Hey guys, thank you for all the comments. I made this video to show how much money I made with Webtoon Canvas (the side of Webtoons where anyone can post comics, not the Originals where Webtoons hire artists). I made this comic for fun, so any profit I get is a bonus. I am aware that this is not a lot of money, but I still wanted to make this video to show new comic artists what to expect with Webtoon Canvas (and other ways you can make money). In my opinion, Webtoons is a decent place to grow an audience, but not profitable in the long run. If you like this comic and want to buy the physical book, I self-published Sugar and Swords! It’s available on Amazon: a.co/d/0IqTkUk or you can request it at your local bookstore/Library.
Recognized the art from the thumbnail immediately and had to click omg. I didnt know you had a youtube channel! Also Its such a bummer they removed the creator rewards program. Saw some creators complaining about how detrimental it was to their income :(
Honestly we should leave reviews to Webtoon complaining how exploitative it is. I cannot believe these numbers after you’ve put in so much work! 50k view ~ like $12 WHAT
That's roughly the lower end of what creators on TH-cam make. Doesn't seem that bad to me. I really think people just have no idea how little money websites actually make.
@@oo--7714 if you get level of success the website should function to the point of rewarding that person meaningfully, it's webtoons fault that they don't have between chapter video ads, not hers, the site is bunk and not even trying to make money
@@Erribell“ if you get level of success the website should function to the point of rewarding“ So so tbh you aren’t owed anything if you post your works online. Websites aren’t really owed to reward user generated content on the site unless it is contractually obligated. Image hosting is crazy expensive. I don’t think massive adware is the way to go tbh, webtoons is largely free/freemium because the competition is literally piracy sites and going too far with ad monetisation will just turn off viewers. Not to mention most ads pay pennies, only TH-cam due to the google infrastructure pays well, TikTok pays like crap and other site will just pay a lot worse due to less infrastructure. The only way it could work where she gets paid properly is if the website was fully paywalled after a few chapters. She would have made money from people who care about her work rather than someone who clicks for a second them moves away. But most people do not care enough in the west to pay for such works unlike Japan and to an extent Korea. There is less love towards these sorts of creative works.
Every time I see that you wrote Sugar and Swords I get a jump scare XD I found Crystalized through your channel but Sugar was in the recommended on webtoons at some point
Thank you for the video! I love these kinds of videos- they really help people give realistic ideas on what it takes to make comics- and it's definitely a passion project! Definitely interested in hearing how your other streams of income help and your experiences with them, especially on kickstarting your comic book.
Dang, the art grind must have been absolutely bonkers for those 90 episodes. You were basically a Japanese mangaka pushing out content at breakneck speed for those two to three years? Such discipline and drive 😲 I hope you get the financial gains you deserve soon, even if your initial intentions were just to connect with your readers.
This is So harrowing to listen to. You’re very positive and seem like a nice person, but there’s something grossly dystopian about the way webtoon has exploited you. I don’t think anyone else has quite put into words how webtoon has legitimately monetized free labor quite as well as you have.
Yeah, I am a very positive person. But honestly, I think the reason is because I have separated myself emotionally from the platforms I post on. I have accepted the fact that the majority of companies are in it for profit first and foremost. I don’t like it, but when they do actually pay me I take it with a grain of salt.
Nah it makes sense, you have to understand it isn’t TH-cam, there is literally just 1 advert at the bottom. There is no way you are gonna make any decent money, TH-cam forces ads down people’s throats that is why they pay well in comparison, TikTok pays worse, but normal sites like webtoons even less, video ads are a lot more desirable than static ads. The only way she would have been able to make any decent money is through paywalled chapters. The rest though “legitimately monetized free labor”, this is because of the market doesn’t want to pay.
@@KatieCloverArt There must be a better answer to this. >:( I suspect there’s something to be said for the lack of any sort of curated experience - none of the major platforms have any kind of method for sorting submissions in a way that might help you find stuff you might be interested in and they certainly make no effort to review submitted content so they can actually recommend it to you. Starting a TH-cam channel and submitting your comics to websites directly searchable on google might be the best start… but on TH-cam you have the problem of translating views of your videos directly to views on your comic. Every comics related TH-camr has said this is the hardest part. Probably because people who follow you on TH-cam are there for your TH-cam videos and not necessarily interested in the comics at all. :( I’m wondering if, since you’re doing something short and sweet, this might translate to TH-cam shorts? Not animated characters, but animating in the panels like a more sophisticated animatic? Hmm. At least that would focus on the content you’re making and make it easier for TH-cam to direct you to people. I’ll be rooting for you! >:(
@@oo--7714 I strongly disagree, but I can’t impress upon you my desire to buy content that is relevant to my interests and my inability to even FIND that content. Take Globalcomix for example - most of the independent entries are using every available filter tag. At the end of the day the only comics that remain at the top are the corpo publishers or established franchises. There’s no way to sort what’s available into relevant categories. Webtoons is just a sea of garbage. They make no effort to filter or market the comics on the website, and like the “big 4” save their marketing budget to buy whatever bs has already marketed itself to gain any sort of traction - RE: “The Trial,” which might give you some insight as to what is happening in publishing at a larger scale and why companies like Webtoons have become IP farms rather than looking to buy and promote good products. The problem is not sticker shock. People want good content and they’re willing to pay reasonable prices for it. The biggest issue is finding what you would be willing to pay for. What I unfortunately end up doing is getting recommended to comics that have been pirated from their original source and then buying them retroactively, but I don’t even have the space to do that with everything I find and a lot of the comics I am recommended are limited run (kickstarter/doujinshi published for specific events). I wish I could buy in to a small network of artists who publish similar content - like a bulk subscription. It would make it easier for me to find new stuff that I like, but it would also limit the amount of overwhelm I experience looking for new content. :/ like limited fare at a restaurant, rather than “well, you could have everything you could possibly imagine all of the time.” I don’t really want that. It’s too much work on my part just to find something I want to spend my own darn money on.
