Great video - the Pro G40 Thunderbolt SSD is a must-have for editing 6k+ footage. When you connect the station containing four mags to your mac how do the different PROBLADES appear in Finder?
love to see the in depth explanation for these systems! Any chance of a comparison video in the future of the G40 vs a external enclosed ssd? I'm currently looking to put together a ACASIS Enclosure with Cooling Fan with the Crucial P3 Plus 4TB nvme or buying the G40. Thanks!
I don't really like external enclosures because it is hard to get performance guarantees from manufacturers since they don't make the enclosure & drive and test it.
Do you think it would be a good idea of using Sandisk G Drive Project with one HDD capacity for archival footage and one Pro Blade slot for keeping Lightroom or Davinci Resolve cache files? For proper archival storage I am using NAS system and thinking if I could have another back up storage which definitely doesn't need to be fast or redundant with Raid 1. HDDS in those new sandisk enclosures are quite fast and with extra pro blade slot I could use one cable instead of having some kind of extra external SSD where I would keep cache files so that I could avoid keeping them on my laptops internal memory.
You definitely could! I'm not sure if that is the route I would go for larger storage systems but it's definitely possible. Side note, love your music! Been following for years now :)
Looking at getting the Pro Blade Station 16TB kit. The current pricing at B&H & direct from WD seems to be the same. I noted that it’s also the same whether you get the station and the NVMe units separately vs. the “kit”. If instead, you get the station + 3 4TB NVMes + 1 4TB transporter, you save $30 on the transporter without impacting the cost of the 4th 4TB NVMe…
Weird. Yeah definitely is handy to have a transport or two lying around. I’ve been buying a bunch and am up to 11 mags, 2 transports and the kondor blue handle and really like having the spare transports when I’m not at my desk.
Man that’s a loaded question… more setup and maintenance of leaving it on all the time but there’s some great NAS units out there. I’m getting close to using 20tb of data and need to consider how I’m going to keep storing things moving forward.
have you tried using this in RAID with something like OWC SoftRaid? I would be interested to see if that fan issue happens if you ran all 4 drives in RAID 0 for example
I've had mine a couple of months now and I like it. The only issues I'm having, is that I seem to have gotten the "New Blades" with the Black SN850x NVMes inside, which #1 makes my Read and Write speeds both at 3100 on all test. #2 makes my blade station overheat and shut down when transferring files between the blades. (Only on large files like 180gb +.) I'm not quite sure if that's the cause? But I Suspect it is... The other issue I have with the Station is that the USB/Thunderbolt connections are very loose. the wires easily slip out or move in a way that disconnects the unit even with light movement..
Which one did you replace, the Pro Station or the Mirror? I have both and hate the noise; if possible, could you share how you did it? After removing the screws, Allen screws and the ones under the footpads, still can't open the case.
I do not, I need to get into one long term but just using a ton of pro blade mags and two RAID DAS systems right now. I know any of the newer synology stuff with 4+ bays is top notch. The U Green system looks cool too but their OS doesn't look quite as sophisticated.
I totally don't understand how would you use these devices as network file shares. My impression is that they're NAS-looking devices which can only be used as primitive external drives 😢
Excellent video, it looks amazing, but grossly overpriced. I actually bought it and sent it right it back. my biggest issues are the slow speed of the blade when using the transport (especially on mac), the price of the station, and how noisey the the station gets when in use. I opted to go diy with a 40Gbps USB4 Enclose and Gen 4 NVME which costs the same as a 4tb blade, I get the full bandwidth (avg 3763/3146 Mbps) and dead silence. And two of these came out to $600 vs $1200 for the station, 2x4tb blades and transports.
@@adamtalkstech i went with a Samsung 990 Pro and a Lexar 790. Both are in Hyperdrive USB4 enclosures. Its been about 3 months and i'm a happy camper. i will probably pick up another 4tb during black friday.
Hello, I am a user who is editing videos in Korea. I understand that all four SSDs are marked as independent drives. Is there a way to recognize 4 SSDs as one drive?
