Long POV: 2019 Subaru Impreza GK 5MT
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- Ken from Moyer Subaru goes with me for a long drive in a 2019 Subaru Impreza with a manual trans. We talk about the long road that lead to the modern FB20D engine.
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People demand backup cameras because you can't see shit out of cars anymore.
that and theyre too lazy to turn around
@Mohammed Aso I think it's a good feature but it isn't something I think should be mandatory for base models. It's just gonna end up making the car more expensive and it's gonna probably cost a bit of money to replace/repair if it gets damaged. It's not like you can't drive the car without it.
That and 2014 govt regulations. It is mandatory on all new cars regardless of trim. But the tech is so cheap it's like $10 of parts, camera and screen.
1113stve If you can drive without it why be concerned about fixing it years down the road?
Except in Subarus because they're glass domes --> good, not lazy, safety design
Mr. Regular, did your bright green parka contain granola bars and a Subaru Club of Boulder, CO membership voucher in its pockets?
What a humble & honest salesman. Seems very knowledgeable.
Yeah, I like that. Telling you to "Just drive the car" seems like a great way to get the pressure of thinking about numbers off you so you can just see if the car fits you.
@@rustyATV You are right.
Half tempted to fly up to PA just to buy a Subie from Ken. Dealerships in the South are ball-sweat-scandalous.
To hell with that car, I want Ken to do audiobook readings with that soothing voice of his.
he would sound good doing Alice in Wonderland (the book).
Sales guy knows his subie stuff
Someone who cares about what he does!
He is a sales man, he was literally selling the car the whole video. It is his job to know those facts, make comparisons and tie in personal stories. That’s exactly how you sell the car.
But the Rev hang isn't for driveability... It's for emissions. So no it's not all the facts. It's a presumption
But yes I'm really digging this salesman. Very chill and cool
He'd be a pretty bad salesman if he didn't
Need for Tweed: Economy Subaru
RCR drove this car. Should bump up the price by a couple of grand.
As seen on RCR.
@@wobblysauce they should put that phrase around a decal on the hood of the car with a picture of Mr. Regular smiling and doing a thumbs up.
@@Phenom98 making a fartface.
Could get a sticker made up and pass it to each owner.
Or drop it $2000 since he probably farted in it
This sales guy is awesome. Knows his stuff well, and you can tell he loves subaru.
Yeah and i love that at the end he says that if you value fuel economy get the f. out of here. A lot of salespeople would try to find excuses to make the product appear to be capable of doing something it wasn't designed for.
The rev hang is in place for better emissions I think. Its not there to make it easier for new drivers or make a bigger window to shift. (Coming from G5 Impreza forum).
Bingo. If the engine is suddenly deprived of air (say, by quickly closing the throttle as you lift off the gas to shift) it leads to incomplete combustion and worsens the emissions. Most modern direct-injected engines will automatically slow or limit the throttle closing to help prevent this, but it comes with that unfortunate side-effect of delaying and/or slowing the drop in revs.
My 15 WRX had pretty annoying rev hang till I bought a Cobb accessport and it just about got rid of it.
@@spudward6902 16 STI here, no noticeable Rev hang for me. Must be put in place on the newer FA20
Rev hang is absolutely only a result of emissions standards.
Or to make driving a punishing chore!
Yeah the sales guy is bullshitting.
But does it have metal tie down loops in the back!?
15:22
I read this in the doctor's voice
"I WANT A BASE MODEL IMPREZA WITH A STICK!"
YES!
Thumbs up for the hand touching at 2:35 and also for the dark future of car culture
The "oh yes" made it that much funnier 😂👌🏻
@@mp-wf9ek that was legendary 😂
It’s a breath of fresh air to hear something good about the GKs/GTs. Makes me love my car again
I'm a subi tech. The new models are really nice, and they only seem to have weird rare manufacturing problems, or parts manufacturers issuing recalls for possibly defective parts like all the brake light switch/valve spring/air bags replacements we've been doing the last few months.
Damn. I thought I clicked on porn.
LONG POV
Lmfao
you did
You did.
While I’m glad that you chose to save the old rusted used Subaru Forester, because buying, repairing and driving used cars does much more for saving the environment than purchasing a newly manufactured hybrid/electric car ever could. However I can not deny the allure of driving a brand new mint car. As long as the car has at least 4 seats, a strong manual transmission, a reputable/reliable engine, and isn’t rusted to pieces, the car’s fine by me. The only things I’d want out of a newer car is a back up camera, forward collision brakes, and the additional airbags.