@@apersonoutinthewild ‘ People want good content and they’re willing to pay reasonable prices for it’ No not really, there is a reason why webtoon is the largest platform, it is the most free out of the bunch, the rest have paywalls with coins etc after the first 3 chapters or so. People do not like to pay for content, the majority doesn’t and will not. Partly why TH-cam is so successful, this just leads to the devaluation of work and need for multiple streams of income if you want to make money online. Either way the amount they are paying is to be expected when there are barely any ads on the platform and half the users use some sort of Adblock. Having a better algorithm to find content wouldn’t solve the core issue which is the bad monetisation strategy which basically means average creators do not make much money at all. Having a decent algorithm, she would still be making pennies due to the fact that her content is free, and not paywalled. Even if it was paywalled it has a good chance of just being pirated on manga aggregator sites and the like. Another issue is the fact that most comics aren’t of high quality and this is honestly to be expected compared to shonen jump which is very cutthroat and only greenlight a few comics webtoons is very lax in comparison, webtoons also primarily advertises towards women now compared to back in 2018/19 where it was just a place for Korean comics and a few original ones, I literally quit using the site cause it was just too much lol. As for advertising I think it is due to a lack of confidence in their western comic portfolio, it just isn’t that high and even the top webtoon artists have quite abysmal storytelling skills in comparison, even the Korean side which is a bit better still isn’t as good as shonen jump.
i guess for context, youtube pays out roughly 0.01cents per view which is in the order of 100x more than webtoon. Granted, webtoon has much less ads but i think it's important to take account that hosting video is WILDLY more expensive than hosting webtoons. Granted, youtube shorts is like 0.01 cents per 1000 view which is much lower than webtoons
Thank you so much for sharing this video! I've just decided a few days ago to start making my own webcomic, so finding your content couldn't have come at a better time. It's really helpful to understand the potential timelines and earnings involved. I'm currently unemployed and just beginning to learn about art and storytelling. Seeing the realities of income through webcomics laid out so clearly is invaluable, though it does make me realize the challenges ahead. It seems like a tough road, especially for someone new like myself, to rely solely on webcomics for a living. But learning from experienced creators like you gives me hope and direction. Thanks again for the insights! And I just subscribed to your channel, Looking forward to more of your content.
This just proves that when your work finds the right audience. You’re well-known in the WebToon community compared social media, which most artists have the opposite experience, but you’re already earning compared to others.. More power and thanks for sharing! 😊
If your comic got accepted to be an original by weebton company they will pay you per episode for a specific number of chapters and the payout depends on the contract , for example if you signed a contract whit weebton that say "1000$ per episode for 50 chapters then they expect you to post 50 chapters on time in return for 50000$ so in general they will pay you 1000$ per episode you post" but this depends on the money you agreed on in the contract from what I heard the payout can varies from 500$ to 2000$ per episode , that's for originals but OFC canvas get paid very very very less , you should have a good art style and a decent story to be selected as an originals , I only see canvas creators complaining here on TH-cam about the payout
I've been working on my comic series, The Laughstronauts, for the last 2 years (currently on issue 8). I've come to accept that this is more of a hobby for me that I'll make a tiny bit of money on. I print every 5 issues in a volume and sell it to local comic shops and people. I haven't bothered putting it online for free because I feel like it's not really worth it, instead I sell individual issues on my Ko-fi shop (it also makes me $0 there lol). But the physical copies have been the best route for me. In the end though, I just enjoy the process and making comics is fun for me regardless if I get money or fame from it.
Oh I remember reading your story. It was fun and cute. But yeah, pretty much the whole comic market is ruined. People just doesnt want to pay for anything but keep demandibg more. Is insane for creators. Few people respect the effirt, even less is willing to remunerate creators for it. Still, happy to see you still enjoy doing it.
Based on that Webtoons sounds like an okay place for an amateur comic that wont take up too much of your free time. Beyond that it should only be considered a way to get eyes on your work. Because of that I have my doubts about if locking your content behind ads is a smart plan.
Nah not really, the artist is putting it out there for free, the webtoons site barely has any ads, most people pirate content on mirror sites ( I stopped using webtoons ages ago). The only way she would be making money if webtoons had the ability to paywall canvas comics after the first few chapters But would anyone pay i dunno.
@@oo--7714 your are not thinking outside of the web toon box. If she used web toons to help grow her own site and email list and used that fan base to push her site even if only 10% of her viewers went over she’d have a an opportunity to make easily 10 times that money on her own site running her own ads. She could be making $500-$2000 per month depending on her own traffic. The legitimate joke that webtoons paid her for her work would have covered the cost to operate a website and email list. Webtoons raking in probably 10-15k per month on her comic based on the industry standards for ad payouts.
@@7heAteles most people will not browse it though that is the issue, most sites aren’t getting that much traffic and usually it is hard to translate 10% of your viewers onto your site, more 1-5 percent. And webtoon users aren’t all that loyal nor do they convert that well into paid users, the fanbases for western webtoons with millions of views is small, and they don’t have much fan art or a really loyal fan base compared to manga. People gather around on centralised platforms nowadays compared to the past. So still I doubt it would be even a somewhat profitable endeavour, you must also understand webtoons has 1 ad , 1 legit alt 1 advert, you ain’t making much money at all over 1 advert (small and static) at the bottom of the page that barely anyone clicks. Webtoons is taking a chunk share but overall it is pennies bro. Legitimate pennies. And they are hosting a bunch of webtoons many of which haven’t been updated in years on canvas. The best thing to do is paywall it but that ain’t happening, no one wants to pay for indie comics really. And who uses email spamming, like what, seriously that isn’t good in the slightest.
Thank you for the video, it was very insightful. Its a shame how Webtoons has decreased the income for canvas creators. I couldnt imagine it becoming a full source of income, but there is still the potential for you to get scouted and brought to originals. As you said doing it for fun and sharing it with an audience is a reward in itself. Webtoons still provides a platform to post and markets it in a way, so its probably still worth uploading to reach an audience. Good work with your comic, and good luck going forward!
I intend to post on webtoons in probably around a year. I always took it as a place to get patrons and the like as their pay outs are kind of what I expected from a free site. And also just seeing how the webcomics I read tend to have links to other places where creators get more money.
OMG!! I'm so happy you use Photoshop too! The art of Sugar and Swords is so beautiful, and now I have hope that I might someday get close to your level. 💕 💞
I loved this video! You did a really good job of highlighting the growth and how much you made, which is really appreciative! I know some people say you should never talk about money, but I think it's important to highlight the truth of how the income works, especially since most people are unaware of it. And your advice on always having multiple revenue streams is very good as well! It reminds me of something my dad told me awhile ago: you always want to have at least two streams of revenue in case anything happens. Whether that's two jobs, a job and royalties, a job and stock payouts, etc. That's not to say consistent income is guaranteed, but if you have multiple streams, you won't have to worry nearly as much if one does falter for awhile.
There is a huge amount of work and expense that goes into building an audience. And you're largely on your own for monetizing it. The last thing platforms want to do is be generous with the people actually putting up the content.
now i'm wondering about how much you would have made on tapas or if you had merch like some other comics out there or something.. it's insane how little you made, yikes :/
Sugar and swords is such a sweet comic. I'm loving crystalized so far. Now I'm curious about how it's doing because you also have a website for it. I suppose I'll just have to wait 1-3 years so that you have enough data on it. Have a lovely day.
Thank you! It will take some time to get more data but I will say from what I have so far, Crystalized is growing slower than Sugar and Swords. But that is something I expected because Crystalized updates are less frequent.
