That AH replica falls well short when placed side by side with a genuine item . True Germanic engraving skill, craftsmanship, style & quality shines like the sun in the real thing.
The scrollwork on the subject gun, though well designed and executed by a skilled engraver, was not done by a German or in the early post-WWII period. This style of scrollwork is clearly contemporary American work. Some of the tells are the overlapping and intertwining of the scrolls, the shading of the leaves, and the turnovers on the tips of many of the leaves. Also, the type of circle dot punching of the background is typically American work. Tom referred to the style of engraving as "floral" which would indicate flowers in the design. There are no flowers. This style is acanthus leaf scrollwork. Thanks to Tom for presenting this gun for our assessment. Regards, C. Roger Bleile, Official Historian, Firearms Engravers Guild of America
Thank you for your expert opinion and for taking the time to share this information. Someone made a lot of effort to "fool" the public, then then made some "rookie" mistakes.
My best friend's Dad was a Col in the 101st that raided Hitler's chalet at Bgarden and he had the gong Hirohito gave AH It was approx 12 inches round in size with the leather covered mallet. It was inscribed the emperor on the back side. Two Mauser shotguns one P08 pistol and one P38. The shotguns were a side by side and a std 12 gauge but both highly engraved but mostly hunting scenes. They had lots of WWII items including barrels of surgical equipment such as hemostats and scalpels etc. I was in my early teens when his Dad was explaining all this stuff.
I have a shotgun reported to have been taken from Berchsgarden by member of the 101st. Never got he name of the 101st soldier, but he sold it to an Army cook in Paris and he thought he was being shipped to Japan. Did your friends Dad perhaps sell a shotgun? This is actually a Krieghoff shotgun.
It could also be possible that it was made for him but he either never took notice of it or they didnt give it to him in time before the war got serious. the thing with hitler was he wasnt known to really be much into wearing such extravagant stuff. but i think you are right, most common explanation is usually the right one, and its way more likely that people just want to deceipt for their own benefit.
A nice Fake....But back in the 80's, I was at the Mohawk Arms Auction that sold the real AH PP and got a photo of me holding it ...I own a few Books from his Libary. And a nice Document making him a citizen of a town
Mark Felton Productions the video on Ava Brauns pistol. It covers Hitler's guns as well as the safe. He shows photos of the safe. It doesn't apply to be breached by explosives. Thanks for your comment
Thank you Tom! Always always informative. Maybe the purported AH hand gun was his everyday carry, just kidding. Most likely as you’ve said it was done after the war to deceive. The second weapon far outshines the first. Is there a way to track the s/n’s as to who they were issued to? Probably an obvious question, but I’m a nobody when it comes to historical provenance. Have a great week. Looking forward to the next installment.
Tom, I hope you're getting some range time at least once a month. I know you said it's a couple hour drive, but we only live once! Get out there and enjoy a couple of your shooter grade toys once in a while. It's good for the soul.
In some of Hitler's uniforms there are special pockets which allowed for the carry of pistols. He did conceal carry as noted by Linge in his book as well as others who were around him. He had a Walther Mod. 8 and either a PPK or PP for his own protection and even drew it once while riding around Obersalzberg when someone tried to attack him. None of the pistols Hitler actually carried were as ornate as the gold engraved ones and were gifts from the Walther company that surely became immediate safe queens as Hitler really didn't like gaudy items. When Hitler visited the front he can also be seen wearing a holstered Walther PP.
Almost makes me want to get my cousin's Gold Engraved one. He died in his late 90s. He wanted to mail it from his home in a place in South America. His oldest son asked if I could deal with his stuff to settle the estate Family would not want to deal with an exporter. Look at the big deal they made out of a collection of Nazi-Era Items in one country. Now that NYS is more like Nazi-era Germany coming this Sept. more than ever, I may travel more.
Mark Felton Productions has a video on Ava Brauns pistol. It also covers Hitler's pistol. It shows photos of the safes in Hitler's bunker. Those safes were not breached by explosives. Highly recommend this channel and above mentioned coverage. The actual pistol Hitler used to kill himself is supposed to be buried near a bridge. Thanks for sharing this video. Hope this information is worth looking into. God bless 🙏
A great "Buyer beware!" tutorial! Certainly, Hitler wasn't a "gun guy" like Goering was, but it's my understanding he did have a modest collection of presentation pieces given to him by German armsmakers. He was "Der Fuehrer" after all. And of course Hitler was familiar with firearms and knew how to use them even if he wasn't a sport shooter. I have seen one film clip of Hitler visiting the Polish front in 1939, and as he exits the JU-52 aircraft you can see he's wearing a pistol holster, presumeably one of his Walther PP's is in it. But that's the only photo evidence I've seen of Hitler carrying a weapon openly. By the way, I wouldn't want to own anything once owned by that monster. If others do that's fine, but not me.