You are right. Something that I sometimes find concerning at the very least in older, rawer car is the total lack of safety.
Putting aside finiteness of materials, buying a new electric vehicle will do far more for the environment that continuing to drive a combustion vehicle. EVs pay off the Co2 emissions required to create them within a couple of years.
@@Nick-mx2roBut what about the recycling of an EV ? It doesn't take much to recycle a gas powered car, but all the acids and stuff into the EV is nasty.
@@TheCabillaud94 True, that definitely presents a challenge. Personally I feel like repurposing old Li-ion car batteries for less critical applications is the best way to go, but recycling methods do exist and will only get better with increasing demand.
@@Nick-mx2ro right now nothing except for valuable metals is really being recycled. Even now in the 21st century recycling is almost just a myth.
Man you have a really fun lifestyle of driving tons of different cars.
Great ride and drive vid. I bought one of these last year, and there's a lot more info in this vid than any of the others on TH-cam. Stay regular, Mr. Regular.
Since it was technically driven off the lot, do future customers get a fat discount?
Nah, they just tell the customer these miles are there from transportation in the factory and driving it from the truck to the yard etc.
Do you expect a fat discount because another potential buyer took a test drive?
$20K only?!!
Great value.
Yeah not bad huh
Corolla hatch 6 speed has more power, better mpg for the same price
It’s a nice daily. Fun to drive and the wagon has ALOT OF CARGO SPACE. I was able to fit 5 non-foldable wooden chairs in the wagon.
Scittles McGriddles Yes but this has AWD which can be a deal breaker for many living in colder climates.
@@HarryTwatter AWD, enough said.
Under $20k is a tremendous value for this car. It has all wheel drive, a nice interior with nice use of materials, good interior space and it is good looking. It makes a Honda Fit hard to justify at the same price save for the Fit's use of interior space thanks to the "magic seat".
I wouldn’t call rock hard plastic everywhere a good use of materials
BIG J yeah but it's a good way to not make it too expensive
@@andeleputo89Its not rock hard plastic though...Not in my touring trim anyways..
I got the car in automatic and I couldn't be happier, love it!
Alek Shukhevych do you think it would make a good first car?
Ken really uuh laying it on thick, with the "subtlel"marketing ;D
I work for Subaru in Seattle and I’ve gotta say, I think my favorite car is the Impreza Manual. We have 40k leather everything outback’s and such, but I always go back to the base Imprezza
Literally just ordered a base hatch 5 speed!
I was at dealership a month ago and they had an $4,500 markup "above" MSRP ($31,000 total) and I would have to wait two months for my manual in my color. Found an used one the next day in my color and an manual for a total of $23,000 with only 21,000m and still under warranty. Loving it just wish it had 30 more Horsepower. 🏹🤠👍
Basic car but has all that you need.
One thing I found neat about that car is that the blend doors for the HVAC both temperature and air direction are mechanical linkages instead of electronics.
Omg yes! My 2020 Impreza still has the mechanical temperature and air direction dials.
That's a manual sedan in 2019, and I'm just happy it fucking exists. It's amazing.
7:21 This is one of my biggest pet peeves. If they desire max acceleration, YES bang it to red line. If you do the math, that is the way to create the most WHEEL TORQUE. Which is all that matters to acceleration. It won't hurt the engine, it's designed to rev that high. "Stressing the bearings and stressing the system". The inertial forces of that little engine with a very short stroke revving are not significant, you WONT hurt this engine revving it. Neither will you hurt an EJ25 which actually has a SHORTER stroke than this engine iirc, although the EJ25 does have poor oiling to certain connecting rods. Seriously though people, get over rev-anxiety. This isn't the days of pushrod V8s with no rev limiter and flimsy stamped steel rockers. It's a damn ohc engine, it's FINE.
He's just explaining the power band and torque curve in the context of a normal driver. Not everybody wants to bang out the car to the rev limiter, especially if power falls off before the top. He's right, you do add that bit of stress for virtually nothing.
@@emperorpalpatine3088 But that's not clear. He makes it sound like going to red line is the no-no uh oh zone. No, it's fine. It's literally in the design criteria, it will be fine. Most people will probably shift around 4k rpm for a nice moderate acceleration.
Nothing wrong with hitting redline every now and then
@@Levibetz most people shifting at 4k? Most people will never get that high and will be afraid to do so! Most people will shift at 2.5k to 3k max
RCR should have spent at least 3min asking why Subaru never offered the Crosstrek with the god damn 2.0 turbo...who the hell is working at Subaru that completely missed that opportunity.
