Week 236 - MacArthur and Nimitz Go Head-to-Head - March 4, 1944

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  • @WorldWarTwo
    @WorldWarTwo  ปีที่แล้ว +803

    Indy here. Spartacus, James, Francis, and I just finished a D Day writing workshop in Austria. We- together with Markus- are writing that whole 24 hour series, which comes out June 6th. It's really coming along! The whole thing is now properly organized and the various threads are being written simultaneously so that when it comes out, it will very much be something that no one has ever done before. Really, the way we're doing it is a completely new thing. Nearly a third of the whole day- studio and on location stuff- has been filmed, and the first nine hours will all be in the can three weeks from now. Just thought you'd appreciate an update!

    • @robertjarman3703
      @robertjarman3703 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Always a correct observation in relation to a war: What the actual fuck is going on here!?

    • @alexamerling79
      @alexamerling79 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you for all you do!

    • @VindicAlpha
      @VindicAlpha ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I can't wait for D-Day! We always enjoy hearing about how the D-Day project/Operation Neptune is coming along!

    • @augustuswayne9676
      @augustuswayne9676 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks for the update

    • @caryblack5985
      @caryblack5985 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      As of March 1,1944 the Germans have had 1,581,407 deaths and approximately 4,500,000 wounded on the Eastern Front. In the month of March 1944 they will have an additional 93,660 deaths and approximately 300,000 wounded on the Eastern Front.

  • @jonathanmcalroy8640
    @jonathanmcalroy8640 ปีที่แล้ว +609

    Hearing Indy say "What the actual fuck?" made my day. Thank you!

    • @Blue-yn9qx
      @Blue-yn9qx ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I had to watch that a couple of times. I literally laughed out loud. no shit

    • @ahorsewithnoname773
      @ahorsewithnoname773 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I hope the G.I.'s favorite word will result in no demonetization.

    • @ZoSoPage1977
      @ZoSoPage1977 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I can't believe he said that word, it shocked me actually!

    • @hiturbine
      @hiturbine ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd prefer "WTF, Over?"

    • @chassuppanz9018
      @chassuppanz9018 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How common was the word “f--“ used in this era? My father used “What the Sam Hill…” frequently .He was a soldier by this time.

  • @d.watamate8231
    @d.watamate8231 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    In the many years of this channel, Indy Neidell accused me of being:
    - Adolf Hitler
    - Mao Zedong
    - Joseph Stalin
    And probably many more I am forgetting. I am denying these accusations

    • @bigwoody4704
      @bigwoody4704 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      You left out the Prince of Darkness or my sister in law

  • @frankunderbush
    @frankunderbush ปีที่แล้ว +324

    The timelines are kind of mind boggling when WW2 is told "in real time":
    1. We are a mere 3 months away from Overlord and the allies are still stuck at Cassino
    2. The Germans still occupy large swaths of Soviet territories, but just a little over a year from now the Red Army will be knocking on the doorsteps of Berlin
    3. Much of the Pacific has been liberated as quickly as they had been initially occupied - would be interesting to see how this series is presented from May-Aug 1945 after the fall of Germany

    • @ericcarlson3746
      @ericcarlson3746 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I did catch that these Soviet offensives were aimed at Brest (current Polanf- Belarus border + Curzon line, and Jassy / Iasi / Iași -which is in current Romania and well inside of 1919-1940 Romania

    • @Voigt151
      @Voigt151 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Sure some pacific islands have been occupied by the Americans now and with that they can threaten Japan much more, but also Japan still holds their main price, the Phillipines and ressource rich Indonesia. The pacific always was just a shield to protect those conquests, and similar to Germany, Japan still holds large parts of its war aims. And similar to Germany it will all crumble a year later.

    • @Chiller01
      @Chiller01 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      What are you? Clairvoyant or something?

    • @ethanmcfarland8240
      @ethanmcfarland8240 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Voigt151
      Surely the U.S. will never be able to recapture the Philippines in 1944…..
      Right….?

    • @elbeto191291
      @elbeto191291 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dude! Spoilers!

  • @MGood-ij1hi
    @MGood-ij1hi ปีที่แล้ว +573

    Admiral Nimitz kept a portrait of Douglas MacArthur in his office. When a subordinate asked him why he had that portrait in his office, knowing that the admiral despised MacArthur; Nimitz responded that he had it to remind himself what an asshole is, and to try not to be one himself.

    • @ahorsewithnoname773
      @ahorsewithnoname773 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      One more reason to like Nimitz.

    • @timwodzynski7234
      @timwodzynski7234 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Or to use it as a dart board 🎯😂

    • @pedrolopez8057
      @pedrolopez8057 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it didn't work

    • @ramal5708
      @ramal5708 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One of the reasons why Macarthur was such an a-hole back in the day, he's nothing more than overrated diva of military commander. That's why he was sacked from the Army and his dream of becoming a US president is in shambles, that's why a better US Army General of WWII became President in 1952, Ike, not the "Gaijin" Macarthur.

    • @roderickcampbell2105
      @roderickcampbell2105 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I keep a framed photo of Nimitz in my den for the same reason. Oops, to be clear, it's to remind me that MacArthur was an asshole. And as a tribute to Nimitz.

  • @Danish_raven
    @Danish_raven ปีที่แล้ว +266

    I can totally imagine McArthur saying "What the actual fuck?"

    • @aaroncabatingan5238
      @aaroncabatingan5238 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I don't blame him. The Admiralty Islands is not even in the direction that Nimitz wanted to use to get to Japan.