I haven't uploaded anything to Tapas in years but from what I recall their ad revenue program was far more forgiving and you could cash out every $25. I know these days it's mostly K-dramas titled stuff like "I Was Resurrected as the French Bulldog of the Villainess' Step-Brother's Valet" but it might be worth looking into posting there as well. Unless Webtoon instituted some evil non-compete clause or something else I'm not aware of, but from what you've said in this video I wouldn't put it past them.
All this effort, a sh**ton of views, and THIS payment? It doesn't even reach a standard comics industry gig per month, and I'm talking about a zero popular artist like me. Popular artists make triple the standard (the standard is something around $4K per issue). Weebton is clearly taking advantage of creators and making them work like slaves. You can use it as a portfolio to find gigs easily in the comics industry. It's still important to show your portfolio to publishers, but don't underestimate the power of your numbers. Editors are changing their game, and popularity is becoming a bigger factor in finding artists. Or a Kickstarter. With this huge audience, you can monetize your comic easily.
@@KatieCloverArt I see, thanks for the info. I also heard not to make any deals or sign with publishers, and publishing your own webcomic in your own website is much better. What do you think? I have 60 chapters worth of readable material now, I just need to scan it but I dunno how to do digital art or photoshop. 😢
Its just pathetic that talented comic artists get ripped off like that by corporations. Content creators make those companies tons of money by posting to their platform and they just take a dump on the people that supply the product. I'm a professional tattoo artist and I can make $1600 in two days. TH-cam rips off creators too. Virtually all corporate platforms screw creators.
Curious to know - would webtoons get angry with you if you put your patreon details WITHIN the comic at the end of the chapter? (aesthetically of course) Like how some authors put a 'follow me on my socials' section once you finish a chapter? I am slowly producing a webtoon right now and I know that money earned on webtoon will be miniscule - so I'm looking at other money avenues too. Curious to learn what other webtoon artists/authors are doing!
I don't think they will get angry at you for doing that. You can link your Patreon to webtoon so they already have a way for creators to promote themself. I advertise the book version of Sugar and Swords at the end of each episode and have not run into any problems with them.
I thought you going to move on to the next image instead of cleaning up at 1:01 I think your sketch looks great and has a lot of character,no need to clean up just move on to the next and get these comics out
I’m not sure if there’s a market for this but you could try doing cartoon commissions for people? Maybe for their DnD campaigns or something? 1 month’s salary for countless hours of work over the course of years is horrendous! I hope it works out for you and you start getting paid proper money for all your hard work!
Wow! That's crazy. I wonder what they pull in a month in terms of revenue? Like Snoop Dogg said, "Where I come from if you sell a million of anything you should have at least a million dollars.'
Its amazing. If a thousand writers each submitted an 800 word short story each and that was published in a book as a collection downloaded for $2 profit, thats a thousand dollars per writer after tax and editors and soforth.
If your comic got accepted to be an original by weebton company they will pay you per episode for a specific number of chapters and the payout depends on the contract , for example if you signed a contract whit weebton that say "1000$ per episode for 50 chapters then they expect you to post 50 chapters on time in return for 50000$ so in general they will pay you 1000$ per episode you post" but this depends on the money you agreed on in the contract from what I heard the payout can varies from 500$ to 2000$ per episode , that's for originals but OFC canvas get paid very very very less , you should have a good art style and a decent story to be selected as an originals , I only see canvas creators complaining here on TH-cam about the payout
I would go to places where artists usually post. Instagram and Twitter come to mind but discord servers are also a great way to connect with people in the art field. To find some good art servers you can try looking at large art channels here on TH-cam since they usually have discord servers for people to share art. Hope this helps :)
This is so depressing, what are these webcomic platforms for? If only a tenth of those 140,000 views dropped you $1, you would still be walking away with $14,000 a month.
Do you think they would be giving her 1 dollar a month, or even that 10% would pay. More like 1 percent and most would only pay once. Not all viewers will read the next chapter, nor will they care enough to buy the comic.
Patreon, though it has many flaws, is still one of the best ways for an artist to monetize their work. Kofi looks interesting as well. And neither of these prevent you from monetizing in other ways such as producing your own merch etc. Making a living as an artist is a full time job. ;)
not sure why these artists use exploitive for-profit companies instead of self-hosting or using IaaS, would take them an hour to set up an s3 bucket on AWS
@@oo--7714 some of the most successful and well known webcomics are self hosted, and setting up ads and trackers is trivial pretty easy to market on greedy western social media sites but to link to open source self hosted website, retaining user base
@@RM-xr8lq like what, I doubt any of them had animation adaptations or the likes, looking into it, making comics is a fools errand in the west, you cannot make anything that is legitimately successful like jjk at all.
As a webtoon creator I agree I have 3 episodes posted and I have almost 4000 pageviews on my webtoon comic but I get 0 money so I just make it from passion
If your comic got accepted to be an original by weebton company they will pay you per episode for a specific number of chapters and the payout depends on the contract , for example if you signed a contract whit weebton that say "1000$ per episode for 50 chapters then they expect you to post 50 chapters on time in return for 50000$ so in general they will pay you 1000$ per episode you post" but this depends on the money you agreed on in the contract from what I heard the payout can varies from 500$ to 2000$ per episode , that's for originals but OFC canvas get paid very very very less , you should have a good art style and a decent story to be selected as an originals , I only see canvas creators complaining here on TH-cam about the payout
All art is exploitative, the creative industry suck. The real lesson is to get a “normal” uncreative job, stack up cash and go into early retirement and then embrace an artistic career without the risks and stress of economic instability and incompetent employers constantly breathing down your neck and pushing your products in bad directions. It is ridiculous the amount of work and training we artist need to put in in order to match just some average joe’s life quality who barely does anything and simply just clocks in from 8-17. It is really not worth it folks, don’t get fooled.
If your comic got accepted to be an original by weebton company they will pay you per episode for a specific number of chapters and the payout depends on the contract , for example if you signed a contract whit weebton that say "1000$ per episode for 50 chapters then they expect you to post 50 chapters on time in return for 50000$ so in general they will pay you 1000$ per episode you post" but this depends on the money you agreed on in the contract from what I heard the payout can varies from 500$ to 2000$ per episode , that's for originals but OFC canvas get paid very very very less , you should have a good art style and a decent story to be selected as an originals , I only see canvas creators complaining here on TH-cam about the payout
Yes I do! I plan on adding more to my online shop when I have time but here is a link: katiecloverart-shop.fourthwall.com/ I sell shirts, stickers, and more :D
people complaining about the little amount of money dont understand economics at all. its a free site that has very little ads the fact it pays anything at all is good.
this isn't me trying to be hateful or saying you don't deserve more money, infact this is more directed at the comments talking about webtoon exploiting creators. literally how? creating on webtoon original and being paid nuts is where you can call it a problem because then you're working for them, but canvas creation is a free version where YOU are choosing to publish your story because you want to. it's not a job application they're handing out and the truth of the matter is that they have no reason to even pay in the first place, they're choosing to as a way to give a little something back to creators who work hard. ppl in the comments are being entitled lol. webtoon doesn't owe anyone anything unless they're working for them and canvas creators aren't.
apples and oranges. the content isnt being sold its posted for free and the earnings are from the limited ads webtoons has. it isnt even close to being the same thing.