The turbo models make up a small portion of sales as it is, someone likely did the math and realized it would cost more than it was worth.
Bingo Subaru said it just wasnt worth it to them there production lines are crazy busy at the moment.
They said when sales start to fall they might add one to give the forester and crosstrek the extra umf to get back up I personally want them to put the brz engine in the Impreza
"People demand backup cameras now" .... you mean the federally required backup cameras now? ..... oi
It's nice how manual transmission change over 10 years.
Software to make manuals accessible to new drivers: BEST IDEA. Not being able to disable it for people who have been driving stick for decades: BUMMER.
I'm 2 years in with my Crosstrek and I still haven't learned how to get it smoothly from 1st to second :T
It's for emissions. Anyone who says the rev hang is to make it easier to drive is BSing.
Don't add gas until your foot is totally off of the clutch 2-5
the rev hang is (also) an emissions control method and is a "driving aid" sort of as a by-product to my knowledge.
love base model stick shift vehicles sooo much
dead on - it's for emissions control; the BS story he's giving about "new drivers" is just that, a BS sales pitch.
My first car was a base model stick shift VW Jetta Mk.4. My dad bought it new the same year I was born (late 1999), it became mine once I got my license in 2016. It spent its entire life in the snowy and salty southeast Canada and northeast USA (Ontario, Quebec and New Hampshire)
love how the subaru guy was trying to sell it the whole time
Kinda nice to see subaru made a car that really everyone can enjoy and understand. Sucks they took theyre impreza sti name off but the car I feel is just MUCH better.
Rev hang is more due to emissions rather than trying to make it easier. But the manufacturers can justify it that way.
Rev hang is a bit of a bittersweet thing for me. I don't like it, but it existing makes me think that certain companies like Subaru are actively trying to keep the stick shift alive by making it a little bit easier for newcomers to use.
2:35 What even happened right there?
love, rikorage. that was love.
It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru
If I felt I could make it selling cars, I would be like this salesman. Pleasant and knowledgeable.
Great salesman. No pressure, just relaxing to listen to him. Wish we had the manual option in the UK but Subaru insist that we all have the eyesight tech, so we only get CVT, yet I bet a lot of Subaru buyers over here would get the manual. Traditionally their cars were manual, and I think its wrong that we don’t get the choice. Subaru would sell more cars in the UK. I think they have got this wrong. They should supply cars WITHOUT eyesight if we so wish as I’m perfectly capable of looking where I’m going thanks. Perhaps I should send a letter to head office.
I loooove my Subaru
I'm rebuilding an FB25 at work right now. Haven't done an FB20 yet.
$20k is pretty good for this car. In the UK the cheapest Impreza is £25k ($32k). And that is a 1.6 litre hatchback not a 2+ litre saloon/sedan/Berlina.
And it only comes with a CVT
That's rly strange...Here in Canada the cheapest is 20,900..The base...Tourin is around 22.900...Eitherway its a great car, I love it!
I never thought Mr. Regular owned a Forester, he sounded like he hated Subarus before lol. Maybe that was just WRXs. As a 2017 WRX owner I've seen my fair share of vaping from oncoming Subarus...just never participated. Personally I still like the brand, very solid feeling drive and a lot of value for money. They're usually behind on tech, but I can count the number of different phones I've owned on one hand and I'm 30 so whatever.
18 months ago I bought a base 2020 Impreza, and am very happy with the car. The stick shift and lack of push button start makes the car less likely to be stolen. On a dry sunny day the base Civic is likely a faster car, though not better handling. But when winter comes here in Canada the Impreza will drive circles around the Civic, or any car with a "grip & slip" Haldex AWD like Kia, Hyundai, Nissan, etc.
I have the sports model of the 2019 hatchback in island blue. Full built engine and tuned!
With the manual?
I'm about to buy that exact car, in a manual (but not the exhaust). Should have it in a month. I can't wait.
Hoping you reply lol. how do you like that exhaust? Just took delivery of my 2022 and am looking at future options for one.
@@antonystern5812 don’t have the exhaust anymore it sucks compared to my setup. I have a cat delete on front cat, small high flow resonator, dual exit muffler delete. I’m also running a ton of bolt ons and am tuned. I’m currently making around 160 crank and have a gunshot/flame tune
@@antonystern5812 the car has about 5-6k worth of modifications done man it’s crazy to look back at this comment two years later
AWD and Manaul and all in a dailyable car? If I had 20k lying around, I'd get it..
I would have got this but no manual in Australia, we stuck with the ever slipping CVT, that shifter looks really out of place by the way, like it's straight out of a 90's base car..