    • @mikepette4422
      @mikepette4422 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MacArthur never swore in his life. Everyone swears on this fact

    • @pax6833
      @pax6833 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@mikepette4422 Imagine never hearing a man swear, everyone you know who knows him telling you he doesn't swear, and then one day you hear him swear.
      That's when you know that man is pissed off beyond all reason.

    • @901Sherman
      @901Sherman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aaroncabatingan5238 Would've still been a very much needed naval base

  • @thomasbaker6757
    @thomasbaker6757 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Cant wait for the week by week series on the Hundred Years’ War

    • @Chiller01
      @Chiller01 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Now that’s job security!

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  ปีที่แล้ว +108

      Gonna have to wait a while longer, because we need to do the Thirty Years' War first, and then the Eighty Years' War, to make sure that the audience is ready.

    • @GymQuirk
      @GymQuirk ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@WorldWarTwo Warm up with The Hundred Days (Napoleon in 1815), then the Seven Years War.

    • @magnuspeacock5857
      @magnuspeacock5857 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@GymQuirk I'd love a series on the 7 year war, but a month by month might be the way to go there

    • @andrewklang809
      @andrewklang809 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I want a week by week series on the Six Day War.

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    For the week of October 20, 1944 please start off dressed as MacArthur with a pipe saying “I have returned” on the phone

    • @ethanmcfarland8240
      @ethanmcfarland8240 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      macarrthur dressed up as the terminator saying '''ill be back'''

    • @bigwoody4704
      @bigwoody4704 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the thing is things were well in hand they didn't need him back

    • @Dustz92
      @Dustz92 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why is Indy dressed as MacArthur? The world wonders

  • @mendozakoby
    @mendozakoby ปีที่แล้ว +68

    "That's modern war" really threw me back to the TGW days
    When I started watching that, I was in high school. Now I'm about to graduate college. I hope to be able to join the TGA with my first paycheck before the war ends.

    • @FoxWolfWorld
      @FoxWolfWorld ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’re about to graduate college and you’ve never received a paycheck before?

    • @fleurdetristesse5218
      @fleurdetristesse5218 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@FoxWolfWorld
      Well, plenty of people are like that.

    • @yggdrasil4986
      @yggdrasil4986 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FoxWolfWorldDepending on which country, culture and/or social background you’re from, it’s possible to have your parents pay for everything until you finish college/university. (Sorry for late reply to this, just rewatching some old episodes)

  • @davidwright7193
    @davidwright7193 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Apparently the BBC had to get Vera Lynn to record “Lilly Marlane” in English after the 8th army had heard it so often on Axis radio and liked it so much they started requesting it be played on British forces radio.

    • @Dustz92
      @Dustz92 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I had to get it in Spotify after hearing it so often in HoI4 radio so I can see why

  • @LukeVilent
    @LukeVilent ปีที่แล้ว +299

    About week ago, the village where my grandma-in-law spent the winter after her own was burnt in the Porkhov area near Pskov, North Russia, was liberated. This is the time when the area sees Soviet troops on the move.
    "I am alone in the izba" she recalls, "and here, at the entrance, stands a Soviet officer. I've already gotten used to Germans standing there, so it was a surprise at first"
    "Girl, why is it so dark here?" he asks.
    "We have no kerosine."
    "Ah, well, give me a bucket."
    "We have no bucket either..."
    He brought their own bucket of kerosine.
    A few days later, there was a knock at the window of the izba where she and other refugees lived. An officer asked for her father. It appeared that he was a husband of the elder sister. She went to the Leningrad area before the war, and married the guy. Since the family was divided by the frontline, it was the first time they've learned of the daughter's marriage.
    A few days later, the young husband was killed in action.
    Soviet troops were now pouring towards Pskov. One night, the overfilled izba was to house a platoon of troops. Those were Mongoloid young men from Central Asia. None spoke Russian. Each had a pack of dry porridge and they made the woman who cooked know that they want them prepared separately. She has shown them, that there's only one pot to cook, but that she will give each one an even portion when the porridge is done. So she did. A little girl, who never saw the world without the war, came to them with a little spoon, and each one of let her eat a spoon of their porridge. The villagers haven't had food like porridge for months now.
    The next day, the soldiers were off to Pskov. Hardly many of them survived.

    • @wojciechbalcerzak7395
      @wojciechbalcerzak7395 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I live for these kind of stories under this episodes. I'm gonna share my grandfather stories when the time comes, in about a year as the soviets will be pushing through pomerania.

    • @bludfyre
      @bludfyre ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@wojciechbalcerzak7395 Thank you for sharing when the time comes. These comments are some of the best parts of this series!

    • @markfryer9880
      @markfryer9880 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I wonder if the porridge was Lend Lease from the USA?

    • @LukeVilent
      @LukeVilent ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@markfryer9880 Thinking of which - they hardly weren't. Why would they be individually packed otherwise?

    • @LukeVilent
      @LukeVilent ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@wojciechbalcerzak7395 Please do. It is regrettable that I wasn't smart enough to talk more to my grandpa-in-law when he was still alive. He could've told more about the German presence in Latvia. Too many stories are unfortunately gone for good.

  • @julesjames593
    @julesjames593 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Hurrah for Admiral Tom Kinkaid! The bail out admiral. Bailed us out in the Aleutians. Bailed out Halsey at with Taffy 3. And this week he made McArthur look like a brilliant tactician! I had the privilege of visiting him at his apartment in Washington D.C. He told me to take what I wanted from an old trunk. I took his heavy woolen socks and long underwear from the Aleutians. That clothing still serves me today. Admiral Kinkaid deserves more applause from all of us.