I am aware this is an old comment, but could you link the source for the photo with the pistol holster visible? There's way too many photos to look through
@@pre-alphaman2625 It was from German Army footage (In color!) shot during the Polish Campaign. I saw it on a History Channel series called "Hitler's Bodyguards," a British-made series narrated by Robert Powell. Again, it's the only film or photographic evidence I've seen of Hitler wearing a sidearm which is why it stuck in my mind. "Hitler's Bodyguards" is a VERY well done series, well worth watching if you get the chance. So don't go crazy looking through old Hitler photos, you'll probably never find it.
National Museum of US Air Force has Speer's Walther on display for someone to compare. I am not aware of seeing it in a book or anything with a description. Not that it is not somewhere.
I believe I may be in possession of Hitler's canoe. I purchased it from a WW2 vet at a VFW hall . I believe the vets name was Cotton Hill. I'd like to try to get it authenticated.
I also prefer the pistol with more detailed engraving the one with the cracked ivory grips. Does anyone have any incline to where his actual pp pistol could be
I remember this story from back in the 70's. I was told that some unknown guy gave a golden gun. When Hitler saw it said, "What the hell is girlyman gun here?" Lol, "Here give it to the Fat girlyman, Herman." true. Hitler's, NO.
AH had always a gun for personal protection. He was not a gun nut like HG but had practical use for them. Actually he hated all the bling ,bling. He was using it for political goals but personally he did not liked it. Other than HG, he was all about it.
soooo....how did you get whomever owns it to let you borrow it and do the video? Or, did you simply buy it from the person? Don't leave us hanging here.....please.
Hitler was certainly gifted many guns but he was never seen carrying a gun and he didn't really need one. He probably did have one or more personal guns but they were probably quite mundane. If it was possible to prove provenance on any gun we'd know it by now.
Albert Speer mentioned in his book Hitler had been cleaning his pistol on a coffee table prior to his arrival. He must have been pretty familiar with his pistols.
While something that actually belonged to Adolph Hitler would be a valuable piece of history, I can't see anyone wanting anything to do with a replica. Wouldn't owning a known replica of something like that make it appear they you were a Nazi, and/or a follower of Adolph Hitler, one of the most evil men in human history? I can't even see a private collector owning the real thing. That is something that should be in a war museum, not owned by a private citizen. And yes I know, guns themselves are not evil. But something that belonged to or supposedly belonged to, or was a replica of something that belonged to Adolph Hitler would be a symbol of evil, and something I wouldn't want to touch. Now, I absolutely love the P.08 Luger pistol, and hope to someday own one. But I would prefer to have a civilian model. I just love the gun itself, not what many people think it represents.
That AH replica falls well short when placed side by side with a genuine item . True Germanic engraving skill, craftsmanship, style & quality shines like the sun in the real thing.
Exactly which means his shi is fake🤣😂💀
Thank you Tom. I always enjoy these historical and collectable gun videos.
The scrollwork on the subject gun, though well designed and executed by a skilled engraver, was not done by a German or in the early post-WWII period. This style of scrollwork is clearly contemporary American work. Some of the tells are the overlapping and intertwining of the scrolls, the shading of the leaves, and the turnovers on the tips of many of the leaves. Also, the type of circle dot punching of the background is typically American work. Tom referred to the style of engraving as "floral" which would indicate flowers in the design. There are no flowers. This style is acanthus leaf scrollwork. Thanks to Tom for presenting this gun for our assessment. Regards, C. Roger Bleile, Official Historian, Firearms Engravers Guild of America
Thank you for your expert opinion and for taking the time to share this information. Someone made a lot of effort to "fool" the public, then then made some "rookie" mistakes.
Always an outstanding video and presentation. Thank you for your hard work creating these informative videos.
Agree 100% with your closing statement. The "H.G." Walther is more finely detailed in the engraving than the "A.H." replica. Thank you for sharing...
Sometimes a PP is just a PP. 🤣
My best friend's Dad was a Col in the 101st that raided Hitler's chalet at Bgarden and he had the gong Hirohito gave AH It was approx 12 inches round in size with the leather covered mallet. It was inscribed the emperor on the back side.
Two Mauser shotguns one P08 pistol and one P38. The shotguns were a side by side and a std 12 gauge but both highly engraved but mostly hunting scenes.
They had lots of WWII items including barrels of surgical equipment such as hemostats and scalpels etc.
I was in my early teens when his Dad was explaining all this stuff.