Wow... good salesman with the review
I used to have an Impreza Hatch CVT w/ EyeSight(TM). Nicely put together and useful car. I had to replace the rear springs with stronger one at standard height to get rid of the rear squat. That was a really nice upgrade.
I couldn't stand the CVT, though. Ironically, if it didn't do fake shifts, I wouldn't have minded it so much. EyeSight (3rd gen with color cameras, version 2 in the US) was fantastic, and I now have Honda-Sensing, so I have a comparison point. EyeSight behaves like it has a some ability to think about what's going on and adjust smoothly, whereas Honda-Sensing behaves like it just has a decision chart with a few items on it. Not very smooth at all.
However, I can have Honda-Sensing with manual transmission, which is what I have now. EyeSight and manual transmission? Nope! That's why I didn't even consider Subaru. Same issue with Hyundai/Kia. No ACC + manual combinations.
I would like to try TSS (Toyota Safety Sense), just to compare, but I'm not an auto journalist or anything. I looked at the new Corolla Hatch, but it felt too claustrophobic just sitting in it, so I didn't even test drive it.
This is the same reason I got rid of my 2017 Civic Hatch. The CVT just killed the driving experience for me. I would have kept it much longer if it had a stick.
TCS in a subaru in a snowstorm is a hazard. You pretty much have to turn it off so you don't bog out while turning
Need be able to turn it off when stuck
please do an an atltezza is300 2000-2005
I have a soft spot for these base model Subarus
I call BS on that rev hang explanation. It's for emissions, nothing more.
The base now is a car with the options a few years ago, few more and you are in a luxury car.
It’s a sign of youth that you think options equal luxury.
@@DrewLSsix Why no I have a James for that.
4:47 I need to offer up my '89 Toyota Pickup and '02 Tacoma, both SR5 2wd, to show the difference in 1.5 generations of options and refinement. Both currently have issues, unfortunately.
One of the annoying things about the new Subaru head units (noticed when you started moving). Whenever you turn on or off the car, the radio turns on. Doesn't matter if you want it to or not. Doesn't matter if you just turned it off. Whenever you turn the car on, or off, the radio turns back on.
If it was a CVT it would literally be the most boring car on Earth.
I have it in a CVT. It can be, but it also has paddles. Meaning I can lock it into 1st/2nd, turn off traction control, and go to town in a parking lot in the winter while also not destroying the transmission on a new car learning how to drive stick. Part of me wishes I'd gotten the Sport model with the MT, but I am beyond happy with what I have. It's a really great car, regardless of transmission.
@@grayko I thought they had no gears. The paddles just simulate gear changing but it's not actually happening. Sorry man but you're not keeping it in 1st . Your basically playing a video game.
@@iHaveTheDocuments Knew I should have edited the comment to say "1st" and "2nd" lol. I know how the CVT works. Was worth it for EyeSight and it works for me.
Manual is obviously better, but Subie CVT is pretty good compared to other offerings
hes selling you your car
I can’t decide between this and the crosstrek...help me! Ahhhhhh
Long time Crosstrek owner. They are practically the same car just different looks. The Crosstrek will have a bit more slop to the handling because of it’s ride height. The Crosstrek is just a visual upgrade. If I were to do it again I’d go with the base Impreza
@@StirlingMossDrives The Crosstrek adds a factory towing rating too.
Stumbled across this comment which I totally forgot I made. Ended up going with the Crosstrek with the MT. I love the car and am happy with my decision. 1 yeah ownership so far.
Love hearing the engine / performance dialogue.
I’m driving one of these very soon. Could buy one. It’s old school and basic and I love it. I don’t know if old Subaru shifters were sloppy, but keep in mind it’s basically a RWD style transmission with a very short linkage, almost like a Miata which is directly into the transmission. It should be direct and solid feeling compared to FWD linkage shifters. I have a 2018 Miata and the shifter is awesome but it vibrates and moves around when torque is applied via throttle. Totally normal and characterful. BTW it was an L.L. Bean edition Forester. Eddie Bauer was the Ford Exploder.
Lol stark contrast to my 07 caliber. EVERYTHING IS PLASTIC
Rcr you needed to buy this car
I just put an Thornton performance chip in my manual Impreza hatchback and it is so much better to drive. It now has the "power/get up to go", that it should have. Still evaluating the mpg.....😁👍
I'm so excited to pick up my '23 Impreza Sport (with 925 miles only!!!) that I'm watching this video. I can't get it for 5 more days.