Over priced. the fact that @SanDisk is locking from been able to put you own NVME inside the Mag and then on top of that requiring you to get a shit as transporter. that makes it a over priced mag stick and card reader. which need with a over priced dock. completely ridiculous they sell you and everyone else that both this crap rubbish. all they did is slapped on the word Professional PRO BLADE and stole you money. Let find out that is the NAND type or controller for the NVME chips. is it even a SLC I bet you it a no if it is not an MLC then it a complete rip off to even badge a QLC NAND to this NVMEs. I would have expected an SLC NAND for such price tags. you can build a cheap USB 4 which is basically Thunderbolt 4 both do 40GBps link and USB C does have DATA,VIDEO & HIGH POWER PROTOCOL. all you need is a NVME caddy's and dual USB C controller the only down side is you can only have a max of 2x USB link to 2 NVME, even with a TB4 link your NVME will still saturate the link until USB5 and TB5 protocol. So either way the link bus on TB4 and USB 4 will still be a bottle neck for a 4x NVME chip even a PCI-Express 3.0 NVMES will be an over kill 4x 2000MB/s meaning up to 80Gbp/s link so you need 2 TB4.
Hey, I read your whole comment and I don't think you are out to lunch, but I do think you are missing the point of this system. It would be awesome if you could use your own NVMEs, but a 4TB NVME that's decent isn't even much cheaper than the 4TB mags. Even just a USB4 enclosure no drive is $80-120. Also I just switched to shooting with Lumix S5II X with the Pro blade top handle and that has made the station make even more sense to me and be even better for my workflow.
honestly no need for any of this BUT, good video quality my dude, literally 80% of linus quality so soon, keep it up.
Wow. That is too kind. Thank you so much.
Great video - the Pro G40 Thunderbolt SSD is a must-have for editing 6k+ footage. When you connect the station containing four mags to your mac how do the different PROBLADES appear in Finder?
They all show up as independent drives so you need to label them differently if you want to keep better track of them
thanks@@adamtalkstech
I assume you can have three 1tb drives and one 4tbs drive plugged in? Like, mix and match?
Thanks for the great review, now I'm sold. 👍🏻
love to see the in depth explanation for these systems! Any chance of a comparison video in the future of the G40 vs a external enclosed ssd?
I'm currently looking to put together a ACASIS Enclosure with Cooling Fan with the Crucial P3 Plus 4TB nvme or buying the G40.
Thanks!
I don't really like external enclosures because it is hard to get performance guarantees from manufacturers since they don't make the enclosure & drive and test it.
Do you think it would be a good idea of using Sandisk G Drive Project with one HDD capacity for archival footage and one Pro Blade slot for keeping Lightroom or Davinci Resolve cache files?
For proper archival storage I am using NAS system and thinking if I could have another back up storage which definitely doesn't need to be fast or redundant with Raid 1. HDDS in those new sandisk enclosures are quite fast and with extra pro blade slot I could use one cable instead of having some kind of extra external SSD where I would keep cache files so that I could avoid keeping them on my laptops internal memory.
so great. Can you not put your own HDD's in the G RAID Mirror if you wanted to upgrade?
You definitely could! I'm not sure if that is the route I would go for larger storage systems but it's definitely possible.
Side note, love your music! Been following for years now :)
Looking at getting the Pro Blade Station 16TB kit. The current pricing at B&H & direct from WD seems to be the same. I noted that it’s also the same whether you get the station and the NVMe units separately vs. the “kit”. If instead, you get the station + 3 4TB NVMes + 1 4TB transporter, you save $30 on the transporter without impacting the cost of the 4th 4TB NVMe…
Weird. Yeah definitely is handy to have a transport or two lying around. I’ve been buying a bunch and am up to 11 mags, 2 transports and the kondor blue handle and really like having the spare transports when I’m not at my desk.
Thanks for your review. Would you consider a NAS as a better alternative to a Pro Blade setup?
Man that’s a loaded question… more setup and maintenance of leaving it on all the time but there’s some great NAS units out there. I’m getting close to using 20tb of data and need to consider how I’m going to keep storing things moving forward.
have you tried using this in RAID with something like OWC SoftRaid? I would be interested to see if that fan issue happens if you ran all 4 drives in RAID 0 for example
I tried it in the apple raid configuration for a while but didn't have any specific performance increases.
I've had mine a couple of months now and I like it.
The only issues I'm having, is that I seem to have gotten the "New Blades" with the Black SN850x NVMes inside, which #1 makes my Read and Write speeds both at 3100 on all test. #2 makes my blade station overheat and shut down when transferring files between the blades. (Only on large files like 180gb +.) I'm not quite sure if that's the cause? But I Suspect it is...