Mostly getting scraps so even if your comic is popular and u become a original creator working for webtoon will be a hell for you because u will be working every 12 15 hours everyday for scraps
Technology has changed the creative arts so much. On the one hand, it’s easier than ever to access a platform and create an audience. On the other, it’s basically impossible to be a “professional artist” in any medium, because the payout is virtually nothing. Visual arts, music, writing - all of it is completely undervalued now because we’re so saturated with “content,” and no one is ever going to pay a fair price for stuff that they can already get for free. You could make mind-blowing original work, but if you dare to charge money for it no one’s going to bother. So you’re stuck in this ad-revenue ghetto, helping tech companies get rich while you barely make coffee money. This is the trade-off we made by destroying cultural gatekeepers (and their markets), and opening the floodgates with technology. It will get much worse as AI becomes normalized.
If your comic got accepted to be an original by weebton company they will pay you per episode for a specific number of chapters and the payout depends on the contract , for example if you signed a contract whit weebton that say "1000$ per episode for 50 chapters then they expect you to post 50 chapters on time in return for 50000$ so in general they will pay you 1000$ per episode you post" but this depends on the money you agreed on in the contract from what I heard the payout can varies from 500$ to 2000$ per episode , that's for originals but OFC canvas get paid very very very less , you should have a good art style and a decent story to be selected as an originals , I only see canvas creators complaining here on TH-cam about the payout
So wait even if you have millions of views on ome comic if you make a new one it ,akes $0 untill it hits a target? Thats terrible. And 400,000 views only gets you $100? This site just. Be surviving off third world countries.
If your comic got accepted to be an original by weebton company they will pay you per episode for a specific number of chapters and the payout depends on the contract , for example if you signed a contract whit weebton that say "1000$ per episode for 50 chapters then they expect you to post 50 chapters on time in return for 50000$ so in general they will pay you 1000$ per episode you post" but this depends on the money you agreed on in the contract from what I heard the payout can varies from 500$ to 2000$ per episode , that's for originals but OFC canvas get paid very very very less , you should have a good art style and a decent story to be selected as an originals , I only see canvas creators complaining here on TH-cam about the payout
Life is short. Its easy to overlook that when you're young. Sure, you enjoy doing this, but clearly you're getting exploited and the returns for your time are not there. Every business person gets to a point where they ask themselves is this working for me, and should I try something else now. I'm thinking the hours you put into this are better spent doing something else. Before long you'll be wanting to have a family, get yourself a home, and all the things that other people want. This is holding you back from that and if you persist you'll get to the point of no return where its too late to recover the income you've lost. I'm not saying give up your career as an artist, I'm saying this webtoon canvas is not worth your time and you should shift your energies to something else.
I’m gonna be honest…this is just sad. Like, you spent two years of your life creating a fun online comic series which accumulated more than millions of views…and the returning pay is practically a roll of quarters, really?
I went into this project not to make money but to learn about comics - which is what I did. The money was a little bonus. Plus, webtoon only has a single image ad at the bottom of each episode so I expected the pay to be a lot less than what you expect with TH-cam ad videos. Luckily there are other ways to make money with comics
Wow that's very disheartening to listen to. Glad you can keep a positive outlook on it though. Just don't let it burn you out in the long run. Does Webtoon allow you to advertise sites like Patreon from your page as a Canvas creator? If so I might give them a little pass since they're giving you a platform to advertise from which you can monetize yourself from. If not, then that's a very exploitative business model that needs to be addressed.
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Hey guys, thank you for all the comments.
I made this video to show how much money I made with Webtoon Canvas (the side of Webtoons where anyone can post comics, not the Originals where Webtoons hire artists).
I made this comic for fun, so any profit I get is a bonus. I am aware that this is not a lot of money, but I still wanted to make this video to show new comic artists what to expect with Webtoon Canvas (and other ways you can make money). In my opinion, Webtoons is a decent place to grow an audience, but not profitable in the long run.
If you like this comic and want to buy the physical book, I self-published Sugar and Swords! It’s available on Amazon: a.co/d/0IqTkUk or you can request it at your local bookstore/Library.
Recognized the art from the thumbnail immediately and had to click omg. I didnt know you had a youtube channel! Also Its such a bummer they removed the creator rewards program. Saw some creators complaining about how detrimental it was to their income :(
Honestly we should leave reviews to Webtoon complaining how exploitative it is. I cannot believe these numbers after you’ve put in so much work! 50k view ~ like $12 WHAT
Bro it isn’t paywalled
That's roughly the lower end of what creators on TH-cam make. Doesn't seem that bad to me.
I really think people just have no idea how little money websites actually make.
@thomasrdiehl right. Free websites work on ads and it doesn't pay much
This is f*cking dystopian. You are so cheerful please never change but they are doing you DIRTY GIRL
they aren't the site has less ads then tiktok, let alone youtube, how are you going to get paid well unless the content is paywalled
@@oo--7714 if you get level of success the website should function to the point of rewarding that person meaningfully, it's webtoons fault that they don't have between chapter video ads, not hers, the site is bunk and not even trying to make money
@@Erribell“ if you get level of success the website should function to the point of rewarding“
So so tbh you aren’t owed anything if you post your works online. Websites aren’t really owed to reward user generated content on the site unless it is contractually obligated. Image hosting is crazy expensive.
I don’t think massive adware is the way to go tbh, webtoons is largely free/freemium because the competition is literally piracy sites and going too far with ad monetisation will just turn off viewers. Not to mention most ads pay pennies, only TH-cam due to the google infrastructure pays well, TikTok pays like crap and other site will just pay a lot worse due to less infrastructure.
The only way it could work where she gets paid properly is if the website was fully paywalled after a few chapters. She would have made money from people who care about her work rather than someone who clicks for a second them moves away. But most people do not care enough in the west to pay for such works unlike Japan and to an extent Korea. There is less love towards these sorts of creative works.
@@oo--7714 yeah, i checked the webtoon and it has almost no ads. like one little ad at the end of each chapter.no wonder creators don't get paid.
Yes they are@@oo--7714
Every time I see that you wrote Sugar and Swords I get a jump scare XD I found Crystalized through your channel but Sugar was in the recommended on webtoons at some point
haha XD They are pretty different. happy to hear you found my comics :D
Thank you for the video! I love these kinds of videos- they really help people give realistic ideas on what it takes to make comics- and it's definitely a passion project! Definitely interested in hearing how your other streams of income help and your experiences with them, especially on kickstarting your comic book.
