'm surprised you didn't think of that!
Either way, your router jig is a workable plan.
Good use of 2D layouts, def subscribed to your channel
This is incredible! The teeth seem a bit long but the trapezoid guide is brilliant!!!
I have often thought of making a jig for cutting gearwheels on my home-made bandsaw (from a plan by Matthias Wandel). Until now, however, I have never had occasion to make a gearwheel.
At 4:06, you say "I have a perfectly shaped gear". Perfectly shaped gears have teeth that mesh almost down to the root, using the entire depth of the tooth. Also, the sides of ideal gear teeth are curved, following a shape called the involute of the circle that follows the root of the teeth on each meshing wheel. This makes the edges of the teeth roll against one another with no sliding. It's explained on Wikipedia.
Your method is clever, and I think it could be used to make much better gear teeth, but it needs a little head-scratching yet.
Great work so far, though. If you improve the method, please post your results.
Thanks for sharing everything hoping for better projects leading up the world to better place
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Bright young man. Like what yo do.
Incredible! Ahhhh...all those Festool tools!
A very ingenius method of making gear teeth without using a bandsaw. But needs must 😊 I look forward to seeing what you are planning to do with your homemade gears. Great video. Cheers, Dave 😊
Damn festool everywhere!
Nice job. Good design.
Here's a challenge that's been floating in my head: how to build a jig to make a worm gear.
:)
I like your approach here, and it will be helpful for many people who have routers but not band saws. But I don't understand the reasoning for not doing it with a jig saw. Drilling holes to form the base of the teeth then cutting out the rest with a jig saw or band saw is a tried-and-true technique. If your jig saw was in as rough shape as mine (definitely time for a new one) I could understand your desire for another solution. But you have a Festool jig saw which appears to be in pristine condition and perfectly capable of accurate cuts. All you need are a couple of guides, just as you made here. And, as Mathias has addressed many times, routers aren't particularly effective cutting tools.
Obviously your approach worked but I think the same concept with your jig saw would have been just as effective.
Also scroll saws aren't particularly expensive, especially considering the price tag of most of your tools. And there are some great designs for building your own.
+Jon Miller I'd have to try the jigsaw approach to know for sure, but I was concerned I can't control it precisely... one wrong cut and the workpiece is destroyed. For a band saw/scroll saw, I just don't have the space.
+FastEasySmartTOOL As long as you use an appropriate blade for the material and a cut guide it works great.
...really ingenious ...keep up the good work
Love the tools good jig but with tools like that we need gears of perfection lolol good video overall, from Trinidad
Great work.... Thanks for sharing your work and ideas!
Nice work!
Brilliant!, I hate cutting gears on the band saw.
Truly brilliant
brilliant as usual
Thanks Toolify! I had the same idea to use a router bit to make wood gears and it led me here :) Have you considered the potential of custom made router bits that match the profile of gear teeth? You could only cut one tooth profile per bit though it could be more accurate, reproducible and require fewer cuts than this method. To clarify, the router bit would be the same shape as the gap between two teeth.
Very clever! Smart cookie!
As you are using the right fence to guide the trapezoid, the router is not cutting along the central axis of the tooth. The resultant teeth are cut with a fixed angle. Would have been better not to both with the trapezoid as a depth limiter, but a parallel side-guide and end stop.
Nice work.
+brutusman12345 Thanks!
Please make a video on wood shaping / cutting machines both electrical and manual
Very good work!
Man!!! You're amazing.
It's a great job. Congratulations.
Very clever!
What do you think of the Kapex miter saw. It is very expensive. Not sure if it's worth the money
I'm surprised that a bandsaw isn't in your disposal. That was the first power tool I got before anything else. Anyway, interesting solution for a problem that you have
Brilliant, Great stuff!!
Frank
Wonderful job, man! Thanks for this lesson...
really clever for those without a bandsaw.
That is really cool!
great job! becareful though trying to turn a grist mill stone.
Oh wow, this is so over my head! LOL good job though!
Great video!
You genius, i love it!
I suggest that you cat a slit into the pointer'(at 1:40). With that you get better equal reading first, and highest accuracy for any given radius (the larger the radius, the more accurate is the angle).
Good idea great job thank's for info 👈
Hello there my friend. I want to say that I have enjoyed the vids that you have produced and posted. They are very clean and to the point in the presentation of information and your ability to speak clearly makes it interesting without a lot of fluff (like: hems and hahs!). Question though for you and your readers/followers: Has anyone come across a special 4-jaw chuck for a drill? Some drills use a taper and some use a threaded shaft, and maybe some use a pinned shaft too. I have searched (in google and sometimes my own travels) for this type of chuck and can't find anyone to admit to having ever come across one. One thing that I want to use it for is driving taps to thread holes using a drill to be more precise than the normal T-handle normally used. And it would be more positive and non-slip. Thanks, RogerO.
Very good project.Parabéns!
great video keep on making them.
Nice! How did you determine the size of the router bit or does it not matter (much)?
+Robert Echten I used the router bit I have and designed the gear around it. I'll have some more information regarding gear design in the AutoCAD video on my second channel next week. But I admit - I'm no expert in gear design, there are definitely more reputable resources around the web (like Matthias Wandel).
Love your channel! Keep up the good work! :)
+Giaco Whatever Thanks!
You are SMART 👍👍
Excellent work! One suggestion though: Your pointer stretches too far over your template. You are loosing pointing accuracy that would be improved if you aligned to the outer edge of the printed template. A straight edge for alignment would allow you to use large and small templates with the best accuracy possible given alignment tolerances.
Interesting channel. Subscribed.
Hey, i may be a long way past due on this comment but why not use the trapazoid for centering then use a fence on the router and a dowel as your tooth place holder, like a box joint jig? i suppose you would only need the one side of the trapazoid anyways and if done right it would shape your gears to the same profile as the dowel and the first tooth cut profile.
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What change do you need to make to the trapezoid to create ta[er om gears
I draw gears free hand in librecad. Using mainly the rotate function.
Darth Vader hiding under the workbench at 04:08
+Paul Warhurst haha.. the router's LED light?
+FastEasySmartTOOL aha. You can't see him, but you can hear him breathing. The force must be strong in this workshop :P
+Paul Warhurst Oh! I got it :) Yeah... the down-firing exhaust on my respirator points right at the mic.