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- Kenilworth Castle , English Heritage site. We enquire about drone flying and soon find out they are very against drones. After a compromise the drone goes up.
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She STILL thinks policy trumps law 🙄
Bye laws trump CAA laws however. Read NT website and educate yourself.
@@chrishall197 on airspace? Don't be silly
@@nikaveyard1176 Yes indeed. CAA on their own website state some bye laws can apply.
@@chrishall197 They same byelaws MAY apply, they make no specific reference and it seems it's just an easy get out of jail free card for the CAA.
In addition the National Trust website says:
In addition, any unauthorised use of a drone (either flown ‘over’ or ‘from’ relevant land) may constitute a trespass, nuisance or harassment depending on how it is flown and the impact of the use. These are civil claims which landowners, including the National Trust or other affected parties may bring, and which fall outside the CAA (Civil Aviation Authority) guidance.
I am not a solicitor but the wording of that seems to suggest that they are extremely ambiguous in that is MAY constitute a trespass, nuisance or harassment depending on how it is flown and the impact of the use. It doesn't specifically list any offence and suggests that its a civil matter like common trespass.
More interestingly, they quote
"In accordance with the UK CAA (Civil Aviation Authority) Drone Code 2024, which states that byelaws can restrict drone flight, the National Trust Byelaws, constituted by Acts of Parliament, clearly express that an unauthorised person shall not operate an airborne vehicle or machine over National Trust property."
The latest Byelaws they quote on the National Trust website were constituted in 1965, and only refers to means of conveyance when in reference to any flying machine, on the documents made available on the National Trust website, I can't find where they have quoted that from. Happy to be correct though, I only had a fairly quick look.
@@chrishall197 Do bye laws cover private and commercial aircraft too?
Little Miss.Badgy Lanyard is not used to being disobeyed by members of the great unwashed is she?!
that is what you get with the woke left kids
oih.. speak for yourself. I have a bath EVERY xmas whether I need it or not. :)
@@BO3L3 Wonder what protests she frequents?
Her argument is totally illogical when she says he’s not taking ‘no’ for an answer, when she herself is not taking no for an answer.
How bloody silly can you get?
@@WhiteDieselShed
"I have a bath EVERY xmas whether I need it or not."
But only to wash the bath.
They live in a completely different world
A woke world viewed through rose tinted spectacles, indoctrinated at university can't get a proper job. Work for NT, look down their noses at ordinary people.
They have all been trained not to understand the law
But let's be honest. He's doing a piss poor job explaining the app and that their policy is not the law.
@@daytona1212 You do have a valid point mate
@@daytona1212 He doesn't have to explain anything.
@@daytona1212 But that is not his job. It is the job of their management.
There's only 3 laws yeah?🤔
Katharine the castle supervisor could not see over the shortcomings of their policy. However, thanks to you and your drone, we got a wonderful view over the castle.
Mental how they think a DJI mini will damage a castle 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Yeah. Castles built to withstand canon balls, fire arrows etc.😅
@@scruffyalice-ff5pz 😂😂🤦🏼♂️
That’s the funniest thing I’ve ever heard. If Oliver Cromwell had a few mini drones he could have saved a fortune in cannon balls.
🤣I was just thinking that - it's clearly a very delicate castle, unlike other castles which aren't, because they're castles.
The DJI 249g Trebuchet shot in winter can cause great damage to those 8 foot think stone walls that have stood for 800 years..........
All these buildings are only 50 years old. Just in last 10 years there all crumbling because of the number of drones that have crashed into them
Brilliant🤣😂😅
Ask them if they would like to advertise on your channel 😂
DJE = Nationally Trusted channel
Keep doing the NT sites until one day perhaps they say ok😅😅😅😅😅😅
He doesn't want that does he, he wants the drama.
@@eastlondon666 there would be no 'drama' if these ultracrepidarian wannabe bullies would just mind their own business. They clearly don't know the law and don't want to. Their ignorant hubris will be their undoing.
They have said it's ok, just not from their land. Or rather, they've acknowledged they can't control the airspace above their land.
Shop girl seems full of self importance…
I bet you would though😘
Yep even taking over the convo when her manager was talking
Miss know it all goodie too shoes..