Happy to hear you liked it! I have more comic videos planned that I hope to make soon :D
Dang, the art grind must have been absolutely bonkers for those 90 episodes. You were basically a Japanese mangaka pushing out content at breakneck speed for those two to three years? Such discipline and drive 😲 I hope you get the financial gains you deserve soon, even if your initial intentions were just to connect with your readers.
And mangakas still make way more than people who do their work on webtoon
This is
So harrowing to listen to.
You’re very positive and seem like a nice person, but there’s something grossly dystopian about the way webtoon has exploited you. I don’t think anyone else has quite put into words how webtoon has legitimately monetized free labor quite as well as you have.
Yeah, I am a very positive person. But honestly, I think the reason is because I have separated myself emotionally from the platforms I post on. I have accepted the fact that the majority of companies are in it for profit first and foremost. I don’t like it, but when they do actually pay me I take it with a grain of salt.
Nah it makes sense, you have to understand it isn’t TH-cam, there is literally just 1 advert at the bottom. There is no way you are gonna make any decent money, TH-cam forces ads down people’s throats that is why they pay well in comparison, TikTok pays worse, but normal sites like webtoons even less, video ads are a lot more desirable than static ads. The only way she would have been able to make any decent money is through paywalled chapters.
The rest though “legitimately monetized free labor”, this is because of the market doesn’t want to pay.
@@KatieCloverArt There must be a better answer to this. >:( I suspect there’s something to be said for the lack of any sort of curated experience - none of the major platforms have any kind of method for sorting submissions in a way that might help you find stuff you might be interested in and they certainly make no effort to review submitted content so they can actually recommend it to you. Starting a TH-cam channel and submitting your comics to websites directly searchable on google might be the best start… but on TH-cam you have the problem of translating views of your videos directly to views on your comic. Every comics related TH-camr has said this is the hardest part. Probably because people who follow you on TH-cam are there for your TH-cam videos and not necessarily interested in the comics at all. :(
I’m wondering if, since you’re doing something short and sweet, this might translate to TH-cam shorts? Not animated characters, but animating in the panels like a more sophisticated animatic? Hmm. At least that would focus on the content you’re making and make it easier for TH-cam to direct you to people.
I’ll be rooting for you! >:(
@@oo--7714 I strongly disagree, but I can’t impress upon you my desire to buy content that is relevant to my interests and my inability to even FIND that content. Take Globalcomix for example - most of the independent entries are using every available filter tag. At the end of the day the only comics that remain at the top are the corpo publishers or established franchises. There’s no way to sort what’s available into relevant categories.
Webtoons is just a sea of garbage. They make no effort to filter or market the comics on the website, and like the “big 4” save their marketing budget to buy whatever bs has already marketed itself to gain any sort of traction - RE: “The Trial,” which might give you some insight as to what is happening in publishing at a larger scale and why companies like Webtoons have become IP farms rather than looking to buy and promote good products.
The problem is not sticker shock. People want good content and they’re willing to pay reasonable prices for it. The biggest issue is finding what you would be willing to pay for.
What I unfortunately end up doing is getting recommended to comics that have been pirated from their original source and then buying them retroactively, but I don’t even have the space to do that with everything I find and a lot of the comics I am recommended are limited run (kickstarter/doujinshi published for specific events).
I wish I could buy in to a small network of artists who publish similar content - like a bulk subscription. It would make it easier for me to find new stuff that I like, but it would also limit the amount of overwhelm I experience looking for new content. :/ like limited fare at a restaurant, rather than “well, you could have everything you could possibly imagine all of the time.” I don’t really want that. It’s too much work on my part just to find something I want to spend my own darn money on.
@@apersonoutinthewild ‘ People want good content and they’re willing to pay reasonable prices for it’
No not really, there is a reason why webtoon is the largest platform, it is the most free out of the bunch, the rest have paywalls with coins etc after the first 3 chapters or so. People do not like to pay for content, the majority doesn’t and will not.
Partly why TH-cam is so successful, this just leads to the devaluation of work and need for multiple streams of income if you want to make money online.
Either way the amount they are paying is to be expected when there are barely any ads on the platform and half the users use some sort of Adblock. Having a better algorithm to find content wouldn’t solve the core issue which is the bad monetisation strategy which basically means average creators do not make much money at all. Having a decent algorithm, she would still be making pennies due to the fact that her content is free, and not paywalled. Even if it was paywalled it has a good chance of just being pirated on manga aggregator sites and the like.
Another issue is the fact that most comics aren’t of high quality and this is honestly to be expected compared to shonen jump which is very cutthroat and only greenlight a few comics webtoons is very lax in comparison, webtoons also primarily advertises towards women now compared to back in 2018/19 where it was just a place for Korean comics and a few original ones, I literally quit using the site cause it was just too much lol.
As for advertising I think it is due to a lack of confidence in their western comic portfolio, it just isn’t that high and even the top webtoon artists have quite abysmal storytelling skills in comparison, even the Korean side which is a bit better still isn’t as good as shonen jump.
I just started reding your comic (im at ep. 27) and This feels like the free guy movie (LOVE IT)
finished. Loved this comic
I just recently watched that movie and yeah I can see the similarities! XD
i guess for context, youtube pays out roughly 0.01cents per view which is in the order of 100x more than webtoon. Granted, webtoon has much less ads but i think it's important to take account that hosting video is WILDLY more expensive than hosting webtoons. Granted, youtube shorts is like 0.01 cents per 1000 view which is much lower than webtoons
Thank you so much for sharing this video! I've just decided a few days ago to start making my own webcomic, so finding your content couldn't have come at a better time. It's really helpful to understand the potential timelines and earnings involved.
I'm currently unemployed and just beginning to learn about art and storytelling. Seeing the realities of income through webcomics laid out so clearly is invaluable, though it does make me realize the challenges ahead. It seems like a tough road, especially for someone new like myself, to rely solely on webcomics for a living. But learning from experienced creators like you gives me hope and direction.
Thanks again for the insights! And I just subscribed to your channel, Looking forward to more of your content.
You're welcome! I'm happy to help out. Webcomics are a lot of work but it's something I love to create. Best of luck to you!
@@KatieCloverArt Thanks😄
I guess it's safe to say Webtoon ain't it. Well thanks for sharing, very informative. Hope TH-cam treats you better
This just proves that when your work finds the right audience. You’re well-known in the WebToon community compared social media, which most artists have the opposite experience, but you’re already earning compared to others.. More power and thanks for sharing! 😊
There needs to be a better way to pay comic artists
patreon
Snoop Dogg said he made 45k for 1 billion streams of spotify. These companies are a joke. Worse than the record companies.