I have a shotgun reported to have been taken from Berchsgarden by member of the 101st. Never got he name of the 101st soldier, but he sold it to an Army cook in Paris and he thought he was being shipped to Japan. Did your friends Dad perhaps sell a shotgun? This is actually a Krieghoff shotgun.
It could also be possible that it was made for him but he either never took notice of it or they didnt give it to him in time before the war got serious. the thing with hitler was he wasnt known to really be much into wearing such extravagant stuff. but i think you are right, most common explanation is usually the right one, and its way more likely that people just want to deceipt for their own benefit.
That's exactly, what I thought. I'm guessing, Hitler wouldn't like these squiggly surfaces anyway.
Lol. "Haff you seen mein pimp gun?" (flashes gat) "Keeps them harlots in line, ja?"
A nice Fake....But back in the 80's, I was at the Mohawk Arms Auction that sold the real AH PP and got a photo of me holding it ...I own a few Books from his Libary. And a nice Document making him a citizen of a town
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Let me know if you want to sell anything
Mark Felton Productions the video on Ava Brauns pistol. It covers Hitler's guns as well as the safe.
He shows photos of the safe. It doesn't apply to be breached by explosives.
Thanks for your comment
Thank you Tom! Always always informative. Maybe the purported AH hand gun was his everyday carry, just kidding. Most likely as you’ve said it was done after the war to deceive. The second weapon far outshines the first. Is there a way to track the s/n’s as to who they were issued to? Probably an obvious question, but I’m a nobody when it comes to historical provenance. Have a great week. Looking forward to the next installment.
When initials are intertwined, the dominant letter is the first letter of the surname, so in this case the initials would be G H.
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Tom, I hope you're getting some range time at least once a month. I know you said it's a couple hour drive, but we only live once! Get out there and enjoy a couple of your shooter grade toys once in a while. It's good for the soul.
In some of Hitler's uniforms there are special pockets which allowed for the carry of pistols. He did conceal carry as noted by Linge in his book as well as others who were around him. He had a Walther Mod. 8 and either a PPK or PP for his own protection and even drew it once while riding around Obersalzberg when someone tried to attack him. None of the pistols Hitler actually carried were as ornate as the gold engraved ones and were gifts from the Walther company that surely became immediate safe queens as Hitler really didn't like gaudy items. When Hitler visited the front he can also be seen wearing a holstered Walther PP.
True IF anybody got the PPK He used to commit "suicide" it was likely Linge.
Come on youtube. Why am I not allowed to see the reply to this comment?
Almost makes me want to get my cousin's Gold Engraved one. He died in his late 90s. He wanted to mail it from his home in a place in South America. His oldest son asked if I could deal with his stuff to settle the estate Family would not want to deal with an exporter. Look at the big deal they made out of a collection of Nazi-Era Items in one country. Now that NYS is more like Nazi-era Germany coming this Sept. more than ever, I may travel more.
Many years ago 20 at least I saw on Gunbroker a fancy Gold Engraved PP with Ivory Grips AH gold initials PURPORTED TO BE HITLERS PRESENTATION PP 7.65.
Last I checked, the original is in the Museum at West Point.
Off topic, just received a gift package / prize package of a Jigsaw puzzle and wanted to thank you guys so very much for it.
Thank you !!!
So where is the original gun at that did belong to Hitler?
What ever the HG may mean, I agree I like it much better than the AH
Probably Herman Goering !
Mark Felton Productions has a video on Ava Brauns pistol. It also covers Hitler's pistol. It shows photos of the safes in Hitler's bunker. Those safes were not breached by explosives.
Highly recommend this channel and above mentioned coverage.
The actual pistol Hitler used to kill himself is supposed to be buried near a bridge.
Thanks for sharing this video. Hope this information is worth looking into.
God bless 🙏
I have read that Hitler often had a Walther under his coat when out in public. Not meaning to contradict you, respectfully.
hahaha I lolled at "we're gonna be looking for Hitler's peepee"
He had a really little peepee. Maybe .25 caliber.
I’m curious if you will ever sell that real engraved one, I would like to buy that
A great "Buyer beware!" tutorial!
Certainly, Hitler wasn't a "gun guy" like Goering was, but it's my understanding he did have a modest collection of presentation pieces given to him by German armsmakers. He was "Der Fuehrer" after all. And of course Hitler was familiar with firearms and knew how to use them even if he wasn't a sport shooter.
I have seen one film clip of Hitler visiting the Polish front in 1939, and as he exits the JU-52 aircraft you can see he's wearing a pistol holster, presumeably one of his Walther PP's is in it. But that's the only photo evidence I've seen of Hitler carrying a weapon openly.
By the way, I wouldn't want to own anything once owned by that monster. If others do that's fine, but not me.