Woke af
Shop woman is just trying to do her job whilst a grown man tries to bully her because she said no to his shitty little drone being flown over the site.
@@indirj9204
Her job isn't to prevent law abiding citizens going about their lawful business.
The first bloke seemed so sure on the laws he makes up
They’ve got that windy wind. You can’t fly your drone when there’s windy wind
Amazing how all these businesses believe that they own the airspace as they always say no, also looking at your video you get to see the true beauty of the site other than just walking around it and it could well get more people wanting to visit having seen this.
I would say to them ok if you own the airspace over your property up to what height do you own it 🙂
They say it might hit the building, I think a 249g drone would come off worse
A bit like jet planes hitting the twin towers, they bought those down.................didn't they ?
They must think the building is only 200 grammes. The Science behind their logic. Private Education wasted again.
Well, those walls do have an achilles heel. Maybe the
National Trust think that the drone is trebuchet powered?
undoubtedly .but the monument is irreplaceable, the drone isn't.
My god not again 😂 why don't these people understand the LAW
Nat Trust Are woke, They think they have powers they don't
I think if the national trust had any sense they would ask if they could use your brilliant videos to advertise their sites
Its not National Trust, its English Heritage but yes
Their
@@Trollspeil Sorry about my spelling mistake but ive just had a brain aneurysm and finding it hard at the moment
Would really love to see you do a silent drone audit from outside in public and keep turning your back to them and ignoring you when all staff come into public and harass you lol
The two people behind reception are just blatant, open liars. I can't imagine ever remaining friends with people so open to lying directly to my face. No drones have damaged that castle. Obvious lie.
And that guy pretending that he went on the goverment website and found the site "blacked out" was such an egregous lie, I mean, no such site even exists! What an absurd thing to lie about.
Grown adults totally OK with blatantly lying on camera... It always shocks me.
Seems like once someone gives some power to the youth, their logic disappears. I was once a youth too and did the same thing but with no lies.
@@BeverlycandaceRose What did you do?
Future Prime Ministers credentials, and part of the middle class ignorance bubble.
@@ThunderChunky101 I can't remember but I know it was something. I will respond again after I search my brain. I'm 75 now. lol
"No drones have damaged that castle." - when i heard this i thought to myself: What is the idea of building a castle? Ahh yes, to set a claim to a territory and defend this claim with the castle. Therefore, and you might be surprised to hear that, castles are build to withstand attacks. Things like arrows, pikes and stuff. So i guess, and it's a wild one, a drone would have quite some problems to "damage" such a structure :)
Oh, brilliant work DJE, thank you so much sir! .
Not Allowed 🚫🤣
The delusion and self entitlement continues from the misinformed staff.
I'd say the drone guy is the one with self entitlement issues. He's been asked not to, but demands they let him anyway.
@@luke5837 He has a LEGAL entitlement if he flies over from a PUBLIC area. CAA make the rules for flyzones, not the business.
@@PJ-wm9nq which he could have done anyway without arguing the toss, instead of going onto EH property to cry about laws.
I would bet Sarah goes to either Palestine or Trans Rights protest at the weekend
Definitely a safe bet 😂
😂😂😂
tarquin and jemima getting discombobulated
@KeithBurtons😂
Is that after BREEDING ?
An informative statement at 10:42 "the wind is windy"
For some context carrion crows, which are common in the UK, typically weigh between 370g and 650g
A medium sized pigeon avgs approx 275 arms.
Very useful for picking up food left by NT visitors.
@@scruffyalice-ff5pzThat's a lot of arms! But only two wings...
The free plasticine vibes are strong with this one
From The Sausages to the peas
Kenilworth is god's waiting room.
She’s definitely glued herself to one or two motorways, that’s for sure 😂
Wot no blue hair 🙂
not sure what the genocide has to do with this, but fair enough
I have been watching your videos for a while now and I really appreciate all of the footwork you put in to do what you do. I live in the US and I had some vague ideas about the fact that these sites exist, but I never would have had a chance to see them if not for your effort. These NT folks being such daft, arrogant qunts in response to your lawful, logical behavior does make for an entertaining video, but it's a shame they behave the way they do. You go out of your way to try to remain respectful while you firmly stand on your rights and principles, it doesn't go unnoticed. Thank you
She has a badge for every type of current thing going! I'm impressed. 😂
Well if Alex says no, then it must be true, regardless of the CAA regs! 😂😂😂😂 Alex has allllll the answers 😂
I don't think Alex wanted to be involved 😂
Not had a Job since Tenko...