Thank you for sharing such honest numbers and teaching fellow artists!
thankyou for making this, as someone who's hoping to get into comic making himself
This is devastating....
Man, this is so depressing 😭
If your comic got accepted to be an original by weebton company they will pay you per episode for a specific number of chapters and the payout depends on the contract , for example if you signed a contract whit weebton that say "1000$ per episode for 50 chapters then they expect you to post 50 chapters on time in return for 50000$ so in general they will pay you 1000$ per episode you post" but this depends on the money you agreed on in the contract from what I heard the payout can varies from 500$ to 2000$ per episode , that's for originals but OFC canvas get paid very very very less , you should have a good art style and a decent story to be selected as an originals , I only see canvas creators complaining here on TH-cam about the payout
I've been working on my comic series, The Laughstronauts, for the last 2 years (currently on issue 8). I've come to accept that this is more of a hobby for me that I'll make a tiny bit of money on. I print every 5 issues in a volume and sell it to local comic shops and people. I haven't bothered putting it online for free because I feel like it's not really worth it, instead I sell individual issues on my Ko-fi shop (it also makes me $0 there lol). But the physical copies have been the best route for me. In the end though, I just enjoy the process and making comics is fun for me regardless if I get money or fame from it.
great video, I always wondered what was the income of webtoons, ty!!
I'm glad you liked it!
Oh I remember reading your story. It was fun and cute.
But yeah, pretty much the whole comic market is ruined. People just doesnt want to pay for anything but keep demandibg more. Is insane for creators.
Few people respect the effirt, even less is willing to remunerate creators for it.
Still, happy to see you still enjoy doing it.
Based on that Webtoons sounds like an okay place for an amateur comic that wont take up too much of your free time.
Beyond that it should only be considered a way to get eyes on your work.
Because of that I have my doubts about if locking your content behind ads is a smart plan.
You're getting pennies for how much work you're doing- Webtoons is really exploitative :(
Nah not really, the artist is putting it out there for free, the webtoons site barely has any ads, most people pirate content on mirror sites ( I stopped using webtoons ages ago). The only way she would be making money if webtoons had the ability to paywall canvas comics after the first few chapters But would anyone pay i dunno.
Didn't they have a feature that lets you have early access to episodes?
@@oo--7714 your are not thinking outside of the web toon box.
If she used web toons to help grow her own site and email list and used that fan base to push her site even if only 10% of her viewers went over she’d have a an opportunity to make easily 10 times that money on her own site running her own ads.
She could be making $500-$2000 per month depending on her own traffic.
The legitimate joke that webtoons paid her for her work would have covered the cost to operate a website and email list. Webtoons raking in probably 10-15k per month on her comic based on the industry standards for ad payouts.
@@7heAteles most people will not browse it though that is the issue, most sites aren’t getting that much traffic and usually it is hard to translate 10% of your viewers onto your site, more 1-5 percent. And webtoon users aren’t all that loyal nor do they convert that well into paid users, the fanbases for western webtoons with millions of views is small, and they don’t have much fan art or a really loyal fan base compared to manga. People gather around on centralised platforms nowadays compared to the past.
So still I doubt it would be even a somewhat profitable endeavour, you must also understand webtoons has 1 ad , 1 legit alt 1 advert, you ain’t making much money at all over 1 advert (small and static) at the bottom of the page that barely anyone clicks. Webtoons is taking a chunk share but overall it is pennies bro. Legitimate pennies. And they are hosting a bunch of webtoons many of which haven’t been updated in years on canvas.
The best thing to do is paywall it but that ain’t happening, no one wants to pay for indie comics really. And who uses email spamming, like what, seriously that isn’t good in the slightest.
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Thank god you started this youtube channel and Patreon.
Great decision
Now you can make some real money!
Thank you for the video, it was very insightful. Its a shame how Webtoons has decreased the income for canvas creators. I couldnt imagine it becoming a full source of income, but there is still the potential for you to get scouted and brought to originals. As you said doing it for fun and sharing it with an audience is a reward in itself. Webtoons still provides a platform to post and markets it in a way, so its probably still worth uploading to reach an audience. Good work with your comic, and good luck going forward!
I intend to post on webtoons in probably around a year. I always took it as a place to get patrons and the like as their pay outs are kind of what I expected from a free site. And also just seeing how the webcomics I read tend to have links to other places where creators get more money.
OMG!! I'm so happy you use Photoshop too! The art of Sugar and Swords is so beautiful, and now I have hope that I might someday get close to your level. 💕 💞
are you?
Aww, thank you so much! I hope you have a great day!
I loved this video! You did a really good job of highlighting the growth and how much you made, which is really appreciative! I know some people say you should never talk about money, but I think it's important to highlight the truth of how the income works, especially since most people are unaware of it.
And your advice on always having multiple revenue streams is very good as well! It reminds me of something my dad told me awhile ago: you always want to have at least two streams of revenue in case anything happens. Whether that's two jobs, a job and royalties, a job and stock payouts, etc. That's not to say consistent income is guaranteed, but if you have multiple streams, you won't have to worry nearly as much if one does falter for awhile.
As someone who is working on his first manga series and thought of releasing it on webtoons, these numbers are egregious O_O
Just post it on originals and get a paetron
@@ikramtanyafi4601 you can’t choose
Never heard of Originals , is that inside webtoon or another platform?@@ikramtanyafi4601
There is a huge amount of work and expense that goes into building an audience. And you're largely on your own for monetizing it. The last thing platforms want to do is be generous with the people actually putting up the content.
OMG, I SAW THIS VIDEO IN MY RECOMMENDED AND I INMEDIATELY RECOGNIZED YOUR ART STYLE, I LOVE SUGAR AND SWORDS SO MUCH!!!
You bring so much joy. hopefully that makes up for the lack of financial reward :(
"Sugar & Swords" is a hell of a name, amazing! You should sell the rights for a video game or something, congratz!
now i'm wondering about how much you would have made on tapas or if you had merch like some other comics out there or something.. it's insane how little you made, yikes :/
Sugar and swords is such a sweet comic. I'm loving crystalized so far. Now I'm curious about how it's doing because you also have a website for it. I suppose I'll just have to wait 1-3 years so that you have enough data on it. Have a lovely day.
Thank you! It will take some time to get more data but I will say from what I have so far, Crystalized is growing slower than Sugar and Swords. But that is something I expected because Crystalized updates are less frequent.
I haven't uploaded anything to Tapas in years but from what I recall their ad revenue program was far more forgiving and you could cash out every $25. I know these days it's mostly K-dramas titled stuff like "I Was Resurrected as the French Bulldog of the Villainess' Step-Brother's Valet" but it might be worth looking into posting there as well. Unless Webtoon instituted some evil non-compete clause or something else I'm not aware of, but from what you've said in this video I wouldn't put it past them.