The other issue I have with the Station is that the USB/Thunderbolt connections are very loose. the wires easily slip out or move in a way that disconnects the unit even with light movement..
Could you do a review of the Lexar Professional Workflow dock?
I’d love to try it out. I have a few lexar cards that work great.
Any chance they will bring out a Thunderbolt 5 update anytime soon?
It would probably be a couple years
Use Noctua 40mm fan to replace the built in one! Will transform the acoustics :)
Have you done this mod? That sounds really tempting but I hate to void warranty or anything :)
Which one did you replace, the Pro Station or the Mirror? I have both and hate the noise; if possible, could you share how you did it? After removing the screws, Allen screws and the ones under the footpads, still can't open the case.
When using the raid mirror drive how fast is the blade drive it have? Good video by the way!
About 950mbps. Same as the transport speed on Mac!
When they upgrade this to Thunderbolt 4 I will purchase
What advantage are you looking for? The transport updated?
@ Speed
Thunderbolt 4 is the same speed as thunderbolt 3.
Hey Adam, do you happen to have a NAS system that you can recommend?
I do not, I need to get into one long term but just using a ton of pro blade mags and two RAID DAS systems right now. I know any of the newer synology stuff with 4+ bays is top notch. The U Green system looks cool too but their OS doesn't look quite as sophisticated.
Is the pro blade a nas or only ssd enclosure?
it is an enclosure for the pro blade NVME drives. technically it's a DAS or "direct attached storage"
I totally don't understand how would you use these devices as network file shares. My impression is that they're NAS-looking devices which can only be used as primitive external drives 😢
Yes they are direct attached only. Best for top speeds and simplicity. I need to get into the NAS world at some point.
@@adamtalkstechif you use cloud you are practically using nas formatting
Excellent video, it looks amazing, but grossly overpriced. I actually bought it and sent it right it back. my biggest issues are the slow speed of the blade when using the transport (especially on mac), the price of the station, and how noisey the the station gets when in use.
I opted to go diy with a 40Gbps USB4 Enclose and Gen 4 NVME which costs the same as a 4tb blade, I get the full bandwidth (avg 3763/3146 Mbps) and dead silence. And two of these came out to $600 vs $1200 for the station, 2x4tb blades and transports.
What NVME did you buy? Curious to hear your long term thoughts.
@@adamtalkstech i went with a Samsung 990 Pro and a Lexar 790. Both are in Hyperdrive USB4 enclosures. Its been about 3 months and i'm a happy camper. i will probably pick up another 4tb during black friday.
Great job ,thanks
Thanks for watching!
Hello, I am a user who is editing videos in Korea.
I understand that all four SSDs are marked as independent drives.
Is there a way to recognize 4 SSDs as one drive?
You can set it up in RAID on Mac but I'm not sure if I would run it that way.
Over priced. the fact that @SanDisk is locking from been able to put you own NVME inside the Mag and then on top of that requiring you to get a shit as transporter. that makes it a over priced mag stick and card reader. which need with a over priced dock.
completely ridiculous they sell you and everyone else that both this crap rubbish. all they did is slapped on the word Professional PRO BLADE and stole you money.
Let find out that is the NAND type or controller for the NVME chips. is it even a SLC I bet you it a no if it is not an MLC then it a complete rip off to even badge a QLC NAND to this NVMEs. I would have expected an SLC NAND for such price tags.
you can build a cheap USB 4 which is basically Thunderbolt 4 both do 40GBps link and USB C does have DATA,VIDEO & HIGH POWER PROTOCOL. all you need is a NVME caddy's and dual USB C controller the only down side is you can only have a max of 2x USB link to 2 NVME, even with a TB4 link your NVME will still saturate the link until USB5 and TB5 protocol. So either way the link bus on TB4 and USB 4 will still be a bottle neck for a 4x NVME chip even a PCI-Express 3.0 NVMES will be an over kill 4x 2000MB/s meaning up to 80Gbp/s link so you need 2 TB4.
Hey, I read your whole comment and I don't think you are out to lunch, but I do think you are missing the point of this system.
It would be awesome if you could use your own NVMEs, but a 4TB NVME that's decent isn't even much cheaper than the 4TB mags.
Even just a USB4 enclosure no drive is $80-120.
Also I just switched to shooting with Lumix S5II X with the Pro blade top handle and that has made the station make even more sense to me and be even better for my workflow.