Absolutely brilliant manager. Polite, professional and informed. A rare jewel of a person.
She was lovely.
You weren't applying pressure, but you were applying 'reason'! & in your usual informal & polite way!!😊
I wonder how the people who built these places would have reacted if someone had told them a little remotely controlled drone would one day be able to fly over it and take pictures of it all.
...and cause so much damage to it!
Where you took off from is owned by a farmer. We had the authority to film (not with a drone just on the ground) on his land. The representatives from the castle came over and said we can't get the castle in the background. Not sure who these people think they are and what power they have.
lol. Look at the tree in the background when she says it's too windy. Oh okaaaaay.
Inclement weather can do more damage than a 249g drone
imagine the total devastation to a ruined castle wall a sub 249 gm drone would cause if it fell out of flight.
Hi DJE I watch your channel all the time not only are they unfriendly to drone flyers as I am severely disabled they don’t look very disabled friendly
There are lifts and ramps where it is possible to place them, and they've actually just redeveloped pathways in and around the site to make it more accessible. However it is a 900 year old ruin, there is only so much they can do.
Another gaggle of pretentious know it alls, who are clueless. Looking forward to it 🤣🤣
Brilliant. I was born just down the road from there.
Is that an Ann Widdecombe love child.
Staff that work at these places are nuts
Yo Dan how do you keep a straight face with all these confrontations you come across. I would literally crease up laughing on the spot & would have to leave immediately. 😂
If only building had eyes and ears the stories they could tell.
Amazing so much history. You do well to navigate the knobs trying to stop you doing this.
love the English Heritage visits. I am absolutely astounded by the arrogance of these people when they think that they are wright and you are wrong. just the smug looks on their faces. great when you knock it of. keep up the good work
Surprised to see so many negative comments here to be honest... They were trying to enforce their policy which is understandable, and when they realised their policy couldn't be legally enforced they backed down and tried to compromise. They weren't rude or aggressive and the manager handled the situation well... This was WAY better than the average National Trust site.
Fair point. Many people here like to vent their displaced anger on any perceived authority. Even DJE stated they'd been reasonable. But his audience is his audience.
The problem is they lose their mind because he stands firm 😂
11:40 it's like Yoko telling Julian he's not getting any inheritance or any of John's letters
Back to the National trust sites asap, please dje, more drama and legal experts galore. English heritage manager was too sensible😅😅😅
They must have all been on the same course. Total muppets
All woke 😂
Fe k me they shot arrows and cannon balls at castles and they didnt individually cause much damage ....
There is not a BREATH of wind . 😂
Ignorance to drone laws = Entertainment. Spot on DJE
These people can't seriously think they own and control air space- great video fella 👍
We like bossy posh totty 🙂.. well I do anyhoo
YEH i do love posh totty but oooohhh blooooody hell she needs to realise that she is not royalty YET.
We are not exactly talking Helena Bonham Carter here.
Fair play to them… they were wrong, but they were alright about it. I quite liked the boss lady actually. She had quite a nice energy about her. 👍
They are making stuff up so you won’t fly really annoys me
Great Vid DJE, I watch loads of you and DJ. I am a sales rep and I have driven past this place every 2 weeks for the last 25 years but never seen round the back. Great Video, keep them coming man :)
why aren't the national Trust sites not talking to each other and learning that all the drone pilots are providing is free advertising for the trust, let them enjoy there hobby
Their hobby
@@Trollspeil Thank you
Because it isn't a National Trust site.
Worse than the police
The absurdity that a little drone could possibly damage a medieval fortress that survived the English Civil War.
I remember learning at school about how Cromwell's army destroyed our castle with several hundred 249g drones in under 10 minutes.
Mate you need to do tintagel castle in Cornwall, that place is super hot on drones and English heritage too!
The previous drone caused a hell of a lot of damage by the Look of It.
