Losing a Lounge Ceiling | How to handle the situation
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who else plasters all week then comes home and watches other people plastering on youtube lol, we must love it
I was just thinking the same. Every day's a school day. At the ripe old age of 50 I'm still learning. Today I experienced something that's never happened to me before. Covered a wall and it went off almost immediately. Managed to catch it though. First time I've finished a wall in 20 minutes.
@@neilross9867 at least you got an early day lol
I do , I love watching other plasterers videos
Was just saying the same thing to me mrs as she thinks I’m slightly weird for it as well 🙈
I was just thinking I have been hard at all day plastering then come home and the guy pop's up lol we do love it.
Love the positivity Kirk, lost a day and still smiling!
Cheers Kirk, your a smooth operator and some great advice there. Thanks and much appreciated.
Love the coolness when that ceiling picked up too fast. Great advice.
It's happened to me and I was definitely one of those headless chickens you were talking about. Will know for next time.
Great stuff Kirk.
Oh my God a new Kirk vid finally!! Hope you are much better pal.
I know what I’ll be watching the hell out of tonight at work!
What a brilliant video mate love your honesty and work ethic, indeed keep your cool even if things go wrong!
You don't always have everything under control, but experience is important and especially pass it on to the newcomers in the job
Good video as usual. Had this happen just a month ago to a kitchen ceiling two coats of unibond still pulled through. Had to 3 coat then third coat took ages to go off what a pain was nearly late to pub. Made my mind up after that all ceilings are to be overboarded.
Great video. This has happened to me a few times for different reasons on reskims and I have always found that leaving it and topping it with an extra 3rd tight coat works well I have ever really worked out why, you explained it very well
What a brilliant video mate love your honesty and work ethic I had a bad one in summer, a flat felt roof and red hot bedroom I think I put about 4 coats of sbr on
Love the advice you recently gave a chap on your Q&A video
He was asking you for advice on how to get faster at skimming and you simply replied " just slow down"
Brilliant! Love your calmness though you'd probably be a bit more stressed teaching young students at college lol.
Perfect advice mate.
I used to panic and trowel like mad.
All it does is give you tiger stripes and wears out your shoulders and stresses you out.
Fair play to you mate
Top video mate this happened to me last month. I was gonna panic but I’ve learned it dose not get you nowhere. And the job come out nice. Appreciate the video and advice. 🙏🏾👌🏾
Great video Kirk. Cool as a cucumber and always positive. Thank you.
i dont vn know how your channel came on my radar but i an very happy it did .....couple of my pals are top builders i would b lost with out them ......people like u are vital to th building game !!!!!
Easily the best and most accurate advice on how to deal with Plaster that's gone off too quick
Dont panic is the best advice you can give.
You know. It ain't going no where. .
Always a pleasure to watch mate, Love the clout nail tale 😅
This video dropped just in time. I took on my lounge ceiling today (Over Artex). Everything was prepped properly so was good to go. Got the first coat on and noticed the plaster was drying really fast and started to crack. Anyway after watching this video I kept my shit together and finished the 1st coat, Opened a a couple of windows to cool the room down and cracked the 2nd coat on. As I sit on the sofa totally knackered, it seems fine. So glad I kept my head - All down to watching this video last night LOL
Brilliant as always Kirk. 👍like to see you doing the rest of the job
Just finished it today mate but we didn't bother filming it because a don't just want to keep making the same video's of the same thing.
Don't want you guys getting bored of me
Just watched this vid as im a builder i do a lot of plastering myself and found the tip to be a good one as im sure all spreads have had this issue one time or another, Cheers for the vid and have subed to your channel
regarding spray bottles, save up household cleaning product bottles and reuse them. Much lighter and a better mist than a pump sprayer. I find the clean water from a bottle gives a nicer look to the finish. Great video 👍
Brilliant info 👍👍👍 Wish I’d known this two weeks ago when my plaster was going off like a rocket and I ran down to my shed in a panic to get my sponge 🤦♂️😆😆
The sponge float can pull u out of the quagmire in situations like this though it brings that top layer back up to life but then ur still up against the clock to smooth it in
Like an 18st ballerina on that hop up when ya polishing that ceiling
🤣🤣🤣
Brilliant mate ! I started as a chippy many years ago and collected trades along the way ! Plastering being my last city and guilds. One day perhaps over a pint I will go over the story but short version is I avoided it for a long time after getting caught out a few times being cocky. But after bitting the bullet and booking time off to do the course I got there ! Now the don't panic part was awesome as I always work like that stay calm and I think it comes from my first boss when doing carpentry he used to always say
" Haste makes waste!" Proper old school craftsman I was privileged to learn from him ! Any how I'm now about 16 years into plastering and a lot of what you explain I already know but would never be able to teach it or explain it, your a star mate keep it up !