I am aware this is an old comment, but could you link the source for the photo with the pistol holster visible? There's way too many photos to look through
@@pre-alphaman2625 It was from German Army footage (In color!) shot during the Polish Campaign. I saw it on a History Channel series called "Hitler's Bodyguards," a British-made series narrated by Robert Powell. Again, it's the only film or photographic evidence I've seen of Hitler wearing a sidearm which is why it stuck in my mind.
"Hitler's Bodyguards" is a VERY well done series, well worth watching if you get the chance. So don't go crazy looking through old Hitler photos, you'll probably never find it.
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 Thank you very much, I'll be sure to give it a look
@@pre-alphaman2625 You're welcome! I enjoyed the series tremendously!
The box looks brand new
The Box is probably worth more than the pistol...😛
Clearly, that gun was made for Aldous Huxley or Alexander Haig or Angelica Huston or maybe Alexander Hamilton. And made by American Historical...
National Museum of US Air Force has Speer's Walther on display for someone to compare. I am not aware of seeing it in a book or anything with a description. Not that it is not somewhere.
I believe I may be in possession of Hitler's canoe. I purchased it from a WW2 vet at a VFW hall . I believe the vets name was Cotton Hill. I'd like to try to get it authenticated.
I also prefer the pistol with more detailed engraving the one with the cracked ivory grips.
Does anyone have any incline to where his actual pp pistol could be
The HG for sure!!!!
Nice. Wish someone would gift me such a treasure.
Only man I Know who has seen AH‘s peepee lol😂 great vid!
I mean, he's touching it lol.
I remember this story from back in the 70's. I was told that some unknown guy gave a golden gun. When Hitler saw it said, "What the hell is girlyman gun here?" Lol, "Here give it to the Fat girlyman, Herman." true. Hitler's, NO.
AH had always a gun for personal protection. He was not a gun nut like HG but had practical use for them.
Actually he hated all the bling ,bling. He was using it for political goals but personally he did not liked it.
Other than HG, he was all about it.
Nice fake and interesting but the real one even with most of the gold worn of is stunningly beutifull just love seeing them thanks 👍👍
Nice
I like more free stuff!
Too cool
My step mom Bobbie had one of these...
I would ccw this
I would buy it
I would prefer the standard issue one in the photo without the gold and engraving... I'm not into "bling"...
I didn't know that Adolf was a South American drug dealer.
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lol Thanks Tom........ Old Shoe🇺🇸
I’m sure the guns are clear but it’s stressing me out every time I looked down the barrels good history though
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soooo....how did you get whomever owns it to let you borrow it and do the video? Or, did you simply buy it from the person? Don't leave us hanging here.....please.
Hitler was certainly gifted many guns but he was never seen carrying a gun and he didn't really need one. He probably did have one or more personal guns but they were probably quite mundane. If it was possible to prove provenance on any gun we'd know it by now.
Albert Speer mentioned in his book Hitler had been cleaning his pistol on a coffee table prior to his arrival. He must have been pretty familiar with his pistols.
So 2 american grunts went up to rob the place.
As they should have!
@@skigdividerx4991 just don't complain when another country does it
Do U know for how much was sold violin that was on Titanic?
AH gun is never to be sold and that`s why it`s so easy to say they all are fake.
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Those grips really take away from the overall beauty of the fake. What dummy engraves a gun that beautifully and then throws crap grips on them? Nein!
I think it was one of Hitler's guns.
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Fake. It looks like it was made by the Franklin mint
Half of a gun today is plastic stuff.
can somebody say where is real hitler guns? that was really interesting🙂😉❤️🇱🇹
BASED or not BASED?
Based on the evidence,.....not based!
looks fake AF
looks fake Anne Frank
While something that actually belonged to Adolph Hitler would be a valuable piece of history, I can't see anyone wanting anything to do with a replica. Wouldn't owning a known replica of something like that make it appear they you were a Nazi, and/or a follower of Adolph Hitler, one of the most evil men in human history? I can't even see a private collector owning the real thing. That is something that should be in a war museum, not owned by a private citizen. And yes I know, guns themselves are not evil. But something that belonged to or supposedly belonged to, or was a replica of something that belonged to Adolph Hitler would be a symbol of evil, and something I wouldn't want to touch.
Now, I absolutely love the P.08 Luger pistol, and hope to someday own one. But I would prefer to have a civilian model. I just love the gun itself, not what many people think it represents.
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Ahhhhh FAKE ridicules
I have a REAL Adolf Hitler IPhone. It has a certificate of authenticy signed by Steve Jobbs himself. So it MUST be real😉😁
That was Annita Heads gun