    • @Franfran2424
      @Franfran2424 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he was a very good admiral.

    • @theoutlook55
      @theoutlook55 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nice! More stories please, if you have them.

    • @jacobdewey2053
      @jacobdewey2053 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And (breaking the timeline for a moment here) he also kicked ass in the Battle of Leyte Gulf in about 7 months time. Truly an impressive leader of men

    • @Wayne.J
      @Wayne.J ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not to diminish Kinkaid, but mainly MacArthur, the Australians had captured the Japanese Army books and code at Saidor back on 19th January (buried in a river bank). The Allies had not been able to crack the army codes yet so this was a great boom
      They sent it back to Brisbane dried out the books and then started to read the IJA messages round the South Pacific. MacArthur was informed of the size and dispositions of garrison on the islands around New Guinea. This included the Admiralty Islands.
      Hence, MacArthur could land the troops at the back of the islands instead of the bay where where the small garrison was dug in because of the deciphered codes. MacArthur got lucky when the garrison nearly pushed his recon in force unit back into sea, but ran out of troops. It makes him look great that he captured a strategic island with a limited force, but it was a near run thing. And once again, the Japanese suspect nothing with their codes being compromised.
      MacArthur also used this same Intel from Japanese Army codes to invade Biak in May and Morotai in September, hitting them where they weren't.
      Kinkaid was a good, level headed leader so his presence at Admiralty Island probably reassured MacArthur more than anything else. This was first SW Pacific invasion that needed Task Force 58 carriers and they needed to cover MacArthur flank (Marianas). Kinkaid could probably advise MacArthur of how that was going directly and reassure him of how good the US Navy was becoming.

    • @louiesalinas1140
      @louiesalinas1140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I served in the US Marine Corps with Admiral Ghormley Grandson, who is now a Major General.

  • @MrRobburdette
    @MrRobburdette ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "What the actual fuck?" "This is modern war". Amazing Indy. Thank you.

  • @Valdagast
    @Valdagast ปีที่แล้ว +300

    I would like to point out that I am not, in fact, Joseph Stalin.
    Edit: Next week's episode will be three hours long at this rate.

    • @macmedic892
      @macmedic892 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Are you from the future? Psychic? Puh-leeze!!!
      How do you know what’s going to happen next week?!

    • @fooo2241
      @fooo2241 ปีที่แล้ว

      don't tease

    • @marshalleubanks2454
      @marshalleubanks2454 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      But if you _were_ Joseph Stalin you might well lie about that fact, so we cannot be sure.

    • @rajeshkanungo6627
      @rajeshkanungo6627 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marshalleubanks2454 Are you going to test us with Iocane powder now?

    • @kirbyculp3449
      @kirbyculp3449 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joseph Stalin trusted no one, not even himself. So how can we trust you?

  • @maddiewadsworth4027
    @maddiewadsworth4027 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    I never knew that McArthur said "what the actual f*" over this issue 🤭 omg Indy you crack me up lol.

  • @rodchallis8031
    @rodchallis8031 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    6:44 Below Ground. While not at Anzio or Monte Casino, my Dad (Ist RCR) told me about how they always dug in during the Italian campaign, particularly if they had taken a German position. He said his entrenching tool was the most important thing he carried through Sicily and Italy. And it wasn't just German artillery and counter attacks-- on night they were bombed by the USAF, in a friendly fire incident. They were all dug in, and no one got a scratch even though the bombs landed all around.

  • @Significantpower
    @Significantpower ปีที่แล้ว +353

    A moment of silence for all of those who had to interact with MacArthur and his ego.

    • @moosemaimer
      @moosemaimer ปีที่แล้ว +63

      I saw an interview with his secretary, who used to sort his mail... he received a letter from his driver, addressed to "He Who Walks and Talks With God." The morale campaign intended to gloss over his loss of the Philippines was maybe a little too effective.

    • @markfryer9880
      @markfryer9880 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      As a contractor, I had to do some work at Victoria Barracks, St Kilda Road, Melbourne, Australia twenty something years ago. Within one of the buildings that runs parallel with St Kilda Road is an enclosed communication bridge that is sealed off, because "Mac Arthur walked across there!"
      I kid you not! 100% truth!
      Mark from Melbourne Australia

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      At least he had the nous not to beat the shell-shocked in front of witnesses... Unlike another general I could mention...

    • @Significantpower
      @Significantpower ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@stevekaczynski3793 True. I figure that of Patton had survived the war, he would have disgraced himself eventually like Mac did.

    • @rumrunner8019
      @rumrunner8019 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He was nothing like Eisenhower. I like that guy, and I have a feeling he might do something of note after the war.

  • @Wilkse1
    @Wilkse1 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have been waiting for this episode. My Grandad landed in Italy March 1944 with the British 4th Division , 2nd battalion in the Somerset light Infantry . He had been based before at Gibraltar and in the next few months he saw action for the first time and when the time comes I will share his story.

    • @pedrolopez8057
      @pedrolopez8057 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My dad deployed to Italy w/ the 88th infantry, 313 ENgineers.

  • @SHAd0Eheart
    @SHAd0Eheart ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hitler seems to think he has enough peanut butter to spread over any sized piece of bread.