New 2022 . Dummy lights not gauges and no CD player main complaints. Just driving around there is no need to rev it. I drove big trucks so anything with with syncros is easy. Don`t like the hang but just anticipate and use it, it shifts great. I drove Subs from the 80s into the 00s. I would put head gaskets and timing belts on every 90000 myself. Got 250000 out them before rust killed them. Did not buy Subs for a long time because of big issues. I called some Subaru service people to see about these issues on this engine and they said that they had not replaced any head gaskets if that be true. So I bought one and I like it, sort of a practical sports car, it is fun. 1500 miles and the last tank got 31 mpg mixed. I will extend the warranty to the max as I don`t want to work on them any more. Time will tell.
I'd love to see you review a late 80s early 90s Toyota Land Cruiser, I grew up in that car
People demand backup cameras because its the law
Cafe Laws demand backup cameras since 2014...
Exact same care I have. Made some changes to it. Accelerates slow, but on corners, it's a nice agile car.
Does this engine still drink a ton of oil?
Great sales guy
Nice car - base model sounds enough less complicated.
don't take the test drive. that's all i'm gonna say. don't take the fuckin test drive
test drive is the trick. it's to show you how much better this shit is than your shit so you can't even go back to your car again
Wish you would demonstrate the selfsuck option.
The rev thing is weird. Just make it normal....
The rev hang is normal now, it's for emissions
I deliver pizza in a brand new VW Up! (tiny hatchback). The electric throttle is so annoying, to start from a stop you have to floor it, which will hold revs at exactly 2000rpm for about 2 seconds if you don't want it to stutter. Shifting is a pain because the revs are never right since they neither drop off nor climb right away. Much easier to rev match our old V70 diesel stick shift.
"I never went straight" 🙄
2:35
I like it when salesmen call engines "power plants".
This car is so American. A bland as fuck sedan with no options at all.
Can I request a Lancia Delta 'grale
Review the 07 versa hatchback
I remember I had the base model Mazda 3, the Mazda gave you so much on the base model for a really good price and if you wanted something not on the base you had the ability to pick and chose all the options, the price for the options was the same as it was on the any level trim.
I still have my mid-trim Mazda 3 and have been considering this or the Crosstrek.... but the engines feel so dead in these cars. I was looking at them because they are some of the last cars left that aren't over-the-top with tech. It's a tough sell, though!
Rcr needs to do another UK tour ! :)
I can't believe this, in Europe we don't have any subarus with manual transmissions other than the STi. And the basic impreza is back to being a hatchback...
I would love a base imprezza with a stick for a daily driver so I could reserve my wrx for weekends. Honestly I think the impreza is one of the best bang for the buck kind of do it all cars, decently roomy, okish fuel economy, awd, and a decent price
@crookback debatable. the impreza is more practical for a daily commuter. A base WRX is still aimed toward performance over economy. UNLESS they bring back the WRX hatchback please Subaru for the LOVE OF GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?!
An Impreza with the 2.5 liter manual would be an ideal Mazda3 replacement.
these new cars have absolutely no soul..
Red cars.
Oh
Me: "but 2019 Subaru impreza, 91 octane is good for your soul"
Impreza: "pssh, please, I have no soul"
Remember using anything less than 89 octane voids your warranty on your 2017 and up Subarus there were signs all over the dealership when I purchased my wrx
Honestly, why can't we go back to the good old days where we drove manual cars? (Looking at you, The Fast And The Furious franchise!)
"..9 out of 10 car reviewers say the impreza is garbage...." But we always wonder about that one reviewer and here he is.
Honestly, 0 to 60 times are just a gimmick.
Lovely chat with the salesman....but are the seats comfortable, is it fairly quiet on the road or not, how does it handle and on and on? I don’t care about you doing donuts in the snow with another car....let’s hear your opinion about this car and how it drives!
im about to buy a 2017 manual impreza from a friend of mine and this video solidified it even more in my mind, i can't wait to be dailying this thing!
my dream car... but by the time i can afford this and get out of uni, it will probably not have a manual (i hear the next-gen will have eyesight on everything = no manual).
What a nice sounding engine.
now only if subaru can figure out their oil consumption and valve spring issues. until then i will be driving my 08. i wish the legacy wagon was a thing still
“I’m gonna look for rev hang” - Doesn’t even know what rev hang is… 😂
Does anyone know if there's a tuner for a Subaru that'll get rid of the rev hang?
This would be a great car to have. I used to daily drive a 5 speed and it wasn't too bad.
waunit
You are Over Reving in 1st and 2nd.... take your time
Which Subaru is best Subaru? Mine is best because salesman said so.