A few points on this. 1) There's a point at which the air around land/property ownership becomes Airspace - clearly it can't be below roof height otherwise you would genuinely enter into enjoyment and utilisation of that land for your own activities 2) EH can have any policy they wish - even if it isn't legally enforceable 3) I'd love to see this tested in court. My suspicion is as long as you take off outside of their private land, maintain VLOS and fly above roof height at all times you're fine. You don't always do this though ;-)
I don't understand why people feel so confident in their convictions without ever seeing a shred of evidence to back their comments.
Because they are conditioned from birth to accept whatever somebody higher up says
She doesn't want to hear the buzzing noise. I guess when she hears a plane, she needs to inform the airport that planes need to fly higher.
Great stuff DJ I think it's much better seeing these places from the sky and it's always a bonus seeing the the fish take the bait 😂👍😆
I bet Henry VIII wished he had a DJI Mini when he attached Kenilworth Castle. All this chat about severe damage - would have been a conflict-defining weapon. Damn.
These entitled people actually think they have some sort of authority! It is hilarious!
Their management are clearly LYING to the staff that flying drones over their land or monuments is illegal .
They must be called out on this 😮
Well done is challenging them , these challenges will hopefully force them to be truthful and not lies to their staff and have their staff LIE to the public .
They need to take this up with the CAA and not make out flying is illegal when it's not , so if the CAA agree with them fair enough .
The staff were nice and polite if misinformed! The NT needs to urgently save its loyal staff from this continuing embarrassment.
It’s our policy!!!! Yeah right. The staff are very funny lol
Get the kettle on, we've got a half hour of pure unadulterated JOY !
If these people were polite and understanding of the law, DJE would be a great ambassador for these locations. This location is fantastic from the air. On my list to visit. Thank you, DJE.
These solid stone buildings are awfully fragile. It was a 249g drone that did all that damage to Rochester castles walls. 😂
Beautiful Beautiful NT audits .. what an abundance of virgin gold 🥇🥇🥇
5:50 😂😂😂 The Echo !!
Alex dealt with that so well. Hes a bit of a hunk too! 👀
Never mind the coffee shop, go to the pub after.
What is the app used for checking restrictions
Can that place get anymore damaged?
"if you can't take no for an answer" - is DEFINITELY a single child.
"Clearly that message isn't getting through..."
Could that possibly be because there's absolutely no way you can or ever will get it 'blacked' out on any chart. EVER!! 😂
A side benefit of these rather excellent shots would make me want to visit this place. Thanks for uploading!
Next NH, just tell them you're legally allowed to do it, and therefore you will: but that you're willing to negotiate how low you go provided they allow you to use it on their grounds.
If they refuse, fly it as low as you feel is safe.
Teach them a lesson please.
More hysteria prone neurotics who've found jobs they think will give them a satisfying combination of lack of stress and immense power.
They're wrong.
Brilliant DJE, I LOVE your discovery of a whole new range of weirdos who invent their own laws and become fantastically strange when you don't obey them.
Sick blurry video mate
Brilliant pictures!
Definitely do more castles.
The English Heritage is doing its staff no favours by insisting on enforcing their policy on drone flyers operating legally.
Its English Heritage .
WOW WHAT A VIDEO 😍 HISTORICAL THING BRILLIANT 🤩
It'll look incredible when finished.
Do they know that Google Earth shows live images from all angles of the property and pictures from inside the house. Historic monument or not?
this was fascinating because here in Australia we don't have castles like this.
As a Brit, they are amazing and you never fully get your head around how old they are. Like here at Kenilworth. You can walk under the exact same door ways as Elizabeth 1st did .
I normally only watch for the arguments... but this drone footage was also very interesting. Thank you 😊
They're so confident at the start 😂
Very nice drome footage DJ E media keep videos coming 👍🏻👍🏻
Badge girl reminds me of Joanna from Office Space. Do you think she is required to have a minimum amount of flair like Joanna was?
That was very cool. Great shots.
'but you'll damage the half demolished castle' 😂
Wonder how long it took to build that castle back in the day
such a lot of happy badges 😊
It’s a lovely castle inside & out… I filmed inside and outside with the drone too.
I won’t post a link but the video is on my channel if anyone wants to see inside.