All this effort, a sh**ton of views, and THIS payment? It doesn't even reach a standard comics industry gig per month, and I'm talking about a zero popular artist like me. Popular artists make triple the standard (the standard is something around $4K per issue). Weebton is clearly taking advantage of creators and making them work like slaves.
You can use it as a portfolio to find gigs easily in the comics industry. It's still important to show your portfolio to publishers, but don't underestimate the power of your numbers. Editors are changing their game, and popularity is becoming a bigger factor in finding artists. Or a Kickstarter. With this huge audience, you can monetize your comic easily.
Your comic is hilarious. I love it.
Omg, I was planning on making my own webtoon as a beginner, but this just unmotivated. 😢
Luckily there are many other ways to make money with comics, I have heard good things from using other places like patreon or kickstarter.
@@KatieCloverArt I see, thanks for the info. I also heard not to make any deals or sign with publishers, and publishing your own webcomic in your own website is much better. What do you think? I have 60 chapters worth of readable material now, I just need to scan it but I dunno how to do digital art or photoshop. 😢
Very interesting!
I love this comic. I binged it in two days
Great vid!
Sharing to all my artist friends.
Your comic sounds pretty interesting.
It does suck though that working on Webtoon comics isn’t as sustainable. Wishing luck on your success.
holy sht this is actually discouraging but I appreciate you for telling these and I know that's not your intent
Its just pathetic that talented comic artists get ripped off like that by corporations. Content creators make those companies tons of money by posting to their platform and they just take a dump on the people that supply the product. I'm a professional tattoo artist and I can make $1600 in two days. TH-cam rips off creators too. Virtually all corporate platforms screw creators.
Good luck in all you do. ❤
You should put a coloring book together for kids, make a deal with a printer and add a selling link to your stuff. Just a idea for you !
why is your comic so good 😭
Good for you. Still daydreaming about this happening to me
Not really a webcomic person, but I found this interesting
I wonder how much Webtoon has made off of your comic at your expense :P
I love your style 😍
And you look so pretty as well 😊
Yeesh, how tf am I making more through Patreon? I'm sure glad I didn't bother with Webtoons, and that's partly because of my horizontal format.
Such a good video!! I love your art!! ❤
Curious to know - would webtoons get angry with you if you put your patreon details WITHIN the comic at the end of the chapter? (aesthetically of course) Like how some authors put a 'follow me on my socials' section once you finish a chapter?
I am slowly producing a webtoon right now and I know that money earned on webtoon will be miniscule - so I'm looking at other money avenues too. Curious to learn what other webtoon artists/authors are doing!
I don't think they will get angry at you for doing that. You can link your Patreon to webtoon so they already have a way for creators to promote themself. I advertise the book version of Sugar and Swords at the end of each episode and have not run into any problems with them.
No baby that’s not even close to enough. Cant u publish your comic on your own and collect all the revenue for yourself? U deserve much better
For being honest you gained a follower
I thought you going to move on to the next image instead of cleaning up at 1:01 I think your sketch looks great and has a lot of character,no need to clean up just move on to the next and get these comics out
Normally yes I would definitely move quicker with the sketch! This art was for a t shirt design so I wanted to take some extra time on the design. :D
I’m not sure if there’s a market for this but you could try doing cartoon commissions for people? Maybe for their DnD campaigns or something? 1 month’s salary for countless hours of work over the course of years is horrendous! I hope it works out for you and you start getting paid proper money for all your hard work!
We need a better platform
ok i'm following you now great video
About tree fiddy
Wow! That's crazy. I wonder what they pull in a month in terms of revenue? Like Snoop Dogg said, "Where I come from if you sell a million of anything you should have at least a million dollars.'
Wouldnt it be an option to make a slideshow and post it on youtube instead?
Its amazing. If a thousand writers each submitted an 800 word short story each and that was published in a book as a collection downloaded for $2 profit, thats a thousand dollars per writer after tax and editors and soforth.
Even if you haven’t made that much revenue out of it, you sound like a very productive person, can’t buy that
If your comic got accepted to be an original by weebton company they will pay you per episode for a specific number of chapters and the payout depends on the contract , for example if you signed a contract whit weebton that say "1000$ per episode for 50 chapters then they expect you to post 50 chapters on time in return for 50000$ so in general they will pay you 1000$ per episode you post" but this depends on the money you agreed on in the contract from what I heard the payout can varies from 500$ to 2000$ per episode , that's for originals but OFC canvas get paid very very very less , you should have a good art style and a decent story to be selected as an originals , I only see canvas creators complaining here on TH-cam about the payout
What about the Super Like commission? Don't you normally get any super likes?
I would but I'm still on my making my 2nd episode
Soooo webtoon is basically a rubbery!! They're rubbing you.
Hi please I’ve been doing research about it but can’t find any informations how can I get in touch with artists as a screenwriter ?
I would go to places where artists usually post. Instagram and Twitter come to mind but discord servers are also a great way to connect with people in the art field. To find some good art servers you can try looking at large art channels here on TH-cam since they usually have discord servers for people to share art. Hope this helps :)
@@KatieCloverArtthank you somuch this helped me ❤️
This is so depressing, what are these webcomic platforms for?
If only a tenth of those 140,000 views dropped you $1, you would still be walking away with $14,000 a month.
Do you think they would be giving her 1 dollar a month, or even that 10% would pay. More like 1 percent and most would only pay once. Not all viewers will read the next chapter, nor will they care enough to buy the comic.
Patreon, though it has many flaws, is still one of the best ways for an artist to monetize their work. Kofi looks interesting as well. And neither of these prevent you from monetizing in other ways such as producing your own merch etc. Making a living as an artist is a full time job. ;)
not sure why these artists use exploitive for-profit companies instead of self-hosting or using IaaS, would take them an hour to set up an s3 bucket on AWS
They would be in the negative in terms of revenue, not to mention no one would visit your site
@@oo--7714 some of the most successful and well known webcomics are self hosted, and setting up ads and trackers is trivial
pretty easy to market on greedy western social media sites but to link to open source self hosted website, retaining user base
@@RM-xr8lq like what, I doubt any of them had animation adaptations or the likes, looking into it, making comics is a fools errand in the west, you cannot make anything that is legitimately successful like jjk at all.