Lovely reading comments like this
True that mate ,your only as good as who taught you😂
That's whT I have learnt .just chill and ur work will become better . Just stand back and have a think
I totally agree,with u nick,recommendations are key cowboy plastering companies would definitely rush and screw up job.
Nice to see you back captin hope all is good your end
The Clout nail story made me laugh Kirk.
We were on a Stately Home. Same senario, different gangs of spreads all having banter.
Then you'd hear shouting and screaming. Turned out our labourer was dropping Maltesers in the competitions mixes🤣🤣🤣. Made more enemies than friends on than job🤪
Hi Kirk if you keep some extra time in your van you can add some to your water bucket or spray bottle this helps bring the finish back to life
Good work mate
Hahaha did you make that up as you were commenting
Brilliant mate 👏 👌 👍🏻
Man, not a plasterer at all, but is a pleasure to watch you 👏👌💚
Great guy thanks for info.
I always panic and fiddle with it. But im a bricklayer that " does a bit" when my plasterer can't get there. Can't hold a candle to a decent plasterer. Good job mate.
I you do shave your beard kirk, make sure you recored your boys reaction... Mine was priceless he didn't know who I was 😂 top vid as always 👌
The first thing to remember when things don't go to plan is, don't panic. When you panic, things get even harder.
Nice good to show the good and the bad great video.
Great video mate
Great videos as always. Do you ever use flexi trowels or plastic trowels
Correct. If you don't let whatever primer set you get problems. I like to sponge then give last coat to act similar to a roughing key 😉
In Australia they use salt instead of half time. Im not sure what the ratio is but its very cost effective compared to sachets.
Get them safety glasses on while laying your ceiling on i dont recommend skim in your eyes its very painful 😂 . Great video though.👍
Sound this one Kirk really helped this if this happened on a wall ad of went to the sponge float little harder on a ceiling to use but ad of used it there I will be doing this now in future 😉🤝
So is it best to close the windows and doors if a breeze is going through and a hotter kinda day?
Great video. I am an amateur but I have already discovered that not panicking when plastering is so important. I have been surprised how things can turn around if you just stay calm and keep going 😀
well done mate .
Class act.
True tricks of the trade ❤
Better go back in a few weeks to check the ceiling hasn't dropped off and flattened the person who sleeps in the bedroom 😂😂😂
I was really quick when in my twentys. I came across a ceiling. 46 square metres. I was young and naive and thought yeah, no problem. I did it exhaustingly. I'll never do that again
As a spark that’s been a rewire and they drilled underneath the coving to save it, we get customers asking us not to damage it
Ahhh makes sense
This just happened to me today. I now have arms like popeye flattening it out. I wish I'd watched this first. Thanks pal.
Do you put your sbr on neat or do you water it down? If so what ratio? Thanks and great vids
Just use it neat mate
@@Onthetrowel thanks mate 👍 enjoying all the vids picking up some great tips
😅 nails in the mix was a savage move, Kirk 😂 👏
Kirk the ice cool cumber makes watching this a pleasure rather than a stress!! I’ve got a question, if you wouldn’t mind! Condensation/damp/mould in the top corners of interior plaster on 1970s ex council houses, is it a cold bridging fault, or a ventilation/circulation issue in your experience?
In my experience mate condensation forms on cold areas, condensation = moisture and moisture = mould and damp patches.
Ventilation and air circulation remove condensation so it's all of these factors together.
Just think of your bathroom when you have had a long hot shower on a winter night. The windows will be dripping and that's because they are the coldest areas. It's just the same principle but it takes longer to notice
@@Onthetrowel mate that’s why your top of your game! Simply explanation no trickery! Do you recommend additional ventilation in areas/cold corners of a 1960s build? I think we are past ripping down interior/exterior brick to kingspan and such to provide additional thermal insulation…perhaps forced ventilation via PIV or similar is required: odd because all the houses in our street suffer (staggered Terrance 1960s ex council houses)
@Mem Tea yes mate ventilation will help but do you know what the massive elephant in the room is?
Lime plaster, and limewash paint.
Ends all mould issues 🙂
The old ways are the best
@@Onthetrowel
Thanks mate, what’s your suggestion on that basis? Knock off all existing plaster and have lime plaster and lime wash paint done? Sorry for the noddy questions my understand as you can tell is very naive just trying to resolve a long lived issue!
Basically the same principle as going over artex??
Hi mate mint vid as per is that sbr better than pva
Proper the finish was more important than the money to ya that’s a conscientious worker for u fair play
Been doing it for 55 years I like to see where I am going wrong.