  • @jliller
    @jliller ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Indy saying "what the actually fuck" was so unexpected I couldn't help but laugh.

  • @mymatemartin
    @mymatemartin ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is, by far, one of the very best history channels on TH-cam.

  • @BasedPeter
    @BasedPeter ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Indy swearing is a rare and beautiful gift

  • @alexAplst
    @alexAplst ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That's modern war! I loved your WW1 series really took me back there you guys are amazing

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's almost like this whole war is just a sequel!

  • @hebl47
    @hebl47 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:01 There you are, watching your favourite World War two channel and all of a sudden - You're Stalin! You didn't ask for this. You didn't choose this. Yet there it is.

  • @JenniferinIllinois
    @JenniferinIllinois ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Indy just hangs up on random callers. Two wars has really taken a toll on him. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @alexamerling79
    @alexamerling79 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    You forgot to mention Smiling Albert when you mentioned Kesselring. That's a surprise. Indy is usually so committed to emphasizing that :P

    • @pepethezhaba1820
      @pepethezhaba1820 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I actually wondered for a long time, why the hell albert kesselring is "smiling"?

    • @grovehoLP
      @grovehoLP ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pepethezhaba1820 he was known for smiling a lot

    • @alexamerling79
      @alexamerling79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Retired Bore lol True

    • @markfryer9880
      @markfryer9880 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pepethezhaba1820 He had a big mouthful of teeth!

    • @aa2339
      @aa2339 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Atkinson wrote of a 'decapitation strike on his HQ by B17s', which killed most of his staff and where he had to dig himself out of the rubble, "wiped out that smile."😁

  • @JagerLange
    @JagerLange ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "I have an idea for a suicide unit to turn the balance of the war."
    "Germany is not desperate enough to need such sacrifice.... BUUUUT when can you start?"

  • @reddeaddude2187
    @reddeaddude2187 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Exactly thirty years after March 3rd, 1944 my wonderful Uncle is born. Who like his grandfather before him, joins the US Marines and is stationed in the Pacific. Unlike my great grandfather however, my Uncle's service was voluntary.

  • @toastnjam7384
    @toastnjam7384 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    06:55 Those dugouts reminds me of a Bill Mauldin Willie and Joe cartoon during the Italian campaign where they are making a dugout using spent artillery shells and asking the artillerymen to fire a few more rounds so they complete it.

  • @ramal5708
    @ramal5708 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how Halsey is the middle guy in this whole Nimitz-MacArthur grudge, Halsey is in charge of Naval South Pacific Command (Macarthur's area of command) and also Nimitz's close friend, Halsey probably tried to mediate the problem by taking the Admiralties so both couldn't claim the islands for themselves, Halsey worked with both Nimitz and Macarthur during his naval career, first in command of South Pacific Command(Macarthur's area of operation in 1943-44) and then later in Fall of 1944 in command of 3rd Fleet, which under supervision of Nimitz. Hall

  • @nickmacarius3012
    @nickmacarius3012 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    *Hitler:* "There's absolutely no way the Soviets will push us back!"
    *Stalin:* "Hold my hammer & my sickle, Comrade."

    • @brentondudley3925
      @brentondudley3925 ปีที่แล้ว

      We should've fought the commies on the day after VE day. Fuck communism

    • @nigeh5326
      @nigeh5326 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You forgot the next line
      Hitler on hearing of the Soviet offensive.
      ‘What the actual fuck’
      😃

    • @onylra6265
      @onylra6265 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since Kursk Hitler has been actively denuding the Easter front and surrendering ground to fight in Italy and defend France. Goebbels' propaganda has already shifted to a seige mentality.
      I know you're being flip, but it's not historical. They know they're in deep shit and fighting for survival. Hitler is prepared to give ground in the east, he's still lucid and rational.

    • @balabanasireti
      @balabanasireti ปีที่แล้ว

      Boooring and dead joke

  • @NightStalkerSoC
    @NightStalkerSoC ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I hope on the week from the 19th to 25th of August 1944, you'll finish the opening with "You are Charles de Gaulle". I count on you Indy!!

  • @shane41225
    @shane41225 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This channel is absolutely a masterpiece! Giving the day by day week by week of ww2 and the commentary by indie is awesome.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  ปีที่แล้ว

      @Shane W
      Thank you! You’re a masterpiece! ❤️

  • @agactual2
    @agactual2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I didn't realize how close we are to D Day until this episode. Just 12 weeks

  • @kiancuratolo903
    @kiancuratolo903 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hearing Indy say what the actual fuck made me irrationally happy

  • @williamli0722
    @williamli0722 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how Indy just casually curses quoting MacArthur.

  • @bman6065
    @bman6065 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That intro, "YOU, ARE JOSEPH STALIN". 🤣

  • @chrishoskins9189
    @chrishoskins9189 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your narration is the reason I watch

  • @warhorse03826
    @warhorse03826 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    "don't test me Nimitz I've burned down camps of homeless veterans to get where I am, don't think I won't do the same to you!" macarthur, probably.

    • @901Sherman
      @901Sherman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely sounds like something ol’ Mac would say

  • @quentinharoche9564
    @quentinharoche9564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I finally did it ! I started this serie two moths ago, watching episode after episode and I finally catch you. Next Saturday I will watch an episode live for the first time

  • @majormoolah5056
    @majormoolah5056 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    You could make a truly horrifying soap opera about the inner workings of the Axis alliance. Never has there been an alliance with so much mutual doubt, undermining, greed and general treachery... and crimes against humanity.