Like seriously if you wanna be creative just make a game, people will not bother with comics, or art (unless it's corn)
This is bad, it is really hard to make these comic stuff and they are just paying NOTHING
As a webtoon creator I agree I have 3 episodes posted and I have almost 4000 pageviews on my webtoon comic but I get 0 money so I just make it from passion
If your comic got accepted to be an original by weebton company they will pay you per episode for a specific number of chapters and the payout depends on the contract , for example if you signed a contract whit weebton that say "1000$ per episode for 50 chapters then they expect you to post 50 chapters on time in return for 50000$ so in general they will pay you 1000$ per episode you post" but this depends on the money you agreed on in the contract from what I heard the payout can varies from 500$ to 2000$ per episode , that's for originals but OFC canvas get paid very very very less , you should have a good art style and a decent story to be selected as an originals , I only see canvas creators complaining here on TH-cam about the payout
All art is exploitative, the creative industry suck. The real lesson is to get a “normal” uncreative job, stack up cash and go into early retirement and then embrace an artistic career without the risks and stress of economic instability and incompetent employers constantly breathing down your neck and pushing your products in bad directions. It is ridiculous the amount of work and training we artist need to put in in order to match just some average joe’s life quality who barely does anything and simply just clocks in from 8-17. It is really not worth it folks, don’t get fooled.
If your comic got accepted to be an original by weebton company they will pay you per episode for a specific number of chapters and the payout depends on the contract , for example if you signed a contract whit weebton that say "1000$ per episode for 50 chapters then they expect you to post 50 chapters on time in return for 50000$ so in general they will pay you 1000$ per episode you post" but this depends on the money you agreed on in the contract from what I heard the payout can varies from 500$ to 2000$ per episode , that's for originals but OFC canvas get paid very very very less , you should have a good art style and a decent story to be selected as an originals , I only see canvas creators complaining here on TH-cam about the payout
Do you make merchandise like stickers and pins?
Yes I do! I plan on adding more to my online shop when I have time but here is a link: katiecloverart-shop.fourthwall.com/
I sell shirts, stickers, and more :D
@@KatieCloverArt they look cute! If you don’t mind me asking, do those make you enough money to cover how little you get from webtoons?
people complaining about the little amount of money dont understand economics at all. its a free site that has very little ads the fact it pays anything at all is good.
webtoons gives so less? damn
*reads comic on free site*
this isn't me trying to be hateful or saying you don't deserve more money, infact this is more directed at the comments talking about webtoon exploiting creators. literally how? creating on webtoon original and being paid nuts is where you can call it a problem because then you're working for them, but canvas creation is a free version where YOU are choosing to publish your story because you want to. it's not a job application they're handing out and the truth of the matter is that they have no reason to even pay in the first place, they're choosing to as a way to give a little something back to creators who work hard. ppl in the comments are being entitled lol. webtoon doesn't owe anyone anything unless they're working for them and canvas creators aren't.
At that point, you would make more money attempting to self publishing. Why are you letting yourself get exploited like this?
How? Paper books? She isplanning to self publish those too. She has digital copies in her store.
To be frank as much views as you give them that amount of pay is criminal
Imagine if a manga sold 2 million copies and the artist only made $1600. That's no way to sustain any industry.
apples and oranges. the content isnt being sold its posted for free and the earnings are from the limited ads webtoons has. it isnt even close to being the same thing.
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Wait. What?!
Youre making money from comics?!
Mostly getting scraps so even if your comic is popular and u become a original creator working for webtoon will be a hell for you because u will be working every 12 15 hours everyday for scraps
Even ten damn cents would have been better than this.
Technology has changed the creative arts so much. On the one hand, it’s easier than ever to access a platform and create an audience. On the other, it’s basically impossible to be a “professional artist” in any medium, because the payout is virtually nothing. Visual arts, music, writing - all of it is completely undervalued now because we’re so saturated with “content,” and no one is ever going to pay a fair price for stuff that they can already get for free.
You could make mind-blowing original work, but if you dare to charge money for it no one’s going to bother. So you’re stuck in this ad-revenue ghetto, helping tech companies get rich while you barely make coffee money. This is the trade-off we made by destroying cultural gatekeepers (and their markets), and opening the floodgates with technology. It will get much worse as AI becomes normalized.
If your comic got accepted to be an original by weebton company they will pay you per episode for a specific number of chapters and the payout depends on the contract , for example if you signed a contract whit weebton that say "1000$ per episode for 50 chapters then they expect you to post 50 chapters on time in return for 50000$ so in general they will pay you 1000$ per episode you post" but this depends on the money you agreed on in the contract from what I heard the payout can varies from 500$ to 2000$ per episode , that's for originals but OFC canvas get paid very very very less , you should have a good art style and a decent story to be selected as an originals , I only see canvas creators complaining here on TH-cam about the payout
If you could get 1 dollar per view you'd made bank
So wait even if you have millions of views on ome comic if you make a new one it ,akes $0 untill it hits a target? Thats terrible. And 400,000 views only gets you $100? This site just. Be surviving off third world countries.
If your comic got accepted to be an original by weebton company they will pay you per episode for a specific number of chapters and the payout depends on the contract , for example if you signed a contract whit weebton that say "1000$ per episode for 50 chapters then they expect you to post 50 chapters on time in return for 50000$ so in general they will pay you 1000$ per episode you post" but this depends on the money you agreed on in the contract from what I heard the payout can varies from 500$ to 2000$ per episode , that's for originals but OFC canvas get paid very very very less , you should have a good art style and a decent story to be selected as an originals , I only see canvas creators complaining here on TH-cam about the payout
Do something serious story
i didnt even saw it
Get to the point! Sorry I just wanna know fast.
Also do you still own the copyright?????
I need money! So hard to earn!
It's not that Webtoons is exploitive, it's that it's much smaller than TH-cam or TikTok so its audience is smaller and it makes less money from ads.
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Life is short. Its easy to overlook that when you're young. Sure, you enjoy doing this, but clearly you're getting exploited and the returns for your time are not there. Every business person gets to a point where they ask themselves is this working for me, and should I try something else now. I'm thinking the hours you put into this are better spent doing something else. Before long you'll be wanting to have a family, get yourself a home, and all the things that other people want. This is holding you back from that and if you persist you'll get to the point of no return where its too late to recover the income you've lost. I'm not saying give up your career as an artist, I'm saying this webtoon canvas is not worth your time and you should shift your energies to something else.
I’m gonna be honest…this is just sad. Like, you spent two years of your life creating a fun online comic series which accumulated more than millions of views…and the returning pay is practically a roll of quarters, really?
I went into this project not to make money but to learn about comics - which is what I did. The money was a little bonus.
Plus, webtoon only has a single image ad at the bottom of each episode so I expected the pay to be a lot less than what you expect with TH-cam ad videos. Luckily there are other ways to make money with comics
Wow that's very disheartening to listen to. Glad you can keep a positive outlook on it though. Just don't let it burn you out in the long run. Does Webtoon allow you to advertise sites like Patreon from your page as a Canvas creator? If so I might give them a little pass since they're giving you a platform to advertise from which you can monetize yourself from. If not, then that's a very exploitative business model that needs to be addressed.
publish a physical comic book
Soon with web comic AI you won't be earning any money anyway.