I wish the plasterer I worked for fave me as much information, perhaps too busy? Also using a plunger was a lot harder than an electric whisk☺️
Would you be able to liven the second coat up with a sponge and then flattened it in without giving it a 3rd coat ?
You possibly could mate, I personally don't like them because you are basically plastering with fat so it ends up being very dusty depending on what stage you catch the plaster at.
When I say dusty, I mean when the plaster is set because it's a weaker mix
@@Onthetrowel yes that makes perfect sense, thanks for the fast response 👍
Top Man 👊🏽👳🏽♂️
Finally got around to this Kirk as I've had a hell of a two weeks, working 6 nights, dogsitting a giant Alaskan Malamute too... never felt so tired in my life.
Anyway, thanks for finally pointing out that fat. So it's fine to move the plaster around on the wet trowel and push it all in, but any left on your trowel must go and if there's any hollows that haven't been filled at this point, you're buggered!
Surely u should. Have sealed it a bit better I've done ceiling after ceiling that we I'll probably fall of
You make it look so easy, I would be running around like. A headless chicken😂😂😂 I got two big ceiling to do both plaster boarded, any tip would be great, do I do it Half's??
Get some extra time sachets
Flatten first coat wait 15 minutes Flatten secondly mix fresh skim and second coat this buys you more time
Was always taught never let it beat you 😂
Never put 3 coats on. I have my own method. I see how fast the pva is pulling in. If it's fast then I'll put the 1st coat on thicker at about 2.5 mm, flatten off then stick my 2nd coat on straight away. A thick first coat buys you an extra 15-20 mins.
Each to their own 🤷♂️
I'm the same skills x
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If ceiling's too big we just put a join in it and do it in two halves
Couldn’t u av just let your first coat pull in like ur second coat n give it a nice 2nd coat?
Love the videos mate just wondering if you have ever plastered over asbestos boards and if you have any advice
Don't
@@gracebateman777 did it already mate and it was fine 👍🏻
nice and flat perfection
Sorry for the question on this old video. Do you remember the size of this room . 10x12 ?
It was roughly 5m x 5m mate
I learnt of Dave Williams mate use r the 2 top dogs from the port I hear
He is a good fella is dave.
Genuinely helped me out one time and I'll never forget it 👌
@@Onthetrowel yeah man hoping to get your level one day just on a day rate at the minute need to get on the big books soon
How much u charge to come to Colorado ?
Hey David, go to my channel description mate and send me an email 🙂👌
Hate it when skim starts fire cracking due to suction.
Why not use multifinish. Surley it's better on that surface than board finish.
I prefer board finish, it just sets quicker
Your dad must be brilliant.
Thsi happened to me, but I chose option A, run around like a headless chicken...
Yeh I've been their lol
is your labourer your son kirk , im a bricklayer m8 so new to channel , so forgive me if , youve said about your son before and what not ..... , mint channel 👊🏻👍🏻
No mate, kyran went to school with my eldest daughter and lives around the corner from me.
I've got 3 daughters and a 6 month old baby son
Hi Kurt, is there a page we can donate money mate? I always watch your videos 👍and I’d like to buy an extension lead for you, so you don’t have to borrow of your tv mate. Your better off with 110v if you’ve got a transformer mate, a transformer take the electric vaults from 240 to 110v, thanks for the excellent content btw buddy
That's very kind of you mate, thank you so much
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Don't panic! :)
Does your boy not fill your board and hand it up to you pay the boy a days wage to put on a few mixes
Thats a rewire, better than destroying the coving
As much as you don't want to you just need to mix another mix and lash it it on
Or sponge it 😂😂
Board finish on a re skim?? No wonder it went off like a rocket!
I use board finish for everything mate. If you ever think on read the back of a bag of board
You remind me of Brian Shaw
I dont advocate sponge floating , I think a spread worth his salt should be able to 2 coat and finish a gauge with 2 coats and 2 trowels to finish , but if my walls ceiling suck in like fuck I will give it a sponge. Easy peasy .
Haha yes
You win some you lose some.
Never ever ever give up... ever 😉
Day mare...
As in let it settle down before going at it again!
Yes mate you basically give it time to set a little
Love the clout nail story we use to put holes in there water buckets 🪣 so when they got in , in the morning all there buckets were empty 😂
Sbr kills suction??
Not as much when it's still tacky mate.
Why not wait till spr or bonder completely dry to spread mud sir ????
Sponge and done
Sound like Eddie Hall
Too*
Why don't you get the young lad on the trowel give him the opportunity of a life time giving him the chance to be a Tradesman and learn to plaster Especially with there being a Major shortage of tradesman in the country and save having to bring in the polish and others as there's no trades left
He's on the trowel most days mate
Too