    • @onylra6265
      @onylra6265 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It doesn't really count as an alliance - their national chauvinist ideologies precluded true cooperation.
      Italy'sambitions in Africa and the Balkans were a possibly fatal distraction, , Japanese ambitions for a Pacific empire were disastrous - if they'd collaborated in Barbarossa the USSR almost certainly goes down. And hell, if they hadn't directly attacked the US it's questionable if they'd get directly involved in the war at all.
      So you're right, their choice of 'friends' was terminal. There's probably a moral to this somewhere ... like, don't be a mob of self interested fascist scumbags.

    • @wh8787
      @wh8787 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's always sunny in the third Reich

    • @martygeorgescu4159
      @martygeorgescu4159 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hitler NEVER trusted the Japanese !!!

    • @Steveross2851
      @Steveross2851 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@onylra6265here you make a great observation especially inasmuch as Hitler and Stalin were "allies" in 1940. When Hitler triumphed in France Stalin gritted his teeth and sent his congratulations but sensed Hitler would attack him later though in his view not before England were defeated.

    • @heiskanbuscadordelaverdad8709
      @heiskanbuscadordelaverdad8709 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It already exist is called hetalia axis powers

  • @josephhyland8904
    @josephhyland8904 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The late Bill Mauldin, in his classic book "Up Front," had a drawing with his two archetypal GIs, Willie and Joe, looking down at the beach after the battle. The comment went something like, "My God, here they was and there we were."

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm glad Indy pointed out that here at Anzio the entire sector is "the front line" and all of it is within German artillery range. It really was hell for all the Allies there.
      - T.J.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A British soldier whose unit captured a stretch of the German lines on July 1, 1916 (the beginning of the Somme battle) later recalled looking back at his own front line trenches from there and was shocked at how much of the British positions had been under observation - the Germans had been dug in on a slight ridge that gave them a good view.

  • @gaussagain
    @gaussagain ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Has Indy ever sworn 'on air' before? (3:04). The war is taking its toll on him!

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well, when he starts hitting shell-shocked Time Ghost recruits in front of witnesses, it will really be time for him to take a rest... :)

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nimitz: Can I build an airfield on this island?
    Douglas MacArthur: *Triggered*
    Narrator: it will only get worse with MacArthur in the years to come

  • @lessonslearned2569
    @lessonslearned2569 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "What the actual fuck!" Douglass McArthur, March 4, 1944.

  • @austinxolin666
    @austinxolin666 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Been watching since 2014 and have never heard Indy swear . lol love you guys.

    • @markfryer9880
      @markfryer9880 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that it might be a first?

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He did once wear a singlet during the Great War and showed his tattoos. I was not the only one out there who was traumatised...

  • @mariusionita266
    @mariusionita266 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    16:01
    The Japanese ambassadors in Berlin: 'Write that down! Write that down!'

  • @ak9989
    @ak9989 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My uncle fought at Anzio 45th Infantry division. From Sicily to Germany. My dad fought on Guam and Okinawa. His cousin MIA 1944 B24 pacific. And older brother kia 44 Belgium.

    • @bwarre2884
      @bwarre2884 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is a lot of suffering for one family. I hope they found peace. They fought for our freedom and civilization. Greetings and respect from the Netherlands.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for sharing your family story.

  • @tobybartels8426
    @tobybartels8426 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Leap Day puts the weeks back in sync starting with March 1, which is a Wednesday in both years.

  • @stevekaczynski3793
    @stevekaczynski3793 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:05 - it looks like a T-26, obsolete by 1944 but still used. Soviet troops often rode into battle on tanks and there were even special "tank rider" battalions. Exposed to enemy fire, they took heavy losses but the method allowed infantry to accompany tanks. Armoured personnel carriers were not developed until after WW2 by the Soviet Union, and as late as the T-62 tank, handles were built into the turrets of Soviet tanks to allow infantry to hold on while riding the tank.

    • @Conn30Mtenor
      @Conn30Mtenor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There were already halftracks which served as battle taxis. The design of the modern APC did come after WW2 but it was already there.

    • @Raskolnikov70
      @Raskolnikov70 ปีที่แล้ว

      Armies of the day didn't throw anything away if it still ran. IIRC the Wehrmacht was still using Panzer IIs for recon during Fall Blau, and there are still some M3 Lend-Lease tanks kicking around in Soviet and British units.

    • @Alex-og3ev
      @Alex-og3ev ปีที่แล้ว

      In Europe, T-26 tanks didn't survive to 1943 even, except for tiny numbers on idle fronts in the north. In the Far East though, they were kept operational and used as late as August 1945 in landings against Japan.

  • @Spiderfisch
    @Spiderfisch ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Macarthur threatens to resign if things dont go his way
    Where is the catch?

    • @aa2339
      @aa2339 ปีที่แล้ว

      Until Trumann fires him, in another war.

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hearing Indy cuss was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

  • @grantjohnstone9787
    @grantjohnstone9787 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to work with Siegfried Westphal's grandson, also named Siegfried (Ziggy) for short. A very nice man, can't speak for his grandfather.

  • @jamescassady4629
    @jamescassady4629 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Indy: “YOU ARE JOSEF STALIN”
    Me: “oh jeeze”

  • @Arashmickey
    @Arashmickey ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Nimitz hated McArthur because he kept calling him over 4 phone lines at the same time, and the pipe made him sound like Peanut's parents. He was a real pain in the rudder.

  • @naveenraj2008eee
    @naveenraj2008eee ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi Indy
    Another wonderful week.
    Lots of action.
    Thanks.

  • @NV..V
    @NV..V ปีที่แล้ว

    I do not think I have heard the F Bomb here before....until today. Well done...kudos.

  • @jacobfitzsimmons3192
    @jacobfitzsimmons3192 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving the swearing. Makes history more authentic

  • @Giveme1goodreason
    @Giveme1goodreason ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:01
    For years we’ve have the left leaning twitter meme of Indy declaring that “you are Adolf Hitler”
    Today we got the right leaning meme of Indy declaring that “you are Joseph Stalin.”
    What a time to be alive. Especially when I’m over here being “Winston Churchill”

  • @stevegnash1
    @stevegnash1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I now can see why Joseph Heller set “Catch-22” during the Italian campaign.

  • @stevekaczynski3793
    @stevekaczynski3793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:30 - MacArthur using his pipe stem to point to the map. Because a pointer or a pencil are just not classy enough...

  • @fennickal4957
    @fennickal4957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never thought i would hear Indy swear in one of these episodes. Caught me off guard for a second.

  • @truenewsben1904
    @truenewsben1904 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This intro was the best yet,

  • @Ashadow700
    @Ashadow700 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:12
    "The terminator theme, but it is Indy Neidell saying wait" ^_^

  • @SpartacusColo
    @SpartacusColo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:20 - Looks like a Schmeisser MK36, but the magazine is a bit farther rear than what I can tell. Perhaps a variant of the same rifle though. That could be some rare footage of an unusual rifle. We might need Ian McCollum to chime in on this one?

    • @keithlaycock9059
      @keithlaycock9059 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a Danuvia 39.M submachine gun, designed by the Hungarian engineer Pál Király.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keithlaycock9059 It was considered to be a good weapon though a little on the heavy side.

    • @SpartacusColo
      @SpartacusColo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keithlaycock9059 Nice, thank you! Yes, that's it! Never seen one before.

  • @johnfleet235
    @johnfleet235 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The more I look into the WW2 in the Pacific, the more I realize that Nimitz has his fingerprints everywhere. MacArthur had his moments, but MacArthur had not been to US since 1935. He was located in Australia, far from Washington and London. Nimitz had some rough spots during the first months of WW2 with Admiral King, but they eventually worked together as effective team. Nimitz and King met regularly usually in San Francisco. I believe MacArthur and General Marshall met once and their relationship was strained. Nimitz protected and kept the supply lines open to Australia. MacArthur could not have returned to the Philippines without the Big Blue fleet.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  ปีที่แล้ว

      @John Fleet thanks for that added perspective!

  • @scottjuhnke6825
    @scottjuhnke6825 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Indy, that tie makes up for stripes, and plaids. LOL

  • @porksterbob
    @porksterbob ปีที่แล้ว +92

    After a strong start last week, we once again go dark on the Burma front.
    Merrill's Marauders male a long flanking advance to take up blocking positions behind and to the south of the Japanese 18th division.
    The plan is for them to hold here and prevent the retreat of the Japanese who are facing the much more numerous main Chinese thrust from the north.
    The Japanese, for their part, do not accede to the allied plan.
    They turn the bulk of their firepower towards the south and immediately hit Merrill's marauders with everything while leaving only a small defense in the north to slow the Chinese.
    The Chinese, while they have been equipped, supplied, and trained to western standards, are still hesitant to attack quickly against Japanese positions.
    Merrill's marauders, despite being trained and designed as a light deep penetration force are now fighting a conventional set piece infantry battle against experienced Japanese troops.

    • @peterjerman7549
      @peterjerman7549 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      bro thinks he's the narrator

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      And this is why Burma, like the Aleutians, remains the forgotten front. After D-Day, Italy will join this sad group.

    • @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
      @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Paladin1873 There is just not much going on in Burma until the Imphal and Kohima battles and the subsequent invasion of Burma by 14th Army starts. Nothing is going on in the Aleutians, a lot more is going on in Russia then gets reported and the biggest front that gets completely ignored is China.

    • @Paladin1873
      @Paladin1873 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 In scale that is true, but few remember we were launching harassing bomber raids from the Aleutians against the northern Kurils and tying down Japanese forces that might be sent elsewhere. We also began carrying out successful submarine operations in these waters. For an excellent account of these operations I recommend reading Admiral Fluckey's "Thunder Below". Meanwhile, the Burma campaign was tying down many Japanese forces in frequent small unit raids and occasional larger set piece battles. Several books on Merrill's Marauders and the Chindits exist. One I can highly recommend is John Masters' "The Road Past Mandalay". As for China, I agree there also has been insufficient coverage.

    • @onylra6265
      @onylra6265 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Japan is almost entirely strategically inert at this point in the war - a lot of what was happening in Burma and elsewhere was of no meaningful consequence. There's a lot going in '44 and the team can't cover everything, and frankly in historical terms a lot of things remain to this day quite obscure in the west.
      A big reason why is contemporary politics and ideologies - China and Russia aren't liberal societies and have some misgivings about being truthful. Japan is still largely in denial of its past. You'd hope it wasn't so, but it is.

  • @danicalifornia505
    @danicalifornia505 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Indy and team, how many troops have been mobilized by the various powers at this time of the war? I ask because looking at the USSR’s amount of armies and am blown away at their mobilization. 5:59

    • @watcherzero5256
      @watcherzero5256 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      1943 manpower mobilisation: Armed forces; Germany 23.4%, UK 22.3%, USSR 23.0%, USA 16.4%.
      1943 manpower mobilisation: Military-Industrial; Germany 19.0%, UK 23.0%, USSR 31.0%, USA 19.0%
      Total (Armed forces+Industrial) increased mobilisation between 1941 and 1943: Germany 19.3%, UK 26.7%, USSR 40%, USA 19.3%.
      Source: Resource mobilization for World War II: the U.S.A., U.K., U.S.S.R., and Germany, 1938-1945, Mark Harrison, 1988.

    • @watcherzero5256
      @watcherzero5256 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As a note during the first couple years of the war Germany was getting economically stronger as it absorbed other countries and plundered their resources, after 1943 this breaks down as they are in territorial reverse. The allies reached peak mobilisation in 1944 and were already cutting back before the war ended (some cutbacks in production already started in 1943 as they recognised they wouldnt be completed/required before the war ended), the Soviet Union was also cutting manpower in the armed forces near the end however it was still increasing manpower in its military-industry in 1945.

    • @Sizt
      @Sizt ปีที่แล้ว

      How many people were mobilized during the Second World War
      th-cam.com/video/6N75zTJ2aOU/w-d-xo.html

    • @Chiller01
      @Chiller01 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@watcherzero5256 So in the first two categories; are those percentages of the entire population of each country?

    • @watcherzero5256
      @watcherzero5256 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Chiller01 Percentage of entire working age population of both genders. Funnily enough pre-war Germany had a higher proportion of women in the workforce than the UK reached during the war (36% Germany 1939 to 33% UK 1943), they tended to just work short hours but that proportion in Germany never meaningfully rose during the war (in absolute terms the number increased 250,000) while in the UK it increased by 2.2m during the war as more women who didnt previously hold jobs got employment in the sectors vacated by enlisted men.

  • @onylra6265
    @onylra6265 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My grandfather was a tanker in the NZ Division, by his account the decision to bomb Cassino town doomed the assault before it even started.
    They used delayed fuses which created enormous craters which made the roads unnavigable to the tanks.

    • @onylra6265
      @onylra6265 ปีที่แล้ว

      They had to bring up bulldozers to try and fill the craters, while being attacked by the defenders and it became a farce. The smbitions and delusions of the air chiefs cost a lot of lives.

  • @bronzeageancientone4844
    @bronzeageancientone4844 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an excellent historical channel. Thank you.

  • @jeremymcguire7069
    @jeremymcguire7069 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    MacArthur's strategy was to attack where the enemy expects, and just when he expects it again, do it again! His tactics were more intricate and subtle, being developed by his executive staff members: Lee, Roy, and Jenkins.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His intelligence chief, Charles Willoughby (incidentally born in Germany) was a charlatan but he told MacArthur what he wanted to hear.

  • @annehersey9895
    @annehersey9895 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mark Felton Productions has a great short video on the Suicide Planes and their development and use. Very interesting.

  • @AlbanianDogma
    @AlbanianDogma ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I feel like the 2nd Polish Corp at Monte Casino are going to be BEARing quite a bit of action.

    • @markfryer9880
      @markfryer9880 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey that's a Dad Joke, careful son!

  • @FoxWolfWorld
    @FoxWolfWorld ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mark Felton viewers knew who Axis Sally was and why there were two of them

  • @jrsimpkin
    @jrsimpkin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “That’s modern war”
    He said it!!!

  • @noahswanigan9350
    @noahswanigan9350 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:05 was pure gold ... Indy should throw in more stuff like that impromptu and totally out of the blue -- It's inevitably hilarious coming from someone who's commentary/delivery always comes across as so classy and well mannered. To this I say -- What the actual fuck, TH-cam? How dare you so flatly and blatantly discourage such things by way of disproportionately severe consequences? Foch You...(Tube)!!!

  • @SHAd0Eheart
    @SHAd0Eheart 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Curious why one of the two Axis Sallies didn’t go with Axis Annie or Amy Axis or Third riech Rita or Nazzy Nancy?… do I need to go on? There were viable options!

  • @erikdarling1
    @erikdarling1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New video for my birthday, thank you

  • @luispt77
    @luispt77 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can't believe we are just 3 months away from D-Day.

    • @ahorsewithnoname773
      @ahorsewithnoname773 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also three months out from Operation Bagration & the Battle of Saipan, sometimes referred to as the Pacific D-Day. June & July are going to be very busy months for Indy & co.

  • @mariosvourliotakis
    @mariosvourliotakis ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kesserling thinking the war will end before the year's end is very interesting. I wonder how much he knew and was informed about the Eastern Front catastrophes and the disasters to come...

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 ปีที่แล้ว

      SPOILER
      His guess will turn out to be a little on the pessimistic side but not by much. Saying so was however potentially "defeatism" and increasingly in 1944 and 1945, people will be executed for it.

    • @mariosvourliotakis
      @mariosvourliotakis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevekaczynski3793 Yeah defeatism was not tolerated by Hitler.

  • @gunman47
    @gunman47 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    A side note this week on March 1 1944 is that United States fighter ace Lieutenant Charles F. Gumm, with seven confirmed victories, will be killed in a tragic accident when the engine of his P- 51B Mustang fighter failed during take-off in Essex in the United Kingdom. He could have chosen to bail out but decided to stay in the cockpit so as to glide his aircraft towards open ground and avoid endangering innocent lives in the little village of Nayland. His body would eventually be found by local villagers near the burning wreckage.

  • @Ronald98
    @Ronald98 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time hearing Indy say "F*ck" 🤣🤣

  • @johnmccnj
    @johnmccnj ปีที่แล้ว

    When introducing Thomas Kincaid at 1:49, I thought Indy was talking about Thomas *Kinkade*, and boy was I confused for a minute or two.

  • @sopwithsnoopy8779
    @sopwithsnoopy8779 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:38 Wheels within wheels, in a spiral array, a pattern so grand and complex?

    • @BOSS429MJ
      @BOSS429MJ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the causes can't see their effects

    • @sandman8539
      @sandman8539 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Time after time we lose sight of the way
      Our causes can't see their effects"....

  • @killerbees177
    @killerbees177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to know people back then talked like us in today's time😂

  • @SATMathReview1234
    @SATMathReview1234 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Really can’t see any motivation for MacArthur other than his own ego.
    Sad to think how much sooner the war in the Pacific could have been if the US followed the Navy’s plan.

    • @Mondo762
      @Mondo762 ปีที่แล้ว

      MacArthur would know best how to deploy his troops. I don't see how the Navy running his sector would be an improvement. The Navy already had it's own sector to manage. You need to explain your logic.

    • @redaug4212
      @redaug4212 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably not. The Navy's plan, at this point in the war, of invading Formosa would have set the timetable for operations in the Pacific theater back by months due to the immense logistical demands of preparing such a large-scale invasion. And the alternative plan of directly striking Okinawa hadn't been conceived yet.

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MacArthur is the only reason why the Philippines remains pro-American. If that plan went through, you'd see a Philippines that might be amenable to Commienism and/or anti-Americanism...

  • @alansewell7810
    @alansewell7810 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I fully understand that employment in this capacity [suicide bomber] will entail my own death." No need to worry about severance pay when that gig is up.

    • @stevekaczynski3793
      @stevekaczynski3793 ปีที่แล้ว

      Next up - applying to be the Sacrifice on Summerisle, The Wicker Man, 1973...

  • @guyh9992
    @guyh9992 ปีที่แล้ว

    Manus became the main base for the invasion of the Philippines and later the forward base for the British Pacific Fleet. It was a Royal Australian Navy base until PNG independence in 1975.
    It has been upgraded recently for use by the RAN and USN due to the current geopolitical situation.

  • @jsma9999
    @jsma9999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well MacArthur and Nimitz Go Head-to-Head Hope Thomas Blamey was in room ( Thomas Blamey was Aussie General) Dam it's in Washington.

  • @timcoffey1169
    @timcoffey1169 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the Phone Gage at the start

  • @joezephyr
    @joezephyr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Especially good video thank you Indy.

  • @JagerLange
    @JagerLange ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So not only are there multiple Axis Sallies, and an eight-day week, but I'm also Stalin?!! This'll be a long weekend.

  • @kidmohair8151
    @kidmohair8151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see Anzio is going as well as the Dardenelles went 29 years earlier...
    oh that old naval meddler Churchill

  • @ak9989
    @ak9989 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I got into ww2 in 1973 at 8 years old. After 23 years US Army we would even discuss battle during battalion and Brigade meetings. Still fascinating.

    • @Raskolnikov70
      @Raskolnikov70 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was in the US Army around the time the 50th anniversary of WWII rolled around (early to mid 90's) and it was a huge deal then as well. Even though the USSR had just collapsed, the Gulf War had just happened and the Army was still geared towards those huge armor battles (but with attack helicopters this time instead of fixed-wing CAS). There were still plenty of lessons to be learned from stuff that our grandparents did.

  • @lttacos2092
    @lttacos2092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did anybody else play the computer game Battlefield 1943 road to Rome? The Assault on Monte cassino Mission or map however you play the game was hands down one of the hardest ones to do.

  • @jaimebarr8426
    @jaimebarr8426 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The opening phone bits are getting funnier as the war progresses. Was it an homage to Abbot and Costello?

  • @amner
    @amner ปีที่แล้ว

    hahah that intro with all the phones had me rolling (And oof getting closer and closer to D-day!!)

  • @jeanineking7311
    @jeanineking7311 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for uploading and all the excellant detail

  • @annehersey9895
    @annehersey9895 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You might want to check out on TH-cam there is I think a 4 hour or longer CBS Radio special that started right when the US media got wind that the invasion was happening. It started around 3-4 am and was interesting when news came in and who and where it was coming from. You can tell the surprise in the announcers voice. It is really interesting and might be a good snippet to put in when talking about how the world learned it was happening.

    • @WorldWarTwo
      @WorldWarTwo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This sounds super interesting, Anne! Any chance you could post the link for me? I dunno whether the team will use it or not, but I'd love to listen to it myself!
      - T.J.

    • @annehersey9895
      @annehersey9895 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WorldWarTwo -TJ-As a boomer dinosaur, I don't know how to do that BUT, I went to D-Day CBS radio broadcast in the TH-cam search and the best one I found was: D Day - Broadcast Part 1 - 0250 AM. There are others from other networks but this one starts at 2:50 am and the others I saw didn't start for at least another 1/2 to an hour later. What is really interesting is that this one got their information that the invasion had started from the Germans NOT the British or US! Good luck and yes, if you don't use any, it is still fun to listen to. They stayed 24 hours on the air about D=day which I have NOT listened to the entire thing but it is fun to browse through.